Committee of the Whole Meeting 02.02.26

001ready. >> Okay, let's call the meeting to order at 6 o'clock and we'll head into roll calls. Scott >> here. >> Carolyn >> here. >> I'm here. Brad and Britney are unable to make this evening. Uh, and I get a motion to approve this evening's agenda. >> All motion. >> Second. Uh, all in favor? >> Any opposed? Motion carries. Okay. First item is uh student staff recognition. Looks like you got a couple things. >> Yeah. Um, so for this evening, I would like to go ahead and recognize Fallon Hoy. Um, she is our traditional first and second grade teacher. And I'm just going to read it so I don't miss anything. Uh, Fallon has a way of connecting with students and families, building positive and meaningful relationships with each new class. She takes the time

002to make sure every single student gets what they need to succeed and her kindness is felt by everyone who enters her room, creating a space where students feel welcomed. She is a proactive member of the team that is solutionoriented and focused on student success. We are so fortunate to have her be a part of the school district of someone's princess. >> Thank you. Do we want to do Lisa's as well? >> Okay. >> Um, so for Lisa, Lisa's role is is to try and fill uh many staff shortages often being called upon herself um to cover areas all over the building. In addition to coming office, she is the only one there to answer the doors, help students, track students down, make copies, and the now bags prepared as well as juggling other things simultaneously.

003Um, she's the right right in the middle of everything, managing many interruptions while she's trying to complete records and other tasks uh or reports rather. She feels early morning calls uh from staff requesting a substitute. Um she does her duties without complaint while managing or remain calm and flexible uh doing what she can to assist others. So okay appreciate her. Thank you Lisa. Next item is 30 60 90day planning. Anything you want to highlight on there? So u I think that the the big thing coming in February here is we we do have parent teacher conferences and there are a number of things that are uh going on in conjunction with that. Uh I know on the 17th having a meet and greet with board candidates uh during uh parent teacher conferences uh at 5

004and then um on the Thursday there's the concept the building concept design uh meeting that will be taking place at 5 as well. Um so few different things going on there and then looking at um that first weekend but that's going to be our Dr. Seuss week as well as our family math and reading uh event on that Friday. So looking forward to that as well. And anything you want to highlight at all? >> Okay. >> Next item, 4K programming. >> Yeah. So, just have some information on the agenda as well. Um, so we have Taylor Anderson and Anna Warren here as well, um, representing our 4K classrooms and So just kind of having the discussion or start having the conversation of our 4K programming um and I mean they'll speak a little bit to

005more in depth um the reasoning but just for the what is developmentally appropriate for our students that age and how we currently have it um being provided within our district. >> Are we talking immediate or future next year? >> Looking into the next school year. >> Okay. Um, so Taylor and Anna did put together some options and those are listed in the agenda and if there are any particular questions. So again, this is just kind of a conversation to start and where could this potentially lead into. >> Okay, if one or both of you want to come on up and grab the hot seat and tell us what's going on and So, we have a couple different options here that we've been discussing in our kindergarten team meetings um with Taylor's classroom especially. Um but

006the question when we made up our form here of pros and cons and all that, we didn't think about if the monosur was going to change. So, this is all geared towards the traditional classroom. But if it's monosur, then we have things to add. >> Has the monastery teachers weighed in on changing anything? >> Right now, if we could five days a week is fine. Four days a week has worked for us in the past. But any less than that with the way the Monasur curriculum builds on top of each other, if I had been there less, I it wouldn't be a Monasur. I would just have a kindergarten classroom with monarch materials in it. >> So that's kind of that's my concern if some of these options are chosen over others. >> So right

007now Taylor's classroom is combined. >> Okay. >> And traditional is not really built for that. >> All right. >> Yeah. Maybe if you could just tell us what the problem is in your view. >> Um situation. >> If we look at foury olds compared to six year olds, there's a very big developmentally different in their age um >> and their needs and their social emotional and their standards really. Um 4K is still considered early childhood where kindergarten is not. So it's technically a 4K program would have an early childhood teacher where kindergarten is a elementary teacher and right now we have them combined and it's just it's kind of taking a lot away from kindergarten. Um because 4K is more learning how to be in school, learning how to be a child in a setting

008like this and how to interact with other kids. learning how to share. It's more social emotional and behavioral based and just kind of learning how to be in this environment. Kindergarten is a lot more academic, a lot more structured and a lot more formal. Um, where 4K should be focused more on play based just kind of beginning until school. >> Kindergarten is more >> I mean they kindergarteners should play but it's also a lot more academic. There's a >> Yeah. And following the specific curriculum that's set up by the district, it's not appropriate for the foury olds. >> How many do you have of each? >> Okay. >> And how long have they been combined? >> Since Mon started, there's a really low group that year. 2019 to the 2020 school year. There was only

009I think that kindergarten year five kids. So they combined them. It was supposed to be temporary from what I understand. It just never got taken. >> Okay. So presumably even if you had the it's not just the numbers it's the >> it's the division of >> well and it's like my curriculum was built I mean it's built to have start at three and everything we do builds where in I've taught traditional 4K and traditional kindergarten and I couldn't imagine combining them to have to make sure that my kindergarteners are reading by the end of the school year and doing all their academic standards that we have to check off. And then it also, you know, teaching those four carers where it's not appropriate for them to be sitting down and working on their phonics in

010a small group. They need to be playing with the little phonics people and sorry and all that. >> You you have experience of those. >> And so I mean, yeah, I've taught those two and I've taught and I taugh I know how they work. What what age do they start at children's house? >> Right now it's 4K, but our program is designed for it. >> Okay. >> Maria Monasuri had designed our primary or well it's the primary is designed to start at three years old. >> So we our math curriculum does not require them at all at three and then they start with the sensorial and all that. It's literally built to start >> and every material in my room also goes up. to like eat. So, what you find in my room, you'll find

011in Beth's room. It's just used differently. >> So, do you have four year olds now? >> I do. >> And up to how what age to children's house? >> Uh, six. >> Six. >> Okay. >> But it's my classroom's meant. It's >> It's designed to do that. It supports those. >> It supports that. I mean, they spend my little spend a lot of time in practical life. You guys have If you have what >> silver they I mean they start they polish silver they learn how to fold laundry. I mean we have a lot of practical life stuff and then they have sensoral which is the sense based and it does mostly geometry and hits all those standards but it was designed. >> Okay. >> Where in Taylor she has her wonders curriculum. Is that

012what and the math program. >> And with having both of them, I'm not able to teach the curriculum typically. It's just kind of trying to pick pieces that are the most important and hoping that they're grasping everything. necessarily >> if it was ELA and math like if they weren't in if they had their own teacher for ELA and math with the rest of the day combined maybe but I mean the 4K still needs so much social emotional piece that they're kind of lacking right now because do I focus more on kindergarten getting those academics to be ready for first grade or do I focus more on my tears being able to share it's it's really trying to which one's going to >> it is it is a big jump there I I have a kid

013who turned four like last week of August and I have three kids that turned six the first month of school. So those are very different kids >> and emotions and behaviors. >> This is a difficult challenge as far as you know what what do we have as far as numbers coming in? How do we And then just yeah talking about the curriculum let's let's go over a few different things your curriculum and your requirements by DPI are much different back 4K if we had a 3K be the same but DPI says that we only get 60% of funding for each of those four that's on the fiscal side and you take a look at all the requirements when it comes into family engagement and activities where involved in the family. That's not a requirement anywhere

