001I uh my ex-wife nursed a lot so it was the youngest one that I ended up having to get up with and >> that's how I still hold on Mike and Mike in the morning and just get up [laughter] >> she because I had to bottle feed the last one that >> okay yeah no Molly does great honestly nobody's sleep a lot so it was a young >> sorry it's just part of going live so we are live now just so you know >> most of the night now so >> that's good >> six hour All's well, all's healthy. >> Yep. >> Great. >> It's a lot to juggle with the four companies, though. >> I suppose it is. And this is probably the easier part when they're non-mobile. And [clears throat] that's what I
002felt like. Yes. I felt like it got more difficult as they started moving around running. >> Is Kelly coming tonight? >> Haven't heard otherwise. >> Okay. Me either. And what happened to our Dan? Yeah. Jamie says that her meeting's just finishing up, so she should be here soon. Don't say car. She's not into me. She's in tomorrow. the this was my first invol with the middle school dance that happened which was great. I was at work. Um but Louis said there were prizes and things are like do we ask parents to help out with any of that stuff? Um, >> are you guys sticking around or traveling? >> No, I think you got family and then I think we did reach out >> to some members or something went back. my daughter is >> we
003lacked a PTO that would help with some of those things where >> like I wish I could have given something for it if I had been asked cuz they obviously very much enjoyed all the raffling of all the prizes. >> Yeah, [laughter] >> he couldn't wait to spend the gift card he won. Carol and I just got back a quick trip down. It was 80 and sunny day and then I came back here and it's like >> Yeah, we're just excited that we're like always about that stuff. Okay. >> Yeah. That there's staff that want to do it. So if they want to put the ask out, >> it probably wouldn't hurt because you don't know unless you ask if people are willing to >> Yeah. >> do anything whether it's >> decorations or monetary
004or food or >> I mean I they don't need chaperones or anything like that. >> Good turnout. I she had just sent a staffing and IV for anybody in helping out with this and I think they had like eight or nine staff members and >> that's great. >> I I mean what was it 30 or 40 kids? >> Okay. >> So the ratio was >> good. So >> Yeah. She found it. >> Well, if they're planning another one, it would be maybe nice to >> ask if anybody else wants to help in some way. >> Yeah. Let her know that she's always trying to do with they have to do whatever. I know she's done quite a few of the fun nights just >> you might want to put your real name down. Sure. >>
005As will I when I do. >> Yeah. No, Lily had a blast. >> He was like, "I don't know. Maybe I don't eat want to go." And then I was like, "Why don't you have some friends after school and then you guys can all go together?" And >> yeah, that was >> love. [laughter] started but we can't vote just being Yeah, >> we have to approve the agenda, >> right? >> We'll give it another minute or two. Hopefully, people are used to >> Jamie will be here. She just had to stop. >> All right, good. Then we'll have a quorum to approve the agenda. She'll be here about Yeah. >> Is this how good they witnesses? Chinese meetings around just back district. Do you need hard copy of this? I know I sent it out
006of conic, but would it be helpful to have it printed? >> Yes, because I forgot and tell that I was going to ask to print it. I don't have a printer at home. So, >> I emailed these you um if you guys could get them back to me before Friday so that I don't have to come in on the Christmas holiday. I appreciate >> Can you even do it tonight? >> You can do it tonight. I brought my stamp just in case. Yep. >> Am I supposed to wait to open this? You know, I just was not trying to trying to not lose them all. It's diplomas and you know they're so tendency. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> [clears throat] >> Oh, that's the wrong one. This I'm not even reading. I'm
007just filling everything up. >> No, that's not it. Which ones do I There this >> You give me paperwork and I'm just >> Just start filling it out. I suppose if Phil bolts could really put them up. >> Okay. >> Go to slide down. There's a tab that's >> see all these tabs. See that little plate in the center right here? >> One of those first two. I can't see agenda minutes. >> Sure. That one. >> Yeah. >> I got you. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. For some reason, I wasn't letting it in. You can go out if it's not letting you. Are you in? >> I am now. >> Okay, great. >> But it wasn't accepting. >> No, they don't do this at all. >> They're not really computers. They're disposable electronic devices.
008>> We just go back to paper and pencils. I mean, not like this for our meeting, but for the children. >> We had to ban the Chromebook in our house. >> And I told them, "You can't even bring it home. We're done." >> No, I found him multiple times in bed with it open asleep or awake at 2 3:00 in the morning. I said, "That's it. We're done. Sorry. I thought you guys would have started." >> Oh, I didn't know. My bad. Sorry, guys. Hold on. >> Piece of the puzzle. My bad. I apologize. Sorry. >> All right. It is 5:09. Like to call this committee of the whole meeting for Monday, December 15, 2025 to order. [snorts] At this time, I'm looking for a motion to approve the agenda. >> I'll make that motion.
009>> I'll second it. >> We have a motion by Corey. Seconded by Katie. All those or any discussion. All those in favor say I. I. Moving on. Special appearances. Now it's has Mike Aldine on here. Is that correct? >> Not Jason. >> It is Mike Alderman. >> Alderman. All right. >> I sit over here corrected. >> All right. Mike with Workers Comp Insurance, Jensen Sunquist, I take it. >> Yes. >> All right. >> Take it away. Uh so again, I'm Mike Alderman with Jensen Sunquist Insurance. Uh I work with the we are the current uh carriers for the workers compensation insurance for the school district. First off, I want to thank the school board, uh Kevin, Laura, and Tiffany. Um, I work directly with them and they work directly with Accident Fund, the current work
010comp provider, and you guys done a great job, uh, working directly with them and making my job easy. Um, couple things. I think in your packet, you've been provided with just my initial cover letter, uh, to the school district and then a copy of the current work policy that I'll be doing shortly. Um, within that, I want just want to point out some of the highlights and then I'll open it up to any questions or concerns anyone has on that. Uh first thing I want to touch on is uh the two governing class codes for the school district, excuse me, where the majority of your payroll is. State of Wisconsin did increase those a little bit. Um they went from a 38 uh on one of the class codes to 41 and $3.65 up to
011$3.88. That's nothing you control. that is set by the state uh when they take a look at other school districts with the same class codes and they adjust the rate accordingly. They do that every year in October. Um annual premium is up when compared to last year. The primary reason for that is your modification factor. Your mod modification factor rate went from a 1.28 to 1.44. So what that does is all school districts have the same thing. It's a three-year look back based on claims frequency and severity of claims. And so it's not the current year but the prior three years 22 23 24 and there were a couple of uh severe claims back in 22 that will drop off after this year. So I am expecting the mod rate to return southwards to a
012healthier uh number for the district. So if you are looking at that policy that is attached in there, you can see where that modification factor is in there. Um and it will show the 1.44 on that. Um so uh the other thing is um so so it is up slightly um when compared to last year, but again there's the mod rate and the increase um from the state of Wisconsin on the class notes. uh your payroll obviously fluctuates a little bit and it's worse off just really the rate for the 100th of payroll that you generate. Good news is um accident fund is still keeping on the 15% dividend that would be applied at the end of the policy term. So once the policy runs its cycle an audit is completing completed verifying your actual
013payroll and then a 15% dividend will be paid back to the district on that dollar amount. Um, at this point I'll open it up to any questions any of you may have. >> I believe we were trying to do a better job at what claims we were putting in that was for this insurance and and are we doing so? >> Yeah, I believe that the work and the main concern I had when this started was a frequency issue on the small claims and we have seen a downward trend in that. So that has been, you know, a welcomed site. And going back to that 22-year, those are severe claims that are causing that spike right now. Okay. >> And looking at what I've seen and based on uh the number of claims in the last
