001All right, good evening everyone. Welcome to the March 2nd, 2022 meeting of the South Kitsap School Board. I hope everyone is having a great evening and ready for a packed full agenda. Our first order of business is the Pledge of Allegiance. Brian, would you please lead us in the pledge this evening? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you very much and I'd like to just recognize at this time that, you know, the world is, the whole world doesn't have the same freedoms that we do and so I'm just thankful for for what we have here and I'd like to just say a word to my Ukrainian friends. Our thoughts
002are with you so thank you. First order of business, next order of business is to adopt the agenda. Discussions on the agenda. Yeah, I've got comments. All right, go ahead Jeff. So I think the agenda again is much too long to give adequate consideration to all the items. What is the purpose of item 3.04 on the agenda? The last slide says we're to discuss and decide, is that correct? The budget, budget planning? Yep. I think it's, I don't know if there's decisions today. I think there's, I think it's informational. I think we have a little bit more time to make a decision from what I saw in the materials but I could be wrong. Tim or Jennifer? Yeah, I would just say we're in the middle of beginnings, beginnings moving to middle of budget planning
003and want to include the board in that process so we're just asking for input not decisions but as we start to make some decisions that pertain to next year's budget it would be nice to have some board input on that. Okay. Okay, I guess I'll let that one go then since you're looking for stuff. I recommend we move 11.01 to a future meeting. I thought we all agreed that all directors were to submit their comments and only two did so I think we ought to wait until every director has sent in their comments. I think the directors have had two weeks to send in their comments. I think we should proceed. We've been dragging this on long enough. Correct and if we didn't have comments that's why we didn't send them in. Well that's fine
004but we're not going to sit here and take pot shots at the people that did send the comments. If you didn't want to send your comments in then you don't have a right to sit there and shoot holes at everybody else's because it's unfair for me not to know what you're said and then you know what I said so that's not very fair. Okay. Just to be clear, just Jeff before you go on, just to be clear all of the comments that were sent in were posted so you've seen all the comments that were made to change that. Correct and there's no pot shots being done to anybody. 11.02 I recommend that one be moved to a future meeting. It was I was sent a revised sheet very late and I'm not sure I have
005all the documents for it. Obviously it's months late getting here so another two weeks won't be won't take time. I would concur with postponing that. I think we need a little more time to look at it. Tim what does that do anything for that for ability to operate and if we were to postpone that? I do everyone has all the information. What was sent was just some added information kind of an FYI. I think the problem I see is that we have a number of employees in that union group who have had any kind of increase to wages put off for months now and if we if we wait another meeting then that will be put off another month beyond that and these are hard-working people who have given quite a bit of blood sweat
006and tears to support this district so I guess I would be in favor of pursuing that tonight just in support of that group of people in our district. Yeah and anyway I've I've read through all the summary materials and the entire fact as well so I'm ready to discuss it this evening. Do we lose Brian? Where's he at there? We did and I'm trying to figure out where he went. He may have had a computer issue without a screen. Okay Kate what do you feel about that item the contract? I was able to go through it when I got home from work and feel comfortable discussing it. Yeah I think we can proceed with it tonight. Okay. Okay and then the last thing I do have a lot of questions on both the consent items
007so just let you know in advance. Okay and these are questions for clarification is that correct? Some of our clarification the one on 8.06 yeah I've got some questions. Okay well I'll ask you and the rest of the board to limit your questions to clarifications on those items. Thank you. Okay so do we need to I guess should we do need to vote on removing any of these? I don't I haven't heard. Well if if if director Daley was making a motion to delete something from the agenda then we okay move on that motion. Okay so let's move on let's just go. All right well let's let's go to the next item then thank you very much. The next one is staff recognition or staff and student recognition. So Tim could you get that off
008for us please? Yes thank you. We will bring Amy to the screen to recognize and celebrate some retirement. So Amy over to you. Thank you. I have a few retirements to honor this evening. Val Kim will is our first one and she's retiring from her position as Native American Education Liaison and Val's worked for 22 years as paraeducator here in South Kitsap. So best wishes to you Val. The next one is Joan McCarthy and Joan's retiring from Manchester. She's been in South Kitsap for 23 years. All the best to you Joan. The next one is Michelle McLean and she's retiring from her position as dispatcher router with transportation department and Michelle has been in South Kitsap for 29 years. The next one is Kimberly Pickering. She's retiring from the transportation department too and she's been
009a bus driver in South Kitsap for 13 years. Thank you Kimberly. This is Naomi Anderson. She's retiring from Discovery and she's been in South Kitsap for more than 25 years. This is Carol DeCrona. She's retiring from her position at East Port Orchard and she's been in South Kitsap for 28 years. Thank you Carol. And the last one this evening is Cynthia Edgecombe or Cindy and she's retiring from her position at East Port Orchard and she has more than 19 years in education. Thank you for your dedication. That's it for our retirees. And then next step we have Nibs. So just give me one second to pull those up. We have a great group of Nibs to recognize this evening. So the first one is Amanda Dawn and she was nominated by Bridget Dihoff. Amanda is
010an incredibly hard worker with a servant heart. Regardless of the task or project she's working on, she's always so fast and courteous and ready to assist us with skyward related questions. For troubleshooting, outages, or training in data mining and reports, Amanda is always a friendly resource. Amanda's skills and expertise in her field are noticed and very appreciated. Next one, this is Roberto Sabeno. He's a student at South Kitsap High School. Robert, I think I said Roberto, sorry about that. Robert is a student who goes above and beyond to be kind and welcoming to other students. He took the time on the first day of new semester to show a new student where their classrooms were located throughout the building. He shows genuine concern for his fellow classmates and teachers and his kindness is truly appreciated.
011And Robert was nominated by Hilary Allen. Next one is Deborah Helen from Explorer Academy and Deborah was nominated by Jessica Fraley. Deborah's an amazing teacher and co-worker. I've loved being her pair this year and having her help me as well as encourage me to go back to school to finish my own teaching degree. Thank you Deborah. The next one is Carrie Burns and she was nominated by Paula Ackert-Vigler. Carrie's an amazing team member. Even on the most trying days, she's the kindest person in the room. Carrie's always pulling the team together with her positive, calm demeanor. She cares deeply for the success of students she works with and it shows. She's one of the most supportive para-educators I've ever worked with. Every day that you work with Carrie is guaranteed to be a bright shining
012spot. The next one is Rhonda Hempler and this is a long one because Rhonda was actually nominated from two different people. She had a nomination from Earl Smith in the safety and security department and also from Deanna Bush at Marcus Whitman. So Rhonda Hempler is assigned full-time at Marcus. Ms. Hempler usually begins her day standing outside the student drop-off where she positively greets students. What an awesome way for students to begin their day. Regardless of if it's raining, buckets, or freezing cold, Ms. Hempler is standing there directing traffic to ensure kids are safe each and every day. There are more than 600 students enrolled at Marcus and she amazingly seems to know each student by name. Throughout the school day, she intentionally interacts with students by asking them random questions such as, do they prefer
013the beach or the mountains, or maybe the question of the day is red or black licorice. She then posts the final results outside her office for all to see. Some may not recognize this simple act every day she connects with her students. That's great Rhonda. And the next one from Earl is Rhonda is a force for good at Marcus. She spearheaded improvements at our drop-off parking lot that makes student and drop-off organized quick and positive experience. Every family is greeted with a cheerful welcome and a friendly smile when they call them to drop off their child. She goes out of her way to get to know pets who come in to drop off too and ensures they get a friendly hello with head pats as needed. She clearly enjoys quick chats with kids and their
014families. This is just one example the initiatives Rhonda's introduced to improve Marcus. The school is a happier and safer place to be because of the myriad of ways Rhonda goes out of her way to make sure every person in our school knows that they matter and that they're happy and that we are happy that they are here. Oh wow way to go Rhonda. The next one is Kyle Smith and Kyle is nominated by Carol Chang. Kyle Smith does the work of 10 people. He's quick to respond to work orders and follows up to make sure things are working. With the movement to one-to-one at secondary level he's become an expert at Chromebook screen repair and many other common issues that come with traveling devices. Even with the huge workload he still manages to keep friendly
015and positive attitude. We're very lucky to have him on our team. Good job Kyle. The next one this is a team award we have Tamela McDonald, Shanna Sprague, LaDonna Hendrickson, David Rodriguez all from Sydney Glenn and they were nominated by Callie Jones. During this year the elementary schools with COVID protocol and MOUs had to change how school pickups were done. Sydney Glenn has done and continues to do an exemplary job of making this easy and as quick as possible for family. Tamela is the first person you see on after school pickups when you drive up. She knows every car and every family as they go to pick up and often has called for each student way before you even know. She always is smiling and keeps the line moving. She also treats the dogs in
016line as they come to pick up their humans. LaDonna keeps track of all the students coming out of the building and directs them from their sorry directs them to their cars helping the kids get to their cars shutting the doors and make sure the adults crossing in the parking lot don't get hit along the way. Shanna keeps track of students coming out of the building moving cars along and keeping the flow of traffic going. Shanna also goes out and gets students who didn't hear their name being called so they don't come as quickly. David since the MOU has changed has students are no longer in the classroom he's called out and makes sure that kids get picked up in the cafeteria and gym as they wait for their names to be called. He keeps things
017moving in the line. So this sounds like a tremendous team effort to help in the afternoon pick up of students so thank you for everyone at student plan. Next up is Kimberly Sisson at Marcus and she was nominated by Haley Mischko and Kimberly was nominated for doing so much more than just a great job in her role. She's worked hours in the COVID room testing athletes and supporting the health room. Students love her and she is so fun to work with. Thank you Kim. Here's another team award we have Cheryl Richardson, Kimberly Sargent and Eva Head all from John Sedwick and they are nominated by Destine Kimmel. Cheryl Richardson goes the extra mile to encourage students on many occasions she's gone out of her way to recognize students positive and behavior choices. Kim Sargent's cheerful
018demeanor and encouraging words help build community within our classroom. She has a gift for inspiring our most reluctant learners to participate in classroom lessons. Eva Head works hard to make sure her students have the support they need to be successful. I appreciate that she's a strong advocate for students and always is willing to help out where needed. Way to go John Sedwick team. Another team award we have Susan Littleton, Deanna Dunlap, Danelle McCready and Alyssa Gutierrez all from Hidden Creek and they were nominated by their principal Brenda Ward. We would like to recognize our playground supervision team here at Hidden Creek. During the pandemic they've been working hard to support students ensuring they have a safe and fun experience at recess while following the COVID guidelines. From the beginning they've been creative problem solvers in
019order to keep students active and organized. They operate the playground in a caring and supportive manner. When students need assistance they're great listeners. They put tremendous effort into deescalating situations that arise during competitive games. Students know they can rely on the team and they are having a rough day. Thank you for all you do for our Hawks. We appreciate you and everything you've done to support Hidden Creek. Well done ladies. And the last one this is Brandy Chermak at John Sedwick and Brandy was nominated by Stacy Billett. Brandy has been a rock star when tasked with duties of COVID support specialist at John Sedwick. She's gracefully handled the challenging job of supporting students academic success while following COVID protocols to ensure student and staff well-being. I cannot imagine getting through the struggles of this past
020school year without her help. She's comforted students during fearful times of the pandemic and also connected with families with resources needed to get students back to school as soon as possible. Brandy not only puts in countless hours in her COVID role she also devotes her spare time to support students and faculty as PTSA president. Thank you Brandy. Well that was a really great group of NIBs so thank you all the nominators and well done all the winners. We appreciate you. Awesome well done NIBs and congrats retirees as well well well deserved. By the way Brian's back I know he had a power he lost power briefly but he's got those electrons working again so welcome back Brian. All right next Tim back over to you for superintendent comments. Well I want to add a little
021recognition and I can't remember honestly if we recognize these or when this happened but we put it out in the Fast Five last week but we had some students who did some amazing things recently. Senior Kayden Cole state champion in the 4a 50 yard adaptive backstroke so what a great accomplishment there. We had two wrestling state champions Stone Hartford and Mitchell Niner won the four wrestling titles as well as the team took third in state and then we had some great all-state honors for wind ensemble and concert band students so I'm just going to read what we put in the Fast Five here. We had one student was selected for the all-state wind ensemble and two students selected for the all-state concert band at the all-state band performance and these congratulations go to senior trumpet
022player Daniel Johnson senior tuba player David Young and junior euphonium player Michaela Tipton so we want to make sure our band students got recognized as well so really awesome to see our students excelling out there in the state level we're really proud of those students. So I'll continue on with superintendent comments I just want to mention we've got about 66 people who are observing the meeting tonight just so that we are aware so really appreciate that those people are here. I know one of our attendees is having difficulty getting in and he wants to talk about some education things at public comment so I'm going to hold off on one piece of this until I know that at least we've given a little more shot to get him in I don't know what the trouble
023is but I want to talk about a couple of things one is we've got a thought exchange out there right now you can get that link on the district website and the the purpose of that thought exchange is to get some comments from our community and our district staff around facilities so the question is what are some important areas or topics to consider as we plan for the maintenance and improvement of South Kitsap School District facilities in the years to come and so we really that that's still open we still want to encourage people to not only comment but to rate the comments which is the with the beauties of thought exchange you can rate the comments of other people and I hope that will give our board as well as our long-range facility planning
024committee some opportunities to look and see what the the community is saying as we start to narrow down some focus on how we want to proceed in that area we do have an audit entrance conference so our annual audit from the state starts with an audit entrance conference and that will be held March 9th at 2 30 p.m on zoom so I want to make our board members aware of that our board members are welcome to attend that I'll put that in the Friday report this week as well we will put out a quorum notice on that so if we have more than two board members show up that's okay but that again March 9th at 2 30 p.m on zoom I also want to recognize that last Friday afternoon and I did send this
025in the Friday report we did have a rally of some Kitsap community members I believe it was a Kitsap wide participation there were about 25 people who went to North Kitsap, Central Kitsap, and South Kitsap and I would say a very well respected rally I guess there wasn't a whole lot of disruption they did invite me to come out and speak but I was in the middle of a couple meetings and couldn't do that but as always we appreciate community voice and want to hear what people are thinking and I just want to say I appreciate the fact of how respectful the whole thing went and so we will continue to reach out and listen as we go so those are the comments that I had I want before we get into the mask mandate
026and we're going to talk about that kind of in a separate section but I want to have Tom and Lisa come to the screen and share some first semester secondary grading information so our middle and high schools so Tom and Lisa I will pass it on to you to share that information all right thanks Tim good evening board members and student reps yeah so we are going to talk briefly on the secondary grades one thing to just kind of keep you know in mind is that grades are one data point right and we look at multiple data points you've seen our benchmark assessment data we have our smarter balanced assessment data and classroom grades is one piece of data and so this is a for the for the school board this is a global and
027cumulative data snapshot and so this is kind of thinking of you know what's the difference between grades and say the smarter balanced is like our grade checks whether it's midterm or at the semester right those are kind of like the check-ins and the physicals that you get at the doctor's office whereas the smarter balance oftentimes is like the autopsy and that's a little bit worse worse news right but they're just completely different data points for different reasons and different purposes and so I think that's really important to keep in mind so again this is going to be global data so it is going to be kind of the cumulative data look at the secondary grades but knowing that the buildings you know and the building teams really dig into this data and disaggregate it look
028at it for program performance look at it for grade levels and content areas and subgroups of students and that kind of thing but wanted to give you a global snapshot so on the first slide here we have our alternative learning experiences and so we've got discovery high school and then explorer our home school partner school and so you're going to see different ways that the data is viewed again on that cumulative basis and so with discovery and explorer we're looking at the credits earned and those numbers that you see at the top of the bars those are the number of students that earned that credit total through the first semester excuse me not through the first semester because this is the other caveat is that explorer and discovery are on different grading periods than the
