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May 13th 2021 VISD Board Meeting

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YouTube / VISD Public Meetings
Date
2021-05-14
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King County, WA
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14,329 words · about 80 min
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2026-06-14

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001if board members could check their mics just do a quick mic check and bring it towards a little closer towards you hello hello hello very very thankful awesome thank you hello me can i hear you hello yes ella hello hello hello hello check credit card cash [Music] silenced that is very unconventional it looks like summer in the top do you mind if you don't think uh no that's nervous unsweetened gold coast watch your mouth okay let me get this seven o'clock let's rock and roll all right okay um do i have a um approval of the agenda you yes do i have a so moved thank you second all in favor aye aye aye all right uh we are going to start with public comment uh when i think is there anybody in the audience

002who is going to speak live you guys want to start okay so i'm going to remind everybody that um you get three minutes and uh just because we want to get through nothing no hard feelings but thank you so much and thanks for youtube for coming in appreciate it do we have a time keeper uh toby i can i can pull out a phone because there's also 15 minutes total 15 minutes total yeah all right so jen whenever you're ready uh i think you're gonna you might be the only one up there and whoever follows you can do that i'm happy too yeah okay thank you um we appreciated more discussion last month partnership is ford and district similar to consider several concerns we need create a program that serves students is um number three

003of course thank you very much okay um say do you want to yeah i will start reading kick us off but first i will say thank you leila and thank you jen for coming tonight appreciate it and being present for the comments and your thoughtful consideration of these significant changes and so i appreciate your your input and we share your your goals and desires and i'm not supposed to comment but i just did okay i will read these comments in the order that they were received and i will try to keep my glasses unfogged so that i can do that okay uh this is from allison clemons to the school board hello all as the parent of one child who loved their experience at camp waskowicz and of another who would have struggled to attend

004i support the principal and commend her for championing a more inclusive choice changing the camp to south will make it much easier for all kids to be able to go sincerely alison clemons just let me know toby or jody if i'm approaching the limit dear members of the board this is from jonathan stein i am writing as the parent of a kindergartner at ces to express my preference for keeping the fifth grade outdoor learning program at camp waskowitz living and learning on vmi our children need exposure to people and places beyond the borders of our shoreline as a parent i love camp seattle for our daughter she attended outdoor connections prior to cs reopening and we have enrolled her for several weeks of day camp there this summer not all but many island students attend

005various programs at camp seattle throughout the year it is a wonderful place and an incredible resource for our amazing community but for many it is familiar shouldn't fifth grade be a time that we introduce our children to experiences outside their comfort zone i have to imagine that part of the magic of attending camp waskowitz is due in large part to being exposed to new people in new place without home field advantage let's not take away an important opportunity to give our students the confidence and the competence to thrive in the world at large please vote no on moving fifth grade outdoor camp sincerely jonathan stein this is a public comment from teresa aguilera dear vashon school board members i am riding today to express my objection to the proposals to move the location of fifth

006grade outdoor school from camp wazkowitz to camp south and the proposal to move the secondary start time to the proposed 905 start time i'm a lifelong vashon island resident and a current special education teacher in the south kitsap school district i'm also the step parent of a sixth grader at mcmurray middle school my objection to moving from camp waskowicz to camp south after two years of fifth grade students were denied the opportunity for any outdoor school seems opportunistic and cruel taking the bus to camp waskowicz was an amazing experience for me as a fifth grader and the opportunity to leave vashon and controlling parents behind in addition as a low-income student there was scholarship funding available due to extensive fundraising from our class so that i could experience something that i would never have been

007able to otherwise i was so excited for my stepson to be able to go to camp waskowitz and felt terrible that the covent 1910 pandemic took that away from him i would hate for all the future students of ashon not to be able to have a unique and wonderful experience there are opportunities for vacheron island students to experience camp south during the summer or school breaks because camp waskowicz is run by the highline school district there is no other way to have access other than with school programs i know that my parents were reticent to allow me to go to camp was with but my teachers and the principal convinced them if it had been on vashon i would most likely not have been allowed to stay overnight before making a decision as a school

008board i hope that you review the actual data about students who opt out of camp bosquits i would imagine that many parents would prefer their students to stay closer to home but i highly doubt that many parents actually prevent their child from going my objection to change in the school start time is based on two reasons school sports and child care as a student at vhs i participated in tennis and we often left for away games around lunchtime if school started at 905 that would reduce the amount of instructional time the students received by an hour and five minutes this would mean that students would miss almost the entire school day for each away game requiring an early dismissal many struggling students rely on school sports as a way to motivate them to succeed in

009their classes all students should be able to participate in sports with a minimum of disruption to their learning creating a later start time would jeopardize that opportunity my next reason for opposing the later start time for a secondary is that with the early start time parents are more able to support children in getting to school dropping off middle schoolers at the same time they drop off elementary aged children at before school child care with the later start time younger middle schoolers might be responsible for getting themselves to school many parents use after school clubs or sports as a way to ensure their children are safe and cared for is the school district going to shift clubs and sports to the morning so the students have a safe place to be i hope that you can

010hear my objections and take them into consideration when making your decision thank you teresa aguilera three minutes on the dot i was going to say thank you for letting me know that i wanted to kind of just do a quick check in toby it will help if you kind of just give a hand raise i'll see you out the corner of my eye when when i saw your trajectory and i thought no that's perfect comfort no i appreciate it one second i appreciate that um we'll we will definitely be reasonable this is from jonas lehrman to the board i right to oppose the study team's recommended changes to chautauqua's hours and 8 a.m to 2 30 p.m school day as proposed will not work for our family other families i know share their the same

011concerns first ending the chautauqua school day at 2 30 p.m would be tough on parents especially those who work off island families have planned their lives job schedules and commutes around chautauqua's current hours the proposed changes if adopted by the board would be disruptive at a time when families crave stability second an 8 o'clock start time would be is too early for young kids for those who ride the bus like our son that start time would require kids to wake up as early as 6 a.m in winter kids would have to wait for the bus on the roadside in the dark finally the proposed schedule change would create conflicts with other child care options on the island including our daughter's morning preschool and cause logistical headaches especially for families with multiple kids for all these

012reasons i hope the board will reject the study team's recommended schedule change thank you jonas lehrman thank you this is from amanda goodwin hello visb i do not understand the well-being resolution i do not agree that a decision about this at a school board meeting is a public discussion i am unable to attend tomorrow's meeting except virtually and watching others make decisions that affect my son on youtube is not an acceptable way to give me access to this supposedly public discussion i have looked over the resolution and the well-being proposed plan and there are many things i do not get for example it makes no sense to say the well-being recovery plan was approved 5 24 21 when that date is in the future bizarre also there is an overuse of acronyms which makes the

013well-being recovery plan completely unreadable what is lea what is cee what do well-being resources refer to what i think i get is that vs visd wants some federal money and that money comes with conditions it would help if the teachers and staff or someone with on the ground experience could say some concrete things that students and teachers must give up in order to receive the benefit of some concrete other thing for example how much time will students lose out of their school year in order to comply with the requirements to get this federal money how will this deal affect the books read in english class my son has still not read any shakespeare in 11th grade where i had already read hamlet a midsummer night's dream as well as some classic greek plays like oedipus

014rex by the end of 11th grade this year for example he could have read the plague by albert camus i read the stranger in high school fashion high school it seems to me is selling my son short and i'm not clear what we get in return how is this a mutually beneficial deal how can visd recover well-being whose well-being and why should that be visd's job where is the public discussion where all these questions have been addressed i watched the anxiety movie that was required for students to watch before they could return to school there were some key pieces of information missing for example exposure to screens and electromagnetic frequencies were not mentioned as sources of anxiety like symptoms on the contrary the movie suggests students use their phones if they feel anxious about ever

015stating their sensitivity to emf may cause the same symptoms as anxiety the movie could at least suggest exposure to nature as preferable to turning on the cell phone as it is the movie can only lead to more confusion of anxiety with emf sensitivity than whatever confusion students and teachers already had so if the anxiety movie is an example of a well-being intervention then on a scale of negative 10 to 10 with negative 10 being 100 harmful and 10 being 100 helpful i'll put the anxiety movie at negative 3. in short there seem to have been a lot of trade-offs already that my son is suffering the consequences of for this deal i want to make sure he does not lose out anymore thank you amanda goodwin this is from lisa coley chris and lisa coley