014else. And then yes, the the learning piece you're talking is very much on going from parallel play to you know that that that combined and uh you know getting along with negotiating skills and whatnot and identifying letters versus getting letter sounds and starting to letter sounds and whatnot, you know. So it is it's a big jump there but how do we do that spacewise financially and whatnot? So that's that's what makes it a big conundrum. Right. So >> so what do you see as the best outcome? What if you you know your wish list what would you like to have right at the top? I assume separate or something >> lately it would be separate. Um >> and the 4K program I think full time, but there's also options for part time. There's because of

015the outreach, like it used to be four days a week and then Fridays were the parent outreach days to get those hours. It's what 87 hours. >> It's 87 and 87. >> But yeah, I mean I used to invite parents when I was in that position. I invite parents in and it would be a focus on something for early childhood whether it be fine motor or importance of rhying and that's something we work on and then the kids get to play and hang out after we did our activity as well. It allowed the community the parents to get together >> and meet each other >> during usually it was on Fridays from 1 to 3. And then since there was and then Friday mornings was more my prep time during school day Monday through Thursday

016I had less. So that there's I I think a 4K program is wise and I think I understand why it was done the way it was done in the fact that what what other opportunities or or daycare options we have available. I mean we have a daycare but I mean we don't have four year olds there and they're full you know. So how do you deal with that? Plus the fact that if we're not offering a 4K program, where are those kids going? Probably not going to stay here. And that's that was the concern. >> Stay here to go on. >> Yeah. Okay. So, and I mean my experiences elsewhere was the same thing. If if they got started and 4K, you had a very good chance of keeping those kids later on versus if

017they didn't. And that's why when I started I we were half time 4K and then they went to fulltime four two days two full days a week and our enrollment doubled that year >> because you went full time >> because we went two full days because we had full days rather than half. >> Okay. >> And then we went to four full days 2018 2019. >> How often do you have 4K kids now? >> Five days a week. days a week. >> All day. >> Okay. >> Which is also very hard for some carers. >> Like those are >> we have some forkers who are here from 7 to 5. >> That's a lot. >> Yeah, >> that is very long days for >> Well, as a veteran of half day kindergarten, that was enough

018for me. But >> Okay. Um and then and so then what other than just completely separating out where you would just do do just kindergarten and someone else would do 4K that you have some other options here as well. >> Um I'm recommending one option if we can't separate it and it would just be that 4K is only two days a week. Um so that way kindergarten would get three solid days of actual kindergarten academic and then 4K could come in for those And it would be more of a social emotional like purposeful play basic writing skills things that both groups kind of need. But to have those three solid days for kindergarten I think would be a lot better than what we have right now. >> And you've been on your own also for

019the majority of the year until >> I mean yes having help but Still not. It's still different. It's still >> What help do you have now? >> Yeah. So, she's in there for our main academic time, which is nice, but it's still she's kind of guiding one group and I'm trying to balance both. >> Yeah. So, she's there a half day, five days a week. Okay. Does this issue get any easier with the older kids? >> Just with our curriculum, it wouldn't be >> but the those 4Ks that you have, they're not they're not anyway. So yeah, >> but it's just if we have to if schools need to do the same thing, both impact that impact on us. don't need to do if they don't need we can >> Okay. >> So, um another

020thought is if if space is an issue for now, you probably could if you did a halftime early childhood educator who also could do in the mornings and then do a special a half time in split. So, their halftime early childhood halftime special ed so because that I know has been a position in the past, wasn't it? That was my first year. Yeah. So, >> and that's that's a was traditionally part-time position. >> It was a split. So, the FTE was split. So, half time was early childhood 4K, half time was early childhood special ed. So, special ed from the 3 to 8. >> Okay. >> And you have them all in one room now. Okay. >> Good for you. She does after school and after school. >> Oh my god. >> I don't know.

021>> Okay. Uh I mean it certainly gives us something that we've, you know, got to think about and address. Um but you're okay for this year. I mean >> we >> you can make it happening through. >> Okay. Right. Anybody else have any other questions, concerns? Okay. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. Did you bring >> Next item, athletic conference change consideration. >> Yeah. So that uh the three documents there were shared um with us from Shell Lake School District. Um Pete, do you know how long they've been in discussion about >> uh this because I don't >> Yeah. So, this was a preliminary call late in December. Yeah. Wasn't wasn't really too hip on the whole idea right at that point. Then he contacted me again like, "Okay, fine. give them a

022straight up answer as far as if we're going to do this or not. So anyway, >> um and so what I've been able to gather from the proposal is that the Lakeland is looking to go um still be one conference but to kind of split up into three groups where they will have a large division um with the highest enrollment schools in that one and then take the smaller ones that are left and split up into the east and west and They're I think part of this is because they've had some schools leave the conference and they're looking to fill out and and kind of get back to the numbers that they like to see. Um they used to have um three divisions for volleyball and basketball east and the central. I think they've paired

023that down now to two divisions. And so I think they want to get back to three divisions which means that they have to get a couple of extra schools to hop on board. And we were Ed and so was Gilman. Um and I know Lady Smith we was maybe a possibility in there as well maybe coming out of the heart of the north and being one of the large schools. So um what I can gather from this proposal we would um be in the west Lakeland um with schools like Birwood Frederick Luck Siren and New um I know that there's depending on if Gilman comes there might be some play because it would leave an uneven number of count of schools in each of those east west divisions. So there might be a team one

024of them is going to have an odd number to them. So you might have um some movement with one of those schools between east or west but we would be in the west based on our our geography. Um the proposal would be to have a certain for basketball um to have a certain number you play a round robin within your um division within your east west and then there would be some crossovers with some of the large schools. Um volleyball um I haven't gotten a direct answer on that but it would look like you'd play each team once and then cross over with some of the large. Um I asked about um track and cross country. I put that in the other document that's there. Um, in our conference right now, we have four conference

025track meets and three conference cross country meets. Um, they only have one and that's one championship at the end of each of the seasons. Um, so it would mean that >> are they doing invitationals? >> Yeah. So then all of the schools, they simply fill out the rest of their schedule with invitationals that they host or they go to other invites just like we would do for some of our invites. You know, I I think the the positive would be is we already go to Northwestern for cross country. We already go to Rice Lake for cross country. There's enough that are out there that and especially then hopping in the schools to ourselves, I I think we would be able to fill out our cross country schedule without much concern. Um the track part, everyone

026that has a track just decides when they're going to have their track meet. Actually, I've used um the Lakeland already in the last couple years for track because they put out a list of here's the schools, here's who's hosting, here's how many slots there are, and then if there's open slots, I usually just contact those schools and say, "Hey, would you mind having us come down and participate?" We've been to Cornell for track meets. you've been to Shell Lake for track meets. So, um, >> how many does Northern Lights usually hold? >> So, in track, they they do one indoor meet over at Ashland. Um, Hurley hosts a meet. Drummond host a meet because those are the only two schools that have tracks in the northern lights. And then our conference meet is um we've

027been hosting at Ashlin for the last couple years to have it at a nice >> indoor >> out for that's the that's the conference championship or out >> outdoor. >> Yeah, we just there is no real official indoor season. Um but with more facilities that have indoor tracks with St. has an indoor tracks. Um Ashlin has the fieldhouse. There's enough places now that with track starting literally in a month >> that's more ad hoc. >> Yeah, it's but we do in Ashen there is a conference indoor track meet that um is put on by our conference. Only our conference schools are there and so there is technically a conference champion for an indoor but that's what it is. So, >> so the if if this newly constituted Lakeland West there's actually would be less schools

