001thank you right and no Miranda today she's on she's in traffic all [Music] right the September 18th 2024 study session is called to order director Murray King Foster tror here and director Evans is running a little late will be here shortly we hope um you have the agenda before you for the September 18th 2024 study session is there a motion to approve the agenda for the September 18 2024 stud session second move by director King seconded by director Murray all those in favor say I I oppose say no okay the agenda has been approved all right so we have a number of items to discuss there you want me to just hand it over to you to go through those or I'm happy to do that all right thank you we have something new is
002this just yes so at your desk you have um an emergency position that came through um late this morning so feel free to take a look at that and we will also discuss it um but it's it's pretty it it's nothing huge it's not like Pages what's the recommendation this um I would believe but that's for us to decide because it because it's an emergency position you don't get a chance to we don't get a chance for the Committees to have any to buy in on it or give us recommendation so so General assembly there's there's a couple of different things that we talk about during General Assembly um we have permanent positions which are really kind of W's core uh principles on issues and widespread concern for students um membership and other education organizations
003and general public permanent positions represent W's beliefs and values and so when we're going through um The General assembly handbook um these positions are the ones that are really kind of driving the work of w St so when you're thinking about when it talks about talking about the involvement in the community and different things that isn't specific to Stan communo School District that is at a much bigger picture um in regards to BDA in the overall um all of the different districts within the state Washington the other um type of position is a legislative position um which is a a particular Viewpoint or stance on um on a spectrum of state and local legislative issues they are action oriented and articulate desire legislative outcomes on behalf of the state's public school system so um so
004when you're thinking about just keep those things in your mind when we're going through um the different positions um so Miranda a moment so the very first thing was the consent agenda did everyone get a chance to look at that consent agenda and I'm happy to discuss that a little bit it does come with a legislative committee recommendation to do pass and um roughly basically it it is covering multiple different types of funding sources that we could be having to advocate for in the state legislature so um unless there is a reason that someone has to um pull any particular item off of there we would recom make the recommendation um to support all of the different types of funding sources for advocation we have consensus on the consent agenda there okay forget I can't
005vote going by consensus here so the next the next area in the in this is the bylaws um bylaws kind of are of course governing pieces for wasda and so um the first one is is [Music] um might be faster to go through category two and three because we're probably not going to have much discussion on those well we I need to know how I need to be voting for everything so if if everyone just wants to go down the list and tell me which one if we have consensus on all of them and then we can actually delve into the ones that we don't have consensus on [Music] um so um under bylaws number two do we have consensus here to do what are we agreeing to the recommendations of the wasda uh resolution
006and um legislative committee okay pass do not pass I would say no because we got 11 school districts on signed on to that and it goes to local control and unfunded mandate so I would think we'd want to look at that one more carefully okay um Al but you're speaking for yourself what about the rest of the board because it's consensus I'm a okay agree like okay so we will this is the same one that we had these are the same bylaws that were in our yes study session correct um like the changes to the bylaws this change the change to bylaw is is just on 19 it's underlined yeah uh so let's go to move on uh number 3A which is an amendment to the proposal for uh article 3 which is and they
007have no recommendation on [Music] that and so article article three is a recommendation if do not pass do we have consensus to agree with that and what did we do on 3A we didn't do anything because there was no recommendations so we have to talk about the amendment um this as I read it is an effort um on W's part to build out the student representative Network and so to create something more robust for our student reps to participate in at not only at at uh annual conference but other times throughout the year correct does this do anything in terms of getting a load on a district espocially a small one to increase what they were required to do for these are just voluntary opportunities for our student reps to mimic um kind of what
008board members do so they get to you know learn about how the legislature Works they get to learn about local control and these types of things um so they're more than just sort of token positions or but they don't get a vote oh they're not yeah and so is there any cost to the district for any of this stuff only if you chose to already bring like it whether you choose to bring your students to wda or not that would be the only cost the district yeah and some of the student representative um options are actually virtual so kids don't have to ask so I mean they're wanting really just build out the network and then include one student rep online actual l a board and committees to the ex possible I mean I don't
009their recommendation is to not pass it did you read the Russ now yeah sounds like they think it could be done without an amendment to the bylaw well I think it's more suitable for a policy or a procedure not a bylaw specifically is there um but what they did is in 3A is they gutted it and took out all the extra parts out so it basically 3A actually create just creates the space for the student raps and student voice how do the students get get picked and tells you to go to their policy right and then and then the board can work through policy and and and not um how are they chosen like how are these two how did they come about being here were they elected every every district is different I'm asking
010about these two were they elected or selected or how did these two the high school okay is elected by the ASB the student officer is the representative here and Lincoln Hill it was chosen by the principal last okay okay good good to know thank you so I guess the point is is do we uh I I can agree with their me personally I would agree with their do not pass recommendation I was my what about the amendment though that really just leaves a a placeholder it it strips everything out all of the extra details it allows the space for them to create that yeah they don't have a recommendation there but like I could be okay with like saying hey look at here's just our specific thing like our stance that we agree we have
011them and you should go to our policy and then they would create a policy I think that seems reasonable and to fit what a board would do so I I'm okay with 3A as well yeah okay well what about the rest of you if it's good for the students I'm all I so we're saying passing the amendment and not passing three so 3A would be a pass and 3A would be a do not pass so so we're saying we have consensus to vote Yes on the amendment and then no on the do not we'll be voting in a agement with the do not pass agreeable everybody three okay okay so moving on um so category one associate which is Association operations so this is number number four goals um comes with a recommendation of a
012do not pass discuss that a little bit more because it that I think went to local control unfunded mandates as well it um amend the proposed amendment uh removes the wasda leads in policy development to promotes safe secure and respectful learning environments for each and every student and replaces it with wasda advocates for to preserve local control for its members and opposes any and all legislation that infringes on local control or in an unfunded mandate feel like that's saying that regardless of what the thing is if it says those magic words they must vote for it and they don't get to use a lens of common sense or whatever it kind of ties their hand of reading what it actually says and saying if it has those magic words you must be for it that
013feels weird to me I would I would agree to do not pass on that yeah the committee rationale is the committee voted for a do not pass recommendation because the proposed added language limits the organizations's ability to Advocate using other member adopted positions and impedes advocacy efforts the imposed language would make many of the existing positions obsolete or null and void including legislative priorities the proposed removal of specific language is is about safe secure and respectful learning environments which are essential to student learning and success yeah I agree I can go along with [Music] that consensus do not pass that one I agree okay now I had a question on 58 is what was on the worksheet I don't think matches what their recommendation was I had a check mark for some reason so 5A
014is a proposed amendment to five so if you read five first which is on page 33 it says wasda Advocates to preserve local control for its membership and opposes any and all legislation that infringes on local control or is an unfunded mandate absolutely the reasoning behind the do not pass for number five is that the committee again voted to do not pass recommendation because a proposed language limit the organization's ability to Advocate using other member adopted positions and impedes advocacy efforts there was a proposed amendment to this which changes the language originally in written to wasda Advocates to preserve local control for its membership and opposes legislation that infringes on local control or unfunded mandates instead of using the word any and all what was there recommendation on the amendment there is do not pass
015I think that modified version sound pretty good the modified version just the amendment yeah have to cut the any and all but still leave in the wanting local control and uned Mand yeah any and all is kind of redundant yeah quite I mean I feel like it still ties people's hands it says that you like again like you have to vote for those regardless of what the item is or if it conflicts with other statements it says that you have to you have to agree with those based on that like and it makes it so you can't like every like you can't put a common sense to that because if it says those magic keywords you're required to vot what are the magic keywords local control an unfunded mandate well then but what position can
016be taken on those issues so like I think that you would like if it makes sense then you can vote for those and advocate for those but if it's something that would be detrimental to the safety or the whatever to the students then you would be able to vote no but if you have this if it's detrimental to safety or whatever you still wouldn't be able to vote no because you're saying I must vote Yes To those that's how I read these just say and it appears that's how wda reads those to say as well based on their recommendations they need to get the message that we don't want unfunded mandates right but we know Wason knows that we don't want unfunded mandates how do for that so where is that in Wass the policies
017otherwise so sometimes there are instances where unfunded mandates are tied to things that we need no to function Absolut I'm not in favor of that at all if they don't pay for it we're not paying for it absolutely not actually is was on that topic I'm a big hard no and I want local control Charlotte do you not want local control I think we talk I feel like we have local control so this is not the time for I don't feel that way so we're talking about five right now yeah and where else in the policies through out to these issues are these issues covered that lost his rep is it a permanent position of theirs or yeah it's already in the in the permanent position so it's not in this handbook but it's in
