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Ask teachers, right? Um, could be something as quick as asking, depending on how significant of a report somebody wanted. I'm getting a kind of a nod. might be as quickly as saying each classroom teacher give us your assessment on this and we put that together. I think that's something that we could do to work obviously. But one more thing, right? >> I have a clarifying question that would be directed towards member Goodwin. Is this Are we talking screen times because we do use screens now to teach lessons on? Is it that screen we're talking about or are we more talking about computer screens, not timed screens. >> Smartboards are instructional tools. They're it's it's more of a projection. It's actually >> out the touch screen. >> We're talking about on a Chromebook. Um, correct. member child and the member Denine. >> Could the IT department be able to pull up some information on Chrome time screen hours turned on and what time is in program?
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Um, and if that synopsis gives us reason for concern, then we should do our due diligence and read it in its entirety and talk about it. >> When might the teachers be able to see that afforded to them? I think as as soon as we get through whether it's June or July and we're on the same page with with your existing list and the structure of that um it's it'll be really easy for us to put to I would I think we'll do it as a digital form. We can put together a real easy digital Google form that has and collects that same information and then we'll be able to bring it to you anytime a teacher recommends it. So that should be easy to do. >> So I think where I'm coming from I have three children. If two of my children that don't like to read came to me and said, "I'm going to read this book." I'd be excited.
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Thank you. >> Great. Thank you. >> Uh, all right. So, we have another motion, item B. Um, hopefully we can get the through these a little more expeditiously. Um motion from member Goodwin to direct the superintendent to determine the amount of screen time that students in each grade are experiencing in the Greenfield public schools in the 2526 school year. The amount should be categorized as either instructional or assessment and reported in minutes per day. Is there a second? >> A second. >> All right. We have a motion from member Goodwin. We have a second from member web. Uh discussion. >> Yes, mayor. So I I have a question again. Is this something that is easily attainable um in the time that we have left? Is this a time consuming something to find out how long everybody spends in front of a screen? I don't know.
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Because I know like cell phones, they'll show you you spent too much time on your phone, x amount of time on this app. I I wonder what kind of things are already in place. um for this the same same discussion last time. This isn't our purview. This isn't our job. If it is identified by the superintendent as something that she wants to collect in the future as she prepares her strategic plan and goals, then great. This is not for us. We are not in the classroom. This is not governance. Um, if we want to ask for a policy to be created or compel the administration to bring us a report, we do that through policy. We do not give the superintendent busy work at the end of the I'm just I cannot tell you how frustrating this is making me. Like really truly, this is not what we do.
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Um whether or not I agree with it, um depending on their grade level, especially the 112, um I would say go ahead and read it and then we're going to talk about it. See how we got I can I think we're pretty firm and strong in our household beliefs. So, I I I feel like as long as it doesn't break any um ARS, um then I I don't feel comfortable telling I don't feel comfortable saying no, we can't have this book. Um but I do think that you're gonna there's a there's a couple of them that are pretty iffy on those on on on that. So I think that I think our June meeting will be >> I think with the opt out letter that he's talking about that's going to go a long way and >> but I also think as a board if we set really good policy >> to give them direction then I think >> if they can work within our you know but I think as a board I agree with you maybe at our June >> we need to sit down and really make sure we've got policy to give you direction >> and we'll be in a good position that even if Let's go back to your example.
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I've never been a teacher. >> Um yeah, if we're if we were directed with this, we would have to figure out a way to collect data. Ask teachers, right? Um, could be something as quick as asking. Depending on how significant of a report somebody wanted. I'm getting a kind of a nod. It might be as quickly as saying, uh, each classroom teacher give us your assessment on this and we put that together. I think that's something that we could do. It's work obviously. But one more thing, right? Member Webb, >> I have a clarifying question that would be directed towards member Goodwin. Is this Are we talking screen times because we do use screens now to teach lessons on? Is it that screen we're talking about or are we more talking about computer screens, not timed learning screens? >> Smartboards are instructional tools. They're it's it's more of a projection.