028than are in Northern Lights. >> There would be um and so that's where you would play they would require some crossovers with the large schools because the large schools have the fewest number of teams in it. What is it? Six maybe. I found it. Five, six, somewhere. somewhere in there. >> So, they're going to have to, you know, they're only going to get four teams that they're going to play twice out of that group and they're going to have to fill out the rest of their schedule with some teams from the east and some teams from the west. And in that proposal, it states like if you're going to be on a downward swing, then maybe you don't play a lot of larger schools, you know, and and so it does give some flexibility for

029that. Um, so that it's not going to be, well, you got to go up against. >> Yeah. They're three times the size of us. >> And having some flexibility for that. >> And and as I put in that that kind of my thoughts on it, you know, right now we're very much in the middle of the enrollments in our conference. Um, we've got some very low enrollment schools that we play. Um, and we've got some much higher enrollment schools. If we were to be in that Lakeland West, there'd be more schools that we would play more often that are similar in enrollments to where we are. We'd still get have to play some of the larger schools, but you know, some teams will be ready for that and others, you know, it sounds like we'll

030have the flexibility kind of talk about what that looks like. >> So, Cara, >> well, I'm reading a little bit more of his pros and cons. Um, some of this is a little new to me and a little bit more, you know, more of a con in my eyes for volleyball with um like the the common of the middle school coaches having to be different. Um because now this middle school season would middle school volleyball would change to the fall and basketball changes to the winter. Is that what it is? So they're they're at the same time. >> Um that's really hard to swallow, you know, on that when you're not able to coach, you know, if you >> Oh, because you have to do high school. >> Yeah. Like I would have to Am

031I going to do high school or would I do middle school? You know, I would have to pick which one. Would I feed her program or, you know, which one? That's a little hard to um, you know, that's been really nice to be able to do both of them, you know, especially when you're the high school coach to be able to be there, you know, and not specifically coach it, but at least be able to be there. Well, this you wouldn't even be able to be there, you know, for that middle school season, and that's your theater program for these high school ones. Um, you know, I was concerned first with the number of like in that large, you know, when you look at their division, you know, three, there's a three in there and

032there's some fours where ours is five. And just the two fours of Curly and Washurn, you know, when you look at those enrollments, are there teams you can play that, you know, in yours for us, same enrollment, yes, but that's a lot less teams than what we're doing in Northern Light Conference. Um to me the competition Northern Light for volleyball has been up on the you know on the uphill for years you know for volleyball I don't see a it's not like yeah let's switch it you know for competition because it is competitive you know in it and you know moving over to this you know the possibility you know how do we get more games in here when there's so many less teams in it I know you've got that crossover but they're also

033looking to create it too and you know they fill up their schedules before. Yes, I know we can play Northern Lights, you know, so it's a lot of whatifs, you know, at some point, but >> um >> but you're you're okay. You're happy with the competitiveness. >> 100% happy just in the world of volleyball because the sport has become so much more aware. >> Yeah. >> In this town and everywhere, you know, you see now there's pro volleyball, you know, things in the competition level has been there, you know, increasing. >> Yeah. >> For it. But by It's not neither, you know, like I no, I don't want to do this, you know. Yes, these schools are closer um and mileage wise, you know, than northern lights and stuff. And you know, a question I

034did ask and I know, you know, Mr. Albert doesn't have that answer is, you know, what does that look like for our regional? Because for us, for Solen, we're our regional are these teams that the is. So it's like, >> well, so our region wouldn't >> for volleyball anyways, like we're put in the the regional that has there's two of us, Northern Light, and then everybody else is Lakeland. >> So, you know, our region, would it look exactly like our conference, you know, if we switched over to this or would they take that in consideration? WI, which I know, right? Like take that into consideration and maybe try to you know, and I know that changes, >> you know, every three years or four years, however it is, but >> you know, that was a

035question of mine. You know, it's like or >> yes, you see him. It's nice know you see him and then you see him again, but that's not the point of, you know, playoffs. But >> I'm not either way, like, you know, die hard either way. If I if I had to make one decision on it, I would say, well, for competition wise, no. I don't see a change as to why, >> right? We would >> because I mean there there's imbalance some years. >> I mean two three years ago the boys team was killing everybody >> and now they're back in the middle of the pack. >> Now the girls are killing everybody. But >> I could see the whole >> three four years ago they weren't. the coaching thing really >> where we'd have

036to find a basically four coaches a huge >> and that's why that's holded on for me because >> how long did you go without an assistant coach last year like halfway through the season. >> Well then the Yeah. Yeah. I was about that >> and it's just hard no matter what sport you know like he has. Well, it's hard to find coaches for any of the sports nowadays even teaching you know. So, does it make a difference with gym time, too? Gym availability? >> Um, I don't think it will I don't think that'll be too much effective because you're essentially just moving >> the middle school law that I have going right now would be in the fall and we have two gyms and then middle school girls basketball in the fall and be going

037on right now. >> And that one might be a little bit harder because >> uh when we've got boys and girls basketball not playing then I know and I know deals with that as well like Where do you put a practice >> for a school sponsored sport when both gyms are are full? We fight that all the time >> and that's it. And and I know the middle school basketball it it starts earlier but it's there's still an overlap and we still get into a gym issue >> where we put everyone. So >> So when is like looking for a response? >> Uh after a regular meeting. >> Okay. Can it be split >> as far as set one sports in one direction to one or the other? >> I won't say it can be

038done because obviously baseball and softball we play in a different >> we play in different conferences. Um I think it would be quite odd if say it was volleyball if we said we're going to stay in the northern lights for volleyball but everything else we're leaving. I Because what what it comes down to is that we have to there's two tracks that this can go. There's a fast track that basically if you get everyone every school in both conferences to agree then you can make this change quick and if that doesn't happen then WIA has to be able to approve it. And I don't know if WIA would go along with one sport day here and everyone else. >> Yeah. the the the reason why a co-op goes that late then is because Northwood has

039that historical context of being in so >> and we couldn't play both. I mean, so when the co-op happened, we had to we had to pick like where where are we going to go? And for a number of reasons, we said going south was going to be better. And there has it that decision was, you know, we had to think that through. And it wasn't a perfect decision because there's some people that wanted to stay and >> Yeah. I mean, because I just look at the numbers of Solen kids on baseball versus Northwood and why are we playing in their conference, right? But I'm just a lame man. >> Well, and and some of that too was >> I mean, could we have split them? You could have, but you know, part of the reason

040why we baseball, softball, they travel together. They play the same team at the same uh on the same night. So then if you're in two separate conferences, you're never going to, you know, you're never going to have that. >> Well, the co-op is though. I mean, we're we're in Northern Lights except for co-op, right? I guess my thinking is why why wouldn't if Northwood wanted to co-op then fine, you'll be in the Northern Lights Conference for baseball and possibly softball. You know, softball is a little more evenly split. >> Yeah. >> But baseball seems like it's very skewed uh toward more Solen kids. Yet we're >> Yeah, it's Northwoods Conference. >> Yeah, it's it's been since we've had it. I think every there's been more soul in kids, but sometimes it's been heavy and sometimes

041it's been a little bit more on the even side. >> And this year, I mean, we're going to have a ton of freshmen and I think it's going to be out of that class, I think it's going to be fairly even with what freshmen are going to come out from from each district. So, >> how are numbers like trending up from like are we going to be able to keep holding for baseball >> or for like basketball, volleyball? I think the numbers are there for girls, boys. Boys maybe not as not as much, but I think it's getting there. The numbers are there. Just the girls might have them earlier, you know, than the boys are. >> Yeah. Right now, our strongest numbers at below high school are in our girls sports. There's just more

