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Board Meeting 04.28.25

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YouTube / Solon Springs School District
Date
2025-04-29
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Douglas County, WI
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7,439 words · about 42 min
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2026-06-11

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001to save. So he come and pitch the other first pressure. Yeah. But he stats. Yes. Sorry. I was trying to get No, you're good. start. Yeah, it's your final meeting. He might call this meeting to order. And the time is 601. Um, John here. Ben here. Brittney here. Brad here. And our newest member will be sworn in, Scott, here very shortly. All right, announcements. All right, let's see. Uh upcoming meetings, we have committee as a whole on May 5th and regular meeting on May 19th. Uh oath of offices this evening is Britney Hagard and Scott O'Brien. So do the oath of office. All right. Before you head out. Oh yeah. Sorry. This is from us and the board in the school. Oh okay. Well, thank you for being a leader here with us in that.

002Thank you for all your work and your volunteering basically because we all know how the big paycheck. Oh yeah, we know how far that stretched. Keith, I appreciate you. Sorry, please go ahead. Yeah, I I just, you know, it's somewhat self-reerential, but my kids have benefited immensely from being part of Soul and District and thank you because your visionary leadership and you were week in week out or month in month out whatever you just doing the job. You put your hands to the task and I appreciate it. Not very glorious and some very light nights but in the beginning my family has prospered and and I say that my family but I know I'm speaking for scores of other families. So, thank you. Thank you. Absolutely. And I appreciate the time, coffee, talking over stuff

003and whatnot. So, yes. Always much appreciated. So, Brad, that's your new job. You got to buy coffee and take him to lunch every day. There you go. All right. So, good. Thank you. All right. We're out. Thanks, guys. Appreciate your time, Britney. Brad, you Scott, good luck. Thanks, T. Yes. Only name plate. John, thank you. All right, Saman. Keep watching those dyes. Hold up the dollars. You know me. It's gone. So, you'll be great. Yeah. All right. Call you tomorrow. Yeah. I'm sure somebody's got my number. Sarah, good to see. Thanks, sir. All right, guys. Have a good night. So, we're going to do two office tonight. We got Britney. And instead of me repeating that, you can just read this, okay? If you'd like, okay, um, you just basically read that whole first part

004where it says Britney. Okay. You have to stand. Do I have to stand? Okay. Um I excuse me. I Britney Her having been elected or appointed to the office of Sen Springs School Board, but have not yet entered upon the duties thereof swear or affirm that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Wisconsin, and will faithfully discharge the duties of set office to the best of my ability. So help me God. Okay. just need you to sign. Okay. And same for you, sir. All right. I, Scott O'Brien, having been elected or appointed to the office of Solen Springs School Board, will but have not yet entered upon the duties thereof, swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the

005State of Wisconsin, and I will faithfully discharge the duties of said office to the best of my ability. So help me God. All right. Yes, we now own them. All right, with that being taken care of, now we go to election of board officers. So, right now we have the president's vacancy. Get approval of the agenda. Oh, yes. Sorry, I skipped that one. Can I get a motion to approve the tonight's agenda? So, move. Second. I was erased. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Okay. All right. Election of board officers. So we have the presidency is open and any other position that can be um changed at this point also. So we need a recommendation to for the president's the position. Right. So, so what we will do here is it would go off to

006the next person. Um, which um I think Ben, if you could please operate that as far as taking nominations for president. Um, closing that and then we'll do a an election. All right, that makes sense. So, there are nominations for board president. Yep. I nominate Brad Hunter. Brad Hunter. Do you accept the nomination? I do. Are there any other nominations for board president? hearing none. I move we close nominations. Right. And then at a vote. Yes, please. And this needs to be individual formal vote, please. All right. So, all if you're in favor of Brad being president, please say I. I start with you, John. John, I. Britney, I. Brad, I. Oh, Ben. I Yeah, Scott. Hi. Motion carries. Let's vote. All right. Can I get a nomination for vice president? Can I nominate this

007if I'm doing it right? Um, it would be You can, but the preference would be to have other nominations. Is there anybody else to nominate before I do? I nominate John. Okay. Do you accept? Yes. Any other nominations? Okay. That being said, we will vote. Scott, I Brad I Britney Ben. Hi. And John. Hi. Okay. Um, secretary right now or is it secretary or is it clerk? Clerk. Um, right now Britney, you are the clerk. Are you okay staying there as a clerk? Anybody have any nominations otherwise or is everybody okay with that? Does someone still see Do we still have to vote though? We We still have to Okay, go ahead. All right. I nominate Britney. All right. Any other nominations? Okay. John, I Ben, hi Britney. I myself, I and Scott. Hi. All

008right. And then treasurer nominations. I I was a treasure. I'd rather not be nominated to be treasur. All right. Well, there's only one other person we can nominate. All right. I nominate Scott O'Brien. That's me. Do you accept the nomination? Yep. All right. Yes. Ben or John? Yes. Ben, yes. I Britney, hi. I myself and Scott, I All right. All right. All of the selection officers are filled. Ben, you will be at large. All right. Moving on. Approval of meeting minutes from March 24th. Can I get a motion, please? I'll make the motion. Second. All in favor? Any opposed? All right, treasurer, you get to do the treasurer's report. Oh, so go ahead to the treasure and click on the thing to open it up. So, you're basically going to read beginning all the darkened

