001FYI, we are live on YouTube. So remember microphones and I'll drop them off. >> Same announcement. >> So when I just can get this stuff sold, I'm like I just want my wife back in >> my mom moved here too. Her place ready. >> So >> good. Thank you. So at first she retired and she's in Florida and she was >> the tags say that but nowhere on paperwork does it say that >> for us by four of us down there one of you >> I had signed about half of them and then back >> wait a minute I think I'm supposed to date these and then I'm like no I'm >> Where does your brother live then? He's in the military. So, right now he's in Destin, but he's getting moved to Louisiana and
002then Kansas and then back to Florida right now period. He says he'll never move back to the snow. Someone was like, I feel like they're missing something. Kelly is not Kelly. Kelly will be at work, so she will not be here. >> Yeah, I got you. Just turn >> if you want to talk and wave at the people. He's up here to discuss stuff. >> No, sounds good. >> He's got three minutes. >> Thank you. You're >> welcome. Okay. No big deal if it does. I was just thought it was something different. >> We did. Um, so for fifth grade, Daisy has like the parrot over the winter like one time for like their five class and it was so much fun. if it's raining and we go and also it'll be a fun little
003different activity. >> Okay. >> But yeah, because it probably would only be like a couple hours. So like the warnings work better after you know like when I mentioned it to K. >> Yeah it was warm enough. >> Oh you work on a hallway. So >> yeah that makes it sense today >> and so the weather was warm enough for me. >> Be nice for the night showers so we can get some grass growing. >> No kidding. I don't want to water my down my garden. >> It's like I put a 100 hose on there for you. >> Put one on the back, too. >> Oh, I should have pulled my stickers off. >> That's all right. >> Yeah. Sorry. >> I don't know why they gave me so many stickers. >> Yeah, we all
004got that many stickers. HS dirty. Uh, we had to sign the bank paperwork for community with the proper signatures for the reorganized board. because our signatures go in the checks that go out. >> You and >> yeah, we don't actually sign them, but a computerized them. All right, it's 5 o'clock. Call the meeting to order. Looking for a motion to approve the agenda. >> I'll make that motion. >> I'll second it. >> All right. Uh, all those in favor? >> I opposed. >> Okay. Treasures report. >> I have one question on it and it's just a basic question on most of them. I know that um Katie had people add what that fund actually was for, but I noticed on the fund 46 it doesn't say what it's for. What is fund 46? >> Um
005fund 46 is basically a capital improvement type fund. >> Okay. >> And I think if I'm on this one, but how much? >> There's 7,000 in there. It's I think that's what's left over. >> Yeah. Um >> No, that's not It shouldn't be just left over on that. >> Yeah. So, let me confirm that with you just want to get 40 46 and 48 mixed up. >> So, I think it's a capital improvement fund. And >> on the first page, it is listed as capital projects fund. >> Yes. >> Right. >> And typically typically that's a fund that the district adds money to. I thought we started with $20 and I put $20 in that. So I don't that's $7. I'm not >> Yeah, >> I guess I'm have to double check that came from
006that is >> Katie. Where are you seeing it on the front page? >> The first page. >> This is the bank. >> Yeah. So if you at the bottom corner >> right here. >> Yep. So fund 46 in the middle column and then look to the left >> there. I don't see a fun 46. >> I see a fund 49 there. Not a 49. >> 49. Oh, okay. Sorry. I'm reading mine upside down. >> I am too. Yeah, there's no 46. >> I wonder if that's supposed to say 49. >> I don't know. >> Okay. >> I can ask you. >> I'm not wearing my glasses. >> Well, and the reason that's important is because that says $7,000, but on the paper I'm folding that says fun 46. It has $26.74. >> Are we Are
007you asking about fun 149? >> No, I'm asking about46. >> 146. That that one I know is an account and I put the $20 in there because we didn't have any money to start it and we haven't had access. Okay. >> The difference is here it says 149. Here it says 146. Let me just >> asking me to add the name. >> I think most of this is >> all right. And then CISA uh had emailed Kevin to just say there's very little money coming in right at this moment and we'll get some final distributions from DPI in June. So as we see not a lot of items coming in on here that would be why. And then the other question I have because it seems misluding is like the playground and the capital um
008like we now have just the start the beginning balance is what we have remaining and I feel like that's like a gray area because it's almost like showing like oh we only started with 76,000 for the playground instead of the 600,000. I get that's all we have remaining. I don't know if you're just saying like that's what we have left remaining as a beginning balance but I feel like there should be like a note okay >> referencing like we did begin something changing I don't know why it got changed because before we used to have it had the 600,000 and that we only have remaining >> 76 whatever now that's changed to show beginning balance is 76,000 and I don't think that's correct >> yeah that's the beginning balance of that time >> yeah this
009is each one of these is for I see what you're But I mean, we've always had it like the last two years. I've always had the 600,000. It's never changed beginning balance to what's left. >> Oh, that's interesting. >> I mean, I guess I'd have to go back and double check. Don't quote me on that. >> So, you want me to just get an explanation on that page? >> I don't I mean, I don't know. It's up to like what you know, Treasurer Katie kind of the rest of the board. I mean, this was just my point of view. I'm not saying it needs to change. I just wanted to bring it up because each one of those misleading to me those it's because those last two pages are the loans compared to the other
010ones just being an account, >> right? >> And so all of these particular sheets are just saying at the beginning of the balance or the beginning of April, this is the beginning balance of that particular account. >> It's just like you're checking their savings account. >> Correct. It's not referring to that as a loan. I'll I'll try to get some more specific information. >> Okay. I mean, just as long as everybody understands. I just don't want it to make, you know, it being confusing for community when they look at this. I mean, I get it does say as of April, but just >> it's I think it just changed from what we how it used to be. >> Okay. >> Just >> I'll work on that. >> All right. Anything else for the report? Otherwise,
011it will be deferred onto our main meeting. Okay. All right. New business. We're going to start with our bus contract discussion. So, did you want to go into >> Sure. Just asked to bring it up um based on our declining enrollment. Um and what I didn't know what a bus contract looked like since I have no reason to know that. So when I got this, I was like, what I was thinking in my brain is that with the number of students that we're losing, does would our bus contract go down if we reduce by one route? So what I was looking for is how is the bus contract based? Is it based on the number of buses, the number of students, how many and like how many kids ride per average? And I totally get
012the additional escalation cause, but that I was confused about too because is it regular fuel or diesel? Is it based on a national average or the price at a specific station? So, I got all kinds of questions. >> Sure. Start >> um like how you how you arrived at this. >> Well, when it came to the the the flat rate that was our beginning of our five-year contract, this pre this current one >> I had done done billing for eight years. seven years and I just knew what I I knew where I was at. I need where I need to be. I guess we always had six routes. Well, you know, if we could predict where the kids are going to live in the district. >> I know. >> So, they could live in the