042girls that are participating right now. But, you know, that changes too because you know some we might have a lot now and then by the time high school comes they they don't play. And and that happens with boys, too. But I mean, it's just it's hard to say, well, we've got x amount of kids at middle school, so we'll have the x amount when they get to high school. There's too many things that change between those two ages. So, >> well, I I mean, we've got a couple more weeks to mul it over and think about it. So, if you have a strong recommendation one way or another, I think it'd be helpful to for the board to hear that and preferably like the day before our next board meeting. So I you know is

043there anything else you could address on that? >> Okay. All right. Uh anything else? You wouldn't have your athletic report today. So >> I guess the uh cost of what would have to change in the gym we have to do like talk >> Well, that's a whole different story. um >> signage >> it comes up, but um WIA hasn't approved that yet. So, um it would we would probably need a better scoreboard for that that high school gym. >> Um and then uh right now our scores table consists of a white bowling table that we just so >> Oh, so it's more of that gym. >> Yeah, I I I think anything that with that gym we're I mean we've done enough upgrades over the number of years that I think we're fine in that

044gym, it's really the fact that the high school gym is used very infrequently for contests. Um, but the way that the Lakeland works, um, sometimes they'll do this for volleyball where high school volleyball and middle school volleyball will be on the same night in the same place. So then we'd have middle school in one gym and high school in the other. And I know basketball almost always they double header. So, boys and girls, varsity, JB on the same at the same place. So, then we need to use the other gym way more than we do right now. And um we haven't done a lot in that gym over the last number of years. So, I think I think the you know, could we redo the floor? Yeah, possibly. Maybe some people have more opinions on

045that than others, but um I I think like the hoops and the most of the infrastructure I think is okay, but some new scoreboards, a scores table that our our staff could sit at would be just some a couple of things um that >> is something that >> Oh, the new The black holes are a little bit smaller diameter and then the holes that are in the ground are just it's not fit to that one and they're so much more lightweight than the red standards that were there before. So yeah, they do start to, you know, bend a little bit when it gets to and the only thing that could fix that is if the holes were fit to that, you know, to that exact size of the holes, but then it might be too

046small for the red ones, you know. >> Yeah. I mean, we'd have to look at probably just replacing all of the collars in there to match the poles and get another set of those carbon poles >> to match. >> They're nice. You literally know they're so light. >> That was some of the best money we spent was buying those those things. So, I don't have a dollar. I mean, I don't have a dollar amount, but I think if with it being used more often, that would be something that we would have to entertain. And like I said also with our streaming cameras, you know, like right now we've used NFHS because that's what pretty much everyone in our conference except for LCO uses, but in the Lakeland they hopped on a little bit later and

047so they're using H. Um, and I think having more schools on the same platform, especially when we play Lakeland schools, they're like, "Hey, can we can we watch the game?" Well, yeah, you got to, you know, pay the subscription fee to watch and you know, that probably doesn't sit very well. So, you know, the difference, as I said, with Huddle, as far as I know, is that um the district, the school takes on a lot more of the burden of the cost of that and it's free to the consumers, which is kind of the flipped model from what we have right now where, yeah, we spent the money back in 2000 to put the cameras in, but we don't spend any money right now on the broadcast of those things of each of the streams.

048And I know that there's been complaints about the quality of it and and I don't I'm not arguing that, but right now our district pays nothing to have >> and anyone that wants to watch has to pay the subscription fee to be able to do so which >> model everything else is that >> they don't want to do that come here and pay three bucks and watch it. >> But the problem with that though is as coaches for stat reasons but the core quality is there um it's really hard you know yes we can take it in game but that's also use as review and you know reduce stats and stuff. So is the quality terrible like where you can't know but you know there's just been a lot of issues I think with NFHS

049you know it you know it's always loading and it's you know sometimes even though it's scheduled it doesn't work you know what I mean when you do those things and just sometimes the quality is poor but >> yeah I mean I personally haven't had much trouble with it always seems like you know when you flip the game on it's on and >> and I will say going back I even think about this is you know in that gym if there's more games or the the seating capacity for it that's going to be huge especially if there's more things in there you know high school and middle school think about it I have 22 girls right now in middle school that's just for us you know and then mo most of these other schools have that

050or more on their you know we have that one section of bleachers you know in that side so you know thinking that what does that look like for you know majority of those if it's a double you know, if that's you know what it is in there, you can't use that. >> Okay, there's nothing else. We can move on. >> So, it just looks like >> official school colors. >> Yes, that was me. >> Oh, boy. >> I am just requesting that I guess um to reinstate the gold color um back into our official school colors. Um, you know, as I was creating, you know, it's been on my mind since last year when we created the or the two years ago when we created the high school volleyball jerseys. Um, you know, not able

051to put that in there. Um, because it's no longer a school color. Um, and then creating middle school, it's just bland. Maroon and white. And you know we don't you know black >> you think it more like maroon and gold not maroon gold and white >> white and gold like what it used to be and you know if the the issue with it is you know there's those different variations of the color well can we find a name and say if are we choosing gold or are we choosing yellow and then spec I know not yellow gold you know but I know what part of the problem was is that some people chose yellow you know and some had a gold and it was a yellowish orange or you know what I mean? It was

052those different variations. And then the other reasoning is, you know, or was was that it's not a primary dominant color, you know, and that's it was intended for as an accent color, but it's that's not how it was being used over the years. So, kind of that being the reasoning why I'm I was told that that would it was pulled as a you know, official school color. So try to just give a little more dimension back to >> when the school color >> when was it pulled >> when was it when did we have gold as >> I mean all through when I was in high school and even I don't know how much you were in high school. >> Yeah. I was like I don't really I mean I just know when we created

053the new volleyball um high school warm-ups it was all of a sudden gold wasn't. So I don't know when that final decision was made of it being pulled. So, are you thinking incorporating gold into the color or like instead of a white uniform, we'd have a gold uniform? >> No, just using gold in it to be able to put it as an accent. Not using it as a primary dominant, but putting gold in there, but specific like this is the like it's gold, you know, that's what I've chosen, which it was, you know, that's what it was before, not the yellow, >> I guess, but putting it back in there and then describing it as it's an accent color, you know, and I would think, you know, you could define what the word accent means.

054You know, it's like 25% of the design on it, you know, kind of just adding a little bit more dimension >> and and this would be primarily for uniforms, I would assume. >> Yeah. Uniforms. I mean, when you do school apparel, you know, I mean, everything it's just maroon and white, >> you know, and it's just you get >> sick of that just maroon and white, you know, and I, you know, look at Superior, you know, adding red into it, you know, some of these other schools, you know, Hermit Town, dark blue, light blue, white, you know, there's a little bit more, you know, where the the light blue is an accent, you know, just >> trying to get a little bit more dimension and look to be able to play around with >> something

055so it's not so bland. >> Okay. more with it. Um, you know, there's a lot of people, they see all of these things from years ago, shirts and stuff, they're like, "Wow, that looks so cool." And then we look now and the things are just maroon and white, and you can only do so much >> Yeah. >> with maroon and white and then not putting black in, you know, black in there. If if gold's not our color, then how can we put black in there either? Do you know what I mean? And say that that's an option when the school colors are just white. as an accent color. Do they does it have to be used? Like would we have to redo everybody? >> No, I'm just saying like it would be an option. Yeah.

