001Good evening everyone. How are you doing? Thank you so much for joining us here this evening. Really appreciate it. Um I am going to call this meeting to order. If you're so inclined, please feel free to join us in the pledge. I alian flag of the United States. On behalf of the board, I welcome all members of the audience to this evening's meeting. This meeting is a working session of the board to conduct the business of the district. The agenda for today's meeting has been published and the agenda agenda items to be discussed and/or voted on have been studied by the board members. I'd like to introduce the people participating in today's meeting. Recording secretary Peggy King, Superintendent Dr. Justin Irish, board members Sandy Hayes, Han Tran, Jacqueline McGordy, and Elizabeth Sotac. I am Amy
002Cast, and I currently serve as president of the board. An agenda for this meeting is available online at boarddoccks.com and copies are also located on the table at the back of the boardroom. There will be an opportunity for both virtual and in-person public comments to be shared during the association and public comment portion of the meeting. Community members who are interested in viewing the meeting with closed captions are encouraged to follow the link on our website to the district's YouTube channel. The YouTube stream includes includes clo closed captioning for both regular board meetings and study sessions. Visit nsd.org and under our district, click school board, then board meeting materials and videos. If you are here to address the board on agenda items, please sign in using the sign-in sheet on the table at the back
003of the room and take a number which corresponds with the line where you signed in. The first order of business today is the land acknowledgement. Director Tran, >> we take this time to acknowledge that the Northshore School District occupies the unseated coast Salish lands that have been here since time immemorial. We honor the ways of knowing and ways of being of indigenous peoples and tribal nations who are still here and thriving in our district community. We acknowledge that this is a working land acknowledgement that will continue to evolve as our partnership with local indigenous peoples and tribal leaders expands. >> Thank you, Director Tran. Next on our agenda is the approval of the agenda. Would the board like to make any changes to the agenda as published? >> All right, seeing none, is there a
004motion to approve the agenda? >> So moved. >> Second. >> All right, it's been moved and seconded. See no further discussion. We'll call for the vote and the agenda passes. Thank you very much. Next item on the agenda is the superintendence report. Dr. Irish. >> Good evening board. I'm going to give you an update on the happenings over the last couple weeks. Um starting with my entry plan as the new superintendent. I've been engaging with uh beginning to engage with stakeholders um internally and externally. Um so I've had uh and I'm finishing my meetings with principles right now. Uh this will be my final week of interviewing and meeting with them either one-on-one or in small groups. I have uh met with uh our Northshore um special education council PTSA as well as the Northshore
005um our special education PTSA as well as the Northshore PTSA. Um I've also have started meeting with our labor groups. I've met with NEOPA as well as NSEA and NASA. And then um Wednesday morning I get to meet um m with Mary Kerry uh with um executive director Carrie Campbell and Craig Foster to discuss uh our community engagement and the ways in which we're collecting data as I'm starting to engage and and reach out into the community. Um we've had many August launches. Uh we've met with the uh new teachers August Academy uh the induction team. I've had introduction and meeting with our athletic directors. um welcome back our transit um transportation inservice as well as the welcoming back of our custodial um August inservice. Um I've participated um and observed part of the summer
006institute for staff hosted at Northshore Middle School and tomorrow get to welcome back our child nutrition um um in service uh as well as tomorrow our district nurses um and introduce myself to them and then this week I also get to meet with the teaching and learning department and get to know them a little better. As for capital projects, I've engaged in a full tour of the Inglemore High School construction project and um getting a deeper understanding of phase one and then phase two and phase three hopefully. Um and then engaging um we we had our Leotaa school topping out ceremony. So that was really fun to see. Um and then a big barbecue thereafter. and then um had a team meeting um recently to just discuss our final phases before moving in um in
007all of our construction sites to ensure that we have a smooth transition um for the start of the school year. And then as for community, um you were all there as well, but we uh got to participate in the wall of honor ceremony, which is a great tradition in the um in our in our um area in both and Kenmore in Wooden Woodenville um in celebrating um student as well as uh outstanding community members um and their contributions as well as um met with the Washington Alliance for Better Schools. I'm part of their board right now and we had our first board meeting of the year as well as a partner breakfast with all of the organizations um that are partnering with WABS. I also had a meeting um with um the uh with ICOB
008um and just discuss the parking lot as well as get to know them better, start to build relationships and think about our partnerships existing today and how they could um further uh continue to partner with them. uh met with Mayor Milman and city city manager Brandon Buchanan today um and had a really good um conversation about our partnership and um and the intersectionalities of our work. Um and then met with Ava Thomas and I met with the AGO um office to talk about our gender inclusive schools um just to talk about the work that's being done in Washington state to help support our students. uh and they were leaning in on the practices that we have in Northshore and we are um noted as an exemplary um in the ways in which we're um providing
