001Good evening and welcome to the April 28th business meeting of the Rockland School Board. Uh the meeting local news media outlets were notified in writing of this agenda on Monday, April 27th. At this point, if you will, please join me for the Pledge of Allegiance followed by Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> [snorts] >> Thank you. Please be seated. So, first up tonight is the approval of the agenda. Do I have a motion to approve the agenda? Madam Chair. Can I make an amendment? Yes. So, yes. Would you like to make an amendment? >> Yes. As amended? Yes. Uh Madam Chair, I would like to make a a motion to
002the excuse me, a motion to make an amendment to the agenda to remove um item C under the action agenda. I'd like to move that to a later date. Thank you. So, we have a motion to approve the agenda amended to remove or uh 6C. Made by Vice Chair Hutchinson. Uh do I have a second? Second. Uh thank you, Ms. Ann. Any further discussion? Are there any discussions on this item? No. All those in favor, say aye. All opposed. Motion carries 6-1. I was looking forward to that. Okay. So, next up uh is an executive session. We have an executive session for the topics of employee contract recommendations, uh the superintendent performance evaluation criteria, contractual matter easement, as well as discussion of administrative hires. Do I have a motion uh to adjourn the open session
003and enter the executive session for those matters? Motion to adjourn. Good. Yes, thank you. Uh Ms. Harris, any uh do I have a second? Second. Uh thank you, Ms. Hutchinson. Professor Hutchinson, any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor. Aye. All opposed. Motion carries 7-0. And we will be back around 6:00. >> Mhm. >> [snorts] >> Good evening and welcome back to the April 28th business meeting of the Rock Hill School Board. We have been in meeting in executive session for the purposes of employee contract recommendation and racial discussions, superintendent performance evaluation criteria discussion, contractual matter easement discussion, and administrative hires discussion. At this point, do I have a motion adjourn the executive session and reconvene the open session? So moved. Thank you, Ms. Daniel. Do I have a second? Second. Thank you, Mr. Nozal.
004Any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor? All opposed? Motion carries 7-0. Do I have any motions coming out of executive session? Madam Chair, I have a motion. Yes, I move to approve the superintendent's recommendation for the 2026-2027 contract recommendations and contract non-renewals. Thank you. And do I have a second? Second. Thank you. Madam Chair, um I ask to be recused from number 82 on the contract recommendations two for administrators, please. Thank you, sir. My vote will not include that that individual. Correct. So, restating that motion is that we have a recommendation uh for uh contracts. Um however, uh Dr. Belton has recused himself from number 82 uh on one of those packets. And so, his vote will only count for the remainder of that packet. Let that be on the record. So, with that,
005is there any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor? All opposed? Motion carries 7-0. Do I have any further motions coming out of executive session? Madam Chair, I have a motion. Yes, sir. I move to approve the superintendent's recommendation for the position of elementary principal of Oak Dale Elementary School. Thank you. Do I have a second? Second. Thank you, Ms. Harris. Um uh we have a motion made by um Mr. Nozal, seconded by Ms. Harris, uh for the recommendation of principal at Oak Dale Elementary. [clears throat] Any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor? All opposed? Motion carries 7-0. Do I have any further motions? Madam Chair, I move to approve the superintendent's recommendation for the position of elementary principal of Mount Gallant Elementary School. Thank you. Do I have a second? Second. Thank
006you. So, motion uh made by Vice Chair Hutchinson, seconded by Ms. Daniels, uh for uh uh principal of Mount Gallant Elementary School. Uh any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor? James? All opposed? Motion carries 7-0. Uh Uh any further motions? Madam Chair? Yes. I move to approve the superintendent's recommendation for the position of elementary principal of Leslie Elementary School. Thank you. Do I have a second? Second. >> [laughter] >> Uh Vice Chair Hutchinson enthusiastically uh second. Um Any discussion on that one? Hearing none, all those in favor? Say aye. All right. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries 7-0. Any further motions? Madam Chair, I move to approve the superintendent's recommendation for the position of elementary principal of Sunset Park Elementary School. Thank you. Do I have a second? Second. Thank you, Ms. Harris. Uh
007any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor? All opposed? Motion carries 7-0. Do we have any further motions? Um yes, Madam Chair. I move that the board approve the administration's recommendation authorizing the superintendent to enter into negotiations with the South Carolina Department of Transportation and execute the contract regarding the transfer of approximately 0.02 acres of property located at South Carolina Route 5, tax map number 540-01-01-014 for the purpose of facilitating intersection improvements. Thank you. Do I have a second? Second. Thank you, Ms. Daniel. Any further discussion? Yes, Madam um Madam Chair, um I intend to vote in favor of this um pursuant to the conversation that before any final deals are are made, the superintendent would notify the board of what the dollar amount is and anything. Absolutely. That is the agreement. Yes. Any further
008discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor? All opposed? Let me Let me get that again. All All in favor? Is this a James? May I log in? Okay. All opposed? Okay. Uh we have a six with Harris abstaining. 6-0 with Harris abstaining. Madam Chair, I have another motion. >> Yes. Um I move that the board approve the administration's recommendation authorizing the superintendent to enter into negotiations with the South Carolina Department of Transportation and execute the contract regarding the transfer of approximately 0.03 acres of property located at South Carolina Route 5, tax map map number 540-01-01-004 for the purpose of facilitating intersection improvements. Thank you. Do I have a second? Second. Yes. And under discussion, obviously this is the second piece related to the same the same agreement that Dr. Belton brought up. >> that the