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It's not our job. So policy, budget, hiring the superintendent. So if this is a policy thought, then send it to the policy subcommittee and we can figure out if we can write a policy to compel the administration to do this. But this is just not what we do. And it's frustrating because it's making the meetings extra long and it's not in our purview. I'm sorry. I don't mean to be mean, but it is not our job. 11. >> I think it's important to collect data so therefore we know if the superintendent would want us to make a policy based upon the data that's been collected. >> Member Goodwin and then myself. >> So some states are shutting down screens and some school committees are voting to shut down screens. So I don't know if our children are on the screens too much. Um, and so one of the things I know is there's great concern um from parents and even teachers about the amount of screen time kids are on in schools and school committees are taking those votes.
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Even if there's a novel in there that you say, >> I get the discomfort. If nothing else, we can flag that internally as a proceed with caution, you know, and let's have a conversation as a teaching team. >> I think there >> if we're if we're choosing that novel >> why, you know, and if there's a a strong reason, right? Um, I mean this is an easy opt out, but let's say and it's an AP book, like okay, like we go, but it's an AP book and we know the kids are going to be tested on that material and so we're the risk is worth the reward, if you will. Um, or if it's just an onle book and we say there's two other great options that we don't feel as dicey about, you know, then then why are we going with >> Okay. >> the one that's riskier, you know?
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It's actually replace >> out the touch screens. >> We're talking about on a Chromebook. Um, >> correct. >> Got member childs and member Denine. >> Could the IT department be able to pull up some information on Chrome time screen hours turned on and what time is in programs? cuz I know like cell phones they'll show you you spent too much time on your phone, x amount of time on this app. I I wonder what kind of things are already in place. >> Um the same same discussion last time. This isn't our purview. This isn't our job. If it is identified by the superintendent as something that she wants to collect in the future as she prepares her strategic plan and goals, then great. This is not for us. We are not in the classroom. This is not governance. Um if we want to ask for a policy to be created or compel the administration to bring us a report, we do that through policy.
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It's a conversation um you know being had at every level. So um maybe I mean if you're thinking that's a to go to the policy committee. I don't know. Um but it needed to be brought up because it's something that right now health providers are are really recognizing the screens as um harming our children. So I think one of the things that needs to be done is I mean unless you ask you don't know. Perhaps what I'm hearing is that this motion might be best served being part of a broader discussion about how we feel about screen time in schools generally. Uh because we do have the purview to make policy around that sort of thing and it sort of is our job to have an opinion about that and to have what we think is you know the phrase too much is very subjective.
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I mean, >> all right. I look forward to talking about it in June. >> Yeah. >> Perfect. >> Sounds great. >> Great. All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. Okay. Um 11.3 discussion information on the 2526 student enrollment numbers. >> You received a report from me uh I believe it was last week.
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We do not give the superintendent busy work at the end of the I'm just I cannot tell you how frustrating this is making me like really truly this is not what we do. It's not our job. So policy budget hiring the superintendent. So if this is a policy thought then send it to the policy subcommittee and we can figure out if we can write a policy to compel the administration to do this. But this is just not what we do. And it's frustrating because it's making the meetings extra long and it's not in our purview. I'm sorry. I don't mean to be mean, but this is not our job. >> And Brad, >> I think it's important to collect data so therefore we know if the superintendent would want us to make a policy based upon the data that's been collected. member Goodwin and then myself.
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It's our job to decide what we too much with informed, you know, like like with the information that we need um with rigorous study, with information, but maybe collecting this information app propo of no discussion is perhaps not the best way to move forward right now. Um would you entertain withdrawing the motion? >> Yes, I'm fine with that. I think the discussion needs to happen. Um, and I'm not sure anybody knows what happens behind a closed classroom door. So, um, I think those discussions need to happen. It probably should become a policy. Okay. Um would the second also be willing to withdraw the motion the maker of the mot with or is it or if it's withdrawn by the people who made it then I think the motion is withdrawn and we are moving on um but we can expect that we will return to this topic in the future.
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Um numbers have or pattern I should say hasn't changed really that much and so if there's any questions I'll be more than happy to answer but otherwise it was just noted for for your information. >> Okay. I have a question. Um, is there a way I know at one point we had spoke and were able to pull up um what kids within our district are at this school outside of our district and what kids from our district are at this school. >> Um because sometimes when this conversation comes up, I know myself as a board member, I can't speak for everyone. Um I'm told, well, lots of people are moving out, lots of people are moving in and lots of people still live here. And so there are lots of kids within our community that are not going to our schools. And so I'm just curious, is there a way for us to get that report so that we can see >> Yes.
