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Regular School Board Meeting

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YouTube / Siren School District Board Room, Siren, WI
Date
2025-04-29
Location
Burnett County, WI
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Extent
14,430 words · about 81 min
Collected
2026-06-11

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001I'll save the mic is on and just know that it picks up all kinds of conversation. Did you sign in? Yeah. Thank you very much. [Music] Nice. She's ready for it. [Music] Um I mean [Music] yes [Music] instruction That's it for All right, it is 7:30, so we're going to go ahead and call the April monthly meeting of the Siren School Board to order. You all please rise for the pledge of allegiance. Pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. So, um I'm looking for a motion to approve the agenda except for I would like to switch around F and G and closed because I think it makes more sense that

002way. F and G. You want to switch? Just switch them. Yes. G is the F. F is the G. Did you get that? No. Right here. So, I'm going to switch these. Um, I'll make a motion to accept switching F and G and approving the agenda. I'll second that. Okay, we have a motion by Kelly, seconded by Jamie. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? All right, moving on. All right, board vacancy appointment. We have looks like two that have put their letters of intent in. Um, so I'm going to move these out to the rest of the board. There's a list of questions that each of the candidates is going to be asked. This way you all can take notes on it and whatnot if we want to. Then I'll get out

003one for each candidate. So starting at the top, we've got Corey Bower. to stand. Yes. If you'd like to come up here so everyone can see it, please, that'd be great. Thank you for your interest in this position, Corey. Um, one more moment or should we move on to double checking? So, first question, uh, how long have you lived in the Siren School District? Since fourth grade or eight years old. And are any members of your immediate family employed by the Siren School District? Nope. Oh, why do you wish to be a school board member? Uh well, my son is coming up of age to attend school. He's not quite there yet. And I have been in the community my whole life and want to be a part of the good in the community. So

004hopefully making a lasting impact. That's about all I got. Okay. Um, uh, summarize your involvement in public service activities. Uh, I was a ref high school and out of high school. I assisted in some coaching right out of high school. Uh, ran the weight room for a while and then I employ some students of Siren currently. Um, and then about two years ago, I was involved with the teched program, helping them build sheds and teaching construction. What did you wreck? Uh, basketball. And that was what you coached as well? Yep. Thank you. Oh, I my father is assistant football coach for Siren. I guess if that counts as people employed for school and think about that. Okay. All right. Um what issues do you believe are a priority for the board of education at this

005time? Keeping the children first, keeping balanced budget and getting the best for the students, balanced budget students first. Okay. Uh, what do you see as the strengths within the Siren School District? Teachers who care, teachers who make students a priority, parents who are involved, and a tight-knit community. Oh, there you go. Last question. What would you like to see changed within the Siren School District? That's hard not being involved in the school currently. I don't know. My brothers all graduated few years back, so I haven't been super involved of the school, so I don't know many issues, but taking an open and honest stance and seeing what's going on before you implement change. Thank you very much. Uh Jesse Smith, can you come up here, please? college. Okay. I was too. Try to get used

006to that. I know. I know you are. All right. Oh, no. I'm writing probably. All right. Jesse, thank you for expressing your interest in fulfilling or filling this position. Okay, thanks for having me. Um, how long have you lived in the Siren School District? Approximately 8 months. Are any members of your immediate family employed by the Siren School District? That they are not. No. Why do you wish to be a school board member? Well, the big thing, and I'm going to reiterate a lot of what Corey said, um the kids right now, if we look at the DPI report card for the school districts of Siren, you guys are at or the same as 9.7% of the schools in Wisconsin. That is horrific. um all the surrounding schools are doing a little bit better and

007one of my goals obviously would be to increase that and make us competitive with the other schools around. Uh could you summarize your involvement in public service activities? Um in the past I was previously on the St. Craig St. Cray Valley Homebuilders um board of directors. I was a past president of the St. Croy Valley Homebuilders. Um as far as some of the uh things in the community in in the Oyola district is is where I'm from. My kids graduated. I believe I put that in the on the letter. But um I had coached youth football uh for many years. Worked with the worked with the high school program there. Scott Newton who's now the athletic director. Um did that for about four or five years. I was also a coach for my daughter and

008youth baseball as well as or youth softball as well as youth um when my son was was growing up and and going through the school system there. Um what issues do you believe are priority for the board of education at this time? Again, some of the stuff same stuff that um Corey had mentioned. Um transparency is a big one with any board. Um obviously with with the community um the students obviously it's it's a product of this school. Um so we need to be putting out the best product possible. And then obviously the staff, you know, having the the tools and and means for the staff to be able to do their job and to be able to support the staff as well. Okay. What do you see as the strengths within the Siren School

009District? Um, a couple of the big ones just from being around some of the events and and attending the Hall Wild here a couple weeks ago. Um, and Corey said this again. And I hate to feel like I'm copying him, but the staff that I see and interact with the students and the kids, they seem to care. And I really like the small class sizes here compared to some of the other school districts school districts around. Couple of the couple of the big things that have stuck out to me. And lastly, what would you like to see changed within the Siren School District? I don't know that I can fairly answer that right now with digging in and doing a little bit of homework on on that particular thing for that particular question. Thank you

010very much sir. Thank you guys. Okay. Allergies. Oh, sorry. Um, yep. We're going to pass out the ballots now. And please write down uh which candidate you want to vote for. You can also uh put them back in. Yeah. Is that a voice vote? Unless requested, it's done by ballot. Okay. Just for clarification, will the um votes be announced out loud? Yeah, that we're doing it all in open. Um yeah, we'll get back to you here. I'll get So, yes, you can write down the name of one of the candidates or you can write down none of the above if you would so choose to do so. And then I'm sorry. Did you have I had Okay, perfect. And then do we give it to We could give it to Lisa to read or Lisa

011want it or Carrie or Kevin or um not me. I can't. Yeah, we'll have Lisa do it. I don't know if she can write it. There you go. You ready? One for two for one for Jesse. Three for Cy. Four for Cy. and two for Jesse. So, if I heard that correctly, that gives us a total of four for Corey and two for Jesse, which gives Corey the majority vote. and we welcome him to his new position. You raise your right hand and read this. I, Corey D. Bower, have been have been elected or appointed to the school district of Siren board. swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Wisconsin and will faithfully and impartially discharge the duties of said office to the best

012of my abilities. So help me God. you sign it and I'm going to ris it. You like a copy of this? Again, congratulations and Congratulations on your election and Eric's re-election. All right. One more clarification. I know that Holly had done her. I'm assuming Eric, have you? Okay. Thank you. All right. On to board reorganization. So, the first thing we're going to do is look for nominations for board president. Does any board member wish to make a nomination? I'll make a nominate um for president. Second. I nominate Katie. Hold on. You don't need a second. Yeah. So, okay. I got I got Kelly. We got one nomination for me. We got one nomination for Katie. And who did that come from? That came from Paulie. Do I have any other nominations? Any other nominations? All

013right. Just like before. Yeah. a little bit easier. Okay. Okay. So, we're voting for president. Yes. That one. Yes. I guess Lauriana for Yeah. Three for Tom, four for [Music] Tom, five for Tom, six for Tom, and one for Katie. Okay. So, six votes for me, one vote for Katie. Uh, congratulations, Tom. You're the president. Woo. Move back here. I didn't want to load up too much. Thank you all. I appreciate it. And we'll now move on to the vice president. Looking for nominations for vice president. Jamie, are you vice president now? I'm current. I nominate Jamie, vice president. Any other nominations? Any other nominations? Any other nominations? Congratulations, Jamie. You're the vice president. All right, moving on to treasurer. Nominate Katie for We have one nomination for Katie. Any other nominations? Any other nominations?

014Congratulations, Katie. You are treasurer still. We got proactive, so we didn't need it. All right. And then clerk. [Music] Oh, all right. I'll nominate for question. We have a nomination for Eric Bber. Any other nominations? Any other nominations? Any other nominations? Congratulations, Eric. You are Mhm. Right. Okie dokie. Um, as far as uh I'm going to reorganize committees when we get to the committee meeting part of it and we'll just go into that at that point for scheduling purposes. Um, so moving on, uh, Debbie Bernett Bar, sorry, Bar loan options. You can come up here. I'll give Yeah, Debbie, I'll give her a little. So, um, as you know, uh, with our referendum that we did, we were looking at the board of actually chose Community Bank for a 10-year loan. I don't know if

015you remember that. um community bank came back and and we had talked to them recently and they just don't feel like they can handle a loan based on the size and the number of years and that. So I just reached out to Debbie who has helped us through the process from the beginning to talk to our local bank as well. And so when I reached out to her, she's with Baird also works with our budget forecast model and that and we'll be talking referendum when that comes to be. But in the meantime, um she's got set up several options um for that loan. Debbie, I don't know if you have the numbers from when we did the presentation to the public. Like I have this sheet right here about the percentage and and the rate

016and the years just so they were Oh, just so I don't know if you had that, but Yes. So when we presented to the public, we had a certain percentage interest rate that we were presenting in addition to the length of the years on the loan. Um, so she's that'll compare to some of the things that she'll be talking about tonight. So I'm just going to turn it over to Debbie. She's an expert. She's very intelligent in this area and so she's going to help us through with the next option since Community Bank could not take our own this one time. Thank you. Good evening. Good evening. So it's good to be back. Um, most of the time I've gotten to present with you, it's been virtual. So thank you for having me in person

017as well. So last time we talked, we were monitoring the three different options for the bank loan. So just to backtrack further, referendum passed in November for the facility portion, 1.4 million. We looked at several financing options and the local bank was competitive within it. And so we at that time thought it best to keep the business local, go to the local bank and they could finance it for a 10-year balloon. and we looked at the three different scenarios with the balloon, right? So, when I heard from Kevin that the local bank isn't able to anymore, we came back to what are some other options that we have. So, in your board docs, we put together a similar three three option scenario to what we looked at originally updated with current assumptions and such. So,