009superintendent prior to entering into an agreement with with the board. Thank you. All those in favor? Say aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries 6-0 with Harris abstaining. Here we go. Does that conclude the motions coming out of executive session? I think so, right? Fantastic. Um so, we are going to move down to citizen participation. I don't believe we have any. Followed by the consent action agenda. The consent action agenda contains minutes from the April 14th School Board business meeting as well as personnel recommendations. Do I have a motion to approve the consent action agenda? So moved. Uh thank you, Vice Chair. Um do I have a second? Second. Thank you, Ms. Harris. Any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor? All opposed? Motion carries 7-0. Brings us down to the action agenda, and I am
010going to uh welcome up Mr. Kevin Mann, who is our chief financial officer, uh who is going to give us some information regarding salary scales uh schedules for teachers and principals. Welcome. Good evening, board. On [clears throat] this screen, you have the salary scales for the teachers for the upcoming year. We have implemented the state Sir, um if you can [clears throat] speak a little bit further into the microphone. Yes, ma'am. Better? Before you you have the salary scale for the upcoming year for the teachers. We're implementing the full increase from the state this year. Each cell that you see up there is increased $2,000. >> [clears throat] >> The salary scale, we discussed this earlier, the assistant principals. You'll notice now the assistant principals are in line with the high school and middle schools.
011One of the changes made after consulting with various elementary principals was the sweet spot for number of days. Days increased to 230 to optimize the use of that position. And the hourly rate was increased as well. The there is separation now between the elementary assistant principals and the teachers. Again, the one of the ideas being that we make sure that we're incentivizing people to step up from within and present opportunities to develop our leadership at the district. And the increases range from about 5,700 to a little more than $9,000 across the board. Okay. Thank you all very much. Thank you. Are there any questions [clears throat] regarding this? Um and again, uh there any problems? Will Will you go back? You Yeah. I I just want to make sure that I'm clear. What it says
012here is 25-26. What I guess what it's intending to say is 26-27. Is that correct? Yes, sir. You are correct. So, that will be the new salary scale starting July 1. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Good catch, sir. So, with that, um I would at this point, at the superintendent's recommendation, uh entertain a motion to approve the 2026-27 salary schedules for teachers and assistant principals. Do I have a second? I'll I'll second that. Second. Okay. Um so, I Who I probably should have had the motion ready. >> I'll make the motion. >> Thank you. Yes. >> [clears throat] >> Did you have a question? Uh yes. Okay. Um I did I did notice I did receive um just some feedback about the actual change in days with the assistant principals in particular. Um uh
013on the elementary side I believe it stepped up for two from 220 to 230. Um so just curious about the increase in the days in relation to this. Uh Madam Chair and members of the board, thank you for your question, Vice Chair. Uh the reason for the increase in days is when you looked at the old salary schedule, um elementary school principals were on a 220. And so teachers are on a 190. So to te- to work for 30 more days and the the salary schedule was such that it was really not an incentive to take on more days for essentially less pay. And so what we were able to do is bring elementary school uh assistant principals more in line with their peers at the middle school and the high school. Um I did
014talk with several elementary principals to make sure that that is that would be a good use of the elementary assistant principals' time that they would need them for that those additional 10 days. I wasn't able to talk to every single one, but I talked to a sample and that's how we landed with the 230 days. So that brings them closer in line with their peers at the middle school and the high school level. Additionally, elementary school principals are on a 240. So they're already with out So with this schedule they're without their assistant principal for 2 weeks in the summer, whereas high schools and middle schools have their assistant principal all summer long. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. So at this point I have a motion made by Dr. Belton. I I don't have a
015question. I just have a statement. First of all, thank you um for doing this out there and your team for making this happen. I know that has been a constant source of um a challenge for elementary assistant principals particularly. Secondly, with summers getting so summers now getting shorter, I'm not sure how you're not going to be able to go to assistant principals at elementary going to 240 like principals with with shorter summers. There's just so much to turn around in the summer. So you know, I don't know where you are with your thought. I'm just throwing it out. I know that's not this year, but with short summers it just appears now that all administrators will probably be 240 at some point. Likely. Yeah. I'm sorry. No, you're fine. So we have motion made by
