HI. I'M LYNN GRAY. CHAIR OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. I WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. WE SERVE MORE THAN 200,000 STUDENTS. THAT INCLUDES CHILDREN IN PRESCHOOL THROUGH OUR ADULTS IN OUR WORKFORCE PROGRAM. HI. I'M DR. STACY HAHN, THE BOARD VICE-CHAIR. OUR DISTRICT IS THE 7th LARGEST IN AMERICA, AND OUR TEAM IS MADE UP OF MORE THAN 24,000 PEOPLE WORKING AT NEARLY 250 SITES ACROSS THE COUNTY. WE ARE DIVERSE AND DEDICATED. OUR BOARD MEETINGS ARE HELD IN OUR BOARD AUDITORIUM ON SELECT TUESDAYS AT 4 P.M. THE BEST WAY TO SERVE OUR STUDENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY IS TO INVOLVE YOU, THE PUBLIC, IN WHAT WE DO. YOU ARE WELCOME TO E-MAIL OR MEET WITH ANY OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND FOLLOW OUR DISTRICT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. BOARD MEETINGS ARE COVERED LIVE BY HILLSBOROUGH SCHOOLS TV, ON SPECTRUM CABLE CHANNEL 635, AND FRONTIER CABLE CHANNEL 32.
MEETINGS ARE STREAMED ON OUR WEBSITE AT HillsboroughSchools.org. CLOSED CAPTIONING IS PROVIDED ON ALL BROADCASTS AND PAST MEETINGS ARE AVAILABLE IN OUR ONLINE ARCHIVES. WE ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY. WE'LL INCLUDE TIME FOR AUDIENCE COMMENTS BEFORE WE ADDRESS OUR BUSINESS ITEMS. OUR AGENDA AND ANY SUPPORTING MATERIALS CAN BE VIEWED ONLINE IN ADVANCE. THEY ARE POSTED SEVEN DAYS BEFORE EACH MEETING ON OUR WEBSITE AT HillsboroughSchools.org. OUR VISION IS PREPARING STUDENTS FOR LIFE. AND THAT MEANS ALL STUDENTS, EVERY DAY. TODOS LOS ESTUDIANTES, TODOS LOS DIAS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN EDUCATION. WITH YOUR HELP, WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS THAT SHAPE OUR COMMUNITY'S FUTURE. Lynn Gray: THE BOARD MEETING OF NOVEMBER 16th, 2021, IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.
A MOMENT OF SILENCE, MEMBER HAHN. Stacy Hahn: PLEASE JOIN ME IN A PRAYER THIS AFTERNOON. LOVING AND GRACIOUS GOD, YOU ARE INDEED THE GIVER OF ALL GOOD GIFTS, AND WE THANK YOU TODAY FOR YOUR BLESSINGS. WE THANK YOU FOR THE SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES OF OUR SCHOOLS AND EVENTS, OUR STUDENTS, FAMILIES, FOR TEACHERS, PRINCIPALS AND STAFF AND SUPPORT MEMBERS. WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THEM ABUNDANTLY AND WE CONTINUE TO SEEK YOUR WISDOM, GUIDANCE, COURAGE, AND STRENGTH. BE WITH US IN OUR DELIBERATIONS AND HELP US TO BE WISE IN THE DECISIONS WE MAKE FOR THE GOOD OF ALL THOSE WHO HAVE PLACED THEIR TRUST AND CONFIDENCE IN OUR LEADERSHIP. GIVE US INSIGHT TO LEAGUE WITH INTEGRITY, THAT OUR DECISIONS MAY REFLECT WHAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD. KEEP US FROM SHORTSIGHTEDNESS AND PETTINESS. HELP US TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE FOR THE GOOD OF ALL AND GUARD US FROM BLIND SELF-INTEREST.