029high school and the middle school so the high schools the middle schools are on semesters and discovery and explorer they're on trimesters so this is kind of old news for the discovery and explorer staff because these grades came out or these scores came out in december so they're actually approaching the end of their second grading period which is going to be really interesting to compare this data with the data that comes up here in a couple of weeks in march so what you see here is you know a way of looking at how successful were students in earning that graduation credit through the first grading period again that ended in december so those students about 23 percent of the students at discovery that have you know make up those red bars of either one credit
030earned or less and then on the discovery side again one credit or less around 10 percent of those students within alternative learning you have to rightly put together an intervention plan for those students who are not showing progress at the grading periods and it's on a month-by-month basis so it's even well before the december grading period ends and so those students have what's called a prep a progress intervention plan and predominantly it's because of attendance we know that covid has had a huge impact on attendance is really skewed the attendance data district-wide and obviously it has impacted in the alternative learning experience schools that we have at self-kits up as well so noting that about two-thirds well right at two-thirds of the students were in the green for earning 1.75 or more credits at discovery
031and then a little over 80 percent of the students at explorer grades nine twelve earned 1.75 or more credits so those are good things to look at and then the things that went in a couple of weeks when the second grading period is ending is going to be very intentional focus on sort of those students that were in the yellow and the red for the credits earned during the first grading period did those prips really get them attending more participating more and and most importantly earning more credits by the end of that second grading period so that'll be a a big comparison point here in a couple of weeks the next slide you have the high school and when i say cumulative right this is super big picture of just a raw score of of
032how many letter grades distributed across the grade levels and so a couple of things that the high school is really paying attention to this is again right the end of the semester which happened a couple of weeks ago in comparison to the midterm grades they saw a lot of improvement by the end of the semester so they're celebrating that there's obviously a much higher ratio of a's to f's 89 percent of the letter grades that were earned were for passing credit so they those are credit earning scores they the freshman failure rates though are a concern and so they're looking at how to build out in that freshman success program and those classes that all the freshmen take at the high school you know how can we build in different levels of intervention and and
033readiness from eighth grade to ninth grade and building a better transition for those eighth graders as middle schoolers coming into high school huge celebration through covid through everything the senior class did a really really good job with 108 total f's it sounds bad to say a really good job on a number of f's but that is the the the lowest in in a number of years for the first semester for 12th graders and so that is a positive point moving forward and obviously you know seniors need that credit to graduate and so those 108 f's are going to engage a lot of work in making sure that students are graduation ready in june and then the last slide speaks to the middle schools and so the middle schools right before the pandemic hit the middle
034schools did a lot of work to transition away from letter grades into a more pure form of standards-based grading and so while it may well be frustrating for parents to read the the score report right because it's not even really a grade report they're reading students ones twos threes and fours across the different standards in those courses it does give a much more granular look at their performance in the classroom and so a couple of the things that the middle schools are looking at with this data how can we and we decided meeting today as a matter of fact of how can we get our homeroom data dashboard to display the standards based grading scores both at the at the progress check time and at the semester so that those teams can be more responsive
035at looking at and again helping the the teacher teams right to drill into which standards did the student struggle at the most and be able to target that support i think the other part you know always is how do these scores relate to the smarter balance assessment right and and grades and again it's different purposes because we're looking here again more at the progress checks and thinking of it as kind of like that that physical right and versus the autopsy and so building that out and and getting again just getting more granular and being able to display this data in our homeroom dashboard will be a big help so we're working with those folks who do that homeroom data dashboard so they can create some displays for us lisa do you have any comments commentary
036i think you're really complete but the only thing i would add is that for parents at the middle school level we specifically selected indicators that could report all years so parents will be able to see growth so we know students had a hard time coming back after the pandemic and in science they plan and investigate different experiences in the science classroom and so if a student was a one or a two this semester parents will be able to see by the end of the year if students have grown in that area by the end of the semester and that's true in all content areas math is is a little bit unique in that there's some isolated skills but problem solving and communication are also reported all year so it's a nice way for parents to
037see that and the fact that work habits are separated like they are at the elementary they have a much better sense about if it's about the the learner habits versus academic understanding of content so i'm really proud of our teachers and all the hard work they've done to transition to this model it is a much more accurate read on what students understand versus effort and achievement being blended into a letter grade yeah now my final point would just be that the as the middle schools looked at you know the comparison across the three schools while there's some slight differences in the you know the bar totals the relative relationship between the scores is pretty similar across the middle schools and so you know we don't see that there's an outlier or a problem with the
038assessment of student progress and so then it's just about again drilling into that data and always intervening to increase that student success um mr edwards i have a quick question um so is this your is this the first year that the the numbers have been implemented is that what you said no lisa what year was it first implemented was it 20 1920 or four i think this is your four oh wow okay um because i was just wondering um do you and i don't know if you can have an opinion on this but um do you think that it's kind of impacted how students like switch over at the high school to letter grades do you think that that's um had an impact just because when i was in middle school i had letter grades
039and i felt like it kind of like prepared me a little bit um but do you think that that you've noticed that or if any well yeah i can't speak to uh you know not having much experience in south kitsap i can speak for my former um experience in another district you know where um the standards-based grading and that prog you know the way of looking at how you are doing for example jesse right in your classes um you should be getting that feedback in one two threes and fours and then that translates to a letter grade for your gpa which you rightly need right for uh college and all those other things um so in a way it's you know you're putting a letter grade on top of the ones twos threes and fours
040um when you get into those credit bearing courses and seventh graders in algebra and eighth graders in geometry are living that same life in middle school because those are credit bearing courses and so um i do think though that you know uh here i'll offer my opinion since you're you're teasing me with trying to get me to uh get one out there if you know in a perfect world if we could live in a one two three world uh it definitely helps with the not yet philosophy right where um you're not yet there uh you're at a two versus there's been a lot of baggage applied to letter grades right because there's so much history and so much again baggage of what does a c mean what does it you know c is average oh
041i'm average no you're not yet right um so i think in some ways there is that mind meld of the of the you know what is a one two three four versus an abcd so now i appreciate that question i think it's it's again i think um that's what the high school is pointing out too is a little bit more focus on that transition from eighth grade to ninth grade and a little bit more readiness for what does that all mean and the differences and how that's reported is really important thank you thank you so thank you tom and lisa for sharing that with us i do want to leave some some time for questions though just on this specific data so jeff go ahead yeah can we go back to uh slide number three
042so what does this tell us so you know if i'm a parent what does this tell me all my questions are related to being a parent i understand as as an educator and obviously we all do the nuances of testing and all this other stuff but what does this tell our parent well i think it's important to know that grade distribution across the grade levels and to know um as a parent you know if if i have an eighth grader for example that's going to be transitioning into high school next year i think that's one sort of conversation point to be having with my student or students um i think the other part though around again the the credit bearing reality of high school courses and knowing where those percentages lie and knowing you know
043where do i need to how do what questions i need to be asking my student around their progress is super important the the grade report and the communication home from the teacher is really a lot more informative than you know this slide for sure but i wanted again to give you that global look at what the grades look like a semester at the high school jeff i would add too i hope a parent would look at this and and that would help build confidence in what we're doing at our high school it certainly indicates students are succeeding but but it's a global picture to what level they're succeeding we have we have to dig deeper but i think i hope that would be one thing a parent would look at and take from this data
044okay so my second question is and then so where is the correlation between the grade and let's take for example smarter balance the state spends a tremendous amount of time effort money on smarter balance testing and they just posted the results about two weeks ago so we can minimize how important those scores are in the whole child but the bottom line is is people are going to look at those scores as i look at the scores i don't understand how we could be doing so well in our classes and not so good on our smarter balance tests so how do you correlate between these two's i don't want to take mr winter's thunder here when we get to testing here but uh where where is the correlation between these two can i take this one
045tom so jeff i think the most important thing to start with is that state testing is a snapshot on a day and so we have to be really careful it's important and it's important at a system level to like check how we're doing as a system but it is not appropriate to use it for a student's outcomes and their trajectory we would always triangulate data and classroom grades do more than that they include more than three data points we would want to make sure we have enough evidence to feel confident saying a student is at a level a a b a c a d and f their children they're learning they're growing as adults when we make mistakes and we go golfing it's not like we don't get to go have another try right so
046grades are reflective of a student's progress over time where they have had multiple attempts at the most important standards they'll write three or four argumentative essays in a year that we have evidence on whereas smarter balance if it's chosen that year to be argumentative it might have been a different genre we would know how those kids did but because it's adaptive not all kids have the exact same test items and so we just have to be really careful not to make standard-based decisions around individual students on state level assessments do we want there to be better alignment yes we want kids to be more successful on the the state assessment but we know for their success and their pathway they need to be successful in their courses they need to be growing academically to take
047more rigorous courses and then identify pathways that are a great fit for them for their future where their academic knowledge has not closed doors if we're not teaching them the right standards then opportunities might be taken away so it's really important and our staff work really hard to make sure they're teaching to those most important concepts grades are also separating sometimes content areas that are blended in state testing so the ela assessment is reading and writing sometimes kids if it was scored separately would be proficient in reading but not writing but it's a combined score and in our standards reference report card at the middle school we're able to score them separately so parents can see that so there's not a correlation we do have a very strong correlation between our star assessments we give
048and the sba that's a 97 reliability and validity so we use the star assessments throughout the year as our best measure of how we believe kids will perform on the sba and then we're constantly looking for ways to improve our core instruction and intervention for kids who are not yet there so that they can be more successful so that is actually a greater more reliable measure for us our star assessments than grades for predictability on that assessment so when when will we be showing that to parents so parents parents get that when we do conferences they see they also get to see we see grades as parents every day live in action so parents know if their kids have f d c's b's and a's every day which is a great element of skyward and
049then typically score reports go out for the star assessments and the sba score reports will eventually be going out too those should be ready any day from the state okay can we go to slide four please okay so this somewhat resembles a bell curve so what does this what does this tell a parent so the green the green bars right which are consistently the by far the tallest bar that that is proficient the blue bar is you've gone above and beyond proficiency right your level four kind of distinguished if we're thinking about in the evaluation realm so it does show that the majority of our students on their on their standards and by standard and again as lisa said progress over time right the majority of our students at the middle schools are at proficiency
050or better on those priority standards throughout the semester there's also a good number of students though in that yellow right the not yet i think the the the thing is we always want to grow the green we talk about right and we've said that before and we want to reduce the yellow and the red and so there's a good amount of space within the yellow about that not yet of really moving that into the green and which which which school which schools do we have that have our high cap our sore kids or those type of things they're at all three middle schools okay all right and then i guess my uh let's see here so two more questions uh so while i hear what you're saying as far as standardized testing and i'm a
051teacher so i i agree with you uh there is uh there's a pretty good difference between what these scores show and what the smarter balance scores that came out show and there are other districts that showed considerable improvement improvement despite two years of covid so all i'm saying is that while i understand that we have reasons there is data out there now for parents to look at and uh some schools have done and some districts have done better uh than possibly we have so what now and where are we going from here now now that you showed us this what does this mean and what's going to happen so let me let me start with that and i'll let lisa or tom answer the question i i think your comment jeff you and i talked
052about this the other day of the 15 to 20 districts that i pulled out of what i would say are high performing districts we talk about the curve every district in ela math and science had the same growth flow same or or growth or decrease so in ela as an example the average in the state was a nine percent decrease of those 15 to 20 districts that we looked at every single one of them went down a certain amount of percentage close to that nine percent so there may have been some districts but but that that it exceeded what they did in 1920 or excuse me 1819 but as we talked about the other day the majority did exactly what we did now that doesn't mean that's good enough it just means that we are
053now out of the covid world and we're into a full year of school so so our spring score should reflect that and and i think to your question what's next um the next is we we would expect to see growth from our students and expect to see growth from our scores and and that includes both the the grade data we're showing here as well as test score data star data any kind of assessment we're doing so with that lisa and tom i'll open it up for you to add anything there i don't i really don't have much to add other than i mean the math drop statewide was even more precipitous i think it was i don't know different things but either 17 or 20 percent 19 percent uh but uh i would say the
054what now part is is or what you know what now is what's been going and and what what we've been talking about um since august and is the the continual growth of the system and in some ways the rebirth of the system right and coming back from covid but also uh doing some some things that we maybe haven't done before or doing them differently and so we are building out that system and and definitely take that challenge dr daily for sure so how will you show this improvement how how will we see that we're succeeding for our students how can parents see that what we're implementing and what we're doing is working they would see an increase in their kiddos test scores that when we are monitoring progress with them throughout the year even if
055their students started below grade level that they are seeing that they are making growth and hopefully accelerated growth but i think we all recognize that the first half of the year has really been focusing not just on academics but the social emotional needs of our kids and learning how to be learners again and it's been exciting to celebrate with staff our first semester came to an end and you can already feel a difference in second semester i hope kai and jesse are feeling that too there's just a a different level of engagement i feel like kids are back right like they're finding their way back into being a learner and this is where the i mean january and february are just golden months for academic growth and our january was really impacted in our area
056with absences and so getting kiddos back to school regularly and and really focusing on essential learning that spirals throughout the years i mean that's the beauty of of most courses other than math is that we're working on similar skills with higher level text and so kids are going to begin to show that growth they might not get to read about as many topics because we weren't in person for on those last two years but their skill level with any text that they access will still continue to be able to grow and we should see growth in those test areas on our local assessments okay well thank you i just uh the only other comment i have is that i'm hoping we're looking at a sense of urgency as everybody has been in this mode but