016Dr. Belton seconded by Mr. Nossel. Uh if there are there any further discussion, all those in favor say aye. >> [snorts] >> All opposed. Motion carries 6-0. I believe we lost Mr. Brown. Um So next up is the course approvals for um uh the winter art history and state of the courses. The board has uh reviewed the list and uh and you got some had a lot of information in small group. Um but uh Miss Alicia Johnson, our executive director of secondary education, is up here to answer any further questions should they have arise since small groups. Good evening. Are there any questions? Uh at that point I would entertain a motion to approve the course approvals uh for the winter art history and state of the courses. Motion. Thank you, Dr. Belton. Do I
017have a second? Second. Uh thank you, Ms. Peters. Any further discussion? [clears throat] Hearing none, all those in favor. All opposed. Motion carries 7-0. Thank you. Okay. So that brings us to uh communications. Would you not have any communications today? So we're going to move down to presentations and first up is the fiscal year quarterly finance report. And if the community remembers, this is something we started last year uh to have quarterly public finance reports uh in part of transparency. Um and I welcome back up Mr. Kevin Madden, our CFO. Uh this relates to goal two. Good evening, board again. This is going to be very similar to the format that you all saw in the second quarter, Mr. Brown. I'll touch on the differences here in a little bit. Reminder again, this is we're
018looking at year over year three quarters of the year from the previous year to now. >> [snorts] >> The strength of this district is in its tax base. You'll see the property taxes are coming in strong and very helpful. We're a very blessed district with a strong tax base. Downside on the revenue side, the state revenue was down slightly from budget. We've had a slight decline in student enrollment, that translates to a little less revenue from the state. On the expenditure side, everything is coming in as expected. The salaries are a little bit lower, benefits, except for the purchase services. That is ahead of budget right now. That's going to be an opportunity to improve in the upcoming budget. We're going to focus on that and make sure we have a truer number in that
019in the future. The fund balance. That chart basically shows the dip throughout the year. Think about when people typically pay their property taxes, the bulk of that comes in January. You'll see our fund balance dip down, then go back up when the property taxes are collected, dip back down again. One change I made in this chart from what you've seen previously is I raised the fund balance. The policy is 17 to 25%. This district doesn't try to be minimal with anything they do, so I raised that to 25%. I expect the district to finish at approximately 25% for this fiscal year and we'll work hard to maintain that level going forward in the future. As you're aware, all of y'all I think were around one form or fashion when the district when the state went
020through the recession in 2008. There can be cuts, there can be other thing may may things happen through the year. That's why it's essential just like your personal household that we maintain some type of cushion. And this is in line with GAAP away best standards as well. Key takeaways, revenues are strong. We are going to carry that forward to the next year's budget. We'll talk about that in a second when you do your budget preview. The expenditures are in line with expectations. And the school district continues to improve its financial condition year over year. Again, the district is in strong financial shape right now. I want to make sure everybody's aware of that. All right, I'm going to jump right into the budget update and I'll try not to get too animated about stuff over
021there for Dr. Belton. Okay. >> [snorts] >> Getting into the budget right now. Talked about local tax revenue coming in strong. We are forecasting some strong property tax growth in the next year's budget. That's one of the factors that's currently right now enabling us to have a balanced budget without a tax increase and taking care of our employees. Increase in state funding will not cover the required I'll go one second here. >> [cough] >> No, I'm good. Please keep going. Please keep going. I'm listening. The the state funding we're going to receive at approximately additional 2.8 million in state funding. The required salary increases for the teachers are approximately 4.4 million dollars. As we've discussed before, that is just the way the formula is in the state. Over time, more and more of the burden
022shifts on the local tax base. Reality of where we live in, that's why school districts cannot really sustain in any long term with non-tax increases while operating a well-run district. We're we're [cough and clears throat] going to be able to do this year, but in the future we'll have to um monitor that. Don't don't be surprised if it's something we do have to have a tax increase because of exactly that. That's just the environment we live in. This year we focused on communication and cooperation across the district. We've had teachers meeting with principals meeting with us, meeting with all department heads. This budget, as all budgets should be and what we're going to do going forward, there's communication from the teachers all the way on up. We want to make sure we hear from everybody
023and we're in the process right now of finishing those communications where we're going to be receiving all the budget information back from the schools and departments by the end of this month. And then we'll have some back and forth with them to make sure we understand their request. And we'll ultimately be finalizing the budget before y'all see that budget in the first meeting in May. But the communications and the understanding of where we at is a priority of this administration. I can promise you that as well as this board. I've had discussions with y'all about that, the importance of clear understanding of our financial conditions. And data-based decisions. I don't leave that off. Every decision we go through, particularly looking at what we're doing in the schools. The request is for information. What what Why