016my apologies i would like to express my frustration with the vashon school district and board for even considering eliminating the experience of camp waskowitz the proposal to partner with camp seattle cannot compare with the experience for vashon children to travel off island for a multi-night trip vashon has many benefits when it comes to raising children the fact that our children are removed from more regular exposure to new experiences is not one of them camp waskowicz affords island children the rare opportunity to meet a more diverse group of kids the highline school district and otherwise expand their horizons and face new challenges i believe this proposed change is using equity as an excuse when i imagine it is primarily to save the district money to use a location on the island in the region beachcomber article

017ecuador was used as the rationale for a change it is my understanding that over the years the district staff has done a fantastic job in making sure that any child who wishes to attend waskowitz is able to do so despite any special needs therefore the only children that we would be making this program more inclusive for are those who are not ready for being away from home at night historically this has been a very small segment of the fifth grade and i do not feel that it is necessary to fundamentally change the whole experience for the majority of fifth graders who look forward to wascowit's adventure for the very small minority children who are just not ready to be away from home i imagine these same children would not want to attend the overnight portion

018at south if this location change was finalized i disagree with the premise that the two programs afford the same exact opportunities this will be true if a school group from over town visited for almost all island children this is not an adventure new experience or different than any other day on vashon a better option would be to add a day program at camp south and make this a one school week tradition for fourth graders this would give them an excellent introduction to environmental education and allow them to explore the outdoors in a familiar environment they have spent their childhoods exploring the woods and beaches of the island and need to leave vashon for camp waskowitz to make the experience complete please do not destroy the special experience for future fifth graders sincerely lisa coley parent

019of three chautauqua camp was alumni i'd like to recognize comments from ron meyer mark and gemma langlin kristen i apologize joelnus and lena pulse and comments from sally adam who submitted comments and i'm i will would like to assure them that those comments each board member will take them into consideration when making the decision and have uh previously read them and thank you for those who have come to share their comment and those all those who have made their comments this evening for camp waskowitz and it appears the suggested school changes i will reiterate on behalf of the five seven of us that we do in fact read all these letters and they're really important to us we really appreciate them um and so i'm sorry we can't get to everybody's but but they all

020have been read um so thank you and um thanks you guys for coming in appreciate you making the effort to come in okay uh superintendent report yeah thank you board chair the people people lived here long before and during the colonization of the americas in the westward expansion of the united states we recognize these indigenous people of the salish sea their displacement dispossession and continued presence as we reflect on the past and move to the future let us be reminded that our school district sits within the traditional lands of the pyola people so um quickly just some updates on the the school year uh today i just want to focus on two specific items we are uh as we just saw from the cdc um new guidance uh around the wearing of masks and how

021if you are vaccinated that masks are no longer be required on in most settings uh those regarding travel and and some other requirements including businesses and places where they have posted that mask are still required i just want to let our public know and the board know that at this point in time we don't anticipate any changes in our policies and procedures regarding mass that's not to say for certain that something could change because in covid everything could change on a weekly basis but we don't anticipate anything from the department of health or king county uh you know public health that will indicate that we will be doing any kind of significant changes to our uh procedures regarding requiring masks in schools and requiring mass for the public when they attend athletic events similar to

022graduation events etc so i'm just sharing with our public those who are watching and and the board as well that uh sometimes there may be expectations that uh decisions you know have been made and therefore we shall you know kind of implement what folks have heard and we will wait for any new guidance from the department of health and specifically from public health seattle king county if there's going to be any changes second is great news about vaccination and the medical reserve corps and vashon be prepared we have met a little while ago understanding that the 12 to 15 year olds were going to be eligible for vaccination and as always we are well ahead of the curve in terms of being able to provide vaccination for our 12 to 15 year olds and those

023you know high schoolers because people tend to think 12 to 15 year olds is just middle school but we will have a significant number of high schoolers also set up to receive their first dose next week and as well vaccinations students will be receiving their second doses high school next week as well i'll just share with you in some conversations and this just kind of demonstrates the the wonderful nature of being on vashon and the amazing resources that we have with the medical reserve corps and tyler young from the pharmacy most districts are anticipating uh vaccinations for 12 to 15 year olds somewhere in june maybe july and so many districts right now are just getting their high school vaccination sites set up so that just is a testimony to to to danny over there

024his staff and our nursing services you know everybody involved to make sure that that we're getting shots and arms as fast as possible and last but not least i'm going to recognize our nursing services staff exactly snap snap snap wednesday was or yesterday it felt like a week ago already wednesday we celebrated uh uh national school nurses day and so and i will make my apology online right now to pam who is subbing in our district who i failed to recognize during my uh kind of my my my shout out to all the school nurses um she's been wonderful subbing in for for you know needed services for one of our nurses who has had to be away but uh ann zaff sarah day and elizabeth parishes parish part of our nursing services team um

025we would not be here today without your help so thank you very much to the to that team of three um any other questions in terms of like school year update i you know i had a couple things to focus on but maybe i didn't cover something that you were hoping i would cover okay i anticipated that but i just wanted to pause no it's just good news in terms of end of year celebrations that it's absolutely and so uh next is kind of an update for our district and the board on our school family partnership coordinator we are have posted the position we had a last week we had two listening sessions for community members who would like to attend stephanie and i had the exclusive audience with josefina for about a half hour

026who shared with us just wonderful feedback on what her hopes were for the position so we were able to answer questions and and uh just uh it was a great visit and we we learned quite a bit i took that feedback and put it into our job description um the next steps really are the the position is posted right now it's a 35 hour five days a week position um and we expanded it we anticipate that the majority of the position uh probably 80 to 90 of the time will be spent with our latino families but we also know that there are families in our district um who uh also experiences challenges and barriers and acts to accessing services and and and so we want this uh this person to be able to support uh

027those families also and the the next steps in this position are to essentially hopefully we have an interview we want interviews to be scheduled um around may 26th and then we're going to have a we're having community members involved in that interview panel and then in the evening we will have a a a a another interview panel for families to ask questions similar to when i was brought on board in the district uh now three years ago here in this at this very setting um where families can uh post questions and and express you know what they hope to to see in this in in in this role and that will be on the the 26th and then um and then after that um dr spencer and i will meet with the with with the

028the candidate after we've received input from everybody and you know kind of who who kind of rises to the top and we'll meet and have a final conversation and then make an announcement on the 28th and um that's our anticipated timeline of course with everything every you know things could change but we have set a kind of a timeline here and that that allows us two or three weeks before we end school to bring that person in do some orientation um situate them and hopefully do some introductions spend some time with sally adam and delaney steele who have been you're kind of currently in that role um to uh kind of complete that orientation uh process and so i'm looking i'm looking forward to to this is an expansion of our current programming you know

029in terms of support for families and i'm anticipating um hopefully positive results uh in terms of academic achievement and support for families any questions regarding that you know that last piece right there i know we've been having some conversations offline but any other conversations from the questions from the board around that great hopefully when this process concludes we will introduce you you know we'll bring that person into a board meeting and you can meet them personally okay uh strategic planning we're gonna have more to say about this on the on the 27th meeting um but mo to you from performance fact we are kind of in the final discussions uh with that agency and have uh made some initial commitments but we will be speaking further to that agreement and that partnership with performance fact

030i will say this i'm super excited i know it's right it's hard not to talk a lot about it right now because we have talked about being the 20 on the 27th sharing more with our public and and more as a board but i will say that stephanie zabat and i have been really encouraged by the conversations and the possibilities and and hopes around this process for us that will start next september so i anticipate that we will have a consent agenda item at that point in time in terms of the final contract but we're gonna hold place uh and the discussion part of that uh evening's agenda to really discuss more about what we what we hope to achieve and and our uh you know kind of just hearing more from those involved in

031the process some are extended learning optimities opportunities so um i think i mentioned before that jenny graham from the middle school she's our our kind of she's also part of vea leadership but she's one of our algebra teachers there has taken on the director of our summer learning program position and we are just tickled pink i don't know where that that phrase comes from but i am and i'll i think i would if i'm looking at stephanie i think she would probably agree with me that we are excited to be planning with jenny um she's been a rock star in terms of you know really zeroing in on the details of the program what it's meant to do the kind of collaboration and connections that she already has with our building leadership team and the

032teachers is phenomenal we expect a program of classes and opportunities to come out to our public sometime around the 19th or a little bit after that we are intentionally holding back opportunity from our general public to to um to offer specific um programs and opportunities to our students who are most in need right now who um you know in terms of maybe engagement or learning recovery each building is identifying students and who who would be most who these programs will be most beneficial for and we're going to offer them those opportunities in in advance and then open up to the to the general public and our goal is to get this out as soon as possible because we know families are making plans and specifically um our goal is to have specific teachers reach out