009ones. So, you read beginning balance, deposits, total deposits. Um, you don't have to read any of these. Just the dark uh bold. Got it. In bold. Beginning balance was 1,356,490.78. There are 37,498.25 in total deposits. Expenses. We had $421,351.91 leaving leaving us with an ending balance of 972,63712. Let's go down there's local pool and the local government pool balance is $2,512,1225 balance. Can I get a motion to approve it? So move. Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Expenditures. I get an approval for expenditures. Uh I'll make the motion to approval. and a second. Second. Any discussion or any on any of them? If not, all in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Assuming no school council tonight. Committee as a whole report. We've got the minutes there as far as the discussion

010pieces. Anybody have any questions or anything on it? Anything bring up on it? Eagles Wings Charter School update. Likewise. Uh we have the uh meeting minutes from their meeting attached. Okay. popped up for me, but I have all athletic director extracurricular report. So, a lot a lot of good things there. Um, I think the uh the one that was not finalized when he put this in was the vote or maybe he did get it in uh the vote from WIA. There was a several things that that came across as far as uh the general assembly and I think the the one that's impacting us most at this point in time is the approval of the name, image and likeness um stance from WIA. Uh Now there there is official um guidance as far as name,

011image and likeness for the state of Wisconsin. Uh the uh the DPI as well as the state legislature did not produce anything. So that's where WA came across. Um, basically what it's saying is that uh high school students can um can get a u financial uh benefit from their name, image and likeness as long as it does not promote the school or if it's or businesses that are attached to the school in some fashion. So more information as we if we want to get into that. The awards banquet is actually starting at 2 p.m. It is. It is. Oh, slight change of plans. Having all teachers here and um having all students present here, uh there was a a determination to switch it up. So, I like that it's now a Wednesday night, the same.

012So, a question for you. Um, how just in terms of protocol here, when Nate goes down to the WIA annual meeting and he votes on these resolutions, constitutional amendments, yes. Does he vote his desire or does he represent our collective will? He represents us and and he we go over that first to make sure that it's it's not his strictly. So because I see that the unlimited summertime coaching contact between June I mean that's really I think that's a terrible idea. Right. And and we should talk that through it. It was it was an over overwhelming vote there that's going to happen. Yes. Yeah. So but can we as a school um implement something different than what the WIA allows? We can we can get more restrictive of that. It just gets very it gets

013challenging to to uphold that. So, okay. Well, that's what I'm saying. Maybe it's something we discussed because uh yeah, I share Ben's concerns that we're now we're having coaches grasp students over the summer for the following year. Right. Well, it's it's it's not just that, but it's it's year round. So, so you you could have one sport that's impinging on other sports based on the season. And and Nate and I were not not in favor of that because I I I don't think it's I don't think it's wise if especially for students that are in multiple sports because where is that downtime and you're constantly impinging upon their time, their family time, etc. So, we we were not in favor of it, but WIA uh the consensus was passage, but if Spring School District said,

014"Okay, that's fine. WIA, we're going to implement our own more restrictive policy." And I would I would much rather have that discussion with Nate here as we push forward if that's something we want to bring. Put that on the agenda. Yeah, absolutely. So, so absolutely. Okay. All right. Principal's report. Bring that up here. Maybe. All right. All right. Just a number of good things. Uh we had Uh pretty decent turnout with 4K 5K round up uh with 11 um and families showing up meeting the teachers and whatnot. Uh I completed all of our Wisconsin state assessments as that window closed on Friday. Um and then we've got the upcoming events listed as such. And then you Pete, before we get to that, since this is I guess more enrollment and student base, how many seniors

015are we expecting to graduate this year? All of them. 15. 15. Yeah. Um Okay. So moving on for myself. Uh one thing or the first thing I have up there is cloud-based security camera system. Uh something that want to take a look at here for the future and have future discussion on. Right now, our our computer system is linked to a server that's in house here, and it is becoming wfully outdated. Um, it was created to run on Windows um, Explorer. Yeah. Close, but no. Um, operate on on Windows Explorer, which that's gone away. There have been workarounds and patches to make it functional, but it's still not great. It's It's lagging. The other piece of that the the amount of of uh space it's it's finite, right? So the more cameras you add, that

016reduces the the amount of space you have available for saving images and uh footage. Um which then that gets into a pinch if you need something beyond I think now it's even less than 30 days worth of saved video. So anything beyond that that's gone. So So if you if you go into the system and say here's something on day 10 we want to save. Is there a way of duplicating it or once you hit 30 days it's gone forever? No. You you can pull specific footage and save specific footage. Okay. But you have to have knowledge of you know the camera the time and location etc. Um but yeah, if if we don't get it by that time, it's it's gone. So is the server that we use now, is that dedicated just to