024is this program successful or not successful? We try to make sure the teachers understand that initiatives that are not successful or are needed, those are those are being lifted and and we want to focus on the what is improving, what's going on in the classrooms. All the way up. And the budget definitely impacts that. Okay, this is a snapshot right now of where the current revenues look. I expect right now with interest rates going like that are the interest income projections probably going to go up. We're going to be somewhere around 240 million dollars in the total budget. When you look at the change in our budget, the 4.5 million dollars, if you remember, 4.4 was teacher salary increases. Working with HR and working with the different schools, we've been able to optimize the staffing
025levels. Nobody that has a job in the district that wants to continue work in the district is losing their job, but we have been able to not fill all of vacancies while still maintaining the optimal levels in the classrooms. So, that's what I give credit to HR and everybody we've worked with throughout that process to make sure we're where we need to be from a staffing standpoint. This is the exact same slide y'all saw in the third quarter update. You know, again, the [snorts] purchasing services, that category, that's one we're going to try to improve upon in next year's budget. We're in the process of developing a plan for that right now. Final steps, there are a handful of positions we're trying to make sure we need or don't need. And again, that's a that's
026not a one-person decision. That's going to be a group effort where we evaluate everything and ultimately make a recommendation to Dr. Elder. And then looking at the non-payroll expenditures, we are still receiving those requests from the departments and from schools, and we'll be feverishly evaluating all of those and trying to do the best we can with the communications back to the schools and departments to make sure we understand what we're doing and they have no surprises when the budget does roll out. >> [clears throat] >> And the last thing as I've talked about, key communication and discussions with key stakeholders. And y'all are probably the biggest stakeholder involved in this and it is paramount that we make sure y'all understand what you're looking at, our financial condition, and why we're doing what we're doing. And
027I appreciate, honestly, all of the discussions we've had at the school level with the department heads and with y'all in the small groups. It's been very, very helpful. I do appreciate all of y'all's attention and participation in that. Thank you. Are there any questions further for Mr. Madden regarding this? I probably missed Mr. Grizzle. Thank you, Mr. Madden. Thank you, Dr. Elder. I appreciate the information. I appreciate the transparency, the collaboration that you and your executive team are using to work with the schools to make sure that everyone is on the same page and everyone is working together to make sure that the principals have what they need to teach our kids. And I'm very thankful for that. So, thank you very much. Thank you very much for optimizing this, being transparent, letting us know
028exactly how much money we have, how much money you think is going to be coming back in so that it's it's clear for everybody. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. So, next up Next up is um Thank you, Madam Chair. Members of the board, um we're extremely proud to share some exciting news. Five of our schools have earned the prestigious Palmetto Gold and Palmetto Palmetto Silver awards from the state. Independence and Cherry Park Elementary schools received Palmetto Gold. Ebenezer Elementary, Oakdale Elementary, and and India Hook Elementary earned Palmetto Silver honors. We will be celebrating them with great fanfare at a future board meeting in recognition. Since our last board meeting, I've enjoyed attending [clears throat] several incredible events across the district and the community, including the Exceptional Student Education Prom. There is no event you
029could ever attend that would bring you joy the way that event brings joy. Um I got to attend South Pointe's um state championship ring ceremony with their football team. They did a fantastic job. Um they had the parents give the students the ring. It was just beautiful and a beautiful moment between um the parents who supported their kids through um so much preparation and to such a such an exciting end to their season. I attended a wonderful performance of Alice in Wonderland at Castle Heights um Castle Heights Middle School. Um we also held our second budget round table last week at Sullivan Middle School. I got to attend the Sam Foster Endowment lunch with the Northwestern class of 1975. You could just still see the school spirit. It was just amazing. Um the Old English
030Consortium, the Men's Kiwanis Mayor's Prayer Breakfast, and many great come see me events, which was wonderful this first year in Rock Hill to get to be a part of that. Student registration for the 2026-2027 school year continues. Um please tell everybody to visit the Rock Hill Schools website for detailed information and to complete the registration process. We want your kids. Um we want them in our schools. Another exciting announcement, Northwestern High School next year will compete in the Keep Pounding Classic on August 29th at Bank of America Stadium. As you remember, South Pointe was able to participate this past year. So, next year is Northwestern's turn. Um tickets are currently available for purchase through Ticketmaster. And our next board meeting will be held Tuesday, May 12th, and as always, will be streamed live on Facebook
031and YouTube. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Next up is other future business, anything for the betterment of the group? Madam Chairman, very quickly, say something. Um Dr. Elder, thank you for mentioning the Sam Foster Endowment lunch and I know you and Madam Chair and I got an opportunity to to to attend that. More importantly, what we saw there and you touched on it briefly and I want to expand on it a bit more, is just the tremendous school pride that those people who started, who were the inaugural class at at at Northwestern, and that still continues to this day. The Rock Hill has something to really be proud of. The people who graduated I've lived with one for 30 years and she will tell you once a Bearcat, always a Bearcat. So,