018there are three main ways outside of the local bank that we could secure the financing for you. All three of these scenarios have assumed a June 10th date to have the funds in your account so that you can move forward with the projects. I know that um one of the projects I know is itching to to start to move forward at least. So, they're all assuming a June 10th issue date. Um the first is a state trust fund loan and that one they they have static rates. They're posted on the website. For a 20-year maturity, it would be a 6 and a half% interest rate. we've used to the full 20 years of borrowing authority. And we'll talk about some nuances of these on the next slide when we get there. But this comes in

019at the most expensive option if we factor in principle and interest. The annual payment levy. So this doesn't come out of our operational funds. It's an additional levy would be about 125,000 with a total cost of about 2.5 million if you paid as scheduled. This of course and we talked about that in the last meeting. Um this is a six and a half percent could refinance it if interest rates come down come down and you can prepay as well. For comparison purposes we used a 525 a 5.25% for the referendum planning rate. So this option would come in higher than what we had run as estimates during the referendum. The middle one, um, it's labeled as a bank loan. Essentially, instead of working with your local bank, we reached out to some of the larger

020network banks. And in this case, the bank is Huntington. They're very active with school district debt, and they offered a 4.7% which is a very good rate in today's market. We have it modeled out over 20 years. We're still waiting to hear back from them. They may require similar to what your local bank said where if we call it a 10-year balloon, they might require a 15-year balloon and then you could then refinance if you weren't able to chip away. So, same concepts. We weren't able to finalize as of today. For apples and apples to apples, we did 20-year for this comparison, but know that it may need to be 15. Um, this is the lowest cost option, an annual levy of about 110,000 for to repay with a total cost a little over 2

021million. And we'll talk about the prepayment and such on the next slide. And then the third option is a market issue. And that's where we take this and we go to broader investors, life insurance companies, retail investors, and such. And the current estimated estimate in today's market is a 566. Um the the 4.7 that I just talked about on the bank loan, that's known. The 566 is just an estimate at this point. We did allow for about 35 basis points of cushion. Meaning if we locked in today, it'd be 35 lower. Um but it still is higher than the the bank loan, lower than state trust fund. Total cost would be approximately 2.36 million annual levy of about 118,000. So of those three, if we look purely at the levy and the cost, the bank

022loan comes in at the lowest cost to the district as scheduled um with that known rate of 4.7. Um, we were waiting. They have to do a preliminary credit check on on siren before they can say a go-ahad. And we did hear back from them today that it you passed credit committee. So, pending the board saying yes and we find out some of the details that you're you're good to go in that avenue. State trust fund loan. There's no credit check. Market issue. um we'd go to the market um unrated insured and so we know we can access the market that way. The market or the bank loan was the only one where we had to make sure we passed credit which you did. I have a question. Why don't we look at US Bank

023or Bremer Bank as local banks? I mean why are we just looking at community? Do we discuss it with Bremer Bank or is there a reason why we don't? Um well, Community Bank was our bank that we dealt with and the other one chose not to work with us on other projects in the past. Yes. So we don't Community Bank has been the most flexible. That's where we have our Yeah, I understand that. I was just curious with them, you know, after they said, you know, we don't want I just didn't know if there was ever a communication with Bremer or I mean, US Banks usually, I mean, they just left here, so they're still in the area. We haven't reached out to all three. And correct me if I'm I can't remember exactly, but

024community was the only one that really warmed up to us. I can't I don't want to say maybe they don't work with schools regularly. If Huntington does work with schools regularly, it could just be that as a potential. I was just curious maybe US worked with Webster or not, you know, being that their their branch is still open in Webster. Just curious. And you sure can. What what you could do is take this 4.7% and go to those two banks and say, you know, can you meet or beat this or would you be interested? And if they would, you sure could. Okay. Great idea. Yeah. I'm not I'm not against like what what we're proposing. I was just curious just knowing there's two other banks in the area. I was just curious. Where is the

025Huntington Bank located out of? Where is the main That's a good question. Um, I honestly don't know. I mean, so many are virtual online. I've heard of them before. Yeah, that's right, Paul. They bought TCF. Yeah. Oh, okay. So, they're not in Minneapolis, but there are branches in Minneapolis. I mean, Midwest, but I really don't Okay. Yeah, that's a great familiar me at least. um they were really active this fall and um they were uh just great partners to schools through the fall referendum process. So it was nice to see them come back now this spring and and have something to offer to So would that be a quick turnaround then Debbie if I and if I did reach out to these banks just do it quickly as I can and just see because we're

026still waiting anyway from Huntington. There are a few details to to work through. Our goal would be if you if you choose to work with your local bank, that's something that you can work directly with them on and get the approvals at the board level. If we do move forward with a bank loan or a market issue, it initiates with board all of them do board action, but we're involved in those. And so our thought was we would target your May board meetings or board consideration with the idea that we could then have the funds in your account in June. So we'll have time for the main meeting to get this if that's what you prefer. Yeah, I don't I just comment I guess I don't know the rest of Yeah, Huntington is headquartered out

027of Columbus, Ohio. So just as people ask, but there's branches. Yeah, but yeah, there's branches all over. So the second page uh that I wanted to just highlight some of the similarities and differences between the investment vehicles. So the state trust fund loan there isn't a cost in order to initiate it. You work directly um with with them in order to set it up. Um it does have the highest interest rate though. So you're you're paying on the back end to save on the front end. If you are interested in that, some of the details, it can be called, which means prepaid at any time um between January and August every year. So if you wanted to refinance it, it has a flexibility there. They allow you to finance it up to the 20 years.

028And um you can then prepay it annually as well. You can refinance it. And there's really no offering documents you put together. The state trust fund has preset paperwork that the district fills out. It's a very prescribed method as they go through the placement. There is a cost of issuance to that. And because of how it's structured, it would have to be paid out of the 1.4 million. So, you would have a little less for the projects. I understand they're they're okay budget-wise for now to where that could fit. Um, but just something to to be aware of in the process. you save the most total interest over the project with a little cost up front. Um, that one wouldn't be prepayable for the first five years, but then could be refinanced or prepaid thereafter

029unless it was refinanced on the taxable basis in the meantime. Um, the amortization, we're still waiting to hear if they need to do the 15-year balloon or we'll finance it for 20 years from the get-go so we can finalize that when we hear back. Um, you can prepay it. There are some nuances in there that we have to help you monitor, but um you can prepay. And then to issue that debt, we help you fill out what's called a term sheet. You've already passed their credit, but in there it has your enrollment, it has your property value, just some basic things that they then put in their files in order to make it final. And then the public offering is the highest cost option up front. It's the middle cost option as we look at

030total interest cost. The public one, however, we can have them upsize the issue in order to cover the costs on your behalf. So, we go out to market, they send you 1.5 million, they generate premium for the other 37,000 and that goes to pay the bond council um which exists in the placement. um it covers our fee, it covers the official statement and such. That one is doesn't um have as much flexibility with the call. So market right now wants an 8 to 10 year call. And why that is is at at some point we think interest rates will come down. So they want to they'll offer you a lower rate today, but they want some assurance that you won't refinance on a taxable basis as soon. And so you could refinance it taxable prior

031to but to get the full tax exempt which is the lower rate you need to wait a longer than the placement or the state trust fund loan. Um we can finance it up to 20 years. You can prepay your def fees um at any time. And that one the the reason why the cost is higher you have to do a full official statement which is about this thick and it's the borrowing document that goes out to all the investors and that could be like I said a life insurance company retail accounts. We even had a school district who had a community member. Usually you have to have at least a h 100,000 or so to invest and a community member wanted to buy some of the debt. We're able to arrange that. So um so

032I wanted you to see all the different options that went with them. The placement is the lowest cost of these here and as long as it fits within the budget of the 1.4 million to pay those cost of induence, it it seems like the the most cost effective for you long term. But it really is the board decision with how you if you want to choose any of these pending hearing from local bank. Did I explain that? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Do you have any questions related to it or anything you thought of that I didn't cover? Not off hand. If you do have anything, I can always get it to her as well. I mean, we're two months out right now for this date of June 10th. So, if something gets deferred past

033May, we're going to be into July or August of getting funds. And it's not a rush on our end, right? Um except the rates might change, right? Um the issue would be as you look to do some of these projects typically over the summer months. Yes. And they're lined up to start. Yeah, you got Um, at this point I think we need to get word from those other two local banks and we should look at making a decision whether we're going to go with potentially a local bank or the Huntington offer. Yeah. Um, I would definitely bank option on here and then look at if there would be a local option. Yeah, that would be fine with me. So, is this a motionable item or are we just working this? I think we just Yeah,

034it's okay. But I I just It's nice to have it formal in minutes. So, you just give me directive on what to do. So, somebody would make a motion just to do that. All right. I'll make a motion that uh we go with the bank loan option after looking into the possibility of a local bank to match uh the Huntington rate. I'll second that. All those in or a motion by myself, seconded by Kelly. Wait, you said we'll go with the Huntington Bank or are you saying we'll look at the other ones first? We'll look at the other ones first if they can come in at the same I was just confused about the wording. Yeah. But if there is paperwork that needs to move forward with that Huntington Bank one. So my question for

035you is that's why I want you to do it in a motion. So let's say I reach out to one of the locals and they're willing to do it and it's lower. Can I just roll? That's That's what because I think you want to move on this, right? Yeah. Yeah. And then I'll work with you and just make sure I'm doing everything properly in terms of the that there's no hidden costs or anything like that. Can we amend the motion with just a friendly amendment that says that we would agree to the lowest rate between Huntington and the local banks and then that would give you the Yeah. Because I figure you guys just want to you don't want to come back and meet again, right? You want to move on it because we need

036to get these projects going. Yeah, unless it needs to go to budget committee next month if it's available at that point and then it can come to the full meeting if there is anything to report back. So if we say if it's the same or lower move forward with a local bank. Yes. And otherwise we only concerned with the the rate. No, I'm the terms in general. Yeah. If the terms match and it comes in with a lower rate or better terms Yeah. Um we would go with a local bank. So, we already have one motion. It's already been seconded. Uh, if we want to redo this, we're basically going to have to redo the motion all over again. So, so we have it was a friendly amendment. So, it can just if you're willing

037to accept it as the maker of the motion, then it just flies. Y All right. With the friendly amendment of going with the local bank, if they come in with a lower rate or better terms and going ahead with that, first time. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Thank you very much. Deb appreciate it. Thank you. Yes. All right. Moving on. We have a donation from Angstrom Construction Middle School track team. I'll make a motion to accept donations middle school track snacks from Instrom Construction. I'll second it. We have a motion by Jamie, seconded by Paulie. All those in favor say I. I opposed. Moving on. Uh comments from the public. Do we have any public that wish to speak this evening? Okay. Treasures report. You want to say anything about this, Laura?