033to families to make those kind of personal invitations and get them signed up in advance for these opportunities we are referring transportation so brandon case uh you know has been coordinating with us but really it's a matter of once we get the the opportunities offered to our public and we get sign-ups then we can you know our goal is by june 9th i believe to have a finalized list of which classes will run and let teachers you know know uh and staff not just teachers but our classified staff as well know kind of what what to expect for the for the summer but it's a it's the first time we we've engaged in this process it's exciting everybody who stepped up thanks very much for all the staff out there who have you know basically

034taken one two or three or four weeks of their summer and said you know i want to you know want to provide some experience for kids that will help them launch into the next school year more prepared and more engaged so um can i interrupt yeah absolutely so just to be clear there's there's two programs there's the um credit recovery program and then there's the learning academies that just so people can understand that the nuance difference between these two absolutely so there's actually three programs three yeah so there's uh our academy our learning academy uh which offers experiences kind of tier two services in kind of math foundational experiences and reading foundational support then we have extra school year for students who are are currently receiving special services who are have ieps and then we

035have students who are going to be in like as you said kind of credit recovery so using uh admentum and through a process very similar from year to year that we've been using at the high school okay so the program that jenny's running is basically sort of a covid was a crazy year right not everybody was reached as well as they normally have been and so right to help those kids okay that's i think that's fantastic absolutely thanks for clarifying that it's important that and then uh in terms of racial equity consultants uh we tonight the board will vote on consent agenda to bring on nikken pond and we are meeting next week on the 18th i think with nikampan and keisha palmer to coordinate the the two of their services our racial equity our

036district equity team um had an experience where both of those consultants came and presented a kind of uh you know an opportunity for our district to partner with them and we as a kind of a steering committee springs stephanie and i met and deliberated around kind of what would be our best path forward both consultants received positive reviews we've identified nikken pond as our lead consultant in our racial equity work over the next uh two to four years probably and but we also saw a unique opportunity for keisha palmer to to work with nikam in this experience and so we're going to meet and kind of identify what that path might look like moving forward but tonight there is a consent agenda item on a contract with educate to liberate which is nikum's consultant agency

037and it's a lot to ask for but i'm hoping that he can [Music] meet with us with meet with our district equity team at the end of this month but we will kind of just take one step at a time which is always the best way to to take you know to go forward but that's kind of our update right now and that that contract is i think up to 23 000 and just important to note that that that we received money through vacheron schools foundation um a two-year grant of 25 000 each year and some of that money has been budgeted towards equity teams and some other expenditures but this expenditure for this particular contract for this year will be fully funded through the fashion schools foundation grant and upcoming events uh gosh i'm

038gonna be just let our public on the board know i'll be away next week uh wednesday evening through sunday i'm taking a visit to southern california and i'm i'm i would love to say that it's you know to visit family and and friends but i i'm just letting you know that i'm going to go surfing um i had a couple days left in my uh contract and i know folks maybe that might be controversial but um it's uh it's been a great year um but i'm gonna take a a little bit a couple days just to um do the thing that i love the most um and then this isn't what you love to do exactly so i love to do this the most it's my second favorite thing to do and then uh in

039june we have two board meetings um coming up june 10th i believe in june 24th and obviously we have some we have well we have our also our may 27th agenda there's we're going to pack a lot in um in terms of you know how we're going to finish this year we're going to be making decisions on camp wasco what's in south we're going to be making decisions on school start times we're going to be making decisions on our you know learning and well-being recovery plans there's a lot of work for us to do and i recognize that that works actually starts you know kind of at the ground level with with teachers and classified staff and kitchen staff and everybody else uh doing you know kind of uh making it all happen so um

040but it's it's it's great work to do and um once again i'm just uh loving that we have a great group of folks to to to do it with it's a good thing we're not doing the budget yeah right right we're also going yes exactly we also have a budget to pass so um by that time as well that concludes my report okay thank you slade um let's we'll go down this way so no i mean like starting here okay so toby oh yeah i don't know i don't have a whole lot to say because there's a packed agenda but i do want to reiterate that uh i i personally read all the letters that come in usually multiple times as i contemplate the issues that we're dealing with and really cherish the voice of

041the public it's too bad that we can't actually be in the room together but a special shout out to lena poohs a 7th grader who submitted uh comments tonight we didn't read her uh hers out loud but i like to hear from from students when there's an issue that they're particularly interested or passionate about yeah yep i have no remarks uh my remarks are uh regarding the vashon schools foundation during give big we had a really strong response from the community and just want to thank all of our donors we had a 30 000 goal for give big and plus a 30 000 match from an extremely generous island business and altogether combined we ended up making over 65 000 for the district at the end of give big and we still have some follow-on

042donations rolling in so that money goes to pay for racial equity which we heard about a little earlier as well as a the science partnership the fascia nature center and five or six other initiatives i won't scroll through them you can all read it on our website but thank you very much to the community that is just a reminder that these programs are not funded by basic education and they would not exist without your support in the community uh journeyman and sisterhood are also funded by the vashon schools foundation i think those have been critical especially through covid again your taxes and basic education does not pay for those and they would not exist without the support of the community to the vashon schools foundation so 65 000 yay thank you everyone that was a

043really um surprising given the challenges of the year and the world at large but um we deeply appreciate your support thank you spring i just want to confirm that um sorry i don't have my agenda pulled up i can't ever remember my password but um that we're having an opportunity to discuss the waskowitz yeah that is yep decision okay great and i'm gonna hold a lot of my remarks until then okay thanks okay uh so then we'll just keep i i won't i don't have any remarks at this moment so we'll just keep going down mead you ready yeah i'm ready um is it working can you hear me just make sure your mouth is really close to it okay sounds good um yeah so i think ellen i just wanted to start with a

044couple um scheduling updates just for the next month or so of school um officially prom is scheduled for june 5th it's a saturday and it's going to take place on the hyu which is an old out of commissioned ferry boat which is really exciting i think there's a lot of excitement surrounding that especially with seniors um so that's great unfortunately i've haven't heard as much excitement surrounding safe grad night which is um i'm sure all you guys are familiar with safe grad night but it's just then it's just the the night after graduation all the seniors go and have a big night that that's all planned by the parents um which is and i haven't been hearing that much excitement or maybe it's just publicity surrounding it which is really too bad because i know

045how much effort the board of that event has been putting into it um so hopefully that'll something about that will change we i know that past years has brought in like capacity of seniors um for that event so um it'll be interesting to see how many uh show up after graduation so there's that another thing i wanted to mention was ap testing has just started um these past few weeks i it's basically been split into two schedules where there's in-person tests and this is the time where they usually would happen on every other year there's also online tests that are happening it's probably starting next week and into june and most students at vhs at least juniors and seniors especially are taking their tests online so most kids haven't started their ap test yet i

046think there's um definitely a an energy of just um not being prepared overall that could just be coveted i'm sure just being a whole year of online people are going to feel that way so hopefully um ap the whole ap organization has adapted to that and that'll be okay but we'll see ella thank you okay um so my the first thing i would want to report on is graduation um it's scheduled to take place on june 12th and there's going to be a car parade similar to last year but it sounds like it's more organized and then also an in-person graduation on the field and i think like each senior gets to bring four people um and then yeah that was exciting to me and i think it's exciting to a lot of people because

047it's a lot more of a graduation than we thought we'd get um sports oh yeah sports our spring sports had a very successful season soccer boys soccer won the league championship girls track won the league championship and softball won the league championship and voice track got third um yeah i think that's it for me and we actually held a a meet at home yeah yeah on our own track yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah congratulations to all our athletes i mean it was a crazy season because it was uh quick um but maybe that's our strength that's what we need to you know but i think people would enjoy a longer one so um thanks both of you for those and i'm very hopeful that um i'm very excited i agree with you that graduation will

048be will will exist i shouldn't say this i should knock on heavily and knock on wood but exist and that the parade will be grand and prom will be everything you want it to be and and safegrad night will be highly attended um okay so thank you all for the remarks and so we'll move on to discussion just to um quickly yeah uh me and ella i will see you tomorrow at our student advisor board meeting our end of year pizza party and if you have other obligations that you need to attend to tonight you're free to attend to them perfect thank you guys yes thanks for coming in thank you thank you thank you okay uh some might say this is the highlight of the evening john stanton that would be grim indeed okay

049so i'm just here to present our surplus resolution apparently only my department had anything to get rid of uh this time around so i'm the guy that gets to tell you about it mostly what we're getting rid of is things that are very old or very broken we have a few things in this list of items which includes some laptops some very small number of desktops and a bunch of broken chromebooks that will still have some life namely a few of our laptops and so once this surplus declaration is approved and i hope it is we can make those available to some students that we've identified who could use a full-blown windows computer so we'll be working with jody to identify those students and get an operating system for them and get them set up

