001order the Board of Education meeting stand with me for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation God indivisible with liy and justice for all thank you is there a motion to approve the agenda so move second thank you all in favor say I I motion carries roll call finds us all present with the exception of Sarah who Harrison um is there a motion to approve um the regular Board of Education meeting minutes of February 25th 2025 and call session meeting minutes of February 2025 so move second thank you all in favor say I I motion carries um before we bring up our student representative I would like to say a few words on one of our board
002members that just recently passed um so the reflection on the life of and service of Mark Manel U Mark manel's Legacy is one of dedication leadership and unwavering commitment to education serving on the school board from 2006 to 2024 Mark played a vital role in shaping policies initiatives that benefited students Educators and the community Through his tenure Mark held multiple roles leadership roles excuse me demonstrating his versatility and deep understanding of governance as Vice President in 2009 2010 2017 and 2018 he helped guide the board through important decisions his financial stewardship as Treasurer in 2015 and 2016 ured responsible fisal fiscal management while his role as clerk in 2021 reflected his continued dedication to the board's operations Mark's leadership extended Beyond traditional roles as chair of the human resources Committee in 2007 2008 2009 2016
003and 2021 he played a key role in shaping policies that support his staff and strengthen the district's Workforce his efforts contributed to more effective and supportive educational environment Mark manel's service leaves an enduring impact and his years of commitment will be remembered as a testament to his belief in the power of education and Community his leadership and dedication has left the lasting imprint on the school district and those who worked alongside our condolences go out to his family and friends all right anybody else want to say any words I just think we're going to miss Mark yeah he was that voice right in that chair that was always strong and always certain and usually correct so I agree all right next on the agenda we have the student representative um today we have the Warner
004high schools Derek deona hi hi I'm Derek deona and I am a sophomore from George D Warner high school I will be substituting for Azie Bergie who usually represents our school was unable to attend today to to a schedule I'm going to tell you about some of the things that we have been doing at our school and some of the activities we have coming up um on the 1 of February a team of five from our school's National Honor Society competed in the sturgeon bow which is a trivia competition down in Milwaukee the event we competed in was the local chapter of the national ocean science full trivia competition our team scored bit out of the 11 teams that competed um recently the Warner Middle School and High School collaborated for a joint activity um
005uh they made uh trifolds for uh that were about the woman and stem and some of the woman and stem that were covered were local female professionals and the students who covered those professionals actually like interview them through Zoom calls and uh they ask you know relevant questions um our Esports team just wrapped up their winter competition in February it was a successful season for the Stu six students who competed against schools from across the state um later this week a group of students will be competing in the Junior Achievement challenge held at ACD uh it's essentially like a uh I believe like kind of like a stock uh I think it has something to do with stocks and insurance and it's kind of like a simulation and it's a competition too um next week
006our high school will be having our prea and ACT Testing over the last several months we have been preparing for a test in all of the test sections included um our art class has uh been working on a couple things they have been working on a mural in the hallway and they have also been working on this Rock and Roll Hall of Fame uh uh kind of activity if I think they're just making like uh pieces of art that represent I think either kind of themselves and other and artists I mean actually uh music musical artists that is um our National Honor Society um has been doing some things to um our Warner National Honor Society or NHS members are assembling Easter baskets for the Assisted Living Center um we are the NHS has also
007been compiling a group of high school students who are willing to offer tutoring services for other students um the National Honor Society is also our National Honor Society is also going to be competing in this clash of the sturgeons event it's like it's basically a a mock a mock competition or sturgeon B kind of like mock competition that's you know being it's you can always say it's more trivial than the trivia competition that we you know competed in February we're going to be competing against Appleton West High School um uh the this whole school is going to be going on a field trip on April 22nd to Coler company we're going to be touring their manufacturing facilities um we're also going to be doing the design center and the waist lab and then we will
008be meeting some of the professionals there who are in Steam careers which that's stem But the A is for art so just ex steps to include that um all our student council is preparing sorry is preparing for our School's prom event which will be held at the Stephanie h w Center on May 23rd it's been it's a busy time of year for work-based learning opportunities at the moment we have we we have two new students starting co-ops at Rock line and polyfab uh we also have about six students who will be traveling to Lakeland University for a work-based uh learning h event later this week the students will learn about youth apprenticeship opportunities for the coming year um as you may know and as some of you are about to learn um uh uh we
009have the Warner High School's been participating in this in the um university of Green Bay's Rising Phoenix Program our students uh have at the moment have an average GPA of 3.5 and uh at the um 10 at the moment are on track to earn an associates degree this year and over the last several years or last couple years that we've been participating in the program U our students have accumulated 757 college credits um that concludes my report thank you for having me represent our school does anyone have any questions anyone have any questions for dere impressive report thank you very yes what grade are you I a sophomore you are a sophomore excellent thank you so much very informative thank you D all right next on the agenda is community input is there anyone here
010for Community input all right and that there's none next we have the superintendent report good evening so last week was re Across America had an opportunity to get into uh number of elementary schools and different classrooms and always a fun fun time to get in and lead with kids and see the excitement uh in the building uh just a great great time great staff great kids um fun to get out so I appreciate the invites and being able to do that um if you've seen Shaban Sun South High art Department did a um collaboration with three sheeps brewing for their rup beer cans and of course in Grant poly fashion I think before that ever hit the machines he was uh texting them how he could donate money back to the program so it's just
011a great partnership um and really cool to see that out in the community uh Brian at South and Frank at North is this kind of Department leads just to amazing things for our students and with our art department so we're so fortunate to have them and uh just really neat really neat things going on there um Mike and I were over at North High School to help sell celebrate the state championship for Esports um what were they playing I feel like an old man fortnite fortnite so they were stay Champs in fortnite it was really neat the kids were excited um nice little celebration and uh just a cool cool thing see how schools are changing and evolving and um what kids get engaged in and really a fun thing for them so uh congratulations
012to to that team and we'll read off the names just so they get a little public recognition was Alexandra Alexander Hernandez Owen hornacle Ethan Rayborn and Jet Bening house so congratulations to those four and they're coached by Dan D th um you heard about the Warner schools um women in stem that was also published in the Shaban Sun so really kind of neat neat piece that they did there to celebrate um interviewed some women that that work in in stem careers and obviously motivation for their students um and thanks to Mary Lynn for attending the wasby school law conference uh was a good conference learned some some things that we can definitely bring back to the district and that that professional development is always appreciated and I believe I'm with Peter and Ally tomorrow and
013Madison for a day at the capital um so we look forward to talking with our representatives and advocating for the uh Shaban Area School District we've been told to come prepared with our budget transfer for special EDS so 14 million Mark that's where we are so that continues to be an important number for all of you to to know and to understand and that'll be on the tip of my time tomorrow as we meet with our legislators so that's all I have for you this month Jake are they having all the legislators in one group or are they breaking into we'll have individual meetings with a couple different just a brief comment my daughter was in one of the classrooms that you read in during read Across America and she said that you made jokes