032I've seen it from the Rock Hill High side, but I really saw it from the Northwestern side these last several events I've went to for Mr. I've gone to for Mr. Foster. So, we have something to build on. We're on some amazing shoulders to stand on and I hope our principals recognize and understand that in Northwestern, they have an amazing torch that has been passed to them. Secondly, last night I went as a parent to the Applied Technology Center's completer program at South Pointe, and I'm just going to tell you, there were 100 plus kids there who really got a license to go to work last night at South Pointe High School, and we have something in that Applied Technology Center. I don't think it's a hidden jewel. It is an absolute jewel. We have
033a phenomenal leader out there in the principal, and I hope that our board will really take an opportunity, and I'm kind of saying this to the CFO, the superintendent, and all, that next year we make that a priority and not only in facilities, but in modernizing those programs and growing that. That is something amazing out there. For those of you who are not familiar with it, I just I wasn't that familiar until I had a child out there and I'm completely 100% sold out to our Applied Technology Center. So, thank you. Thank you. And I think we can all agree to all to those statements. So, with that, uh I'll entertain a motion to adjourn the business meeting, but we're going to reconvene it with a work session following it, but we adjourn the business
034meeting. Anybody want to make a motion? James is not here, so I'll do it. Motion to adjourn. Second. Second. Thank you, Mr. Dr. Belton. I second it by Mr. Daniel. Any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor. All opposed. Motion [laughter] carried. Settled there. We'll take >> Uh local news media was notified in writing of the agenda on Monday, April 27th. At this point, I'll entertain a motion to approve the agenda as presented. So moved. Thank you, Mr. Nozal. Uh do I have a second? Second. Thank you, Ms. Harris. Any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. I. All opposed? Motion carries 6-0. So, we have set an approximate end time uh for this work session uh for no later than 7:30 or so, uh but we do have some things to talk
035about today. So, we are going to continue our uh presentations on demographics and facilities studies. Um and I am going to welcome up at Mr. Darren Wilson, who is our assistant superintendent of operations and safety management to tell us more about the rest of our district. Good evening, Madam Chair and members of the board. Um as stated with tonight, we are going to continue our discussions on the demographic study and the facilities assessment. We do have uh Mr. Jim Britt with LMG tonight here. Uh we're going to focus on the areas three primary areas tonight. That will be the middle schools, the high schools, and the facilities uh services. And um with that, I'll bring up Mr. Britt. Uh [clears throat] good evening. Um pleased to be here tonight to conclude the uh facility assessment
036for the uh district facilities um part two, which is the um Well, secondary and central services. As you recall, we did the elementary uh last month. And so, uh quick refresher, um these were our kind of parameters that we used to review the facilities. And um we'll just move into the middle schools. We have five facilities that we reviewed. And this will be the same format as last time. Um the uh middle and high will have two slides per facility, and the central services will have one. Uh so, the middle school. >> [clears throat] >> Again, to get you oriented. Um so, the middle at the top is our five years uh in the rear for actual attendance, and then 10 years moving forward with projections. At the bottom is the uh live in attend
037graph. And then uh all the way to the left is um um data history, facility history of each um that that will be included. So, built in 1957, um all to all additions over the years, capacity of 100 uh 1,052. Incidentally, you saw core capacities and uh and uh student capacities uh often differed in the elementary. Middle and um high, they are uh in all cases were the same. Current enrollment 738, and about 160,000 square feet, which equates to 152 square feet per student, which is kind of what you would see uh once you get into the middle and high, you'll have a higher student per square foot ratio. Uh with regards to the financial um uh portion of the facility. The past So, it was a little confusing last time in where I've got
038it written. So, it says past 10 years and then past 20 years. The past 20 years is not a cumulative amount. It's basically a 10-year period from 2005 to 2014, and then the secondary would be 2015 to current. So, in in this case, uh approximately 2.7 million was spent uh from 2005 to 14, and then 5.3 from 15 to current. Uh looking forward, So, this is an aging facility. Uh I will say this. I I would like to say earlier, I do want to shout out to the facility uh maintenance folks. They've done a really good job, and I I'll I'll say that uh to anyone that listens. The fit and finish of these facilities, uh they've done very well with maintaining them. Certainly, there's some things outside of their uh purview that uh are
039a little more difficult. For example, this facility has some some uh exterior wall issues that are not typical maintenance items. Um and that's some of the things that are going into what's the uh the larger uh projected needs. The chart on the right is the list of all of the items uh that are included along with the year required. Then moving to um Rawlinson Road. It's a 1972, three additions. Little larger with 1,173 student um capacity. Incidentally, all your middle schools are relatively the same, which is a very good uh goal to have uh with um dividing and and maintaining and and providing equity amongst the students. Enrollment's lower at 592. It's about 9,000 square feet smaller than uh Sullivan at 151, which gives you the lower lower student um per square foot uh ratio.
