001no homework that's one of my kids blaz and Sil are in one a class together and it seems like there's a test every week it's like oh man that's all you guys do is take tests guess the upside is that it's a short short chapter sometimes that's better because you have less time to have to try and remember things yeah all right call the meeting into order me as a whole at 6:04 p.m. and roll call John here Ben here Britney here and myself Brad is here Keith is absent tonight can I get a motion to approve the agenda so move all in favor I I any oppos okay uh student staff Community recognition anything don't see anything on there um nothing there the the only thing that that I would like to recognize is
002the uh girls basketball team and and their Regional Victory y so super excited about that and yeah moving on to Thursday I'm surprised we didn't have to use an AED that night yeah it was pretty tense and our Sergeant at Arms been so and in in this um and as it's recording here uh the superintendent from Clayton did call and wanted to thank us for the job well done and taking care of those those students that were not being were not being nice what we'll just say that and you know people spring into action and Ben I know that you ho down there and tried to assist as well so I I think it's just a real telling way that our our staff knows what to do in those types of situations and we had
003community members that stepped up knowing that that's just not what what goes on here so I just want to give some kudos to those people for for doing the job that needed to be done when it needed to be done right right and then just for the general public they weren't Solen students y right that's good absolutely all right 30 60 90day plans anything that needs to be highlighted here or uh no not necessarily uh other than uh once again uh Friday we have our family math and reading at 1 and uh we've got a number of businesses that have stepped up in are leading different stations it's it's great to see that willingness to participate and be involved with our with our students and famili so uh super excited about that and then if
004you are available please I encourage you to stop by that 11: 1 one 1 1 to 3:30 so and that's uh once again the focus is our elementary students so all right moving on certified employee compensation all right um I know we had this on on the doc last month and um you know uh Leanne and I have really taken a look at it and it's very complicated and I guess where where I'm looking at this is you know first things first you know looking at the increase for this year and I I think um if if we want to hold to CPI increase um I think the the official is it's like right at or just under 3% I think it would be wise for us to stay within that um but it was
005more of that leveling of people based on um years of experience and um uh level of Education uh you know trying to figure out what's what's the best fit to get things in line because we we haven't had a a guideline for hiring new people we try to get it matched in with where people are but but when it comes right down to it you know what what does the board see as important is is is education an important piece to this mix or not you know you know because some some districts they offer more for people that have a master's degree is that important here and and that kind of leads into when we do new hires H how do we determine you know what to bring them in at and you know is
006there a process that we should have in place and saying this is this is this is the limit that we're going to if it goes beyond that then other people need to be involved um I would say a past practice is that um uh me as a as as a principal a director I I was given certain parameter or certain leeway as far as what I could offer a person but once it went beyond that and and we wanted to pursue hiring that person it had to go to both the superintendent and the the board president saying yes that's okay or no it's not you know I I'm just wondering if if if we should be looking at something like that I know I would like to have some clear guidance and some parameters as
007to how how we go about that um because it just makes it smoother and cleaner and and there's more dialogue and we're we're able to bring out people in in a more graduated fashion that isn't that that's kind of honoring the people that have been here for a while is I think that's where where you get into this mix you you change this up and you start bringing in people at a higher rate and then the people that have been here for a while it's not the same right so I guess that's what I'm looking for in this so you know I had the all all these wonderful scales on there the last time just as far as options and whatnot and as I reflected on this more I think it was it's better for
008us to maybe just step back a minute and let's establish just some par MERS as to bring in new hires what does that look like right okay and then we can start because if if we're going to try to even stuff out with our current staff we we just don't have enough money to do that all now I mean that's I mean you're you're you're you're playing with things a little bit I think we can we can work on that on a yearly basis to try to even this out but one of my oh sorry go ahead one of my questions I have two questions yeah um I might be operating on the wrong model I was under the impression from my other previous experience on this board that yeah some positions are harder to
009find and harder to fill so we need to pay more to recruit and keep is that how do you how does that is that a would you agree with that I I think there is that potential yes but that's what I'm getting after is establishing some some Pro process and procedure on on or or some prameters as to what we're offering people when they're coming in and if we're not coming to an agreement what are the next steps here sure okay and that that's you know the reason I brought that up is because when you talk about leveling out yeah and that seems to contradict the idea of some some degree some positions will get paid more just because they're harder to find that's I'm having I understand what you're saying it's and I would
010say is it necessarily the position or is it bringing in people I would say yes there are some positions that are more challenging to fill but but I I guess as a board are are you accepting of of that that we bring in these people that pass should say these people we bring in teachers of low density uh areas at a higher price or a higher wage and not have some equality with the people that are already here you know that I guess I I I would feel more comfortable getting your take on how we should proceed with this we did do some charting to see where all of our staff fall right now and yeah so so trying to make a clear chart go back and make a clear chart take a little I