018their all of their paperwork in the their binder so both un unfund advantage and local control there's a overall position on those yes that would be our concerns against it same for wasda awsp and waso we're all in alignment of no unfunded mandates absolutely as long as that's their overall policy then okay their their recommendation was do not pass on five and then they said Do not pass the amendment as well correct this is a big deal so it's important well based on our understanding what we just said about the this is long-term policy of L to be as a position on those things that are not excessively restricted but appropriate to be overall against unfitted mandates and and uh for local control so so based on that understanding now I'm still trying to figure
019out why Charlotte doesn't want local control can you articulate that I'm not sure why we're having this conversation right now and it's not that I am saying that I don't want to V control okay well whatever I v I don't like the term local control because you believe local control is one thing I believe local control is something else well what do you believe it is and it doesn't matter what I believe okay well I'm a hard no I want all of control and the rest and I want no fun unfunded mandates I brought that up last March and you would you didn't bother to read it but here we are again all right stay on five and 5A here um so we hear you want to know on five I think the rest of
020us are okay with the do not pass I am okay with the do not pass and based on the my understanding of this is already lost the positions that that's that's a key thing so we don't need this in addition we're actually doing the bylaws here so it's important that okay so we're going with a do not pass on five and then on the amendment are we taking their recommendation for do not pass I agree 5 58 on that so five a and five both are do not pass then yes okay thank you so number six is um Amendment proposal in regards to the wet Equity statement you know I have one other question when would a good time to talk to you about that be okay or is that I mean I'm just wondering
021because i' love that we are talking about General Assembly right now don't me Charlotte okay thank you come on let's stay on task here we've got a lot of things to get through and three hours to do it okay we're down to number six is that it correct uh I agree with their recommendation it is the equity statement I don't know why you would take those words out of the equity statement doesn't so who proposed that and what was their rationale for it um bun of districts well it says the original position suggests we have discriminatory practices and prejudges thank you in our education system so we remove some language and replace it with personal characteristics which interestingly is not the word it circumstances so there's that would might be one reason for they do
022not pass because there's an [Music] inconsistency and they believe that it's not uh an appropriate substitution for the existing language so do we have consensus that to take the recommendation to do not pass number six check that off so category two Capital facilities and school [Music] construction this act this one has a uh D pass recommendation from the resolutions committee um it adds that wasda believes that safe and healthy schools that the that support high quality teaching and learning are foundational to basic education financing school facilities is a partnership between the state and local districts the state's fiary responsibility must be adequate to support mandated initiatives I agree I think this goes to your unfunded mandates that's that healthy buildings thing and telling them if you want us to make all these changes to our
023buildings we need to provide us funding for that so I agree with the pass on that okay consensus on S all right 8 a they have no recommendation on that it is uh there's an amendment to an amend uh to an amendment so which one do you want to tackle first so let's let's jump to eight first um so the the language feel backwards to me the way they have them numbered like on the pages like I was trying to read through it and I was like this this hurts my brain like why is this one first 8 a should go after eight match the squares I like like why what's happening 8 a should go after eight like what's going on that's not just me so this does come with uh this is climate
024impact mitigation assistance and this does come with a due pass from the legislative committee and and so basically it is striking out um it says funding to help district switch from petroleum powered vehicle fleets to and it has stricken out electric to replace it with zero emission vehicle fleets um informed by environmental impact studies including Vehicles related related infrastructure and management Serv services and Workforce Development for drivers mechanics and other support Personnel it also um removes let's see it says funding to help districts replace petroleum or natural gas based building Heating and cooking systems with electric versions I'm completely against that um just technical support for these projects in the form of state funded cons Consulting assistance in transitioning to zero emission Vehicles Green Building practices Energy Efficiency and climate resiliency operations um so that's
025two the point the laws disposition so legislature has said like we have to go to zero emission Vehicles by such and such date and all but we don't have to agree do we this we don't it does we don't get to agree or disagree legislature says that we have to do that just like our clean buildings what these are saying is we're telling them if you're telling us we have to do this we need you to help us fund it okay or fund it completely yeah yeah so this is yeah this is the I'm just yeah I'm just trying to so this is the funding mechanism of like you've already said we have to do this which okay yeah sure maybe yes or no but if you're tell us we have to do this by
0262035 or whatever that that date is we need you to give us the money to do that because we don't have the resources perfect I think it's a great position and this is adding because I think before it just talked about the actual Vehicles themselves this talks about the infrastructure the training look expensive are kiding me natural gas is so much more efficient yeah so I think that this piece is just like hey we want the funding not only for the actual bus itself but like if I have to put in charging stations and I have to train my mechanics how to work on see that ever happening but it's good that we put the C so I think that's for me this is a I agree with the past yeah um because that's how
027I read that in Charlotte you can correct me if I'm wrong yeah it it is exactly that and the difference between the First Amendment and the Second Amendment is that they talk about Ren they make reference to electric or renewable as an example geothermal version as well and it also takes out the informed by environmental impact studies um FIB the amendment yeah so okay it just broadens it a little bit doesn't have to be could be geothermal or yeah correct I like broadening the options especially because some of those well and there're so many and the reason that they're they're striking the environmental impact study piece is additional environment Al impact studies are not necessary to further justify conversions to zero emissions fle fleets so you know why would we spend money on that when
028we could be spending the money on actually doing the updates is essentially what they pass we have consensus on eight as they pass yes 8 a yeah 8A is the better version of eight I think that you have to you have to approve one and then you can choose to approve the next am do broad there are a lot of these that have a um amendment to you go back to yes so okay just so you know consider them together well and that's why I'm been kind of we're talking through them together we start with the the initial which is nine and it comes with a due pass Andy to see where is okay so says was shall init initiate and or support legislation that establishes an ongoing sustainable and reliable source in system of
029funding for safe healthy and contemporary school buildings to achieve this level of funding the legislature should consider and the parts that are changed is develop a new school construction funding model that accounts for the total project cost including but not limiting to property acquisition design and Engineering fees permitting life life cycle cost analysis and building commissioning like the added of Permitting and stuff like that that's gotten crazy expensive and then it also adds any unclaimed School construction assistance program funding at the end of the fiscal year shall not be reallocated oh so if you save money you get to keep it and these other way better than previous isn't it if you didn't spend it you didn't get it back it's i f that in my college Department spended elusive the burn money yeah ex
030I like a work like that yeah I like the idea changing of changing the funding formula and we all know that their formula is definitely older uh and it it's not reasonable so I I like the idea of pushing for an updated funding formula that equates the entire process of building not just the wood and nails that it takes to put into the building you know I I appreciate broadening that spectrum and again if you save money in the process you're not punishing yourself by having to give money back you get to use that for maybe other capital projects that you could something for the kid or it has to be capital projects it does have to be it would have to be capital projects I believe and you can do maintenance with that money
031to I you sure can MH so we have consensus on nine and the pass so and it yes n and 9A so well 9A adds reimbursement for the sales tax receipts and zero tax on Native reservations for all construction projects if you're on native land yes because like the yaka yeah uh reservation they're required to pay tax for any construction I'm all for helping our people over here first to build their own schools I understand so we have consensus on nine day [Music] good 51 and 48 so 10 and 108 I believe this one is similar in the sense that they added the zero tax on Native reservation for construction project between the two and then um the actual so this [Music] added providing flexibility for school districts that have a voter approved Capital lby
032to issue non voted bonds for the purpose of constructing new buildings non voted bonds was that so the fire department yeah the fire department can do that they can do non-voter bonds like that's how they built that uh training facility like North County did is they more like a levy I mean it's a bond but they didn't have they didn't get voter approval on it they like a cap and they didn't have to go up for voter approval certain level that's doesn't require the vo appr now you have to have a voter approved Capital Levy yes in order to be able to do that M so like we currently wouldn't qualify because we don't have a capital Levy currently past the other and I can see where that might be helpful let say we went
033out for a Lobby we got the capital ly to build the building and say something happen and we it took us longer to build the building and during that time maybe inflation hits and things end up costing more so this would be an Avenue for us to be able to still complete the construction and um it's not recommended as the a to build a building however right and I don't think that we're NE I don't think they're necessarily advocating for that but I think where I think there's the strug the biggest struggle is with our small districts not so much you know because we're considered a midsize District but small districts have troubles getting getting uh levies and bonds passed because of their small population some of those districts have you know their schools have