038Do you guys see it at the budget meeting? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, is there any of the forecasting information to speak about yet? Um, I was just going to talk about it in my report. Um, so well, I'll make a motion to accept the treasures report for March. We have a motion by Katie, seconded by Eric. All those in favor say I. I. I'm going to abstain from that. I didn't have a chance to look it over. And I was just going to say you guys probably have a lot of questions about them as well. All those opposed. Okay. So we have one obstainy. Be Cory. Cory, do you wish to be marked as an obstainy as well? Yes, please. We have two abstaining. Okay. Are this the expenditure spreadsheet? This is information purposes, correct?

039You guys didn't see this at I don't know if we saw this exact one but yes we did because I I do okay so I had the the dashboards if you remember those and so this is basically everything in a nutshell and you asked me to just this looks better so yeah I mean it's still but I can have them both I can have both the dashboards and the so this is the tracking of our current expenditures in percentage um and we look really good right I mean we we are spending around at budget trying to keep at the quarter and we're right on in terms of the third quarter. Um but as I mentioned before, one of the things that we're concerned about was the PTO time was new. Something we didn't have any

040experience in dealing with because it's different than just vacation or um personal days. So that's something that we're watching as well. And so once the next one is updated, we'll have more information for you. And we should have the budget forecasting sheet available as well. And will that one include that short-term borrowing? Did we? I thought you said you had figured out a way to represent the short-term borrowing because that's not a DPI requirement. in the model, it'll show on the cash flow tab, not in the the expense for the interest, the interest expense for it will show up as a line item on the 10 expenditure tab. Yeah. Um the cash or it gets picked up in the cash tab. Okay. Okay. So, just since that's been something that we've been looking at is

041how much we're short-term borrowing and not having a means of visually seeing it every month other than on the treasures report. And this was moreformational. This one didn't get approval. That was just to show you where we were. And some of these accounts, um, it shows a large surplus in or unspent because it doesn't get allocated until the end of the year. So, in case anyone was wondering why we still have like 100% of one of these or some of these others are higher as well, that's why. And then there was um looks like some increases in the business administration and central services over the proposed budget and there were some rates that were raised regarding telephone and whatnot from what we were told. So, thank you for the information. All right, president's report. Um,

042I just want to say it's wonderful to have a full board once again. Uh, really appreciate um our newly elected, our reelected, our appointee joining us. Um, look forward to accomplishing great things alto together and hopefully we got great year coming up and hopefully we're able to finish this one strong as well. Uh, don't forget we're into oh track season and baseball and all those wonderful things. So, let's get out there and make sure Oh, softball. Yes. and make sure we're supporting Dragons and the Storm and all of our kids. Baseball's going to be going till July. Never too early to start supporting. We're here at 7:30 tonight. Crap. They got it all. Yep. Been doing good, too. So, congratulations. All right. on to the superintendent reports. Um, I started sharing this several years ago

043because there was questions about it and what kind of usage our our students did. So, I just have them at the end when they do it, I just have them printed out each year. Um, just to let you know it is a valuable program. Um, and just wanted to share that that document with you, let you know where we're at. And we don't pay for that, right? Like it's just a free free service that comes in. Thank you. It's a great service. I hope Yeah, it really it really is. Hope we continue to have probably you would know maybe the only time some of these kids sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. See you. See you, Dennis. Thanks for cleaning. Plus, it helps like you'll get notes like on certain stuff they come across and stuff like that,

044too. So it's like stuff you might not even be aware that your kids were dealing with even if they do go to the dentist normally. So yeah, great program. Absolutely. Fundraiser information. Um just as the board directs me to do so. Um this is another fundraising effortformational to the to the board. You can see the purpose there. I like that's local too. Yep. Hopefully they sell a ton of pizzas. I think they're done now. I think it was done on which you got in eighth grade, huh? The pizzas. It was eighth grade. I don't know what day they were done. Sophia was supposed to talk. She's seventh grade. It started on the eth. So hopefully everyone's got their freezer full now or will square one had some issues with that power. Been there. Not fun.

045All right, moving on. Beard consulting forecasting update. Um yeah, so I uh when talking with the budget finance committee, um we wanted to go ahead and use more of a a numberbased system for forecasting for let's say referendum dollars and things like that. Um we tried a forecasting model several years ago. It was very difficult, very um unuser friendly. It was a different company and we we had a lot of difficulty with it. So, we kind of pulled back and it was like I mean it was like $6,500 was a little costly and we just had a hard time using it. So, then after talking with uh the committee decided to look at maybe another model. The bar model which Debbiey's very involved in is very highly used in the state of Wisconsin. Um I

046don't know how many districts exactly but it's it's very very well used in Wisconsin and it's highly recommended by our auditors and by our rating company S&P Global. Um, so we met, it was a $4,000 cost, a little cheaper than a 6,500 for that's for a year and we do get consulting services with this. Um, we met with Marquez Gooseman, who's our consultant, to start prepopulating the budget model. last week. Um, basically what he does initially is gets everything prepopulated and most of it is based on uh, you know, he uses our our our assessed value and different things like that based on the geography of the area like not a lot of information that we use. Now he's asking for the specific information to be put in. We're meeting with him tomorrow. So for

047example, the the spreadsheet that I just shared with you with the percentages of the expenditures, that was something that he just guesstimated at. he didn't have the actual numbers in there. So, he did give us some numbers and outlook, but it's not based on real numbers. It's based on an assumption. And so, Laura has done that, sent that to him. He's uploaded that data. So, that'll be something we'll talk about tomorrow. The other thing is it's a very conservative model. So, it does make assumptions that sometimes the expenditures later in the year may not be as great as what the model is suggesting. It's conservative, which is good. Mhm. Um but uh so that that was a good point and the one thing I want to mention is the man he talked to us right

048away initially he said your budget is very clean. He said it's a very clean budget. Now obviously we have expenditures and revenue issues which that's that's an issue it's always going to be. Um but in terms of the the budget itself and this expenditures the coding and the cleanliness of the budget he was very very impressed with that. and he said most districts he meets with initially um he has to do a lot of cleaning up of or organizing of the budget. So kudos to Laura for for making that that known um or doing that. So that's um been beneficial and um we'll have more data. I I'd like to have an early meeting in May because there's going to be some budget decisions are going to have to be made. So, I don't know

049when committees are going to be determined or whatever, but almost the first week of May because teacher contracts come out on May 15th and we have to make decisions before that point. Has uh has he given does he have any ability I'm stuck on the short-term borrowing thing of looking at our short-term borrowing and having an estimation when we might be out of that cycle. Um I don't know that we're ever going to be out of the cycle. The problem that we're having is we're short-term borrowing too regularly, right? And normally districts short-term borrow in between payments. And that maybe that's what I mean. So, so what? Yes, he we did bring that up right away. Okay. Um there may be some strategies we have to do. But the bottom line is I think we

050need to just look at some reductions. I think that's where it all starts because and he'll lay it all out for us. And so that's why it's nice to have a third party at least tell us like what we think we already know. But we don't think you guys always think we know that. So, it helps if we have somebody who's guiding us in that manner and rightfully so. So, um we'll meet with him tomorrow. Um I'll email the board or Tom or whatever you want me to do and we'll set up a meeting as quick as possible on it. Um and then yeah, he's already got some scenarios running in his mind already. He was a a business manager in big district for many years and he consults directly now with Bar. Um, so

051he's seen and he he made it clear he's seen a lot of difficult scenarios as ours. So yeah, we just need to get things more in line and maybe a little bit more realistic. I know that with the short-term borrowing, it's kind of a revolving door, but the door should still be able to close once in a while. and we talked about cash flow and that and hopefully it will if we do this and get more in line with things uh we'll be in more enticing once again to places like Community Bank to deal with and whatnot. Um cuz we're always going to have to be doing it and like to have them on our side a little bit easier in the future. Moving on, Osbo U. Um, just a document I received. Just wanted

052to give Laura kudos on that forum. Good job. I think you actually months ago when talking about So, she did did achieve it. Just wanted to share that with you. I got that letter. So, good. Yeah. Excellent. Keep up the great work. and update on USDE title six certification. So this was um a very difficult scenario dealing with because the fed what happened was the federal government um sent out um documents that they wanted state organizations like the department of public instruction to certify that all of their districts were in line and will be in line with their um equity inclusion and inclusion policies. Right? So what they were doing is they were peppering the DPI and other states and wanting them to sign off on this because hey if you don't sign off on

053it we're going to hold your federal funds. So it put people in a panic mode but DPI had some questions. So they fired back some questions didn't get a response from DOE and then like wait a minute and so a lot of the professional organizations like Wazda and their their legal counsel that were saying guys don't sign these documents. So then once there was a deadline that was extended, once the deadline came close, which was last Friday, I reached out to our legal counsel because they're saying talk to your local legal counsel. And one of the things he said was, you know, talk to your board president. And obviously Tom didn't have a lot of background on this. And you just went, we tried. Well, the thing with it is is I wasn't willing to