057all of a sudden normally people after we come out of this they want to see things happening quickly and rapidly and i expect once you know the masks come off and all this other stuff that everybody's going to want to know uh as we head towards the end of the year are we going and getting things done and so i'm hoping that the sense of urgency exists thank you thank you tom and lisa appreciate the leading this discussion it's important that we are having conversations about the success of our students in all of our schools i want to add two more things in my comments before we get to the mask mandate um one we had february was cte appreciation month and i had the opportunity today to work with some students at the high
058school be kind of a a judge if you will on as they practice their uh state competition um projects and presentations that they will do this week in belview and that was what an awesome opportunity jesse was one of those that i got a chance to listen to and learn from so that was great always inspiring to be at the high school and then yesterday i read across america week and so i got to be at burley and read um read a couple stories to some students so i always say if if if i'm getting my my energy out of the schools and getting an opportunity to participate with students it makes for a pretty good week so it's been a pretty good week so far so with that that concludes the superintendent comment portion
059heppe do you want me to go into the mask mandate or um do we have anything else before we get there um you know i would just like to say um yeah i'm really looking forward to kind of seeing um seeing our focus hopefully as a board uh you know shift a little more to the to the learning loss as well for the rest this year and hopefully as we return to normal um i think hopefully the kids can be resilient about and bounce back so i'm confident in our teachers and our and our students so that's that's it but then yeah over to masks so the big question right now is masks and as we saw a couple weeks ago the governor came out and said march 21st was going to be the day
060that masks will be removed indoor facilities including schools and then cdc last week came out and said that they were endorsing no more masks and so the governor came out and now said it's march 12th so that's a week from this friday so that comes up quickly the one thing we don't have yet is guidance from department of health or lni and according to a a i'll call it a press release today from department of health they won't have that information to us until next week which is unfortunate because it gives us very little time to try to maneuver if there's any substantial changes to their guidance but what we need to talk about tonight is and and the question has come up a number of times and our answer has been after the board
061meeting tonight where i really believe you as a board have a right to weigh in on where we go as a district but we want to be able to get some communication out tomorrow to our district staff and to our students and community of what march really march 12th is a saturday but march 14th of monday will look like in our school so a couple of things that i think again we just need to be paying attention to is we we the governor has said the mandate will end we have followed the guidance of the cdc and the department of health and the governor consistently throughout the last two years i know that in in all of our decision making it's been a 50 50 proposition it seems like we've got one side is is
062approving the decision and the other is not and and probably with the change in the mandate we may flip who approves and who doesn't and we understand that and i think one of the things we're trying to to be is very sensitive to all the concerns of staff students parents community as we move forward but again wanting to to open the floor for some discussion amongst the board so we can come out of the meeting tonight with a direction to communicate to the south kidsap community of what march 14th will look like in our schools so with that i'll just open the floor well since i'm always the medical person who steps up um i think we again follow the mandates and if the mask mandate is over midnight on the 12th then it's over
063but i think what's really important is we need to respect those who decide to continue to wear their masks whether it's staff parents or students and those who don't want same thing i just think we've got to remember that there are people out there that are going to have again difference of opinions and we need to be respectful of what they want to do um i am concerned that kids or staff that want to wear their masks might feel uncomfortable and i really hope that we can let everyone know that it's their choice and that they they need to do what makes them feel the most comfortable and if they're more comfortable they're going to do a better job whether they're a student or a staff member just go ahead okay so i support the
064mask choice everyone should have a choice of what they want to do and there shouldn't be any retribution either way i have additional questions though that i'm wondering about that people have sent in so come the 14th what are we going to do are we going to still sanitize tables classrooms are we going to use hand sanitizer are we going to continue our spacing are we going to get to eat together in the lunchroom are we going to play together on the playgrounds and then what about our parents volunteers and visitors we start going back into the schools as far as i'm concerned than the mass mandate that means that we could certainly continue those things but i don't see that they're mandatory depending on of course what the health department says obviously the president
065and congress last night weren't too concerned about masks so i'm curious why it's going to take another week to to get the mass off but at the same point maybe it's taking a little time to address these other items besides masks so my concern is you know what protocols are we going to continue and you know or are we going to do the same thing that's a choice of the teacher that's the choice of the school those type of things so that's my thoughts thank you let's see for me quickly yeah i absolutely support continuing to follow the the regulations from the state so that means you know mass optional come the 14th back in school and i think also i think the buses one was dropped too may correct me if i'm wrong as
066well but but that that we support folks that you know want to continue to wear them and i don't see any reason for us to put anything in place you know in addition to what the the state and the the health department has to has to say so i'm continuing to follow those regs as they apply to us brian can you hear me good i wasn't wasn't sure i'm now now on my phone and i haven't zoomed on my phone very much i apologize for the interruption of me participating at the beginning i agree really with what all three of you have said i can't disagree i talked to a parent today who was really questioning why we were still in mass when cdc has said you know and we've said all along we're following
067what cdc health department state etc said and i really got his point it was a good respectful conversation things we didn't necessarily agree on everything but it was but but but i really really understood where he and other people are coming from on this because we've followed cdc we followed health department state guidelines and all and all that now the cdc says we don't need to um that doesn't mean that i don't believe we need to follow the mandate i know and i'm very aware of of some of the the financial um penalties and whatnot that the state and lni and and all that i won't go into great lengths with that that would have a huge negative impact financial impact on us or any other district so it's not it's not about waiting a
068couple of weeks um it's it's that idea that we we as washington have um you know have on our basis of masking and the importance of that followed cdc well now it's changing and stuff so it's it's we're my comment is that we're kind of in a rock and hard spot that said though i i very much believe we need to um you know follow through follow the mandate and all that to um to jeff's comments um you know as far as some of the other things that we do those need to be answered and i know that people are working on that i think the the cleaning part of that the and all that i don't think we should change that anytime soon and it doesn't hurt to be you know overly cautious and
069continue to clean and then to find out that okay we don't need to be and then we can back off on it so anyway those are my comments well i welcome the departure of the mask mandate i didn't know it was as as important as some people thought my concern is how we implement that uh on on a lower level if district-wide and statewide they're not mandatory what about the teacher who feels uncomfortable in a classroom of unmasked children uh how do we address that and then as uh as uh director daly mentioned uh what about volunteers can parents volunteering can they come into the classroom now are we are we requiring vaccination for them to come into the classroom there's still a vaccine issue there too so i i can see where we need
070some time to to flesh out the policy rather than just have everybody throw off the mask i did see an interesting video i think it was in israel when they when they told the elementary school kids they no longer needed to wear masks of a pandemonium broke out in the classroom they ripped them off they ceremonies they threw them in the trash and it was you know uh unfortunately this doesn't take the the mask mandate doesn't go off during school hours so we won't have the opportunity to have a a mask removal ceremony the other concern you know of people who are uncomfortable i remember some people saying that wearing a mask was equivalent to attempted or not wearing a mask was equivalent to attempted murder that and so you know we still have people
071who are very paranoid uh about getting sick so there's a there's a lot of details that we need to work out so i i think the bottom line is that we all belong in south kittsap whether we choose to wear a mask or not and i think we have been um divided and i'll use a word that a community member and i have used as we've talked a number of times we need to unify um and and but we do that in a respectful way and and again we do all belong here i think to the questions of uh what what it looks like there are there are some things we are going to continue to do the cleaning is one of those things we're going to continue to do i think we take the
072mask off it's kind of like trying to figure out a food allergy you don't eliminate everything at once you do one thing at a time to see how it goes so we're going to dial things back we have a desire to get volunteers back in our schools but there's a couple of things that we need to wait on next week before that we learn from the department of health we have a desire that we can dial back some protocols but for right now the mask is the thing and um and then we'll start to look at what that looks like but again i i think the focus is on students it's focuses on student activities focuses on opportunities for our students and and to john to your point about the the different feelings people have
073that just goes back to that that we need to respect each other and work through these issues and and we do that through communication and the sooner we can get to our people and say here's what this is going to look like the the better chance we'll have of of hopefully resolving some of those issues kai go ahead um yeah i was just gonna ask about like student activities and things so like right now for example like we still have to pre-register for you know seats at a concert or mamma mia or everything so we have to you know pre-register and you know our capacity is significantly lowered so when it comes to like events and capacity and limited seating and stuff like that i don't how will that continue will that be kind of
074a slow gradual thing um i don't know kyle i'll just say this we'll start to see some changes on that because i i agree with you i had a conversation at the high school with somebody today about that very thing so um those are the things we want to start dialing back but we want to do it safely we want to make sure that every step we take is the right step at the right time jeff go ahead so uh once again i realize that we have a lot of things to figure out but are we talking that teachers have individual autonomy in their rooms for example they now determine their spacing or they determine if they want to start putting desks back together for group work or is this going to be done by
075school or is this going to be done by district it'll still be done by district until we get enough guidance from the department of health that says we can loosen that up and and maybe that that will come from department of health next week i i don't know but until we get the information we're going to continue to have district-wide protocols and alignment on how we operate um i had a question um just because you know obviously people have a lot of different opinions about the mask mandate do we anticipate like a change in enrollment um just because like some like similarly how people families pulled their students out of school because of the mask mandate um are we anticipating like more students or or do you have have we thought of that yeah we've
076we've talked about that but there's just no way of knowing and and i guess potentially there could be some people who pull their kids because there's no mask too so we have to be realistic with that i just don't know what that's going to look like yeah good question so when when do you expect to put out guidance so that everybody knows come monday the 14th what the plan is so we would like to put out guidance tomorrow that says we as a board and a district have stated that we're going to follow the governor of the cdc department of health and that mass will no longer be required as of march 12th and then as we move into next week and we get that department of health guidelines we also have to consider lni
077because right now lni is was finding the districts that defied the mandate they've all flipped and gone back to the masks but what i would see is communication throughout the week next week communication into the first week without masks as we continue to dial back what we're doing and assess the success that we're having so i'll say jeff that communication will start tomorrow but we will we will have a really good idea of uh well we'll know for sure what we need to expect and what the guidelines are for the 14th so so so parents will know prior to the weekend exactly what their what their students uh what the expectations are for teachers everybody prior prior to the weekend of the 14th they will know yes yes of course yeah yeah of course yep
078great Tim did the department of health give you any idea of when they will let us know they initially had said um march 7th that was when it was march 21st was the date uh they said again next week would be the date and next week has met mid to late week for the last two years so we're hoping it's sooner than later we just don't know i know they're working hard at it um we just there's a lot to go through and so we just need to be patient wait on that thanks well it's exciting we'll be able to take that first uh that first step together as a district and uh move to move to optional masks it's been a it's been a long it's been a long road on that so looking
079forward to that first step we need to make a formal decision to to affirm that that we will be followed that we will be lifting the mask mandate on monday morning the uh i don't i don't think so i i think yeah but that's up to the board i think we're just continuing to follow the the laws as they're and the rules as they're written so it's actually not changing where the rules are changing but our approach hasn't changed so i think we don't need to do anything other than to know we don't intend to do that and let you know the world the world can know we don't plan to make any moves in that right anything else on masks right let's talk uh budgets then 304 back to you tim for a kickoff
080thank you so i'm going to just set the table as jennifer comes on to present again as we talked about earlier the point of this really is to just give an overview jennifer is going to give an overview of the process that we're following what we're looking at certainly enrollment is a big part of that uh the esser funds have continued to be a part of that because we have esser funds remaining for next year there's a lot of pieces to this puzzle but the intent really is to get the board thinking and provide us with some input as we work through the timeline that jennifer's going to share so we can make decisions that uh that i tie in with the board results and the goals that you have for our district so with
081that i will turn it over to jennifer to share the slides we have for tonight great thank you superintendent winter good evening board of directors and student representatives we are here to talk about our current budget priorities and planning as we work through this this ties directly to the stewardship link of our priority plan so uh we'll move to the agenda for the evening the plan is to build some understanding to talk about factors that influence the budget uh talk about our budget timeline and then to have some time for the board to discuss and help us with your priorities and your thoughts about how things move forward as we work through this process so first thing we're going to do is look at enrollment our enrollment uh for elementary is on the screen right
082now you see october of 19 full-time students uh versus 20 and october of 21 october of 21 wasn't our highest month this year it typically is but it was only nominally higher in november so putting side to side what we have for our student enrollment at elementary you see that every school there has lost students over the two-year period and we did not see any significant regain of students between 20 and 21 at the elementary level unfortunately that's a minus 536.6 student fte's at our elementary schools and then on the next slide we look at secondary also mostly negative our discovery and explorer programs were able to grow during the pandemic however the other schools experienced the loss perhaps not as steep as it was at elementary but we have nearly 200 less students at
083our secondary comparing october 19 to october of 21 so that helps to identify the problem our students do drive our funding from the state so every spring when we're starting the budget process we are making an enrollment projection that helps us to determine what our revenue will be from the state for the next year we do have a district demographer it's not an employee but an outside consultant he does demography work for a number of districts in the area and he looks at housing starts birth rates south kitsaps history and he makes a pretty extensive report and provides us with three options a low a middle and a high projection of what he thinks our enrollment will do obviously last year was very difficult for anyone to make a projection as to what would happen
084in march of 21 for the following september we were definitely in a completely different place than we are right now pandemic-wise so his low projection that he made in his report last march was 8971 the district andrea and i in the business office did not feel that we wanted to be overly robust we wanted to be cautious about how we budgeted you can see that we went significantly lower than his low projection and our actual was not that far lower than our projection but with the two-year enrollment loss we do find ourselves in a position of needing to make adjustments and right size our ship so to speak so moving to the next slide please the loss of those 734 fte between those two years requires some adjustments we just did not see enrollment come
085back we do feel that our district expenditures would be otherwise largely on track with the esser funding that we received to support pandemic needs we are continuing to invest and infuse those through the system we will have more esser money for next year to support the system as well but it otherwise we feel like we have been in a pretty solid position on our typical expenditures however with the enrollment loss we are currently looking at a total targeted reduction of about seven million dollars so one of the things when we talk about losing students everyone who drives around our community sees that we have housing going up and it's very exciting to see new housing if you are thinking that that means more people and more children in our community so i wanted to just