013four corners and then we're, you know, >> Mileage is huge. So, I mean, we could drop around, but and the kids are going to be on bus 10 15, you know, 10 15 minutes longer each route. And like I said, if we knew where they were going to be at, it's easy decision. Are you using any software to help design those routes or is it just historically how the routes have been driven? >> Well, we basically yearto year based on where the kids live. I mean, we're not >> we're not overlapping. We're making, you know, I keep I like to be as as frugal, you know, >> we've tried the right route. It's very expensive and it was less accurate than our driver the route. >> Drivers know. I mean, especially if they know kids
014not on, they don't go to the stop, you know. So, >> I guess that's my my question. I don't really have a, you know, we've just always had six routes always. >> Okay. If we uh changed like the, you know, kids within a half mile or mile of school um didn't get busing, would that change the routes at all? >> Probably not a lot. You're coming. >> We picked those up on the back >> got to go buy them one way or the other. So, stop picking up. Probably not. >> Okay. I don't know when it switched to six routes from I do remember it being seven routes but I'm ancient so you know it happened around at 10 years it's always been six in my 10 years >> sure yeah I'm talking quite some
015time ago and 10 years ago we had more than 100 more students so that that's where my perspective is >> if we had that many fewer students do we still need six routes if we dropped a route what and I understand the mileage because I work for the tribe and are we drive from Hurdle to Round Lake reservation. So we have Boswa, Gaslin, Round Lake. I mean our kids are on the bus almost two hours some of them. So I get what you're saying and we have to have a waiver. But >> is there >> but you're talking like 10 or 15 minutes potentially as a increased time frame. >> And I know how kids hate that because I know my grandson calls and says, "I don't want to ride the bus. It's going to
016take an hour to get from Lewis to Frederick." and so my husband will go grab him or whatever. But I understand that too. But 10 or 15 minutes if it's a significant savings might be worth it to the district and to the taxpayers. So um how many do you guys have an idea how many on average ride the buses? >> Even a guesstimate is fine. I don't I'm not I'm just looking forward >> or how full the buses like most of them because I know we've had this conversation with some of the staff but like I think maybe one of the buses is you know sometimes we only have a few students on I know the ones that come out by us both of them are pretty full. >> Pretty full. Yeah. >> But >>
017and a lot of that depends on the sports season >> right. I was going to say it depends on the time. Like right now the buses are going to be fuller because they're in between sports. day of the week and time >> the weather. >> I'd say there's probably a heavy buses 35 40 45 maybe. >> Speak up a little bit, please. She's having trouble hearing you. >> I'd say there's probably 4550 on the two that go to the west. You know, one around town, you know, probably 3540 one to the the southwest or southeast. That would be probably the lightest one. maybe 15 20. So I mean it it varies but uh >> it's the capacity is what 60 or 70? >> Well they say 72 but that's really >> we know that's not
018really true. >> Right. Right. >> Okay. >> Would we be able to ask you to to look at what a potential contract change could mean with a reduced route? Um and I know we're we're looking at other cost-saving measures. Um, one of them that we've bounced around before is a 4-day school week as well. So, that would be one whole less day of transporting kids. And if if they're like we said, I mean, if it's we're going to save a $100 compared to thousands of dollar, you know, it would potentially make a difference, but are those two things that you could potentially look at for us? >> And are you willing to I mean, I know you have a contract here through 2028. Are you willing to renegotiate the contract based on number of students?
019>> Well, maybe based on uh >> so number of routes is basically what I number of students number of routes. >> I guess I want to think about mileage >> mileage and routes together. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> I'll put it together. >> Okay. >> I just don't know, you know, right now I don't know anything next year because >> I know we don't either. moved in over the summer. Right now, I know what's going on, but >> well, we don't know for fall how many have opened and rolled out or >> open and rolled in or whatever. We're not picking up kids that have opened and rolled out unless they're living or unless they're meeting of us in our district. Correct. >> Yeah. So basically that was we just wanted to know if you
020would be willing to negotiate um based on the number of students again. And like I said I thought I was going to look at it and it was going to say per route or per stop or so when I got it I'm like oh I don't know anything about this. I did not know it was a flat rate >> as I build route mileage mileage weight time and all it was just a hassle. I just want to want to flate because just easier. >> Okay. >> And it's been I mean it's been great uh you know having those built-in field trips and you know having the DLC when we had that and the built-in sports I think it's been um really accommodating for what we've been utilizing and just looking at what some potential changes
021could be. >> One of the one of the hopes to get KLC back. The grant isn't even >> No, it's not not available for us. >> So, that's probably not gonna happen anytime. >> Yeah. >> On the speaking of future potential plans, would you guys look at what it would take if we do class sharing, bringing kids from the Bry area schools? We were looking at potentially doing some not whole grade sharing but different class sharings, more elective type stuff. Um, if we were to run kids to Webster and run kids from Webster to here, that kind of stuff. I don't Are you guys sure >> or Frederick or, you know, I think it's those two schools primarily right now, but >> we're working on that. That's obviously a further down the line dream, but
022at least if we could get some numbers on what it would cost the score of a midday shuttle thing. >> Yeah. And you guys are already busing web or Frederick kids, correct? Yeah. Okay. >> Y >> do you guys own Do you guys do Webster kids too? No. >> No. >> Okay. >> They are they own their bus. >> Webster. They're within the district. for now. >> But it just seems like with not only the number of students but the number of sports teams and knowing that some games had to be what what is it called? Forfeited or cancelled and that those numbers of trips have gone down too. It's just really worth it for us to look into it. Is our fuel diesel or regular? >> You guys diesel. I got one I do
023have one one gas, but >> Okay. >> So, right now we're paying the additional money per bus because gas is over $5 a gallon. >> The one $1,000 fee for >> the month. Yes. Okay. And I was wondering if that had jumped in and that's why I asked about if it was regular or diesel. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And what is it? Is it based on a national average or is it based on where you get gas? fuel fuel. >> It's based Okay. locally on a local price. Okay. >> Great. >> Thanks. That was very helpful. >> I could base it on California. >> I've been traveling quite a bit and so before it was five here. I paid $5 for regular gas in Chicago 3 weeks ago. >> So I know what you're looking