017the security system or is it other things? My my understanding is that that server is separate with the cameras, but I mean Dave would have better understanding of all that piece. Um because we do have the server stacks here and but once again our camera system just operates off of that. there's no cloud-based to it for further savings. So, so I'm just wondering as an alternate uh to the cloud-based if upgrading or and I'm not up upgrading the server for larger capacity, right? Is that I I Yes, we can look at that. I'm sure it is. You you still run into the the the finite amount of saving we have capable. Uh plus then he Dave would have a better idea of what the expenses are. I wanted I wanted to bring this topic up

018just knowing we we faced some issues uh in some recent stuff where yeah we lost footage couldn't find or we were unable to retrieve it. Plus, the other piece of it is uh Dave had to get some um offline uh program to try to obscure faces on it versus some of these services now you're able to obscure faces pretty rapidly and easily. So, well, what what what typically would be the purpose of obscuring investigations? I mean, you're you're going to look at raw footage at some point. No, you couldn't show it to us, but but I Yeah, I and it's probably the people that aren't affected in the video that that's that's correct. So, I I'm just laying out the good and the bad of it. I Anyway, so you know roughly what the subscription

019costs have you looked at? Uh I I wanted to ask if if this is something we want to pursue to put it on for future to discuss. Um I'm just laying out this issue is a small concern. I think it should be at least in one of our meeting as a whole committee as a whole thing to start I mean to look at it at least see what it is see I think Mark's inquired into it a little bit yeah no it it's it's kind of a costly a costly piece but I guess it's weighing the pros and cons of this Anyway, look at it. The the it's questionable as to how long our current system is going to be serviceable based on the operating system and the patches that are used to keep it

020functional. So, have you had occasion to walk or or had a need to look beyond path more than 30 days? Once or twice. Okay. And I know that uh even last year there was an inquiry on it. Uh it was an inquiry that was 40 days 45 days out and all footage was lost. So we couldn't provide one way or the other. So but I mean that's that's true of the the rest of the universe too. I mean people have unlimited capacity to save footage. Right. Right. Well on cameras or internally. Uh if if it goes cloud-based, there are other methods to retrieve some of that. But how long would you want to save footage for? Uh we definitely want to have some parameters to that because I I think unlimited is Yeah, I a

021it's costly as I'll get there. Even even though it goes to cloud-based, there's still limits to it and you can increase that limit, but it also costs more. So anyway, All right. Uh, the next item, I just want to make sure that I I informed Brad of this. It was a little bit of a concern. Um, nothing has come directly to the district regarding Title Six. Title Six. What that's referring to is uh Civil Rights Act of 1964. Uh it was something that came to the DPI regarding new certification practices and um the the DPI felt that it was too vague and were unwilling to sign off on a new certification. They they said we've checked off on all districts. They are compliant and certified with the the previous structure. What is the LEA certification?

022Right. So that's us. An LEA is a local ation agency. So that's thank you for asking that question. Um just like sea is the the state level. So so all of the states have received this. Um I know of recent Minnesota is challenging it and actually is filed a lawsuit regarding this very topic. So uh the deadline was Thursday last week. Obviously we did not submit anything. Um I was nervous for a bit but once again did not receive anything and and all the other uh school districts in the state are at that same point. So anyway, just want to make sure that all of you had a heads up on that. So, okay. Uh next one is just a reminder uh for those of you who signed up for the board superintendent retreat on

023Thursday. I can't go. Okay. Yep. You have to cancel me. I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. All right. I might have to take a look at that. Something else popped up for me, too. But we'll we'll chat. So, well, if you're not there, well, we'll we'll chat after. Yeah, let me Yeah, let me know. Okay, sounds awesome. Uh, next one. Uh, I was kind of explaining that. So, today uh state uh joint finance committee meeting in Hayward. It was highly gratifying of five hours of asking for supporting different funding projects within the state. Um and there was some pretty pretty decent representation from the school districts. Just talking about uh our our school funding formula. U that's I know that the governor has pushed out uh an increase in uh the per pupil aid. I know it

024went up to 325 last year. Was looking at another 105 increase uh this coming or this coming year. and then or maybe I anyways it was incremental increases from that in the next two years for the banana bianial um I know that would be supportive but the the the big one that's been out there for a while has been the special education reimbursement uh currently we're around that 30% and and the big push and that's been even before I got here the push was to get that to a 60% reimbursement rate um which for for the school district we we did the calculation and we're talking in the numbers of about $200,000 staying within our general fund if we get that reimbursement rate. So, is that on the legislaturator's agenda or is that still getting

025kicked around as of it's going back and forth? Um, that that was that was a big push. DPI going for 90%. uh the DPI, the state superintendent, uh Jill Enderly, uh and she's kind of she's kind of on her own on this. She was pushing for a 75% reimbursement rate uh first year and second year was 90%. Um versus u uh WASDA and SAA and superintendents are pushing for just get us to 60%. I mean, that's that's a significant change right there. So anyway, that that would be very beneficial for the district here, especially as we start looking at our our future budgets and some of the implications with health insurance, uh, you know, paying for staff and and other things here. So, did she get reelected then? She did. She did get reelected. So,