014few years, >> we're not through this year yet, but it looks it looks good. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Are the claims more or is it is it the same ballpark for most of the districts? um >> or are everybody starts at a flat one, meaning you're not charged for your mod rate, okay? Or you're not get So yours is running a little bit hot right now. So it just depends on the actual district >> and the claims that they may have. So okay, >> it is it is just >> per district. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Did we account for the uptick in the budget? You know, But >> usually we do between five and 8% increase on meetings. I will tell you in the past before we had uh Mike's services. It
015was partly tied to our liability carrier insurance and I don't believe we got a dividend back >> on that. So we didn't get a dividend and I think the last couple of years I want to say we were flat >> y >> increase. So right I mean >> you had started out with 1.28. This is the worst, you know, with that year dropping off again. It's those three years. So, I mean, you'd have to do a look back, you know, or even 22 if you wanted to really pencil it out. Yeah, that's correct. So, >> but in terms of increases, we haven't seen substantial increases with Jensen as opposed to our previous liability care and that's why we changed in the first place. I just want to make sure budget wise we were accounting for
016some variable in it. >> Can someone are you done? >> I have um page 26. What's the relevance of that? >> Who you when you're >> any of you? >> There's a page 26 is cancellation request >> policy release. >> I will apologize to the board for that. that got scanned in when I sent the documents for Laura and [clears throat] that should be disregarded. >> I figured as much I just wanted to make sure that was the case cuz it's all public now. >> I forgot to mention that. But yeah, there is no signatures on that document but that was my error. So roughly um what is the percentage or difference from last year to this year? I'm missing it somewhere. >> Um I think the dollar figure is around 4,900. >> Okay. 4,900
017increase. >> Yes. >> Anyone have any other questions for Mike? >> I guess I have a question. I don't know if it's for Mike or for um admin, but what happened? a lot of small claims were being put in and they're not now. What is happening with those small claims or are they not happening? >> Are they being paid some other way? What what's happening? >> They they ultimately didn't result in any payments going out. So, we were like preemptively putting them in like, ooh, maybe this will turn into a claim and then someone was seen at a doctor or whatever and there wasn't actually anything to claim back, but we had already put the claim in. >> It had to be processed either way, >> right? And so we've pulled back on putting those
018in until we're a little more sure the result situation. So we we were just a little unsure on that and we kept asking Mike what's going on here. And then he suggested that we >> don't enter those in until we have a medical situation where they have visited >> sense. Yeah. To be specific was like so I mean it was just automatically getting sent in. before there was any need to actually establish the claim >> because at that time we believed that it had to be with that any um injury needed to be put in within so many hours otherwise it would get denied which we found out later that well that was not the truth >> but that well that's what we the impression of for it be safe and sorry but right >>
019yeah okay >> thank you >> all right analysis will be moved on to the monthly meeting for approval. >> I'll pull that down, take that out, rescan it. All right, >> sounds good. >> Thank you, Mike. >> Moving on. Uh, treasures report and referral. Um, at the end of November, we wereative77,000. Uh, we are, as of this month using short-term borrowing. Um, I did today I did more grant claims. I think The playground loan we have >> 768,000 left and then the referendum we have 88 >> is the playground is that the contingent is that everything >> Yeah, that's more than the contingency. Yep. >> Everything's good. That's however we choose. >> Yep. And they're going to hold that contingency till spring um to assure that the grass comes in next year. >> And how
020much are they holding? >> 15, I believe. >> Oh, so >> 15,000. >> So like six they can look to. >> And the drainage too, Katie. >> They they'll look at that then in the spring. We didn't opt to do that additional drainage piece. We're just going to leave it and watch. So that there's enough >> there would be funds there if we needed to do something. Yep. >> Did we take the paint out of that? Are we at No, >> we take >> eight. >> Yep. >> I believe so. >> Yed on. >> Um and then behind the bank reconciliations, there's um shows you where we're at with the accounts. The one that is negative, there are some purchase orders that I need to close out completely. So that should go away and some
021of that goes to title one. Well, we probably won't be seeing a good size payment again until January or >> January we'll start getting taxpayers. Okay. Any more questions for Laura in regards to this before we send it on to the monthly? All right, we'll go ahead and send it on to the monthly. On to new business. Dan >> [clears throat] >> Hello. >> Um, so after last the last meeting I I called uh the company that's doing the generator and he ordered it right away. So that would have been like the 17th. So it would have been the 18th I think I emailed him and he ordered it right away. So So that's been about >> three weeks or so. >> So They will see it in another three to four weeks hopefully. >>
022Is there any issues installing it with snow out there in winter or anything? >> No, he didn't say anything. I figured this I was going to see if Jed's class could go out there and >> shovel out that corner. >> Mhm. >> Since it's going to be nice. So, >> yeah. And uh I talked to Jed about building the wall and it sounds like they might be able to do that. They basically 2 by sixes and tin is all it is. So two two-sided tin >> and because that company asked if somebody could do something like that. So sounds like so then they would just have to install it. So um other than that is just kind of a a waiting period. So, um, the Boilers, I got a letter or an email on the
02312th, and I'll read it. I just wanted to give you a quick update. We did receive the Boilers last week. We currently do not any have any openings until the week after Thanksgiving, which leaves us a couple weeks before Christmas, which does not give us enough time to put the new boilers in one by one before Christmas. Our game plan right now is to do the boilers after Christmas so we can make sure you guys will not be left without heating. Please let me know if you would like to push this until the spring or if you're okay with doing it after Christmas. So I said, "Yep, get it done as fast as you can." Yep. >> So far, I haven't really had any I don't even want to say it. [laughter] >> We had
024that come in a couple times. So, >> they're functioning properly so far, >> and I'm hoping that they will keep doing that until they get replaced. So, so that's where we're at on the boilers. Um, we've have been having some rotten egg smell in the in the elementary office area down there. And it truly is a rotten egg smell, but it it's not consistently all the time. gets happens whenever it'll happen one day and then maybe it'll happen another day that week or won't happen till the next week. So, I poured water and chemical down all the drains, all the traps I can find. That [clears throat] didn't do anything. I had roar out and cleaned out a couple drains that I knew were issues. That didn't do anything. In fact, I think it made
025it worse, but I'm not sure. Um, there was a cap on the roof that was right next to the air intake and I had take I had taken that off this fall because I was like, well, this is supposed to be open and then we didn't have that smell for a long time and I was like, well, that must been it. But it wasn't because it had come back again. So, I put that cap back on. So right now, Rotorooer said that they have a tool that can somehow measure the smell and track it. So right now we're the it's it came back last week and I was just leaving. So they didn't come out that day and then it came back another day and I called them and they weren't in the area. So,
026we're basically it's a wait and see. I'll call them when it happens and if they're in the area, they'll come by. So, that's kind of where we're at on that. I really have no idea where it's coming from. >> Is it low or is it high middle? Like, what part of the room >> it's if you sometimes it wafts up towards the gym hallway, but you can be just fine and all of a sudden it's like walking into a wall of odor. Well, because there could be a pipe pipes are cracked in there. >> Well, that's my guess. >> Like inside the wall or something. >> I don't even know, but I don't think it's I don't I'm not even that it's a septic tissue because it's not septic. Even Rotorooer said it's rotten eggs