014after reading the book and you were actually actually [Laughter] funny seems hard to believe I don't know astonishing Cleveland yep yeah was poor teachers because we walked in and they were clapping they it was third through fifth grade in the library having the time of their life and I absolutely got them off track and fired up and I tried my best to settle them down when we were done I don't know if I did that I had a lot of fun I like it thank you any other questions all right thank you Dr Conrad next we have strategic long range plan quarterly review Dr to Rachel Mark oh and Jamie yeah so I'll just kick this off here again we're going to highlight specific areas under which one objective always feel free to ask questions
015uh uh any of the goals or objectives if you have any and I just continue to really appreciate all the work that EMT does to uh make sure that we stay on target with these goals so I'll start with Rachel okay um so I was actually feeling pretty good as I was prepping for today because we've actually brought to you all as a forward um quite a few updates related to the goals that we have outlined so I'll just highlight under goal number one I'll highlight two um objective five is really around the professional development plan that we previously updated you all on last month um so you're aware of that work and you have here indicated that we are on track for that one and then earlier today we provided an update related to
016act 20 uh we are on track for the whole board to meet the requirements under act 20 and we shared that at the cni committee so if we flip ahead to go number two I just want to highlight objective number to and that is around exploring ways in which artificial intelligence technology can be used to enhance and find efficiencies with in District Operations and for that one I want to recognize all the work that Mike Jaber our coordinator for instructional technology has been doing with his team so they are piloting they've number one researched different AI tools and now they're piloting some AI tools at the end of the day we want to be able to leverage technology to increase productivity and lighten the workload of our teach futes and we believe that some of
017these technologies that we're exploring will be able to do that so um they'll continue to Pilot these throughout the rest of the year and then they'll make some recommendations around us allocating resources to support these tools for our staff the other piece that um he and his team have been engaging is really around finalizing some AI guidelines he's worked collaboratively with the students so really getting that student voice to the table having them because they are um I would say more natural users of some of this technology than maybe teachers or um even their their adults in their lives may be but he's worked with that team of students students from South and North High School to be able to come up with some guidelines and now those guidelines have been finalized as a draft
018to be pushed forward to Administration ultimately for um approval he'll also will be doing that same work with the staff just setting some guidelines around as this technology emerges and we know that it's in use um in the world but then also in schools how do we make sense of it as an education system and then for goal number three objective three you all will actually as the next agenda item you'll get a comprehensive update around our mental health framework and I believe that once we've provided that you'll see how objective three really connects to that overall framework and it really in many ways is an added support but it's part of our overall goals and the things that we're doing around mental health making sure that our students have a place where they have
019a sense of belonging we have a strong School climate and then we have supports layered in for them so I won't steal them Thunder we'll have Jason and a social worker come up to and I'll let her introduce herself to tell about our mental health framework and they'll also highlight where we are with objective three at that time all right so that was it for am I okay so pillar two goal one um I am going to highlight objective three this goes uh along with um Jake had mentioned earlier which I didn't even notice but I'm partnering with uh the North and South art teachers as well so Brian Frank and Danielle uh what we're doing is we're creating personalized um retiree gifts or retirement gifts um so the HR department is purchasing everything needed
020and then the students and the North and South art classes are working on the actual gifts which are going to be ceramic mugs with the SD logo and I already saw one of them they're they're beautiful so if we do have enough I probably will share some with this group but um we shall see how how it all works out but really great collaboration and like I said Brian um Frank and Danielle have just been fantastic and so I'm excited to see how this all comes together um so then pillar two goal two um itive two uh we implemented and and we've trained principles and supervisors on a system called cross check uh essentially it's an automated reference check system and um we we just have been spending so much time on calling for references
021and so again technology is a wonderful thing we're able to get references back sometimes within two hours which sometimes would have been uh we have taken us almost a week to try to get someone on the phone so so far um we're really liking the system and um and it's helping a lot I will take pillar three goal one and really pillar three goal one and goal two are um going to come down to two rather large projects that we hope to have implemented in time for um next school year start of next school year um and that's a two-way communication tool with parents uh between school and parents and then the new District website so um really looking at all the capabilities of of that right now is is quite a bit of fun
022um it's fun for me it's probably not so fun for Nicole and for Lisa um but what those platforms can do is pretty amazing so we should have a a very solid uh communication tool in place between school and home we saw that presentation there that technology just keeps getting better um every single day as well so fun to work with and then we're learning as we go the build out possibilities so there's maybe an opportunity to um start hosting some of the board stuff um on the website rather than SharePoint Etc just trying to bring everything together um under one platform I think would be would be really helpful so that's our goal um there between those those two um goals and objectives and I think we're we're making good progress uh we meet
023with our project manager regularly once a week we're on track um so we we're hopeful for the start of next school year if we need to break we' do it over Thanksgiving um takes you got to have a little time to to implement and go live but um I think that'll be a nice nice addition for the district from a communication standpoint with that I will pass it on okay uh pillar four goal one just want to highlight a few things with the uh uh Middle School referendum projects um a big one is we received on December 30th are uh the proceeds from our first borrow so uh the district received 93 million we have those um dollars working for us so that we can uh gain interest on those and and use that money
024towards the projects also um the core planning team uh went on in January did some visits uh to some middle schools to tour them again and uh larger group including some teachers will now be going uh that the 31st of March 31st they'll be touring schools too as Bray is starting to meet with individual departments and look at details of classrooms specific to what they teach and meeting with those groups so we're moving along really nicely um and and uh we hope to have uh some clear pictures of what the actual design of those buildings will be pretty soon here so um so that's all exciting stuff as we uh work towards that goal uh goal two uh I want to highlight uh objective one uh for uh secondary data center uh the technology team
025has completed the eate application and has um that's going to hopefully pay for a lot of the data center Hardware that's needed for that so we're waiting to hear back on that application and then goal three around Transportation um right now they're uh conducting wayfinder testing on the buses this is the uh student tracking system so they have that up and running on a number of buses and they're just troubleshooting at this point seeing uh seeing how working what things do they need to fix we want to make sure that we have all the bugs out of there before we do that start a next school year and let the parents know and uh it's going to be a little bit of a learning curve for all the kids getting in on and off the