034in significant disrepair they can't pass and and their buildings are no longer safe um and they need an Avenue so maybe try to not a super majority would be so great um so how do we feel about 10 and 10 a I I pass I consensus pass back to 48 yeah and so now we have 11 and 11 a so on some of these you will see this consistently throughout the packet we I think was and many of us that have been participating in in advocacy work um have decided that using the the the term ample fund amply fund is a little more powerful in language versus just just funding yeah I I agree that's like saying here's $20 for your month of groceries well we funded you yeah don't just fund education but amply
035fund education so that is the change um in 11 and 11a looks like in 11a they they added also the zero tax zero tax yeah I say thumbs up consensus to pass both 11 and 118 okay so and this is a new proposal and it does come with a a legislative committee recommendation to do pass and this is in regards to the clean buildings act complaints that we have been mandated to do um to your discussion Point Betsy this is about holding the legislature accountable for an unfunded mandate right on can I ask a question I understand that that that for some money we took or I don't know but for some reason um the teachers don't get their refrigerators in their rooms anymore and and I think that they're not very happy I think
036that that is not very I think the teachers should get their refrigerators because it would look like an energy savings thing or something but if if I was in a room all day I would not want to have to have a community refrigerator so if this has something to do with that I'm just wondering I don't think so we're just on clean buildings and that has a because was like some kind of you get a discount if you take away their mic or their little refrigerators anyway just saying it's a tough act to meet so this clean building is not Mak me UND dirty but it's probably anding them energy efficient to a certain level of efficiency by C this was referred to in some of the other amendments that we already talked about but
037if you read their rationale it says that they like the way that this is being pushed and the speed with which it's coming they feel like this needs extra advocacy so on top of the other amendments and changes that they're putting they think they need this one also and again this is another unfunded mandate situation that's what it's there is there's some funding but not nearly enough yeah adequate funding funding about full funding yes so this is like hey we want you to know that this is such a big deal that not only are we adding amendments and other portions we're creating a whole new section just about that to let you know how important it is is ample ambiguous should it be more specific actually no the what I the wording is fully fund
038fully fund okay yeah okay that's good that's good cuz who decides what's well the state fully fund something they pay about 80% of yeah that's like yeah one in fence is only anyway so how do we feel about 12 pass there good so funding and alloc Pati how do you define ample is there one I don't ample funding for high poverty schools well this is telling wda to Advocate and then the legisl can figure out how saying they're not doing their job this is North Seattle it goes from fully to [Music] ample who how do you put a number based upon student need how much money who so if if you kind sometimes when there's a a big edit or Amendment sometimes it's easier to go down and and look at the committee's rationale as
039to why they're saying do not pass and in this case that says the committee voted for a do not pass because they believe the current position is stronger in that the supporting not some planting language is important to retain which I will say I absolutely agree because it happens more times than that they'll say oh we're going to fund special ed but we're taking money from over here and that's good you know that so um so supporting NS of planting is definitely language I would I feel is necessary in in this proposal so I in agreeance that it's a do not pass question on the P 62 proposed amendments character there's a strike out what would it where was that strike out from it's not in the current position oh the strikeout is in the
040current position so the underlined is added language yeah and the strikeout is existing language so they're saying I see that yeah they're saying that they don't want to add the underline they want to stick with the stuff that's struck through I got it well it looks to me like they're striking the state role begins with fully funding basic education to it is the role of the state government to make ample provision and the recommendation is don't don't change change and consensus to do not pass 13 that makes sense definition of ample there you go that's what you're looking for right I bet we all believe that's something else considerably more than just adequate well it says wda believes that the word ample in article 9 section one of the Washington state constitution means fully sufficient
041and considerably more than just adequate consistent with the definition asserted by the Washington Supreme Court so I actually appreciate the fact that they took their own words out of their constitution and they're putting that in instead of like fully funded and like this is more than fully because it it's it's fully sufficient and like I I genuinely appreciate that that we said let's use a word that you've already because that was the whole thing with mcle it was fully funded and then the state got to Define fully funded so if we take and it was a onetime pH yeah so if we take that out and we use their own definition that they've already defined it as more than what they currently got I think that's fairly clever and I enjoy that so obviously this
042new position is a due pass and it is basically seeking a shared understanding of the definition of the word I like that crack and it's submitted by the Legislative committee so I appreciate their work as well so we have consensus on 14 to pass and number 15 is an amendment um this comes from Mount Vernon School District trying to remove some of the strings that come with yes so they're adding um besides providing ample flexible and equitable funding for programs and services for each student who is economically disadvantaged to close achievement and opportunity gaps is not Vern a high poverty District yes most likely that makes sense yes some districts um find that they actually have a hard time spending some of their monies from the state because they are overly restrictive and that's it
043disappointment when who's overly restricted oh well that's to bad yeah so they're wanting them to alleviate some of the need for collecting that that income data from families because there are a lot of families that don't want to like I know of families that would qualify for reduced um Sports pay to play and stuff like that and instead like they don't want to apply for that so they just don't have their children place sport which is sad to so I think that that's like reducing cultural things there as well working so you don't have to get as much information from families to provide that I think is positive I agree with I agree with pass pass consensus pass o Cola who doesn't love a cola so this is an amended proposal it talks about substitute
044Staffing need to support student learning and continue daily operations so basically um this is wanting again ample and Equitable funding for salaries benefits pension programs for minimum appropriate staff levels for following necessary functions for all districts so does this include a cola for pensions it it says the legislation should create and maintain a process for Statewide biannual review of and recommendations regarding Statewide Staffing salaries benefits pension allocations regionalization needs and cost of living adjustments which is your IDP Cola yeah well because California pension I have and I just got a notice from them but I finally got down to the 85% level therefore they're buffing in a little bit because of this Prov kind of provision on a year-by-year basis if it's available yes so simar watching that there's also a little piece in here
045about providing funding for substitute costs for individuals that are out on pfla which again leads into that unfunded mandate corre P paid family medical leave so if they go out on paid family medical leave we we're still paying them but no we also have to pay yeah we need to pay for their substitute too so there it's extra cost triple so the the reasons for Paid Family Medical Leave have expanded I assume that's mandate that we asking for funding for and in specifically for uh the cost of substitutes for individuals that are out on PF well that's the main cost of that family Le thing is the substitutes thing and the person on leave so are we in agree on this consens yes okay 17 class size reduction funding this comes with a d pass
046this is an amendment and again this is a language change so it's changing fully fund to amply fund and that is the only change I think you mentioned there was a supreme good decision on the the word ampoy and so can you review that more because that's significant I think it's so what what was that decision about and what was the context of that that affects so if you go back into that page it tells you so it's in the Constitution like the con St the state constitution defines it and then the Supreme Court held up that that is the definition of anle so already already there mhm yes so we're just instead of using fully which hindsight we let the state Define after McClary we're changing it to ample which they've already defined somewhere
047else as more than fully really I'm sorry or really fully yes yes and that did an offness come out of the G proba not the best place yes true so we have consensus on 17 pass yes so the next one has an amendment to an amendment so you have 18 and 18a oh which is your fiscal notes and unfunded mandates which comes from the legislative committee with a due pass it says wasda shall advocate for and or pursue litigation against the state when mandates are not fully funded that actually helps because that was whole part of the thing is like who's going to sue the state for the funding from M right like that was the problem with you had to have a district that was willing to step up and do that and they
048didn't have the money to do it so wda has the teeth to do that on their behalf that's a big change well then that would I'm assuming stall any unfunded mandate during litigation right so at the very least you could argue it multiple ways right interesting okay didn't seven districts have to get together yes and and like outside advocacy groups for funding it and stuff like that I mean that was a big orchestration to get that taken care of um another thing that's really good I don't know if you guys noticed or if you care but um wda got changed so that it's no longer a weighted vote so when we yeah we all get one vote yeah Seattle doesn't yeah they're not going to rule the anymore party is over everybody [Music] else I
049mean I'm I'm for that so 18a and um supports requiring that the legislature only progress K12 legislation out of committee for which an estimated fiscal impact has been determined including an estimate of represent to local cost of compliance fiscal notes from the representative districts around the state for any proposed state laws or administrative rules that would impact educational programs and services um which you would need to trigger litigation right yeah You' have to have a cost you would have to say that you're you would have to know what it cost before you could say it was unfunded and that's like I think that's how they've been getting around these unfunded men dates is they're just not putting a cost on it they're just saying this doesn't cost you anything do this for free even though
050comp you know what I mean like so I'm for 18 but I'm not for 18a and here's my rationale for why um as much as I appreciate the intent of what they're trying to do um it also hinders because it's basically saying that bills cannot move without that fiscal note it does say that they can't send it forward until they have a dollar amount associated with it correct shouldn't be so that means any legislation well if there is a fiscal piece to it nothing it's only K12 legislation yeah only K12 that's all of our legislation no no no I like yeah but why wouldn't you yeah I mean I guess I can see your argument but if there's truly no cost I'm just saying that in a short in in a short for example in