DEAR LORD, GRANT US THE HUMILITY TO ALWAYS SEEK YOUR WILL IN ALL THAT WE DO AND SAY. OUR GLORY TO BE YOU, AMEN. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] Lynn Gray: WE HAVE ONE WITHDRAWN ITEM TODAY, 6.17, AMENDMENT THREE WITH EDUPOINT, EDUCATIONAL SYSTEMS. AND THAT IS WITHDRAWN. I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT TODAY'S AGENDA.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MEMBER COMBS AND A SECOND BY MEMBER VAUGHN. WILL THERE BE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE WHEN YOUR LIGHTS APPEAR. THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBERS. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL BOARD MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EITHER IN THE BOARDROOM OR BY REMOTE, AND WE ARE ALL HERE IN THE BOARDROOM. WE HAVE FIVE SETS OF MINUTES TO BE APPROVED TODAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 2021, THE SCHOOL BOARD WORKSHOP, SEPTEMBER 21st, 2021, SCHOOL BOARD WORKSHOP, OCTOBER 5th, 2021 SCHOOL BOARD MEETING, OCTOBER 19th, 2021 SCHOOL BOARD MEETING; NOVEMBER 2nd, 2021, SPECIAL-CALLED SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MEMBER PEREZ AND A SECOND BY MEMBER WASHINGTON. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE WHEN YOUR LIGHTS APPEAR. THANK YOU, BOARD. IT'S UNANIMOUS. BOARD MEMBERS, I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER THE FORMAT OF TODAY'S MEETING. FOR PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES, WE ARE LIMITING ATTENDANCE. WE ARE PRACTICING SOCIAL DISTANCING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WE ASK THAT GUESTS IN THE BOARDROOM KEEP ONE CHAIR OPEN BETWEEN FAMILIES. AS A REMINDER, WE ARE A NONPARTISAN BOARD WHO BELIEVE ALL CHILDREN CAN BE EMPOWERED TO LEARN TO SUCCEED AND OUR DECISIONS WILL BE MADE WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING.
IS TO PAVE THE WAY FOR EFFICIENT AND OBJECTIVE AGENDA STATEMENTS AND/OR QUESTIONS, BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE TWO -- THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK WITH 30 SECONDS FOR FINAL THOUGHTS. AFTERWARD, THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN RESPOND. IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS, YOU'RE ASKED TO GET BACK IN THE QUEUE.
MEMBER HAHN, WILL YOU NOW READ THE BOARD GUIDELINES? Stacy Hahn: THANK YOU, CHAIR GRAY. AS WE BEGIN THIS AFTERNOON'S MEETING, LET ME QUICKLY REVIEW THE FORMAT OF OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS. PLEASE SILENCE ALL ELECTRONIC DEVICES. THERE ARE SPEAKERS IN THE ROOM BEHIND ME THAT ALLOW BOARD MEMBERS TO HEAR THE MEETING UPON STEPPING AWAY FROM THE DAIS, AND THIS MEETING CAN BE VIEWED CLOSED CAPTIONING ON THE LIVE WEBCAST, ON CABLE TV, AND ON VIDEO MONITORS HERE IN THE AUDITORIUM. IT CAN ALSO BE VIEWED WITH CLOSED CAPTIONING ON THE ONLINE VIDEO ARCHIVES.
Lynn Gray: THANK YOU, MEMBER HAHN. WE HAVE ONE ITEM SCHEDULED FOR TIME CERTAIN. 6 P.M. WILL BE FOR EMPLOYEE INPUT. PUBLIC COMMENT, THE BOARD WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS AND VALUES YOUR INPUT TO THE BOARD. IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE RESPONSE TO YOUR COMMENTS, OUR STAFF WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AND WILL KEEP OUR BOARD INFORMED ABOUT THE RESPONSES. OUR SCHOOL BOARD RESPECTS THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING YOUR TIME TO BE HERE. HOWEVER, IT IS REQUESTED WHEN YOU ADDRESS THE BOARD COMMENTS, BOARD COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED PERSONALLY AGAINST A BOARD MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER BUT RATHER DIRECTED AT THE ISSUES. ANY BEHAVIOR INTENDED TO INTERRUPT THE ORDERLY CONDUCT OF THIS MEETING WILL NOT BE ALLOWED. OUR CIVILITY POLICY IS IN PLACE. WHEN ADDRESSING THE BOARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPEAK CLEARLY INTO THE MICROPHONE. AS A REMINDER OF OUR WAY OF WORK, WE HAVE ALLOTTED 45 MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
AT TIMES WHEN THERE IS AN ISSUE OF GREAT INTEREST, WE SOMETIMES DO EXTEND IT FOR AN HOUR. THIS AFTERNOON, EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES. WHEN THERE ARE 30 SECONDS LEFT, YOU WILL SEE A YELLOW LIGHT ON THE LECTERN. A RED LIGHT AND A CHIME WILL INDICATE WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP. AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL CALL THE SPEAKERS. I'LL MAKE SURE THAT I CALL FIVE AT A TIME. FIRST KELLY KARLING, C MOORING, LUANN TALBERT, SUSAN LUTHO AND VERONICA McDONALD. BE MINDFUL TO STATE YOUR NAME. GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD MEMBERS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS AND GUESTS. MY NAME IS KELLY CARLING. I'M A GRADUATE OF HARVARD AND MOTHER OF FOUR CHILDREN ATTENDING HILLSBOROUGH POOLS. -- HILLSBOROUGH PUBLIC SCHOOLS. I APPRECIATE YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME INSIDE. IT REALLY HELPS ME AS A PARENT FEEL LIKE I'M A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION, AND IT MEANS A LOT TO ME.