026bus but we want to make sure the bus drivers are all know how the system works first too so um we're pretty excited about that and um I still have that status as yellow as we are working through those bugs but we hope to have those uh ready to go for next year all right than any questions for is there I seem to remember that there had been some talk of community meetings with the Architects or or just Community input um for both middle school projects or was I just hallucinating yeah I don't know if we have any at large meetings out there okay scheduled yet that something we could could discuss with Bri um I know we did talk about that at one point um but I think what when we have some firmer
027plans we would like to maybe have some um updates that would go out to the public I know Nicole just put out an update um but we really don't have any plans to share yet sure but I just in general in the in the general construct if there's some thought of that yeah okay yeah agre I think they'll when we talk I remember speaking to that and it was some neighbors that were interested in what the exterior look would be specifically at Farnsworth as well and he said we can certainly come back and get feedback um so we can talk with pre about strategies to do that absolutely do it like an open meeting or open Event like we did pre referendum just kind of giving people a chance to look at design and we
028hope to have a detailed uh update for you at the next board meeting so we're real close on finishing the floor plan um just working on locations of a few programs within schools and things of that nature but um again I slightly had a schedule there with with Bray so feeling good about where we are at the moment I was going to bring up the same thing over but it was around our conversation with future planning I think it was pillar three goal two objective one and I know we had the conversation about a a really structured facilitated Community conversation kind of a planning but in the absence of moving forward with that are there other things that we can be doing to work back up to that rather than saying we're not going to
029be doing it right now we are we decided on that but what are the other pieces so that we can still be moving forward um with those Logistics I just had a question on on that new um Implement imp implementing that way finder is that each student will be identified when they get on the bus and when they get off is that going to work yeah so that we can look on that system if uh if a parent would call and say my student get didn't get off the bus or he didn't get home um you know right now what we have to do is we you know we call the driver do you remember did get on where did he get on you know so this would be uh we could easily look and
030see yep he did get on the bus oh he got off at this address the parent might know oh that's his his best friend he must have gotten off with his friend or um it also helps us with u you we've had that audit finding where um we do the manual attendance it's not always a good way to do the attendance so so do they wear something or is it like a little scan yeah they'll be a little card they can attach to their backpack and then they just kind of I don't have to swipe it I think it's just a tap right especially with the little one yeah yeah great thank you are there going to be any security measures in place like if parents calling in like for somebody else's child like are
031there going to need some like a pin number or something the parent can use for their child versus like if I know somebody else's child say Hey where's Mark belky he's supposed to be home good question oh you mean if if how do we verify that the parent calling is is actually the parent yeah um yeah we'll have to we'll have to find it is probably a easy way because we have all the parent information in our D our transportation database so we we can ask a simple question that would help us verify that it's the parent calling yeah absolutely we don't have a lot of those but when it does happen it's very scary when a parent doesn't know where their student is and we always you know we can get there but it
032takes a lot of phone calls and sometimes you know that's really anxious moments for the parents so but um I agree we'll have to have some sort of verification process that we can ask the person calling in so just a stranger good point any other questions all right thank you thank you for your work so far um next we have the mental health framework update Rachel Jason candra thanks as we do musical chair um so I will actually turn it right over to Mr leaderman and Cassandra they put together a really comprehensive of report around our mental health framework and what I ask for them to do is really talk through those levels of support that we have in place within our district um is really important we feel like for you all as a
033board to understand but also our whole Community to understand all the wonderful things we have in place as well as recognizing that by having these things in place it make school um a place where students can access their learning and be successful and it creates that positive School climate so with that I'll turn it over to Jason leader and yes we can do that um and because SRA walk us through it all right good evening everyone thank you for uh um for letting us speak on our mental health and behavioral supports within our district um case if you want to introduce yourself yep um I'm Cassandra leac or Casey um I'm a school social worker in the district primarily at Horseman Jefferson and James Madison um so for me as we know many of our
034students and community members um have struggles with with mental health conditions so uh what we want to provide today for you is just really an update of our mental health and behavioral supports uh within our district and how we provide those supports to our students um our staff in order for them to acquire the skills and healthy um habits of mental Wellness um in our update we're going to go through three areas we want to speak um specifically on our Equitable multi-level systems of support uh related to mental health we want to speak be speaking on um the new initiatives um around mental health that we've um implemented this year within our district and then also the expansion of Our Community Partnerships um So within our district um we have um a mental health steering
035committee a district level steering committee um this committee is made up of representations of our people Service uh Team within our district um including uh School social workers school counselors School uh psychologists case of being School social worker part of that committee our principles um represent principles from elementary middle school and high school um school nurse and myself is also serving on that team um and that team is really an oversight committee uh within our district um really looking at that proactive approach uh to enable support our students and staff specifically around that me around mental health um we really look to align this group is really look to align uh our work with the work of of the district so our mission and vision vision is very aligned to um to the to our
036district and we're really looking um to help support that mental Wellness through data um driven collaboration um strong relationships and Community Partnerships um around our mental health um we really are looking at it from a m Equitable multi-level systems of support so the support of mental health of our students it's not a cal approach it's not done in isolation we really uh work to um implement the work of mental health in with the rest of our systems that we have within our district around academic supports RTI with in in addition to those behavioral supports so it's really important that um we we focus that mental health is just not a standalone it's embedded in all of our work um by our staff um within our district and really it's a continuous level of support it's
037a Non-Stop um it's continuous cycle of that level of support So within that Continuum um we it's a tiered approach um so we know students have different needs and have different and have different levels of support so we really are looking to support that through that one two three levels when speaking spe specifically around mental health um students are on that that really they they fall within a cycle um we see that cycle so may majority of our students are really in that well area um and that's supported through that mental health promotion where we do recognize um students um sometimes begin to have challenges um once we start to see those challenges we want to really try to provide that early intervention um and if some our students continue to have those increasing challenges
038that's when we really look into that treatment and then from there into recovery um and from that point again it's a continuous cycle um where they're hopefully back into that living and Recovery um or in that well but we also know that uh students with uh different mental health conditions they're continually going through that cycle um and we just we are really focused to make sure we have whatever they're on in that cycle we have the supports in place for them to be successful um in our school setting I'm going to speak first on our just our um our Universal levels of support um that's really that Foundation of we can provide and we really believe a strong Universal level support is is so important we need to have that and we really strive to