051a short session if you got a bill and you're trying to move it and get it in front of the other house you would have to do the leg work up front like you you would you would have to be more prepared in order to move that also forward I agree and also I think that we should still there should always be a fiscal note but if you're having to wait for that fiscal note and you're trying to get something done in a short session that really slows the process well I again should be prepared and uh also this it would seem like if that obstacle is not there this be a way to sneak us through what is not time to do the fisal therefore and I would say I would rather not have
052that I think to the point if you don't have the dollar amount attached to it sorry I've been sitting in a car for like four hours today um if you don't have a dollar amount attached to it to Dr rumba's Point how do you call it an unended mandate that you could potentially legislate against well we would show that we had you could come back and say okay this is what it costs and you didn't give us money for it what if during not to put down a rabbit hole but what if during the process of litigation costs go up drastically like we saw in 2020 2021 in the housing market that's not a here something about inflation escalator thing that relates to all of these that seem like there should be I mean I
053see your point Charlotte you're stalling a lot of legislation it's not like they're fast anyway but I I guess I could be persued well I like I said I am all for 18 because that really you know gives wda the ability to go after unfunded mandates on our behalf but at the same time I I feel like this is almost too restrictive and trying to get legislation because I've seen where legislation has gone through committee to the floor to the other house and in the process the fiscal note has caught up with it all so before it comes to a final vote of you in final approval the fiscal note does show up it's just that some if we're saying that it can't go anywhere can't move at all right yeah it can't go out
054a committee it can't it can't no one's eyes gets on sorry goad do we consider Bas SED not being fully funded as an unfunded mandate because I think about 19 not to get ahead but I wonder if like what happened with in the clear if that could not happen if there wasn't a fiscal note attached and that would be really hard to do to try to determ well what is the cost of basic education as an Aggregate and you need that number to file the suit so I think it could play both ways right but the money has to follow the cars right I mean I like to my point I think that I see your argument and I think that if it were worded better that the fiscal note is added before it's a
055final vote you know what I mean like I think that that would probably be more of what like it would still get to their point but you wouldn't stall all progress on it so I could see your argument there of and that's kind of you're not even like like you're not even letting the conversation happen while the other work is being done like you're not you're not being able to lay any groundw work and there's no live Amendment any longer yeah yeah okay I could I can agree with do not pass I could be persuaded current position it does require full funding for all costs but it doesn't say anything about identifying what that will be by before passage and the impact of those the cost yeah so that's a difference too but what in
056what in that keep something passing something without having a dollar a month so it seemed like getting before did it it should be dollar should information should be available to the committee I mean that would be the appropriate place to have the dollar amount figured out because that should be part of the committee's disc discussion um and uh and so but the way it is now it could go all the way to be passed good in law without a dollar amount attached even though they're obligated to pay whatever that amount is it's doesn't seem right sounds like we don't have enough information is there an abstain could abstain from that we we could vote for the initial and not take a vote on the amendment the amendment to the amendment can we amend that okay
057so [Music] we had consensus on passing 18 and we're just going to not vote or during General Assembly if you hear a valid argument that you think might swe us one way or the other we'll leave it up to you to vote do any discussion maybe throw in the inflation escalator concept that is part of funding especially for things that take a bunch of years we'll leave 188 up to you okay 19 full funding of basic education great so this comes with a due pass and what it's adding is Material supplies operating cost shall be increased in the funding of basic education so the MS that we talked about last session go up every freaking mon how theyed yeah and sock money yes and yeah so agree 19 a pass and this also is very
058specific to MSO funding it says do pass from the legislative committee so these enhancements may come by a regular increases recognizing inflationary costs with a required review by OSI every four years for actual costs as submitted by school districts or through the state becoming the responsible paye for operating costs such as but not limited to utilities insur and insurance costs additionally wasda supports a sales tax break for MSO cost for school District I think it's crazy that we pay sales tax like other state entities don't pay sales ta well nonprofits can get a waiver why can't yeah like I don't understand why we pay sales tax I've never understood why we unless you stop doing it sure like yeah so I mean I I agree cforia it was the same and I wanted why would
059be nice because that sign yeah impct on my budget want to do anymore yeah I would also love it if they started paying our utility bills you those are outrageous the sales tax on the high school yeah I mean that's the thing like I all that money sure sure yeah well I think the only I think maybe the the idea is that in some places the school district is the largest employ employers so we're helping feed the community through our sales tax that we expense so it's the they don't get to keep the sales tax either right like it goes back to the state like it just feel silly the city gets part of it yeah a little bit yeah I guess I don't know I don't know I'm just I I'm not I'm not
060I I am not for it but I'm just saying that it's I think that's the thought process behind some of it is well it's we didn't agree on this one Ruth would poke us on the track us down track us down poke our sanity so that's pass right I'm afraid to go to work tomorrow if we just know so 21 is um on AFC africanamerican study work group and it's a d pass um and this was submitted by uh spoking and inuring school districts um this is a new proposal um there was a work group um that came out with a report to um put together um next steps for the uh for inclusion area work around um adding to um social studies program um curriculum and so this is just emphasizing the fact that
061we spent the money on a work group to do this work we should be implementing the work that was recommended from the the work group think just pass otherwise why did we bother to do the work so this mandates new position we need to distri what this would say we need to prioritize funding to implement with the work group and the work group wants us to do establish new position in each district on this topic no that 76 the second yeah 75 and six it says requires districts to screen all K2 students for indicators of or area of weakness associated with dyslexia and to provide no sorry that's the wrong that's the wrong one this is similar to um STI since time in Memorial so getting a work group together to include native people's studies
062and social studies is it going to cost money know this is saying we want the legislature to prioritize money for this is what the work yeah if we've already done a work group on it we need to they pay for do well they no the work gr's already been done but but impl the state needs to implement or move forward with what to impl and the funding you mentioned Native Americans I think you said Native Americans yeah this is similar to STI okay so similar to that there's already that for that population yeah we have any other special population Focus things besides that and potentially this they're readings so 21 is a consensus to pass well in terms of prioritizing um to the compet above a lot of other stuff I think it's just to
063say hey we know you did this work group we want you to move forward but in the big in the big scheme of who knows where the priority is it's what other districts will say yeah and so basically it's just saying if you have an opportunity to elevate it please Elevate yeah like you did all of this work you spent all this money on this work group and this study like let's go ahead and we don't want you to forget you spent that money let's go ahead is this cutting in is this cutting into like Reading Writing and no this is not something else they have to learn I mean okay I don't oh bless you for telling me here I love you for that man I just got find sorry everyone okay you're good
064on consensus play the old lady card where is it it's 22 literacy this is a d house I read this is also a new proposal as says um wasda shall initiate and or support legislation that would provide ample and Equitable funding for districts to adopt and Implement evidence-based literacy acquisition practices curriculum screening and profession of the development across all grades the recommendation was to pass seems reasonable consensus on that that's the one about dyslexia that I was reading is it gone sister yes you're good um 23 is mental health supports and counseling access this is also a new position um so it's it's basically asking as to initiate and or support legislation that would provide ample and Equitable funding for on-site mental health counseling and school mental health therapy services staff professional development and peer
065support education to be prepared and able to respond to student mental health means issues and crisises and so just to kind of touch on that a little bit there isn't a lot of that funding in our system and we we get funding from the count both counties to help does County provide us funding nice so but we have counselors at every school yes yeah we have school counselors that sort of but gu counselors are not mental mental heal so do we have to hire somebody else so we have contracts with different entities that help provide those supports this is basically saying this needs to be a priority for our that's good amen so what training and counseling or of this mental health variety do the counselors have is there a minimum for that a minimum
066but their primary focus is guidance counseling um and One Track for graduation right right navigating sort of the the typical adolescent issues of high school but they're not trained Mental Health Counselors or therapists which interestingly families sometimes don't know the distinctions because counselor yeah yeah so this would ensure the state prioritizes funding for those individuals in addition to us and we have some retainer or contractor to fill in as needed yeah correct referred by the school counsel probably referred the school counsel then refer [Music] yeah so consensus on 23 Yes Man has been uh busy they submitted a lot of these uh yeah Sarah has been very busy yeah I see Shoreline up there a lot Washington so this is also a new proposal it's called tax re revenue for schools it says wasda shall