027propane, but we don't have any propane. >> Yeah, there's no propane in this building at all. So Dan, the thing that makes sense to me, and I'm I'm sure it's wrong, >> is that somebody in town has a propane leak on that end of town, and it goes up in a cloud, and it and they're on that end, >> they're on that end somewhere and then it is pulling it in to that air handler and then blowing it right into the office. But otherwise, I have because it doesn't make sense. If it's a septic, it's going to be all the time consistently. You know, it might spike here and there, but it's going to be just a consistent stink all the time. >> It's not going to come and then go away then not show
028up for >> couple days or a week. I mean, for a while there, we had the smell and show for two weeks or more, then all of a sudden, boom, it was there again. So, >> it just doesn't make sense. So, but it's I mean if it is possible that there's a crack in a line somewhere and it's re you know enough gas is building up and it's releasing but where that would be I don't I mean there's lots of pipes in the school. There's lots of [clears throat] >> so I don't I don't know. >> Some days the the smell is stronger than it is other other days too. So >> yeah. Interesting. One day I'll just kind of be it stinks and other days just >> you almost need a mask to go
029down there because it's so horrible. >> Well, you know, they've opened doors and stuff to try to >> get it out. >> And that doesn't resemble I mean, we had a problem in our office and you figured out how >> Yeah, that was a there was a Well, there's basically there's a trap on their air on their air handler. There's a trap there, >> but that trap is hooked to the pipe that goes to the bathroom. Yeah. >> So, every time it it flushed or if there was a backup in that bathroom, >> it would just suck it right into the right into their air and blow it into their office. >> But that was kind of that was consistent now. >> And it was basically just a it's just a trap for for drain
030for the cooling system. >> When it cools, you get condensation. And that's all it was. Yeah. was just a little trap for condensation, but the trap would dry out and then [clears throat] they get sucked right into there. And this one has a trap and I found it and I poured water in it. I poured chemical in it and [clears throat] it but the funny thing is when I go up into the ceiling where the air handler is, I don't smell it up there at all. Well, good hunting is my >> my next option. >> Yeah. >> See if they can figure something out. So, >> um I've been having a lot of toilet leaks that every time you when you flush it'll leak on top of the stem. And at first I thought it
031was just wasn't a big deal because it was just one or two here and there. And I tightened them up. I checked the gasket. The gasket was good. Tightening didn't do anything. Now I've noticed that there's a lot of them that are doing it flush. >> So I don't know if I have a if there's a there's too much pressure in the system is my guess. And I'm not quite sure where To me, that's a village thing, >> but I'm not sure. I have to keep working on that one. >> And it's not a lot. It's just when it flushes it and, you know, leaks a little bit on top of the toilet. >> Just makes me >> It's not an issue unless you have that Northwoods thing they had here and you have 10
032million people going in the bathroom over and over and over again. The floor starts to get wet. Okay. >> It'd be interesting to talk to the township and see if they've changed the pressure on this end of the line. >> Get something different, you know. >> Yeah. >> That might affect >> there might be some sort of regulator that can be put in place to help with that. >> Yeah. >> Anything else for us? >> Yeah. And then uh somebody brought up the common steps though there's a few chips of concrete that came out of them and that's from scraping the snow and ice off of them. >> Mhm. >> I used the skid steer to back and scrape off and pieces that broke off were probably not cured is not the right word. They
033probably were they had hair pockets behind them and they weren't the strongest. So when I scraped, they just popped right off. More likely what happened? >> Like how big of chunks? >> There's four of them [clears throat] >> like this. >> And they're more they're superficial chunks. Yeah. They're not I mean it's not structurally right >> affecting you at all. >> Do we have the chunks? Are they lost in the snow? Okay. >> I mean you're not gluing them back. [laughter] >> Okay. How long ago was that concrete poured in? >> That was in June >> and it was hot when it got poured. >> I mean, it's very noticeable. I don't know if any of you been >> Yeah. I mean, if we had the chunks they had I mean, I would think the
034epoxy stuff could go in there, but I mean, the only other fix would be what to like make a mold and put the epo the stuff that they fill the cracks in with. >> You can take mix some concrete and >> Yeah. stick it. cut back. Otherwise, it'll flake out again. Yeah, >> but I mean, they're not. >> No, it have to be not cement. >> I mean, more than likely, I could go out out there with a hammer right now and tap on the edge and you'd have a few pieces break off, >> right? >> If it's on the corner, it's on the edge. It's hard to, >> you know, it's I knew as soon as winter happened, there was going to be some damage. >> When it snows a lot, I have to
035use the bucket. >> Okay. >> I can only use the brush if it's less than three inches. Otherwise, if it's over that, I have to do everything with with the bucket first >> and then I can come with a brush. >> Well, let's just watch it for throughout the winter continues to happen. >> How long I won't use the bucket at all on the >> on the steps. >> Yeah, >> I'll just have to put more to put more salt on them then, which is >> not good for the cement either, especially in the rod. Yeah. >> Well, given that we had cracks out there, correct >> after they did it, and we've also had the chips, do we have to look at an improper installation? I mean, I, you know, I don't think anyone
036wants to be that way, but I mean, if we paid for it and we're having issues, you know, um, The only only thing we could have we could have if we could if we would have sealed it >> I mean we wouldn't have these issues it probably still the crack I don't think we'll seal no cuz then that cost a lot more money I don't believe that was in the mid >> I I don't know if you could I don't know if you could prove that they did an improper installation. >> Yeah, >> you can make arguments that they should have put more line more um [clears throat] >> cross lines in. You >> could make that argument. But if they did it according to code, if they're in, you know, they're certain length distance
037apart, which I don't know what that is. But >> aren't there like corner treads or anything that could be installed over the lint edge that are traction control or something? Anyway, >> maybe >> they make those tar strips. You could put tar strips on them. That's something that would cover that front corner then. >> Well, we'll just like I said, yeah, see how the rest of winter goes and then we'll figure out what we might need to do. >> They still work as steps for right now. >> Yeah. >> Some could say you get more traction on them. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Uh, anything else for us, Dan? No, I think that's a little >> I just wanted to circle back quick to the generator, the 2x6 wall. Uh, is that um what you found
038out would be acceptable because I know we're I think we were talking about concrete wall or something like that. >> They told me that they did one for a hospital one time and they just put in a a wall a basically a stud wall with tin on it. Okay. because it's not for it's basically a fire >> fire protection is what it is. >> Yeah. >> Your transformer, >> it's not really going to blow per se, but it'll start fire. And it's just basically basically >> a little fire stop. >> Yeah. It's a steel barrier, you know, as long as there's tin on >> I don't even know if you have tin on have to have tin on the >> generator side, but you have, you know, you have to have something like that. Well,
039I just thought, well, we'll just put a a block wall in there, but we can't do that now. >> So, >> okay. >> But he said that that's what they did at a hospital one time and they put a generator. There was a transformer. They put a a wall with a t basically a stud wall with tin on each side. So, >> is this an item that we have to have inspected after it's installed? Is there someone from the state that comes and looks at it? >> Not that I'm aware of. >> Okay. >> But it is code. So if right >> somebody happened to see it they mean like well >> you don't have no protection here >> is it electrical code or >> I mean who whose code would it fall under >>
040a good question >> is there like >> that was giving us a bid >> the guy that came out eBay he's the one who told me right and he's actually sent it to me the actual code >> and I think it is electrical >> okay >> and he's because he said no most people don't know this Yeah. >> Not only that, but it has, you know, and then I don't remember what the distance is if it's 4T. >> Mhm. >> On each side. >> So, it's close. Okay. >> We have enough room, but it's close. Cuz if it would have been those transformers would have been over a little farther, then we couldn't put it in there. >> We're good to go. >> But for my measurements, it looks like it'll fit right in there.