054just go ahead and sign off on something like this without consulting the rest of the board in regards to this matter because some of the initial things that were coming out in regards to this letter that they wanted to sign would have potentially affected some of the programs we have here at school regarding the Native American community And it I didn't want to set up our kids basically for another loss or another failure. And therefore I didn't want to sign off on it. But as you saw from the letter we received uh supposedly anything in regards to that is not going to be touched at this. So that letter coming through was one of the questions we were like didn't know. So a lot of the districts in our seisawa all of a sudden started

055sending sending them in. So I think 17 sent in the signed document and 16 didn't and legal counsel was always saying don't necessarily sign off on this. You can always come back later and talk with your board and whatever. So anyway, our council said look if this document doesn't look like the certification documents that you normally sign off on for those federal funds, don't sign it. And it was just a it was like a a DOE memo came through and they were just saying get it signed and all this and that. So we just held um because it didn't look like the same document we held it. Um I did send there were I showed Tom there were alternate documents that were created by an attorney letters that you could send not the actual document

056that you signed but letters saying you're basically doing it. So, I reached out to a couple other superintendent and I did send a letter to DPI saying we're in compliance based on the format that the uh legal council gave us and it is legally defensible. So, that document would hold up. But the bottom line is after you saw the dispatch letter come out, it seems like it's going to be a court issue now. And I don't think districts are going to have to comply with any of this at this point in time because the courts are involved now. They've denied it in several states, which I think you've seen. But this was a source of a lot of tension and stress because obviously we want to sign off on it because we want to get

057federal funds. They were threatening not to give it to us. But at the same time, they were saying if you sign off on it, we don't know what that means for your district, especially with our population. We're very concerned about that. So anyway, that's where we are now. It's in the course and and I'll keep you up to date on where we are. Um, so they're not okay. So we were just on a WBO conference Laura and I with this business officials they indicated that this year 24 25 federal funds are fine nothing they can't do anything right now next year 25 26 there might we might see a modest decrease in federal funds we don't know this and that and that's why the forecast model is so important because we have to be more

058conservative because we don't know what our federal funds are going to be and we never know our budget until October which we begin our fiscal year in July no business runs like that so That's that's another thing that we we have to factor in or whatever. And that's what he was trying to do, Marquez. But yeah, so anyway, but they did say then in 2627 it's going to be the wild west with federal funds. And they have no idea what that and that's a quote. They just said we have no idea this is going to be crazy when it that's just what they were saying. I don't know if it's true, but three years down the road, that's when they said or two years from now this year, which is another good reason to get

059on with this forecasting because they'll be able to project all those possible scenarios a lot better than just us guessing at random. And just another thing, we were never complied to do anything from the district in terms of that signature. We were never it was never on the districts. It was always on the the state TPI, right? So, yeah, I and I did ask Kevin to see what other districts that have a potential similar makeup to our demographic um were doing with it. Um the one thing he found out was I guess uh Webster was sending out a survey in regards to it. Um, and like Turtle Lake did sign off on it and I don't know if any of the other So, Webster I have it right in front of me. Webster's waiting. Um,

060Turtle Lake did sign off. Unity did sign off. Um, Gransberg I think sent the modified letters that I did. Um, but there's a variety of them. Luck signed off on it. Um, yeah. So, I mean, I can read them all to you if you want. No, it's not. And the thing of it was was that it mainly just was reiterating that we're following all the title six things and then they snuck in a line in regards to the DEI stuff and that was where the big part of the clarity was coming up and we already are with title six as it were. So, or did I say title n I meant title six. Can we keep this paper? The form. Oh, yeah. I'll send it to you. I mean, yeah, absolutely. Anyone that wants to

061see it, you're more than welcome to. Yeah, absolutely. Um, actually, I can send you the letter that I sent, too. So, I can send you the letter and the form. That'd be great. Sure. Any other questions or thoughts? No, it's just it's up to the courts. Yeah. Yeah. So my understanding is based on the letter that I just put in here that's in bold is like I don't think it's legal for the government to do that say hey we're going to hold federal funds if you don't comply with DEI. So that's kind of that's how I interpret. I don't know if that's accurate, but we just don't know what compliance with EI means. And with our diversity, we didn't want to do anything that might cost us. They were cautioning us that the government couldn't

062sue you if you did sign off on this, but private entities could sue you. So, they said, you know, be careful of that. So, they were just cautioning at this point in time. So, okay. Yeah, if you can send us that stuff. Yeah, there's truth. Any other thoughts or comments? Okay, moving on. Principal's reports. Mrs. Herman. Um, we have a lot of upcoming events at the elementary school as we near the end of the school year here. Um, starting with this Friday, we have our fifth grade going over to Max to the Native American Museum over there. It's a culmination after they read the Birch Bark House. I didn't I never know if it's Birch Bark or just Birch House, but after they read that as a whole fifth grade, then they go over to

063Max and get to learn even more. So, always an exciting trip for them. Um, we have on May 20th our spring music concert, um, which is new for the elementary that we get to have something in spring also. And so that will be our students singing as well as the band playing. Um, our fourth grade is headed to Fort Paul Leavon up in Danbury. um one when they are studying the history of Wisconsin, they go up there as their culmination of of that study. Um we've got 4K graduation on the 29th at 1:30. Um, our third grade is going on a field trip tomorrow to Huntill Ottabon Societ Ottabon Society in Serona. And then they're also going to Crex Meadows on the trip at the end of May. And then our last day of school

064because it's a full day, we have field day for the kids. Um, so all the different games that they go outside and play and interact and have fun. A lot of things happening. Well, very exciting. There's a band field trip, too. I was just going to say the band field trip is Yeah. First two is a fifth and a six, isn't there? Two different ones. Tuesday. And then kindergarten is going to the park. They are going to the park on the 13th. They're walking to Dairy Queen first and then they're going to the park. We have a magic show coming in on the 9th also full of excitement and and fun. Petting zoo. Yeah. It's every day in the elementary. Anyone have anything for Carrie? Miss Campbell. So, our graduation's coming up May 16th. I

065know you guys have on the agenda to decide who's coming um for our um regular diploma students. Um, couple of things that we're really excited about for that is that as of right now, we are 100% on track this year. Um, which has been our goal. Um, of course, we also have our alternative diploma as well and included in that. Um, I'll talk more about that. Um, another huge highlight for this year's seniors. So, it was similar last year. Um, but I've just been starting to track it more and get a handle on things um to kind of have an idea about future directions. But this year's class of seniors will be graduating with a total of 96 college credits, which is over $15,000 worth of value. So, for our very small class, that's pretty

066substantial. So, those are dual credits, which um happen a variety of ways for our seniors. Um, one of the things that we're looking at for next year is opening up dual credit or early college now to juniors as well. We have some interested parties. Um, right now it's required that we pay for at least up to 18 credits, but a lot of schools in Lakeland are moving beyond that and starting the early college now as juniors so that they can have even more um when they're graduating. So, we're very excited about those pieces. When you put those numbers together, can you put together the actual students that are utilizing it instead of like all the students in the senior class? I'm guessing not every one of them has gotten some of those credit. Like how

067many Yeah. of the 96 credits, how many students is are utilizing that? Yeah. And it is it's our top percentage or whatever of kids that are doing it. Like last year, I know we had one senior that graduated with 21 credits. And so you can see that it's it can it might only be a few kids which actually we're working on putting together like um a social media post for it. So we're kind of gathering all that data. But um the other thing is on May 28th of this year from 6:00 to 7:00 we will be having our second annual alternative diploma graduation. So we just want to invite everyone. Um we have we believe three that will be walking at that. So, we're excited about that. What day did you say? The 28th. Uh,

068yep. The 28th 6 to 7 high school auditorium. It was last year was a real great event. Um, seeing those kids walking their families and they were so excited and yeah, it was great. Look forward to it again. Is regular graduation here? Yes. In the at seven. Yep. Awards tonight's next this this next Friday. Friday. This next next Friday the 9th. [Music] And then what day are you doing the [Music] um when they walk down the hall? It's the same. It's the 16th. So they come in for rehearsal in the morning and then walk the halls and then they get dismissed. Yeah. And then they usually go do and come back for any other questions about graduation. [Music] Talk to you later to find out what my son put down for his name. Good luck.

069Okay, we'll do that. All right, bullying. All right, so um we have been doing a lot of work with bullying, you know, the last few years and we've been kind of tracking. Now granted, our bully report is not like all-encompassing when it comes to bullying situations or even reporting, but it is something that we have that we can track and look at the data. So, um, we are excited that we're considerably down this year in the middle high school from where we were at last year at this time. There were 22 total bully reports on that form, which is online. Um, and this year we're at 14 incidents. Um, one of the things about it is 90 probably 8% of the time, um, when we look into the situations, they're generally deemed as conflict among

070students. Um, a lot of times we'll get, you know, one bully report against kid X and then kid X fills out a bully report against kid Y and it's back and forth talking about like what's going on. Um, so one of the things that we've really worked on this year is using our restorative practices approach with issues of conflict in general. Um, whether that comes from the bullying report or not. Um, and that has been really really successful. Um, so basically we have pre-conferences with each kid individually. We talk about what the problems are. We talk about, you know, ways, strategies to um, deal with conflict and relationships and things like that. um Montana Weaver, our middle high school guidance counselor, and I um meet with the kids and then we ask them if they

071would like to have a, you know, structured conversation with the other individual. Um it's always 100% up to both parties to decide that yes, they do want to be a part of that. And so there are times where kids choose not to, and it's not something that we ever ever ever make kids do. But if both parties say, "Yeah, I think I would feel better to be able to sit down and have adults there and have structured conversation about what's been going on and and how it's been making me feel and that kind of thing." Um, then we move forward with setting that up and then we have specific ground rules for that space. Um, and then we ask them specific questions that are aligned with restorative practices. Um, and then, you know, the kids