024at. Trust me. >> 675 in Milwaukee right now in case anyone's wondering. 675 and last weekend it was clo very close to five quick. So >> man, >> is there anything that we could collect informationwise for you that would help out with anything? >> Yeah, they want to know how many students >> I know and exactly. >> Give them that. Mark would appreciate it so he can start figuring out routes. soon as you know >> use a clicker counter to see how many kids would ride on an you don't know how many kids average would ride. I mean I understand that maybe if there's not a sport going on that more kids would ride that day. That's why I was asking just a a basic average if you know okay we've got 30 to 40
025kids on every bus. How many little kids are actually riding the bus because a lot of our high school kids drive. It might be less because gas is really expensive but true. I can have them start keeping track. I get you a number. >> Okay. Do the numbers differ, you think, from what parents start with at the beginning of the year saying, you know, we're going to do busing and then they drop >> by >> they'll drop and then it always, of course, depending on what sports are going on. Sure. They always change around. >> Okay. >> So, >> and I think some parents may start off the year, I mean opposite, too. Some parents may start off the year like I'm gonna bring my kid to school and then halfway through like I'm done
026with this. You ride the bus. Yeah. So, >> okay. >> Great. >> Well, thank you guys for coming. I really appreciate the services you provide us, the safety you give our students. You guys always making sure we got bus drivers to take our kids wherever they're going, especially with the sports stuff. I mean, it's always >> Yeah, I really appreciate it, too. Going from not having a clue to >> Well, and I think we have a good working relation. So, I mean, Mark is always Johnny on the spot with backpacks and homework that gets left on the bus. He's in constant communication with Bobby and I, too. So, >> that's awesome. I write the checks. Mark's the boss. >> You guys have been great to work with, don't we? >> Likewise. It's that good communication
027back and forth makes things go pretty smooth. >> Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Thank you guys. >> Thanks a lot. >> Thank you. >> All right. Have a good night. >> Yep. >> Thanks. >> Thank you. >> Building update from Dan. Does anyone have any >> So I can just Dan has a daughter track. Maybe he's um so the boiler installation has started. >> Great. Oh, sweet. >> So they started uh >> and um so that that's all I know about um I didn't meet with either one of the John. Dan just got them roll. And um the other thing he mentioned is um we have a an opportunity for u I think within a year to purchase potentially a warranty type scenario on the roof. >> Um uh come and inspect. >>
028I thought it was warrantied. >> No, it's one of the older ones. I think they would come and they would just inspect the entire roof to let us know. >> Let me get you more details on that. I was just talking with him. He felt it might be >> something we should maybe look at, but I'll bring it to you. So, I don't Maybe I shouldn't even spoke on it >> to come next week or just going to wait till next month, >> Dan. >> Yeah, >> I can have him put together an email report. >> Yeah, an email would be helpful. >> I I realiz the leak fix down by the elementary. >> It is not yet. It has >> But it hasn't rained. >> Well, it has nothing to do with the rain
029is what he said. Okay. Um it has to do with the boiler. >> Oh. Um, so when he turns the boilers off, there's like condensation that builds up and then it leaks. >> Got it. >> Probably from the water. >> And so hopefully with >> new boiler that'll be fixed. Awesome. And then he'll be able to replace that ceiling tile. But yeah. Okay. >> And those smells haven't come back. >> Nope. >> So I'll have it put something together. >> Yeah. Did anyone else have any other building things that they wanted to make sure Dan got looked at? He had sent out the floor contract because that had come up at last meeting. So, I think everyone saw that in their email. Okay. All right. Um, playground update. Uh, I talked with Stout about the
030water pooling that was out there. Um, they agreed that there is some grading work that should be done. So once school is out, they're going to have um Rettler will have Stout come back out, do some filling, work on that grass seed, putting back in because the area going out to the elementary parking lot was a little bald, I believe, too. >> Yeah. >> Right around the corner. So they'll make sure that the grass is coming in well and they um get some grading fill in in that wet area that's in the grass. But it's all dry. I'm guessing it's dry now. I haven't looked out there today >> without I mean it was such a little bit of rain. >> Okay. So that's what I know on the playground >> and the c that
031won't be that's part of the contingency or that >> could be part of the contingency that they didn't do it. I will get the confirmation obviously from them if you know we still had that uh uh the fix on the north side of the fence where they could dig a swale or we could put some extra drain tile in there there would be a cost for that if we opted to do it. Um, but I think the heavy rain that we got and the possibility of the underground pipe maybe having some frozenness still in it could have just been why we had the pooling along with the dip in the dirt. So, if that part gets fixed, we don't have to worry about what's outside of the fence yet. >> So, plan for the remainder
032of the 76,000. >> Um, no. I think currently what we're asking them to do there should not be a charge. No, I understand. I'm just wondering is there plans for the remainder since you're talking about plan update and we have a remaining balance? >> We have the remaining balance. Um, we can use it to pay back on the loan so we can just put it back in. Um, or if there is additional things that we would like to have done capital improvement wise, that money is then there for that on the playground. if there were some additional pieces of equipment that would go right on the edge. We had talked we didn't put them in the original um plan, but uh wheelchair accessible tic-tac-toe board or that kind of stuff. Music deals. Um a basketball
033hoop could be one. >> Did which one did we pay for the painting? >> The school get the back there. >> We used the playground funds to pay for the painting. >> Yeah. So, that's what we got on the playground. All right. Um, new bill packet information. >> Yeah, we're hoping we were hoping that we could, you know, make it more efficient with Laura not being in the building and that. And actually, we're hoping this could get to you sooner anyway. So, and then if you had questions, you know, you could email them through. And then not only that, but I I mean I guess if you wanted it listed at the public meeting or whatever, just to be transparent, we could certainly do that as well. >> Still putting the packet on for the
034cow being at the public meeting. >> Oh, we were just going to if you had questions, we could answer those in public if you were worried that we weren't being transparent or anything like that. >> Like get it, review it, but then bring those questions to the council, >> have them answered. >> They won't be at the C because we're not even getting this until the Thursday prior to the regular meeting. I see. Just be in the open portion of >> it. If that's something that >> I have a little bit of concern with it not being till Thursday because I feel like and my and this is just on me. I don't usually always look at stuff till Friday and then if I'm needing to question if I'm questioning things and then I'm shooting
035them an email and it's 400 p.m. Friday, well, they're not responding until Monday. >> I know, but then what if I have a follow-up question >> for it? >> So, I do have concerns with and I get, you know, we're trying to work this out. I mean, I'm not saying it's not going to work. I'm just a little bit hesitant. And then plus, we don't know what time Thursday we're getting. It may not be till 400 p.m. or 2 p.m. >> I think the plan is to get it out to you first thing Thursday morning. But I don't I don't see any reason why >> I have to talk to CISA, but I don't see any reason why after I print the checks, I can't just do the packet and send it to you. Sure.