039do that um and that's really to help promote that at positive social and emotional and behavioral skills and overall Wellness for our students um provide many examples of different Universal level support from ate um early as early as our um Early Childhood to Elementary um through guidance lessons um through PBIS Cool Tools um those supports are provided at the middle school level um during high school the high school health curriculum um they're in their um their school advisory lessons um those approaches are are introduced taught um we um through our entire District restorative practices fully in place um we provide a mental health newsletter to our middle school and high school students uh promoting U mental wellness and resources uh provided to them within the school and within our community um trauma informed care um
040is just really that lens that our we we work with our teaching staff and work through that lens as as they are working with students um um in their classrooms outside their classrooms in all settings um we another area is this our student advocacy organizations so at our high schools and middle schools um we are really promoting and our students are really promoting that mental Wellness uh to their peers and also reducing stigma around mental health and mental we or that mental health so at um North and South High School we have an organization called peers for peers at our middle schools horis man Urban and Farnsworth is a red gen program so it really teaches that resilience through education for the next generation and then at our Charter couple of our Charter Schools uh
041Central and A2 schools is a program called source of strength again all this is around that universal student advocacy around mental wellness and also reduction of stigma around mental health um and then finally our Universal approach that we provide is a best Universal screener so this is a um teacher completed mental health behavioral screener U that we've implemented over the past 5 years starting as early as early childh Hood um this year moved it to seventh grade and next year to 8th grade um so twice a year our teachers are are providing a screening of of their students and it's looking at 25 different behaviors that they are answering questions around and the purpose of that is really for us um staff to be able to identify the strength of of our students around these
042behaviors and it's internalizing and externalizing behaviors but also it does um bring up if there are some challenges for students in these areas um there is targeted interventions already implemented for those certain behaviors for those students that they could be implementing uh to support those students our buildings then also use this information for uh maybe at the elementary elementary level classwide intervention if they see it's it's a behavior that's a high for for their for their class building level we also use this information from a district level identifying where are strengths of our students and where are some challenges are around those behaviors um and our we're current actually our staff are right in the middle of the spring screener at our last fall screener um just a point of Pride for data purposes we
043had 83% of our students um from that EC to seventh grade were identified as as healthy um so that's a great number um obviously there's students that do need um some additional challenges or supports in case he's going to to speak on that tier two and I'll just jump in really quick and I know that Mr leaderman has said this but just when we're thinking about those tiers of support that tier one is all students get a those things that Mr leaderman has just highlighted and he said was that statistic 83% so that means that for 83% of our student population those things are working and then we layer on tier two where some students might need that and then tier three where a few students might need that yeah um so tier two adds
044an additional layer of support for students um so we have sa groups um these are School culture run small groups um evidence based interventions for students um who need more intensive instructions on a variety of different um topic areas uh behavioral intervention plans are strategies and goals uh that can address student behaviors within the classroom setting um the attendance checking program is kind of a take on the traditional attendance um short-term group but instead of a six to eight week group we take it and we kind of expand it through the course of the school year um because having the long longer connections and relationships we found is a better strategy for attendance versus a short 6 to 8 we um connection right it's just a short this way um we're meeting B monly with
045these students and B monly um with the group and bonly individually to just really build on that relationship um we have Community mentoring uh great Partnerships with Big Brothers Big Sisters lots of um sasd students um use these as an amazing resource to build positive connections and relationships um under the wing is a uh creative program that is a peer mentorship um it was created by two South High School students um who piloted at Horseman uh last year and has since really has the program has grown um and have we've seen some positive connections um between peers through that program um cement is um allows staff uh to provide evidence base grof treatment uh to children who are suffering from traumatic stressors several sasd pupil service staff are trained in this um and then the
046last one on this list is uh get kids ahead so get kids ahead is a grant support supported through um the Department of Public Instruction um we really have targeted that uh by focusing on students who are struggling with anxiety uh small groups within the middle and high school levels um and over the last three years um over 250 students have been able to come in um be part of that intervention um it's been very successful lots of positive feedback from uh parents and students um and we're continuing to look at different ways to kind of expand that um and uh recently at Horseman we talked about adding um an addition for our El students or uh English Learners because they're a targeted population that is often kind of uh missed because of the language
047barrier can I interject quick yeah absolutely thank you so I just had a couple of questions so when are those check-ins uh for the 83% or whatever tier that they're on like what part of the day do they check in for the for the attendance program well for any of these um interventions so like if there's an issue or a student is having some issues is it like before school like when they first get there is it on a lunch break like I just want to know like when do they check in or is it just whenever they need you students can check in whenever they need some students have plans where they can come in the morning and stop in by pupil services and just kind of process with us before they start their
048day we have lots of students that eat lunch by us and do quick check-ins um so it depends on uh it's kind of a need by need situation and my next question I know with the the tier supports how discreet is it when it gets to the more severe level or more heal needed um everything things confidential um obvious so like for instance for the get kids ahead group um the group leader is very uh uh starts every group with reminding the group that everything that's talked about in the group stays within the group whenever we do any type of group we have students sign like a group contract that says you know they're not leaving they're not leaving and they're about telling other peers you know about what had been said in the group
049um so I we try to be as discreet and confidential as we can especially as we move up the te yeah and and we have different data points um and we'll be able to let us know if those specific interventions that students may be in at tier two level as being successful and then if we're feeling that based on some of the feedback um discussion with parents and students that that next level of intervention is needed then we would move to that again this is but again as as u m l Desma mentioned um they're all receiving the universal and then it's that second layer of tier two and then in a moment we'll we'll talk around that two or three that intensive level support that we can provide in our district got it thank
050can have he said sure okay good want to ask question where do the parents get involved like after this screening how do you bring parents into this and do they have to sign a permission that they can interact with some of these uh uh groups I guess that you provide yeah any type of tier 2 intervention that a student is um participating communication is going to the parent so they're they're aware of that and and understand that that level of support we're we're providing or we want to provide to them so that communication is certainly part of that um part of that process and do they get if they want to see a curriculum of gets kids ahead as far as what they're targeting or talking about especially you know when you start talking about
051some mental health issues like anxiety and are parents aware of that yes they're aware of that um they're aware of the the individual um person that is Dean white is a former school counselor also therapist um he's providing those he's a retired but he's providing that support so we introduced we communicate that to the parents who this individual is and how to contact so if they do want to have that communication about what is discussed and provided them that that lens is there and that opportunity is certainly there so if they don't want their child to participate that is when we interject with them and let them know Well absolutely if if the parent doesn't would choose not to um we respect that decision um and we would also then look at if that's not