011was under the impression we didn't have a choice I mean we have to fill a position if we want this position filled we need to pay a competitive rate so that might be a wrong assumption I guess is what I'm asking it's it's it's multi-layered is what I'm getting at and that's where I'm going back because I what I was talking about is it clear Compensation Plan across the board M so it would be kind of guiding all of our staff members and that's where we talked about kind of leveling up based on a an actual pay scale across the board but what I'm saying is stepping back and looking at what are some parameters that we want to have in place when determining what what is our limit with some of these people and
012I I don't feel like it should be just me in that right because I'm I'm I'm working for you guys in this and that's where I'm I'm stepping back and I want to put together like a table that provides some guidance but then the the procedure right just percentage maybe because of that's a right and and and having some parameters if if if we're not able to come to agreement Within These parameters that that's established what's the next step got it okay well those some pretty doable options yeah I I think that that's why I'm saying stepping back I think that that is the big Crux of our our issues right now that is L us into you know some of our current situation where our staff are across the board um and I think
013that's far more doable versus trying to level everyone and get everything in place I still think we can work on some of that and and tweak this a little bit but parameters when we're hiring people is is what I'm really looking for so no I'm okay with doing that kind of a thing honestly just I don't know what those parameters would necessarily be as far as numbers wise right but I'm okay with like let set of bottom number and then like minimum that we bring somebody on period I think we should have that no matter what position we we pretty much out exactly right and then we got to figure out okay say there's only two people in the state that do do this job well that I'm exaggerating um I'm not sure how you
014would figure that in right that type of well but the the other question is you know when we were talking about this it do we give more difference to those that have a higher education level or notan I think that's normal you would pay someone with a masters more than you would someone with The Bachelor the hard part is when you look at it's some of these areas when there's okay so sorry we have in one group we have three people teaching the same thing and they're if they are at different levels of Education that they have if one has just a ba and one has a master's and they are all doing the same thing then we need to look at that too sure but you look at any large school that has five
015English teachers five this 5 10 whatever they they tend to teach the same thing but they're going to get compensated different based on the effort they put in to to increase their education level and that's where and and if someone thinks well why are they getting paid more the answer is simple they have a master's you want to get that level of pay go and get do what they did um and and attain the higher level of Education um I I I mean I can see there's where I think where there's going to be a problem when you start valuing a teaching subject over something else as opposed to education level right and that that's where things have gotten you know as as lean mentioned uh when Act 10 went out you know a lot
016of the pay scales I shouldn't say a lot a number of them disappeared or it changed right um but then the other piece of that is you're dealing with yeah your teacher shortage and that that's where it gets really challenging you know I I'm super thrilled that we have applicants for for our face position that's hard to find right it's just plain and simple so so when we go about that hiring process do and our C you know the candidates that we have we have someone that says yeah I'll take that job and they have a master's and they want x amount of money and it's well above what we're paying everyone else how do we proceed with that you know that's well I mean when Act 10 went out then I mean or in
017uh every teacher is a free agent it it is and there is no right but but there have to divide yeah and that that's it it's trying to get some solid footing as to how we go about determining what we're going to offer and what we're willing to accept and what we're not willing to accept right and that and that's what I want to get to here is just more clarity on it okay um right now you you look at at our our current situation with with staff it's kind of all over the place when when we're talking just Bachelors or Masters or this position or that position you know so I do we pay for any of the Master's education for our staff so um correct me if I'm wrong this would fall into
018that that credit reimbursement correct so we're paying for part of the education that we give them the pay raise for we could potentially well I I should say that because without a pay scale we don't have a a lane bump right so so in in Ence we're giving reimbursement for anyone and it's not it's not necessarily increasing their pay just because they've completed when correct when the pay scale was in place yes so we would help them pay for that education and then we would give them more money be beyond that when we do that is there anything in the contract say you have to stay with us for so long no no but that that's that's another topic you know yeah I would like hate to pay for somebody's and you know Masters and
019then now that I got my masters I'm going to go to this school they'll pay anywh right that kinde of thing I I I think if if we want I think that's something that we can put on the timing S I mean stinks because we we got to determine that if if we're going to put that into next year's contracts because you know April is the time that I need to start or get that stuff taken care of right um but I I would say that that's another topic we should be talking about but I I don't want to clear that I don't want to muddy it up when do you envision the board either building or blessing a the protocols that you just talked about with your left hand and the pay scale that