036>> Because at that point, that's it for the month >> anyway. So there's really like if I finish it Wednesday morning for example, there's really no reason for me to hold it till Thursday. >> Okay. >> So I just have to sending the questions to you or are we sending up to or is it a combination of you Lisa and then work because they they are on the spot with >> emailing and that right >> and communicating. >> Well, I mean we'll just think this is a good start. Try >> Yeah, let's just try it and um put some fine tweaks on after. Okay. So, that'll we should get that this Thursday. >> Actually, I'm planning on doing them. I think I can get it to you this week with their permission. Right. I will
037try to get it to you like Wednesday morning. >> Okay, sounds good. Thank you for the heads up. >> All right. Next part is the YOBC request. So, they are requesting rent of a vacant classroom. >> So, when I talked with Rachel, I just jump in. Oh, go ahead. Yeah. >> Um, her and I talked about where >> to locate that classroom and we felt the middle school hallway would probably be the best option because there's the outside access >> right there. They wouldn't have to go through the commons and and wherever if they were holding a meeting or something. >> But are we still having them sign in as visitors if they're coming in for a meeting? come into the offices if they're >> a lot of it is done in the evenings or
038>> Okay. Not during school day. >> Not during school time. >> Okay. >> Oh, so this is just for them to >> just like at office again. >> So she's not going to be here during the school day. >> Pardon me. >> She won't be utilizing the space during the school day. And >> she might be. >> I mean I'm just wondering is that a liability? Are we concerned about having her, you know, cuz she won't be staffed? Like I'm not necessarily saying I'm against it. I'm just concerned about a liability because she'll be utilizing the bathroom. She'll be around the students and again I know she's been staffed so I'm not concerned with that. But like if she witnesses something like where's her responsibility of reporting it and this and that and she's not
039a staff and I you know like how do we go about that? A little bit >> interested being that this was dated April 12th like why we're just talking about it now but I mean that's kind of irrelevant but yeah I mean is there liability? >> Yeah, I'll check check on that. I I don't think there is, but I will confirm just to make sure. >> If she's not staffed, she wouldn't have a FOB. So, how would she get in? We would have to >> Well, she would get a FOB if she was renting a space to rent a space. >> The other thing is if you're concerned about that liability stuff, I feel like we could have her sign some type of confidentiality or >> character type agreement. But I think it's a great
040idea. I do too. >> I think opportunity for the school to be utilized even more relationship open. Yeah. >> When >> is there a is there an avenue that that they could use? I don't know how the elementary is laid out anymore, but is there an avenue that they could use where they could get in by the elementary office? So, it's a little bit more of a public entrance. >> It wouldn't matter at night if they're coming in. >> Yeah. But if they're using it during the day, >> like there's more district office. >> Or is there a fob that we can only get they would only get access to one door cuz they're all >> We've tried that. >> Yeah. They're all >> The reason she was thinking that middle school piece is if
041she does after school activities, they would have confided that hallway not able to roam the >> bathrooms are right there. The entrance and stuff is right there. >> Great start. >> Kind of her idea. >> Seems like a good space to put it in the middle. >> With the gym, is she planning on trying to utilize the gym during the day or that would just be an evening or that's just something she threw in there? not really sure about our obviously it has to be reserved and >> only when the gym is not otherwise reserved. So I and then with her wanting to do like stuff in the evening, has there been any discussion with number of students? How many like how is she going to choose if you have 45 students? Cuz I mean
042again we don't have DLC. So I see a bunch of families potentially is there an age group, you know, trying to get involved with this and how is she going to pick and choose? Is this going to become the new DLC and then is potentially there going to be a need for busing? >> I have zero answers based on asking my questions that I wrote down as I read this. >> Try and get some questions to her. >> I think it could evolve though. I mean, if it evolves, then we revisit, right? >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> Well, it's a revenue source and we need to look at any revenue source that we can at this point. >> She chose to ask us first and chose to come here from >> What is YOBC? >>
043Youth of Bernett County. >> Okay. And it's similar to like it's an AODA program basically >> prevention coalition. So pre preventing >> vaping and drug use and alcohol. >> Okay. >> It's a grant funded program, not a school-based program. >> Would she be interested in coming in the meeting and >> potentially? >> maybe when she knows more, too. >> Yeah. Yeah. I could I could ask her to come and speak with you and maybe address questions if >> Yeah. And it's a big range. So $200 to $500 for the rent. Uh I guess I'd like her to >> Well, I think it has to do with am I getting a closet or am I getting a classroom? >> So if we say >> it sounds good to to look at the middle school then to
044help nail down what that actual dollar amount would be. >> Anything else? Do let how what would be the next step moving forward? Say we're interested in this and see what they come back with. >> Okay. Um >> so does that go to the next file or does that go to the regular meetings by the next file since we >> just have just uh any more additional information? >> I can't remember when were they interested in >> let's say when do they want to start? >> August. >> I think it was school. >> I don't know. >> Yeah. >> August or September. Okay. >> So maybe next meeting ask if she can participate. >> So June and cow. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Policy 442 care of district property. >> Don't already have this. >> Yeah.