026anyho, that was that one. And the last one, I will have the um an updated policy for the board next month. Um the third grade advancement and summer program that was a requirement from act 20, pardon me. Uh Niola had produced a a draft policy. I'm meeting with Tom Wattry who's our Neola representative later this week uh to go over that draft policy and get some recommendation on on what this looks like. Um my recommendation is that we start that implementation September 1st of 25. Uh that means that we would have a an int we would provide an an intensive uh intervention during the summer school of 26. um if we uh implemented it on July 1st of 25, we would have to provide that this summer. And I am I don't think we are

027prepared to to do that intensive program this summer. So if if a a third grader was in jeopardy of not passing on the fourth and then because of uh and this program over the summer would help or are you contemplating making it mandatory? Well, I suppose I mean a family can decide well okay we're happy with repeating third grade or how so it with the policy it doesn't make it mandatory. I mean, we can you can make that decision if it's if we're making that mandatory or not. What what has come out with with a recommendation on policy is that a student if if they are still identified as having a personal reading plan that that continues with them and we can still do advancement from third to fourth grade and that's where it's, you

028know, coming up with the different options on what we want to have available. So, why did they choose third grade for this? The the thought process behind that is your your fundamental reading skills and development should be solid by the end of third grade. Okay? And moving into fourth grade, you you're getting into more complex with writing paragraphs and more complex reading. But you should you should have tackled uh phmic awareness, phonics, uh letter sounds, diraphs and all that scientific reading stuff. Okay. But that that that was their whole thought process here. That's just sort of a cut point that you should have, right? and and and I we we do have something on policy where talks about third to fourth grade advancement but this is getting more in depth talking about the um the

029act 20 policy and legislation. Um yeah that's the the other piece of that with with third grade that's also your first grade of capturing forward test results. So that was added into this as well. Okay, that's it then. That is it. All right. I don't think we have anybody for public comment. Do we? Sarah, are you public commenting? Okay, personnel recommendations. All right. To see that one. Yes. So, there a couple things that that uh came across and and uh one one all right, one not so all right. Um uh we have two designations, Dustin Anderson as our school counselor, uh his first year. Um and then Elena Hill as our assistant girls basketball coach, four years of service. Uh on the flip side, hiring recommendation is Jessica Johnson for a middle school, high school

030um family and consumer ed teacher and that recommendation is by hand and we've got information on the bottom for you. So, uh is there can you tell us a little bit about Jessica? Yes. So, um and that I know that's in the document below. Oh, it is. Okay. So um is uh has has u her lenture uh but is not in uh face or in family consumer head about extensive experience in uh restaurant and food preparation as well as personal care um for other people that is not her own personal Um I just wanted to clarify that. Uh so so comes with different experiences here and uh we'll be looking at trying to make sure that we support her in standing up classes. So I mean do you feel she'll be equipped to do some

031of the financial education pieces as well? That that's some of the stuff that I'll be meeting with here just to go over what what is it we're going to provide and get that settled. I mean we can cover down on the personal finance right now but the objective is to have that switched over to her program. Yeah. So absolutely. Was there any other candidate? There were um there was one that was uh that was fully lentured but uh after uh talking to previous employers it was yes that is a good way to put it. So can I get a motion to approve the resignation and hiring recommendations? So move. All in favor? I I any opposed? All right. No donations. There are no donations. Co-op renewal track and field softball, boys basketball, and girls boys

032track and field. I got a motion to approve the co-op renewal of boys and girls track, baseball, softball to submit to WA by May 1st. Oh jeez. I know. cutting it to the edge. I'll make a motion. Oh, okay. You beat me to it. I was just trying to be polite. Second. All in favor? I Any oppose? I do have a discussion. Said that before we voted. Sorry, my bad. Um, well, just a concern that I've heard from a few parents on This is particular softball was and I can't remember if we brought this up before is the uniform situation. I know, you know, we kind of split who's responsible for what. Supposedly uniforms for softball are supposed to come from Northwood and I've been told by multiple girls parents that they're pretty raggy uniforms.

033I don't know if they like who would make that request to Northwood. I think I'd mentioned it to Nate and he I think he was going to talk to their athletic director, but it it just we got to make sure that we're not, you know, leaving our students hanging with pants and all this stuff. I I will bring that up as well, the administrator. So, thank you. All right. Sports medical bays. Um once again from from our discussion it was um getting approval to uh make purchases. I did u go on and find a an example of a fully supplied kit. Not saying that's the direction we have to go, but that kind of gives us an idea of what we're looking at for expense wise. So, um, we're not necessarily looking to approve this

034$399 bag of bandages, right? That that's that's correct. Because are there some things that that are in there that probably don't need to be in there? Yes. But just to once again get an idea of, you know, what some of the costs are. This is this is one really expensive for the contents of listed there. I I will say that um this is the cheapest out of that very product. Yeah. Really? Yeah, it is. So, it's crazy. Do we ever talk to the fire department? The We've talked to them on a number of things and that's part of where I want to go, but I I I'm just wondering if they have extras that they'd be willing to donate or some of that stuff. I I would say that uh through the fire department, maybe

035not, but there might be connections elsewhere because the other piece of this is your your cold compresses, um your bandages and whatnot. You could get some of that tape, maybe not, but we can work on on pulling that stuff together. Sure. This is more of like highlighting. It's not going to be the cheapest stuff out there, but right, which you know, I mean, I was willing to spend the money. This just seemed a little excessive. Yep. And then um so five, we don't we don't typically have five sports going on at the same time. Is there How did we land on five? I was looking at both middle school and high school. Okay. So, but yeah, you could at time. So, I'm wondering if there's still if there's any in the in the sports cages