041>> Okay. My only concern with that is that it is open underneath and they're supposed to pour a concrete slab to sit it on top of. >> I don't quite know how they plan on doing that >> in the winter. >> Are they going to pour one? Are they going to bring one that's already >> I think they have to buy a fabricated one, set it in, and adhere it somehow. Either bolt it in or what, but >> Okay. It'll be interesting to see how they do it. >> Is there any issue with having students do it? Like this is labor that the school would have to have done. >> No. No, I don't think so. >> Okay. >> I know. He even asked me if the kids could because the kids are just basically
042building the wall, >> you know, and it's [clears throat] just bas, you know, they they would give them >> somebody would have to put one is what I'm saying. >> Yeah. I mean, he had he'll buy the materials >> and then tell them this is how you have to do it. [clears throat] >> And if they as long as they do it the way he said, then they'll just drill holes and mount it mount it in there. So, >> better than just making a pretend wall in their classroom, they get a a real world. >> I agree with that. I just I have a friend that's a teched teacher that there was an issue one time with kids building something for the school because it was labor. Mhm. >> So, um >> I see >>
043it was >> a problem. >> And I can't remember what they had been asked to build for that class. >> So, I'm not sure I don't >> I mean, I think real problem experience. So, I don't >> Yeah, >> but I can see where you wouldn't want them to be forced to remodel all the bathrooms or >> Yeah. house. >> Webster does the habitat house, >> right? They build and sell the items offer. >> I mean, they have kids doing it, so but it's not like an improvement to the school building, >> right? >> Kid the students don't get paid, but program. >> Yeah. >> Well, no, my point is that the school would have to pay somebody to do it if they weren't. Yeah. >> But yet they're doing it. Like if they sign
044up for shop, is this why are they saying why are we doing these school projects when >> does this fit into a curriculum area which >> they need to add that into their you guys get to do some fixing? [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Real world experience. >> Yeah. I'm not opposed to it. I just don't want the shop program to get in. >> I understand. >> I mean usually questions like that I check with our liability carrier. Sometimes when we do things like that, they can probably give us an answer. >> I could do that. Let's do that and see. >> All right. Anyone have anything else for Dan? >> Thank you for coming, sir. Appreciate it. >> Happy hunting. 2026 delegate. >> So Katie, are you in? >> Well, so this delegate piece, I
045did go to it last year. It is different than the one that happens in January at the schoolboard convention. >> So they are two separate. >> I've chosen the same person to do it. There's one that goes to CISA and there's one that goes to the school board. And I just last year when I went I didn't know what I was going to. Um but it is just a meeting to elect the uh representatives to the CISA board. Um, >> we in your group of people, you elect a person that will be the representative and actually attend the meetings and then they pick like a second, third, fourth, however many people are in the group where your district would then step up and fill that position if something were to happen to that person. Um,
046so I think it it's there's definitely a lot of really great information that are going to be shared at the meetings. Um there's a $100 stipen for those. Uh I believe they are monthly. They can be attended to virtually, I think. Um so it's a really good opportunity. And if if we were to step in and actually be on the board um as a a district, I think we'd get a lot of really great information >> and we've always just selected somebody that serve in that role. That was you before, right? >> Yes. I went last year. >> Does it cost anything for us to to do? Nope, it does not cost us anything. >> When is it? >> I Can I open this? It'll be in January. I don't I haven't gotten a date
047because I don't know if they carry over. >> Yes, >> at Turtle Lake is >> well the the first the election is at Turtle Lake. >> The doom and gloom, but five out of the six of us are up for reelection this year. So, I think that leaves one. That's for sure. Um, so t Yeah, I saw you look at me. Tuesday, January 20th at 700 p.m. So if someone is very interested, I mean, like I said, right, as of right now, we have never been the actual representative onto the group. We have always just sat somewhere in the we could, as a district step in if something were to happen, and it's like seven people or so that are um elected as groups. and you feel it's a beneficial thing to have somebody >>
048Well, it would if if someone was interested in actually being on that group and asking to be the representative of the three or four districts that you're lumped together as as districts. So each district has a representative, each district group has a representative on the board. So if there was something that somebody that was willing to do that, I would say send them. Otherwise, any one of us could go and you're just going to do the votes for whomever else is in your district group. >> So, we've always nominated a delegate. Sometimes they haven't attended >> and I know one year our delegate was Mark your grandfather and he went to the delegate convention and >> they're separate though >> served in both like have served. So there's another part where we can have a
049delegate where we're when we go to the the state convention where the amendments that are put forth for WASBY as opposed to CISA and you're part of that group. So >> the same person you served in both that's typically what we've done in our district had that person serve both. >> Yeah. >> I misspoke. There's four of us on re-election. >> Yeah. >> Um but both of the things would happen before the election. So if if someone >> that's the WBY. >> Yeah. >> Yes. This is the this one is for C. Well, that's the was you're right. This is the Wasby one that I'm holding here. >> But like I said, it made sense for us to have the same person. So >> yeah. So this I'm sorry. So, this whole packet is the
050one that's happening at the schoolboard convention, but we're not sending anyone to the convention this year, but we still have the ability to elect a person that can have their I don't know how the votes happen. I didn't go to even though I was elected the person, I didn't go to the actual uh delegation portion because I attended um presentations instead during that time period. >> And how many meetings are there for the CES? This one is the CISA I believe is a monthly meeting. This is WASBY and this is just the one time right the one time piece >> and that can typically you do not get to see because you're in there all day typically. >> Correct. This one if you went to the convention you'd be in this all day and you
051wouldn't be able to see the presentations. Um so this is again I it's just like a name on a piece of paper but it says that >> to select someone. >> Yeah. So it says that our >> Can we do it annually? Yes. >> And you served the last time? >> Yes. >> Is this something you're looking at serving again? >> It I I it does not matter for this because we won't do anything. Again, if someone is very interested and wants to like delve into state level school board stuff, this is the place for you to be on either one of these groups. So I I can do it again this year, but I none of us are going to the convention. But I can have my name there as the name unless someone
052else would like to. >> But that's separate. We still need to do something that is CISA. >> Yeah. And I'm sorry that one will come later. But it it does happen in the winter when it was cold when I went to that. >> So the January 20 say that is that CISA or that? >> Sorry. It's the WY. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I took when I looked at it. I just So I was thinking for the same person who usually does poll, right? >> Yeah. It doesn't have to. >> No, it doesn't have to, but it just makes sense. >> So I mean, if someone had a burning desire to look at state level policies among school board, this would be it. And the other one is more regional. >> I would be interested
053if nobody else is or I shouldn't even say interested. I would be willing to do the CISA one. >> Um I am not interested in the WASBY one. I am um not a fan of their bias. Mhm. So, okay. >> All right. Well, we'll put that we're going to take nominations and put that to vote at the monthly meeting. >> Okay. >> As to who the delegate will be or delegates. >> Thank you very much. >> Youth coordinator Corey. Uh, so this has been tabled for a little while. Dylan Gky, is >> that how you pronounce it? He reached out. He wants to do the youth coordinator position on a volunteer basis. And so I wanted to bring it back to the board >> before anything happened. I don't even know if we have like
054a description of what needs to be done. >> No. and and he came to me as well and sent me a couple of text messages and I told him he could absolutely do it at a volunteer basis and he doesn't need the school to be involved in any of it. >> Right. So, I just wanted to bring it up cuz I didn't know if there was any action to take. >> No, I told him to go forward and and he could do anything as of right now until a future position potentially gets um figured out. >> Yeah. Cuz technically it doesn't fall under the school. No, the the only thing I could see where the school involvement could potentially be would be the the FIAD teachers coming in and opening up the rooms and saying,