045This is >> No, it's never been approved. >> Oh, is that is that what has happened? >> We do not have it. So how do we do not have this when we have these type of words in our handbook? >> Yeah, we we've had some You want to speak a moment? >> Let's show why it's coming up. >> Yeah. So, I I've had a number of students who are destroying property, whether they're in fits of rage or however that lands. Um, >> I have another hole in my one of my walls in the office area. I had one last year also that got repaired. >> Perry, can you speak up? >> Oh, so sorry. Um, >> you can come closer to join us. Um so >> it just it's becoming more of an issue I
046feel like and so that's why I asked um Dr. Shhatler to look at >> at >> how we can build families for the destruction that their students are >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. >> I thought we alreadyed by law enforcement. How would this be documented? Um, for the most part, I have we have called in law enforcement to document. Have >> you talked about this? No. >> We've talked about this for years. This isn't a new thing. Um, >> right. I don't think we have a policy for policy form, >> but we definitely have talked about >> I'm just so confused how we don't already how it's not already a I mean, every time no offense that you guys bring any policy to me that potentially could have been here 10, 15 years, I'm like, why
047isn't this already enacted? back before we did policy 52. >> I know. So that's my concern too. We don't have a 6152 nor do we have a 5540. >> we don't have either of those. >> 6152 >> 61 >> 52 >> student fees fines and >> 5540 >> and what's the other one? >> 5540. >> The schools and government >> our numbers. So I'd have to >> Well, that's what I'm saying. It needs to be amended. So it's >> I mean that's a draft idea. >> I understand that but when they read over this already prior to bringing it to us it would have been nice had they caught hey those aren't even our policies. what number of our policies would be able to go into that or do we need to also bring to
048the board policy that apply to these two because I don't know that we have a students fee fines and charges policy nor do I know that we have a policy the schools and governmental agencies >> um >> law enforcement document this >> um typically depending >> I know I was >> typically depending on what it is I mean if it's ripped book? No, we don't. >> Um, but when it in some of the bigger items, we do have >> Do we do we need to have that kind of explanation written in here as to how we would come about with the charge to go back to the families or is it better to leave this broad to figure out because sometimes it will involve law enforcement documenting it and a contractor compared to a RIP
049book where we just have to find the replacement costs, >> right? Um, yeah. And I don't know that we can say that every time we're going to call in law enforcement on every single thing. >> Uh, I guess I, you know, because it's a draft, we haven't fully discussed that. And I guess that's where I'm looking for input from you. >> Yeah. Well, for one thing, I really think there needs to be some type of clause that says these costs will not exceed the cost of the damage and repair or replacement because we can't be randomly assigning a cost to something we don't know, >> especially if it's something we're not getting repaired. So I think it needs to be extremely consistent and it would need to be listed how that was going to happen
050for the parents. >> For example, if there's a broken Chromebook, who's going to determine the cost of it and is there going to be depreciation costs and is there and there's there's a lot to it, >> right? So a Chromebook is different because we have a Chromebook policy. Okay, it's listed >> and so we'll probably need to cross reference with that policy of the Chromebook policy. So that's completely different and that is spelled out exactly like you were saying. >> Who right now would repair the hole in the wall? Does custodial staff patch the sheetrock? >> Um, no. Well, last year we had to hire Mr. Seaman to come in and he he did that work. >> Okay. that wall. >> But even if we had our own our own staff fix it, there still
051could be a charge created to go with that. I mean, and >> because they're taking time, yeah, an hourly fee, a supplies fee. I mean, you're right. We can't just arbitrarily come up with what those numbers are, but I think it would be fair to have us be allowable to say this took three man hours and $50 worth of supplies. And >> I do, too. I just want it spelled out so that it's not inconsistent with our students and families in our district, >> right? >> Um, and then the other thing is what if it's a result of a disability? How does that fall? state law wise. What What are we going to do and how are we going to explain that to people? Has that been talked about? Has that >> is What would
052be an example of someone who has a disability that would be allowed to destroy school? >> I'm not saying they're allowed. I'm saying if they're unable to control their behavior, yes, that certainly could happen that they could break something. >> But how? >> I know of of families where a child has broken a window. because they've been in a rage in their own home. >> Plenty of TVs. >> Yes. And >> that's like that can easily child in my home at one point that picked up a flat screen TV. Yeah. And was going to whip it. So it if they have a mental health disability >> and >> that's what I'm talking about. I totally get that and I know we have to follow those laws, but how can we protect ourself as the school?
053>> I don't ask for it. Take it back >> and for back. This is what we wanted to do. This is normally what we do in a policy committee meeting. We don't have those anymore. So, this is where we're at on this. This is why we're doing this. >> Yeah. Introductory. >> Um, yeah. We'll we'll take it back. I'll get some of those questions answered. bring it back again and we'll >> and so where we when we pull these policies you said they come from Nola >> so Nola there's another company yeah another company >> maybe they have an updated right >> more updated version of this too >> or is this the most updated that came from them >> I think we modeled this from another district >> from another district >> and that's
054that's where we >> I just see two you know the 2015 so maybe someone else has put some ideas on this >> question is is the board willing to support something that like if If property is destroyed, is a board willing support? >> Well, I mean, we already are because we have support in the handbook. Like, I'm looking at the handbook right now, textbooks, for instance, it says students are responsible for them. If the issue, they'll be fine for loss or damages that are encountered. Like, we already have some of this implement. So, I'm saying like we need to make sure it's cross reference. I know in the policy it states it's the handbook, but what do we already have in the handbook? And then we have those policy or those comments in the handbook.