072typically are able to work things out, talk about things. Um, and these are generally, you know, lower level type things, but I actually had a couple of kids, I asked them, um, if they would share their experience. So, I have a couple of statements from some students um, that have been involved. Mostly, these are peer-to-peer. We also have had some students and staff. So, when students and staff are butdding heads or not seeing eye to eye on things, we've done it a couple of times that way as well. Um, but we had one student that said, "We got to talk about what happened from each point of view. I was able to understand the other person. It has been going good since then. We are close and repaired the harm that happened." And then I

073had another middle school student that says, "A friend and I were avoiding each other and getting into arguments. We did a group and talked about things we did wrong to each other and how we could move on. We started talking to each other again and our friends. when we got and when we get into arguments now we are better at talking through the problem and we hang out more. So those are just some student voice um examples of how they're feeling about the process. Are parents involved in that at all? We h we have one. Yeah. Um that was a a student and a staff member where we did have a parent involved and that's because the student requested that the parent be there. So the parents aren't notified automatically if they're putting the reports

074in. No, but it's always low level. Yeah. So, in restorative practices, if there was ever a situation that was to be deemed higher level, then you would involve parents before. And there have been even slightly higher level, we've informed parents ahead. And then if parents put in the actual put it in um there's also emails go back to the parents after explaining what was done. Um just so that that's right. So with these numbers is um are these the students reporting the bullying or is this students and parents reporting the bullying? Bull bully reports. So whoever filled them out and it's just this is the amount of reports not the amount of persons. Yeah, this is the reports. Okay, just double checking. Um I would love if we could also get the numbers for this

075in elementary as well at some point here. just to be able to contrast and compare those. My students at the elementary only fifth grade know how to use the bullying at this time. But their parents know how to as well. I'm not sure about that. Excuse me. Um, sorry. It is in my handbook for the upcoming year, but we haven't ever used the bullying form until this year, fifth grade. So it's just not something we've done. So I'm making changes in that as is the form like a link to the form is it on the Chromebook on the homepage like Jesse's already it's on like our website homepage you go for students. Okay. So students or parents can fill it out. So I as part of the handbook um because I've been working on that

076it's it's going to be how to get to that form and students and parents are encouraged. I mean all the kids have a Chromebook. Is there a way that Jesse could upload that link as just an icon on the homepage so that it's there and and it would be a little less rub for them to try to get on the website and go to the spot and find it if it's just a link right there. Imagine if you could create an icon for the homepage, right? That would just take you right to that if you clicked on it. I don't know if that would be helpful for students. I mean, we don't want to over encourage obviously, but we want people to utilize it. Like, you wonder if the numbers went down because bullying went

077down or just because people aren't taking all those steps to get online and fill the form out. And if it if it made it easier for the elementary kids to just go, that's where I go. I don't have to figure out how to web page works at third grade or whatever. And I don't know how far down we'll actually go. I don't know what would be most approp. And we talked about maybe doing fourth grade next year. So we would do fourth and fifth right at the beginning, but I don't think we'd go any lower. Yeah. I mean, it is open to anybody, but if the kids could, you know, the third grader go on there and figure it out, right? Right. Yeah. But it'll be in the handbook. Yeah, that would be good. Anything

078else for Jamie in regards to the bullying? All right, moving on. SP director roles and responsibilities. Yep, it's my month. Um, and this is not an exhaustive list by any means, but as I was sitting down and doing things, I just started jotting stuff down on paper. Um, a good chunk of my time is is spent dealing with special special education as it should be. Um, I do a lot of things with our um, go IDEA, which is our paperwork system. So, I'm reviewing IEPs in there. I'm archiving IEPs. I'm setting up students. I'm setting up staff. Um I am submitting IEPs, transportation logs, attendant care logs for SPS billing. So those have to go down to CISA. Um I am in classrooms. I'm working with kids. I'm doing a lot of running when we

079have walking calls for whatever student. Um, I do schedule IEP meetings. I'm in the middle of writing a few IEPs right now. I participate in early childhood transition planning meetings. Um, procedural self-compliance assessment. We do that every 5 years to make sure that we are following the DPI guidelines. Um, the last one we did was 22 23 school years. So, we will be coming up again in a couple years. Um, additionally, I coordinate the transportation schedule for students that need specialized transportation. Um, I am the district test accommodations coordinator. So, I am responsible for entering all of the accommodations for state testing for ACT, for preac, and for forward. um and making sure that we have all of our information in for our diagnostic learning maps for our alternate assessment for most severe students. Um

080I help with test administration if necessary. Um I've worked on on creating developing test assessment schedules for some of those. Um I'm in the health office every year. I go through all the DPI trainings for medication administration. So if the health aid is out, I can jump in and help out with our required medications. Um I am the homeless liaison. So I'm entering that information um into power school. I am participating in some network opportunities that are virtual this year. Um making sure that we have no errors in wise data which is the state system. um provide information if requested from the homeless. Um I also am kind of charged with the afterchool bus cone duty, making sure that that spot's covered. Um fill in with cafeteria supervision if needed. Um I do the annual

081non-discrimination report and the 5-year non-discrimination report review which was last year. Um and the annual seclusion restraint report. So it keeps me busy. So, um, you have what you would call like a second meaning like if you you obviously have a crazy amount of responsibilities and things that you're doing. Um it's hard to believe that just one person um could do this and I know if you know something where to come up uh that's why I'm asking. So when our previous director was here in maternity leave, Crystal was able to go in and do some of this. Um, and it has since I've been in this position, it actually has evolved into bigger things, especially with wise data coming in. Um, but that I know she's been able to do some of the the GoDaddy

082stuff back when it was Oasis. I had a previous employer that the hit by a bus plan, like what would happen if you got hit by a bus? She has access to do it. Yeah. But it's not one of the things that require her. she's got enough to do with all of the um initial evaluations that have been coming in and some of those kinds of things. So, um what do you think of as far as your staffing right now? I mean, you obviously have a lot to do as far as my staffing right now. Yeah. Or for next year. Um I'm still in the planning stages as of yet. I do not have an applicant either one of my open positions. Um, and those are both full-time teaching positions. They're both teaching positions. Sure.

083Um, and I'm still reviewing the aid situation right now to see if I will need to add any of those staff come fall. for this year in general, do you think you ran at staff or underst staff most of the time? Um, well, it didn't help when one of my parents was out as a long-term sub for 6 months, so that made things a little crazy. Um, we managed to get through it. Um, it would have been nice to have an extra person or two when he was he was out, but everybody's jumps in and helps out and roll with it. Can you remind me how many students do you have graduating out this year? Um, so this year we have three, four. It gets it gets a little convoluted because we had some that

084completed their alternate diploma over the summer. Sure. And some that are working on it this year. And we've actually had a couple that were um no longer in need of specialized instruction that were moved to 504 plants this year. So that's good. Four maybe. Okay. Five. Okay. Four. Five. Yeah. Mhm. you know, uh, what do you think the board could do to help with this with your role? Do you need help? Do you need more things divided out? I mean, it's a lot of it's a lot of things, but a lot of it is are little things. So, it doesn't like every other month I I scan stuff in and submit it to CISA for SPS billing. So, it's stuff that takes time. I have it scheduled, so I'm trying to keep it up on

085a regular schedule, but it isn't anything that like I have to do every week or every day. The walkie calls are every day, but a lot of the paperwork reviewing and archive IEPs, I do that once or twice a month. It's not because I know what I need to look for when I get in there and I know there's a check forms button in there and if there's any red X's, I'm in there trying to figure out what they didn't get done. So, whose position is Beth going into for next year? Because she's switching to full-time sped, right? Correct. She's been split for the last two. Okay. So, she's just been half, but she's going into full. So, there's nobody. She's kind of filling in. Correct. And Rachel's no longer here. Is Rachel still a

086pair of here? Brster year. She is out on medical right now. Okay. And then I guess since this kind of follows with you with Paras with H I was going to ask Carrie about this, but with Hansen going out on maternity, I don't know when will we will you be losing a par is Elliott or going to be subbing? Do we know? No, I don't I don't know. I don't know. Just I don't think so. I think she lined someone else up. Okay. When is she out? Maybe that's what's I was going to ask you. Fall. Okay. She hasn't made any final decisions. And then you pretty much interview when you get applications coming in for Paris. And look, so we really haven't had I've got a couple applications that have recently come in. I

087have not had the time to connect with them and schedule an interview. Okay. Well, school year's almost over anyways, but it would be for next year. there were. Okay, nice. Yeah, thank you. Please keep us in the loop because uh having this many responsibilities, even if they are small, uh some things end up having to give at some point, especially when major fires occur, so to speak. So, um, you know, I think I can say the board basically wants everything to get taken care of as much as possible and have as much support for our sped students because it helps alleviate some of the stress off of the other teachers as well. Many districts don't have a full-time specialed director. They have a part-time director that shares duties if they're a full-time employee. So yeah,

088we are very thankful. Extremely I think so much better here than places that are here with lots of horror stories or have even less than a half. That works with a lot of districts and some some do fine with a part-time or a half time. When it's more than two different districts, it gets way worse. button. Anyone have anything else for Denise? All right. Any education report? Terra's not here this evening. Y she did put her reports in here. Mhm. Anybody has questions? I can looks like Paulo had a decent turnout. You said uh Sugar Bush went well I think at the last meeting. She said that um I graduation bank. Yep. May I same It's on the Yeah, it's on the same page. So, yep. Can't think of anything. Be curious to know if

089there might be any summer programs that she might be looking into. Um, or any education opportunities during the summer for cultural things and whatnot. The tribe has the YES program. So, I know other than Yeah. Other than students Yeah. Other than just the YES program, does she get involved at all? That's more of a question for her. With the tribal like this tribes has like a tribal council with the youth going on. I don't know if but she really doesn't need to. I just know like some of them might but that's also multi multi school district. I feel like she attend. All right. Moving on for approval of the regular SCOR, please pardon me, regular regular school board meetings for the March 31st meeting. I'll make a motion to approve those minutes. I'll second. We