036at all because the booster club at one point had provided bags for the for the teams. So, yeah, I I mean that that's stuff we can look at. I guess what I'm looking at is the approval to make sure that we have five bags established. I and we can take a look at what we have left here. And in reality, so I was talking to Christine a little bit in not just in our heads, not just for sports bags, but if she had them together. So when if we had bags that they could use on field trips and things and if Christine had a check out and she could the groups of the that totally different topic, but let's let's chat. I move uh we make provision we provide five medical bag purchases with the

037necessary medical trainer supplies. Do I have a second? Okay. All in favor? I Any opposed? Okay. Start college. No. Got another one. Yeah, this one. Yeah, I I knew this this was going to come up. Uh policy, Scott. They just never go away. So, what happened? There was some confu and and I tried to highlight it there. There was some confusion as to who was covering the cost because once again start college now and college first. Two different programs, two different payers. Start college now goes through our the technical colleges. You the resident district pays for it. College first goes through the UW system. The enrolled district pays for them if that makes sense. So if you have an open enrolled student, the district in which that student is enrolled, that district pays for UW

038system credits. Resident district where they live, we pay for the tech tech school stuff. So this one's a perfect example of that. That is enrolled to North uh Northwestern but lives in our district. That is correct. And we have to pay for their college education. That is correct. After We yes, we accept that the the uh the requirement for them is that it's turned into the district by March 1st. And I asked that very question and I was told yes indeed the district did receive it before the March 1st deadline even though this is April. So So is thisformational? No, I think we have to vote on I mean, why why vote on it if we're required to do it? It still requires your approval. Okay. Uh because the the thing that we would have

039to take a look at is are there other classes here that are listed that are provided in the district and we do not. So, just being devil's advocate here, we both know what happens then. um there there could be some appeal of this. So um once again it's it comes it comes down to did does the district provide those same classes in house? If we pro provide them in house it's a it's a definite no. If we do not provide them that's where you get into that that that sticky situation. Ready to entertain a motion, Mr. President? Yep. I'll make the motion to approve it. Can I get a second? Second. All in favor? I Any opposed. All right. Technical policy updates. First reading. So once again, I have these on the committee of the

040whole just a lot of technical updates here with this first grouping. We expect you to read every single technical update just okay every do we pass this as a first reading and then pass it again or we deal with the motion next meeting? I can't remember. uh you have the prerogative to say there are some changes and we'll push it off to next month or we can approve it tonight. So did you read it? Mhm. Well, I'll make a motion to approval. Can I get a second? Second. Any discussion? All right. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Middle school music retirement or requirement. Sorry. So, uh, once again, this was coming back to, uh, class time or expectations for students during music instruction for middle school. U there's a couple different options. We're looking at

041something opposite of music if if we're not if we're not requiring students in middle school to attend music. I think there was some concern and we've gotten feedback too about students having uh study hall opposite of that. um where where you get into other concerns. If you offer a a course that kids want to take, you you're you're putting music your music program into a difficult situation and that's where want your feedback as far as a route we should go on this. This is something that we want to bring to the public for uh survey or getting further feedback, we can certainly do that or if you so choose one of those two options here as well. Now, is it a full year when they do the middle school or is it like half a

042year? Because I thought when I went to school like half year was me and half year was quite it was just half a week. I can't remember. Yeah, it's it's rotational during the week. Okay. Well, I think I had mentioned at the committee meeting if if appropriate um it'd be nice to hear from Miss Samborn um to to explain to the board, you know, the thought process behind correct doing this and I don't I'm not your toe. No, no, no. That and that's quite all right that that's been that's been her her premise as well as uh the vocal is that kids were not staying in the music program and they were leaving. Yeah. So that's because we were doing uh maker space opposite of that. Kids would instead of stay taking music, they would

043go and do maker space. Yeah. So yeah, because I wanted to mention, you know, I'm all for it except for the fact that if somebody's because there's tonedeaf people out there and I don't want you to fail them because they're tonedeaf, right? you know, or can't play an instrument even though they're trying, right? You know, I mean, there should be and I'm sure they're gonna grade on that they're they're given an effort, but it's that that's my whole concern. Your your grading is that is that um how how are they improving over the course of the year? So, and does she have does our current music instructor we only have one? Do they have capacity to now give music individual music lessons to the whole middle school? There there are opportunities in there. So, and

044part of that lesson could be not just individual but small group lesson too. So, and it doesn't have to be instrument too. Right. Choir, right? Well, okay. Clarify because requiring one or the other is requiring choir or band or both? One or the other. So, it so they could still have a study hall for part of the week. Well, they would remain in there. It's just you people or the students that would do both, they would be rotating between choir and band. That makes sense. Yeah. So, but you're in music the entire time, but what if they only want to do band or choir? Are we required to do both? We're not requiring them to do both. Stay in the room. They would stay in music whichever one they chose. That makes sense. So, if