055Usually, that's referencing a policy. So is there potentially some policy that we do already have in regards to this >> or does this one go further into the building >> because I think there is a policy about musical instruments and I think there is one through library material >> more towards property. >> Yeah, this is aimed more towards property. >> Yeah, I think that's where it started >> that and that's what the title is but when you read it it lists specifically things that we have policies on. So if we cross reference those policies in this though and have just implement a pro policy on the district property like the building structure that kind of stuff, chairs, tables, whatever kids can break and then >> they can break almost anything. >> Oh yeah. And then
056associated with I I think I think one of the things that would be important though is you know having it like a cut and dry system, right? if they're damaging property, it needs to be notified to law enforcement. And then like I'm trying to think of how it works in the court proceedings because you have to have three different estimates to present not obviously we're not going to the court of law with this, but you have to have three different estimates to show the value of that property that was being damaged and then prove that they damaged it to that value or extent. We need to have some type of list out of a quote from a contractor to repair it and then >> I would it like fall more under like an expulsion hearing
057type thing where they would have to come before us? >> That's what I'm wondering. >> Well, the other thing is what if they can't afford it? >> What if the families can't afford it? Are you going to enforce like community service for them to do something to kind of off >> payment plans? I don't know. You know, >> I think there needs to be a consequence for actions regardless of their age or the reasoning of why they did it. There are just consequences in life. >> I don't think anybody's disagreeing with you. They're disagreeing with the how consistent and >> right 100%. We need to stay consistent with it, but also not brush things away when things come up and just, you know, they can't afford it. >> Am I hearing you kind of would
058like everything under one umbrella or we keep property type holes and walls? I don't know how to uh >> it feels like it would be easier to have everything in one place, so there's only one policy to go to. I mean, we don't have a lot of textbooks, so that one might just be what's always been there. And then there's the Chromebook and maybe that >> I think all that can get cross referenced in this. So, can it can't this just be one blanket pulse that covers everything else and then cross reference the tech and the band and the textbooks and the handbook and that kind of stuff? I got I gota be I don't know how the band equipment is >> addressed. But do you I I don't >> Well, because most of most
059of it is rent to own. >> Yeah. We never really >> Most of it's privately either the people own it or they're paying Schmidt music for it and there's an insurance policy on that. My daughter borrowed the contract thing that we >> paid with Miss A or signed to rent it because numerous times I told Miss A like you should probably like charge us like 20 bucks a month to help your >> program like the building. >> Yeah. >> Because it's covered in Tampa. >> Let's All right. Let's let us bring it back. Okay. We'll work on it. try and bring it back and then we'll um see where you want to go from there in terms of you want to separate or keep things together >> and chairs and tables. I mean, it's it's
060really hard cuz >> how many times have we heard a chair break in a meeting, >> right? Well, that's the hard thing. >> Are we going to have to, you know, we're charging for that? They're crappy chairs. >> Though is the main part >> and that's why that's why I wonder if it should like come before the board has like >> I don't know what else to compare it as, but an expulsion hearing, you come before the board and go, "Here's what was broken. This is the student." the student can talk about their actions in it and then we can go from there. >> Holly brought up a really good issue and I think it got missed almost everywhere. Um the kids that are doing this, 90% of them are going to come back to
061having some kind of a disability that this >> kids that don't have those kind of disabilities, you might get one kid that breaks something every so many years, but the kids who have emotional disturb are emotionally disturbed >> are your kids who are going to be doing this stuff. And I and I think this is what happened to us the last time we went down this road about four years ago was that we started getting to the point where when you get to who's going to actually be paying and how much work you're going to put into it to make that happen, it just disappeared. So, I just want to make sure everybody gets that when you're talking about kids p kicking holes in the walls or breaking glass or throwing chairs, it it doesn't
062generally happen with kids that don't have some kind of emotional not necessarily they're not necessarily in special ed, but there's some kind of emotional thing going on when a kid does this. They don't just do it because >> right, but we we we still have to be able to protect our school and our staff. I mean, we have had staff members injured by students that are also in this situation. And so, I I feel for the students that have those disabilities, and there still are consequences. And if they can't be here safely for our staff and our students, then we have to figure out something for the safety of everyone involved. and with we have some huge problems without enough social workers right now and with we've got some huge problems and I think this
063stuff needs to be documented by law enforcement and said we can't pick and choose who we're deciding to you know one kid hits somebody and it's the cops are called another one does and they're not until the parent says call the cops and we need to be consistent with these things and the only way to do it is to consistently document and it's it's not been done I think this is a great stepping point in >> we're going to be taxed next year with the availability of staff and so being able to >> put ourselves with a game plan ahead of those trying times that the students have will be helpful for everyone. You know, if we can remain I don't want to say strict but you know having this is what we're going to
064do in these situations. I think that sounds all great, but like right now I can tell you for an inst for a fact that like >> we're already not reporting like Paulie said with the staff we have and next year we're going to have even less staff probably less students but not knowing how many students we have. I think there I mean everyone's reactive here more than what they should be. There's not a lot of proactive going on in the school with administration. I don't know how you expect admin or whoever the teacher, whoever you expect to be reporting this to take the time to do it next year when they're not doing it this year. So, just consider that as you move forward because it's not happened. And I could go into a long
065detail about two instances with my kids in the last two weeks >> that have not been documented, didn't been recorded. >> Exactly. >> Now, now is greater than ever to make a a plan and follow it and make a cultural change to the school. You know, we're just we're in a great point to just have a new this is what's going to happen as we move forward. And there has to be some type of payment plan if it's an amount of money like I don't want to give the example now I maybe can in close session but when somebody gets a fine and have a week to pay it and it's a substantial amount of money there should have been a payment plan set up long before that it should have been signed before the