090have a motion by Katie, seconded by Kelly. All those in favor? I opposed. Any abstaining on that? I'm abstaining. I have not read them. Okay. So, let it be noted that Corey and Paulie both abstained. Moving on. New business board members for graduation 2025. Yes, please. I wouldn't mind doing it either. It sounds like we have two volunteers. Three. Three. Well, do we want three or Yeah, we I'm fine with three. I don't care. Put three up there. There's usually only been two. Um, flowers have been ordered, so we would maybe have to look at that, but I'm fine without Yeah, I since my daughter's graduating, typically when my kids have graduated, I've sat as a parent. I still do my talk, but I sit as a parent, so there is another space. You might

091not get a flower. What's that? Oh, you're not giving a speech this year. I'll be good. Here the three who live. Yeah, I was just going to reiterate that. So, it' be Kelly, Jamie, and myself. Any objections? No. Okay. Police department actually in your comments. Yeah. So in the So we got a phone call from the police department just basically stating what's listed in there. As you can see, right? Click on it. Sensitive documents like paperwork. My apologies. I didn't put it in there copy packet. So you might want to just read it. You want me to read it all out? I saw it on the website. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, it's in the public content. You guys have all seen it. And it was just it was a phone call from the police

092department just kind of giving us a heads up and a reminder just I'm not really sure how this could have happened cuz during the expulsion all documents are supposed to be turned in at the end of the expulsion anyways. Um, I mean I I'd prefer if there was more context than just a phone call to the police department. When would we have even seen an unredacted reported and redacted? Exactly. So I don't know unless people's interpretations of redacted are different. So it was just a report to them. They didn't have the actual document that was said to be gotten. This is all we they gave us. This is All right. Keep it in mind. Yes. Can you please read it to the public? Otherwise, tell us where we can find this. It's It's in your

093It's on the agenda. I'll go ahead and read it. I did not see it on uh general It's Yeah, general reminder that no Siren PD reports may be distributed ever. If someone requests them for any reason, the requesttor needs to go to the siren PD with their request. No sensitive document should ever leave close session meetings or expulsion hearings. If they are requested by a parent out of expulsion hearing, they may have a redacted copy only. Siren PD was told that a board member allowed a person to have a copy of an unredacted police report. There's a note board members don't ever get unredacted police reports. So, don't know how this could be true. If a board member did this for whatever reason, it would have already been redacted though when we received it to

094begin with. So that's what the full note on there says it is not public. Yeah, we have I only had access to what the public did. I did not receive anything else and I was able to access. It's not an attachment. Yeah, it's not an attachment. It's in the actual public comment written there. Okay. Yeah. So keep that in mind. Keep doing what we're doing. I guess they just update a whole bunch of stuff within their office in order to actually be able to publicly um give out reports. So, it's probably just a reminder on that. All right, moving on. Policy 187 public comment updated. So, um reviewing our public comment policy. Um, for those that have been to any meetings as of late, um, I've been having to read a, uh, augmented, uh, thing

095from legal or was more like an addition uh, to statement at the beginning of the public comment period. That's just to go ahead and include that language within uh our own policy so that way I don't have to keep doing it or whoever would have been in this position wouldn't have to keep. So there aren't any actual changes. The only other change there is is the dropping. We were going to change it from 5 minutes to 3 minutes, but I don't see that was changed. I saw that I saw the last one that did say five minutes and I saw this one that said the three minutes but I didn't they weren't together so you couldn't really tell it's highlighted right oh it's on this one is the old one sorry my bad yes for

096like 10 people but 30 minutes we figured we had three minutes we still get 10 people for the 30 minutes for more speakers has it been a problem I mean yes it's been a problem to have that We've had so many speakers, they haven't been allowed to speak. No, no, it's just a lot of other districts have limited it down to three minutes. So, we're shortening. But you don't know that everybody would do that? No. But you're saying some people have taken advantage of the five minutes. So, we shortened it to three. But that's the only changes that were put in it was the addition of that language and the changing from five to 3 minutes. So there had been no complaints about five minutes. You just right still 30 minutes long. I understand that.

097But if there was some new incident that came up and somebody felt they needed the 5 minutes, you're saying that they could have had that last month, but they won't have that moving forward, right? And this matches into what other districts or surrounding districts have a threeminut limit? Yeah. Webster has a three minute. We match other districts. If you have one person that wants to speak, are you allowing them up just to the three minutes, not the full 30? unless they want to do a public appearance and do go through that in regards to something. So, they would still have the option of speaking longer if they got onto the agenda ahead of time, right? In regards to something uh or agenda specific that's on the agenda of the day. Yeah. Excuse me. At county

098board, they allow people to give other people their time. Is that an option? And also I saw somewhere in the packet that be at the regular minutes regular meeting not at committee meeting. Can we address that as well? I believe it's in Robert's rules and if we're going by that then somebody can give their minutes away that last part back to you. The other was I saw somewhere in the packet that they nope, it wasn't in the packet, but anyway, I saw that they were talking about it going to possibly just be at the regular meeting and not committee meeting and not have public comment at committ. We'll address this in a little bit, but we're I don't know. Katie's proposing that we go to a committee as a whole. we get to that part.

099But but they're also within the public meeting laws were required to have one uh open or for public discussion per month. Um and we just we haven't been having people show up at committee meetings. So it just that's why we kind of stopped putting it on some of them cuz I guess it doesn't hurt to have it on there though because we just pass over it and then that continues to allow people to have the option to be there. It allows for transparency. Then if so if somebody comes let's say policy committee then we don't have to open it up to the board the regular meeting you mean to right to the regular board meeting because we only have to do it once a month. I would hope that then which one we wanted to

100do. Well, I know, but I'm just saying technically we could already, but I would hope we would never go that route, right? But we only have to do it. There's no there's no harm in having it continue at the committee meeting level though, having it on the agenda just to allow for the transparency of the public can attend and speak there or here. We we're not having people knock on the doors and overload us with public comment at really any point in time. Well, I believe at the pol or the pol or the committee meetings, it's if you're not part of that committee and you'd like to speak, you need to ask that president if you're allowed to ask a question, which I know some of us have been doing, but that's the policy I

101believe that was admin created. So, what we need to I'll make a motion to approve policy 187. Second. Got a motion by Jamie, seconded by Kelly. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed? No. Yeah. No for me as well. We have two oppos. Any abstensions? Okay, majority pass. Moving on to the next bit. Uh, policy 133, filling board vacancies updated. Let Kevin speak to this one. Yeah, this was um we shared this with Bob. He reviewed it and looked it over from WSBY and you can see that the item that he struck Both are struck out. Yeah, I believe those. There they are. Okay, underlines are added. Okay, that makes more sense. I think this was something that came up. So, we were told to have this reviewed by legal. What did you find

102out for a tie for what a tie? Is that was that added? Because we talked about policy. what we're going to do if there was a tie. Yeah, I think I think we're supposed to supposedly there's another policy that we have that says basically there's Yeah. Right here uh five rounds of voting the board still is unable to fill a vacancy. Then they'll con declare a deadlock and then they'll look for nominations in order to break the deadlock. Yeah, that was brought up at the WASB training. There isn't a tiebreaker. You go back to the table every time. Sure. Yeah. Um, so you randomly select a nominee. Yeah. From one of those uh that's nominated by board member. But then they both still get nominated. Yeah. I mean it I don't know. In the past

103and they said the policy was we drew out of a hat. So, I'm just wondering where that That's basically what it is is once we have our nominees, then the one would be picked at random from there. If we went through five rounds and ended up at a deadlock, the board member would then nominate who they wanted, then whoseever names were nominated would get put basically in a hat. Somebody would get picked and that's who gets it. Well, I don't I don't know that that's legal from what we heard at the board training last Tuesday night at Turtle Lake. I mean, that was the purpose for sending this to should be back. However, to get it clear because they said it would just go on indefinitely. They you would go back to the table or

104you would reopen it or you and he's saying five rounds of that and then a tie break. You're saying another day like Yeah. Yeah. There's absolutely no time. I I'll check on that, but I think I think that's accurate. I do believe. So, Cy and Jesse tied tonight. Five times. No, only once tonight and then it goes back again another time on another meeting. No, I think we vote five times. And if every time we voted it was a deadlock, then it we wouldn't have Cory would have gone on tonight. We would have would for next month. Cory and Jesse would have gone home tonight and then they could come back and speak next month to try to get the position again. Basically, that's what it sounds like. It would be reopened for appointees, right?

105So more people could apply if they wanted. I would believe so. Well, then we have to have this looked at again because the last sentence is in order to break the deadlock by the random selection of a nominee. And I did specifically ask the question because I knew the situation that we were coming into tonight. Because we had even number. Yes. And they said you couldn't. So like they said you there is not a tiebreaker. You have to you have to get to the bottom of it. And that's why we asked legal and they are telling us different. So now we don't know. So we did we did ask that question because it kept coming up and he referred us to page two number two. Well, is there ask well what is he is there

106a state statute somewhere that he that these are based off of? Here's his email right here. It's really long. It's like 120 something. So I guess it would be within that.1 to 28 28. Can we ask legal to provide the highlighted state statue? It's right here. That's the state statue. So, I think it got added down at the bottom. State statues under the legal references. And do you see in that state statue five votes draw out of a hat? He's got highlighted here after if after five rounds of voting the board still has been unable to fill the vacancy then the chairperson of the meeting shall declare a deadlock and immediately call for nominations in order to break the deadlock by the random selection of a nominee. All right. So that's in the state statute.