050so that's kind of the happy disposition of some equipment that's been very well used over the last couple years great uh any questions on this resolution can we do a uh do we have to wait for do two meetings or can we do this right now is there a sense of urgency around making a decision today no i'll move to suspend the policy and let's do it yeah i mean if you guys are going to move to spend whatever the policy is it says we have to have two meetings on a resolution yeah and i also moved that we changed the date on the bottom of the resolution do i have a second a second all right if any further discussion all right all those in favor all right aye all right done and you

051gotta vote on it now yes john exactly you just moved we we uh voted on that motion all right thank you okay right hennessy amendment yeah okay so now they're actually voting on the resolution now thank you yeah i move we approve resolution number 793 with the amended date second second uh john i do have one question for you um for things that will not be able to you'll be able to sell i'm assuming you will recycle them in an environmentally friendly way possible that's right so we have identified a recycler in tacoma that will come out to our site and has given us a sort of uh what do you call it in the art world when it's sort of the bonafides in the in the chain in any case they uh certify that

052the stuff that they're getting rid of is being done in a reasonable way thank you thanks for clarifying that okay all those in favor all right aye aye aye great okay motion passes thanks bob thank you thank you sorry i sorry about the two okay um all right um 21 2122 budget planning amy thank you um jody why don't you go ahead and open the classified first since it's there first thank you so in your materials you have a copy of the 21 22 budget proposed fte and this should be a fairly familiar document to all of you it's appeared in the in the budget book for a number of years it gives you a look at a historical look back to 1617 compares our current fte to the fte that we are proposing for

053the budget a couple of things i'd like to highlight looking at paraeducators we do have a retirement that we do not at this point plan on replacing based on the student population uh if you go down a little bit further looking at people management and safety you will see an increase but that's actually down 0.25 from 1920 the 2021 number is skewed because of covid because we did not use our ferry monitors and those hours during that time and we have excuse me replace those hours going into next year because we are assuming normal operations or as close to as possible and then very similarly if you look at food service you'll see that there is a year to year increase there but again there were reduced hours because of the change in operation this

054year and we are planning on a replacement of those hours going into the next year are there any questions on the numbers for classified okay just a quick comment on process you know we have a budget planning calendar just it's for the public mostly not free not for you but then the budget planning calendar uh every month we present different portions of the budget uh the assumptions that are being made and so um we're kind of at that point where um you know amy and the principals and everybody have kind of done uh stephanie and actually everybody in the district have done the kind of the work in terms of projecting staffing and so this is that kind of part of the of the of the process where we're these are going to be two

055pages that you will see in our final budget once we get to kind of that first read of our of our budget so just a reminder for the public actually thank you okay that's fine moving to the certified page um again the changes you're seeing are based on attrition and the 2.67 decrease you're seeing in teaching staff is really spread across all three buildings it's a combination of rehiring some of the vacated positions at the high school in the middle school at slightly lower fte which so far has been very successful for us and we do have we are reducing one position at the elementary school based on student population as well and that again is occurring through attrition if you look at the health services line you will see a reduction of a little

056over 0.8 that's actually related to the fact that we have an employee who is taking a leave for a good portion of next year and that time will be covered through a contractor so that's not necessarily reduction in cost it's just the dollars are landing someplace else in the budget any questions related to certified staff i see bob moving this i don't know if this is the appropriate place but counseling resources i would i would love to have a conversation about that at some point during this budget process if it i defer to the chair and the superintendent when that occurs but i wanted to have that conversation no that's great this is this is not a bad time do you have a kind of what you're thinking is around counseling resources i just i

057just i know given in case you hadn't noticed the pandemic and all and and i'm sorry for being flip um that student mental health and counseling resources are a priority i think for many of us and i just wanted to sort of have a conversation at some point about are we accounting for that in our budget planning maybe if we want to throw more counseling resources at the kids that that we budget for it so i don't know if anybody else has an interest or not in that but i do yeah we can definitely have that discussion and i can share with you kind of some of the preliminary planning and um i'm not anticipating um more than what so right now we do quite a lot of supplementation with schools foundation in terms of

058providing mental health supports but our counseling team has been meeting with bachelor of youth and family services and have plans to have that same kind of coordination with the vassan community care team and and other kind of island resources and so that planning's in progress but i don't anticipate that it's going to require a significant you kind of more more funding from us in terms of you know providing programs or supports that are that are lacking right now so just um but it's it's in planning is there going to be a budget impact to the planning if we decided to throw more you know um i that's right we don't have we don't have any needs right now that are identified that would require more more capacity so you think we're covered for next school

059year for student mental health yes emotional health yes and and we're kind of in the process of planning as well but we have we have capacity um in terms of you know um would this require more community resources one-on-one counsel there's questions around group counseling um we're just current in the planning stages right now um so it's it's it's not something that we have a specific um that we you can have put like an extra fifty thousand or a hundred thousand dollars into capacity for but could we if we chose to yes and when when would that occur in the in the budget process i guess that was my question when do these decisions as a board get made i just want to make sure i missed we that we collectively that's a good question

060i i don't know if the board has ever made decisions about specific counseling budgets uh the board has it yeah i'm just not since i've been here i don't know you know those budgets come out through building budgets and through you know through grant grant budgets so bob are you wondering and just what i'm hearing is that you're concerned that there may be needs in in each building that potentially are not getting met because of budget restraints oh yeah i i'm i'm not in a position to know you know i'm asking and we will have we will have esser funds you know kind of at our disposal to to supplant supplement supplant i know i just said that publicly to supplement um you know if if there are needs that that come up that we

061that we don't have capacity for we will have esther funds for what would those funds go for if we weren't using them for mental health is this just money kicking around or these are these these are great questions we don't know um we're kind of in an unknown a little bit of an unknown land where we we make budgets uh according to what we have kind of perceived needs but right now again our our counseling teams are are planning on increasing group supports and those group supports are going to come through bachelor on youth and family services and those supports are going to be provided through grant funding through the vashon schools foundation would it be easier to just show us what prepare for us what you're going to be doing for supports and give

062it to the board i don't know if that's going to be available to you before the year the end before the end of the year but i can certainly you know share share with you right now the counselors are kind of currently in that planning but they haven't finalized that plan but that's what the budget is for so i mean so we'll talk offline you know we have we have capacity for it but what i'm saying is that we don't we don't we don't have an exact um you know needs assessment that's been completed that says we're going to require 80 000 of funding for you know for counseling services what we are doing is keeping our current counseling levels uh stable and our uh behavior support specialists stable even in uh low enrollment so

063i think that's a significant step forward and we did hire a new counselor at the high school who's gonna who is on the consent agenda tonight which is very exciting coming from mercer island so um you know we have uh we have a great group of folks they are currently in planning but we don't have that you know ready for the board tonight my frustration is that if we are if we've known we are going into the next calendar school year with needs the planning to fund those needs i would have hoped they would have occurred by now thanks for sharing that yeah i mean i think i don't know i don't know how to to respond bob uh our counseling team is hard at work right now i've met with them a couple times

064they understand you know the needs they also have an assessment that they completed for that our students completed for ospi but we have not seen the results of that assessment come back yet so unfortunately i don't have those exact plans for you um but if i know that in advance i can certainly be better prepared to share that with you well that's why i wanted to raise it now before the budget was done i mean i get it because it's this is i mean this is what what that's always talking about how crazy it is to sort of budget these things because it's you know you need to do it so quickly but you don't really know and the timeline from ospi is so tight and it doesn't really give us a lot of room

065but i appreciate what you're saying this is an unknown but what i'm hearing is that we're keeping our present capacity for counseling we're partnering with outside organizations to add additional funding that's already paid for to the school's foundation granting and that will have extra ester funds available to apply to furture counseling if it becomes evident that we need to based on enrollment and experience but we're also starting also too to see the counseling team have a more deliberate process of working with our island partners and so i think those partnerships have been strengthened and i've been a part of that process which has been which has been great i know spring has kind of been in a similar process with west seattle you know kind of re-examining um what the needs are going to be

066and what those strategies are going to be moving forward and and we've we've kind of started a very similar process so yeah so is it your i guess is it it's your view that we will have more capacity in the next budget year for mental health social emotional health of students than we did in the current fiscal year absolutely and it's mostly because of probably esser funds uh that were that we're anticipating you know coming down and we're you know kind of you know matt and kay have been i think rightly so conservatively estimating what those funds are going to be obviously they've identified you know a little bit over a million dollars but we've seen them come out with numbers for us before and those numbers haven't come to fruition so we're we're appropriately