067initiate and or support legislation that ensures that new state revenue earmarked for Education will be additive to and cannot be used to supplement existing funding can't Rob from Peter to pay Paul you can't pull money from over here and say great news we gave you money yes that was an issue I agree I feel like that's a good idea consensus to pass pass let's not pass something now so number 25 is unfunded man dates this has a do not pass recommendation it says wda will not support any legislation that creates an unfunded mandate repetitive but it is important the rationale on the do not passes the legislative committee voted to do not pass because members had concerns that the proposal was duplicative with the existing fiscal notes and unfunded mandates legislation position and or created
068limitations for advocacy when other member adopted positions were relevant this is a little bit of a reflection of many districts having the same interests and putting proposals together that then get mixed up yes and conflated yes yeah I mean and I think that we've seen in enough of the other language that like unfunded mandates are high Ed everywhere else through out there I'm unsure that we be repetitive and it is restrictive the others also have more language then more of a description this is very short yes and also the proposals not support any legislation and all the other things where we' seen under mandates over and over and over again does that does that LE not through those things that thought talk about uned mandate do that cover all the bases there pretty we generic
069one yeah I got I think that there is a lot of the unfunded mandate language and many of these other proposals that we don't really need one that it specifically says this and I think that that is fairly vague to Dr rumal's point and like the other ones are more specific and I think the more specific language is probably in our favor than putting a vague statement out there that gives somebody else the opportunity to divide something for us again what be my thought hope oia would get the message you know it would be interesting maybe we could do some work on this next year um and put a proposal together defining unfunded mandates like the like the yeah I mean that wouldn't be terrible soor are we in consensus did you not pass yes
070I am yes we are on to governance category four we are at 6:15 uh president shriber do we want to take a bio break before we move on to category four please yes pleas okay oh the restro I drove here from fedal e e e you back on okay so we are moving on to category four which is governance and accountability to the community is number 26 and this is uh I do not pass recommendation from the resolutions committee and um the amendment was strictly to add an adoption of core instructional materials and um the rationale about the do not pass is the committee voted to do not pass recommendation because the proposed language is redundant giving existing La given existing law and is duplic duplicative to content in other member adopted positions it's already
071required by law how can they be against accountability of the community there's well I'm kidding they're not they're just saying we are there's only one District that signed on to that so are we in agreement for do not pass not pass I agree 27 accountability to community and fiscal responsibility this is a due p from murn in school district um this is a consolidation of our proposal so this is the first time we've seen this where everything so far has either been new or uh an amendment this is actually taking a couple of positions and consolidating them into one um so if you look at towards the bottom of the page that's the clean Consolidated position and it's called the clean it's called accountability to community and it says wasda believes that the districts should
072be accountable to their communities and students District level decisions regarding accountability should be authorized and monitored by local school boards in multiple areas such as continuous Improvement in student learning closing achievement and opportunity gaps and attainment of learning goals progress regarding reported excuse me progress reported regularly reported to the public responsibility or responsible for fiscal stewardship to Equitable to equ Equitable provide equitably okay get it yeah it's wordy wordy yes um provide a high quality education for all all students and then the safety of all students and staff so basically they're just saying like instead of two separate ones let's squish them together and make one basically I'm down for squishing are we on consensus on 27 then pass 27 to pass okay so 28 is addressing achievement and opportunity gaps and this is a
073do not pass um the only part of this that is amended um is the addition so they're adding race and Equity race and and the committee's rationale for do not pass is um committee considered the current language of comprehensive Equity policy to be inclusive of many different factors including race therefore the additional language was determined to be redundant given the existing position language and other existing positions that relate to the proposed language okay so basically duplication of efforts so you don't have to spell that out specifically because it's included yeah and it feels weird to specifically Define out one thing and not all of things so we have consensus to do not pass yep 29 decisionmaking process this is also recommended as a do not pass um the amendment is uh wda expects that school
074boards engage and involve staff students parents and community in decision making and it's crossed off the word when possible the board must maintain such auth Authority as needed to comply with state and federal law the rationale for the do not pass is the committee voted to do not pass because they believe that by removing when possible local Authority and flexibility are reduced as a representative government they encourage retaining the current position language I think you're taking away like in an emergency situation or something like that that says we have to make a decision right and you're saying like nope put the braks on and get a committee together and do all the things so I think yeah and I think we already have the legal right to hold an emergency meeting yeah and I think
075we do a pretty good like I think most districts do a pretty good job of engaging the community and if there were some reason that we weren't it would be necessary you know so I I I agree I don't know why we would strike that sort of wiggle room consensus to do not pass on 29 yes 30 on diversity this res this came from the resolution committee is a recommendation to do not pass um let's see uh the current position is wasda believes that diversity is an important and valuable part of the learning and work environments in our schools to this end School directors should adopt and periodically review the board policies which promote and protect diversity through the affirming the humanity of each person and supporting the safety dignity access belonging and success of
076all present and future students families and staff the revision is um that they would like to take out she believes that the that diversity of thought and perspective is is important and then um value and they've scratched pretty much everything else and are they for or against this this is a do not pass um and the reasoning for that is um the proposed revision too far is too far of a departure from the current position which was just amended in 2023 by replacing existing language describing diversity as exclusively thought and perspect as exclusively as thought and perspectives the committee Express so are we are we I don't want to protect diversity through affirming I don't want to do any of that so um I need to I need to understand I mean it's I'm not
077against it but I I'm not I don't think this a really good thing did you say what the propostion is going back to the 20 2023 policy well it says which was just amended in 2023 to the exact language it was amended to this in 2023 want to go back and that to what it was before 2023 okay because I think that part of diversity should be thoughts you know that that kind of thing because for example in thoughts and perspective a lot of universities there is no diversity in that regard zero and uh and so so that's mayf speciically proposed for next year is is adding the different Viewpoint Diversy to what's the now revised policy well I think you know in it states it here in this committee rationale that the concern is
078about removing positive language in the existing position such as affirming the humanity of each person um supporting the safety dignity access belonging and success like I don't think we should remove that no no saying and that's what they're that's what they're suggesting moment we'll go I would go with their recommendation but say put this on a list for next year to add to add to not strike out but just add in thoughts and perspectives yes I that's really important but it's the timing is bad for right now right but so like we wouldn't so do not pass this agree don't strike that language from it but potentially to Dr rumba's Point like maybe we would potentially craft of an amendment for next year that includes all of the existing language as well as thoughts and
079perspectives is your yes okay yeah so Al can you explain it to me like I'm a third grader no come on man but it sounds like we have consensus to do not pass 30 is that so 31 is titled Federal role this is again a do not pass from the resolutions committee and um so the current position states that wasda believes that public education is a federal state and local responsibility that ensures all students are provided the resources needed to become successful members of their Community the federal interest is served by supporting but not some planting state and local efforts federal agencies should avoid adopting or implementing rules rules and regulations that conflict with over or overreach State legislation that's the current position um the am the amendment is um it uh wda believes that
080the public education is a joint responsibility between federal state and local governments to ensure all students are provided the access and resources needed to meet established learning goals successful gra success successfully graduate from the pk12 level and be empowered to live fulfilling lives the federal government's role includes the responsibility determining what rights should be guaranteed to students within the US and the obligation to amplify and equitably fund any mandates established around enacting those rights um the reason this is language is stronger yeah very long wordy and empowered to live fulfill like sure like I would like to empower people to live fulfilling lives but I don't I don't know that that's the place to have that word Yeah so basically the rationale is do not pass recommendation because um proposed language reduces local Authority and
081removes supporting not supplanting language and the committee believes that the existing position language is stronger retaining board authority while still being being student center what's the planting it's whereing or move dollars from one place to the and get to say gave Morey so like that's what they did in the last one is they took money from one place oh but they don't tell you like they tell the public great news we are giving schools X percentage of additional dollars in whatever section it is but what they don't tell you is that that percentage came from our own Pockets it just came from that pocket instead of that taking it from one bucket to the other bucket yeah we're not actually getting any more money I got keep your eyes right that game that game I
082like to make a lot of money we just get to spend it differently right I play that my gods yeah okay so I believe we're consent consensus on 31 3 two local board adoption of core instructional materials resolution committee recommends du pass and this is just a simple changing uh citizen involvement to community involvement yeah why not so the purpose would be to involve non-citizens with they might feel excluded that's yeah be community members but yeah they might be noncitizens but they would be community members wait a minute I have to think about that I think that that's a great I'm okay okay so that was a pass okay uh 33 local Board of core instruction materials too lot of changes here this one is a do not pass um the current position is local