052right for them we have other opportunities other interventions that we would certainly welcome them to and I would uh parallel this to like the academic side of schools right so like if we had if we identified a student that needed a tier three intervention that reading specialist that interventionist is going to be communicating with the family to let them know that that intervention is needed what skills they're working on how their child's progressing with that it's the same way when we talk about some of the social emotional behavioral supports that we provide we have the same exact um parental participation and options as far as communication goes and if they want their child to be able to access that service this is a service we're providing to our students um through our schools and just
053to follow up my last question is if they are involved with a private therapist or like Social Services involved how do we do that release of information or how do we engage all the services so if they are attending let's say if they have a social worker with the Department um the parents have to release that information right so that as a district you can get and if you're not if you don't receive that then you can't engage in that right you're you're exactly right so um especially for students when they're getting at that higher level of support a tier two and we're tier three um and we know that they have um Partnerships within the community outside partners and support we certainly look to um uh bridge that and provide though we offer a
054release of information so we can have that back and forth conversation in the best interest of the student so we can help provide the right type of support and do you provide it on a weekly basis or you said by by monthly or um so the attendance check-in program is um gr we do groups um by monthly and on the off month I do individual sessions with the students to try to kind of connect and problem solve with them great thank yes um talking about parent involvement and um choice I recently learned that in Wisconsin children 14 and up have the right to refuse intervention in mental health care unlike reading intervention they can't come in and say I I don't want extra reading have you encountered that at all have you encountered anyone refusing
055Mental Health Services um maybe they don't know I I guess I can't speak to that because i' I've not heard that from any of our high school be Premier that's the high school level I've not heard of any of our staff that I've spoken with have have suggested that or that that that has come forward but I guess I'll put my pupil Services hat on from when I served as a director too previously I guess I would say this right like our mental health professionals are just that they're professionals and they're experts in their field so if a student is if their ident find a student that needs a service or support they're going to have that conversation to some level with that student but also with that parent right and if the student is
056not willing or wanting to consent or participate in the service then we're not going to force that on them yeah absolutely um and um again if it's not the right intervention if students not participating in their intervention then as as Rachel mentioned we would not continue with that um we maybe look at a different option for them or different opportunity um but it's got to be the right fit for them and try to Target specifically what their needs are so so far students have been willing to participate and actively participating I I would I there are certain occasions and we'll talk about with um when we get to the path there students that won't engage with their path therapist and so if that's the case um we have a wait list um so we move
057them move them out um put them back on the wait list um there might be an opportunity in the future but there there's other kids that students that are in that me thank you great questions thank you um so it then as we we're talking about the tiers of intervention um there are students um we know within our district that need um that higher intensive individual intervention that targeted intervention um because of specific concerns around functioning of their daily living so these are some examples of tier three supports that we are connected with within our district that we can help support a student and their parent um path um is providing access to Healing and I'll talk about that a little bit more in depth on our next slide um but that's been a program
058that's been um very healthy in our district um for the past at least 7 years that I've been with within our district um we look at U Partnerships with Spen County Department of Health and Human Services and rap Services um for students um specifically uh there's a c c program that's a child assessment team which we will partner with uh with with the county which providing support not only to the student but the parent uh and those indiv idual needs um espert is a program specific for um substance abuse um um for our high school middle school students um it's screening brief intervention and referral to treatment and what that really provides is some goal setting and some individual supports of students around subance substance abuse and that last item is Catch My Breath and
059that's a vaping uh intensive support that are that's provided at our middle school and high school um how are kids referred specifically to the catch breath program that's something that was new to me and I'm I'm really interested to know what the referral process looks like that process is if if a student is um has a violation on at school at the school level um that is brought forward to remember we put the vaping sensors in the bathrooms yes it's a good ah got you but truly it when we did that we said this isn't about catching kids and punishing right this is about catching kids and helping kids so it's it's a really nice opportunity to be able to look at a and say hey what are we going to do this isn't a
060good choice how can we help you good solution and it it's that program is educational based and also um it's a process that can go through instead of um consequences so there's a proactive approach to address a vaping sounds great um as I mentioned um the path program I just want to highlight some of the things within our path again this has been a program in our district for at least the past seven years um that's really been in depth in our program over um a number of our buildings and this is a partnership with shoran County um United Way and specifically our therapists um are partnering with us with from Lakes Shore Community Healthcare um this program just continued to grow and the purpose behind this um this service is really to reduce barriers
061for services um we know within our community um we have a great amount of uh service providers around mental health but availability after school time can be very limited so this provides an opportunity for students to get that Target tared intervention targeted um mental health support in the school setting during the school day so it breaks down those barriers there is no Financial uh burden to families um additional cost like on a co-pay situation that is covered for families so there is no cost to our families around there beyond that that insurance so just some some numbers um just from at this point in the school year again we have 17 path therapists that are working within our district um at all schools um we have this just at this point this year 385 students
062have received received path services this year that's almost 4% it is 4% about of our our student population 4600 uh therapy sessions so just highlight the high demand and success of that program this year we initiated a family therapy um branch of that so uh the therapists if they identify as working through that with that student that part of their service needs is there's a a parent or Family Impact that would help to move that student forward that is a piece where path is extended so they will reach out to that parent and invite them to be part of a family sessions short-term sessions for this is that would that be in conjunction with the individual sessions like would the would the student receive both individual and family sessions that's an addition to that's fantastic
063um I think about the work that I did in the past um I was a an in school provider in the school district of wakha and okam are school districts and the one weakness I saw in those programs is the parental involvement so having the family sessions that is fantastic and it really goes along with the mission of strong relationships so that's awesome we we do everything better than ell I got jokes um which grade levels does path you geta with yeah Ser they serve as students from the early childhood 4K all the way up to 12th grade um and then we have a number of mental health initiatives that we've implemented um this year school year and continue to implement and it's really from the work of our mental health steering committee we complete