009service to our students. And so uh that was a an honor to share the great work that um the predecessors before me have done as well as that Ava has led um to make that happen. Um and then uh this Sunday participated in the community serve day. Got to see some of you there. Um was at Cooney Elementary, Northshore Middle School as well as Arrowhead Elementary. And then I'm going to be out in the buildings on Wednesday and most of the day on Thursday. We have our inservice for staff. So it'll be a great opportunity for me to meet and uh introduce myself to to more people. So that is uh my u my updates as of the last couple weeks. >> Thank you, Superintendent Irish. Any questions from the board on the report? All
010right. Thank you. Um, next up is Northshore Spotlights, which is an opportunity for the board to highlight great things happening around Northshore. And when we were planning our agenda, um, we decided we wanted to highlight all the work going on by our community in support of our schools as we're ramping up, kind of putting the public and public education. Um we had the back to school fair on August 7th um where in addition to Northshore um school district departments um books were handed out by generous community members. There were community health providers there. Um King County Metro was there, PTSA mental health supports and others. Um there's the wall of honor celebration which talks about the legacy of um past uh community members who have gone through Northshore schools as well as supported Northshore schools
011um which really keeps that lifelong connection to our schools and then of course community serve day yesterday where um thousands of people come to help our schools prep. So just again um we we take it to heart um when our public supports our public schools. So, just wanted to call that out really quick. That's our spotlight for today. So, then we will move to public comment on the next um section. So, association and public comments. The Northshore School District Board of Directors has set aside a period of up to 60 minutes to receive updates and comments from district association leaders and community members. As referenced in multiple policies adopted by the board, we expect all parties addressing the board to present their comments in a way that's civil and respectful. This means that whether we're
012school directors, district staff, students, members of the community, or some other guest, we must all follow the same standard of civility during schoolboard meetings. Please speak directly to the board and address matters related to district operations, policies, procedures, and agenda items under consideration by the board. Washington state law requires that the board limit its business and discussion at the board meeting to only those items that have been captured in the previously published agenda. What that means for us today is that any public comment regarding items that are included in the agenda will be taken into consideration by the board when that topic is addressed during the meeting. But any topics brought up during public comment are not that are not included in the publish agenda cannot by law be discussed at this meeting and so
013will not be addressed or receive a response during the meeting. In either case, depending on the nature of your topic or questions, a district employee or a board member might follow up on any comments that relate to district business. Please note that the board silence during public comments is neutral. It's neither a signal of agreement or disagreement with the speaker's remarks. Also, please note that comment should not make reference to any employee or representative of the district by name or by identifiable reference like title. If you're interested in making comments or complaints regarding an individual, you may use the complaint process available through the office of the superintendent. Finally, please remember that your words have impact and you, not the school district, are responsible for your words. We caution all speakers that it's possible that
014your statements could violate the rights of others under various laws, including laws protecting privacy and laws prohibiting defamation. If you're unsure of the legal effect of your remarks, you should seek independent legal advice. In any case, we ask that you help us model for our students what a respectful and inclusive community looks and sounds like. So, first, it's our tradition to ask if there's any association leaders who'd like to present comments. I want the red on. Thank you. There we go. Uh, good evening, school board directors, district staff, and community members. Uh, my name is Lauren Dandridge, and I have the honor of serving as the president of NSEA, the Northshore Education Association. NSEA members are the people working with Northshore students day in and day out. We represent the vast majority of district employees
015including not just teachers but also para educators, nurses, campus supervisors, school technology specialists, librarians, psychologists, occupational and physical therapists, school assistants, family engagement specialists, and more. Our work is at the core of everything our district does. As we all know, each school year brings its own unique set of challenges and opportunities, and the 2526 school year will be no different. We'll be navigating new district leadership here at the district office, within NSEA, and on the school board come November's elections. We have critical bond and levy votes this February. And this spring will bring the bargaining of new NSEA contracts. All of this is amidst a backdrop of chronic underfunding from the state and federal governments, coupled with the ongoing attacks on a public school system that supports diversity, equity, inclusion, and access for all of