056>> Yeah. No, but now it's not an option, you know, but saying if you if it can be put back in, but if you do, here are the the situations and the rules, you know, it is an accent. It's not a dominant color. It's gold, not yellow. you know, finding what that swatch looks like, what you >> what you want, I guess, for this meal. >> I think it would, you know, kind of really tie in the eagle as well with the yellow being on the beak, you know, just >> Well, yes, gold. I know. I want I'm saying gold, too, you know. >> Gold is gold. >> Yeah, kind of. I mean, I remember when I was in school, that's what color our volleyball jerseys were. gold shimmery and it used to be more

057of that. >> See, maybe that's what part of the problem is. There were so many different >> and then that's I think part of what is that there were just so many variations and some were choosing gold, some were choosing or yellow. >> Well, some of it has to depend on the manufacturer though. >> Yeah. Right. >> So, I guess I'll just interject. So, I mean >> to my much gold has never been one of the colors of our street. It's always been maroon and white. Um, and I know that that doesn't mean that we we can't do something, but I think the other people that was in the past when mold has been added, it has just been added there. There hasn't >> Well, that's I want Why is this even a board decision

058to add a color? I mean, can a coach or between you and the coaches say, "Well, we're going to get here's our cycle for the next new uniforms. I'd like to have these gold shoulders or whatever." I mean, >> I mean, and I have, you know, my with with maroon and white being our colors, that's what I am trying to stick to when especially when we order things. Um, and with gold not being a color, I mean, I like orange, but I'm not going to put that on a uniform because I >> guess that would be a problem if you if you just >> And I think some of it was just like, well, it looks nice, so we'll add it. And >> um, and I'm not against gold. I'm just saying like our school

059colors are maroon and white and other schools have been able like Northwood they're green and white and they'll sometimes add some black in there but it's >> well if black can be an option can gold be one >> that's kind of where I'm kind of going with it you know if it >> if one color can be it could it also be gold if it's >> I mean I guess I suppose the board could render some decision say yes our colors are maroon and white but we have an alternate color >> to give an accent color these are the three accent colors you could choose from or two accent or something you know defining it as an accent >> color to give it >> I don't have any like major grapes about it but is

060there anybody else like in our conference >> that that's like where we run into where they're using the same I mean I guess they would have home versus away jersey but I also think like Two of our sports, they don't even wear maroon because they wear green, >> right? Because >> Yeah. >> Well, I think >> black or whatever. >> I I think among the coaching staff, you probably need to have some consensus of >> our alternate third color >> is going to be orange, blue, >> gold, whatever. Because otherwise, >> you know, >> I get that. But when I wanted gold, >> Yeah. >> it was just said no because it's not a school color. So that's why I'm saying I get that and if we can do that that's great but to voice

061that and say you know if >> it's okay for >> it's okay to happen even though it's not >> technically yeah >> if we said yeah on gold then and then then basketball came and said well we want to add you know >> pink fuchsia >> right no I get that >> yes so we could kind of do it in one shot if there's some at least >> consensus among the coaches that if we're going to add an accent color, it's going to be >> this color or whatever. >> This color. >> Yeah. >> So, I was on that one anyways. >> Yeah. >> So, if you can coordinate that among the >> Well, our high school volleyball jerseys would have been nice to have two years ago with the gold that I But >>

062yeah, >> um it in the normal cycle of when you're >> Yeah. Is that something to be like you guys would write up like I know you said like is this even a board you know decision I don't I don't know that's why you know started is that >> something where you guys would be writing up to say >> if it if it's a change of the official school colors that is a board >> yeah that's why I kind of figure that it was >> function however if it's accent stuff it is not >> that's what you look at as >> as an accent color. >> Yeah, that's that's all it was was adding that opportunity and option to have >> a third accent color of whatever like but like you said not a free

063rate of choosing if I would I would choose purple because it's my favorite, you know, but I know that that's not anywhere, you know. I mean, neither I guess is gold either, but that's Drummond and get mad at us, >> but they're not conference anyway. Nate, I mean, you have a feeling if the coach wanted to say, "Hey, I'd like to add a gold accent." Even though it's not our I mean, I I just don't see I mean, there are some exceptions to that, but to me, it always kind of I feel a little weird when I see Superior with a red jersey from time to time. Like, it it's >> to me your school colors are your school colors and that's what you should wear. And so, so I'm I'm I guess I'm not

064as much in favor of of adding pieces. I mean, I've tried hard over the last couple years, couple of cycles to eliminate some of that because they aren't colors. >> Um, and you know, we've done new things in the gym other than the beak of the eagle, which I think would be really weird if it were white or maroon. Um, that's about the only thing that I have wanted to have in that yellowish color. >> Yeah, because now I'm thinking about my I think our baseball cap back in the day was maroon white with a gold bill, >> right? And I mean Sandy Slate's letter jacket when you walk by it, there's maroon and there's white on it. That's that's it. And I know because I asked the question a long time ago like where

065how did we get these colors? And as far as I know, when the Bennett and Soulen schools merged, one of them had maroon as the color, one of them had white as the color, and that's why they came to maroon and white because it was really a joining of those two entities into one district. So, I guess that's why I'm I'm a history guy and I'm less likely to just add pieces kind of knowing that that was the history behind that. And don't get me wrong, we've made some nice uniforms that have had some gold accents on. Um, but I also have seen other schools that have been able to manage with two colors and it's been okay. And and yes, I I agree with you, Sierra. It makes designing somewhat of a challenge when

066you've got a white uniform and the only other thing you're going to add is some around it and vice versa. But I I guess what I would look at is if there's a little bit of blue with you know some of this accent but not going all out because I I would agree red was to me was not part of superior but then you have a red uniform that's >> that's way beyond it right >> so >> but that gets back into history superior too because a long time ago red was one and then they got rid of it then we had two different colored boos and white and then >> we got rid of a blue and But I think like if you want to add like a pin striping of gold or like

067the little cutout >> I don't have any major gripes about it >> and in some ways it can also make us stand out a little bit >> probably on the too. It is baseball, softball. >> Yeah. So, first of all, I appreciate this going on the agenda. I really honestly do. Um, this is something. So, our youth baseball and softball organization has just found out um like some legality stuff with the organization with EIN and their tax ID um number. So, for the past year, we've been trying to get in like good standings back um with Wisconsin. Um, we've, you know, had some lots that we needed to sell, but we, you know, had to go through some some of these loops to reinstate some stuff and pay some fees to be able to sell

068those lots. >> Lots in my eyes. >> Land lots. >> Yes. Land lots that were registered underneath this organization. Okay. >> Um, that at one point wanted to be used as baseball fields and they're just so overgrown, it would take thousands of dollars. So, we were able to sell those um, you know, leg legally sell those, you know, through it. And then, um, we were trying to for Sports Engine to start using Sports Engine as um our website for registration and fee collecting and in the process of doing that um we had to Carly which is the president had to go get EIN number. Well then Mr. Did you attach >> We have the letter. >> You guys are It's a nonprofit. >> It is. So then there's We This was pulled up and I

069like I said, I don't know how the CPA guy and maybe it's just because they don't do didn't catch this. I guess I guess when we were trying to do all of the tax ID stuff, too. Um but according to this department of financial institutes um institutions that organization was administratively dissolved in 2017. Um so with that we're not legal. The organization is not legal. We're not legal you know to collect payments to do registration to have volunteers working. Um our first course of action we were able to finally meet yesterday and talk as a board of you know what are what are what should we do first um before we moved on the point of this was seeing about if the district and we're bringing this to Northwood too um they have sent this

070to superintendent um Kelly and going to meet at their committee of the whole meeting on Thursday too um just kind of what this letter says asking to see if the school would ever or would, you know, take I want to I don't know how to say this, not take on, but kind of have this organization under the wing, you know, with their, you know, taxi and stuff. And, you know, different things could happen in there. Whether then the school just takes over with it, you know, and does it their way and runs it kind of like how middle school basketball, middle school volleyball is run, not with the softball, baseball, you know, program with it, or if it's, you know, take on and ran like just an umbrella underneath like, you know, run where you