020you talk you both very important things are you hoping by the end of the March meeting I by the end of the March meeting I would like to have some a good guidance as to what the parameters are for hiring okay that's that I think is pretty doable that's are you also hoping we Implement some type of is that called PA SK I'm not sure what it's called I I think getting some guidance so we can start we can start working on that a little more to start moving some stuff but I I don't see us fully implementing unless it's it's clearly stated this is guidance but then you you're still going to create some issues because people are going to say wait a minute I'm I'm not at where I should be yeah you're
021right we're working towards that and I think this is I know staff is asking for it or some staff are but it's it's a far more complex situation right now right and that's that's why I I backed off a little bit and said let's get some guidance first and bringing new people in and and what we're willing to do or not do and then you know we'll start working on the rest of that stuff so that's just my thoughts but once again you know do we want to have like a base like a brand new teacher with no experience teacher with a bachelor and some experience person with a masters and some you know that I guess that's what I'm asking for are are we are we are we honoring that additional s or that
022additional uh knowledge and education or not we have to honestly because that that hasn't been a guide previously I I I think we do especially for picking in a teacher that's already has like 10 years under their belt teaching we can't bring them in at the same rate as and even though we haven't had a a chart on that we have kind of match done that when that has been presented to us that well I have this many years of experience so then we try to look at similar Staffing in that range and and go and I would say that we do the same thing in my opinion we do the same thing as far as somebody's coming in with experience yeah we should have some kind of a okay this is where our number
023is plus or minus 5% yeah and and that's that and that's fine the the next the next question that goes into that then too is I might have worked in a couple districts where they they had some type of scale and they had the steps in that or whatever so you'd honor like was bachelor's plus some some credits and then a masters but then when it came to years of experience uh my last District it was you reached five that was your top number and if it went beyond that that's where it would initiate the next step and and involved like the the soup and the and the board president and whatnot do we want to have something similar to that or do we want to honor all of their years of experience because I
024will tell you you're talking about like doing a band 0 to 5 6 to 10 Etc and then those would be right once you're in that band then you you you'd have a certain pay bump and it's this would just be starting out yeah so oh just starting just starting out um because I I I will say if you bring in someone that's got 20 years of experience that's that's some significant sticker shock right yeah I but I I that's the other piece of this that I want some guidance on but presumably you're getting a more valuable teacher well there might be a reason why you're getting some of your 20 years experience too in that one spot you know why do they coming in are they leaving just I mean there may be a
025benefit for them just moving here because they want to be out of the city or something I don't know is it 20 years of experience of one place or is it 20 years of experience over five places yeah or 20 places soes doesn't always right so because that that will help that'll help Le and myself that seems like a wise thing to try to build as messy and murky and we don't know what's going on in the state supreme court anyways like seems like a wise direction is to move in that yeah and it just builds some consistency when we're bringing people in but I I guess just once again that are we are we looking at a certain cap um where we're going to initiate the next step when it comes to the board
026or do we does it matter I I guess what it's coming down to is years of experience does it matter do we want to try to match years of experience or we want to say no this is your band this is what we're going to offer and if they want more then we'll go to that next step whatever makes you feel comfortable because it has an extra layer for you well it's it's not just for me it's it's also for the record here too yeah um oh would you say anything over 10% of what uh whatever you have planned out for those years if they're asking like 10 more than 10% or 5% or is that kind of thing you're looking for or or just the fact that we'll come to like you'll go to
027you or then me or right right you know I guess that's what I'm looking at is you know I said with the last district there was you know you had honor the education piece but then you'd only go up so many years of experience and then I think you need an additional approval after I think that's fine we should do that and then if it comes down to the president being uncomfortable not doing it on his own then they would have to be a board decision if it's if it's R you know spectacular so I my only comment to that is I think that now sometimes when you got a good fish on you want to get landed yeah so make it a system that right board president superintendent principal or whoever check yeah make
028the decision I think the less layers you have when I say when I say ridiculous like we're talking tens of thousands of dollars difference you know y but that but that's it is I I'm I'm just looking for guidance to put something together here know some different options here I think that I I I like that we ask you do you ask president yeah okay I think that work better okay I I will'll work on drafting some stuff up for that good back on Wednesday or WN yes have it done by Wednesday 24th anything else on this one that is all I have okay volunteering options I uh put this on there uh I know there's been a few different things um and I I think there have been a number of well I would
029say people in the community and then some some individuals in in the district asking about you know we remove the requirment but feeling like you know having an outlet to to uh support civic duty is a good thing so I guess that's what I'm I'm looking at and I don't know if you had other information Britney that you wanted to share on this I was just yeah I was just reading down the list right now didn't we leave the volunteer opportunities there and we just removed the we we mandatory right we we left it that students could gain a half credit if they had the hours to it and I'm just it was just a question to bring up if we want to entertain other thoughts and ideas on volunteerism that doesn't go into that