045they chose band, they would be in band the entire time. that chose choir. They'd be in choir the entire time. If it was both, they would be switching back and forth. So, who's watching them when bands going on and they will only take choir? They would be in choir. So, we have a separate choir. Do we have a do we have So, that that's the plan is we would still have a separate local choir teacher. So, yeah, I I would just bring some music professional. We'll just table it the case. Yep. So then you have the instruments too. I mean muffling through enough instruments for fifth and sixth grade when they're getting the hang of things. But when you're getting to seventh and eth and you have everybody has to have an instrument and you've

046got high school kids. Not but anyway. Well, it does. Yeah, it's a valid. If you're going to make one kid be in band for choir and an adolescent boy says, I cannot sing my dad. Well, think I can't do math either. I mean, there's always a subject someone can't Well, I say can't sing because that voice change in that adolescent. Yeah. Um, soprano at the beginning of year, you you learn beginning of the year, beginning of the day, at the end. I don't know. That's why I'd say I think we need to hear from a music person. I did. The problem is those we're such a small district and if you drop them off in seventh and eighth grade and there's no continuation from elementary past that that's when we get to where well there's

047no interest then when they high school. So it's almost I don't want to say like I don't it should kind of in my in my mind it should be a requirement. It's part of the learn learn learning process. The arts are important. I just think that it should be a continuation. That's just my opinion. Um but yes of course I have no musical talent. So it's like don't make me do that for another two years because it's useless. I had no math then. I still had to take math. Yeah. But math is a little different. But not calculus. But not calculus. It's a subject, right? But you didn't have to take calculus, right? You got there was a spot where you stopped and then like Yeah. I think algebra or something. Yeah. I didn't have

048to you didn't have to take I mean the electives you don't have to take, but we'll move this discussion to next month. Okay. All right, Charlotte staff recognition process. All right, once again, we we had some discussion on this. I don't know if there's any more appetite to look at at this question as far as staff recognition process. I guess I mean there'd have to be something built as far as what are the things being met to get this and then I'm more about giving maybe a personal pay versus a stipen honestly but well there's a cost either way there is there is exactly but I just don't know I guess I'd like to see what what are the standards in order to Scott two of our educators have been recognized uh help me with

049the language guys both regionally and at a state level and once in cons was in consideration for a national award. She Yeah, she's a state finalist. State finalist. So like this is referring to this is a big deal like staff recognition isn't like coming from me. It's saying outside entities have said wow there's some old monitors here. So the question is, should we follow that up with some type of time or financial gift? And I did ask at my finance meeting last month with the other educa uh finance people from the other schools, no one does any financial. They're like, we're trying we're trying to trying to fund everything we we need to fund now and without going going outside of that. So there were not any schools in that group that do that. We'd

050be pioneers. Yes. The vanguard. Um just I don't normally like to draw from personal experience, but since I have two kids that are are teachers, I asked them both and they both overwhelmingly said, "Oh, we'd rather have uh money than a day off." Okay. So that's just a very small sample, but um maybe we query our staff. I I don't I don't know. I mean, we have some staff here. Would you rather have a day off or have you know money for if you got some I think well money you're taxed on, but a day off you aren't. So just different. I think everybody's in it differently. All right. Well, um certainly the the two teachers that we had that are being recognized I certainly those two events would qualify thing. Yeah. Well, I just

051outside organizations that are because we're the only thing is we're opening up a door here. So, we got to figure out what what opens that door. Yeah. you know, well, it could be recognition outside of our district. Okay. At least a place to start. I'm just I guess I'm just looking for guidance on this. Yeah. So, let's start with that. Get some more questions answered and bring it up the next committee meeting. All right, monthly collaborative teacher time. So once again, this was a proposed plan. Uh but that doesn't mean that has to be it. Uh I just want to once again get your appetite for this. Is it something that we want to take a look at um and come up with some you know a few different solutions or not if if if

052the board is not if there's no appetite on the board to look at different options I just want to know that. So, so professional development day, it's a nice phrase. What What are we What are we looking at that? What does that entail? So, a professional development day. Um there there's a few things that occur. I know that uh our ELA work this year, there was quite a bit of our professional development time that was dedicated towards uh ELA standards. Um uh ELA um your learning objectives and aligning different uh standards across the board. So there's plenty of things that get plugged into our professional development days, but we would dedicate time towards those vertical discussions. So how do we do it now without doing that the half day right every other month? We we

053really don't get much for that time because our our professional develop gets we can dedicate some time to it but it it's lacking when it comes to the amount of time we get to spend actually discussing across the board with our with our vertical teams let alone uh our specials with special education um and other providers. So it could be an internal it it would be. Yes. Okay. So no one's going home on Friday afternoons. No dedicated time to be That's That's correct. Okay. What would we do about the coaches sports and coaches and kids? They send them home on the bus and they come back for practice. That's some fine fine points that we would have to work through. I guess the where I'm going is it would um I'm more worried about the

054games and practices honestly because I mean if you're talking one day in September, one in December, one in February which February you could if you do it towards the end of the month. What do you mean by that? Like they'd miss a game or they have to go home? They'd have to go home and come back for a game or go back to get on the bus or whatever. So which if it's a home game and they're going home then coming back anyway is for the most part. So that's not a big deal. But yeah, so that that's some of the logistics that we would have to work out as far as that coverage. Comment is that and you could just say you tell me not take it from Mhm. adding five minutes to the