071have a committee then that specifically just does this, you know, the baseball, softball. Um, just more or less trying to get the conversation going to see what each district is thinking. I mean, we're kind of we've been for over a year we've been trying to figure this out with this organization. We thought we were in the clear to, you know, have everything up to date, statuses of everything complete, I guess, and start. So if the old one is dissolved, what have you just starting a new? >> It is, but it takes months to do. And the reason why is we start, you know, typically this season starts >> next month. >> Well, we start signups already, you know, like we wanted to already um we were ready to start rolling this out this, you know,

072start of next week. Um because, you know, these the organizations that we run with, you know, they want our numbers by the beginning week or second week of March. So then they can get all that, get their schedules ready to get them out by April so people can start practicing to start play in May and you know kind of thing. So it's kind of like that urgent reason why I asked for it to be on today is just to kind of start that conversation and thoughts and opinions and anything you know really on I mean you know yes it's an option to start you know a whole new organization but like said that takes months. I mean I assume there was a old organization had bylaws or some organizational document. >> So that's the thing

073when we took over three years ago there was nothing like we had like no not even packets of anything given to us about paper being filed you know we just assumed that it was all you know in good standing you know with it. And over the years we've been finding out slowly we've had to build our you know build we built fil bylaws you know already. We've had those for quite a while now you know since us three have taken over this organization >> if hypothetically if the both schools did >> like I'm guessing that's ideal like soul and endline on both >> yeah we would because it's a co-op co-op somehow >> and if we went the road was Would three of you still be interested or you three want to be like wash

074your hands? >> We would still be interested because we did chat about that together. We, you know, we still would be interested on starting this up, you know, or not starting. Yes. No, started up continuing on and doing it in collaboration with the schools. >> Have you seen any other schools? >> No. And that's I know that's a thing that they haven't, but just because they haven't does that mean that we can't do it, you know, kind of I I know that it's been a question of mine of why are, you know, middle school, you know, for basketball and volleyball, you'll see it in schools, but what was ever the reasoning for schools not taking on softball and baseball for theater programs in the youth? Was it the timing of the year? >> It generally

075was because when first started out, it was strictly summer. >> Yeah. Where this is just about the same high school baseball and it's been a slow shift that >> but then I'm assuming that I mean it would not be nice to think that everybody would say oh I'm going to volunteer my time but you get paid for doing a middle school. >> No that's another one and I said you know our school is probably going to say that you know with it. Um there is due to you know just to talk about the cushion of it you know due to being able to sell those lots um on there roughly you know the finance portion of it there is each school would be getting between 10 and 15 you know with us being able to

076sell what we did and what's in the accounts you know now to at least I know that's a start of the equipment's already bought jerseys are already bought you know I know that side of paying for the coaches, you know, is a thing because just like you said, they get paid for middle school volleyball, they get paid for middle school basketball. >> Yep. And I mean, it's not against the rules to charge people, you know, for this, whereas if it's, you know, we kind of did the same thing that we're doing now is, you know, there is a registration fee um that covers the ref or not the refs, the um the umpires for >> I think we have to be cautious for one middle school sporting the others and then who's >> okay you

077three are willing to do it now but now >> in the next two years your kids >> oh lean I think you know that I would be there in two years so >> and but that's with anything though that's with anything that we have we schoolboard members I mean teachers it's we could be there two years, three years, you know, and I get, trust me, all of those is something that right away went through my brain, too. But we was like, we got to start this conversation or something somewhere to try to figure out how we can do this, you know, otherwise there's a hundred and some kids that don't have I'm not saying that that's your, you know, that's what would come about of it, but this was just kind of like our first

078first option, you know, to talk about this and bring it up. >> Well, if it was dissol, this was dissolved in 2017 and you've been playing. >> Yeah. >> Since what why can't you continue doing what you've been doing? >> Well, I guess just the morals of knowing that you're it's you have an organization claim it, you know, as an organization and doing it. That's really about it. I don't personally want to, you know, be on a board that not a board that collects money and shows us just me on it and it's kind of how we all three. >> Well, so you are would you be looking at the district doing this as a bridge until you got the that months? >> That would be that could be part of it like if that's

079something like you know we would do this for you know two year or whatever you know until the process is you know complete with you guys know. Yes. That's an option, you know, if that would >> you could be operating the same as SS. >> Exactly. That exactly >> which is school, >> right? >> Which is what >> part of the school and you're looking at starting something like >> unfortunately. Yes. Because of it. Yeah. Just the timing of it sucks quote unquote. Because of how the season, you know, we already begin with those signups and registration and collecting fees and, you know, getting coaches. It just is ironic that this is now, you know, it's happening. >> But if we if we did that, what what would that look like financially bringing it on?

080Because you'd have to designate activity account. Correct. Bring those funds in. I think sports would have to be treated similar >> to me. So coaches workers >> uniforms and then does it also then who's is this another thing that happens to Nathan's list. So during the summer then >> but if it's a committee if we form a committee of it and if it's off of him you know still running how we're doing it now where we find you know if that's something that's still allowed middle school you start at >> 4K >> I guess that's why I was going with the activity you've got a chunk of change that you're dealing with >> I think if you talk about morals That's probably the bigger issue than >> just running, >> you know, bringing in fees

081for the year and doing stuff, right? >> But that that's that would be my question. How can you bring it in if it's a short term and still get it out and get past auditing with that? >> That's that that's my concern. >> I don't think it's something you could decide right now. I think we have to. >> Oh, I know. I unfortunately I know that, but transportation. >> It's all on parents like to games and stuff. But I mean that's how it's ran now. Like that's I'm just >> But that's another thing where we have it within schools and people are going to >> No, I know. I get it. That's all has ran through my brain of how to make this work. Okay. Summer school or summer sports have sports pretty much always

082been done outside >> the district and trying to put that inside the district as a whole. >> So how does the basketball association do it >> because that starts >> we're not with the school. >> The basketball isn't separate like this had been. >> It was never a part of the school. Right. >> Are are they a nonprofit organization? >> Yes. So it's part of the problem because of the big chunk of money you have. >> No, it's that's not the problem. It's just this administrator administratively dissolved and not get legal to collect fees and registrations through this. >> So you just prioritization? >> Yes. >> Well, is there any way you can incorporate it under SSY whatever it is? >> Um that's not a co-op one. Um SSI is just sold, >> right? But

083it's a co-op co-op basketball association. >> Yeah. >> But I mean they have an organization >> legit sports >> versus an option. >> Well, it might be something to look into if there's already >> a similar type organization that's out there. >> And I think North has one of theirs. I think the fact that it's a co-op makes it, you know, it's not really a co-op. I mean, it's just kids from a area, >> right? Because then they usually separate teams anyways like Northwood. >> Depends on the year just depends on the year, you know, at each level. What's on from Sol ideally? Yes. That's especially when they get to that third through 8th grade. We try to do that the co-op, you know, portion that T-ball and rookies are 40 kids from each school

084that will you know so there's no reason to >> so does youth basketball have a separate board of some sort? >> I would explore maybe seeing if they can you know merge with you guys for a short period the year or whatever >> or you know again try Northwood if they give you a nod of the head then >> problem either district is willing or what that all would look like to >> maybe just seems like it's strain >> right that's why I was ask you know you know thoughts and what else >> yeah we don't But for Northwood, they still have their >> something that >> Yeah. >> Is there ever I mean I know this is new and I not new, but is there like a hard no of like districts taking on