055"Here's the youth stuff." >> Mhm. >> If there is anything that doesn't actually belong to the school that has been tucked in there, though, I think at this point like things like basketball, they've just been utilizing stuff. I know like youth baseball I think almost all that equipment is that maybe or football is at Karsten's that might have been bought as a group though I think they've purchased things personally as well that have gone towards the programs. So I think that would be the only place where the the school would would come in to say here's the stuff that you can have house it or we'll house it in a little corner or whatever it might be. >> That was all I had. >> Yep. Has there been any more discussion with Webster? >> Um,
056school district >> very very on and off on my fault. Um, but there has been conversation. Thought I'd question that since it's on. I >> thought when I talked to Dylan that the Webster ad with or Chaz or somebody had said that it had that was between the superintendents at this point. >> No, no, >> I think it was maybe more like the school boards on >> boards were talking. We were trying to figure out how to mirror a position between or share a position between the two schools, but nothing has really come forward from that other than it's a need, but we don't know how or what it would look like cuz we don't have funding and they don't have funding and >> Yeah. >> and it's not a position we've had before. >>
057Mhm. >> But we do know we have if we had funds for it, we could fund it. Well, and >> because luck funds it under their >> it could go through fund 80 >> and we wouldn't have to take fund 80 money out of our budget to fund it. It would be levied automatically off of the taxpayers and we're talking minimal like5 to$10,000. It would be a very small amount per what the research is of the the areas around us. >> Yes, >> we talked about that. We went through all that before. >> Yeah. and uh >> yeah so >> prepared to do that there was no decision made and then GKI wasn't a part of that at the time he he just said we need one but I'm not interested so >> him volunteering
058now is new >> or new from the last time we we done it but >> and youth basketball information has gone out but it came through not through him for boys at least I think already didn't the coaches kind of do a lot of that >> for at least the basketball But not for the other sports, >> basketball, football. >> They do it for spring volleyball if they have. It just depends on the money and the year. And [clears throat] >> volleyball may be questionable this spring because we're >> still going to do spring league. Okay. But yes, it's basically been on the head coaches to spur on the youth programs, >> but not actually part of their contract in writing. It's been out of the goodness of their hearts, >> or the future of
059their teams, however. >> I can't say one way or another because I've never actually seen the contract. I mean, my understanding is it was like a strong like emphasized. I feel like it would be something that potentially could have been in writing, but I've never actually seen contract to see if they were ever in writing. I don't really understand why it wouldn't be in writing because you can't have a high school program if you're not going to de develop a young a youth program. But >> I agree. And I thought that when Ryan was here one time, he said it was a part of that. >> It's always expected. just >> you can't you can't technically have it part of school because it's governed by school because it's not >> school sanction sport. >> It's
060a community sport. >> Yeah. because that's one of the things like with the basketball they've gone under what is it great Northwestern and a couple of different leagues through the years and it's just basically been left up to the coach's discretion and if the school were to officially sign off on it we'd probably have to pick which one we're going with but >> we'd probably have to pay insurance we'd probably have to Yeah, >> I think it turns into a real money situation and I think the board's talked about that several times through the last year and a half, two years that if youth sports are going to be our a school um funded thing, then we'd have to make sure that we take care of all the other situations. >> Yeah. It's glad to
061hear somebody's interested though. Um, yeah. I don't know. I would suggest maybe Dylan talk to the coaches also and see if they'd be interested in him taking more of a coordinator role on those things, helping them alleviate a little bit and could go from there as well. >> Yeah, I hope he at least Yeah. communicate with the current coaches. >> Yeah. >> About it. Try to work together. All right. Policy 832, weapons on school premises. >> Um, so you had mentioned that I uh bring this back um with other districts and I did solicit other districts. I did get policies on that. I did modify to a degree whatever the needs were that resembled the other districts and then I shared it with Jamie so that it would correspond with the current handbook language and
062I believe you're you're comfortable with the way it is right now. >> Yeah, we didn't find anything that seemed contradictory. >> Oh, look good. All right. After looking over it myself, I'm comfortable with moving it on to the monthly meeting unless anyone else wants to have discussion in regards to it. >> I read it as well. I didn't have any concerns with it. >> Okay. So I'll move that on. We vote at the monthly meeting. Report card. Jamie Campbell. >> So our 2425 DPI state report cards have been publicly released. Um I'm back usually visit Kerman, but she's out. So I am sharing um some highlights. Um, first in the fall, Carrie and I went to the CISA principles meeting and they told us point blank there are report card scoring changes this year. No
063scale adjustment formula being used this year. And think of this year or this report card as a baseline year. We are moving forward this year as a new year with a new report card. And do not compare your scores to last year. We still compare our scores to last year. It's I don't know what else you would do with them, but um so some things from Carrie um our district assessment coordinator. Uh our target groups don't count as our groups are too small and if they desegregate the data, you may be able to identify students. Um because of our high population of economically disadvantaged students, growth is the priority and weighted more while achievement is weighted less. Although I will note that our achievement um weight increased dramatically this year from previous years. So we're
064not exactly sure why. Um couple of things, our graduation rate is higher than the state average and has been increasing over the last three years. So we're very happy about that. Um our achievement score is trending up over the last three years. Um, and that's good because as I mentioned, the weighted priority area for um, achievement went from 5% to 11.3% as a district and even higher for the high school specifically. Um, our district economically disadvantaged reduced a lot from 71.4 to 55.3. We're really not sure how or why. It honestly seems like an error because um it's a big drop. >> Is that based on like the paperwork that families are filling out at the beginning of the year? >> I believe so. So that's what we were >> the free free and reduced
065lunch. >> Yeah. So we're wondering if people haven't been >> filling it out since we already get free and reduced lunch. Is it harder for Tiffany to collect those forms from people? It might be, but it's my understanding that we really still do. >> I think we still need to >> I just think that that was probably I wonder if they change the parameters. >> They do that all the time. They change nuances in this card all the time without telling you. >> Do they give us the definitions for each of those levels? >> No. Is there a way to find a political tool and that number is not a percentage? So when you're looking, it's not like, hey, you guys are scoring at 60%. It was it was never never designed to be a
066percentage. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> There's not a way I go on DPI all the time. >> There's not a way to find the definitions for each. >> It's very ambiguous in terms of and even the areas how they change from year to year, district to district. >> Yeah. >> They're not explained on how that happened. Like >> like this year it shows Shell Lake has higher economically disadvantaged than us. And I just find that to be absolutely not possible. So, >> okay. >> And one of the things that changed too >> when I spent so much time on this looking at it, um >> the weighted aren't the same for each of the schools. >> No, we're waiting on um growth here >> and the school the same size as us is graded on growth
067at a different number. So, I can't figure out how the numbers ever >> I I truly can't figure it out. >> Now that we we are a free lunch district, do our parents still fill out those forms? >> They're supposed to. No, I think I don't think all of them do. I think >> because I think that's where that number >> and honestly that worries me because if we're not getting it filled >> Yeah. >> Right. >> And then we're also going to >> Doesn't Tiffany have this data though? Like doesn't she keep track? >> But some of her that grant information is also those that automatically qualify for food subsidies. So it there's part of that like those kids are already >> No, I understand. But I mean keep track of like oh this