107But then what do you do if like I nominate Corey and Kelly nominated Jesse and you still have them both nominated. You're still going out of the random selection part. That's where the random if if they hadn't nominated them then you would have had to vote right I don't know how many days that's where the drawing of the hat come what's that did nobody raise that there have been a lot of resations for the last several I know. I agree. But you guys all vote, so we're all good. Okay. Well, I mean, there's no I don't think there's any issue in making this update and then as we continue to research it, if we have to make a change in the future, so be it. But I'd rather, you know, as of right now, if

108legal have said this is what is legal, I don't see a problem going with it and then continuing to research it. I'd agree. So, I make a motion to accept the update on policy 133. I will second that. So, we have a motion by Kelly, seconded by Katie. All those in favor? Opposed? Yep. I don't have enough information. I only have what I heard the other night. And so, is it opposed or an abst. Thank you. Yep. Any abstensions? Nope. Okay. So, we have one opposed. Motion passes. On to committee as a whole. Sure. Um, so I'm proposing that we move to a committee as a whole meeting as opposed to having individual committee meetings. Um right now some of us are attending three meetings a month. You guys are uh coming to at least

109four meetings a month. So this would bring it down to two for everyone. Um all the committee members would have an opportunity to hear what is spoken about and then at the regular meeting all votes would be made. Um if a special meeting needed to take place, this would already have a quorum settled at it. We often already have quorums at our committee meetings anyway. So there isn't I don't see an issue with the quorum part and we can clearly state that we're not making any decisions during those. Um we meet the fourth Monday for a regular board meeting on Mondays. So I would propose meeting the second Monday of the month for a committee as a whole. I like it. Personally, I'm against it because we had to move from 5 to 7:30 just

110for me tonight. So, I would have missed the entire thing and hear absolutely nothing for any committee meeting. So, that doesn't work for me. And being a because of work schedule or sports schedules, all of the above and being a 5050 parent, I'm not willing to miss. Is it Mondays that are the issue? Nope. Doesn't matter. We have sports. I have two high school and one middle school. So, we have So, how would it how would it affect it if it was just scheduled on Monday versus the committee scheduled all over the place? Or is it just the fact that Well, she only comes to policy. We always basically plan the policies around usually we have them on Wednesdays because Wednesdays kids only have practice. But aside from that, when you're looking at the potential

111meeting of all the committees, I mean, it's going to be you can't be here for four or five hours. I don't think it would take four or five hours. So, a lot of times the things that are repeated at committees are repeated at a couple of them. Um, we're getting similar information. So, this would be condensing it down so it's not a repeat of, well, this went to the budget meeting and now it's at the policy meeting and they're already the same content. Um, I think we would probably be looking at like a two-hour meeting much like a regular schoolboard meeting. Have you checked into other districts? I think St. Gray Falls does. Yeah. Um, also does. Yeah. Gr does this as well. Was it Webster? Webster does not the last couple years or several

112like five years ago they still had committ. So I'm just putting it out there. And I guess I also look at it as an admin point standpoint. they would have to do the same thing and be here for that amount of time or two times a month as well instead of instead of several times a month. Multiple times a month, but for shorter amount of time because a lot of your committee meetings are start a little earlier. We only go to Can I ask one more question? Is there a stipen associated? Like would there's district be saving money if they went to school as a whole? They would technically. Yes. Uh it's it's nominal dollars, but we are all paid per meeting. So those of us that attend three meetings a month, we're now only

113going to be attending two meetings a month. You only get paid when you're on the committee. On the committee, though, like if I go to budget, I don't get paid as a parent. So really, you're not saving anything. Well, I wouldn't go to three meetings a month anymore. Well, okay. Because Right. Because you're So, some of us are on are on two committees. Most of us are on two committees and then the regular meeting. How do you guys feel? I've never done a committee and I wouldn't I don't know if if the if everyone would have to come to the committee. you guys, you know, this portion of the admin, you know, if whoever is normally there seems like the reason go to at least one committee meeting a month, we'll have something on one

114of the agendas, but we often don't have to go to all of them. Yeah, I see pros and cons of it, right? I just the way that the meet like the last two months my schedule like I it just makes me be like, "No, Katie, I can't." But then like late, you know, some months it's not going to be an issue. Some months it's definitely going to be an issue. Well, we have a lot coming up on policy committee, so I know like that one's going to be taking longer coming up. Mhm. So I would think if everybody had the same information at the same time in that type of meeting that this board meeting would go also faster because I know just coming on I have a whole lot of questions about a whole

115lot of committees and I never get to go to policy and those are the ones that often need the most conversation and uh reading over um and then we're we're explaining it all again at these meetings and we wouldn't vote or anything as a committee as a whole those meetings. So we would get the information, be able to discuss and then Yep. And then two weeks later or whatever time frame later then all the votes come. So you get that time frame to take the information in and then think it over or you have your research committee. They probably do it now. Each committee discusses everything kind of beats it all out and then to the rest of you at the board meeting and then you ask questions back to the committee and then do

116an overall vote. So, we won't have committees. No, it just be two meetings a month basically for the whole board. Did you make it a motion, Katie? I haven't made a motion yet. We're just doing discussion. I can make the motion to go to a committee whole and we can still discuss after that, too. I'll make a motion that we move to a committee as a whole for a board. I'll second it. We have a motion by Katie, seconded by Paulie. All those in favor or any further discussion? I opposed. Nay. Nay. Board of three. I guess we pass. I think there's going to be a discussion of like when we actually factor it in because I don't I think that'll be on the meeting calendar part coming up next. Yeah. After the technology server

117room air conditioner. So we did take this to um buildings and grounds and u Jesse felt like it was a an absolute need at this point in time. So we were going to go ahead and do it. And we had also talked about potentially taking it out of some of that referendum funding if that allowed as an infrastructure project which was in the resolution language. You know, I think uh when this had come up, I also wanted Kevin to look into what the current budget was for um the technology department to find out uh if some of that if it could potentially come out of there as well because um if we have it budgeted and we're not necessarily utilizing it, we could we could potentially take it up because I don't know if Jesse

118had any other server upgrades or other projects that she was planning for. She was had it spent, but it has to be. But I think I think we decided on the referendum, didn't we? It's it's on its way, but those referendum dollars also aren't in the bank yet, right? Yeah. Wasn't there some other option you were talking about? Uh, no. We can look at the the technology budget and potentially um we just have to negotiate with her and I think she's willing Yeah. So, I mean, we have to I think it's important and have we been monitoring the temperature in there with the fan in there? 85 degrees was the limit that she had said. We don't want We don't want the room getting over thermostat, but we don't know if we have a thermometer

119in there. Yeah. I don't with the recent temperatures, I don't think it's been significant. So, at least we're not going to break anything now while the equipment's getting ordered in. Do we have a projection on when it could be here? Cuz it was ordered like a week or two ago. It was just a Yeah, it was like four week within four weeks. Once it's ordered. Yeah. All right. We don't need to do any Are we making We don't need to Yeah. I just wanted the board to make sure that you knew. Mhm. I don't have authority over $5,000, but it was in two chunks as well. Yeah, I I would prefer the board just getting the Okay. There's equipment that's worth so much in there. Yeah, certainly makes sense to maintain what we have. So,

120so I'll make the motion that we go ahead and purchase the air conditioner and we're going to utilize the additional dollars that we had for capital improvements with the referendum. I'll second that. I heard Eric first. I Eric, go ahead. So, we'll go Katie, seconded by Eric. All those in favor say I. I. I. Opposed? Any abstensions? Moving on. Meeting calendars. So, if we're doing the committee as a whole, I guess the big question is Laura, how soon can you have stuff done? Kevin wanted to meet early. What was that for the contract? We need a budget meeting before um so March May 15th is the is the contract day that we have to get involved. So we need a meeting I would say can we add on to the um board training meeting date?

121Well that's the fifth or does it need to be before the fifth? No, not to do not to Could we add a special meeting in just to handle that contract piece so that is done on the same night? On the same night as the board training when that's Monday. And then figure out the date for the meeting as a whole. Is the Do you need it sooner than the 5th? Um, no. No. Um, that week. Mhm. Would probably be best between the 5th and 9th. Mhm. We don't have so the board training is from 4 to 6. So we'll we'll all be here. Most of us will be here. We would have a quorum to make any contract pieces, right? Yeah. I mean, if that's what you guys feel like because you said you need

122it by the 15th, right? Yeah. And it would be a special meeting. Yes. Yes. So you want to do the meeting 46 and then do the contract special contract meeting only. Yeah. I know what you were like 8 hours. What do you at? Never set a time. I No, I'm just saying the board training is from 4 to 6. Is there a way to do it before? I mean, how much time do you think we need to discuss contracts? It's going to be a debate time. So, it's going to take some time. Potentially a different day that week then if if it needed to be a special We just have to We can't rush this. I don't think is this employee contract staffing contracts or something else? I'm sorry. I can't hear you guys. I'm

123assuming it's contract. Thank you. Well, I didn't know if it was about the financial I I think we might want to just laid a special meeting specifically for that uh sometime of the week of like the 12th somewhere in there. But he needs it done by the 15th. I know. But so like the 12th, 13th or I have to do them all. What day is the seventh? Is that Wednesday? I could do any day next week except Thursday or Friday. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I'm fine. Yeah. So, would the seventh work? Seventh work for me. Y I cannot. But you would have a What about I can just Tuesday. Does Tuesday work for anyone? I don't know what there's track, there's baseball, there's softball. All right. So Wednesday, so Monday at 6 is out. We next

124that one if people don't want to stay that long. Monday at 5 there's a concert I think and concert at Monday the 5th. There's a concert. It's at 7. You guys are done at 5:30. I got Do you want to consider reaching the training date? Yes, please. I'm not against it. I don't know if how we seem to have some conflicts and because if we could change that to the special meeting for the contracts and do it early if we could. Um I think we'd be better off with that. There's baseball. I don't know. I can never do You want to give me a couple dates for the um sport training date? I just I didn't want to go too long out for members. Let me go. Let me go. I was just told that