085youth baseball and softball >> with those? >> Well, no, neither have I. I've never because that's the way it's been, you know, for 40 years. there some but to try to you know get that >> one of the things in my thought is the fact that our our fiscal year ends July first >> and then there's the crossover and trying to keep the book work getting everything in when you need it >> there's only one team of ours that goes past June any you know and if that was you know a thing about it it was well you could easily you know shift >> I think because it's something fairly new for I I just don't see we could just jump into it and say >> I'm not I'm not I'm just asking. >> But

086you're looking for this spring, right? >> Yeah. Well, yes. This this situation. Yes. Because of the new information given >> or found out I should say. >> Yeah. >> With this. >> So, like I said, it was just to start the conversation, see what that looked like. >> Okay. >> Ins and outs, pros, cons, could it work, could it not? How could it work? kind of to try to get this up and rolling because we know what the damage is going to be if we can't you know get it up and rolling for like I said over the hundred some kids that this is >> okay >> you know this is unfortunately this is you know a feeder program for our high schools too you know so that's you know part of >> enjoying it

087still be here you know still be able to have that option >> well I mean I don't think we're in have we're in a position to have enough information say there's a hard no >> or any you know so >> there's not a hard no >> because we I just don't think we have enough >> right >> to say one way or another right now >> I I wasn't expecting yes or no just start of conversation what does it look like >> started >> yeah okay I know that >> okay thank you I'll bring back those other >> the you know the booster club option for them when they meet you know especially for Northwood side of it um when they meet with them on Thursday. Maybe that could be something they, you know, they

088brought up anyways and think about. >> Yeah, there's not. I mean, that's the problem to help >> was an account that you could >> Yeah. sweep it under, I guess. Or that's >> because what are your I mean, what are you needing other than the EIN number that to make it legal, I guess, to to have a bank account that's registered to it >> to it. >> I mean, I incorporated myself uh for something completely different and it took about a month to get an EI in >> and all that stuff. It wasn't >> that hard to do an LLC. >> Well, I'm not saying it's hard, >> but I don't think it takes that long either. >> Yeah. >> Got it. Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Okay. Next item is graduation ceremony date and

089time. >> Yeah. Um so I know the board has kind of brought up this in past conversations as well. Um changing our graduation ceremony from Saturday to Friday evening instead. Um did bring this topic to the rest of the staff as well and they were all on board with making that change. So the board had brought this up >> there. There was mention from uh some board member in previous conversations. >> Okay. >> And the rationale that provided I mean Saturdays to me are the you know you got families coming in. I don't know that many you know I don't know Friday night just seems like an odd time to me. >> And I think somebody else mentioned after talk to you guys about that too. That I think at one point because my has

090theirs Friday night and someone had theirs Saturday. I mean you can say well you can pick or choose but there's also that combination where we have crossover but they have a different >> Yeah. >> Are they the same? They're the Friday Friday night and then we're the next day on Saturday. Yeah, because they start they everything right before >> get it over with Friday night. You got the whole weekend to play. I think that's that's the other piece of that is is we're talking about families, but then we're also talking about teachers that >> if they got it on Friday night and they had no vest interest in that weekend >> like having family come in for the graduation ceremony and they get to stay for the party the next day versus seems Like every

091year there's a list of families that try to do both in the same day or >> but a lot of people spread them out even past >> the graduation weekend. >> What does that look like for does it mess up anything? If we were to move to Friday for our set >> that day >> and then the lock in would be Thursday night instead of Friday night. Then how does that look if they do the walk and then they're doing the practice and graduation they're not going home and sleeping will >> or do the walk can you do the walk in the same day as superior does >> I was going to say the lock in the night >> after the graduation >> cere you get like an hour afterwards and then you have to

092be in the building by 9 p.m. and you're locked in for the night. I mean, that's kind of like the point that keeps them from >> the night of graduation. It keeps them from >> so >> partaking another way. >> There's no way I'd come back for something like that. >> Pretty common. >> Like you never left. It's like >> and I get the appeal like >> senior, you know, you had some that didn't partake in it, but it kept other ones out of trouble that night. But that but we're also saying we're freeing up Saturday for people to have graduation parties. >> So really then we're saying don't have one that day because we want to lock you in. >> Okay. So some consideration stuff. There's questions. I mean we can certainly answer that.

093But >> has anybody ran by this year to amilies already have plans. >> You have a senior. I mean, do you have >> um >> would it make a difference to you one way or another? >> I I mean, I I think the probably the biggest logistical piece is family coming in from out of town. um that you know Friday can be a travel day and they're here and then they're ready for the and we bumped up the the um graduation ceremony to 11 for the last two three years. I think that's been a good change um because now it's starts in the morning, you're done by a little afternoon and then you've got the rest of the day. Um so I think without speaking for everybody, I think just the if you knew you

094had to get place by, you know, 7 o'clock for graduation on Friday night. That might pose some issues, but then it does free up the rest of the weekend. I know when a graduated with a, you know, a larger class, I think just the whole graduation party issue was was a larger one because some people wanted to, you know, they graduated on on Saturday and then some people wanted to do it right that day on Saturday. We always held out till Sunday, but then I didn't go to many parties that year because we were hosting a party and we couldn't get to, you know, kids that he had gone to school with for 12 years. We couldn't get to some of those parties, you know, because there's just less time. And I and I think

095by having a graduation party or the ceremony on Friday, it does open that window a little bit more. And I know, you know, Northwestern Superior, they've got way bigger problems and they spread out those graduation parties till mid June for crying out loud because you can't, you know, not everyone can get to all of those places at once. So, I guess I'm not strongly in favor one way or the other. Um, I don't know how long we've been doing it on Saturday. seems forever, but you know, >> if we did it on Friday, I think it would I think we could make it work too because I know a lot of schools graduate on Friday night. I work every Saturday night. And that was some of the conversation from staff was just that you would

096have more of a presence of staff Friday night being at graduation versus a Saturday. >> And then >> I'll have to do a roll call. >> Yeah. And then uh what was the other part? Yeah, just kind of speaking to the the Saturday. Not a lot of people want to take that Saturday. >> You know, if you can't take a Saturday to do a graduation, >> I think of my family trying to travel and having to they're already probably taking a part of Friday to travel up, but they're looking at Thursday and Friday, >> but you do the same thing for their kids. >> Yeah. But like my brother's a teacher. My brother-in-law drives truck. So I don't know. This is a nice back then you had four tickets. So >> I mean I I

097kind of lean towards senior classes here feels like and I mean we can make a decision. >> Yeah. >> Later on and just kind of see where >> so maybe we could do a official poll of the senior class and encourage them to talk to their parents as well. Not just make the decision. >> Yeah. things done already >> next year. >> Well, then we're not in a rush to make >> Well, when do we have to when does it get get locked in? >> Well, it's on for the new calendar for for next year. >> For next year. >> Yeah. So, like this year it's still Saturday at 11:00. >> So, I mean, we can take the poll for the seniors this year, >> but they're already >> they alreadyve Okay. All right. >>

098Right. I mean, this is correct, right? Next year. >> All right. AGR plan update. >> Yeah. So, um I have to submit our midyear update. Um these were the goals that I had shared with you earlier this year and this is just what the information after our um recent testing back in January. Um so you can just kind of take a look where our this is kindergarten through third grade in in reading and math. So welcome to take a look and see that we have some growth in some areas. And then, you know, just kind of what we talked about last year as well. Sometimes you see a little regression mid year. Um, but that's pretty pretty typical, especially when we're coming back from a two week break and having our students diving into testing.