016our students and staff. It's a lot. It can be overwhelming to think about how much we must contend with over the next 180 school days and beyond. I do not expect this year to be easy, but I also know that when we work together, we can do hard things. When we maintain focus and keep our core priorities centered in our decision-m, we can accomp accomplish incredible things as a community. And this is what we must do because our students deserve nothing less. Thank you. >> Thank you, Lauren. Any other association leaders here? I'm not seeing any. So, we'll move on to the public comment portion of the of today. You'll see up on the screen a timer of three minutes. So, we ask that you come up and um introduce yourself for the record and
017then present your comments. Thank you so much. Um we have a tradition of prioritizing student voice. Um but as it turns out, speaker number one is the student and so I don't have to rearrange the speaking order. So, um, speaker number one, if you can please come up and present your comment. Good evening and thank you members of the Northshore School Board and Superintendent. My name is Adrien Devidel and I'm the team captain of the both High School First Robotics Program uh, known as aerodynamics. Um, this program is a competition where students build and compete with a robot to meet a variety of challenges, but also work to better their communities by increasing STEM education, not only in the high school, but in the Northshore community as a whole. Last year was both's first year
018competing in first. As rookies, we were able to make it to the world championship in Houston, and that would not be possible without the support of the school board. We thank you for competing or we thank you for signing the endless stream of fieldtrip forms that allowed us to compete in the competitions in Eastern Washington and Houston, Texas. We thank you for providing us with the space and tools necessary to build a robot that competed at an international level. And we thank you for your patience when we still were well working out what needed us what we needed to do to succeed as a first year team. Your support allowed us to gain experience uh from teams around the world and gain crucial skills in industry, technology, communication, and leadership. Additionally, with the schoolboard support,
019we were able to go to Maywood Hills Elementary School and run an afterchool robotics program for the third and fourth graders there, involving them in first and robotics at a young age and getting them involved in first programs, which opens up opportunities for scholarships, internships, and leadership especially for young women in STEM. Uh your support gave us a chance to represent both and Northshore and the Northshore school district at competitions and in our community and we look forward to continuing to represent all that Northshore has to offer in the coming year. Thank you. >> Thank you Adrian and on behalf of the board um we do have a history of enjoying robotics competitions. So when you have information, please feel free to send it along either to Picky King or any of us and we
020will forward it and we'll attend as as our schedule allows. We really we find it exciting and like you said, the leadership is just exemplary. So great. Thank you so much. All right, moving on. Um speaker number two. Hello schoolboard. My name is Talia Rich and I am a proud Hispanic NSD parent, community member, NSD teacher, and NSEA certificated vice president. I know this isn't the first time you've heard me say this, but the situation remains that student-f facing staff are beyond the capacity we have to give. And as we enter into what I'm sure will be a very full and very busy year, I am hopeful we will continue to remain steadfast in our shared commitment to ensure that the students of Northshore and the boots on the ground receive the supports they need
021to survive and thrive. Hope you all enjoy the last few days of this very summery hot summer. Thank you, Talia. And that concludes our public comment. Thank you so much for coming. you're welcome to stay and, you know, watch the rest of the meeting. If you have other things to do on a summer night, that's great, too. Um, we it's it's all your call, but we're going to go ahead and proceed with the rest of the meeting. So, thank you. Um, which is the rest of the meeting. The next item on the agenda is the adoption of the consent agenda. Is there a motion to approve? >> So moved. Second. >> Any questions or discussion? >> I just I had a minor question and it's not dependent on anything, but I noticed that we've hired
022a new uh Chinese language instructor at Inglemore, and I thought we had cut that language. So, I was a little confused. >> That is uh in the weeds that I don't know yet. Um I can certainly look into it and get back to you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any other questions? All right. Seeing none, we'll go ahead and call for the vote. and the consent agenda passes. Thank you. Next up is um the first action item which is the approval for a purchase over a million dollars in with emerges. Do you have an introduction superintendent Irish? >> I do. For your approval this evening is a purchase order uh for over 1 million to emerg to provide 1:1 and some 2:1 behavior technicians and board certified behavior analysts um for special education services for
023multiple students at various locations. Services are required with the students individualized educational program. >> Thank you. Is there a motion to approve? >> So moved. Second. >> All right. Any questions? All right. Start of the year contract. All right. So, I'll go ahead and call for the vote. And it passes. Thank you. Next on the agenda is our next action item which is the approval for purchase again over a million dollars with the Edmond School District. Superintendent Irish >> for your approval this evening is purchase over for over 1 million to the Edmond School District is to provide special education services for multiple students at Edmond School District deaf and heart of hearing program. >> Thank you. Uh is there a motion to approve? >> So moved. >> Second. >> All right. Moved and seconded.