086give you some background so you know in south kitsap school district we see 32 students per 100 homes 22 years ago that number was 48 so we have been declining in number of students per 100 homes across that time there's very flat birth rate county-wide for kitsap it's about 3 000 a year on average so our demographer has predicted that this number would lower to about 30 students per 100 homes apologies for the typo there by 2030 so that's not very far down the road that he sees us shrinking by even two more students new homes would ideally mean new families not relocating families within our district but we don't we don't know who's going to move into those housing and apartments you see being built affordability in our area is certainly becoming a question
087so we continue to monitor this we we know what is happening at the city and the county level for build starts but now you know what that means for us across the last 22 years as far as how many students come into our system from those homes all right so since we have this challenge we have some current year remedies that we've already put into place we have a strategic halt on hiring and i say strategic because there are things we must do we must bring students to school we must have adequate staff to keep them safe we have categorical monies that if we don't spend we lose so we will be making sure that we are making smart decisions about who and when we replace specific positions on a position by position basis every
088position that is hired in the district goes through multiple approval processes including myself and often the superintendent so we are we keep a close eye on who we're hiring and how they are related to our budget we're also monitoring our msoc which is loosely translated as stuff materials how we're spending those how the schools are trending on their budget as far as what they're doing with their carryover and we will be using additional ester funds this year to maintain continuity of our operations which is allowable under the ester expenditure laws all right here are some factors we need to think about as we go forward into planning next year statewide there are four percent of students who left public k-12 schools across washington where do they go will they be coming back if they come
089back what will their needs be we do know that some of our smaller learners need some extra support on what a school day looks and feels like so we want to make sure that we are ready to welcome whatever students come to south kitsap and that we have the the mechanisms in place to care for them and their needs and their challenges or opportunities coming out of the pandemic we also have our priorities which is what we're here to discuss tonight but some of ours that we know are already listed there from our administrative team and superintendent that we are very interested in that learning recovery in the social emotional support of students and staff we want to see our students students grow clearly this evening have looked at data and want to see that
090getting better and then what will be the pandemic effects on next year at this point it appears that we are in a better space with the COVID-19 pandemic but there may be a seasonal pattern for this illness as well as flu and cold season and that may mean some different things for us we must be patient and wait for the guidance and and do our best to make sure that we keep everyone as healthy and safe as possible we have some more factors on the next slide so we do have ESSER funds the district has been expending those since they were first allocated to us not as quickly as one might think because the supply chains have been so constricted but this year we have a lot of investment in learning support and supervision in
091our schools so that we could operate safely we'll also be looking at legislative outcomes in the recent budget proposals from the house and senate we saw the ipd percentage which means implicit price deflator that is what they extend to school employees by way of a cost of living adjustment to use that term the state pass-through doesn't cover all staff our staff that are funded by federal programs we get the money the federal the budget allocates to us for those if the state is higher then we have to make up the difference from other funds so when you see an implicit price deflator that one of them was that over five percent that was a bit attention getting we know that enrollment stabilization is still on the table with the legislature they have looked to have
092decreased how much they are planning to offer for that but we won't know until they finish the budget and wrap things up and we know that nursing and counseling and systems of support are critical to the legislature they are talking about those as well additional factors we have collective bargaining we have current agreements that need to be honored we look at those of course every year in budgeting to make sure that we are rolling in all of the things that need to be taken care of to address those we will also be bargaining with our partners in psc this spring for an implementation next year and next year the district will also be bargaining with sk ea representing our teachers and nurses for the implementation the following year you're also very aware from news reports
093that inflation and the cost of goods and services is escalating there's increased delayed delivery we now have worldwide political issues that may impact this further so we will be continuing to monitor that and adjust as best we can one of the things i wanted to bring forward as we talk about the potentials before us of what our priorities are class size is usually fairly important to everyone so i wanted to provide this data which is from ospi showing what class size is in south kitsap this is on their report card available to anyone on the osp website compared to some districts around us and then i chose just three puget sound region districts who have a pretty good reputation for their student achievement you can see that we are quite low in our average class
094size compared to other districts this data is also pre-pandemic so it doesn't account for extra teacher infusion of support specialists that we've added nor what other districts have added but it's an interesting comparable so that we can see where we stand with our other districts you know are we high are we low where are we moving forward and what do we want to do with our class sizes in the future and where do we prioritize that all right so when you look at our budget it is large it is complex in some ways it is like a home budget and in other ways it is most definitely not so we're going to talk a little bit about what's flexible in our budget and things that are not so flexible so support staffing levels are flexible
095these are really important staff providing critical services to keep our schools going with support supervision cleaning our office and health room district office staff etc we can look at class size and staffing levels we do have established contract requirements as well as k3 ratio targets that we need to consider but there's some flexibility there and we also have some discretion of how we spend our non-salary dollars on materials and supplies and other services on this slide we see what is not so flexible so we do have insurance we know from our insurer that that will be increasing between 14 and 18 percent for next year and we also know that utilities are not going down so we would be budgeting for that because you must keep the lights on and you must be able to
096ensure the district against any losses we also have collective bargaining agreements that we are pleased to be continuing to support with our bargaining partners categorical dollars are not so flexible so i dollars that we get for special purposes either from the state or federal dollars that are earmarked to special education that are marked to title that are earmarked to english language learning they are required to be spent within the scope of that program they can't be diverted elsewhere in some cases if we don't spend the money we don't get the money or we get the money and have to give it back so we have to be very careful that we are looking at the right buckets of money to make sure that we don't lose out on opportunities because we have not paid attention
097to that and lastly our capital dollars so we do happily have a capital levy presently we've just recently awarded a contract for the pool those dollars that are approved by our voters in the capital account cannot be diverted to operating costs so we can't solve this problem with that the pool project will go on regardless of whether or not we you know wish that we could use some of that money a different way for this current problem that is not legal or possible with those capital dollars so the process we have been undertaking for the last month and a half or so is to meet with stakeholders we have met with our leadership team every principal most of our directors we continue those meetings now obviously we are meeting with you we've had an early
098meeting with our three major employee associations to talk about this very shortly we will be making an enrollment projection i don't think it would be wise to suggest that they will see much growth for next year we need to look at right sizing any staffing issues that we might have we'll be looking at who is retiring or resigning this year to determine if those vacancies need to be filled or if we can hold and wait and see how many students come in in the fall the the risk of that is we want we want the right number of people here to serve the students we get we don't want to start off school year not having adequate staff so there's a tight rope to be walked there we'll also be looking at our ester investments
099for next year what expenditures in that flexible category we can constrict on and we'll be monitoring the legislative action on both enrollment stabilization as well as allocations they may provide for nursing the implicit price deflator increases etc and the timing so we are now in the february march range as i have discussed we'll be looking at that enrollment and staffing decisions we are looking at this from the lens of may 15th is the deadline in washington by law when a certificated employee gets to know if they have a contract for next year or not it's my belief our classified staff should be afforded a similar time frame for what they may have coming in the next year so we work backwards from may 15th we do have an obligation to one of our major bargaining
100partners that we provide them a bit of a more specific look at what any reductions may be six weeks in advance of that deadline so we really are working hard to put all these pieces together and keep everyone involved and get as much stakeholder input as possible while reaching these deadlines in advance of may 15th after that the budget will be completed under statutory regulations and brought to you for a hearing and adoption in august before the new fiscal year starts so with that superintendent winter is going to finish us off thank you jennifer appreciate that just remind the board this is really part of oe5 financial planning and so there's a lot of things in that policy that lead us to want to have this conversation so this really again is not about picking
101apart it's more about where do we want to go this is an opportunity for us to plan accordingly in a tough situation so what we've listed here are pulled out of the results that we have as a board college or career readiness academic achievement technology wellness and our facility improvements and so i put these up here just so that we have a starting point for discussion and again i don't expect nor does jennifer a a full discussion and decision tonight but we would love to just listen and hear what some of the ideas are as we look at the current situation what we're projecting enrollment to be and what not just next year but future years looks like so with that i would love to open the floor for board discussion jeff go ahead before
102we start i don't want to go first because i have a lot of comments but so the problem we're trying to solve is for next year are we trying you know obviously we have the legislature that adjourns in about 10 days so we have a lot of financial information to come out of there that will change in my opinion a lot of this so is that what we're are are we trying to solve this year or are we trying to solve next year so i i think the answer is yes we we need to look at this year um we we don't know you're right legislature could come back with money but we're thinking they're not going to we're going to be conservative and say it is what it is but but as part of
103financial planning and budget planning i think it has to do with a little bit longer term to say what is it that we really want to be about what what is the vision we have so that we can invest some finances toward that and we talked about that a year or so ago with math as a focus and i think that continues to be a focus and continues to need to be a focus so i i think jeff to your question we are looking not so much how do we um we're not necessarily asking how do we solve a seven million dollar deficit but what we're saying is to which direction would you like us to be headed when we start looking at how we navigate not only this seven million dollars but as we
104move into the future so that hopefully we don't have this issue and then we start to see the results that we want to see as a school district and as a community okay thank you so quick question with the seven million dollars this year does that take into account what ester funds could help us with or is that after ester funds had been applied so the seven million dollars is a current year issue but we are addressing that with ester funds that we already have in the budget that the board approved as well as with these other constrictions and we will know as we get deeper into the spring how well that is working so this the solutions that we're talking about are really what are our priorities for next year what things do we
105want to make sure that we invest in for next year and and how does that look so rather than being in a specific like i don't think we should have this this department or this place it's really we want to prioritize behind certain things like superintendent winter has on the screen or maybe there's other things that we want to prioritize but i'm really looking for next year advice from you okay so so yeah so i guess just to just touch on this year i guess for me it's really around providing the greatest opportunity for learning recovery and so i'd want to keep things as normal as possible for this year and then into the summer hopefully of offer uh you know our summer academy or something even more robust than we did last year to
106help overcome that hurdle and then be able to start you know next year on a stronger foot in terms of enrollment i mean nobody knows what's going to happen for sure i mean my guess would be it'd be somewhere between where we are today and and uh you know whatever the lower i guess the lower projections are i think we should get some back but i think it might take a little while i guess for me it's since we're just coming out of the covid my mind still really focused on the overall recovery so maybe that continues with extra focus on math but really i think all areas are probably suffered equally so it's a little bit hard to think about picking picking one of those or emphasizing one of those until we get a
107little bit deeper into the recovery but anyway my two cents well i have to agree um looking at these priorities i really can't pick or choose how i want to shift them around i think they're all important and i think this year we want to finish as strong as we can as we've heard kids are just kind of really getting back into the norm as much as they can we want to keep that going and next year we hope they can start you know fresh when they come into school but all these priorities that are listed here are so important and obviously academic achievements always you know what we're leaning toward which leads to college and career readiness we can't do it without technology wellness is so important and and so many people are so
108concerned about it much more than ever before and we got to do all this in facilities that are safe and conducive to learning so i know i'm not saying anything is probably very useful but i think it's all important and and with what jen has presented i feel very comfortable with my limited knowledge that you know her and her staff along with tim are looking out for the best of our students and our our staff to make it work um jen one question it might be really silly so don't laugh uh regarding esser funds how long does that last that we can receive those or is that done and we're just using what we were given so it's not a silly question and the three rounds of esser had uh two different dates we've already
109expended round one so we don't need to fret about that uh round two and three we have until september of 2024 to uh seek fun those funds be reimbursed as we must spend them first and then we get them back i would not expect uh we will probably get to september of 2024 based on what we know about our budget for next year and some projects we would like to do with air hvac and roofing to uh close up some actively leaking roofs i expect we would be able to expand our esser dollars fully by august of 23 thank you john go ahead uh yeah as i think it was will rogers said no one's safe while the legislature is in session so i think we'll have to wait until they have finished their handy
110work and then it'll take a while to analyze what they've done and the impact so we're not going to be able to make any definite uh decisions you know for another month so i think you know this this is going to be an ongoing discussion uh regarding uh uh miss farmer's comment about the homes being built when we think of homes in our mind we think of a single-family freestanding home but when the demographers talk about homes they're talking about housing units so if you see a single-family home being built it's got a larger square footage and maybe three or more bedrooms whereas an apartment is much smaller square footage and maybe studio one or two bedroom so when we see more apartments being built an apartment doesn't result in more children than a house
111so that's just one thing the other thing is when we approved uh the budget i think by the time we approved like a hunt something like 184 million for the general fund and last year the board was asked about priorities and the board said you know we want to emphasize math as a priority and i don't know that we ever got a report back and i won't i don't expect to you know an answer tonight but maybe at our next meeting exactly what was done in the current year's budget to reflect math as a priority because when we approve 184 million for the general fund according to the superintendent's interpretation of the the oes he can shuffle that money any way he wants within that 184 million he just can't take lunch money and buy
112buses with it uh but if there is money budgeted for professional development for para educators in the middle school uh the superintendent's free to spend that on additional band instruction in the high school without board approval so there the you know we've given the superintendent a great deal of of leeway in that um i think my priority uh goes along with the director wilson and that would be what some people are calling learning loss or in other words we recognize that there have been deficiencies with the pandemic some students have thrived in a remote setting whereas most have not and most of the loss of students have been in the lower grades not in the high school so i think what we really need to focus on is assessing the needs of the individual students
113to see where they are and where they need help now the the special ed students they each have a personalized instructional program and i don't know that we can afford to do that for every student but i think we need to put a little more emphasis on not just the big numbers how our groups of students doing but each student is an individual and if we need to if we need to get additional people for assessment uh maybe that's what we need to find out exactly what are the what are the what are the deficiencies of each student what each student needs in order to succeed and we can't do that in big numbers we've got to do it one by one so that's where i would like to see the the the emphasis and
114and i'd like to see exactly what can be implemented in order to uh to accomplish that ryan go ahead um thank you and and i i concur with what everybody said and and uh john kind of a segue to to to my comments i i won't repeat what everybody said but it's it's i think it's it's so important that we listen to you know tom and lisa and everybody that they work work with and and get information with as far as student learning which the courses are are top priority all the other things come along with it and should support that um but we need to hear from them specifically you know is it math you know maybe i don't know is it reading um as a you know 30-year elementary principal i i would