099So, yeah, that's just information there. Like said, there's a lot of positives, seeing a lot of growth. Teachers are doing a lot of great things. The the other thing that's kind of wonky just to give an idea of what FastBridge does on the when we're talking about math side is that the FastBridge is looking at the developmental timeline of those students. So what you see in the fall might not be exactly what you see in the winter as far as what they're focusing on with the testing. So So that could discrepense employee compensation consideration check. Uh so just bring it um for consideration to the board how we want to proceed for uh contractual stuff for next year. Um right now I had it as a 2.7% then when we talked to bar last week

100it's actually at like 2.63%. So we have a few different options on how we want to go about more manage rate of 2.5 match current CPI 2.6 or 2.7 3% which has been consistent with the past couple years here. Well, right. And I think we did that to try to make up for kind of falling behind a little bit on salary. I don't I don't know if it's sustainable to keep going above CPI. Absolutely. And it's thinking about, you know, the long long run, you know, where we want to be as far as our teacher I don't think we're at any point in time with >> that'll be up for >> next board meeting. >> So we we have to get a baseline for what we're going to do for >> you. Um That's that's

101some of the preliminary discussion depending on what their financial situation is typically most of them follow that CPI range competing with Northwestern and Superior we're competing if you want to look at it that way withore school of our Okay. OP actuary study renewal. So they they offered us a contract to do a four year contract. That's we're required to do that at least partial every two years and every third year we have to do a full actuary study. a contract for four years because then they also'll keep all of our baseline information in so it is easier for them to make the adjustments change. in the past trying to find a different company um to do the actuary studies was very difficult and this company was the cheapest by far from the lessons that I've

102heard from other schools it's still the same so I would suggest going about since Is the 3725 cover per year? >> Yeah, because they had a total of well. >> Yeah, they had a fouryear agreement >> because the big one is a lot more expensive than when they have to do the meetings each year and we don't have we don't have them do >> the state is requiring we do this. >> Yes. It's not it's not anything we have an option. >> I think that's all right. >> So like this year was was $800 because that was our 25 That was our small understanding considerations. Um so with with that it is uh taking a look at shared staff that is something that we still are entertaining because right now we have one position that's

103shared between us and just making sure we want to continue with some of these options. >> I mean how has that been working out? >> It seems to be working fine. Scott Northwood wants to continue that. So, >> okay. >> And was actually trying to explore other considerations. So, >> beyond Spanish or >> Yeah. And said teachers progressing with certification and everything. >> Okay. And our enrollment it's it's definitely meeting the need for middle school because that is a requirement some high school we have to other stuff considerations. What else was he thinking >> as far as the teacher? >> Yeah, other shared teaching. >> Well, um he he brought up something as far as uh he'd be willing to share a person for social studies like high school and middle school, social studies if

104we needed that. Um and then he's looking for school psychologist. So, Right. So that some point there will be more. >> Right. Just making sure that we're on board with you know looking at different options to work together to share stuff. >> I think if we're able to come together and do a full-time person that's going to be more advantageous. >> Yeah. Y >> next item is school calendar. >> So with the school calendar, we're still trying to sell that. I brought the two different options, but as I was looking at it more, you know, having um keeping the the contract days but reducing student time, I think it was just adding more to that potential having to add more time if we have you know inclement weather days or whatever. Um so just made

105a minor adjustment. We're going to talk to the leadership team make sure we're absolutely on board with it. It's just providing them more time to get prepared for coming back from break by taking away that half day in December and providing that full day for teachers right after the Christmas break. So that's that's the main difference between the two. Anything else on that? >> Okay. school closure policy >> check. Um, so as we we've looked at this before, but then uh noticing that there were some things that really needed to be changed as it as it meets uh some of the language from uh from Noah when we start talking about extreme cold or extreme cold botch uh versus windchill and uh you know other items there. So making it more in line with what

106what we see for alerts. Um those were some of the big things. And then also um you know just leaving it open that that we can make that call um you know between 7 p.m. the night before and so gives us some latitude here. Got to treat this as a first read. >> Right. >> All right. Uh, next item is public Wi-Fi during the school day. Um, yeah. So, this kind of came up in conversation as it relates to the act that was recently passed at the state level um regarding personal cell phones just in the electronics during the school day. Um and some of that conversation I've had with our Mr. um the possibility of shutting down public Wi-Fi during the school day to eliminate some of those issues that we continue to see

107here and there with students using their personal devices. >> Oh, because because I mean they're not supposed to now, but they still do. Do we know are they using Wi-Fi as opposed to just Well, cell services are very good. >> Yeah. So, cell services, as we all know, is pretty limited here. Um, so that would eliminate a lot of the because I mean kids are still trying to sneak cell phones. >> Yeah. >> So eliminate some of those issues. >> Is it literally like a matter of flipping a switch to turn it on and off? >> They have password. So there's a public Wi-Fi and then Yeah. So their school logged in. >> Yeah. the the the school school owned computers, those are programmed to lock into >> so it's not like they had the

108password. >> That's right. >> So, so it this is a little bit above and beyond. Um I will say when we start looking at Act 42 and what it encompasses, it's truly talking about instructional time. Um, so it still leaves some leeway for districts to say, well, if it's not instructional time, they could use it or not based on what >> like lunch hour, right? Whatever, >> right? Whatever the district chooses in this. Um, so it's very exclusive to saying instructional time. Does that mean we have to stick to just that? No, we can go beyond that and set our own parameters for this, but we have to have to make sure instruction. So >> does that do anything like there isn't service for our teachers >> the there could be some workarounds with that

109you know we're talking about some of the safety stuff um I will say Dave was able to set my phone up on on the staff so I still have access and it's not I mean I don't know what password is like you put it in there. Okay, sounds good. But so we can look at that route and still have staff being able to access things for communication and whatnot. But >> well, yeah, I don't think I don't think we should necessarily cut kids access off completely because maybe at lunch they got to text home and say, "Hey, practice is canceled tonight. Pick me up at so and so." So, >> yeah. So, Now students aren't allowed to have their phone during the instructional day. If they need to get a hold of their parents, they

110use the phone. >> Well, as long as there's some avenue where they can communicate. Okay. Consideration. >> Sorry, I found the page. It's knew it was here. So, They laid out the the cost for each of the four years. So right now um it would be 3700 for the for this year. If we do a 4 year would be 36 3650 and then um it has the next three years. So it would be for the four years total it would be 9,525. So they lock down >> Jim. Um so Jim Floyd contract what we have there is um the proposed contract laying out for three years. I know it's an increase from the last um the last contract that we had with them. Uh but Mark to lay this out, Mark said that he and

111his team could do this and could probably come out cheaper. But then you beg the question as to the time that he and his team are involved with that. What are they not able to get to? Plus the fact that when these guys come in it is they can be split and shortest amount of time that that the gym is not available. So I mean there there's some give and take. We can go with the cheaper route it lengthens the time that the gym may be may not be available. Plus then it's limiting what his team can do. >> Do you recount it every year? >> Yes. What was it left? >> Well, no knock on Mark and his team, but I mean, this is what these guys do for a living. >> Yeah, I

112I was watching this past summer. Was crazy how >> Yeah. >> going through that. might be something to look at as we get more. Okay. All right. If there's nothing else, I think we're moving into close session. So convening a close session pursuant to Wisconsin statute 19.851C to consider the employment promotion compensation or perform performance evaluation down of any public employee or which the governmental body has jurisdiction or exercises responsibility. >> I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I opposed. Motion carried. We are moving into close session. >> 7:42 at 7:42.