125in our in the handbook for certified. I don't know after we fall in. We're using the 15th as a deadline. Okay. I just want to make sure. Time baseball at first, but that doesn't really work good for the pop concert either that they have pop concert on track and baseball as well. No makeup that was on the worst place. All right. What did we decide? We haven't community the whole you'll only have one date to change and not spend 15 minutes. But that's what we're trying to figure out too like trying to pick a date because we're going to be here. We have so much going on with all of us having kids or multiple kids or sports and graduation and work. It's a terrible month. That's I mean no matter like I said before,

126it'd be great if we can hold off on the schoolboard training so we can all actually be here. And I don't know why we can't wait till next month. I don't understand why it needs to be next week. I mean, someone could explain that to me, that'd be fantastic. It's up to you guys decide if Corey and Paulie are good off till next month. I already went to one, so I'm good. Okay. Well, we'll just shoot for June then. And so the fifth is still going to be a problem for you though, Jamie, for this special. Well, depends on what time we're doing it, right? Yeah. Kelly's out cuz she's got I mean, it'll rain that day. You're okay. I mean, it depends on what if we do it early. The earlier the better, I

127think. Well, the fifth. I don't know what's going on for work. Well, 5th at 4:00 there's a varsity invitational. Yeah, I don't have a high school in chat. I think if we try to avoid all events that the school is hosting, we're always going to have a problem. There's just going to have to be some bend where sometimes you can't come to the school board event and that's just how it is or you can't go to the event that's happening at the school. Have you guys ever had them during the day? There's been meetings during the day. Yes. But some of us work. Yeah. Also, they have to be in um Well, we just need a form for the We just need Right. We need a quorum at any at a special meeting or at

128the meeting of the whole. Yeah, we haven't talked about when we're having a meeting at the whole, right? Well, well, we wouldn't need a quorum at the meeting either. Let's see. What about That doesn't work for some people for two. But we would still have a quorum without two. What about Wednesday the 7th? I will not be there, but you would still have a quorum. I could do the seventh. I can do the seventh. I can do the seventh. I can do the seven. Okay. So, what time? earlier the better. Can we start 2:30? Can we start at 3:30? Does that work for you guys? Does that work for you? I can make it work. How long do you think that's going to be? I don't know. 2 hours. Could be. It depends on I

129have to rearrange my schedule. I have to see if I have somebody watch Jayla. My kids have sports and we have the tribal bank list that I've already committed to. So, but if we start at 3:30, that gives you at least two hours for if I have to. And if you can't make it, there would still be a quorum. That's what I'm wondering. But like I think you could make it the fifth, too. This meeting is for the staff contract. Yeah, I can make it both. So, so either the fifth or the seventh. It sounds like we could have two people missing. Yeah. Two. Can you do Does the fifth work for you, Paul? Oh, either one. Well, we're not doing the training. I would rather do the fifth myself. Just 3:30. Yeah, I don't

130I can maybe make it work. I don't Yeah, let's I'm good with 3:30 on the Give it 30 seconds. Yes. Okay. Not that 5th at 3:30. 5th at 3:30. Special meeting. I'll put it in here in case there's another rain day at 3:30. Yeah. Oh, nothing. Oh, maybe. There you go. We didn't know for that. Um, well, yes, when I have the information, I'll get it to you. There's some decisions you just have to be made. We can't talk about it open. Okay. And I don't have it on the agenda tonight. It's based on the uh forecast model. You'll put a packet together though because it'll have an agenda for them. Have that information. Okay. So, I still have information. Okay. Now, back to Now, committee of the whole meeting. What were you saying, Laura?

131When are you going to have stuff done? Whatever. Denise to help you. She doesn't have much going on. I was going to say our regular board meeting is probably going to have to be changed because the 26th is Memorial Day. [Music] I figured that's what you were thought to it. Uh well, okay. Let's stand. They'll let me get the whole meeting first. Um, do you want Tell me what days work for you, right? Do we want to do that the second Monday or do we want to do it the second Wednesday or second Wednesday? Well, they don't work for Katie, unfortunately. Um, Mondays I have baseball, so I wouldn't be able to be here on Mondays. Katie, you work every Wednesday? What about Thursday the 15th? How bloody does that birthday softball? Since I'm your

132Q representative, I have to go to the Q meeting today and I'm the wall of honor represent the first next Thursday obligation. Well, I don't think you don't need a form for the meeting of the hole. It's just opportunity to get the information out and it it might take a few months to even it out. What else is going on? over, right? So, the 12th doesn't help him after that. It looks like baseball's cancelled. Am I reading that right? It was resed. It was It was cancelceled, but now it's rescheduled to New Auburn. So, there's track on the 12th, there's baseball, and there's softball. What's wrong with the 22nd? Is that too late? for the meeting of for the for the actual board the regular board meeting. No, meeting as a whole. It would it

133just depends on probably when we push the regular board meeting too, which we're probably going to have to push that to the 29th because the 22nd or 28th, right, Jamie, you have Greg? Go past what? Yeah, I don't think we can do the regular meeting past the end of the month. The 20 the Thursday would still be part of you can't do the 29th 22nd 28th 29th for the regular meeting. We're just still talking about meeting a whole Oh, we're talking about the meeting hall. Yeah, we were just projecting out at the same time. Okay. The 22nd. There's nothing on the calendar. Do we need to have the regular meeting that day? What are you talking about, Lisa and Kevin? Can we have the regular meeting on the 29th? Yes. Or the 28th? No, they

134were looking at their camera. There's something before the end of the month. Fine. We were just for whatever reason it was chose on Mondays by whoever. I don't know what I know. Well, do we want to come in on Memorial Day? No, it wasn't saying. So, I I'm proposing we have the committee as a whole meeting on the 22nd. Okay. Works. What day do we hopefully Thursday? Hopefully in the future maybe we can get it just on a regular. And what time are we going to start that? Does 400 p.m. work? Sure. Yep. 4 p.m. Y Middle school softball gets transported back here, correct? From Webster. by them. Okay. But I don't have to go to Webster to pick them up. They come back. Yeah. They have the They sell the box. It's their responsibility

135to get them back here. Our responsib Okay. And the 29th for the monthly meeting, the regular school board meeting. The only thing showing on the calendar right now is a 4K graduation and that's early afternoon. I don't think I can. Okay. What day of the week is that one? Hold on. Might not. That doesn't work. 29th senior graduates that Saturday after. How about the Tuesday? Yeah, because we have people leaving. Um we're having our all staff meeting for the retirees because there's events the following day. 29th doesn't work. 29th, but you can 29th does not work. 28th 28th is ALC. What time you have ALC graduation? 6 to Yeah, but but if we have it early and 28th is the actual retirement party at Sasha. Okay. Well, it'd have to be early and that' probably

136be too much to try to get that out that same. So, the 20 27th we doing the 27th. You're out. You got baseball. I don't Is that Oh, the 22nd is first round of I'm probably baseball, too, but I don't know yet. Just miss it. Yeah, I don't have to go to all my kids stuff. I am cuz mine's a senior, but I mean the fine. I miss the 22nd. You missed the 22 cuz the 22nd is round of softball. Friday. They have Dolphins last day. Oh, they do. I mean, that's fine. I'll just have to pick and choose. As long as we have a quorum, which sounds like those three is good. I think it's most just those of us who have seniors meeting. So, let's go with Tuesday the 27th then for their

137regular board meeting. Does that work for you, Paul? Yep. What time? Regular five. Five. Does that work for everyone else? Oh Most the hardest part of every meeting. Welcome Corey. I'm Paul. All right. All right. With that all settled, moving on to the approval of the bills. Make a motion to approve the bills for the cycle of secondch. We got a motion by Katie, seconded by Eric. All those in favor say I. Opposed? Any abstaining? Okay. I'm and brains like way past my bedtime. We'll just do what we can. I can't read that. No bathroom to do that. Yarm virtual appointment. I don't stay up this late. No, I took some caffeine in though, anticipating the longness of how this was going to be. It's okay. I just was going to be up for work

138in four hours. I'm just going to get a little head start while we're on intermission cuz we all know each other, right? best we can do for public comment. I was looking for there's a tabletop podium they used to have in here and I couldn't find it. That worked. So, at least they're on camera. So, I think that'll be helpful for the public viewing. Yeah, I actually kind of like this as opposed to podium. It's got more of a informal vibe, you know, progressive. I just need to move the foot peg down like 2 in. I couldn't get my foot up and stop. Put a stool underneath so you can stand on a stool to bump up. Well, I built that table and let me tell you, we ain't changing anything. Did it give you

139a half? I hope the chair's under warranty. There's so many of them. This is not a new purchase. This brand when you get in such a you never know until you classes have been fixing them on a regular though, so we're keeping them. Fantastic. Yes, his email was difficult to find in the email system. It's only under Mr. B and it took me about 19 tries to find it to email him for wall of teacher. Yeah, it's not under his full spelling of his last name. Did you just go to staff? Like I just started typing in. But I mean, if you just go to staff on the school website, it doesn't his his email's not Well, I was in the in the email and I just type in the names as I'm emailing people

140out. So, everyone was there. And it's you have to type in Mr. B instead of Jed. I'm sure Jen did not pop it up because it's Mr. Yeah, everything's it's not I know you said we have a contract that the contract's there. The dates are there. He's reaching out equipment ordering. Oh, he was going to order it. No, he was going to make sure they sort it instead of us stored it. There's no additional price for it and then they would be in charge of unloading it and not us. So if something happened everything blocked. Yes. All right. So at this time I'm looking for a motion to convene in the close session under Wisconsin state statute 19.851 851 CEFG to consider employment, promotion, compensation or performance evaluation data of any public employee over which

141the governmental body has jurisdiction or exercises responsibility, considerations of financial, medical, social, or personal information and to confer with legal counsel who is rendering oral or written advice. I make that motion. I'll second it. All right. Camera's off. Not yet because I have to take a picture. Yes. Kelly. Yes.

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