024Any questions? Uh just a comment for people watching that uh because the population of children who are deaf or heart of hearing and need specialized access to teachers and um specialized supports that are uh really comprehensive um and getting kids access to ASL, so American Sign Language um isn't something that we have enough kids to support that program. Um, so Edmmonds actually supports kids from all over the region, um, and houses that program there, um, which is why we pay them to do the good work that they do. >> Thank you, Vice President Sotek. Anything else? No. All right, going to call for the vote. And the item passes. Thank you. Next action item, another beginning of the school year item, approval of the interlocal cooperation agreement with the Edmond School District number 15 for
025special education services. Superintendent Irish. Yes, this is just add-on to what director soc uh that this interlocal agreement is a requirement for the purchase order just approved with the edund school district number 15 which allows the district to provide programs and services for deaf and heart of hearing students. Programs and services for visually impaired students will be added to the agreement and students currently attending the Edmond's vision program have services outlined in their individualized education plan. >> Thank you, Superintendent Irish. Is there a motion to approve? So moved. >> Second. All right. Any questions? >> You get to move the next one. You haven't done it. >> All right. Again, pretty standard. I'm not seeing any questions. I appreciate the teamwork among our colleagues. Um, I'm going to go ahead and call for the vote.
026Have two more opportunities. [Music] All right. And that motion is passed as well. Next action item is the 2025 through 2028 collection bargaining agreement between Northshore School District and the Western States Regional Council of Carpenters who represent our maintenance employees. Superintendent Irish. >> Yes. On June 27th uh 2025, the Northshore School District and the Western States Regional Council of Carpenters reached a tenative agreement on the renewal of the 2000 20252028 collective bargaining agreement. Attached is the executive summary outlining the ratified agreement changes and the tenative redline version of the collective bargaining agreement effective September 1st, 2025 through August 31st, 2028 for your review and approval. Thank you, Superintendent Irish. Is there a motion to approve? >> So moved. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> All right, it's been moved and seconded. Any questions?
027All right. Yeah. Thank you to everyone who's helped with the bargaining. Um, important to get these taken care of. We appreciate the teamwork with everyone and our great maintenance employees. I'm going to go ahead and call for the vote. And that action item passes as well. Thank you. And our last action item is action item number five, which is the 2025 2022 collective bargaining agreement between the Northshore School District and the Laborers Union local number 242, which represents our grounds employees. Superintendent Irish. >> Yes. So very similar. We on August 28th, 2025, the Northshore School District and the Laborers Union, local number 242 reached a tenative agreement on the renewal of the 2528 collective bargaining agreement. Attached is the executive summary outlining the ratified agreement changes and the tenative redline version of the collective bargaining
028agreement effective September 1st, 2025 through August 31st, 2028 for your review and approval. >> Thank you. Is there a motion to approve? >> So moved. Second. >> All right. It's been moved and seconded. Any discussion? >> Well, just since this is the third of the group, just want to say from our these are a group of employees that are not are forward- facing and we don't really think about, but their work is so important and they bring um so much value to our students between the grounds employees and the maintenance. Um, and then my personal favorite, the sludge truck driver, which is a truly disgusting job, but um we are so grateful for um all of their work and um are are appreciative again of everybody's work in bringing these together and keep the system
029moving forward. >> Thank you, Director Hayes. All right, any other questions or discussion? All right, seeing none, we'll call for the vote. All right. And that action item passes as well. Thank you. That wraps up the action items. So, we're going to move on to board reports and communications. Are there any new business items? All right. Well, I have a couple. So, um, on Thursday, we're having our board retreat. So, just a couple things around that. First of all, um, the board self- assessment survey results, right? we all got. We're having a new process working out, you know, not doing as much paper board meetings, but if those reports are long and you would prefer to have hard copies, please let Peggy know. We're we're going to do it. So, the default is that we
030don't have hard copies. Um, but that doesn't mean if we need them, we can't request, right? So, um, so think about that. Also I wanted to ask um if we need to think about food. There have been times I mean I will have to have food but the question is do we want to bring our own or do we want to do a potluck but we have we did a potluck once. We did a potluck once. We could but sometimes that's a lot of work. Sometimes it's just easier to bring our own things. So I could go either way. I just want to plan for food somehow. I have a very specific diet, so I don't want to make it complicated for folks, but I also don't want to discourage folks who want a potluck
031from having a potluck. >> But I'm I'm going to need to bring my own food. >> Okay. Okay. >> Yeah, we'll bring our own. Okay. If if maybe we'll chat, Director Tran, if I happen to bake something, maybe we'll make sure we have you covered. Okay. Just to make sure we have enough sustenance. Okay. All right. Great. Yeah. And so the um obviously we'll be discussing the survey results and that'll be it. And then so if you all are talking about general assembly, I don't need to talk about it. So but um with it being virtual, you know, the need to publish a meeting if more than if some of us are observing isn't really necessary because we can't interact with each other. Um but yes, if if we have information, we should be good.