083board adoption of core instructional materials wda believes that policy providing for course design selection and Adoption of instructional materials is the responsibility of the local school board such policies shall provide for board adoption of core instruction materials the policy will also provide opportunities for staff parents and citizen involvement in in development and review of instructional materials and participate on District instructional materials committees the amendment is called local board control of instructional materials all instruction all all instructional materials wda believes that the responsibility of course design selection and Adoption of all instructional materials rest solely with the local school board local control will allow opportunities for staff parents students and Community involvement in development review and selection of M instructional materials and participation on District instructional material committees that's a lot of words me it's already
084in the law yes I think there the rationale down at the bottom is basically like the current position is crafted to be in alignment with the law and this new one is potentially has some differences that wouldn't align with the current law right I see the key point though is that this local adop thing is only for core destruction materials nothing else that's that's how I so that seems to be the main reason for the proposed amendment is it should not just be Court inters what should it be well more or less everything that's the law currently States core and then it allows teachers and principles to determine supplemental so for example if I'm teaching fifth graders and I feel like they need an additional worksheet for something in math the practicality of that being
085approved by the board and a local committee is not realistic so go back to uh principal Allen's presentation yesterday right so she's using the amplify curriculum which is the curriculum that we as the board approved based on our committee's recommendations right and she was saying that there are some students that potentially need additional support so she found supplemental things with like free online whatevers or additional whatever and and she's providing those to the students she wouldn't have the flexibility to provide those to individual students um if you changed this it would have she would have to come to us every time she wanted to add something to say like I think that this would help my students she would have to come to a committee and us every time she wanted to do that and
086so now how will it go then she'll just get it so if it makes sense it makes it easier for does it make it easier for the teacher 1% yes I'm all for it and it restricts a school from saying we're not going to use the materials the board adopted we're going to use these instead that would not be permitted yeah that's great if it helps the teachers I'm all in for sure I'm thinking though some of the most controversial Structural Materials here about Nationwide are not core an example right for example in the the uh the graphic things on sex for those are core so they're part of heal so the board would adopt those the definition core yeah who and who defined it core is defined as the primary instructional materials that are
087put in front of kids so we used to think of core as Reading Writing yeah that's yeah but now it's not about the content area it's about what's put in front of kids and is used as the Primary Learning material so this is a wide variety of subjects uh but just not the little supplemental things right anytime we're going to purchase something to put in front of kids that is that's the materials we use every day that's where the board weighs in the the supplemental pieces it would be like be agile in teacher skill to say oh I need an extra workbook for but we do want to keep an eye on what is used in court is what we adopted not something and for example required reading for some clients like in high school
088with that we just okay and we have a book Lister onine we have a a group of uh parents and teachers that do all of the like read all the books ahead of time and and discuss whether before they become a PRI reading do we not I don't know that they read them ahead of time but they're involved in the approval yeah I'm making a mess you must have hit the big cup button I apparently hit the road button true I wait for the medium cup little parado well this is good this is dinner do not pass cor right s some Sund okay 34 local local control and there's there's several in this uh this is just the first of a couple of different amendments and that's why there's a number one and it's not
089it's not in the case of where we're amending we've received one and it's keeps getting re amended this is there were several amendments that came that are similar so that's why there's a one there's a one two um I there was a third third one no yeah one two two and three so yeah well it looks like it's giving the school board more authority mean so 3 so 34 is in with a recommendation if do pass it says basically it added um that wasda believes local control is essential to public education therefore laws regulations and policies should be written to support the public election and authority of local school board directors um and then it comes down below and says allows directors and stop to address local student Equity issues is it included in um
090instead of being sensitive toage this is a pass worksh sheet says do not pass no 34 is a do pass 33 it says do not pass yeah so the recommendation from here it says do not pass of course do not that was reced pass yeah should it what is it 33 it's 34 okay so that's a do pass I'm sorry that was my bad it's kind of just not work thank you for all your work on this so um how do we feel about that are we in agreement if it's number 34 yeah we pass that 34 pass you going to go to 35 first before a yeah so 35 and uh changes let's see 96 okay yeah so 35 has um wda believes local control is essential to public education therefore laws regulations and
091policies should be written to support decision making of local school directors and Boards um so they crossed out public election in that sentence and made it decisionmaking and then down at the bottom it says local control should not allow for School District Board of Directors to decide whether to ban certain books or curriculum based on whether they include topics related to the roles and contributions of individuals or groups protected by anti-discrimination law um and then they changed them yes um and so the committee voted to do not pass because they were concerned about the removal of public election therefore diluting the local authority of school directors how do you feel I um this is a double negative I have to read it slowly I'm like what what are you trying to say to me not
092allow not allow School Board directors to decide whether to ban a textbook based on groups protect oh did they not recommend do not pass because they preferred public election language in Amendment yeah okay so I don't get to vote but I would say so I so yeah exactly and that's that's where I actually went with this too is yes I um I agreed to do not pass 135 the 35a was a yes I'm trying to understand that the underlying part local control should not allow for school SCH District Board of Directors to decide whether to ban certain textbooks so are they in favor of that or not I mean they don't want school boards to be able to ban a book well I think we should have the ability to I mean I don't wouldn't
093call it Banning books I think it should be age appropriate but it does use the word ban here so that's a distinction I don't go for that B I think it's a misnomer and it's we can make it age appropriate maybe going forward then our local policies allow people to question other there Alternatives yeah and and the thing is right now the parents my understanding is they have to op out if they don't want their kids to read this but they consider pornography I think we should change it so that if parents want their kids to read that they will op in because if they want their kids they should it should be reversed it should be less trouble for the Comm anyway that's something for future discussion but you know the majority doesn't I
094don't agree with wanting to see that for their kids so I I agree with their recommendation of do not pass amend but to do pass the amendment did they have a recommendation on 35a they don't I don't think they have they they don't have a recommendation on any of the Amendments amendments they don't come back before the committee yeah so we're do not pass on 35 and we're looking at passing 35a yes I believe so consensus [Music] M got 49 all right page 98 36 this is also a do not pass from the resolutions committee um again it's another is another local control this was the number three um and so the rationale behind this is do not pass recommendation because the proposed language changes the intent of the original position and the proposed additional
095never is very limiting and could be problematic to the organization in its capacity as a state agency and for school directors in adhering to their oath of office yes to back up to 358 is that adds local control shall not allow to ban certain textbooks or based on but they're going to say oh look they want to B books so that's the risk but we're not Banning books we're taking control of what the kids are seeing yeah it's a misnomer because that was not in the in the policy no it's all about local control what the people what's the taxpayers want well the board already has a policy to your point I guess you said that already on objections toess if there are objections that results in resulting board action to say we're not going
096to have so and so look we set the policy they did the procedure on well how would you even write a policy like that that' be complicated you have one one not handy I mean it's online yeah no oh we you have one we have oh okay I missed I didn't hear you right I'm def what do you think Steve okay we're back on 36 y y the recommendation was do not pass uh I agree AG senses on that 36s do not pass 37a down to 37 just page so qual strategic advocacy this is a due class um and this again um this is a squishing this is a squishing and then there's an amendment to the squishing meshing it together combining two separate proposals both into one I think we definitely want to have
097a stance on impacting federal government yeah I I I agreed with the due pass on um I didn't I wasn't I wasn't sure we really needed um 37a well that example is interesting that's going to feel really outdated in a couple of years what do you suggest this is Matt Adams tiny District yeah I feel like I agree with the squishing like I agree with consolidating I don't know that that amendment is I don't believe that we need to be adding the impact Aid spe specific I mean that's so that very specific to yeah like not specific to this District right I mean a few others right I mean I think probably Oak haror would care about impact a as well but um C commo doesn't get impact dat but they would be interested in
098it we don't qualify for it so like that' be really great but we don't qualify for it impact dat is if you have like a significant uh so like oh car has the Navy base and so they don't have a large taxing structure because like people come and go people in the military don't pay state or like some of the taxes you're exempt from some of those also they live in base housing so they don't have and they shop on base and so you don't have the same like tax structure around and so they call that impact Aid where the federal government put some money no like they put some money into that Community to help offset those taxes from having that base there thank you for that yeah do they have schools within the
099base uh I actually don't know if Oak Harbor still has so if they if they do most military bases every military base I've ever lived at um potentially has an elementary I've not seen one state side that had a high school um they usually go to the local uh you get like Department of Defense if you go like overseas and stuff they have K12 but have not seen one recently that had anything above K5 um just from all of my years of living on bases and I don't know that Oak Harbor's school on base is still running if I'm honest I genuinely don't know but that's what impact eight is thank you and Native uh so like if you have a large property relation is on a reservation military bases those sort of things excellent