040And then Rawlinson Road, um 6.5 million, 6.8 million, and projecting almost 21 million in the next 10 years. And again, a lot of these a lot of you'll see reoccurring are uh in building envelope, roofing, and then building systems, electrical and and HVAC. You'll see a lot of that. Saluda Trail, uh 1999. Uh 1,040 and uh 162,000 feet with 129 per uh square foot. This one actually, the projections and the uh historical data align. And projections uh in in historical capital improvements, 1.2 million. Uh you would think that'd be smaller in it as it is because it was relatively new school back then. So, it wasn't a lot of uh upkeep then. Uh past uh the the trailing 10 years uh creeped up almost a little more than double. And then we're projecting uh 12
041uh 12 million over the next years. Incidentally, this facility has had some recent HVAC improvements, um hence that number being a little smaller. Castle Heights, 2004. Um it's 22 years old, so you're going to start seeing some larger numbers uh for this facility. A lot of the original equipment. 1,144 uh student capacity. Current enrollment 649. 167,000. That's skewed a little bit because it does have an auditorium. Uh and then you have 154 um students uh per square foot. And then projections uh Castle Heights, uh as you would would think, a lower number for the first 10 years. Uh creeped up uh the past 10 years, and then we're projecting 20.5. But again, remember this facility is really at a milestone in its in its life. 20 to 25 years uh in a building's life is
042when you really expect to see some of the larger type numbers, roofing, HVAC. Uh Dutchman Creek, 2008. Uh it's a sister school, uh relatively the same. Uh 171,000 with 822 current enrollment. Uh with 150 students um per square foot. Or 150 square feet per student. And then similar, you're reaching that milestone over the next 10 years. Uh 31 million, which would include the uh the initial capital uh cost for building the facility. Trailing 10 years, 942,000 and they're projecting almost 23 million for the next 10 years. And so this [clears throat] is the overall attendance map graph. Total um cumulative total actual in red and the projections in green. And this is a recap of all costs. Um uh and this is put in context of where the needs are um are identified. Um new
043construction, which we have a little bit, but it's it's very minor. Um it's not what we'd call cap they're not student assigned or student driven. Um renovations, site, paving, athletic, roofs, food, food service, plumbing, HVAC, electrical, and then supports. Over the past over the 2005 to 2014, there was 42 million spent on those facilities. Trailing 10 years, 17 million, and we're looking at almost 98 million for the next 10 years. Any questions? Uh we'll go into the high schools. So we've got three high schools and a vocational that will be that I'll discuss. And I'm starting with Northwestern. It is your oldest high school. In 1971, it has had two additions, '91 and '02. Current capacity is 1976 and enrollment is 1797. Uh if you should actually feel some pressure at that facility with the
044enrollment to the capacity. Square feet 318,000 and the square feet per student 161, which is again is creeping up and that's what you expect to see on a high school type facility. Uh Northwestern um '05 to '14, 5 million. It tripled in the past 10 years. And then we're projecting almost 29 million. Again, a lot of it is in HVAC and roofing, uh some athletics uh needs as well. The Applied Technology facility. Um this one I kind of took a stab at. Um so it it's maybe a little misleading a little bit. Uh and I'll talk to you for a second. 1973, student capacity. That's based on 25 per room um at 45 rooms. They don't all attend at the same time, so you're going to have a higher attendance than you would have capacity.
045Uh but it can be misleading. Uh same thing with the square feet per student. That's really doesn't really apply. But you have 100 almost 112,000 square feet of this is at this facility. The green line, the way I came over that, I only had 3 years of historical data. I just averaged them out and came up with the green line as a static line across. Needs um '05 to '14, 1.5 million uh past 10 years, almost 9 million and projecting out uh a little over 7 million. Raco High School, 1977, five additions, 2158 uh for the capacity. It's a little bit the same [cough and clears throat] square footage, I think it's about 3,000 square feet off from Northwestern. Uh square feet per student 148. Uh again, uh '05 to '14, 4.3. 10 [clears throat]
046years, 17, very similar to what you spent at Northwestern. Uh projected almost 31 million, which is a similar number to what we have identified >> [cough and clears throat] >> at uh at Northwestern as well. And then Southpoint. Uh It still feels new. I I remember this facility being built. It seems like it was yesterday, but it's been 20 years. Um no additions, 1872. It's a larger facility compared to the other high schools at 364,000 feet, which equates to a 195 square feet per student. Current enrollment is 1135. And again, you know, this facility has reached a milestone in its life. It's new, but it's it's kind of hard to believe, but the the '05 to '14, almost half a million. 10 times more over the past 10 years, and then we're projecting 31 million
047in the next 10 years. >> [clears throat] >> And this is the overall graph of the historical data on the And this does not include VATC. It would skew everything, but this is your high school students. Um historical in red and projections going forward. Again, the the drop off you need to discount that because we did not have data that from all the reports that went 10 years. So the last accurate number will be the 4827. Say that again. The last accurate number So there's multiple uh projections. Okay, 33. >> Some Some are 3 years, some are 9 years, so we tried to discount it and and we completely discounted the McKibbon report. It was skewing everything. So um with 9 years and 10 years with having a zero at the 10th year, we could
048have either gone a static and just kept their number, but it it kind of it's wrong either way. So the the last date uh would be the 4827, which would be the 32-33 school year. And this is the overall same format as the middle schools. Um in category, um 11 million '05 to '14, 47 million almost 48 million in the trailing 5 year 10 years, and then 98 million projected over the next 10 years. And then our last uh area is what we call central services. It's the back of the house of the district. Um They They don't the district won't function without these facilities, generally speaking. Um but they often are forgotten about cuz they're out in the front. Uh but we have nine facilities that we we reviewed. And we'll start with the
049Carroll School, 1930. Um There was something done in 2003, but it's about 3,000 square feet. Uh reported zero dollars spent from '05 to '14. 15 to '26, 3,000. Uh this facility is kind of in a place where it really needs to be completely It needs a lot of love. And so 290,000 over the next 10 years. And And it's not really the next 10 years, it's next year. Uh Children's School at Sylvia Circle. I think this is uh incorrect uh name. Is that Is that correct now? It It was It It was a Same word you used. That's correct terminology. It's It's changed several times since I've started this. I'm not sure I got it right. 1950, three additions, 54,000 feet. Um And I won't go over all the numbers, but the past 20 years