032But those are my new business items. Okay. All right. Great. We get to hang out again on Thursday. So, next up, I know, right? We're gonna have a good time. Next up is um board member reports and we're going to start with director McCordney. >> Thank you, President Cast. Um it was a quick couple of weeks uh at least for me. Sorry. Um I attended uh the LED network on August 12th, which is the the zoom in and we had updates about the general assembly and so forth. Um then on August 14th I also attended the wall of honor ceremony which is always a a lovely exercise. Um there hasn't been a whole lot of interest a whole lot of things of interest going on in Stoomeish County lately. Um but there is a planning
033commission meeting um zoomin meeting tomorrow I believe that might have some some items of interest um which hopefully I'll be able to to zoom in there when it's of of interest. We'll see. Um, and then a reminder that we have one more board meeting uh and the large school caucus before general assembly. Uh, just remind everybody if you are going to zoom in to register um accordingly. Um, and just from the review of the um catalog, I forget the term we use, but um I I confer concur with the recommended actions by the WASDA board. So, if anyone has looked at those or have any, you know, issues or differences about any of the proposals, um, you touch base with me and maybe we can, um, discuss and if there's anything crucial or critical we
034can, um, talk about at the next board meeting, the last one before the general assembly. Um, and then also just a note that Peggy has started hearing back from some of our legislators about potential meetings with them this fall before they head back to session in January. Um, so she may be reaching out to spread the wealth of meetings with uh with our legislators. That's all I have. >> Great. Thank you. Um, Director Tran. >> All right. Board member reports. Um, let's see. Monday, August 11th was at the study session for that where we discussed the um annual operation. super excited about the clarity, coherence, and consistency that we'll find across the district and the administration. That'll help the stu that'll all trickle over to the students and benefit them. Um, Thursday, August 14th, wall
035of honor ceremony along with all of the people you see on the dis. Um, thank you to the organizers and congratulations to the inductees. Thank you for um that speech, Superintendent Irish, and representing the Northshore School District. And congratulations to Candace Deep who is a Inglemore High School grad who um was recognized for the scholarship for the community service and humanitarian um uh work that she does and very impressive resume. Um >> Thursday, August 21st had my meeting with Superintendent Irish and Vice President Sotac as well as the meeting later that evening with the citizens of Northshore. really thank you for the along with director Hayes here. Um thank you for the work that the community does really on um this committee or this group. It's a uh group that works on bonds and levies.
036Um Saturday, August 24th. Uh unfortunately I had planned to visit a couple schools for community serve day to help out but had a personal uh matter that rose. So, um, looking forward to hearing how that went from the rest of the board. Um, Monday, August 25th. So, today we had our study session on the bond and levy. This is the first out of three times that we're going to have it. So, the next two study sessions will be a continuation, just information for the public. And then um I guess I could also include on the WASDA front just in case folks missed it and I thought I wrote it down here. There are a couple other pre-Wazda meetings besides the large school district caucus. >> Yeah, I thought I wrote it down here. I'm sorry.