115think that uh probably reading at the elementary but that's just that's just me guessing on past experience we we don't want to be based on on a guess and i'm not suggesting that we do that but i think we need to have that information um you know where's our glaring needs where where do we need and i agree with you know helping um get kids back where they where they should be or where we feel that they should be and and um we need the the experts to be able to point us in that direction but again i concur with really what everybody has said um to to a very high degree okay jeff you're up okay uh my comments are uh kind of mixed here because uh i don't see how we could fully
116have this discussion without some of the discussion that we're going to do a little bit later so let me start by saying first of all academic achievement plain and simple people are not going to buy houses and put their or buy homes and put their kids in a school that doesn't have high academic achievement and standards uh i i don't know how else i can say that for this year uh we seem to uh be a little slow remembering that we have a graduating class and although it's been a better year than it was the previous year those folks still need all the assistance possible to get out the door okay so it hasn't been a great year or great two years and they went through it as juniors but there's still time to help
117our seniors with whatever they need so for this year looking at seniors uh among the other things that we're talking about is my focus i'd like to go back to some of the slides here because some of these comments uh are uh pertinent to our later thing i'd like i'd like to go back to slide uh slide three and slide four okay so uh miss farmer for what i understood you said and obviously we have a demographer and we also have the growth management act and all that information uh you don't expect even though we've leveled off you're not going to make a your expectation for next year is a small increase at most in these numbers is that correct that is what i think is a fiscally prudent position to take okay it isn't
118what i want but it's what i think we need to do no i i i'm with you too i understand okay uh can we go to slide six okay so uh um i i don't understand your comment on the expenditures with the uh esser funding there uh and then later on i'm going to ask the same question of why are we using esser funds for uh continuity of operations so the point of that bullet is that we feel that our budget is on track and supporting what the priorities have been expressed to us through the priority plan along the way we may wish to make different priorities going forward but if it wasn't for the loss of 734 students and the revenue that would have been coming from the state to educate those students we
119feel that our district expenditures would have been largely on track then we have the pandemic that sits side by side with that and the esser funds are there and supporting those extra needs that were pandemic related right now so had it not been for the enrollment loss we do feel that we would have been on track um you mentioned you wanted to talk about continuity of operations later so would you like me to pause on that so you get there well yeah i'll be there in a second but okay what i so now that now now that based on the earlier slides and we know that we're not expecting a lot of students then now is the time i'm assuming that that that we are going to look much more at expenditures is that correct
120because we know that we're going to need time if we're expecting less students for next year is that right yes okay all right so okay uh can we go to uh slide number seven okay all right i'm uh uh mr burg made some clarification on the housing the the way that uh i see this is uh and this relates to next year and down the road is what that means is that for our graduating class of 500 kids let's say every year you have to have 1500 families come into port orchard with kids to maintain the growth so while we see housing everywhere it still takes 1500 families based on these figures for us to just maintain a graduating class of 500 okay and the other part that uh we talk about is your bullet
121on affordability we're all watching that but this is not with the exception of all the jobs that are taxpayer funded in this community this is not a large community where hundred thousand dollar jobs to afford five hundred thousand dollar houses are abundant so that is a concern of when we think people are pouring in here um slide number eight uh that's the one that uh can you can you clarify the esser funds for continuity of operations please certainly so we had 11 million dollars of esser funds built into this year's budget not all of it is uh accounted for yet as far as earmarked or encumbered for specific expenditures so due to our enrollment loss uh part of the esser law allows us to maintain continuity of operations so esser funds that are in the
122budget that the board approved will be used to help us with our current problem that is generated by that enrollment loss okay and then we'll figure it out when the legislature decides what they're going to do well the legislative action will affect next year not current year so yes okay uh slide number nine okay uh see where was i here we've already discussed learning recovery and i also agree that i think that is the most important need and use for esser funds um i've already talked on academic excellence uh can we go to slide uh slide 10 um okay you made a comment on uh uh the price deflator doesn't uh cover all staff can you elaborate on that a little bit more um certainly uh so the state provides an allocation uh for salary
123levels for all staff they apply the implicit price deflator increase to that if a district is is um expending local levy funds to increase salaries to be competitive then the percentage of ipd for that would be a local cost as well as uh very fundamentally in any federally funded employee which would be a number special education food services workers etc those we get what the fed's budget for and if the state implicit price deflator is higher than that difference is made up out of district local funds okay i think i'll uh hold on that comment for right now um okay uh since this is a perfect opportunity to irritate everybody in the entire district and i wouldn't want to disappoint them sooner or later we cannot continue to pay more than what the state gives
124us sooner or later the taxpayer if you're going to ask for levies o and m levies bonds etc we cannot continue to pay more than the state gives us okay uh let's go to slide 11 i think it speaks for itself when you look at south kitsap an average class size of 16 and others are higher okay um let's go to slide 12 okay um i think i'll uh i know we have a state model and what you're saying is flexible and we've come to use to that but i'm going to ask everyone to go back 150 years ago and remember how we used to educate students so think back for all the movies you watch 150 years ago and tell me what the five items that were in a classroom at that time and
125i'll think and then you can see that we've evolved quite a lot over 150 years but one thing those five things were constant let's go to slide 13 uh let's go to the next one here i i disagree on that slide but let's go to this one so uh no i'm sorry let's go to next slide 14 i'm sorry 15 i'm sorry okay what are you trying to tell us on may 15th may 15th is the statutory date by which certificated staff get to know their contract status if they were not going to be renewed if there was going to be an unfortunate reduction in force then that is the latest that they can receive that information correct and so having watched this over the years since i was part of this twice and i
126know how this ends i can only say that the mission of the south kitsap school district is to educate kids and we have one group of people that educate kids and we have lots of groups of people that don't educate kids they're very necessary but they don't educate kids and i'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but that is the reality that we live in and if you have seven million dollars that you've got to come up with the mission of the district is to educate kids and that's what the board's job is to do okay i will uh now that i've irritated everybody i'll uh quit there great let's uh let's move on i think uh just like to offer a little counterpoint and i would disagree with a lot of what
127you said there and i think that everyone in the district is necessary we all have a part to play uh for educating our kids and all of those different staff uh play a role uh that's important so i wouldn't want to minimize any of them and neither would i and that's not what i meant well that's i'm sure that uh everybody will be through my remarks well when it comes to when it comes to making budget cuts yes everyone is necessary but several more necessary than others and decisions need to be made gonna have to make decisions folks sorry that part we understand so we got we got what we need appreciate the conversation and we got the information we need and we'll continue to report back as we move forward on this thank you
128thank you um let's see we've been at this for for almost two hours now can i suggest that we take a break uh until the top of the hour uh so come back at seven sharp and then we'll have to move through a couple items we might have to to cut some a little bit shorter than others given how much we had to get done but i would like to see us to the end of this very important agenda by the end of today so uh without objection uh we'll recess until uh seven p.m so we need to wait for a couple so give folks another couple of seconds to get back online here and then we'll get going oh there we go okay so we have most folks back uh let's see welcome back
129to the march 2nd sk school board meeting um next item up is focus on results 401 over to you tim to kick it off thank you so as our board calendar shows it is the opportunity to uh highlight cte so i'm going to pass the baton to tom so he can pass it on to sarah and uh we'll go from there tom how'd you know i was a relay runner in my past life uh it is with a lot of pleasure i get to introduce sarah hatfield our director of career and technical education and she's going to be joined by greg kilpatrick um our assistant director i think right sarah uh greg unfortunately if he did not catch the 7 30 fairy the next one was not until 10 30 and since we started our
130first meeting at 650 this morning i opted to let him uh take the advantage of that fairy so good job a general eats before the troops troops eat before the general um so without further ado sarah hatfield one person show all right thank you um and just thank you to the board and everyone here for your support tonight we're going to just talk through a little bit about what career and technical education is and then really how it ties into our planning and so here you see just the mission and vision of career and technical education as we go throughout you're going to see some pictures of our programs highlighted i did not include the list of all the courses in which we offer in pathways i did include those as an attachment to your
131board agenda so you can review those at your leisure and i encourage everyone watching um to take that opportunity as well to see just the vast array of programs that we have to offer so i won't read this to you but just to talk a little bit about the cte model itself it's really focused on classroom instruction and theory through academic alignment and standards uh linked to shop and hands-on lab skills and soft technical skills we'll see that in most great quality classrooms the big thing that makes ct different is really the extended learning the outreach below beyond the classroom the employment and then the center they're the current tech student organizations so those are things like deca ffa those aren't clubs they are an extended of learning from kids in the course beyond the
132classroom that's really supported by certified teachers every ct teacher has to have industry experience within the industry they're teaching in we're guided by our advisory committees which are community-wide committees of workforce that guide us into what our programs need and then we're through our perkins laws we make district-wide plans that help guide us as well some other pieces that come into play are our priority plan the destination top five that leads us to what standards we might be looking at within our four-year plans that each program has to create and then we create a district-wide four-year plan which you guys had the opportunity to review earlier in the year then we have to do a comprehensive local needs assessment which is the cnla we also have to set priorities from that and that's done every
133two years each program every year has to do an evaluation and the cnla also is kind of what guides what each of our priorities are so as i go throughout i'll kind of tie back to where they all connect together so like i said the destination top five our priority plan here this is where we would fall in is to academic excellence some of the main indicators that would be in this area are definitely industry certifications but then really looking at the career and tech expanding or pathways for students and enhancing them and yeah we'll go with that you see this hopefully many times the cnla i won't read all of these but each element there are five main elements the first element is looking at each one of our pathways so we break it
134down to the course level to each special population group to the their success on each indicator in the second one we look at just how we've determined levels of performance and evaluate the performance of them on like say state standardized testing and a few other matrix which that one is changing for us often ct programs this is probably the most complicated one but that they are of significant size scope and sequence which gets pretty detailed and then our progress moving towards and implementing programs of study which i'll define that for you a little bit later as well and then just our recruitment retention and training of our career and tech ed staff and all staff within the system on career and tech ed guidance and academic counseling to support all students so within perkins there
135are like i said the evaluation there are 16 elements which each program must evaluate in with support of their advisory board and students and these are the or 16 areas and these are the 16 areas in which the programs each evaluate themselves on they then move into setting a plan for each program area on these 16 criterion and then we set which with each member a of each program area we then set our district-wide plan that we're going to put into place for the next four years this again is just that process it's really important to note that every step our advisory partners are extremely crucial to that i know kate has been an advisory member for many years in family consumer science it's extremely important the input that those business and industry partners give
136to our programs to be able to move them to the next step and really in that end piece it's interesting to bring someone from every single one of our pathways there's 16 overall pathways but we bring the lead together to really set our district-wide plan some just quick facts within career and technical education we have 14 teachers at the middle school some of them are not full fte in ct but there are 14 individuals there we have 38 individuals and those are all not full-time but are partial ct as well discovery we have two teachers and then there are six classified staff that support four of those being para educators within specific ct programs at the at various levels course offerings we have nine different courses at the middle school we see 92 at the
137high school and i will say 92 is not different classes some of those are combined into multiple classes as they proceed through the levels but it is a great opportunity that we have to be able to offer the variety of pathways we have from culinary to careers and education to automotive to welding agriculture and business there's just a wide wide variety that we're able to have students explore within cte five of our classes are ap courses and then equivalency courses we have 49 which is extremely important because that means a student is taking a ct class that is also meeting an academic requirement that can be science that could be math that could be the arts it could be ela but while they're completing their ct course they're also meeting that academic course 23 of
138them are tech prep tech prep means that they are an 80 match for the college so as the student earns a b or better in those courses they also earn the college credit for that course as well those are great opportunities there's just some statistics there we had 1,092 students enrolled in those dual credit programs we had 548 attend college credits students in there and 2,576 credits were awarded last year to students at the college level so something to really celebrate there industry certifications which i'll refer to as ircs so industry recognized credentials those are when a student earns something in a course that could be used in the workplace so that could be forklift certification to first aid cpr to food handlers a wide variety there last year we had 465 which was an
139amazing accomplishment within the setting that we had so our teachers and students worked hard to do that work-based learning is something we couldn't do last year and this year at the start to the pandemic but that means a student is doing a work-related experience to related to the ct course they've taken and we can award credit so we're looking to get that back in action this year and we're already on a good track but the previous year we had or this year so far no 1920 we had 6650 hours or five hours sorry about that this is just our enrollment and headcount and current technical education we're funded based upon the students sitting within the class each period so you see the headcount and fte kind of variation there that doesn't mean we have 4931
140students at secondary that's just how many students are able to take the classes so that's just a comparison for the years there another thing that's new right now is graduation pathway alternatives and so this kind of just shows out of and this is 2020 data that we have most recent access to is that 50.2 percent of students were able to achieve their graduation requirements using career and tech ed pathways so that means they've taken two credits within a ct pathways that have either a dual credit or irc in them and it relates to their high school and beyond plant we expect to see this number grow because the ability to track the data is becoming more accurate so one big thing to understand the data i'm going to go over next is a perkins concentrator
141and this the with the new perkins law that came into effect and that's a federal law last year that a concentrator is now the term in which they define so that's why we're going to see big jumps in what our data looked like because they changed the definition of what the terms were so the concentrator is a student that has at least two courses in a single career tech program of study area a pro at study it's really defined by a credit means that they have a full one credit so that could be two point five class point five each semester or a class that's a year long and they must earn the two credits in a single pathway within their four-year cohort so in perkins these are the indicators that we're going to look
142at data for they take those concentrators that student that we define and then they look at them to see what our rate is of a concentrator in terms of their four-year graduation rate extended graduation rate academic proficiency in reading math science post-secondary placement where they're going post-secondary non-traditional enrollment how many students we have each course has an identifier of male female or unspecified with the course and so in computer science we might have predominantly males we're working to get in a non-traditional enrollment of females or unidentified into that course and then the attain post-secondary credentials is about that dual credit or post-secondary credentials is about that irc's piece and the credits is about dual credit and participating in work-based learning the ones i put no data in the target because that's what the state target