050relatively the same amount of time money spent in the first 10 year component versus the second 10 year component. Projected needs 7.3 million. I will say you could certainly spend a lot more than on that facility. That doesn't include rewiring. It's got a lot of old aging electrical, plumbing. It It It really could If this was going to be something that was going to be pulled back into use educationally, you would probably identify a lot of other needs. Bellevue Elementary, um 1955, five additions, 74,000 feet. Similar in size to most of your elementary schools. Uh 4.6 million, 1.3 million, and we're projecting almost 3 million over the next 10 years. Fenley Road, uh 1957, four additions, 64,000 feet. Um in the next 10 years, we're looking at close to 1.8 million. Um Flex Learning Center,
051Flexible Learning Center, 1957, three additions, a a larger facility. I believe this used to be a middle school. Uh 134,000 square feet. Um '05 to '14, 1.3 million. Trailing 10 years, uh 950,000, and then projections at uh almost 7.7 million. Uh Facility Services, um 78. Uh no additions square foot footage about 55,000. First 10 years 21 million almost 22 million trailing 10 years 11.8 million. And projected needs 3.6 million. District 3 stadium. 1980 I've heard that that might be incorrect but we didn't have any specific data. If anybody wants to correct me I'll be happy to listen. Um, the uh the facilities associated with that are about 8. About almost 9,000 square feet. I'm excuse me the capacity of the stadium almost uh uh 9,000 8,078 square footage 11,000 almost 12. Uh 05 to 14
052almost 2 million uh trailing 10 1 million and projections are 2.4 million. We broke this out. We didn't include this was part of the uh uh South Point High School campus so we pulled it out and identified it as a separate item from our initial study. Uh built with the state with the school in 05. 5,328 uh capacity 5,000 is an important number so you can host uh district tournaments or district uh playoff games. And um 27 million uh which would be part of the original school construction. I think they did the best they could with breaking that out. Uh the cost uh my gut is part of the 27 million actually belongs to part of the school. Um past 20 years I excuse me past the trailing 10 years 1.7 million. And projections are
0532.1 which is similar in need to the uh D3 stadium. >> [clears throat] >> And then district office. Most recent facility 2018. Uh no additions almost 29,000 square feet. Uh 498,000 I believe that was probably part of the original uh DO um on Henderson Road. And then the trailing 10 was 8. uh almost 8 little over 8 million which uh would really be close to construction. Projections uh 880,000 over the next 10 years. And then a recap of your central service. This does have uh it was going to skew my numbers usually because there's some couple items that are on here like the YMCA and transportation you don't YMCA you don't really operate it but that was part of our review so they're included. We can certainly discount those but uh these are new square
054footage and of course So 32 million from 05 to 14 15 to 16 26 30 million projected needs 31 million over the next 10 years. That's kind of a lot but it's consistent [clears throat] across uh that. So recap of everything 35 district facilities that we included and reviewed. And it's going to be hard to read but that's every facility uh the the chart the blue is the name of the facility the next chart the next column is the total expected needs uh over the next 10 years. And then we've got it broken down per year of needs. So if you follow down to the bottom it kind of tells you uh per year what you would need to kind of spend to maintain the facility. That that totals 336 million 151,235 dollars. And that's
055not adding any educational space that's just maintaining what you have. And I believe that's my last slide. So if there are any questions I'll be more than happy to try to answer. Yes Miss Harris. I don't have a question but thank you um to LMG for putting this together but as I was looking at the data I was just struck by how old these facilities are but how I know there's need obviously there's need but just I think we need to give a shout out to the facilities staff for really maintaining pristine conditions. I know we talk about classroom environments and making sure that they are you know um in the best shape for children learn but I think overall the facilities has to mirror that environment so I just if any facilities people are
056listening and Mr. Darren if you'll pass this out just thank them because walking in and seeing some of these facilities and looking at the year they were built I was shocked you know that it's been kept um so well pristine and I know again there's been improvements but just I just want to shout out to the owner. I agree with that 100%. I agree wholeheartedly um I really love the fact that we've had so much time to in small group really dig into the data numbers and have time to chat digest and then to come back together with the transparency um comfortable leadership to to learn more about these numbers. Um one thing which I just want to point out along with you were saying as well is um I really hope uh and wish
057that one of the first priorities that we really consider is the Carroll School because we have an an opportunity uh to make sure that we preserve that historical significance in our district and it is important. Um and I know that we have tons of needs however um I think we've heard loud and clear that this needs to happen now or that history is going to pass and and I would hate for that to happen. So anyway that's just my little wish. Madam Chair if I may Sorry that's really loud. The RFP for the Carroll School construction is out now um and open so we are very well the need very well aware that the need is urgent we feel that too and want to be sure that we take care of this incredible historical asset
058that we have. Perfect thank you. Anyone else have anything? Yeah. Just quickly I want to say um thank you for the presentation. Thank you for uh prioritizing the Carroll School that certainly has a lot of significance um in our community to a lot of people um but I do want to remind this board I want to remind the community and I want to remind all contractors that are out there that I do think that we have an obligation to ensure that we are fair in bidding and that we are uh we are considering minority contractors minority bidding. We are a community we are a diverse community and I know that we have an emphasis on local um contractors and certainly I'm not opposed to local contractors but I just want to make sure that we
059as a board send a clear message that we are open for business to all people to include minority businesses. And I don't think that in our community as a whole um as someone who has been a business person out in the community that that has been um something it's it's been a topic that people will shy away from but as a trustee on this board it's not a topic I'm going to share I'm going to shy away from. Thank you sir. >> [snorts] >> Honey if there's nothing else I will entertain a motion to adjourn. Thank you. Motion to adjourn. Thank you sir. And of course thank you Mr. Briden. Actually I've done that before. Okay I got a motion to adjourn by Dr. Belton. Do I have a second? Second. Thank you Mr. Nozal.