066before somebody is told that they are not going to be allowed to do something whether it's a field trip, whether it's walk at graduation, whether it's any of those things. There has to be a plan in place. >> It's not fair to the families. It's not fair to the kids. >> Yeah. That can all be within this policy. >> So, how are these fines and stuff going to be paid in? I I think we need a policy like this. I just think this doesn't even touch the tip of the iceberg. >> Oh, that's why we wanted your feedback. back. Y >> yeah, >> sounds good. >> We'll keep coming back to that one. All right, restructuring ideas. So, I made a visual here of our ideas of things that we've talked about. So, we've gotten
067through the point now that we've talked about contracts and now it's time to talk about all the other things that we can potentially do as we continue to look at how we're going to save money. >> Maybe slam bank Laura or >> I don't know. It's less about it's more just about that we can continue to have these talked about >> so I started off at the top with um our polic or our um mission statement so that we can remind ourselves what we're working towards. The Siren School District is going to produce successful students through collaborative partnerships with families, community members, and staff while being fiscally uh innovative, and students will embrace diversity, feel empowered, and be inspired to become citizens with integrity. So, those are our goals that we're working towards. And I
068just want to keep them in our mind as we're doing stuff. So, over the last, I don't know, year, 18 months, these are some ideas in no particular order that we've talked about. I have a 4-day school week, block scheduling, rotating electives um through years, grade sharing, shared services like we're doing with our um >> IT program and anything else. >> Uh sports co-ops, changes in the buses, um closing of unused classrooms or other um kind of electrical and mechanical things that we can save money. Um I I had one idea come to me like what if we said we couldn't have mini fridges in all of the rooms? Would we save electricity on that aspect? Um sports fees consolidation and um encouragement of dual credit classes. So these were just things that I thought
069full or partial consolidation. >> Yeah. Uh because like a partial consolidation would be like we consolidate the high school, >> keep the elementary, full would be the whole district. So, what I'd like to do is continue to add things to this list, but then we are going to have to be the ones responsible for researching these. You know, we're down to our two administrative staff here. Uh, and I don't think that they're going to have the time to put in to dig into all of these things that we need to find out the information about. So whether we pick one or two to talk about at the next of each meeting as we go um or we just constantly have this available and we're adding to it and after we've researched things if it's not
070going to work we can cross them off um just so that we can make sure we're staying on topic and coming up with a plan. If we're going to go for referendum again in the fall, we need to have the more specifics. >> I agree. >> Of what people want to see, >> maybe. I mean, I think that's great that you started that. I almost feel like we need to seven of us need to go through that list and vote. Is that something that we all feel strongly about or negative? Because maybe there's some things that right away seven of us are like we ain't changing the buses. Let's just cross it off. Like not saying that. I'm just throwing that out there. >> Yeah, absolutely. I think it's like saving time. This is great.
071And it also brings to mind if we're going to rent out any classroom spaces or any office spaces, how will we handle um the cleaning of those spaces? Will will that be in-house or will it be part of their rent or will they be taking care of that themselves? I think the list is good and can keep us focused on Yeah. >> on some of the important things. I agree with you too, Jamie. I think at some point maybe look to have a meeting on or maybe even just I don't know we can can we just do like a >> survey thing like you know get a quick a I don't know is there a way we can vote on it without necessarily having a meet is there some electronic form I guess type thing
072that >> just to make it easy but I don't know if that would make it easier just us all come together at a meeting >> if there's an idea that someone would like to add we can add more to it and we can cross off any at any point in time and if there's a couple on here if I can add any more right Now, we can do it if a couple people are like, "Hey, I really want I'm going to go to DPI's website and I'm going to check the neighboring districts and I'm going to learn everything I possibly can about what block scheduling is." >> I have a call into WIA, but they haven't called me back. So, hopefully by maybe next week I'll have had the conversation about um >> and then
073if >> the waiverss and stuff, >> you would let if you would let me or Lisa know if there's something where it's like, "All right, I've done all the research. Now I can bring it." Yeah, that's the only reason like part of the reason I bring that up is cuz I'd hate for one of us to take three hours doing this research when only like one or two of the board members are in favor of that one item. Like if a few of us are like I'm not in favor of that in favor of it and want to persuade the other. >> Well, I guess that is a way, you know, cuz I also wonder I just feel like we're so busy like we all have jobs. like this being on the school board the
074last two years has become a full-time job and it's really not fair to my students to my job in itself because we're having to research and do so much stuff that I feel like should be coming to us from our administration that's just not like there's been a lot of frustrating things and I'm all for this but it's like going forward for some of us to take the time to like be doing even more than what we've already been doing and especially like with no accommodations no nothing and I get that's where the school is at but it's like We are >> I just don't want it to be a more waste of waste potentially waste. >> But Kevin's right. We can put a Google document together that we would all have access to. >>
075We can Why is that not a walking quorum? >> I don't think we can do that. We can't even share a group email. We can't do a shared group Google doc. >> Good point. >> But we we could discuss at each cow. you know, I'm going to look into this next item and this is the one we're going to talk about specifically at the next meeting. I think it can be under the title of continued ongoing restructuring and if we want to take until June to just come up with additional ideas that you're for or against and then in the next meeting we can divide them up and say you know I'm really passionate about sports so I'm going to do the handle that piece and someone else wants to dig into scheduling whichever however
076you want to go but we are going to have to put in way more time and research on it because that's just where we're at. We these are new areas that the school has not looked at before and we have to come up with the pros and the cons and be well-versed in it to know what's going to be best for the students now and for the future >> and the community is asking for a plan. And >> so that's what I've got on this. Do you guys want to take some time to think about other ideas that you've come across or look into them so that we can build a full list or does anyone feel super passionate that they're like, I'm ready to get going on this particular topic and I will give