143is going to set us at there was no data recorded for those elements in the last reporting because they're brand new so they weren't collecting the data in those areas but those will be the targets that we're shooting for so what our data looks like and it's a little bit difficult because they pull it it's 2020 data that we write our 2021 plan off of so here we have the totals for south kids up school district in the elements in which we can collect those then we have ct concentrators what that defined amount of student rate was and then we have a state target that they're setting for us to achieve the next step and then we have our negotiated target where this can be tricky on why we negotiate our targets is you can
144see for graduation rate we achieved ct concentrators 89.6 percent of those students graduated on a four-year rate we when we set our target we either set it at what the state is asking or if we were below standard we set it three points above okay so that leads us to our next steps where are we going when we have all this information and data that we collect and our advisory members give input the biggest question i get asked is why don't you offer this program or how do you offer what programs you have and so what we have to show when we're offering a program is we have to ensure that we have academic rigor we have to make sure that it aligns with the state education reform requirements that it helps address a skills
145gap in washington we are waiting and have been waiting for three years for a new high demand skills occupation list to be dropped that will change what programs we offer that's probably the biggest factor that will if it is not a place that students can get employment in the future we cannot offer the course we have to maintain strong relationships with programs advisories if we don't have advisory members willing to sit in our board and it has to be higher than the percentage of teachers then we cannot offer the program they have to meet three to four times a year if we don't do it we don't have the program so that's extremely important it has to be a comprehensive program of study it can't just be one course placed it has to have a
146full pathway in which students are able to meet and then of course we have to have student enrollment and student interest and sometimes that's where we do see a disconnect computer science there's a lot of jobs out there are students ready to understand what computer science is and interested in taking it we've got some work to do to to advertise that to them about the employment opportunities so a program of study really incorporates the state academic standards the technical knowledge and skills has to build upon itself it needs to be aligned with the needs of industry tribal and local areas in our state and region it has to progress specifically being all aspects of industry and career leading to more occupational instruction so it has to it's kind of starts out exploring and then moves
147into preparing students for that next level it has to have multiple entry and exit points incorporated into credentialing and it must culminate in attainment of recognized post-secondary credentialing so it has to lead to a technical school a four-year occupational you know irc there has to be that connection to the to the workplace or the next step in their education so i am kicking time tom do you see in this here right i'm nervous and trying to honor your guys's night i'm going so quick i'm almost done so the plan really moving forward and i tried to align it and greg graciously did this and talked me through it but really kind of tied on the left there where it it links to those different plants so the what is hard is a lot of times
148you know we have our priority plan for our district then we have our cnla that we need to meet and we have perkins and it's finding the connection between those so they don't all feel like more work they feel like connected work that we're doing together so the pieces i laid out on that side are really about where those connections are and kind of how we're going to get there so some of the actions that we're looking at in terms of alignment of high of all pathways that meet the high demand and occupations forensic and biomedical is definitely a pathway that we're exploring and looking at at kind of converting and expanding cyber security is another one bowing core plus is a program that first started out with only manufacturing and was about riveting and
149aerospace they've now expanded beyond just bowing to be full core plus they're coming out with a medical one as well but they have now added a construction maritime all three of those we have in our school we are a very small population that is able to have that in our school and it is because we have the availability and schedule for students to take those courses and get through the pathways but it provides a lot of support in terms of partnership and just leading directly to those occupational pathways for students the exploring trades class is a new course that we're going to be offering in next year that will kind of be combined with our controls and apprenticeship and the reason we went with the exploring trades is because we don't we can't afford to
150have a separate section of a class for every single apprenticeship that is available and so what we're doing within that class is they're going to get an osha 30 they're going to get forklift they're going to get excavator and then they are going to explore all of the trades and by the second semester of that they'll be in their individual trade that they're looking at and getting out to workplaces and exploring what those options are for apprenticeships within our local area and the state program of study documentation we're really working to clean that up to one and form families and parents and most of all students but we have a lot of work to do to educate staff on programs of study as well so we're on about our sixth rendition of a visual for
151those and it's a lot of work to do that and then we're putting those out to stakeholders to give us feedback on what they think is helpful at each level of those groups and really trying to communicate what those are so students can select classes better and they know what occupations they're leading to and then high demand alignment like i said that's going to be a big piece when that list comes out of what courses we will continue to offer and what we will not if it doesn't lead somewhere we're not putting kids there in our alignment and implementing certifications and work-based learning and so these these three areas i'm kind of going over are the biggest things that are going to impact our change so the ircs that came out last year they gave
152one list this year they gave another list and we're expecting another one from the workforce board in the next two months that will expand it beyond 100 but instead of just what our advisory committee is suggesting the state is telling us what will count as an irc the difficulty with that is i'll use a plus certification which is a computer networking one for example some of those irc tests cost 189 dollars a student and they have to take two so that's a big balance and budgeting factor that we have to prioritize to be able to not place that burden on students but to be able to support them in in their achievement so really transitioning to the state list with advisory input is a big step in action that we're going to need to take
153and we are taking integrating those standards then into the frameworks we our frameworks are the what lays out what each of our course teaches if we don't put in the standards and the frameworks then we're not really teaching them so we have to know how we're going to teach and assess them and then making sure that the teachers get those certificates that they have their professional development i think in the next week we're sending two off to get their train the trainer forklift and train the trainer osha 10 certification so that the teachers have the competencies to be able to support our students and then making sure that our materials instructional materials are aligned and our facilities are aligned we're using our perkins grant this year to purchase a forklift simulator so they can use
154that before we put them on the actual forklift safety first is number one so a lot of those ircs will drive what we do in terms of facilities and instructional materials work-based learning is something the first thing we have to do is give professional development to our teachers and to understand the new definitions and they have released the new list as of wednesday with another adjustment that's last wednesday not this one so really getting ahead of the game and educating our teachers but we anticipate that we'll see a big drop in that indicator because if they don't understand what the definitions are they can't teach it to students they can't set up the opportunities and we can't track it so the entire state's kind of in the same place but it has to start with
155educating our teachers first and then identifying that tracking and reporting tool that's not more work that is work that makes sense for our teachers we we don't want to put more on them and then identifying the opportunities with our advisory members and a lot of them are doing that right now i think our family consumer science group is meeting tonight and so they're really kind of nailing out what are some of those opportunities and it looks like an example of them like our student store would be a store-based enterprise that would count as a work-based learning opportunity one in our automotive they complete a job research project they do a resume and cover letter and then they have to pair that with a job interview every single kid in automotive does that so a guest
156speaker can't just be a guest speaker it has to be a guest speaker and going to a job site for a workplace tour so as those definitions change we will pick up to meet them and and work to record them accurately and then access to programs is another one and it's not that the achievement isn't the academic achievement isn't a top priority however we don't have all of the indicators yet to be able to to align those but the access to programs is is one we really need to focus on and have been focusing on so making sure that our facilities we do an assessment to make sure that they're meeting student needs and that all students can access them and implement those facility plans that we've put into place and making sure that we
157have access adaptive equipment is a big one we've had a lot of success working with our special education partners to make sure that we support all students and adaptive equipment in every single classroom and area refinement of the timeline for the data indicators so one big piece that's really hard with student access to programs is the data by the time we get it that it goes through perkins it's too old to do anything with so we're looking for ways to get the data before it gets reported to the state that we can make decisions with in real time with our advisory groups one to celebrate that we are doing continuing is co-collaborator projects so an example is our independent living teacher who is predominantly female students partnered with our automotive who is predominantly male they
158went to stevie's class to learn how to purchase a car the automotive students did and our independent living students went to automotive and learned how to change a tire we had 14 increase in female enrollment after that one project the following year and six of them were from that project so now we've expanded to an interior design and wood construction and we think that's really a strategy that works that the benefit of being so big is that we get to offer what we can the downfall is that kids just don't know what's there and so we're trying to find creative ways to show them that and we feel like that's one that has worked and so we're going to look to continue that and then again educating the students families and staff on what the
159alignment to education is in those programs of studies and then the biggest piece is what's working and what's not so really surveying our stakeholders on programs and studies and just specifically in this area students on perceptions and biases in their experiences as they enter a pathway and they leave a pathway those are some of the actions that we're taking to improve in our access to programs 25 minutes and 25 seconds so i'll take questions and i i joke about the time but i know it's important the time you have here tonight i appreciate each and every minute that you gave me to just share about our programs i'm excited for you guys to get to come in and tour our programs when you're able to i think it's there's there's nothing good about hearing me
160talk there's a lot good about seeing what's going on and what students and teachers are doing yeah so sarah real quick great great information lots of stuff to show up this and i really am impressed by the breadth and and the depth too of these programs they're uh they're pretty awesome can you tell me about what impact that being able to offer something or these cte type programs has on graduation rates you think it helps keep kids in school and keep them you know keep them through graduation yeah so i think the biggest indicator to that is that ct concentrators so students that have taken two or more courses are 89 percent compared to 86 are graduating typically that number is a lot higher so i think you know as we go forward we usually
161are up in words of the 90s i definitely think it makes a difference in engaging our students in in understanding and applying uh what they're learning in class i just was in the boat building class today and a kid was like finally i know why i learned that math i thought it was pointless and that's really making those connections for kids it it works so wonderful thank you sarah thank you great presentation sarah thank you thank you mr mr daly then mr pickard i'm not sure so uh so you said you have 16 pathways but you have 90 some odd classes so i guess i'm i'm missing when i looked over your list of classes in some cases you have integrated mechanics one and immigrated two same way for automotive one and two so what
162happens next i mean what is the pathway if if there's only two courses how do we have an automotive technology pathway so uh i have a great document that i will share with you that lines them out by pathway and clusters some of the pathways automotive is a two-year program that's a pathway they're both preparatory level courses so we would like to see a student take an exploratory course before that which could be future focused to explore careers which could be um you know the introduction in that pathway is also woods skilled any skilled and technical trades class some of the codes in which we have courses only allow you to offer two years of a level so like athletic medicine we can't have more than two years of that course within that code so
163really a pathway is two to three years it's not always four years we try to make them have a four-year entry and exit points but it's that consolidated two-year piece that we're looking for the other factor like you say the like the 92 is how many frameworks that we have to complete we offer some of those classes pro start is a perfect example our beginning our advanced culinary level class they're combined into one section of a class um text there's a lot of classes that by the time the kid gets to that extremely advanced level that it's combined with the second level at the same time so there's not 92 different classes placed in the schedule does that answer kind of so how many of these classes are full well i just ran my report
164i'll give it you the exact number um but i would say we have about nine sections that i would consider to not be full we do we are staffed at a 23 to 1 teacher rate which is different that's how we're paid from the the state for um but we do run like health for example at 32 so that we can run some of the sections when we get to that extreme advanced level um at a lower rate we also have we have to look at like program build so i kind of explained this to someone the other day it takes three to five years for a program to build you have to in essence have three classes or sections of the lower level to build to two of the middle level to get to
165one of the high level and that's the attrition we want to see some of the classes are still in building structure so they don't get it takes that kind of three to five years for that to build um but they're the majority of the programs there are probably two to three um that are declining enrollment and i would say they're declining in high demand pathway as well so we're aware of that how many of these classes are required for graduation and how many are electives so one career and technical education credit is required however we have the 32 classes that are equivalency credit which can also meet an alternate graduation requirement and due to graduation pathways now being an opportunity for success for graduation having multiple pathways offered can help students meet their requirements for
166graduation in terms of sba um and testing requirements and so last last question you you showed some statistics but uh how do we find out how well students are succeeding and how do we know how your classes and your program is succeeding in other words you've got a lot of a lot of data and a lot of stuff but how do we know what's effective and what's not what needs to be deleted and what needs to be added how are you looking at that so so those uh kind of things that we showed you that i show you tonight are the are the bigger picture of it i don't show you this which you can't see with my thing here but this this this spreadsheet here of just every course data by every demographic by
167every student by every standard we'd be here uh until spring break right um so how we do that is we assess them each individually by every single program in those 16 criterion areas they have to delineate and look at the data and then they set their priorities and we set them into our plan every single one is reviewed and scrutinized to the most meticulous point of data and that goes into our cnla opportunity as well so that stuff to share we have the collection points my biggest frustration for cnla and our priority plan they don't align so um we have data at weird snapshots and that's why i say trying to pinpoint right now what we're really working on is the most accurate data in real time but we have to look at every single
168course to the student to the demographic to the standard on each one of those points and last last question now i'll try and come see you uh whenever i can it was uh preempted but and then i'd like to see some of this but uh so where are the parents involved in this and how do they track their students progress and obviously you're going to have some students that start out they want to be whatever and then they change and now they want to be something else how is this how are the parents involved so that students that are interested in this in these pathways are informed of their students progress so uh one piece just like every parent is involved in academic communication through grades through industry recognized credentials through celebrating their students but
169the biggest key to that to me is educating they are just as much as a stakeholder as our staff and students are in understanding programs of study and their options so that they can go over those with their kids that they can know where they they lead and what their options are and they also the people that sit on our advisory committees they're working people in our community they're our parents they're you know sometimes we get we get the kates that we get to hold on for an extra couple years too but most of the time they are the ones that are parents of students currently sitting in our courses so as we survey out those programs the study will be surveying just as many parents as we are students and staff so did we
170send you any s or money for your students that are behind are you a recipient of s or money for students that are behind the s or money that supports students and academic achievement uh supports ct students as well so those i it's the same they're the same kids a ba kid is a ct kid it's the same money that supports us all okay and and you are getting s or funds for your program is that correct as far as as far as all of the students that you have that are both with you and obviously in general ed curriculum and special ed you're you're they're getting that help too yes the math work that gets done ct teachers are included the work that gets done around pp and support and that the work that