067i think identifying what those what those kind of what that capacity will look like related to that and perhaps you don't know the answer to the question what's the status on the the in-school neighbor care clinic or what are they anticipating in terms of capacity for next school year you know it plays a role yeah no in terms of in terms of that it it it does appear there that they are at capacity right now and so i anticipate that i continue is it kind of back to pre-pandemic type services is that what they're anticipating or what they've shared when you say pre-pandemic type of services what do you mean uh having the clinic open and available in the school right absolutely in their mental and their mental health services right and they're still providing

068those services but they're kind of you know they're not in person always right it's not part of our budget but it's been a one of those community partners that's filled with an important gap yeah they would love to expand i think they'd like to take our our band room um you know they've kind of been interested in that proposing some solutions we don't really have a an expanded space for them um but that's i noticed in our student fees uh we rent this room out at 15 an hour right exactly that's true oh are you the budget no i know uh okay so thank you thanks bob thank you for comments and thanks toby um amy are you you're good okay well thank you thank you for that fte report and it's uh yeah i

069just i think it's kind of interesting but thank you for that um okay danny oh right matt you julia both yeah i'll just give a little background um provided to you is a memo regarding the 2021-2022 school start times about uh two months ago a month and a half ago i was asked charged if you will to work with our three principals to take a look at the possibility of changing our school start times for next year uh we met four times uh virtually and face to face over the month and a half and we took a look at all options that i'll have turn the mic over to danny here in a second and he can go into more in depth what those options are and speak more passionately to the recommendation that went

070to ultimately slade and then to all of you in between those meetings we did our due diligence we worked with first student transportation we worked with ospi ospi transportation our athletic department food service facilities the washington state ferries and obviously the business office finance to take a look at all the possibilities and how they would affect all parts of the district and obviously even outside the district we spoke to a couple of school districts to see what possibilities there were whether it be metro and transportation that would fall into and or aid some of the recommendations and i'll turn the mic over to danny uh yeah i just appreciate matt's uh work on this team and bringing us together and his his methodical and kind of thorough way of moving us through this um just

071from a historical perspective we've been looking to move the secondary start time back as close to 9 00 a.m for many many years seattle public over five years ago moved their secondary program back to nine a.m and the thing that prevented us from doing so at the time was the the disruption that would be caused when we didn't have really a very clear problem we were trying to solve at that time so we knew the research but to be frank things seem to be going okay in their current configuration and so disrupting that for the purpose of moving elementary to an early start time and everything else it just really was hard for us to justify that level of disruption and now i um so i hope that's not too uh frank but that's my

072honest view on on why we didn't move forward at that time the disruption has been delivered to us on a golden platter and and not of our own choosing and so there has been really consistent anecdotal feedback from our families and our students that one of the things they appreciate most about the pandemic has been the late start time at the secondary level and and so it was one of the first things we wanted to look at capturing and continuing as we learn what can we keep that was good during this time so at this point when we agreed to move it to the next phase of collecting feedback and collecting and doing kind of a deeper dive with our community it's with the anticipation that um that we'll continue to hear lots of support

073from members of the secondary community who have currently enjoyed the later start time and that it will be a lot of discussion and feedback or an exploration at the elementary level because this represents a pretty big impact a pretty big change for that community not to say there are some things we need to take a close look at which include things like athletics and what the impact is to starting practice and in games potentially an hour later um so just from a practicality standpoint you know we would start at the secondary level at 9 15 and we would get out around 3 45 and elementary would start at about 805 and get out around 245 so it would be kind of a swap from our pre-pandemic schedule that is the proposed schedule change to give

074folks something to respond to but really at this point we're at the we've just released the today the the survey went out and that's being administered centrally so slade is taking the lead on providing the links to surveys and we've set up feedback sessions and q and a's for parents coming up here in the next couple weeks and i think i feel really confident that we are providing enough opportunity at the right time and that we've done the right level of exploration to set us up to make a good decision so i'm pretty confident that wherever we land on the decision either to not change or to change that we haven't crammed it in too late in in too short a time frame there's some other things that some people have wondered out loud about

075um in terms of can we change our schedule or change our school configuration i'm more much more worried about those things not not having enough time and enough opportunity to for instance keep our quarter model you know going into next year or flip the trimesters those sorts of things are not on the table today for a reason because this is the right amount of change that we that we can really process cleanly and well um and for the right reasons how to do matt okay bob average oh do you guys can we ask you questions now yeah absolutely yeah here we are so um i think i know a little bit of this answer but obviously if we switch flip-flop them the younger kids will need some after school for meeting parents they'll need to

076have some coordinated care with other agencies on the island so i'm wondering if you had preliminary conversations to address how that would work if the little guys are getting out and their parents aren't going to be home until five or six yeah i've always thought the worst part about being a parent was between 3 and 5 p.m personally but um rebecca do you want to tackle that while you're here or rebecca will you stand to the people at home or audience at home no i'm sorry i made rebecca underneath you just had knee surgery too i'm sorry oh my gosh i think your doctor said you're supposed to walk around everybody okay yeah you're welcome i'm just good to move around sorry rebecca that's why you look really sedentary so i thought you should get

077up thank you um so i have reached out to bash on kids and just made sure that that change you know will be okay with them they're they all of the partners have really flexed with us they always ask us even in this um just recently the um the dance centers will reach out and say what time works for your afternoon if kids are in the pm class when could they get to ballet three and so we've always worked really closely with the community partners and so they will flex along with us same as concluding veteran kids it may end up there like with vacheron kids their enrollment may decrease in the morning but then increase in the afternoon and so in some ways it may be a benefit to them financially and the same

078with other um some of our outdoor programs might grow because after school programs they might grow because there's more of a need after school and but with that need there may be a need for more scholarships for students and so there has been an ability over the years for the island to really flex there's so many outdoor programs for students and our parents really take advantage of it we have like a very complex busing system happening like happens almost nowhere in the world where kids can go like different places every day on a bus like in a normal year and it's and our kids take advantage of that i mean they're going to grandma's tuesday and ballet monday and parkour wednesday and it's just like it's a lot of after-school activities and so the island

079is rich with opportunities and a lot of those organizations also provide scholarships for students as does fashion kids and so i i don't i wouldn't worry about our community stepping forward and providing some after school programming right that being said it is a very difficult change for elementary like i recognize that like it is a big shift that has advantages and disadvantages but i think after school programs that exist now we'll be able to transition to shift an hour earlier okay thank you recognizing that our island is unique in many ways do we i haven't really tracked it well in terms of seattle public schools or other districts and how it's going for them do you guys know like you know i know one parent mentioned in a letter that she'd heard you know there's

080anecdotal information but um i'm curious is it seemed to be going swimmingly in other districts and i don't even know if there were measurable outcomes that they were hoping um that would be achieved somehow by the the time change um so i'm just curious you may not know and i can do my own research but was curious and i think it's another opportunity for us to make sure again we have some sort of systematic framework that we're using when we evaluate any kind of major change for families in terms of equity in terms of access um which i'm sure we plan on doing but i just wanted to mention that that it there's some sort of maybe standardized criteria that we can be using or tool as we're using our racial equity lens because that

081would find that would definitely financially impact so many people um and being an island so there's a couple of questions in there i guess i don't i don't have the hard data on that and i'm not sure if we can find that based on seattle experience i know from talking to some teachers that did that taught in seattle when they made the change just over this last week they said they actually said there's some side benefits they didn't realize like kids actually getting home and time to play when it's light out so they actually had outdoor outdoor time after school and then from talking to other parents they have a real there's a real shortage of after-school programs in seattle and so for those families that was that it was a struggle to try to

082for programs to adapt to the need was more of a challenge there than i think we'll find here but i think there's there's advantages and disadvantages and kind of either either scenario and but some teachers like well actually younger kids are more awake in the morning and so they saw benefits there as well but i'm i don't have hard facts on it yeah that's okay i know every family situation is so different and i i would really encourage and hope that we'll we'll outreach to families so that we capture um you know some of our maybe more at risk or disadvantaged or marginalized populations to make sure we hear back from them since a lot of people don't always complete the surveys um i don't know danny or anyone matt have you guys heard of

083anything from other district principals or no not in terms of the more recent changes i am not aware of of studies anecdotally or otherwise around the benefit or liability right of of those recent changes unfortunately i think right around the time that they might have actually been ready to report something is right around when the pandemic hit just because it was would have been a couple years at that point of of the changes but the research that underpins the late start is so long-standing and kind of universal that's not really in question and what i like about that is that we're not you know we're it's not um we're not responding if to like to privilege for instance or we're not catering to to the to the needs of a certain population who is asking