064a assessment annually um it's called the school of health assessment performance evaluation system to shape and what that does is helps us to assess um our strengths along looking at our systems within the district and also maybe some gaps in services or gaps in programming so these are just some um initiatives that we are implementing uh to help support our students um one is the return to learn return to learn is we know a number of our students are out of school for a length of times for could be wi ranging from mental health or it could be help just general hospitalization for a health condition um students that are in Secure detention for a period of time this program helps to put a process in place to help them to um as they return
065to school so we can support them and their teachers can rightly support them so it's a good transition a better transition back into the school setting in case I know was going to speak next she she chairs these next two subcommittees within our district um so the mental health newsletter started um as a trauma newsletter that was sent out to staff um as kind of the trauma sensitive School initiative to keep that going um and has grown into this mental health newsletter um that we sent out to staff still but we have now also sending it out to um elementary and middle families and middle and high school students um lots of wonderful resources in there that are um related to mental health and we also have put in Community Resources um to try to
066continue to just provide resources to families um from a variety of different we have um the food pantry and they're United Way all sorts of different um resources for them um lots of positive feedback U from families we I specifically asked for feedback um because I want to know what people would like to see in there um and that actually is where the resources have come from that people are wanting that those Community Resources um so it just it's been really positive and I hope it continues to grow we've um averaging about 700 um individuals accessing the newsletters monthly that's online it is yep now is that different from the one mentioned under the tier one where you talk about District newsletter y it's a same newslet and there's so there's not a staff one
067there is a staff there is there staff staff parent and student student and family yep that we do send out monthly and so you mail it out but anybody we send it out through Skyward to Skyward yeah it's not on our website though it's not we can't access it's in our PowerPoint if you click it it's in the PowerPoint but I mean otherwise yeah here it is but as part of our website with the adoption of potentially I knew I worked with talk with Nicole about how we can um add some of these supports within our website so it's also there so from from Community can access it there we just we're intending to do it this year but we put on pause until we can Implement that new website oh okay great yeah so
068then we'll be able to access that absolutely that's great that was mine I would love for high school parents to be able to have access that to that as well because right now high high school parents are not included in that certainly do that H that we're about to get into a bigger conversation before we go in into our our next part of the presentation I just wanted to say how incredible like it's so comprehensive and thinking about how it's grown so much over time as somebody who's really closely connected to you know to this I've lost students to Suicide as recently as last year I've also had students who have gone into intensive therapy and have gotten the support that they needed through schools and are now flourishing and I just this is some
069of the most important work that I think that we do um it has to be alongside the way that it is so well embedded into our multi-level systems of support is huge but I I do think that we're doing this better than anyone else in the state and I we have some of the highest areas of need in the state as well um so thank you so much for I was going to say this but I'll say it um you're you're absolutely right Ally right like I feel like the work that we're doing here can serve as a model for a lot of districts having other places when we think about the Community Partnerships to be able to partner with organizations to bring in path when we think about the resources we have as far
070as the stronger connections Grant to make some of this work possible when we think about the fact that we have mental health professionals in all of our schools and our students have access to that the level of professionalism and expertise that they bring to our school communities as well as the services that they're providing the Capac capacity that they're building within our staff and then I also want to give this um gentleman Kudos I had the opportunity to serve under him and learn lots of leadership skill under him and a lot of this work would not be happening if he wasn't leading the work along with all of our other colleagues so I was going to say that until the end but I'll give that to you next I'm GNA pile on real quick as
071well I think sue you probably remember I I can remember these conversations and I was sitting in the back at the time listening to Larry and David and you talk about this saying you know if we do this this is going to have a big impact on the kids in our district and what it would and at that time we were just trying to do one bullet point right like how fast we have leveled this up in the last eight years is it's mindboggling so yeah a ton of credit to Jason and his team I'd like to make the comment too I I remember when I was teaching having a young man come into my classroom in the middle of the school year with no background on him at all and I went to the
072back of the room and he was carving in the desk with a knife and I said to him excuse me can you give me the knife please we don't do that and we had a conversation and then eventually we made our way down to the office and then later on the administrator involved said to me you do realized that he came to your room right out of wine Bago Mental Health Institute I'm like yeah no I no idea like he clearly was deeply struggling and there was not much other than a school guidance con help him and now I look at all of this and I it just it's a point of Pride that I would put up against any school district anywhere um that being said I really want to hold on to this
073and I don't know how how this is funded you know we in difficult times right now and I I don't know can you just give me a rough idea how much of this is Grant funded how much of this we fund personally I mean can we sustain this if we lose the Department of Education and federal funding yeah I I think a lot of this is um some of it's funded through grants um some of it is just really hard work by the current staff in that we have um it's a lot of their work so you think we can hold on to most of it regardless I believe we can hold on I I truly believe we're going to hold on to this and we'll keep working we're going to keep expanding it United
074Way Community Partners thank we thank them as well right A lot of people at the table making this happen a lot of our you know Community organizations are are putting there some of their dollars to help seel support the work of what's in the community which also ties in some of the work we're doing here in our building um I just want to comment on a couple other I know we we've got one more area we want to address but just um if you want to just to speak briefly on our suicide task force we a lot of point of Pride with the work on on in this team yeah so our suicide task force um has was tasked to create a um a uniform uh suicide assessment intervention for all people's staff to use
075so with people service feedback and the committee working together we have finalized that and all people service staff have been trained in that um so our biggest thing is for September we're working with um uh uh Mental Health America excuse me um to help promote suicide awareness month which is September so right off the back when we start the school year um to spread awareness um you'll also see when if you walk through um schools that the 988 hotlines are posted for everywhere for our students to access and the last item on this this initiative we have some others but I just want to comment on this project aware Network Improvement community so we're we're one of 12 districts um we reached we're DPI cisa reached out to us to join this so what this
076is is a um it's a project uh supported through DPI and it's really around helping to support staff um and help their um just overall health incre increase productivity um just supporting them in order to help best support students so around this work is really we're focused around the the professional quality of life and organizational well-being So within this um we've um North High School and Jefferson Elementary were two of the schools I reached out to to see if they wanted to be part of this initial work just from a smaller level but they are continually working on um small plan do study acts um so identifying um one small area and a just a small pocket of staff are working on one thing that is just going to be specific to that overall um