171gets done with facilities through that s or funding all support ct as equal as it does basic ed okay and and special ed of course thank you yes yes yeah mr pickard yes thank you sarah um my i don't really have any questions per se it's more just sort of a couple quick comments first of all wow um i i have a group of uh actually college friends that they're all retired now one's from federal way one summer one ren one tahoma they're all secondary i'm the i'm the lone elementary guy the the connection here is that when we get together and have lunch and discuss things and everything um multiple times they have talked about south kids apps cte program um and and i know that people before you helped build it but you
172have just taken it through the roof and i'm just so proud of you um as your former elementary assistant principal i'm very proud of you and proud of the program um sarah's only 12 by the way but um but anyway don't look at my gray thank you for your work and everybody that works with you it's it's incredible so nice job thank you i appreciate and it's it's not it's uh you know it was built a lot before me but the teachers dedication that we have in our programs and the staff we have and the district support that we have i will say we are the top program in washington state we have more to offer we have excellent programs every conference that we go to were looked at for direction and that's not because
173of me that's because of the support we have in the teachers we have in our program so um and the output of students that we're getting and i will give a shout out to jesse and kai see you guys kai said hey you're a ct kid i've just seen you in three classes today so um they're they're great ct students for us as well so john yeah just a comment i had two grandmothers teaching school a hundred years ago and they didn't have any cte to provide their students and i'm glad we have it in our district and i certainly wouldn't want to go back a hundred years to what we had them thank you all right well i think we've uh we've been through the the rounds and again thank you sarah and thanks
174everybody on the ct team so great work thank you all right john john you have a question or a suggestion are we done with the ct yes we are yeah i'd like to move to postpone 5.01 operational expectation seven postpone that to our next meeting okay that motion yep um yeah so i would agree i think that was really good i know people are prepared for it but i want to get to some other stuff so i think that'd be wonderful let's uh put that up for a vote if that's all right uh those in favor of postponing uh 701 until the next meeting please raise your hand and say aye aye which one we're talking about um the next 501 oh uh sorry 501 operational expectation seven uh yeah 501 we move right to
175the public comment next okay all right the eyes the eyes have it look like uh so we will uh apologize for canceling on that one but uh we'll pick it up next time and now we're off to public comment we have a few folks signed up amy so while the amy is getting ready just to remind you uh public comment we do appreciate public comment we'd like to hear from from the public at large to comment on our work here particularly whatever we have on the agenda and from week to week um we give each of you three minutes we will carefully consider and listen to and consider your um your comments but we can't respond back in real time we do thank you for those comments and we're looking forward to hearing them this
176evening i'll run a clock in the background i'll hold up one finger when there's one minute left and i'll close my hand for uh times up and then i'll let you know if you're running over uh amy who's first tonight uh we have reannon mccarthy reannon you're here as a panelist now so i'll ask you to unmute your microphone can you hear me yes okay um so i just want to say good evening to all the school board members and the student representatives tonight i would like to address obviously the never-ending masking debate as well as some covid protocols that have taken place in our schools um the last meeting that we had it was brought up that uh the high school put on a play production with the kids going unmasked during the play
177as much as that makes me extremely happy it also makes me irritated at the same time because i've got a freshman and junior who go to the high school and they can't walk down the hallway or quietly sit at their desks without being unmasked so that is one thing that i wanted to address and the other thing that i wanted to bring up was um i don't know if you guys have seen but per the dod and cdc guidance the mask mandate has been lifted from the shipyard which is the largest employer in south in kitsap county they have 15 000 employees who work in very close proximity to each other and so if the shipyard can lift the mask mandate i don't see why we can't lift the mask mandate um so that is
178another thing and um one of the other things that i wanted to bring up was i have seen that the latest school assessments show 70 percent of students have failed to meet the standards in math and 52 percent have failed to meet the standards in english and so with those statistics i find it sad because with those statistics showing i feel like the schools are more worried about meeting covid protocols and getting that s or money than our kids education um and let's see what else was there um so it has also been proven that the covid protocols have hurt our children immensely obviously with those latest assessments i think the covid protocols and the school shutdowns have hurt our children more than they have helped them it has been a fact in science that
179children represent no danger to adults when it comes to spreading covid our children are more in danger of suicides and depression or being sex traffic than they are dying of covid so um you know sorry that's your time for this evening i do thank you for sharing your viewpoint with us tonight thank you i can see you all right let us know who's next amy uh next i have jamie cross all right go ahead and unmute yourself jamie thank you i think i got it yeah yes we can hear you all right guys just uh you guys got a busy night tonight going over a lot of stuff it sounds like it's nice to hear some talk about the academics a little bit that's what the main focus should be um it's kind of concerning
180that the the masks uh you know we're still waiting on that the local health department to make an ultimate decision that's kind of saddening um you guys as a district should uh you know pretty much be telling the health department we're we're getting back to normal to start getting these kids taught as for the lni aspect i don't see where the governor and the state health board you know lni is a state-run entity so i don't see how that would have any bearing on on the decision moving forward with the masks but uh seems like we got a lot of work ahead of us you know and want to focus on the kids is the main thing and i i know there's talk about the uh you know people being uncomfortable you know i heard
181some some about the teacher you know you don't want the teacher to be uncomfortable with the the kids wearing the masks or not wearing the masks but you got to look at the other way you know what about the kids and you know maybe they got a teacher that you know that isn't going to follow the science anymore and they're wearing a mask you know the psychological effects that could have on the children i think there should be uh you know it'd be a good idea to you know since the teachers are all vaccinated and if they're not that's their choice and you know they're willing to take the risk maybe you know none of the teachers should be wearing masks and continuing on with this facade and especially the younger kids you know the
182learning with uh reading and stuff you know the the mouth formation is a big part of that you know so kids are going to be have different level of teachings you know because of the mask and i mean you know you have no problem forcing people to wear them and forcing people to get shot so i don't see why forcing them not to wear them especially with the science now i don't i don't think that should be a big deal i think it should be across the board for for everybody and as for the students i guess you know that should be their choice or their parents choice their children but as for the teachers i think they should all be on the same page and set the standards and not not be fearful and
183impose the fear on the kids and everybody's going to be fine you know the damage is done obviously with the uh the academics and it's just uh think thank you guys you know i don't know if there's any way we can start you know getting back to not being under the guise of the state and the mandates and the health departments and you know it seems like the scores across the border or the whole state are are pretty sad you know and it seems like it's the same entities that are controlling all that all the whole system and obviously the kids are suffering and i know you guys are in a bad spot because you have to do what you're told or else you know the state will extort money from you and the federal
184money in the ester funds and it it's just a big mess you know but it really needs to get back to just the kids focusing on the kids so thanks guys thank you thanks for sharing your point of views last night we appreciate it all right okay next up we have judy arvigast mute there we go okay we can hear you go ahead uh thank you so much um and wow the cte program and uh is incredible um i have um i just want to thank all the teachers again and i um i am so disturbed by people that do not trust the teachers i mean they are a force of force to be reckoned with um and i um lately i've been hearing a lot about banning of books again and i just um
185want to emphasize with you that and i know that that you know that banning books just really does not help the kids this is their time of learning and we need to be helping them learn uh whatever they they need to learn too um and have a wide number of experiences um our our students need that freedom to learn and teachers must not be uh intimidated into not sharing books um with with their students um and i just appreciate that all you are all you are doing and um i wish we could get some more positive folks here uh commenting on on the board meetings because there really is a lot of incredible stuff going on here in our district thank you for what you're doing that's it all right thank you very much thanks
186jude for coming and sharing your point of view with us we really appreciate it thank you okay next up we have and this is the final one uh dan smallwood i'm not sure where the delay in promoting him to panelists i'll just um okay dan you're in here can you unmute please he doesn't seem to be responding as promoted into a panelist but not okay well uh thank you and uh sorry miss you dan catch you next time and thank you everyone who came and participated thank you very much thank you amy for making that happen okay let me stop my clock here all right so that takes us now to the uh board development so legislative update uh keats what do you all righty so both the school support funding bill and the enrollment
187stabilization um jennifer mentioned this earlier but they're still going forward uh the end of the session is the 10th of this month so there's not a whole lot more time but both those bills are on their second reading the one i couldn't find and i had to do some calling around was the transportation bills to help with transportation and right now both those bills are stalled and if things don't get moving like really quick um it's not going to go any further so but the other two are looking good but it's not going to be the amount of money we all hope for but we won't know until the legislation time period after the 10th um like jennifer said once we know what the money is going to come in and we can take our
188budget from there all right uh thanks kate for the update appreciate it all right uh next is our student reps um i can start because i don't really have much um just the same um the usual of students are kind of looking and anticipating to what it's going to look like after the mask mandate is lifted um and i know that we're also looking and anticipating what it's going to look like so just trying to keep them updated and that communication going um and then also there are some conversations that are happening not like about sexual assault um we had the scarlet road presentation and workshop which i think was really really valuable we had about 45 students who attended and i think it was a really great opportunity to connect students with some really
189valuable resources and they offered to come back in the future on larger scales and and so we're very excited about that i also sat in on a conversation with the principal and some other students about equity which i think is another really important conversation that we need to be having centered around student voices particularly students of color so i think that's really important um and that's kind of happening there's another meeting coming up this week where they're going to just kind of sit and talk about student perspectives and how we can kind of engage and overall improve students experiences at our school um so that's what i have um yeah thank you so jimmy on the jesse sorry i'll be on the uh on this masking thing you said you kids were talking about that
190what was the general consensus is there any people looking forward to it are they nervous or they what's there i think that um to be honest i think that the general consensus is that people are really confused like they don't understand that there's like it's happening um it's like oh we're not going to have masks soon um so i think that i try to bring it up in a sense of you're allowed depending on what the kids of county health department decides you're allowed to choose um and like just maintain that like respectful um attitude but i think that a lot of what i've been hearing at least is that people don't really believe it if if almost like that's kind of like the uh okay the the feeling that i'm getting is i bring
191it up and they're like oh is that really happening um okay that's kind of what i feel um okay so we might need more some explainers then or something at the student level in addition to the stuff that goes to parents of course yeah and i tried i i um did a wtv broadcast um after last meeting just announcing that um governor insula's initial um statement and so i think that kind of started the conversation um but again that was still very like early so but i i'm also going to do another wtv announcement tomorrow um so that's kind of happening but i think definitely resources and communication and just like having really clear um because i mean even in our meeting it sounds like our directors aren't even on the same page of how
192this is going to look moving forward which is totally valid we're we're waiting for direction um but like what decisions teachers can make like i think that students might have a misinterpretation of like who has the power to make those decisions and i think that um just clear communication is really going to help them um yeah and i think i think what i heard at least what i heard so far from the governor i watched the press conference and i read the thing that that individuals will have the choice to mask or not and we want to preserve that i think for teachers and students that's my understanding is that it would be at the individual level barring any health you know health department things which i don't i don't think is going to happen
193but um anyway that's my understanding anyway thanks thanks thanks jesse of course hi i have a lot of event news um so mamma mia is opening this week so um the fourth fifth and sixth i believe so this weekend and next weekend is mamma mia tickets do have to be purchased in advance it's bitly um bit.ly slash skhs events um you buy the tickets there they're $10 and there's also an event happening on march 12th that's a saturday from one to three p.m that's our asl spring festival so it's asl students um from all the levels we have so it's all one two and three students um we're going to have events so we're going to like have hand painting we're going to be selling merchandise um and it's kind of like a science but
194you know with asl and asl1 students are sharing signs based on a topic of their choice asl2 students are doing a famous deaf person or deaf celebrity and information about them their work their art etc and then asl3 students are doing a presentation on number one sorry interruption there um are doing a um presentation on careers that use asl um it's a very um big event and it's a great all ages opportunity for learning and i'm very excited and i'm looking forward to that um i'm going to have a lot of involvement in that as i am asl club president and so that's a club and classes event it's very exciting all right awesome thanks concrete update appreciating all right uh next we'll go to board updates and linkages uh for the sake of time
195i'm going to pass on mine um anyone who let's go next with their update let's take volunteers jeff go ahead just real quick uh when are we talking about meeting in person i think we should uh talk about that at the next board meeting since uh and then talk about going forward i think that'd be a great time to do it that's my opinion that's all i got who's next okay thanks john brian kate i i promise to be quick just just i already kind of reiterated about a conversation i've had earlier but i've had similar conversations there's confusion as far as the mass people want to be in you know compliance with it and all that so i know information is coming out and that's what i tell them is that when when we
196as a district able to sort that out it'll come out all right thank you um kate did you have anything else besides your your legislative okay all right thank you very much uh all right now we're moving to the superintendent consent agenda any clarifying questions on these items before we vote uh jack yeah i've got some so uh on the certificated uh the out of endorsement page uh once again is this information going to parents that they know that their child's teacher is teaching out of endorsement in some cases yes and in some cases no okay on the classified the salary for west stem people do we pay that or does west stem pay that all those positions are funded through the west sound stem network okay this comes under our heading there yes yep
197a lot of resignations mid-year do we uh and for the last couple of months uh or reports are are we looking at why we're having resignations during the middle of the year instead of the end of the year yes we track all those and uh we are aware of why those are happening and and uh like i said aware of kind of what's going on there okay on the donations uh well i appreciate the the donation is there a problem with the fast pitch and getting funding their equipment so they can play nope not that i'm aware of okay so it's just uh somebody giving us more more stuff okay and the last one uh what can you tell me about this uh this inner district agreement uh is this a new need so the
198if you see the fine print on board docs it mentions um that an incoming student was evaluated by our south kids have special services team and the determination was made that it was in the best interest of the student to continue placement at real life so what that says to me is this student came to us from a different district but was participating as a student at real life and so the agreement was to have that student continue there in their best interest so is real life in puallup believe it is in puallup yes so are we responsible for the transportation for this student back and forth to school each day yes okay and then it said it gave you two options to fund uh obviously if you fund for a year it's only 66
199000 and if you don't it's a little bit more which did you choose i didn't have that question ahead of time so i don't know the answer to that ralph top my head yeah i couldn't get all of them to you but jeff i can get that answer to you tomorrow it's okay i just uh i'm just wondering whether we have more students at 66 000 a student and then and then we're paying for transportation to puallup uh it's a long way to puallup which means we're consuming a person each day obviously the right thing to do but it's still uh it's still a uh a uh resource that the that the district needs to absorb so that's all i had so i just got a text we just paid for one year okay so
200so we went in paid for the whole year okay that's all i needed thank you any other questions on the superintendent consent agenda i see nine let's move to the vote those in favor of approving the student superintendent's consent agenda please raise your hand now and say aye aye aye those opposed please raise your hand and say nay district five is opposed all right the ayes have it the superintendent's consent agenda is approved next we move on to the board consent agenda any clarifying questions on here we just have the minutes and then we have the second reading of the imc which we covered last time the first reading any other question any questions on these items well my only question is as far as it goes is those curriculums are now available in the