084for something specific when we're considering this type of change i i'd be concerned if that was a motivator or a reason instead we're really grounding ourselves in science so that's that's where i'd want to sit when it comes to the biology of our teens and and what we're what we're asking them to overcome when they come into the school environment we're asking them to overcome their own biology and that's that's a bit rough um so i definitely have my own bias i would love for us to start later i'm looking forward i'm grateful that this is an opportunity where we can consider it without having to um to cause our the disruption ourselves um i mean i will also anecdotally say we we've been living with in the current we've been living with the schedule

085as it is proposed and that's a really unusual opportunity to actually be doing a trial run of the change we're suggesting even even athletics because athletics had to wait for the remote kids to get on the boat after school and come to the island all of our school practices have been starting at 4 p.m even though we've been getting out at 2 30 in this pandemic year and that's what the rhythm would be in the proposed schedule so we we actually have really good experience ourselves of what the secondary experience would look like i think again the steeper hill is for our elementary program which is not getting that advantage of of getting that experience so no i mean the so the one thing looking forward is our elementary families like they will have middle

086and high school students later so although it's a disadvantage for them now it is an advantage when their kids are in middle and high school so i think it's the child care issue is probably the biggest issue with with elementary age students knowing that at some point someone needs to go earlier and so if someone needs to go earlier the research says it should be elementary but it creates a child care burden so that's the that's the debate yep so again we're really here to just say that we're ready to collect more information danny what's the timeline or slade what's the timeline on this just people can understand that we're not you know obviously we're not making a decision right right now right clearly we are not making a decision right now right just uh

087yeah again a couple things to emphasize and i appreciate everything that you that the both of you have shared with us tonight the uh one thing that we want to recognize is that the option of a single start time you know kind of an everybody start around nine o'clock uh would impact our budget significantly in the hundreds of thousands of dollars i think um matt do you have did you have a number kind of 298 000 yeah 290 yeah 298. so yeah and so um we did um that steering committee did eliminate that as an option and we've had some community input like wouldn't it be great if all of us could start and that would that would be some realignment of budget priorities that you're kind of you know that would require some significant

088um you know kind of bob you talked about this like it's a limited tie right and if you take that out we'd have to make some significant sacrifices so i just want to note that for our public that that option was taken off the table the next um is the is the timeline um and danny is is is accurate now we did agree we did some contemplation we want to begin this process right now in terms of getting more feedback from our public and community and then make a decision and prepare for a start in september or would we want to do this during the start of the school while we're doing strategic planning and potentially implement this at the second semester of next school year and i think conventional wisdom showed that we would

089be better positioned right now to make that kind of decision start at the beginning of the year rather than you know delay a decision uh to the to and then complicate it with a whole process of strategic planning that being said to answer the question we're going to do two nights tuesday and wednesday of next week are going to be evenings for we're going to share as much information as we have possible about potential times the impacts on athletics you know as much information as we can can with our public uh tuesday wednesday from 5 30 to 6 30 via zoom and but we want to you know kind of hold as much space for community to ask questions uh to give us things to think about to share their experiences so we'll we'll be

090doing that and then from there we anticipate the survey is to you know is already live today we saw uh at around four o'clock i think around 68 people had responded so it's gonna you know i think that those responses are going to pick up uh during covid we've had excellent response rates from from our families but also there's information in the current reflection survey that we sent out earlier and i just want to note that i read through about 98 responses today and many of them spoke about the secondary you know kind of experience and that that late start time in terms of those wishing to continue that experience on so we will have more information to share perhaps at the 27th meeting but i'm not anticipating a full kind of a full analysis

091but we you know right now the buildings are still collecting data amongst our staff you know and we only get to do that most of the time we get to do it during staff meetings to hear kind of firsthand experiences you know about what their teachers are and their classified staff are thinking and feeling about this change so really it's about presenting the bulk of the information at the june 10th board meeting for a first reading and then um kind of as in classic fashion for our board at the second you know meeting the 24th the board would take action you know so just that's so helpful thank you just one more thought i think um i'm just really thinking about our our working moms and single moms and our single parents who will probably

092be most significantly impacted by a change like this with younger children i just remember you know being a working mom somehow so often it feels like those child care duties fall primarily to you so um i really want to be sure we're listening to that group do you have kind of ideas or maybe about how to specifically do outreach to to that group of folks i mean we can ask our counselors i don't i'm not sure in this moment but i'm certainly happy to think about it and see if i can have a brainstorm that i'll share um but i you know i know just you know my therapy practice i think sometimes single moms it's really a struggle and you may not have as many of the resources um people you can depend on

093help you out so i'm sure we have a significant number of single parents and working moms who are probably the ones who kind of freaking out the most about this change with elementary kids so um just wanted us to keep it in mind absolutely yeah no thanks and i took some notes spring just to let you know about kind of this equity analysis we don't you know we don't currently employ you know any specific equity analysis tool to policies and procedures we know that could possibly be in our future but there are means and you know resources that we can leverage to to more target you know kind of feedback from our from our families i have a question um i understand the universal start time presents a significant budget challenge is there like one

094piece of that that's really expensive or is it a bunch of pieces is it the bus it's only one thing it's the buses all right the analysis was pretty thorough around looking at the routes and looking at the drivers and looking at how many like what the ridership is we went back and looked at the previous ridership trends before the pandemic and we would need four buses to add to the current fleet wasn't it four and so and there's no way around it and really we probably would like even another one to be honest just in terms of the ferry but we would need minimally four and so that's where that number comes from okay yeah okay thanks so bad and we looked at you know what ospi reimburses for using metro could we use

095metro would they uh would they give us um voucher i mean like we we really kind of dug into that even to really push on is that truly an immovable object and it really it came back as yes that was not there was no way around it thank you i'm glad that you dug into that with a detail i just want to say uh kudos on the process you guys the cadence and sequence of everything happening in the right order we don't want to make any process fouls we can still screw it up on the substance here but um thank you guys for the good work in terms of reaching out in the right order to the right people yeah right yeah okay well uh to be continued it'll be a good discussion and i

096hope everyone holds each other with grace and kindness during this time because we'll have different opinions um okay uh the epno levy slade are you or matt yeah so um matt and i have just uh essentially similar to our budget planning process just giving the board a kind of a quick to read timeline about our upcoming epo levy in 2022 uh really working back from the election in february and some of the processes and what that might look like this is again just a basic outline of the plan not really meant for it you know kind of intense discussion just kind of a spotlight or a flashlight as you will on what what this might look like moving forward i appreciate uh a work back timeline like this so it prevents surprises yeah and it

097always takes longer than we think it does right and time goes by so fast yes there is the possibility of kind of using our strategic planning process to um to to get some of the community you know kind of feedback and kind of sharing of of what our mission and vision will look like you know because really uh in an epno it's really about um you know sharing with the community what what kind of experiences we want to provide for their kids and and what that investment will look like uh because it's a significant investment for our community and i recognize that and uh we've been very careful about stewarding you know their their uh their their hard end uh dollars and their tax dollars um and so we want to make sure that we're

098a trend as transparent as possible but also sharing with them kind of what you know what are we what are these investments yielding so so this is the big kind of the beginning of that process okay anything to add matt um no not right now if you have any questions be sure to anybody have questions about this again more to come right okay great thank you thanks for pulling that together a second um toby's appreciation for that uh okay the resolution 792 um well-being yeah so um as as uh i think the board has as heard in our public has heard there are um there are esser dollars uh cares fund dollars coming to the coming to the district and those dollars come through the state the state legislators then move that through the you

099know kind of the the mechanisms and gears of ospi and then those dollars get distributed to to districts both through kind of direct uh funding and then through district through ospi grants granting and one of the measures of accountability similar to when we were last august ospi wanted to know that we have essentially you know all the operating protocols in place to safely open schools or you know kind of provide what those experiences you know as much as we could for for kids would look like these you know i also think it's very difficult for ospi or for the legislators to kind of fine-tune and pinpoint um you know 295 districts plans and to audit those plans and what those plans will look like and so what you see before you is a very broad

100uh you know kind of scope of and divide up into two parts in terms of academic recovery and then well-being and you'll see that you know what we're you know what we're identifying is here all the the assessments the tools that we use to assess you know kind of uh learning and and then what do we what are we going to learn from that and how we're going to apply that you know kind of in terms of interventions and then here are the assessments that we use for student well-being um and then what are they going to be the the interventions and strategies in place um again it's it's very difficult for us to know right now because we have certain assessments that we don't have the you know kind of the results back from