068year I got >> whatever 12 back and first year I got 80 back. Like does she have I mean she should. >> Yeah. >> So I mean isn't that easy something you just go ask her like what percent of families or how many of these forms do you get back? >> And it was >> they could just have said well we're going to use this number instead this year cuz I feel like they do that every year with the report card. Like last year they said the scores were higher than expected or higher than something and so then they used some different formulas. >> I want to say I don't think I ever filled it out cuz most of our forms are online and that's something you get at open house. Another p bunch of
069paperwork that's hit or miss if you need it. >> Yeah. >> And so I think it's just a way to get those filled out. >> If you're at open house, you get it. If you're not at open house, I don't know, maybe it comes home with your kid. >> Yeah. Yeah. And we've been doing that with some of the other forms. So yeah, we can follow up with Tiffany and find out because I am honestly a little worried about that like with getting >> free lunch and stuff, >> right? Well, because when you look at some of the other numbers such as disabled that still stayed relatively the same number that it was the last >> our student groups were pretty much the same across the board except disadvantaged. either the parameters changed or maybe
070there wasn't thing reported correctly because >> yeah not sure about that. >> And last year they also said that that was a baseline report. >> I know they changed it they changed it from last year to this year. They changed it before last year and now they >> Yeah. And then this year when I was reading I didn't see that and I saw that they put things side by side and I don't know why they would have put them side by side if that was the case. >> Yeah, they did. um this whole big scale adjustment formula last year what for whatever reason and I don't really know and I I went to the whole day at CES and I still couldn't really tell you but um some they did some big scale adjustment thing
071to the to the scores last year and so that's why they were saying that last year this year they're saying this is like our all new cut scores or whatever so I don't know I just know that they change it all the time >> it doesn't um well we did we have kind of looked at, you know, the last few years even though they told us not to, but um elementary a couple of things that they are doing um at the PLC meetings they're analyzing forward exam questions especially for ELA if that's kind of where scores have needed to be increased. um looking at overarching themes of the standards such as being able to summarize regardless of the content area, writing and speaking in complete sentences and looking at the differences in CL CKLA from
072the second edition what we have to the third edition which came out over the summer. Talked about um funological awareness and phonics and what programs we are using to supplement what isn't being taught in CKLA and that the teachers are feeling more and more proficient getting through more of the CKLA units. um the middle high school. Some of the things that we've been doing are 6th through 12th grade and um elementary does use uh the tool also have been focusing on data from forward exams because supposedly a lot of the data for these score and achievement things is from forward exams especially at the elementary and um middle school levels. Um and then they don't do as much at high school and ACT. Um, so CISA does a big spreadsheet where we can download all
073of our test data and put it in there and then we can access every standard at each grade level on the forward exam and see how our kids do. So our PLC teams have been working to analyze that and then compare it to our curriculum in our PLC process. Um this year we did uh implement with our core teachers um that if we um need to pause, retest and reassess unit assessments as a whole group if 80% of our students are not scoring 70% or higher. So we're doing a lot of reteing and retesting on units before moving on. Um we've implemented middle school advisory this year interventions for both ELA and math which are based on fastbridge scores which are done three times a year. Um and then we're continuing our high school advisory
074which is also given three times per year. Um aiming to increase preac and ACT scores and then giving us kind of an overall baseline of how well our students are doing academically. So we do we look at the data. We do compare the data even if they tell us not to. We try to look at trends things like that. But we do look a lot at our actual forward exams [clears throat] and then ACTs and then preacs and then our local um fastbridge and certing too on a regular basis. I I've talked to a couple other um different schools and they're the schoolboard people and they're looking primarily at the growth scores. >> See, that's that's been told to us different years, too. When this first started, growth was the main factor you're supposed to
075focus on because that really tells you how your kids are doing. >> And then other years, they change it from growth to like um attendance, um rates, >> achievement. I I agree with you, but I'm not sure if we're getting all the right information on that. And >> well, that and like >> because our growth score is the one that drop. >> So yes, but our achievement increase. So as your achievement increases, you would expect your growth to drop because there's less um discrepancies. That makes sense, I guess. So our achievement over the last three years has gone up quite dramatically, actually. So, that's something we want to see, which I'm glad that our score didn't drop very much because we went overall from 5% achievement to 11.3% achievement this year in our total overall
076district score. And at the high school, we went from 5% to 15% achievement. So, that's a pretty substantial jump >> looking from. So, our growth went down. Our growth used to be 45% of our overall score and this like for high school this year it was 34.8%. So that's a considerable change. And then the other thing like John was saying we were looking at all the area schools trying to compare things. Well if you look at every one of the area schools their pie that shows the priority area weights between achievement growth target group and on track to graduation are all different. And so some of them have the achievement is being scored at 15% for the district, 22.5%, 19.7, 11.5, 11.3, and 11.1. So even just in the six schools around us, every school
077has a different weighted area and in the whole total score. So I don't know, it's like comparing apples to oranges at that point. Um, the other thing is even in your target group outcomes, they're not looking at the same things. Some of them have attendance and some of them have graduation, right? Like for different districts and so I don't really know why they're doing it that way, but it >> but you said our target groups are too small anyway. >> Yeah, that's Yeah, that's what Carrie had on there. So I'm not sure if that's maybe but like we still have target group outcomes. So, >> so, so if these numbers are going to or this the formulas are going to continue to eb and flow. >> Yeah. >> Is are we okay going we have
078students graduating at a a really good percentage and that's I mean I don't want to say that's the only overall marker but I mean is that something that we're able to at least >> base a little bit of our own personal achievement off of? like we we are still getting students. >> We're very very excited about that piece because I mean that's pretty huge. It's kind of like our ultimate goal I think is getting kids graduated successfully. >> Graduation rate. >> Yeah. I think that's huge and that's been our number one goal since we got into these roles was increasing it because it was worse even before and then coming out of co you know it was [clears throat] really rough for a while. So, we're happy to see that and and we definitely look
079at like yeartoyear where our achievement is and like is ELA higher or lower than math and you know what can we do to focus in on those pieces and how can we improve. I mean we still look at it as you know valuable data. >> Absolutely. I mean there's still information that has to come with it because you could just go through the courses and get the graduation. Um, so making sure that you're actually getting to the target mark that you need to in each of those subject areas. >> Yeah. >> Um, but overall I I feel like we should still feel pretty good. >> Yeah. >> Regardless of how these numbers are, you don't know what the formulas are and whatnot that we we know we have students that are graduating and >> Yeah,
080absolutely. And you know, I think we're doing pretty good. Yes. Could we do better? Probably. But we also have um you know some of the highest rates of students with disabilities. We are one of the highest economically disadvantaged. We are by far the highest um you know school in the area that has minority students. So all of those factors play into um you know the correlation between higher scores and success. And so we're I think everything that we're doing is helping our kids in this district because they are graduating at a higher rate. >> I have a couple of questions. Well, first of all, a concern in that that state and the new reading program. >> Act 20. >> Yes. Act 20. And it says so many percentage of your students or whatever every student
081who's under whatever level >> we have to have a plan and a program for. >> That third grade reading >> was at 29.2. two. That means a whole lot of our third graders are going to have to be on that reading plan. And that is going to need to take a huge amount of time and effort to to figure out how that's going to work for us. And [clears throat] I don't know who is looking at that or how hard they're looking at that right now. >> Becky Wickland is working on that. um she's kind of been spearheading the act 20 pieces with Carrie down in the elementary. Um they went through last year and because we had to do pieces of it last year, so they went through and started writing in the spring