I JUST WANTED TO SUGGEST AS MEMBER SNIVELY DID THAT WE POSTPONE THE REDISTRICTING TO 2023. I KNOW WE HAVE THE LEGAL CAPABILITY TO DO THAT. IT'S WITHIN THE LAW. AND THE REASON WHY ARE THREE. THE FIRST IS THAT AT THE BOARD WORKSHOP WE HAD THIS MORNING, WHICH I WAS IN ATTENDANCE OF, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEMS DATA SUPPORT. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE, AND THEY CANCELED LAST MINUTE BECAUSE THEY, TOO, ARE SWAMPED. IT'S AN EXTREMELY BUSY TIME OF YEAR FOR OUR DATA ANALYSTS. AND I WAS HOPING TO COME AND GET ANSWERS. SO YESTERDAY, I WAS PLAYING PHONE TAG WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE, AND ULTIMATELY I WAS TOLD TO COME TO THE WORKSHOP BECAUSE THERE I COULD ASK THESE DATA JUNKIES HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THE MAPS A THROUGH D, AND THEY WEREN'T THERE. I THINK IT'S JUST ILLUSTRATIVE OF THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, HOW IT'S BEING RUSHED.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS JUST PUSHED THROUGH QUICKLY AND DONE SO WE CAN CHECK OFF A BOX. I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD APPRECIATE IF WE SLOWED IT DOWN AND DID IT IN A LESS STRESSFUL TIME. MY CHILDREN AREN'T EVEN HAVING BIRTHDAY PARTIES THIS YEAR IN DECEMBER. I TOLD THEM WE'RE HAVING SPAGHETTI AT HOME AND YOU'RE GETTING A GIFT CARD BECAUSE IT'S TOO CRAZY. PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING. IT'S AN INCREDIBLY BUSY TIME OF YEAR. IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T CARE. IT'S JUST BECAUSE WE'RE BUSY. YOU GUYS ARE ALL BUSY. I WAS TOLD THAT A LOT OF YOU COULDN'T MEET UNTIL YOUR -- YOU'RE BOOKING WEEKS IN ADVANCE. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NO LOGISTIC SUPPORT. NUMBER TWO, NO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. NADIA COMBS MENTIONED SHE HAD THREE MEMBERS COME TO HER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING. THERE WERE MORE STAFF MEMBERS THAN COMMUNITY MEMBERS. IT'S NOT BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T CARE. IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ADEQUATE TIME TO ADVERTISE AND GET PEOPLE INTERESTED AND FIRED UP.
THESE THINGS TAKE TIME. I KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, IF YOU WANT SOMEBODY TO COME TO A PARTY OR SOMETHING, YOU NEED TO TELL THEM MULTIPLE TIMES, REMIND THEM AND TEXT THEM. THEY DON'T JUST SNAP TOGETHER AND SHOW UP. AMONG THE MAPS IN CONSIDERATION, SO TWO MEMBERS SUBMITTED MAPS.
MEMBER HAHN AND MEMBER PEREZ. 10% OR LESS VARIANCE IS REQUIRED BY LAW. PEREZ HAS 8.5%. IT'S ALMOST OUT OF THE LEGAL REALM. HAHN'S IS .5% WHICH IS REALLY TIGHT. IN A GOOD WAY. THEY ARE BALANCED. I JUST HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AND I DON'T THINK THEY WILL BE ANSWERED IN AN ADEQUATE FASHION. THANK YOU. Lynn Gray: THANK YOU. NEXT, MS. MAURY. AND GOOD AFTERNOON. PRIVACY IS A HUMAN RIGHT AND ESSENTIAL TO FREEDOM. TODAY YOU PROPOSE A $2.5 MILLION CONTRACT FOR CAMERA AND ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEM. THESE PRODUCTS ARE CAPABLE OF CONTACT TRACING, IDENTIFYING THE INFECTED TRIAL THROUGH ZONE, CONTACTS AND OTHER UNSPECIFIED PERSONAL DATA. THE COMPANY OFFERS THE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SERVICES FACIAL AND EMOTIONAL RECOGNITION. WHOSE DATA ARE THEY USING TO TRAIN THEIR A.I.? IS THIS GOING TO BE A REPEAT OF THE POLK COUNTY SCHOOLS 2013 IRIS SCANNING FIASCO? THAT MESS USHERED IN A NEW LAW PROHIBITING SCHOOL DISTRICTS FROM BIOMETRIC COLLECTION.