060Any discussion? I'm going to say something real quick because I hadn't said it the last time. Um just everybody knows we had this exact same meeting last week where we got all these presentations we just we had that presentation last week and we all asked lots of questions. Yes. Um so this is not something that we're just seeing for the first time and just saying all right move to adjourn the meeting. Um we spent a lot of time with these presentations with these numbers with these people over here. So I just everybody needs to know that. Mr. Nozal thank you for saying that cuz I'm I'm sitting here just really struggling with the fact that we spent two hours going through all of this but as trustees do we need to have all the conversations
061upstairs and in small group or do those conversations need to be had cuz certainly I can ask my two hours of questions that we haven't so I'm kind of feeling like the community is looking at us you know we got seven intelligent people up here are they just rubber stamping and moving on. So thank you for saying that cuz I'm really struggling with that and and maybe we need to rethink that. Um I don't want to spend two hours up there and then spend another two hours down here but I do think the public deserves to hear the conversations that we're having up there and maybe we get the information and we save our questions for public discussion cuz I'm I'm I'm really feeling very uncomfortable with this. So thank you for raising it. I
062wasn't going to raise it but it is making me feel extremely uncomfortable that we're having two three hours worth of conversation up here and we're saying nothing down here. And and to be clear just to to be transparent that is not a quorum of the board. That is upsetting, >> but it needs to be said. 100% A small group, it's not a quorum. So, nothing illegal is going on, but it's still a lot of conversation to piece Mr. Nozal's point. There's still a lot of conversation up here that I think the public needs to hear. And I think that we, as we go through this process, have, you know, had conversations about do we need longer We, you know, this takes time. This takes a lot of time to dig through. And if we do
063that during a board meeting, that means that that board meeting is going to We are going to be here until 9:00. And then, there's a lot of feedback saying the board meetings are too long, right? So, we need to find the balance of which way do we have it? I I hear what you're saying and I don't disagree, but we can't say, "Let's have it all in open session and come together as a group and do that and then expect the board meetings to only last about 2 hours." So, and and again, we can have further conversations about it. It's just we got to find the balance, basically. Um and maybe the the middle point is what Dr. Belton suggested, which is to save the questions for the public. Um and have the conversation in
064public and get the information upstairs. I don't know. Lacey has something to say. I think Jennifer needs to go. >> Oh, I just wanted to second that and I think I've expressed that a couple of times. Just our small group sessions, it's kind of like we don't have we ask all the questions and we have the conversations, but we don't have it here and I I don't want to get to the point So, I'm just seconding Dr. Belton. I don't want to get to the point where we're, you know, neutered in our what we're saying and what we're thinking and then, of course, as we get questions, like I did get the question I whispered in your ear that I got that today after the agenda was uh released, but I think uh we do
065need to find I'm just agreeing that we do need to find that balance because we are trustees of the board and we're trustees of the district and we represent the public. So, we we do need to talk about the future cuz the it's I have questions, but it's just like, okay. So, the discussion point that I was going to bring up as we wrapped up the work session, um was I mentioned it in small groups, but I wanted to mention it here publicly. I appreciate that we got the facility study. I've been asking for that um since shortly after I joined the board, so I do appreciate now we have this information. Um I'll say I've learned a lot as a board member and some things have surprised me as a board member and so
066I would like to say publicly, it baffles me that the district does not have a facilities plan for maintaining and renewing and I have been very honest about this in small groups and it's nothing necessarily to slight uh current uh staff or the superintendent, but now that we have this um information and it has been laid out, I have an expectation as a board member for a facilities plan to be presented for discussion and for approval. Um we are supposed to be good stewards of our money and also of our facilities, which are our largest asset, money, you know, and so I still am astounded that there was not anything in place currently to keep maintain [clears throat] these and know how we're going to go through um what facilities need to be new, what
067we need to do to them. So, that is my expectation moving forward um that sometime soonish, a plan is presented for us to begin to discuss and share with the taxpayers and the community of how we're going to address the needs that have been laid out. Thank you. Okay, so we do have a motion on the floor made by Dr. Belton and Mr. Nozal to adjourn. Uh we've had some discussion and uh if there are nothing else, all those in favor. All opposed. Motion carries 6-0.