055end of the day. Um really just it just seems like educationally our kids they're not going to get anything by that. We're meeting the state requirement. But I So can we add 15 minutes per day and then does it what do you do with support staff, right? Because then are we extending dollars for additional time for them to be in the building? No, because the I mean it's a good question, but I'm not looking at those vertical team discussions necessarily have support staff there. So they but the extra five minutes a day adding Yep. they're staying. That's stuff that we would have to look at. So that adds Once again, this was a wait and I like it. So we're just we're just basically you're asking us for proceed to find a way to do

056this. Yes. And then you bring it back to us on which way you decided different options. Different options. Okay. Because I I brought it up with staff, but I want to pose that again to leadership there other ideas and things that we have to crack. So Okay. So, do you need a motion or if we just tell you to go ahead and figure this out and bring us back with some that would be sufficient. Everybody okay with that? Yep. I thought you look for a motion to move. Yeah. All right. Refer referendum consideration for future building needs and additions. Approval to send out requests for proposals with facility study. All right. In this process to referendum, it is wise for us to get an outside agency to conduct an actual building study to determine what's

057what is it with our facilities that is good, what needs attention. Um, and what are some things that we should look at if we're pushing forward with the requirement? Um, I I think that's just wise. I I'm not questioning Mark's ability, but it's good to have an outside agency take a look at the big picture and provide feedback on all of the facility. I think that's one of our first things as we look at our timeline to push forward. Uh because if there are things that weren't identified previously and we do this study and then we identify it, then that has to be part of that discussion, right? What needs to be tackled with our current facility. What kind of expense are you that uh that I don't know right off hand once again this

058is approve approval to seek bids for that okay it's not approval it's not approval of no taking that step no what I want is the step to actually send request for bids are we on board with that do Do you want a motion on that? Yes, please. Can I get a motion for that, please? I'll make a motion. All right. Can I get a second? All in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Staff contract approval based based on the uh percentage. Um, those are the numbers there. We talked about a 3% CPI increase. So, we're at 3% across the board. Yes, sir. Okay. Oh, I might scroll up when I first um so there's a line highlighted in yellow. Yes, that's that's for discussion during our close session. Okay. Okay. Can I get a motion

059to approve the staff contracts for distribution? I'll make the motion. Second. Any discussion? All in favor? I I. Any opposed? All right. Monatory teacher assistant compensation and training plan. Is this is this based on a percentage? How do we Oh, are we on something? Okay, I'm behind you. Rarely do we get ahead of you, John. So, it makes me feel good. I think this Okay, I got it. Okay. Wasn't the fundraising part of this though, too? Or what what's the Right. That that was some discussion of this. Um I guess not getting to this as far as how how that recruitment goes. I'm wondering if this is a track that we want to go down. Is this what the the board entails? Yes. The the governance board would be part of that fundraising and that's

060what they've talked about fundraising for teachers. But I'm I'm pushing this with with the board to is this a plan or a proposition that you're willing to support and have the governance board work out the final, you know, the details of it. Would you have the percentage put the percentage in there the same percentage that the teachers are required to do? And that that's that's open for discussion here. So the teachers are required to cover a percent, right? That that is correct. So I'm not seeing a percentage in what I'm reading. It is not. Got it. Um and when uh is there a pay raise for getting a certification? That was not that's no bas there there is nothing in the current model for taking care of certification let alone pay increase. So, in my

061opinion, if we require educators to pay for the certification, then when they get it, they see a pay raise. That's that's kind of the natural way the world works. But if we pay for it, we we don't have to offer that pay raise. I am very very leerary of fundraising. I think fundraising leads to mission drift faster than anything. And we have a job here to educate students, right? Not coordinate students into raising money for educator. That is great. Check. No. And and just so we're clear, this would be the governance board would have to do all the fundraising for that piece. So, but I understand what you're saying to push back. Yeah. But who's we're a small community? Yeah. No, I I I get it. I'm just clarifying who would be responsible for it.

062So, yeah. Which Yeah, it's it's it's more adults shaking down kids to go do fundraising. And I think we have way too much of that. and not enough. I guess I would like I would like to see a cost of the training associated with if we funded it fully then we wouldn't give them a raise or if we funly partially and we give them a raise. What's the difference there? And we don't have a raise that we give for any extended education in any level right now. But we we pay for a big chunk of that, right? That education. That's where we're talking about with this. If we we pay 75% of a master's degree cost. No, that's just the cost of a course up to x amount of credits. So we do not pay

063if they get their master's degree degree, they do not get an increase in pay. Yeah. But my thing is technically they can still do the job without that technically they could still do the job without that training as a pair, right? Because we're talking about the paras here. It's Yes. Well, just to clarify, teacher assistance in the monastery classrooms. The part of the discussion we had earlier in the month is that when there is no SAB available, the person that picks up is the teacher assistant. And if we're requiring that, should should that person have a certification in monastery? That was the question. And then if we're requiring that, then what does this look like? Yeah. And that's where this is coming out, right? So when they fill in as that teacher, are they getting