YOU APPROVED GPS BUSING THAT INCLUDED 100,000 STUDENT RFID TRACKERS. OUR CHILDREN ARE NOT YOUR PROPERTY TO TRACK. THAT COMPANY ADVERTISES FUTURE USES OF THEIR RFID AND INCLUDE BEHAVIORAL INTERVENTION PROGRAMS. THIS DISTRICT REFUSED OUR OPT OUT OF LUNCHROOM MEAL TRACKING EVEN WHEN WE PAID CASH. WHAT IS THE COMPELLING GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST YOU HAVE IN THAT DATA AND HOW IS IT NARROWLY TAILORED? OUR EXPERIENCE, ONCE THIS DISTRICT ADOPTS TRACKING TECHNOLOGIES LIKE iREADY, EDSBY, CANVAS, IT DOES NOT ALLOW OPT OUTS. THIS SYSTEM PROTECTS MEDICAL, DIETARY, PSYCHOLOGICAL, AND OTHER PERSONAL DATA STORED IN THE CLOUD. THESE ARE DOSSIERS ON CHILDREN. CHINA WEAPONIZES DATA AND SYSTEMS LIKE THAT. ED TECH COMPANIES OFTEN SHARE DATA WITH MORE VENDORS AND PARTNERS. ONE PRIVACY POLICY REVEALS THEY STORE DATA OVERSEAS. DO U.S. LAWS APPLY OVERSEAS? NO ONE TO MY KNOWLEDGE FROM THIS DISTRICT HAS THE PERMISSION OR SKILL TO CRITICALLY INSPECT PROPRIETARY VENDOR SOFTWARE FOR COMPLIANCE WITH LAW.
STUDENT DATA COLLECTED CAN BE TRANSFERRED IN A SALE OR A MERGER. MOTO SOLD THEIR ED TECH PLATFORM TO THE CHINESE COMPANY NET DRAGON. IT SEEMS THERE ARE NO LAWS GOVERNING THIS. IT HAS BEEN REFERRED TO AS A NATIONAL SECURITY PROBLEM. FLORIDA POLITICIANS ARE A DECADE LATE AND COUNTING ON MEANINGFUL PRIVACY LEGISLATION. Lynn Gray: THANK YOU. NEXT WE'LL HAVE LUANN TALBERT FOLLOWED BY SUSAN LITHOLD. AND GOOD AFTERNOON. HI. HELLO. I AM LUANN TOLBERT, I AM HERE REPRESENTING HILLSBOROUGH PUBLIC SCHOOL ADVOCATES. WE ALL KNOW THAT OUR DISTRICT IS FACING SEVERE CHALLENGES AND WE ARE HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU AND SUPPORT YOU. WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT YOU WILL SELECT A SCHOOL BOARD CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR THAT WILL PROVIDE EXCELLENT LEADERSHIP. WE SHOW UP HERE, MEETING AFTER MEETING TO ADVOCATE FOR FULLY FUNDED PUBLIC SCHOOLS, FOR FAIR AND APPROPRIATE EDUCATION, FOR EQUITABLE REPRESENTATION FOR OUR SCHOOL VOTING DISTRICTS, FOR LESS HIGH-STAKES TESTING, LESS TOP-DOWN LEADERSHIP, AND MORE CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUES WITH STAKEHOLDERS.
MORE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS THAT PROVIDE WRAPAROUND SERVICES TO SUPPORT FAMILIES. EDUCATION HAS BECOME A POLITICAL TUG-OF-WAR WITH POWER AS THE PRIZE. AS A NONPARTISAN GROUP, WE ADVOCATE FOR STUDENTS, NOT CANDIDATES. WE SUPPORT LEADERS WHO PRIORITIZE STUDENTS. THANK YOU. Lynn Gray: THANK YOU. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM SUSAN LUTHOLD. I'M SURE YOU'LL CORRECT ME. AND THEN VERONICA McDONALD. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M SUSAN LUTHOLD. GREAT TO SEE YOUR SMILING FACES. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THE PUBLIC BACK INTO THIS PUBLIC MEETING. I WAS BORN IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. I'M A GRADUATE OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL. I'M A REGISTERED VOTER IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. NOVEMBER 8 THROUGH 12th WAS NATIONAL SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGY WEEK WHERE WE CELEBRATE THE IMPORTANT WORK OF SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGISTS AND OTHER EDUCATORS WHO AID STUDENTS, WHO HELP ALL STUDENTS THRIVE. THEY HAVE SOME GREAT GOALS, AND WE SHOULD JOIN THEM IN STRIVING TO DO THE FOLLOWING: IMPROVE ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT, PROMOTE POSITIVE BEHAVIOR AND MENTAL HEALTH, SUPPORT DIVERSE LEARNERS, CREATE SAFE, POSITIVE SCHOOL CLIMATES, STRENGTHEN FAMILY SCHOOL PARTNERSHIPS, IMPROVE SCHOOLWIDE ASSESSMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY, AND MONITOR PROGRESS IN ACADEMICS AND BEHAVIOR.