101um and so ospi right now is asking that we by june 1st that they that we provide them basically this this broad scope of of you know what what is our district doing right now in terms of assessing student learning assessing student well-being and then providing interventions for those they're not asking this is not like um a stephanie would know an eye grant process where you're actually really getting into the you know fine tuning of details with action plans and outcomes and who's responsible for those outcomes and you know i don't think that the capacity is there for ospi to to monitor that these are this plan is tied to ester dollars if we don't do the plan you know this planning then we don't receive the sr dollars um but thankfully enough i will

102say this that um when i was you know kind of filling the the plan out i was i'm very pleased to report that we have quite a you know kind of we have a great opportunity to assess our students um we have it is currently in our practice i will say what we what we're not good as that kind of this continuous cycle of improvement you know in terms of reporting out what our assessment results are and then what those interventions are and the you know kind of what happened so that's i'm very excited about our strategic planning because of that but in terms of this specific plan you'll see in the document all the assessments that we use all the you know kind of the tools that we use to assess student well-being i'm

103thankful that this year was our year for the cee or the ees survey and then again you know broadly speaking it just asked some very like you know kind of super broad questions at the end like what are you going to do to you know to monitor this and we're like well if we're going to monitor it you know there is an equity analysis uh around this and you know right now um we know that there are specific groups of students who you know don't we don't have any you know kind of equal outcomes for we know who those students are and i've identified those in the plan as well and so um this plan is just for a first read tonight if you know it's again superintendents and chris reichdel was very clear about

104this is not meant to be an exercise in in in terms of details because we don't specifically know what's what's on the horizon for us um but they want to uh give some assurances to our to our state legislators who are in control or you know who are accountable for these esser dollars going to buildings and this is kind of the first step in that unrelated or slightly related question do we have a spending plan for yes or dollars yes and that plan uh we're going to be presenting basically kind of how we're spending the dollars and what's currently been spent and what's on the horizon and what's being budgeted and that's going to go in front of the budget advisory board on the 27th and so um you know matt and kay have been

105planning for that uh kind of i've been giving some oversight but i will say not too much but we know that that is a those are questions in terms of what you know how are those dollars going to be you know how have they been allocated how have they been spent those that have our that we've already received and what's the plan for those coming up how does a fella get on the distribution list for those materials i didn't hear you sorry that again how does a fella get on the distribution list for those materials to the budget advisory board oh we just you know i know a guy you know a guy i do it i do know a guy so i yeah we can get this to you thank you yeah i'll probably

106just forward them to the board perhaps as an unintended uh consequence when i read through this uh in preparation of the media i was reminded of all the tools that we use across the buildings it's like it's almost mind-blowing but it was i guess i haven't seen them all in one document like this for a while and it's pretty impressive and then also give me a chance to look at what tools we don't use and uh be aware of that so i thought that was useful yeah i don't think i've ever seen a list like just straight out list of here's your here's everything is the reference the extra curriculars reference is that extracurriculars as we use the term or is it to a layman such as myself or is it does it mean something

107in it are there other extracurriculars in education world that do not apply to playing um each other or whatever yeah i i think it's intended as you know uh as it is for in terms of universal support um i think really what it what it means is you know how do we provide access for students you know to extracurriculars and how do we analyze that access and we did that about a it's i say a year ago and that was two years ago where we did analyze how our students are accessing those curricular extracurricular activities and we found a pretty you know representative example of of our students so this this will you know kind of bar in any further discussion we'll bring it up again on the 27th for a board vote and the

108resolution really is um you know kind of just cementing that the board approves uh you know this um this kind of broad scope of of services intended to you know support students academic recovery and their and their well-being okay any any anybody else questions are you guys all good okay great uh wiaa 2122 resolution number 794 so this is our annual just membership pledge that we are going to continue to participate and so does anybody have any discussion around this it is fairly pro-forma no questions okay all right it'll be exciting to have potentially a real real season next yes yes absolutely again i don't want to say anything okay so um reports uh will just be reagan and and me reporting about uh our fantastic trip our trip to mcmurray middle school yeah that's

109our travel plans mcmurray it was awesome reagan do you want to start uh sure so we had the opportunity to arrive just before the students did and we got a chance to watch how the students arrive and all the procedures that have been put in place to make that happen and and really in a good way it was anticlimactic it was it was so calm and so organized it was seemed a little strange really to be standing in front of a middle school and and have the kids that orderly and going to their entrance and getting themselves checked in and i want to shout out to again to the district technology department because the scanning um obviously expedites a process that would otherwise be you know pretty lengthy and being able to just zap it

110and and go certainly expedites that makes it an easy process for everybody um inside the building we saw that there's directional flow you know it's like you got your left lane in your right lane and there's obviously an effort to keep everyone moving to their destination classrooms and the spacings in the classroom is nice and we saw a lot of open doors letting the ventilation through as much as possible and so i think it was very impressive really how how um just kind of boring it was in a way i mean boring in a good way what do you think's about um i yeah for people who don't realize that i mean i i remember you know mcmurray is just this sort of calm of everybody milling about and now there's a eighth grade entrance

111seventh grade entrance sixth grade yes yeah i like reagan it's super calm it was it was really nice and also it was a beautiful day and so everybody's outside there were tons of staff out there and they were all making you know contact with students and really checking in and kind of that we see you we see you and then we yeah so as reagan said we went in school starts and then so we went into a bunch of several classrooms and the teachers i mean you'd almost think that that this is the way they've been teaching for years you know where they have the computer they you know so the kids online and then they you know so and it's sort of like the kids are in in the cloud in the cloud you

112know you can get a voice from the creator like anybody at home want to answer this and then sort of from above is like 75 yes you know and everybody's just i don't know they're just incredibly adaptable and and creative um it was you know i mean no it's no one's first choice obviously but they really have risen to the occasion and it was yeah and i think the students really deserve a shout out as well and you know in some classrooms the teacher is still remote and so the kids are showing up in person and being attentive and going through their lesson with a remote teacher and half their class remote so i think uh big kudos to the to the maturity and the you know the adaptability of our kids to be able

113to tackle that situation in a responsible and grown-up way and get their education going and it was fun to watch some of the some of the tech some of the teachers are able to use with appearing on the screen and you know the the board with the math and appears over there and you know and things were moving in real time there wasn't a big significant technology lag that you saw people have clearly become more comfortable with how this works and things whether you were in the room or out of the room they were seem to move in you know without a a lot of stop and start due to just the technology lag so um yeah i was really impressed by by the entire arrangement and uh especially i gotta say that that new

114staff break room was really nice for the for the teachers there so i'm glad we were able to make that happen for them and it was good we were asking greg about sort of the process i think of all three principals are doing this and they're in their buildings of sort of what what what what what's working that's worth carrying forward into the future and so that that's obviously a huge conversation um but you know what what can what what are the silver linings of this year so it was a it was a great visit bob i'm sorry you weren't there uh but i was happy i was happy to take your place all right i was happy to take his place yeah any anything else any questions i i i say i think i

115think we all agree we love the yeah the school visits are really i don't know how the teachers and the students feel about it when we kind of clomp in but it's great i know one board member uh when i reached out to to say that there'd be an opening uh was was not going to be welcomed yeah right you know on that visit so i was glad you were able to come zabet and and next month is the high school so and that will be our kind of final uh board type visit so in june that for kind of i think that first week of june so um who signed up for that am i um it's okay i know should i will they remind us yeah yeah no i i i will and

116i can actually i can share with you pretty quick get yourself together because i think we signed this up from like september didn't it that's true i'm sure i'd put it on my calendar if it was me it is true um how will that work i just don't want to snooze on the job actually it's it's um it's the 25th and so because we had to delay this one and that is uh spring and toby yeah there you go on the 25th and i will send a reminder okay thank you i'll put it in my calendar good to know okay all right well thank you and thanks mcmurray for having us we appreciate it definitely um okay decision uh camp laskowitz to camp south um we so rebecca presented um last time and i think

117the people might have more questions so sorry rebecca we might have to make you move again um stephanie's here as well and and stephanie yes right exactly and stephanie's here um yeah so this is uh this is the second yeah no second reading and a great opportunity for the board to ask more questions to get more information to have further discussion amongst yourselves and and then i will make a basically a final recommendation to the board and we expect the board to take action tonight okay so uh does anyone have who wants to kick this conversation off do you have questions for rebecca or stephanie anything that you want to like a review can you remind us blah blah blah kind of question or anything does anyone want to start no i was just appreciating

118what was included in our packet i'm thinking that this is new right i mean you shared verbally with us but i don't think we had this full written out anyway it's super helpful and i am glad that it's available to the public and i really encourage anyone who does have questions to refer to all the very helpful extensive detailed information that was included i think it answered a number of the questions that had been rattling around in my mind such as the purpose outcomes from you know outdoor education a lot of i think where i was my starting place um and it's all it's all right there beautiful thank you that was available last time and thank you for reading it i just wanted to say i've read it like toby said all the materials