082some of the personal reading plans for the the kiddos that needed it. Um this year I'm wondering where you got that. >> Yeah, the 20.4%. It says third grade reading. >> She's a different page. 2425. I'm on page seven of 11. >> Oh, okay. Yeah, that's not what we have. >> Um, no, this is right off of the DPI is where I took it. >> 49. >> Yeah, cuz I I have it here. Third grade English language and it's 49.3 >> at the circle things. Yeah, I'm looking at the bottom of this. >> That's the same thing on track to graduation. So, that's explaining it. >> That's so weird. You you've got it on the bottom of your page where it says money. That's where I'm reading it. >> But why would that be different
083from the on track to graduation third grade and that's what I'm asking and if that is going to be if that's not question is based on that number. >> Yeah, >> that's a huge problem. >> I don't know. I don't know if it is or not. >> Which one of those two numbers? That's the question I have. >> And are those percentages >> this listed? It has a percentage. >> Okay. Because the 49.3 is not a percentage. So if it's if it's scored in a percentage, does that 49.3 go down to that 29 number compared to the score? >> Well, that's my assumption is this is a percentage that is not. >> Got it. >> So, and I I think percentages are easier to understand than a random number, >> which is why it it
084jumped out at me. And then the other thing, this is just a question, industrybased credentials. It has our district has 0% the state is 5.5 but yet last year 2324 we had 3.6. How did we go from 3.6 to zero under industry recognized credentials. What were we doing differently? I think that might have been the >> And it said that five students last year earned the industry recognized credential from Renee. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I would I would think that Heather was doing it through >> but is is it the is the number of is it students that have earned it? it. Okay, it said >> 3.6% and then it had it broke down to five students >> and then this year it says 0%. >> Mhm. And then it says no students earned
085it. And then under work-based learning, it says two students participated in work-based learning. >> And that's >> which honestly I think we should be doing a lot more of than that. But >> but that's that's the hospitality and the welding program are the two that we currently have, right? That they can earn those haven't changed. So I'm assuming that has to be the Microsoft >> the finance academy >> financial academy piece from Renee. >> Okay. >> So last year nobody earned the hospitality and welding even though we still offer that. Is that what you're saying? >> I don't think that counts for this. >> Okay. There's specific certifications they're looking for. >> Yeah. I think this is just that one that Renee has the financial accounting. It would be my assumption. Don't quote me on
086that. I'm not really sure. But if I know the I would say that it had to have been that. I mean, like I said, they don't really tell you what any of these are. Like, and I don't even know if they would like work-based learning. We have a lot of kids in in workbased learning. So, I don't I don't really know where they got this 1.7 and two students because we have a lot more students that work based learning. >> Unless their employer reported >> because that could be a possibility that the employee employer has to report that they're [clears throat] doing something. It's possible. >> Maybe we need to look into that because we have we have a whole pile of kids that are doing that's why I'm looking at it doesn't make sense
087to me. >> But is that um Heather's CTE program? That could be too. >> She still had way more than two kids. She had a half a dozen >> that are earning the certificate in the end >> because we have the ability to earn certificates while in school and the ability of the students that are leaving school at the end of the day to go to their work >> places. And so I maybe that's like the youth apprentice specific one or something. It could be that >> we did have a youth apprentice last year. This last year two years ago >> this would have been 2425. So it could be the difference between youth apprentice and work study. There's a difference. So maybe this one is only the youth apprentice. I don't >> it is
088nice that our dual enrollment was 43.8% in the states was only 26.6. 53 students completed at least one dual enrollment course. So those are the college courses. >> So we're above >> double the state >> and we only offer two programs where other larger may offer >> courses. Those are just courses. >> Yeah. I I guess it would be really nice to see more of our kids um getting industry recognized credentials, whether that's um independent learning with somebody that is supervising that if that counts. I have brought up multiple times um to many different people having a class for high school students to get their CDA to work in child care in licensed centers. Um >> if and they can take that >> independently. But what we would it would be nice if the school
089was getting credit for it. Oh, >> this is the child development one >> that wouldn't require one of our teachers to become certified through one of the colleges. >> No, it wouldn't. No, it would just online. >> I don't know if you would get credit for that, but I feel like this is your teachers are qualified through university. >> So, in order to Jed and Heather >> Well, Heather is qualified to teach child development classes. >> Yeah. But you would fall under that >> program. So, I don't know. put that in her hospitality program. it I mean there is it is a huge shortage area in the entire state of Wisconsin and if we could get kids interested in it and we could help out um get you and get some people in there doing
090their work some work study stuff it would be so beneficial and there's two head starts in the district besides um that could potentially benefit from it not as much as a child care center would but it would be really nice if we could figure out some of those like they have the welding certificate if we could have CDA certificate and the CNA. I mean all of those things look very positive in the community and public's eye that we are training our kids and not just doing collegebased >> we have a lot more that go I think into like healthc care options that way like doing the CNA course and then working >> which is awesome >> some of the local you know um >> bits of work we have kids that are working leaving school
091half days and working at the daycare that you just mentioned that's awesome we already have but we don't have the which would be really cool if we could get those certifications, but we do have kids that are leaving in doing that work at this time. So, >> yeah, those those are my only questions on it right now. Like I I' I've looked at five different districts and um I I find that kind of data very interesting. off. >> I'm weird like that, but um and trying to figure out how we can improve those scores because they are being looked at. We do have people in public saying, "Look at look at Fredericks. Look at compared to ours, it's huge. The differences are huge." And maybe if there if we could really get on DPI about
092making them more specific in what they're looking at >> so they know that you know our graduation rate is instead of this number when somebody says oh this is a >> and oh that's a 78. >> I mean the the discrepancy in what looks like student learning >> without all the other factors added in is huge. According to the lady from Shell Lake who had really high scores, she said that the achievement increasing over a few years as a lagging indicator of success to come. So sounded >> and that was one of the ones I didn't look at was shell because >> and did I did I not read over like of the star rating? I mean if if thinking general public that's probably some of the area they're going to hone into of the
093400 and some districts it was like 50 that got one way or the other like every we are right in there with everyone in the state whether that's good or bad. There were very few districts at either end of the spectrum. >> Yeah. >> The number like Paul said though is what sucks because when you start really digging into it, people are taking that number and they're trying to say apples to apples >> and they're not. and when you spend some time looking at it and people don't have the time to look at it. So, we really have to make sure that we're educating people in this meeting where we have lots of people watching. Um, make sure that we are educating at other meetings so that we can make sure people understand. And everyone
094can always go to the DPI website and actually read what's on there. Oh, yeah. >> And take your time. And when you start doing that, you start realizing that you're not really comparing apples to apples and that, you know, you have to take your time and your effort to do that. Um, but when you do, you're start looking at and going, "Hey, we where we're sitting with the kids that we have here and the different situations, we're doing okay. Our graduation rate keeps going up. Our kids our attendance keeps getting better." You know, it's easy to look at the number and be frustrated. When you start looking at some of the other things that the positives that are mixed into this, um, and again, taking the time to actually look at it, it's real important.