BUT HOW IS IT REALLY GOING? BUSES ARE LATE DUE TO STAFFING SHORTAGES, KIDS ARE NOT GETTING BREAKFAST DUE TO LATE BUSES AND STAFFING SHORTAGES, KIDS ARE BEING MADE TO FEEL LIKE THEY AND THEIR FRIENDS ARE DIRTY. KIDS ARE BEING ERRONEOUSLY MADE TO BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF GROWN-UPS, AN ALARMING NUMBER OF KIDS ARE EXTRAORDINARILY BEHIND IN ACADEMICS AND FALLING FURTHER EACH DAY. STAFFING SHORTAGES AND NONSENSE POLICIES ALSO ARE CAUSING LONG LUNCH LINES AND KIDS ARE MISSING LUNCH. THERE'S INCREASED FIGHTING AND BULLYING IN SCHOOLS. SCHOOLS USED TO BE A SAFE SPACE FOR KIDS WHO MAY NOT HAVE THE BEST HOME LIFE. THEY COULD CATCH A BREAK, HAVE SOME POSITIVE INFLUENCE, SEE FRIENDS WITH SMILING FACES, BE FED TWO OR MORE MEALS A DAY AND SPEND TIME IN THE PRESENCE OF CARING AND COMPASSIONATE ADULTS WHILE ALSO LEARNING. PLEASE STOP THE FOCUS OF VIOLATING PARENTAL RIGHTS HERE.
YOU ARE NOT THE MASK POLICE, YOU ARE NOT THE VACCINE NAZIS. VACCINE MANDATES SHOULD BE COMPLETELY OFF THE TABLE. THESE ARE DECISIONS THAT BELONG TO FAMILIES AND THEIR DOCTORS. MANDATES ARE DISCRIMINATORY AND STAND TO ALIENATE MINORITY, LOW INCOME AND AT-RISK KIDS. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DEPRIVE ANY KIDS OF A PUBLIC EDUCATION BASED ON YOUR FEARS. PLEASE GET BACK TO DOING THE JOBS THAT YOU ARE ELECTED TO DO. I IMPLORE YOU TO GET BACK IN YOUR LANE, HIRE PROPER STAFF, LET TEACHERS GO BACK TO TEACHING OUR CHILDREN. LET THE KIDS GO BACK TO LEARNING. TO THE BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENTS, PLEASE SHOW KINDNESS AND COMPASSION TO THESE KIDS, PARENTS, AND TEACHERS AND STOP THE OVERREACH. Lynn Gray: THANK YOU. THANK YOU. Lynn Gray: BEFORE WE PURSUE MORE SPEAKERS, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE SUPERINTENDENT TO LOWER THE NOISE OUTSIDE, IF THAT CAN BE DONE. I'M HEARING THAT WE CAN'T.
OKAY. MY APOLOGIES, SPEAKERS, IF THIS WILL DISTURB YOU. THE DRUMMERS. LET'S GO AHEAD, MS. McDONALD, GOOD AFTERNOON, AND THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM PAT HALL, MARK SAY JACK AND HERE WE GO. I'LL TRY TO TALK IN CADENCE WITH THE BEAT OUTSIDE. LET'S TALK FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. SO THE ONLY REASON THAT SOME MEMBERS ARE SUGG SUGGESTING THAT HOLD OFF ON REDISTRICTING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HAVING THEIR VOICE -- WITH HAVING VOICES HEARD OF THE PUBLIC. I'VE BEEN AT BOTH MEETINGS THUS FAR ON THIS TOPIC, AT SICKLES AND AT WHARTON. AND THE TURNOUT WAS ABYSMAL. SO IN REALITY, THE SOLE REASON IS TO BUY CERTAIN MEMBERS' TIME UNTIL AFTER 2022 ELECTION BECAUSE THEY FEEL THEY MAY BE HURT BY REDISTRICTING THIS YEAR. THIS COULD COST THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN LAWSUITS BECAUSE WE'RE CURRENTLY GROSSLY OVER THE LEGAL 10% VARIANCE. ELECTED OFFICIALS DO NOT GET TO CHOOSE THEIR VOTERS.