077you guys all a full report next time because the other option is is putting together a subcommittee potentially to meet and talk about it, but that's going to be multiple people trying to get together to to talk all the things over And I feel like it's it's worth picture all of us. >> I want to see the sun. I want to see >> I can bring it over there for >> I can't even see it that far. >> I feel like since this is the first time we've seen it that I mean that's why I want a picture of it so I can look at those things and say what what ones of these >> do I personally feel like I want to work on. Like I really feel like we have to change our
078bus contract. >> $52,000 a month is not doable. >> Mhm. it been that six routes for 10 years, we've dropped over a hundred students. And I mean, I I really think we need to work on that. >> Absolutely. >> So, >> and that's where, you know, if we have a if someone has a personal passion, that's where we're going to get the best bang for our buck out of each one of us. No one wants to research things that they are passionate about. >> So, I hope that everyone can find a passion of something. >> I mean, I guess the biggest thing I look at this is like what is it benefiting? Because I feel like we've already talked about block scheduling and we discussed like with Jamie like there was no benefit to going
079to block. I mean I just the same thing with the 4day school. Like is that going to work for P? I feel like I mean some of these stuff we've already hinted off of and we've had conversations with it. >> We've had some conversations but I don't feel like anything's been a definitive yes or no. It's been informative. Um the 4-day work or schedule works really well for a number of districts. not around us, but I mean it is working successfully out in places. Block scheduling is working successfully in places. So, we may just need to >> out spots in your building is working for places. >> Yeah, we I think we really need to look into building our revenue. >> Yeah, >> I think there's some great ideas on that list and I don't
080know, we've been on some of them before. I mean, this school has done block scheduling before. >> So, >> yeah. And there's modified ways to do it though. I mean, it's not doesn't have to be all one or the other. I mean, >> I think that those are things that the staff should propose if they're interested in, >> right? And how that's going to work. >> We don't know how that's going to work. >> You know, what is their opinion? You know, I'd hate to be like all the demand or going to a 4 day and then they like I can't do a 4 days like now we lose that many more to open enrollment. >> Exactly. >> So, >> with child care options here, I don't see 4 days as being efficient either. So,
081I agree. >> It just depends. Yeah. And everyone's individual schedule. Like honestly this year I'm like going think kids are all ready to be done and they still have three more weeks cuz we go through June and we haven't gone through June I feel like in a long or like the first week in June in a long time. So and I know that helps some people for >> some of the things may be really hard and we also have to weigh not only what the community may want but what's really the best data proven for students. Having a year round school has shown that kids do better with that. There's not many kids that would want to do that and there's probably not families that want to do it. But we may have to get
082that information to say, you know, academically this could be and that's going to help win people. >> I would agree because in Asian countries where they all excel in like math and science, they do year round schools, shorter days. >> I can tell you right now having a upcoming sophomore and doing his class pickings and that was crap because you couldn't even find alternate classes for him. Well, and he was going to skip like you can take them from a core class and give them a PE because it overlaps and I mean >> we haven't even looked at a schedule if you were to propose a 4 day a week what that would look like. >> Correct. It would definitely be changing and I think there's a lot to this encouragement of dual credit classes.
083I did talk to Montana that goes out to the students and if they don't bring that home to their families then their families aren't finding out about it and that's enrolling directly into a college class. >> I mean I just struggled last week just trying to pick his classes and it was not good. >> Yeah. So lots we just we want all the ideas. I say we throw all the spaghetti at the wall, see what's going to stick, learn absolutely everything that we possibly can so that we can then answer all those questions that come forward for the public and uh you know know what can happen. >> I mean I know my freshman did it but it was it was horrible. >> Not there's not much options. That's the >> because it was like
084is he gonna miss PE or I mean English for PE? I mean, just the way those core classes were. I mean, we like to keep him in PE until, you know, if he doesn't want to take it his senior year, but I mean, he was you would have to give up one of those core classes to get that PE and then come up with alternate classes. >> We couldn't do that. >> There was no way. We struggled. >> Well, I mean, the there's there's lots of things that could happen around scheduling. I mean, you could we could make a class schedule and just say in ninth grade, these are the classes you take. >> Bam, done. >> 10th grade >> pretty much is what it is. They don't have a ton of options, right? >>
085But >> it's not like you're picking out of a hundred different people if they have like four classes like, oh, do you want >> and they only have certain periods. So, it's >> But if some people are passionate about scheduling, I don't know a lot of about school scheduling. So if there's some research to be done on that to to look at those, you know, uh rotating electives, that might give some more possibility and just say, you know, photography is only offered on even years and um building supply classes offered on odd years, whatever it might be. You know, you'll get it one or the other, but that helps free up, >> right? But the thing is is we have such a short teacher and then we're obviously going into close, so there's even more
086issues coming with that. um you can't make a class when you don't have the teachers to teach it. And that's kind of why we have certain classes that are every semester or every other semester for the teachers or for the students because there's only so many classes that can be offered. Like I get we have ITV and there's some options there. But some of those classes are pretty hard to, you know, try to understand and comprehend when it's like a hands-on course and you're sitting in a room with a computer and the instructors. Well, however we can creatively look at it, someone somewhere is going to have amazing ideas of of how we can move forward. It may not have been great in the past few years, but that only means we can figure out
087some better options for all of those students. And it may not look like what it looked like 10 years ago or 20 years ago or 30 years ago because we have a different set of students that we're now trying to serve. Okay. All right. So, next meeting we'll I'll bring this back and we'll add to it and see where people's passions lie. >> Next cow. Yes. >> I like it, Katie. >> Okay. >> All right. So, that brings us to go into close. Yes. So, I'm looking for Wait, no, I need to read it first. >> No, I won't read it first. >> Read it first and then take the motion. >> Yes. >> Okay. We are going to convene into a close session under Wisconsin state statute 19.851 CEFG to consider employment promotion compensation
088or performance evaluation data of any public employee over which the governmental body has jurisdiction or exercises responsibility considerations of financial, medical, social or personal information and to confer with legal counsel who is rendering oral or written advice. >> I make that motion. >> Okay. >> Second. All right. Uh, Corey, go ahead. Take the roll. >> Ollie, >> yes. >> Corey, yes. Katie, >> yes. >> Jamie, >> yes. >> Mindy, >> yep.