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>> So, some states are shutting down screens and some school committees are voting to shut down screens. So, I don't know if our children are on the screens too much. Um, and so one of the things I know is there's great concern um from parents and even teachers about the amount of screen time kids are on in schools and school committees are taking those votes. It's a conversation um you know being had at every level. So, um maybe I mean if you're thinking that's a polic to go to the policy committee, I don't know. Um but it needed to be brought up because it's something that right now health providers are are really recognizing the screens as um harming our children. So, I think one of the things that needs to be done is I mean, unless you ask, you don't know. Perhaps what I'm hearing is that this motion might be best served being part of a broader discussion about how we feel about screen time in schools generally.
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All right. Item C, first read of policy JNDB, empowered digital use policy. >> I'm trying to read these out loud. >> This is really long. >> It's really long. >> It's 11 pages. >> Yeah. >> I guess could could chair, may I entertain a thought? Could we take now? Could we Could we take this policy and like go digest it and maybe like everybody gets a chance to take their notes and whatever and we come back like ready to vote on it next month. Is that too long? It's a big one. It's not like the easy I'm I'm sorry. Stephen is waving and I'm taking time. >> Yeah. Just clear the policy is only page one, >> right? But the tabs >> is Right. But the policy is only that page and the only changes are what's highlighted in yellow. But to member Denise's point the procedures in which we're proposing to implement said policy.
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>> how many kids are at this charter school. I don't even like saying their name because they're competition and which kids are at this school and which kids are at that school. Yes. >> Because they're not just all moving out, >> right? Yes. And no. if if they were part of our system >> then and if when they move they're supposed to go ahead that the the receiving school should be asking the sending school for information for the trans for the transfer the the the folder and so in that case we would know that this particular school asked information. If you have someone that's moved into a a home and doesn't ever start with us and just goes to another uh district then it becomes a little bit harder. There are some databases that are being produced um that will look at uh uh which kids are attending which schools based on on zip codes.
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Uh because we do have the purview to make policy around that sort of thing. And it sort of is our job to have an opinion about that and to have what we think is, you know, the phrase too much is very subjective. It's our job to decide what we believe is too much with informed, you know, like like with the information that we need um with rigorous study with information, but maybe collecting this information app propo of no discussion is perhaps not the best way to move forward right now. Um, would you entertain withdrawing the motion? >> Yes, I'm fine with that. I think the discussion needs to happen. Um, and I'm not sure anybody knows what happens behind a closed classroom door. So, um, I think those discussions need to happen. It probably should become a policy. Okay. Um, would the seconder also be willing to withdraw the motion if the the motion the maker of the motion agreed?
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We provided to the subcommittee because there were questions. So we wanted to provide as much clarification as we could but the policy is only that first page. >> Really appreciate that. Um I am remembering having attended several city council meetings where they have done these first reads and I'm remembering that it basically is they just first read and move on. >> Oh okay. >> So we're going to first read. >> It's in there. We can read it. Move on. We will come back again. >> Okay. So we're going to come back for a second read with this. Okay. >> Yes. Absolutely. >> Uh all right. Moving on now to item D. First read of pol read of policy BEDH guidelines for public comment. Uh similar to the above item, it's first read. It's in there. You have a chance to look at it. We'll come back again next uh next time for a second read.
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Uh how effective they are. I'm going to give you an example a second. How effective they are probably depends on the database. There's a brand new one I just heard about today, but I don't know if it's any good or not. Uh I'll give you the example with ESAs. Uh ESA uses zip code data to figure out who's picking up u an ESA. Uh the problematic issue with that is as an example in our district, I'll round numbers, but we had 400 kids uh that were at one point two years ago, three years ago, uh receiving ESAs that that should have been attending our schools. Uh and so the way it's reported is 400 kids left the system, but the reality is those 400 kids were never in the system. Those 400 kids have been attending a private school or homeschooled and and selecting an ESA, and they were never our students to begin with.
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