077just organization well-being work and school balance happiness in their workplace um and then it's a continuous cycle so they'll they'll do some research on it get some feedback on it from staff and to continue to make adjustments um and this is just we just are in the infinite beginning of it it's an 18-month project but again I think it's around um I don't want to forget about uh the staff and the work the staff do um in the support um we want to help support them in the work that they're doing with some challenging situations um but this is one thing to help to to provide some um organizational well-being and just all overall support of our staff in this work um the last area I want to wanted to speak on is um specifically
078around that continued partnership and um we spoke um I think earlier um a previous board meetings around around a partnership with Rogers Behavioral Health and our district around um school-based um intensive outpatient programming uh and then also I just want to introduce uh Keegan ryes is from Rogers Behavioral Health is here um just in support of of the work um that we're doing and and what we've we've really worked on over the last two years um and Keegan is the operation Show's manager um at Rogers here in shoa and has been intrical on this this um project so really this this is almost over a two-year um work in process and started with just conversations uh with the staff individuals at Rogers about U potential um support that they can maybe provide and some barriers
079that we seen and we've just through that feedback I think one area we really appreciate uh the community providers um that we have in shoan about about providing um that intensive outpatient program we have a lot of providers but we also have recognized that there's not enough um and some of our families are needing to look elsewhere outside the community there is a it's a it's a there's a a significant U waiting list in some areas but also barriers if there students or families are having to come out of our shoan area there's Transportation needs um that may not be met um financial needs that may be not met but also from a academic and what we spoke on is that impact for students when they are getting services and maybe Brown Deer or Appleton
080and Green Bay at a half day programming to transition back into school has been a real challenge um they just that travel can't get them back to school um um in a reasonable amount of time so really what what we're looking at with this program is an IOP program which is would be a half day programming um we through our space um we did an assessment of our space available in our in our district at that middle school and high school level and South High School had available space so there was that targeted school so this would be um sixth through 12th grade potentially of students capacity at a time is 8 to 10 students so no more than that um their sessions would be up to three hours of their school day so part
081of their school day maybe an AM or P PM would be getting this intensive outpatient uh services and the second part of the day would be attending school um at wherever their their home school would be students in this program the duration is really individual individualized based on their need but typically you're seeing six to8 weeks and it's a fluid system so it doesn't mean all 8 10 students are starting at one time in the next group it's it's going to be fluid in that manner so really the benefits and I want the difference between this and potential path there is no cost the district on this so there like in path where we would help with um the dialers to help with co-pay that's not part of the agreement with this this is um
082really on onto the families to be able to provide through um their their financing their insurance for this programming so the benefits for this um just want to highlight those benefits potential benefits is accessibility um that local progam programming as I mentioned can reduce transportation and attendance barriers um supportive continuation uh of their their schooling at their home schools while also receiv receiving this unique intensive programming for them um for reintegration for some students that we do have some students that are in full day program hospitalization this can be a u a reintegration potentially going to an ILP and then starting back at classes and part of this program that we we worked with with Rogers is the collaboration part so um there would be for students within this there is weekly progress reporting between
083the provider the family and the school staff so we can make sure from a school stamp point we're supporting the work that they're doing in the classroom setting um we have that um uh release of information to have those open conversations but again that's a piece of partnership that we feel that would be helpful for the students um helpful for their transition into the school day and into this second program so um wanted to provide um some again some background around potential of this we are we're in the kind of near the final steps on this um we are on target for uh implementation of the fall of 25 um and uh again we're just we're happy to be um be partnering with Rogers in this in this one um this opportunity for again for
084a targeted level of students at really high level of students so again we want to provide you with information again our our multi-level systems of support some of those wide ranging new initiatives and then just expans some Our commity Community Partnerships question one one thing that I wanted to say Rachel thank you for taking the time to uh walk me through um some of my concerns that that I had when this was initially when the IOP in schools idea was presented to us in December um after I talked to you I felt much better about that confidentiality would be upheld and I do see it accessibility is key so I'm really happy about this service and one thing too that I want to say is um I'm really really thankful for the path program um
085as an IOP therapist myself part of my job is to uh coordinate after care and you wouldn't believe well maybe you would uh the number of students that say I want to get back with my path count like that is someone at school that I can talk to that I feel good about um you know getting their support so I'm so grateful for that program and for what you all do thank you thank you anyone else just briefly oh go ahead um so the Rogers program is is uh through Insurance um parents parent insurance medical assistance Medicaid possibly yep and you want to mention so we work with all most all insurance is part of the the process will be um our board has to approve new contracts so we'll have to go through Contracting
086with all insurances but Rogers also has a foundation um and quite a few large local donors that um we've talked about for individuals who potentially can't coopay or anything that Foundation would potentially cover um their treatment there and that's something that we' um we really pride ourselves on our foundation um and they've uh gone a long way in providing treatment for those who AFF it that's terrific thank you um thank you um that you followed up on the insurance as far as your Staffing if you have 10 students how many staff members will you have in our buildings So currently the the idea is we'll have um one therapist and One support um member who will work this um it is kind of like a classroom um kind of model so the the program that
087we're choosing is primary Behavioral Health there a lot of skills building learning those basic skills that um they may have not gotten um and so it would be those primary two FTE and then as well as we would be taking from our clinic in choan um a nurse as well as a atrist and other supports will they be coming to our buildings then no they would be seeing them virtual through at South High School yeah oh they would see that so the the therapist and the um support staff would be there in person and then the nurse and the psychiatrist would see them virtually virtually and then I guess two different things is um one you have on there two three-hour sessions and I thought Jason you said it's only a half a day yeah
088I'm sorry so two three hour so they would potentially I think we're going to be starting off in the fall with just one probably an am but it's got the capacity to have a group going in the morning and a group going in the afterno okay so it wouldn't be like three hours in the morning 3 so it is only a half a day and then um the other question I have is um sixth grade to 12 as you know that's quite a range and I and you don't put the sixth graders with the 12th grad correct we do not um that would be one of the potentials for two tracks is that we would um try to prioritize people being around individuals of their same age we have some flexibility with the clinic as
089well um to try to prioritize that right and then also as far as Transportation so if they have a session in the morning if there's a sixth grader at Horseman who takes them to Horseman yeah we would work with the family around that if that's something that um they can provide to them that be great and if not we have resources within our district that can can transport students uh to their building to their school will this be under an IEP I mean as far as liability if we start transferring individual students I guess I would think about it like this right so when they're in the Rogers program that's a part of their day and then when their school day starts they're transferring custody to us right and then the school is responsible for