100not age your county has a lot of National Forge that is not any property tax thaty that would be one so so interesting so 37 was a pass consensus and 37a was do not pass pass okay um 38 disaggregated data this is a d pass um and this is a new uh proposal um which states wasda believes that in order to identify and eliminate disparities and educational opportunities and outcomes for students local school boards should regularly receive and monitor student data in both aggregate form as well as disaggregated by share aspects of student identities including socio economic information as well as grade program and school information for both point in time and Trends overtime analysis I didn't understand a s word that kind of what we got some of the stuff that we got uh
101last night would ssue to me i' be surprised if there are districts that don't do this but there must be I think part of it saying that they want OPI to send us the data aggregated and disaggregated is this not what does it mean what's a difference it says in supported this districts already require are required to report disaggregated data for the state's comprehension Education data and research system which is Cedars that's that's a term you will hear again um this is a longitudinal data warehouse of educational data maintained by op which includes data on student demographics enrollment information schedules grades program participation due to this mandated reporting every district will be or will already have its students data available in a dis segregated categories that exist within the system which can be reported can
102be support support boards get can support boards getting the data in segregated forms without having to create new data collection or reporting systems so getting back to the understanding so disaggregated is lumped together no aggregated like whole numbers and so therefore it's easier to provide that data SOI if they don't have to split it up but it's more useful if it's if it's split up if you can see where your pockets are more useful to us harder for them uh but we already have to provide it for another system so they're just saying like instead of providing two sets of numbers we just agree that we would always use the disaggregated data is that kind of what I'm getting saying it's the importance of receiving student data in Collective and categorical forms you know I
103wonder because in 2021 no that was Co yeah 2122 we did not receive from ospi the disaggregated data on state test course oh what do you prefer I mean what's more beneficial both yeah yeah summary well I think we should get whatever is most valuable to help you yeah so there's no out the state has to would have to give it to us according to this yeah they can't say oh it's it's statistically un or or like we didn't have time to run that they're required to give it to us well and and you got to remember again all of these things these are all things that we're advocating for yeah it doesn't me happen yeah exactly so this is our wish list right does not have total control no we have no enforcement armed
104yeah I I think yeah I I I think the segregated data is very important yeah social media grou oh yeah as a matter of fact I've been actually asked station to print out the 40 page report from the Surgeon General on that topic yeah and he's really concerned about the negative impact of social media on kids and this actually refers to a no brainer then yeah yeah that's a pass yes yeah Hungary just passed we can figure out what to do with it a national ban on cell phones in schools it's amazing there is a Time F 40 40 fental rights this comes from with a do not pass for Resolutions committee um this is a brand new new proposal I'll let you read through it the rationale for the do not pass is the
105committee voted to do not pass recommendation because there is an existing permanent position titled parents and families are important stakeholders in their children's education which already addresses many of the concepts in this proposal additionally some of the proposed position language reduces local Authority is duplicative to existing state law or does not align with other existing permanent positions so is this a pass this is a do not pass and also because it's a duplicate already a position that's in place that's permanent and there's a recent new state law on the issue that was an initiative but then the legislator went ahead and yeah right yeah so and how's that impact this well it says that it actually is duplicative to existing state law so yeah so it would and induces local Authority because we had no
106say on it yeah I don't know about this what do you think Mona believes and upholds the importance of parental rights in the educational process as stewards of public education we firmly believe that parents play an indispensable role in their children's AC academic journey and overall development parents are the primary Educators and caregivers to their children as such their input and perspective must be valued and respected by educational institutions so this I am all in so we're not saying that these aren't good things we're saying that if you look down here so we already have a a position is there something attached that there there is another position that says that's called parents and families are important stakeholders in the children in their children's education so this is a this other one down here listed
107is another position that is very similar to this they're saying the same thing basically I don't know about well well then why would they change it they didn't change it this is a it's like someone didn't bother to read the prop had one and they just said I want to create a new yeah okay well I guess I'll have to look that up that'll be my homework yeah so and it tells you it tells you what it's called so you can look it up there under as long as the families are the stakeholders it's in the Constitution yes kids are not creatures of the state another fun fact um now notice reading the language on the rationale it uh already addresses many of Concepts in this proposal one of which ones it doesn't like because
108there are things in here apparently that are not in already in the policy um and which ones don't they like uh and uh and then and how does it interfere with um it doesn't say anything about not liking anything my point no no but still why not this because it does apparently according to the language of the rationale this includes some things that are not in the uh is this similar to the one where we said we don't have enough information yes I think there's plenty of information I mean to vote if we don't if we don't have the other one to see what it says and if you don't know what's different between this one and that one you could potentially say that we choose not to vote on this one because we don't
109have enough information yeah I don't think we're get a consensus on well there's not not information in the rationale to to we already have rights no they don't how do we I just happen to have research well why would they go to the pro the trouble of all of this if this covered what they wanted it doesn't make sense it's just Moses L that's it no one else I'm a yes for this I'm a pass I don't know why you would object to it if it's just you know you know repetitive right like why would you need the same like if you have two things that say almost the same thing and then you have conflict between the two which one do you default to I'm going this like that makes it hard to to
110do well actually so why wouldn't you just propose an amendment to the one that's already existing the many of the concept means there's many a significant number not at the existing which are here right and I think the appropriate way that if you were trying to do this the appropriate way would be to propose amendments to that position statement not create a second but that's really not that's not a decision that's not a choice for us tonight it's not so that's why I say Do not pass this and then to the point you could potentially say if you don't like that perhaps next time you would the approp way to do that would be to propose amendments to that one that take about a year or two okay well that's my stand that's good free
111country getting back to this list here in their proposal which one of these are we against because there are some of these that are not in the existing policy according to the impression out thing so they're both similar but this one has a little more to it yeah yeah we don't know because I don't have I don't have the other one pulled up yeah yeah but just look at what's here put the objetive on this list I don't necessarily know that I have an objection Pro or con against anything on the list my objection is if you have two that are similar that talk about the same things and there are conflicts that you would have a problem with which one supersedes which and which one do you follow so the appropriate way to add
112something would be to amend that other one not create a second one that is potentially contradictory to what that says does that make sense that's my stance I feel like it's kicking the can down the road and I'm sick and tired of doing that it's not conflicting we decis a little bit what we don't fear change here change is you know inevitable and I'm all for it so on the basis of what I just said I am for this proposal because puts everything I see here is good and apparently includes some things that are not covered by existing so you would go for a pass on 40 and I would probably concur thank you for the clarity local control legislation legislative committee recommends do not pass this is again a new proposal wda will actively
113advocate for legislation that retains and protects local school board control provided that such legislation does not violate the constitution of the United States or Washington the state of Washington their recommendation is a do not pass for this proposal because multiple member adopted po positions already allow the organization to advocate for local control the committee believes this proposal is therefore duplicative and unneeded I think it makes them accountable and people need to be held accountable I was a f of pass on this hard pass yeah noticing a couple words here the irrational can not pass the already adopted decisions allow the organizations Advocate proposal say l will set a stronger position yeah we need to be and again clear to the point of all the other ones that talked about local control it takes away their
114ability to not if it doesn't make any sense so it says it says that like if it says that that they must advocate for it regardless of whether common sense says that that makes sense or not well they're going to do what we want them to do they work for us they represent us and right but they represent all of us of course they just our school district that's why we're here and I'm all for this aren't you I mean I don't see why you would be against it again don't tell me it's repetitive because if it was why would they bother because you can um one of please don't use that home with me okay I'm sorry um I I also would want to know this is one of the reasons why we do
115the squishing you know couple years maybe we shouldn't squish anymore did Central Valley's that Central Valley yeah but where is that again I have the same reasoning for do not pass that I have for all of the other ones that were very similar so that's my position on it I don't feel like it needs to be any more redundant okay getting back to I would say reading the propos position doesn't sound like that mandates always every case opposing whatever or um it seems like there's still some flexibility in that and it's specific they do not reduce local Schoolboard control we will not have it we control we represent the community so this is nonsense of course we would pass it I would and I'm pretty sure the people that elected me would you going to