037Um yeah, there's actually four of them, too. So there's large >> schools. No, no, no. Yeah. >> Equity. And then there's school directors of color. And then there's the pre-plan. Uh >> the four large schools. Uh and it's not large schools, it's large school districts, it's equity, it's school directors of color and small school districts. >> Yes. >> So um and the equity and access caucus is Wednesday, September 10th at 5:00 p.m. It's virtual. And the um large school caucus is Thursday, September 11th, and it's also at 5:00 p.m. And also virtual. >> Yes. And then the school director of color caucus is Mon, it's September 8th, Monday at 5:00 p.m. And then there is a This was the one that I missed. Pre-learning for the general assembly is September 4th on Thursday at noon,
038just in case anyone else wants to attend those. So, the pre-learning since we're not interacting doesn't need to be advertised, but if three or more of us are attending any of the um caucuses, we should let Peggy King know so that she can keep track of where we're at. >> Okay. I plan to attend all of them, Peggy. >> Not the smallest school district one. No. >> Thank you, Director Tran. Director Hayes. >> Um, thank you. Well, I'll just um let Peggy know since we're doing that right now that I am attending the equity caucus and the large school district caucus meetings. Um, okay. So, um, I attended uh the Northshore Schools Foundation board meeting as the liaison from our board. um they continue their work and um thinking rethinking how they do their fundraising
039and um getting their word out in the community. So work to be done there. Um also attended the wall of honor ceremony. It's a 16th year that they've done it. So lovely to see all the people um because I got to work with her. Shout out to Karen Orsinger. It was lovely to see her up on the wall and then of course just thrilled that CP and Dorothy Johnson were finally added to our wall of honor given all the work they have done for our community. Um as director Han Tren stated I attended the citizens for Northshore meeting. Again we are attending as liaison from the board. We are there for information purposes only. um they are in the process of fundraising to support and run a campaign um in support of our bond and
040levy. Um so that's where they're at in the process. They do have to buy all new signs thanks to the new law that you have to put your address and who paid for it on >> both sides of a yard sign now. So, they've opted to buy new signs rather than the very expensive stickers. Um, and then I attended community serve day on Sunday. I scrubbed tables at Northshore Middle School. Got the gum off. Um, it is a truly amazing event. It's not it's just us in Lake Washington that do this every year. It's run through those two school districts. So we are so grateful to our community partners and the schools just look lovely when ready to welcome students. So we are grateful for all the work that is done there. And then finally
041I continue my meetings with board members from around the state. >> Thank you. And vice president SOAC. >> Okay. So, I also attended the study session about the annual operating plan and the wall of honor ceremony and was horribly impressed by this recent graduate who has done more with her life in such a short amount of time. Her resume makes mine look really short. Um, and uh had various meetings with the superintendent and community members. Um, and then for community serve day, fun fact, guys, if you don't sign up ahead of time and wait till the registration is closed. No, I I did this on purpose because they list schools that don't have enough volunteers >> and then you can go. So, I went to Shelton View. >> Oh, nice. And I helped the third
042grade team get prepped for the school year and had a really great conversations with the third grade teachers about what they want to do this year and sort of their concerns and you know how they are excited to maybe change some things. Um and they're they don't yet have um integrated highcap at that school. So, um they are really looking forward to maybe changing some of how that is, um organized for kids. Um they're they're they're similar to some of the other elementary schools. There's kids, different levels of kids aging into MTSS more. Um but anyway, it was really fun and I did not have to be outside which was amazing. Um and then the um study session and the new principal meet and greet which was also very fun. Thank you. And I'll just
043wrap it up. Um I had a family celebration out of state. I wasn't at the last board meeting. I did watch the videos on my flight home and thank you Vice President Sotac. You did a yman's job. It was excellent and I thought, "Oh, I can extend my vacation. Maybe you did a great job." But thank you. Um, thank you for that. Really seriously. Um, so my report's really short. I also was at the wall of honor celebration. Continue to be grateful for our community in so many ways. um had had um unfortunately an illness in my household that prevented me from um from attending uh community serve day yesterday. But again, grateful for our community who was um able to come out and support our students. So that is it for board member reports.
044Anything else? Oh yes, >> I forgot one thing. Because of the one of the sessions for the was the prewazda general assembly, I need to be dismissed for our next board meeting because it conflicts. >> Okay, thank you for that. No problem. All right.