095And that that third grade reading score, I bring that up knowing that we could have had a very low achieving class, which is also cyclic. And you can have I mean, we could have a third grade class next year that reads like superstars. We don't know what it is. So, you can't compare 29% this year to 53 some random year because >> the makeup of the class. Yeah. >> So, I I get that, but it's still it's >> it's hard to look at them and to have people bring them up >> when >> there it's it's not a very clear picture at all. It's pretty murky. It really is. >> Um, one things I'll say is I mean the graduation rates going up are great. The attendance going up are great. mathematics holding out strong
096is great to see. Um I think the board has expressed issues with low numbers in regards to the ELA um in previous years and um in fact we were wondering if the curriculum we bought into um might not have actually been working. Um, and I don't know if it's because of act 20 coming about and having to do these reading interventions and basically knuckling down so to speak and having to really address the issue potentially helping out. >> It hasn't even taken effect yet. >> But we have been doing the um plans for all the kids. >> I know for sure third grade. I can't speak for any other grade, but I can guarantee you that they're doing third grade. But it's not like full information. They work within their PLC's, >> right? And they
097actually every kid and there's dates, certain dates after you do the testing that those things have to be sent out. And there's several things, like I said, I can't speak to the elementary, but I can tell you for sure when got home at midnight that night because they had to be out that I know for sure that >> Yeah. >> And that class was who she had last year, so she had a pile of them that she had to do. I guess I'm just saying I would love to see a year where we have some good reading improvement >> instead of [snorts] it's going to work. It's going to be fine. We're going to make it. It's, you know, it's just taking a while to learn this >> cuz we've heard that for too many
098years in a row. >> Or can we hear directly from the teachers instead of basing it off of these state tests and these numbers? Can we get a statement from our teachers saying, "We've taught this now for a couple of years. I really do think that it's working. I'm seeing improvements in my kids or I'm not." I mean, that's where it counts is if they're the ones that are actually making it work and seeing it and not what these standardized tests are spitting out, >> right? And and just remember, all research says new curriculum is looking at 3 to 5 years for improvement. So we are probably at what like we three on EKLA. So we in the next two years should either start to see gains or then we would reevaluate. You know if
099we reach the five year mark and we're not seeing gains even you know at year four we're not starting to see gains then yes maybe that's something that we would look at. But if you abandon in the middle of that process then you're never going to really truly know if it was effective or not. And like with the new act 20 stuff, there's only a few um ELA curriculums that are allowed to be used. CLA is one of the approved programs by the state or whatever. So, >> I mean, I have to feel like >> it is good and it's it's what's used in most other districts around as well and has been I think for longer than here. And from my understanding >> Yeah. My understanding is that teachers in other districts that have
100been using it for a long time speak very highly of it. So, >> right, and I'm not saying that it's a bad curriculum. I'm not saying >> but the problem is it doesn't matter how fancy of a tool you get. If you don't know how to use it the right way or don't know how to implement it the right way, >> it doesn't matter. So, you know, if the teachers are having issues or if they're not fully getting being able to get on board with certain things cuz we have ran into those issues of, you know, I've taught this way for so many years and I'm just going to do the way that I've always done it. Um, >> it doesn't matter how good the program is if staff isn't on board. >> Yep. And
101I can tell you that we've seen it at the middle high school and and we're seeing a lot of change now. So, >> okay. >> Promising. >> Well, and every time you start a new curriculum, and I feel I' I know I've heard it um here where, you know, we've started this new math curriculum, so the first year the scores are lower and they're going to get better. My concern with that is are kids losing learning time by going by jumping hook line and sinker into a program without slowly integrating that with some of their own tried and true. So I know what you're saying about changing, but I also know that it's pretty hard. You know, school starts, you're starting a new curriculum, you don't know that curriculum yet. You had some real success
102with something and you're not allowed to do that anymore. I mean, I it seems like there has to be some give and take and a little transitional time to be able to do that because then, you know, when we went to that last new math one, however many years ago, we really, really focused on math and our math scores went up and our English scores went down. Absolutely. >> And now we got a new English curriculum and our math scores are going down >> compared. So, it's a game. It's a balancing act. And I don't I worry about the kids falling into that. That's hard. So, it's got to be some we know this works. We know, you know, somebody who's been teaching kindergarten and saying, "My kids's math over this year was amazing and
103now we have this new curriculum and they're not or in third grade or whatever grade that would occur in that that there's got to be some >> You don't just learn a new curriculum. I mean, it takes a long time to practice a new curriculum. You don't just read about it and start >> implementing because it's different. I mean, I think Carrie's done a good job of professional development along with those curriculum to have the teachers teach us how to use a curriculum. >> I mean, that's one of the things we we purchased and been heavy with. And >> is is there anything that can go with the parents to help with at home? I mean, >> well, that was the other thing. >> My kid doesn't bring anything home for their math or CK
104CKLA to do at home. Several years ago, we we had our scores went up significantly and we exceeded expectations. There was a manipulation on the report card, but I asked our several of our elementary teachers, what was the difference? Why why do you feel we did? She said the parental involvement was much greater that year >> because right now it feels like a lot of it is well you could play these math games at home and yeah you can read at home but it's not like a specific like we're doing >> this section right now on whatever it is here are the specific things that you can do to follow along with some of these curriculums at home. And I don't I don't know if they have I I know there's push back for doing
105homework. >> Um but maybe there's a balance somewhere of uh allowing the parents to know what's going on so that they can incorporate it in everyday life of whatever they're doing too. >> Something to check into. >> Anyway, thank you for bringing that. It's it's like I said, it's interesting and at least to me, I know it's not interesting. Anyone have anything else for Jamie in regards to the report card? >> Okay. At this time, I'm looking for a motion for us to convene the closed session under Wisconsin state statute 19.851 851 CFG to consider employment promotion, compensation or performance evaluation data of any public employee over which the governmental body is jurisdiction or exercise responsibility considerations of financial, medical, social or personal information and to confer with legal counsel who is rendering oral or
106written advice. >> I'll make that motion. >> Second it. We have a motion by Corey, seconded by Katie. Um the uh items to be discussed are student transportation special exceptions which could potentially fall under uh section F and uh proposals and acceptance procedures for positions which would also fall under F and possibly [snorts] B or C as well. Any discussion before we take the vote? Corey, take the vote, please. Holly, >> yes. >> Corey, yes. Katie, >> yes. >> Tom, >> yes. >> Jamie, >> yes. >> Amy, >> yes. >> One second, please.