116say something well um I'm inclined to say yes on this because it's again I I don't see rand's Point how this would be too restrictive Landing I think it takes the flexibility away from being say yes or no yeah if you say you will do this you're taking away their flexibility well that's what we want to do that's what you would like to do well that's what yeah that's what the community right well what have you done for the school okay so like this I'm I'm just telling like this is where we get to have our ask okay sorry forgive me we have do not pass I do yes pass pass do not pass it's all you out I would probably pass it you're passing yeah 41 is a pass I'm confused are we agreeing
117with the committee's recommendation or are we not agreeing we are not agreeing with the recommendation their recommendation and we are agreeing with the district's The Proposal they're saying they're saying they don't want this they don't want um to oppose any legislation that reduces local school board control why would you oppose that we don't have to take the recommendations on everything it's it's us talking to them isn't it and it says why I think you might disagree with the why which is totally fun but it says it's because it's duplicative of other proposals that already say that I'm sure hearing that word a lot maybe they can go through and I'm up what 4 I mean I feel like 42 is the same argum it is yeah it's redundant like this is the point of the
118redundancy like you have the same you have the same thing twice for two proposals like and we've had the same proposal four other times in here like how many times do you have to have this same words over and over again that's my district has their own like this is how I want to say it this is how I want to say it so they all submitted them individually and then like that's my point is that one it reduces flexibility and then two how many times do we have to say the same thing over and over again just wants to do cleanup so they could have 150 could have 10 of these yeah pass 41 so you can not pass 42 so what are we doing on 42 well it's the same as the one
119we just passed so we don't need to pass it again do we yeah well yeah I guess the question would be which of the two do the three who voted for number 41 like better and 41 less words and less District supporting it um yeah so I'm okay with either one so we could leave it yes or no well at least 41 talks about the Constitution and U and the state constitution I mean I think that's important we're going to talk about local control at 41 and do not pass 42 yeah to learning finally so 43 instruction materials content resolution committee says do not pass this was um the amendment is um let's see current position says uh wasda believes it is the responsibility of the local school board to provide instructional materials that support
120Washington State's goals for basic education required by state law the proposed amendment um changes or adds School Board should engage in involve staff students parents and community in decision-making process already required state law and I just wonder what their recommendations on that whole category makes me wonder why is a district unaware the legislation it feels like Moses lake has had some some weird ones that feel oddly personal you know what I mean like like like maybe like we need to remind ourselves that this is what we do if anything I would say you know it would make sense to say school boards should be aware of the law that that's what yeah so sure 43 recommendation do not pass and we agree with that consensus yeah all right you know I'm not I'm not sorry
121I'm I'm sleep the law already requires we do that so the board tried to they would well I I believe you so 44 is Native American instructional materials and this comes with a due pass wasda believes instructional materials based on local Native American tribal Heritage should be included in District social studies courses course design um they've crossed um that sentence out and added board should engage in government to government consultation with local native nations to implement since time in Memorial instructional materials this process and materials should be fully funded yeah fully funded that sounds like a pretty good deal all right 44 is a pass going back to the original wording they cross out it's good stuff too it's more I think the new wording is more specific to what really needs to happen in
122order for us to get C I mean don't we don't we already teach this I mean don't we already teach this yes but Native American tribal Heritage group is now called government to government what does that mean what does that look like tribal governments and the US government confer together to develop materials Memorial yeah that's the law that requires social studies courses include Native American Contex I can't believe it didn't it sounds like it's a commercial product so how's that defined again STI is a requirement to include native materials in Social Studies classes and government to government is the mechanism where we get those materials so don't teach it no they're just using current language government to government is how we now describe the partnership between our tries so for example here we have a
123bunch of local tribes and a bunch of other tribes across the country and so this is focusing on our local tribes for all tribes probably it's more all tribes that doesn't seem unreasonable I'm surprised we don't already do it it's not fully funded cost extra well currently does they don't it okay 44 is that pass okay 45 is literacy and this comes with a recommendation of D pass um this is a new proposal says wda believes that literacy is foundational to all learning and Central to supporting every student in informed decision making act active civil civic participation achieving their academic goals and increased economic opportunities therefore the local school board should adopt policies that support evidence-based literacy acquisition that improves all students literacy rates and eliminates disparities in literacy across all grades very much so
124back getting back to my college situation I academic standards committee and we discussed this issue how do we what do we do about the ones we here are graduating who are L with a college degree from us because they have gotten not just to us but through certain selective professors who were loose and allow them to just continue on and and make the paper standards graduations we're talking about do we need a test that would be for literacy don't remember what we did but really really important because talk about uh assuring good outcomes if the outcome is that our students are somehow illiterate then that's bad for them terrible yeah teacher so my only my only question on this would be in the third paragraph it says as we develop a systematic literacy framework that's
125the rationale I just don't know who the wi is well it's talking these districts are talking about their own personal experiences to why they're wanting to push this that's the rational from the submitting districts so that would be Peninsula Lake Washington Shoreline school districts that I just don't know that they develop a literacy it doesn't matter but yeah yes I don't know but but they're not wrong yeah I don't think there anything wrong with it yes I I agree to pass yes stions on 45 to pass 46 and 46a page 113 I need it that veran school district was also very busy h so this is in regards to multi uh lingual learners yes they should fly fund it so the 46 is the striking out of including language acquisition coursework and cultural responsiveness training
126as part of the core requirements of teacher education is that what I what to understand there's mechanism and then 46a is the adding well and then the other thing is they're mandating elll endorsement um so that's in 46 which is a has recommended as a do not pass 46a un strikes the or strikes back through the mandating the elll endorsement and then also adds back the included language acquisition it feels like a bit of an overreach for wasda to say every teacher coming out of college needs to have an ml endorsement well and that's the rationale behind it is that important um it's important that as a teacher I understand how I work with students that don't whose first language isn't English but I don't know that I need a state endorsement in that this
127amendment is much better right imagine the cost for students well exactly and what they're talking about here is mandating any endorsement could come at a cost to the district um because we would have to go back and provide because we would have like any of our teachers that don't currently have that they would have to get that right what's El uh that's the previous version version of nlll instead of English language nurs it's multilanguage ners okay would that be like what we used to call ESL I think is it just one language or any language any language but they don't need a language in any language a student is Right may be something I also said before that you know W does not have an enforcement arm yes I don't know how you would that's
128interesting but it's not they can't reach out to the universities and say you must yeah okay so we will so 46 is recommended do not pass 46 a we are we in agreement on 46 Do Not Pass and 46a Pass yes okay yes excuse me 47 heat up now we're done responsibility of graduation requirements for students impacted by covid-19 and this is actually a retirement propos retirement proposal so it's recommendation is is to retire and so they're ask to pass 47 a pass we need easy 48 uh School athletic officials of wda will initiate and support legislation that protects School athletic officials from injury and holds those who threaten or harm School athletic officials accountable for their actions um yeah some parents have gotten very uh very terrible at uh some events uh I actually
129had a coach I keep score for the girls volleyball uh and I actually had a coach come over and yell at me uh for how I was keeping score uh and then she yelled at the ref as well like it was it was bad game yeah and she was yelling at so like we had a high school like the student so I keep the manual like or I keep the clock that's on the thing and then one of the students keeps the individ like the the scoreboard in a book so that we can cross reference and make sure that we're keeping each other correct she was yelling at mallerie and I was like hey if you have a problem with the board you should probably talk to an adults um it was bad like wow
130they're getting really intense so I am all for protecting those referees and officials CU it's intense Beyond Today should we adopt some policies cracking down on that kind of stuff that's a good idea I mean I think we have that and we do give the speech of like being whatever um and I think the referee talked to the because it was a C team I think the ref went and talked to the head coach afterwards because it was pretty outrageous um but yeah it was bad so we're in agreement 48 is a pass correct I'm sorry is there enough followup so in that case I guess it was but yeah I mean and again like I just know that scenario because it specifically impacted me but um I think that they do a pretty I've
131seen parents remov from gyms and students remov from football games and things like that so there's one L which was the emergency position that I handed to you guys um this is in regards to insurance premiums and the proposed new position is wasda shall initiate or support legislation that requires the state to fully fund any increases in the cost of insurance premiums and excess of inflation particularly those that result from change in state law made by the legislature this is another one where R will be disappointed in yeah I mean our our risk pool costs have gotten astronomical um because of some of the changes that they've made Insurance across the board it's just been I work in the industry it's crazy yeah so um are we in agreement I sa great consens that is
132a pass and on that note I will hand it back to president shriber than here being in our discussions and being for business the September 18th 2024 study session is nearby and do not even :00 oh y need do open thank you