119i followed this with great interest i have great affection for camp was quits um and then the notion of getting our little vermin off of an island and ride in the mayhem of a school bus to north bend is uh something i've done and it was great fun um and i just wanted to you know i plan to support this uh motion tonight when it gets made but um for me it's it's a one-year deal i would like to look at it sort of do an evaluation after one year and to all of those who think the board made the wrong decision i think you can but for me anyways i expect all of us we're going to do an honest evaluation and um we just not forever maybe in response one thing we are

120looking at is we do want to we realize we haven't been we haven't been gathering really great data about the experience like the like written accounts of why certain kids didn't go or um it's feedback from kids that were nervous when they went and how do they feel when they came back and so we do want to increase the data that we get back from kids so with this change to camp south at least we will we will have information coming back like that we can look ahead and make a better decision and a more informed decision in the future with um with that data if you say you want to look at it again in the future at least we'll have something to look at so we do plan on collecting that data and

121a great learning from reagan uh neurodiverse students i have never bob i cannot hear you uh neurodiverse students i had never considered that so i just uh that was an important lesson yeah i learned a bit of information i learned along the way here so i'll chime in on this one i think i expressed at the last meeting that i have a strong personal affection for ken bosco it's both as a when i went myself and as a counselor when i returned for a couple of years so i certainly appreciate the affection and the place that this program has had in our district for a long time um that said i plan to support this resolution and my thinking comes down on basically two fronts um the first of which is that we call it

122cam posquitz but what it is is outdoor education experience environmental education in a public setting away from our district in another setting so it's not camp in the sense of summer camp that you can choose to send your child to it's part of our public school system highline is a public school system and it's an outdoor environment educational experience that happens to take the form of a camp setting which makes it fun but it is a public education experience and if our school system is going to be available to everyone then we need to consider that camp wazkwitz is a product that we purchase currently and that we can replicate here and provide our own outdoor education experience so from the from the public aspect i i feel very strongly that it should be truly

123available to all of our public school students and that brings me to my second line of thinking which is that this is where when we talk about equity work this is where the work comes into it this is where we put the rubber to the road and we actually stand behind our terminology about equity part of the equity work is setting aside our beloved traditions in the name of inclusion even if we don't understand the issues for some of the people have not been included but once we understand that there is a barrier there whether we fully understand it personally ourselves it's our obligation to remove the barrier so that everyone truly has the opportunity to participate whether it's a cultural difference whether it's a neurological difference if you do not have a neurodiverse student

124you simply don't know what that some of the experiences of camp was quits are just not possible and so parents will make the decision rather than have their child be far away and have a crisis there they will set they'll choose not to send their child it's simply what any protective parent would do and some culture beliefs follow along the same lines and so when we say this experience is for everyone it's not people who are on the other side of that line will hear a different message they'll hear that it's an experience for the majority and we talk about equity but this system is not really concerned with my issues the majority wants to go the majority has the privilege and the ability to go and my group is not part of the majority

125but that is the work of equity it's not about the majority it's about the minority and making room for them and embracing their issues and making sure there is a way for them to be a part of an experience whatever the experience it is so i feel very strongly that as part of our overall equity work in the district and our mission as a public school that we should be looking at shifting to camp south and i'm very confident that between camp south and the vashon nature center and the fashion wilderness program will be able to create an outdoor environmental education experience in a camp setting that will be every bit as meaningful and educational as wascoitz has been and you know to the point about children leaving the island for an experience i think

126many of our children have that opportunity already i think they're blessed to live in environment i mean how blessed can you be to live environment say well this is boring because it's on vashon we have these this beach and these trails and these woods and these forests but you know we can do that anywhere on vashon we want to leave vashon to do that somewhere else and while i hear that opportunity i don't think that's an opportunity that only exists within the public school system i think children have the opportunity to leave the island and have those experiences in other settings at other times so that's why i'm voting for the change and i guess that's all i have to say at the moment thank you reagan great thanks reagan i'd love to speak for

127a moment if i may first of all i want to thank ron meyer for uh contributing public comment he was a principal at a couple of schools here on vacheron island and then i believe he ran uh or was involved with the operations at campbell squish for some period of time so i thought it was uh fun for him to comment i also appreciate mike correcting the record and the beast bummer yes and that uh it made me go back and find my camp powasquit's good camper award which was uh provided to me cabin d2 on march 22nd through the 26th 1982. so i was the second year 39 years ago almost to the date that i got this was reagan reagan was one of the counselors there and you know i've kept this i've

128kept this the whole time i knew right where it was camp was extraordinarily special for me in that experience so this uh this conversation has been very powerful i support the move to camp south uh from many of the reasons uh that that reagan shared and i see this as a real opportunity actually uh i see this as an opportunity to grow the program to include everybody to really ask ourselves the questions that matter to gather more data to see how we're doing and to you know create an ongoing experience that that we can see grow as a community and so um you know there's a piece of me of course that's sentimental and i'm i'm really excited about the opportunity now to really carry this program forward and and really grow it i think

129it's it's the right thing to do okay thanks toby um yeah i just want to appreciate and thank people who who wrote in and and you know like any of these kinds of things these are these are emotional decisions um i think as the board we're charged and it's hard but as we're charged to take the emotion out of this decision and really think about what's best for all of our students um and but it's not to say that we don't hear and feel like toby you're saying like and you know like there's heart there's a lot of heart involved in this and so i just want to thank everybody for to for sharing their you know so you know their pros and cons about about this um and i also um i i and

130and reagan i just think i i really thank you for your comments because i think it's it's it's really important um that we we take care of everyone and not just you know the you know 99 it's or you know the 98 percent whatever um and i and i agree you don't you don't understand how hard this camp is for someone if if you know just on so many levels unless you have a child who's gone through it and had had an extraordinarily hard time there and i think on the positive side i think that camp stealth will be fantastic and i think it'll be it'll be an interesting journey and and i also i also really love the questions that the fifth grade team came up with because i think that those are really

131good solid questions that will guide us about what we're doing you know really and really thoughtful so i appreciate how how they've been coming along and thinking about this yeah it's a real new opportunity yeah um spring do you have i just wanted to say i know it's a late night but just a couple more quick points um while this wasn't a decision that was being driven by the board i just wanted to acknowledge that when it was brought to us that all what champions i think of racial equity work dei work both rebecca and stephanie are so that i felt really confident there had been a lot of thought and discussion put into such a big decision by the time it came to our doorstep and i just i appreciate that again as reflected

132in that document and i wanted to say that you know i think again i echo what you said about the letter from the fifth grade team um that's i think so much important food for thought and and one of the things you know again about having that that tool or that framework that we're using consistently when we're faced with these kinds of decisions that we can um it's not just like a check box as we know but it's something we can use for consistency um but that there's this also opened up and and demonstrated how there's a lot of different definitions of equity and it's something that i think we're all really looking forward to the strategic planning process where we're going to really be able to have that common understanding when it comes to

133these really important terms that we're again these are like cornerstones cornerstones of this important work that we're doing together when it comes to our neuro-diverse kids when it comes to racial racial equity so um so i just think that that's something that really stood out to me um and lastly just how it isn't when we talk about equity it's not as though one group is losing and another group is winning equity is always about win-win because when we lift up another group we're always lifting up everybody and i just wanted to reiterate that um but i acknowledge that change can often feel like loss for people and in a time when we've experienced so much loss already collectively and people really missed probably westwood's last year so it hits home even harder but i think

134again shane can bring a lot of good things so thank you okay um any other questions from anybody's statement anything we're good okay thank you rebecca and thank you stephanie for for putting together this proposal and doing the the research and and sharing with us thanks the board for the thoughtful discussion tonight and um given uh the discussion and given the the information and that we've heard tonight i'm still recommending that we make the change from camp vlaska wits for our fifth graders to camp seattle okay uh move approval i have a second a second all those in favor aye aye aye motion passes okay thank you bart thank you thank you everybody involved thank you public and thank you staff for that uh okay um sorry my agenda just slipped away from me okay

135uh consent agenda do i have a motion to approve the consent agenda so moved second second all those in favor aye aye aye aye consent agenda is passed uh new business anybody got new business nothing okay do i have a motion to oh no i don't i'm always i'm like i just want to make a motion and so we the meeting is do i have a motion to adjourn thank you um do i have a motion to adjourn feel better yes i move we adjourn do i have a second second thank you all those in favor all right all right thank you thank you everybody for thanks rebecca thank you thanks rebecca i hope you heal quickly you you did it again board chair logging me up

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