090the other part of that day so if that student had access to trans normally we would provide them Transportation just like we would if we were picking them up at their home is that fair to say yeah that's yeah so I I would think about it as kind of this line where we're transferring custody from one organization to another and us being the school district then I question as as far as somebody's in an IOP program that we're familiar with as far as how you described it great um and then they would go back to their home school and then they would be mainstream which potentially might not meet with their treatment needs correct yeah that's it's going to be really individualized by by that individual student and what what they are able to um
091what they can handle um for some students I know experience-wise they they can transfer back and they can they can go through their school day um with limited support or more support but it's going to be really individual based on that student but we have to to support them um in either either way but that's where that continuous um ideally want them to integrate back with their peers and within their classrooms I think that's where that Weekly um connection with the provider and the family and the school can help support what that transition is into their school day so their school counselor or social worker knows when they come back into the building absolutely they're in this program absolutely excellent all right thank you for clarifying great thank you and this is supplementing that replacing
092the existing offsite IOP options correct within our community yep exactly well if they're in one IOP they wouldn't be at another I no I just mean it's not that Rogers IOP is transitioning to this South High School space so that if if somebody were uncomfortable with the idea of their being peers and they you know they decided that that was more important than the accessibility or the financial transportation that they would still have the opportunity to choose an offsite sure absolutely that um again it's um we'll work with the family on what expects for them um and then you know as we work with other organizations like Aurora for an example as we transition back in we have we have that relas of information we walk through that how we support that so thank you
093thank you thank you again you knowledge the work we just thank them for all the work all right is there any reservations for taking item C D E and F all together as second reading all right is there a motion to approve on the second readings of policies 6325 procurement federal grants and funds um 8431 preparedness for toxic toxic hazards and 325 use of tobacco and nicotine by professional staff and last 4215 of tobacco nicotine by support staff so move is second yes sir just one question on the um 8431 the preparedness for toxic hazards has the um toxic Hazard preparedness officer and chemical hygiene officer not who they are but have they been identified um yeah so we do have the the toxic Hazard preparedness officer uh which is uh Joe hmer our maintenance
094um facilities director um but and then we will be working with um student instructional services to identify a chemical hygiene officer we're thinking that will be someone from chemistry Department schols okay and I just noticed that in the the leading the The Heading uh introduction they talk about industrial incidents I mean that's what it's sounds like it's a lift from OSHA um hazards that may result from an industrial accident out of the beyond the control of the school officials but that's not necessarily the same as a educational situation so I mean everything else here does specifically talk about cleaning supplies what would go on in a classroom a a laboratory or sence classroom um it doesn't mention Landscaping grounds keeping field the chemicals used there just are we addressing all of those things everything with
095an MSDS in effect yeah that kind of falls under that uh thp officer and then the uh the other one is just specifically for classroom so um so we've had um you know Joe has worked with those departments within the schools like for removal of chemicals and things like that but we haven't officially name had a named uh chemical officer in the school so um but NE is saying is according to federal law we do have to name um this chemical hygiene that would really be maintain the standards um in the classro are specifically and develop the training plan yes okay thank you any others all right the motion has been moved and seconded all in favor say I I motion carries thank you next we have the report of committees PR instructions okay point
096of PR Personal Privilege I would just like to apologize for all this coughing but I'd like you know that I am not contagious my doctor assures me unfortunately you like this for another meeting of two pneumonia is a persistent cough after you're better my apologies all right let's look at our first item which is I would like to move approval of the Middle School field trip to Washington DC second any discussion all in favor say I I motion carries second item was information on 203d item i' like the move adoption of the summer school recommendation second second discussion all in favor St I I motion carries and lastly I would like to move adoption of The Benchmark second discussion all in favor say I I motion carries Comm resources committee Dr H thank you um
097I would recommend approval of items number one appointments number two leave of absence and number four retirements is there a second second any discussion I would like to acknowledge on the retirements the years of service and uh Leah actually totaled it up and what was it Leah it was 945 years of experience of our staff an average of 27 years of service that's awesome we will miss them but thank you so much for all your years of service yes thank you all right all in favor St I motion carries and number three is Just for information that's all thank you thank you Dr H one more one more meeting next we have facilities Recreation and theater committee theer I would like to uh move acceptions of uh item one and two the financial report for
098the theater company and the recreation department second any discussion all in favor say I I motion carries thank you here next we have the finance and budget committee who was that that would be me Dr high back thank you I'm GNA break this up a little bit uh with number one we would recommend approval of the fund 41 capital projects is there a second second any discussion all in favor say I I MO yes and number two I well the committee uh recommends approval of statement of cash flow second any discussion all favor St i i i motion carries and number three uh the committee recommends approval of revenues and expenditures the report is there a second discussion all favor say n motion carries um and number four is the other budget revisions and transfer
099Appropriations we recommend approval second discussion all in favor say that motion carries and in committee um I would like to recommend um combining number five which is the Revis Board of uh Board of Education policy 6610 and include number six the um reading of the change in board policy 6611 one include number seven which is the Revis Board of Education policy 344 include number eight also the revised Board of Education policy 4440 I'll stop there this is just basically changes um in language that uh is consistent with the board policy updates second all right any discussion all in favor say I I motion carries and then and I would also like to um include number nine number 10 number 11 number 12 and number 13 together again the committee approves um and recommends the approval
100of the policy uh 6610 policy 6111 policy 6112 policy 7310 and policy 7450 as the same updates thank you any discussion all in favor said I motion carries and number 14 is the gifts and again a big thank you to all of our donors we had some Anonymous donors um regarding trips to Luxembourg um South High students will be going to Luxembourg this spring break and then next year the North High students and that was donated as far as all their expenses so again thank you as such generous donations to all of our donors that are listed under our gifts so I would recommend approval is there a second all in favor say I I I motion carries thank you Dr thank you all right the next item is on future meeting dates I don't
101think there's any um amendments to that is it should be good all right let's hope so I right is there a motion to adjourn I move second second all favor said I have a good night thank you everyone thank you keep willing this warm weather we go jump right over you just [Music] that one more time I will you can have it one more [Music] everyone vitamin the last days Children's Museum it's our busiest week know so much fun what a place everybody to waiting birthday parties yeah we do that was a great years ago I was invited to that our new operations thought I like knowing I like knowing that there are so many so many and so many um no the ex director she's just such an amazing job like pulling it together
102but that was never her intention developed this director operation and then have [Music] Ace right right exactly or and she did she did some things for me but I really app app that you you weren't just going to be like you know like how I was you're like but I still have questions I really appreciate well maybe I'll take