064a bump for that day at all? Do you know or not? There there is not at this point in time. Okay. And and I I think we need to take one step at a time. Are we going to require this piece? That's the first question and that's what I'm trying to answer. and then we can talk about other options if that comes up. But first things first, are we requiring teacher assistance to have that certification? If so, what's the parameters to this? Are we, if we're paying for it, are we requiring a commitment to the district? Do we have any data on how often we're asking teacher assistants to fill in as teachers? I can give more data to you. And every year is going to be different. Yeah. You know, right? So that that's

065that's where where it's hard. I mean it it's if it's infrequent and it's not only in the monastery. Well, but this is right. But I'm just saying when you're looking at the whole big picture, it's not only the monastery that it would only help the kids. I can say if we did this, right? It won't necessarily help them if we don't do it because it could set not necessarily set them back, but it could lose a day of class because they aren't doing it right or aren't really knowledgeable on it. Right. It's it's not effective and I think it puts that teacher assistant in a bad place when they're not certified. So, Mr. superintendent would a certified teacher assistant would they have would there be a benefit during a whole year even if the teachers

066there because that absolutely it I I think it adds to the efficiency because the teacher assistants know what the setups are they know what the learning object or the the learning process in the monastery program or is when they go through that certification when they're not they're constantly behind it would seem really almost almost a matter of ethics honesty to like if we if you have my kid when you do have my kid in Monosur to have monosur trained educators so it seems the right thing to do is require this and then we we figure the plan out right and only monastery has a teaching assistant that is correct and that's where I was saying uh during the committee the whole that in that charter world we can get away with that. In our other

067locations, we cannot. So, so I'm okay with requiring it. Just figuring out the details is the next part. Okay. Whether we're going to cover it partially, whatever there whether they're going to get a pay bump if they're working that day or whatever, I don't know. That's I guess that would be more governance board for that to iron that out and bring it back to us. That is correct. Has the governor they've gone back and forth on this and that's where we have to settle this and and and once again that's where I'm trying to get your Have they made a recommendation the governance board? They're split. They're they are split on this right now. Okay. And that's that. So where are the final where are the final bullets? It'll it'll have to come to to

068the regular board here anyway. Chief, sorry. Did we talk about numbers of what we think this costs what we think the projected cost for this would be? Each level is a little bit uh more expensive, but you're talking anywhere from what is it 2,000 to 3500 depending on the level per assistant for to get certified. That is correct. So, it's not a huge four levels. Uh three three children's children's house E12 just apologize I should know this is that three then that we're trying to certify or does does like E2 have two teacher assistants so it the way it will balance out you will have one two and two five five total sounds aizable commitment how many are We know that three three out of the five. Yeah. So, we're talking Well, in that case,

069two people being that there's already three certified, I would say the other two need to be certified to stay in the position, but the other two are certified just in a different level, right? Yeah. So, they're certified there. There's different certifications, but I think it should be universal. Just keep everybody the same. That way then you know where everybody sits as far as where they need to be. Well, okay. Each level has their own training. Well, I understand that, but I mean as far as everybody needs to be certified, period. Okay. Yep. Not a partial certification or whatever. Whatever that I'm not sure what talking about. They're somewhat certified or something. Well, we we do have staff members that are certified, but the level that they're at or going to be going to, they do

070not hold that certification. So, who makes the decision to move someone who's certified in children's house to say next year we're going to put you in E1. It's a crazy time, John. And that's what we're trying to do is get this leveled out and maintain some consistency here because it has been all over the place. Yeah. So, and that's part of this is if if we're going to do this that we're saying this is our commitment. You're going to be in here and this is the duration you're committing to the district. And then to honor that the best. Yeah. So to me I I if we if we make the investment and someone get uh certified in E1 or E2 or whatever Y and then the individual says well I think next year I'd really

071like to do children's. So, and and if we say, well, okay, but we want you to get certified, but now if you've already sort of paid or invested in one, the second certification, that's your choice, your decision. I don't I don't think we need because otherwise we could churn through all three levels. Right. Right. And and there there has to be some parameters to Yes. So, so are we I guess we need a motion, but not the one that's written here. assistant teachers compensation and training. Um, you want to do it just a motion that they should be they should that teacher assistant should be serification check and and where I was going with this with the compensation is that paid for the classes. If we're if if the board is unwilling to look at

072how that's being taken care of, that's fine. We can push that to another time. But what you're saying is we're just requiring that certification. Yep. And then we'll work on the finance piece. Now that we've broken their deadlock, they can come back with something there. They're do it. So you I'll make the motion to make it a requirement to be for a teacher assistant to be certified. Second. Okay. Any other discussion on it? All in favor? I. Any oppose? All right. All right. We're going to convene into close session pursuant to Wisconsin statutes 19.851c to consider employment, promotion, compensation, or performance evaluation data of any public employee which over which the governmental body has jurisdiction or exercises responsibility. So move second. Oh yeah. All in favor? I I Any votes? Scott, second. You beat her

073just barely. Step your game up with me. Sorry. With an age. That was good. I think smart guy. Yeah, he's looking sideways.

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