201blue room and uh i have uh after reviewing the curriculum i've changed my mind on that uh it's very preachy curriculum uh for example it says say no to drugs due to harmful effects on the body we live in a community full of pot shops so i'm not sure how kids reconcile that and then it says uh kids are to say no to harmful effects on the body uh to alcohol due to effects on the body and then once again i'm not sure uh preaching to this is out of the first grade book uh telling uh reacting when their parents are having a glass of wine at dinner and then i showed mr winter uh one of the pages in the teacher's manual about body parts in detail uh i would not leave that uh
202teacher's guide on your desk uh that is not something that uh needs to get out and uh i just have concerns uh now and then there was a discussion uh it didn't affect k through three and there are certainly books for kk and then one two and three and i happen to be at first grade right now so i haven't gotten the other curriculums now so i'm i'm not going to support this anymore because i i don't know how a first grader can reconcile some of the messages that are uh contained in this uh curriculum that's all i have all right thanks any other questions about the consent agenda seeing none we'll move to vote are those in favor of adopting the board consent agenda please raise your hand now and say aye aye those
203opposed please raise your hand now and say nay district five is opposed thank you very much the ayes have it the board consent agenda is approved next we have a district policy review 10.01 i think it's just replace it's just replacing some obsolete verbiage with some new verbiage tim could you give us two sentences on that yep so exactly what that is so was has eliminated um policy 43 30 and they put that into 43 20 so um it's same language same um same meaning just in a different policy so are these this is policy that you that the district controls are doing to vote on changing it so these are district policies that that um our our policies say the board will approve all policies and okay um our our thought is we would
204put first draft first reading in um the district policy review and the second reading would be in the consent agenda at the next meeting very good discussion on this item any questions or concerns uh seeing none then uh we just move to the next item right we don't need anything today right first reading yep all right very good okay so now we're on to the next question oh the john you have a proposal or a question sorry yes i i moved to postpone 11.01 governance cultures and policies and bylaws to postpone that to our next meeting and make it a special order right after adopting the agenda uh yeah so we can close that one out right i mean that's the intent i think that that makes a lot of sense to me given where
205we are tonight and with some other stuff um let's see let's put that up for a vote if any other discussion sorry those in favor of a post for postponing the uh our our board's policy discussion um until next meeting and then having it right up top uh please raise your hand now and say aye aye those opposed please raise your hand now say nay the ayes have it we will postpone that one thank you for that suggestion john excellent idea next we're to the seiu bargaining collective bargaining there was a lot of material there tim could you give us a just a brief uh a view of the process and maybe the bottom line uh in percentage terms i know i saw dollar terms about what kind of a overall uh raise this was
206yes i'm going to ask jennifer um to come back on the screen uh she and andy rogers were the um the lead support on this and so i'm going to have her um provide those answers for us oh great thank you yes good evening again board i will endeavor to be quick i know it is a long meeting for you but i do want to talk about the seiu collective bargaining agreement with you tonight and i think it's important that we start with understanding what staff we are talking about so it commences with uh the day starting with bus drivers um they can set the tone for the school day for students they have dispatchers helping them get around and driver trainers that get them behind the seats of that buses they arrive at schools
207that are maintained by our journeyman grounds facilities helpers to keep them safe warm and dry we have learning materials and food delivered by our couriers and our warehouse staff they are served a nutritious and delicious breakfast and lunch by our cook bakers and helpers they work on computers that are on networks that are supported by our computer technicians and our buildings are kept clean and safe by the custodians and the laundry person who processes all of our student uniforms and other services aprons and things this group was also most impacted by the pandemic they were right back to work we had food programs going i think two days after the original shutdown they were also most impacted by furloughs along with some of our psc members so they are an important team in meeting our
208top five plan tonight before you is a new three-year contract with seiu the parameters that we had presented to the board included that we would have open clear communications with our union we would achieve a multi-year agreement so that we knew how to budget going forward we would have fair and consistent salaries and practices that aligned with local market competition and it would be within financial parameters that the district could sustain some highlights of the new contract there are wage adjustments to be competitive in some cells we are the most competitive but in most and in the areas where we have the most employees we are probably top third not top one there's longevity in in this contract to reward loyalty there's also professional development so that these workers can have an opportunity to go
209get some professional development to reach their career goals the financial impact of this contract it is within the current year's already approved budget we had allocated resources for this bargain the future costs are now known and can be planned for in future budgets you wanted to know in the intro what an overall percentage was we each area got a different percentage but the overall was 4.1 percent which includes the 2 percent ipd we received from the state for this year so 4.1 total so i would just like to excuse me take a moment to thank this bargaining team my partner andy rogers and i along with the rest of the district team and the seiu team it was a lengthy bargain it was sometimes difficult but it was a pleasure to work with all of
210them and if there are any questions or concerns i would be happy to address them so how much did you say that the state chipped in so the state ipd for this current budget year was two percent and the pay raise was four percent 4.1 as an average total okay all right well thanks for yeah letting me know that i know that with inflation being very high and you know the i know that the federal cola for social security was 5.9 so i think you know to me coming in under that substantially is a pretty seems like a pretty fair result let me make a comment on that as long as you're going to bring up social security since i collected yeah it was that and then my medicare or my medicare premiums went up
21115 so the net loss was nine percent and anybody on social security can verify that so while the headlines are telling you we got this great raise we all lost nine percent due to the 15 change in medicare things so things are not as they sound on the news yeah well i understand yeah i mean inflation's at a 30 year high so even at 5.9 obviously costs many costs are going up gasoline housing and medicare turns out so i have a few more years till i hit that but i'll be i'll be right with you there soon any questions comments yeah i have no questions but i have some comments okay so folks there just isn't any other way to say this and it's been going on for years but all of the those of
212you that have been here a long time you know how this game gets played sadly we are not one school district in this whole area but we are a combination that are all within easy driving okay i understand that everybody wants more money and i agree 110 that everybody deserves more money but that's a state issue that i can't fix all right but all we do is for years i've watched everybody go around and we make the rounds of six or seven districts they raise their we raise ours they raise theirs we raise theirs and it goes around i made the same comments when we did the the teachers this cannot continue forever folks the taxpayer is not going to pay forever for raises above i wish they would but there's a reason why we
213haven't upgraded our facilities in 30 years and some of our facilities are 70 many taxpayers will pay one or the other but they're not going to pay both so i'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news and everybody will misconstrue my comments and they'll be all over john bird's website but the answer is you can't continually get two percent from the state and pay four percent and remain a going concern especially when we have many more employees than quote were authorized and i don't want to debate that i'm just saying you can see that it's not going to work in the long term so i'm sorry for all my friends and the people that i work with and support especially the food service and the transportation folks but somebody has to say it this
214can't go forever and if you continue to do it this just not going to work if we go into a high inflationary period everybody else is going to pull back and we're not going to get the support from the community we need so all i'm going to say is we can't continue to do this forever the other unions will be right in behind you and we'll just continue this spiral on and on and on thank you jennifer uh just quickly in these documents my understanding is that the uh the total amount uh that is we're talking about is 300 and what 360 359 or something like that for the first year the calculated amount for the first year on salaries is there there there are other portions of the contract that trigger dollars but i
215thought that was the most and that that amount was budgeted for and approved by the the board prior for this budget year so we actually made room for that or a bigger room for that in the budget isn't that correct yes it's an important part of our budget process that we acknowledge the existing collective bargaining agreements and plan ahead for what we see coming right and you came in under what that budget was right yeah or what the yeah very good okay thank you very much that satisfies all my questions anybody else questions for jennifer yeah brian you're on mute i think there you go oh sorry about that i'm sorry about that i'm still learning how to use zoom on the phone here um i i just i just want to make a statement
216um in that there's no more important resource than our than our staff and within reason taking care of them supporting them you know i think staff and the people we have are more important than any textbook any material any desk any any you know that type of thing so um i i think this is a fair agreement everybody that you know the negotiation team from both sides are supportive of it and i think that's fantastic i agree with what brian just said you know without them we don't get what we need for our students so yeah it's so and the fact that i didn't realize that it had already been in the budget thought it through jennifer you guys and your crew are fabulous i have so much to learn from you all someday i'll
217spend and get what one percent of what you do but uh yeah i agree i'm with this too and my final comment here will be uh i understand what we're doing and i don't disagree with what everybody's said but i'll be very interesting interested to see what comes up around the first may okay uh john any thoughts for me i'm sorry did you have any questions or comments no all right so that uh i think we that takes us to a vote on this this contract we're ready for a vote looks that way okay so uh those in favor of approving the new sei collective bargaining agreement uh please raise your hand now and say aye aye those opposed please raise your hand now and say nay i'm sorry my friends district five votes no
218i'm sorry all right the eyes have it uh the seiu collective bargaining agreement has been passed thank you jennifer thank you seiu thank you team for your continued hard work and your your much deserved increases so thank you very much all right uh this takes us to the the last item on the agenda which is the facility planning next steps i just wanted to briefly um just kind of touch on what we heard uh this last week it was a really fascinating meeting there was a lot of data there i wish we could have spent three times as as much time there um even though we don't like long meetings but what i heard definitely was a sense of urgency i heard that 50 of our buildings need immediate replacement or a major uh overhaul
219and so and i also heard that that group was looking for direction so uh i think that my my take would be and i want to hear from all of you as well is that we ought to come together very soon in the next week or so hopefully have a special meeting talk about what our principles would be going forward so that we can say hey this is kind of what we're looking for and then also perhaps ask them to come back with some options i know we talked about different uh dollar amounts and so forth but that would be my point is that we we need to give that team some direction to move forward because if we want to put anything on the ballot at all you know by um by november we
220really need to be done by mid july ish uh so that because that's going in august whether it's a levy or bond or anything and we're facing a uh a funding cliff here if we don't have something in by that time so that's my two cents what are your thoughts brian um i i agree with you um what i would like to be able to see at when we do get together is um i want to say ballpark but i want closer than ballpark as far as what what some of these um would cost in today's dollars and in projection forward as far as that and that's that's a crystal ball type of thing but i think that we need to know um the costs i mean back back in the early 90s when i
221was first principal at south colby and we had a had a replacement back then um a new building was somewhere in the in the realm of eight million dollars well i know that it's three probably four times that now um and again i'm no expert on that but that's what i've heard from other districts and things built building some of these so having the dollar amount may not may should help us a little bit as far as how we package all that together there's a lot to to discuss besides that but that's i think that's an important key as far as looking at what they have prioritized and dollar amounts and how we move forward and give them more direction thank you so and so like an elementary school cost x and a middle school
222cost y just roughly speaking right yeah okay john did you your hand is up i don't know if that's from before so yeah when uh question for kim when we have the results of the thought exchange survey on facilities this first one amy is i think it's is it early next week that we've we've put that as a closing deadline it closes on the sixth and so we'll have their results really is monday and i'll give them to the committee on uh next thursday okay so i i think we have a more fruitful discussion uh if we have that after we have the results of the thought exchange survey okay when i'm sorry i missed i missed that update there when is it done amy i'm sorry i blew that oh sorry about that um
223the survey closes sunday and sunday yeah okay so if we could get yeah if we could get together this is my thought maybe uh next week then but that would be my put if i don't know if wednesday works for people i would i think it'd be great if we could spend maybe a two-hour walk for a working session just to kind of talk this stuff through and see if we can give them the the committee some some parameters to move forward with if they do we want the committee to have the the results of that thought exchange first because they won't get it till thursday or does that matter they they will have access to the results um we can get those to them early next week if we need to i mean monday
224okay time yeah we can get those okay yeah and perhaps we can invite um i don't know i mean we could invite lee or somebody else from the team too if just to talk this through if we need to say what you know what rather than sticking through all of the data to answer questions i don't know if that's a good idea or not but um anyway i'd like to get together and spend some dedicated time on this just to give them some direction so that we can continue to move forward on this i it's it's a crisis and i don't think we can continue to to sleep through this situation so are you talking about a special meeting on the 9th of march um that's next wednesday yeah i am i am talking about
225that if that's the date yes the night okay is the facilities committee meeting on the 10th i'm not sure yeah amy do you know her team yeah yeah so we'd be so we'd be meeting discussing before the facility yeah so we could give them some direction right because that's what they asked us for okay could i does that work go ahead i was gonna say lee has his hand up as an attendee i'm just wondering if there's yeah let's put him on i just wonder if there's value in in crashing their media again next thursday i don't i don't want to speak for them but um amy could you move lee over just for a second so he could respond just the man of the hour must have heard you must have heard us your
226name come up lee yeah hey i'm not sure if you can hear me or not excellent thank you um yeah boy i love the um comments i'm hearing um and i love the idea of getting back together i think that would be appropriate um i saw the thought exchange and i've offered uh my comments as well as my um you know uh assessment on each one there's some fascinating comments there i thank you amy for getting that rolling i urge you all to look at the comments and i'm going to urge my team to kind of come prepared having read all the comments uh so that we're it's it's a challenging thing to kind of try to summarize so i think you just have to read it right to really get a sense for it
227um brian your comment uh needing um ballpark costs i i agree and actually we're preparing those uh uh immediately uh so that we can um include those in some valid options if the board is interested we would be more than happy to have you back on thursday night to be honest with you i think that would probably be the most efficient use of time and you'd have you'd have us all at your disposal for participating and giving input i to me that just makes more sense than trying to have an extra i mean that works for me if that if that's saves time we'd be we'd be happy to have you um i'll be honest with you our agenda is to prepare uh some baseline recommendations for you so why don't you just listen in
228and hear them firsthand um okay that sounds good for me does that work for reals go ahead john yeah the at the last uh at the last meeting with the facilities committee we heard a lot from the facilities committee but we didn't hear much from the board agreed the facilities committee wanted more more input from the board and in this having it having us join them at their next meeting next week will provide the opportunity for the board to give more input into the committee excellent i look forward to that i think that might be a good plan i i hope you can all attend as well as the student representatives i'd love to have you as part of that as well so great well if that works for everybody um then i'd say let's
229do that as a plan i just as long as we get back that we give them our inputs that's really what i'm most concerned for and i'm i'm really excited to dig into those uh those comments on on the forum and as the start of uh um you know our community input to this as well all right so let's uh let's plan on that and then uh we'll just need to get a quorum notice and i think um robbie can help us out with that and so since we'll all be there so all right well thank you everyone thank you thanks lee thanks team all right so i think we've uh i think we've uh made it to the end of the agenda and i think pretty well any closing thoughts before we call it
230a night okay hearing none uh thank you all for your time this evening i know it was a long one but uh really meaty and great thank you so much and we'll see you all at the facilities committee next week night everybody thank you