030line so that's it so let me connect the do this is related to our mission vision and values was that my Miss was that why this is on the agenda it was it was some questions that came up and I know it was asked to just to bring it back on further dialogue if if there are other thoughts or options that we want to consider to to help promote uh volunteerism that doesn't create a requirement well I think by offering the half credit is is the the incentive the incentive I mean beyond that talk about how stretched every most of our students are right with multiple Sports and and just a lot of other things so um I mean they're not asking us to I don't know who what are they asking for I think
031the idea was to have this like during the school day like have it be part of I want to say part of the curriculum but part of one of the events or couple of the events that are happening throughout the year and then just have like Transportation provided or whatever give the kids some options as to what they'd like to engage in okay I didn't I didn't catch that yeah well I mean lucious Woods during the summer so yeah that's about the only option really around here anyways but it it comes down to this you know I mentioned it previously about the the possibility of like a a u service learning day and that would involve all students during the school day and it would we would look at different uh we would engage different
032entities in in the community here on ways that we can whether it's like a one just a one day spring kind of what Joanne's doing with has been doing with seniors right right where she would do a highway cleanup yeah so this would be multiple different things um n this goes back to my enrichment days we had uh individuals that went out with the DNR and was uh was clearing a site from you know with a Buckthorn clearing Buckthorn out of a site and and uh other clean up areas or doing improvements in in certain entities of the of the community so I mean there there are different options here I guess I just wanted to see if there was any support or or what requirement for that so I'm supportive right yeah here's the
033here's the the tug of-war in my inner person is academic riger matters act res you know test scores matter GPA matters man that's our job as a district when we pull kids out to do things like hey you guys were not naughty let's go have a reward day just kind of Chews at me a little bit like what are we taking them away from sure academic learning are we are we hitting the benchmarks as a district in terms of academic achievement sure school report card which is not just academics but that that's I struggle not doing academic work right and and I understand where you're coming from and you know I guess this goes back to that the the changing environment of academics and the schools what do you mean by that meaning um for
034instance when when we went through school there was nothing related to PBIS or positive behaviors right you're just like you go to class do what you're told get your homework done bam right but I I will say that the Dynamics of where our kids are coming from the experiences they have is vastly different from what we've experienced right and I I will say even more so the these things have not been conducive to community engagement and volunteerism and how we fit as members of our community and that's I guess that's the only reason I bring this up I I will I will gladly do what you guys tell me to do here but I also look at we we have a different demographic than what we've experienced so well I look at the last maybe
035two weeks is too long but last week and a half school when testing's done everything's done there's not a lot of learning going on at that point I mean it's it's watching this or what once we get into that pocket of time where where the academic year is really done even though we've got another week and a half to go I would be supportive fitting it into that time frame for a day right and you could still make it a learning EXP erience yeah I I I will say yeah absolutely in order to do some of the projects that would be necessary you would have to do it that yeah right and that's honestly when I've seen it is late in the game yeah I mean we have a teacher here that you know your
036last week or so you there are I assume you can afford a day where everybody did something he's teaching till cow's go there are some there are some teachers that are teaching to the last belt it is so I I mean typically yeah that's going to be the time where it's like well how how deep do you want to go because you know that like everything you assign you want to have to be able to give some feedback on but the T you know the clock's ticking so you you you have to come to some sort of end and you know I teach middle schoolers and it's not just oh we're going to have a free day today that doesn't that doesn't work so well yeah so for me it would be better to have
037some sort of programming MH in that sense where you could say okay this is our plan for today um and this is if it's a community based we're going to go you know what if it's by high school middle school elementary you know however we want to set it up but this this group is going to go here and this is what they're going to do you know there are some you know management pieces that we'll have to go along with that which which we understand that some you take kids out of the building and be harder than having them in the building you're going to have all hands on deck because trying to sort of supervise 20 kids in some you know community garden cleanup or something and and people are all over um
038so that that's the other piece that I would be a little concerned with yeah it's easier to do it when everybody's in the room but now when everybody's this way y that's that's understandable uh um in in my waiting years in shelik there was a full District uh service learning day and it involved all levels and it it went very so yeah and I you know when the weather turns I mean I I get to be dying to get outside and do something but you never know what the weather's going to be towards the end of the are yeah always so rain Co or garbage bags with a hole there three anyway so anyway just throwing this out there just knowing that you know this this is still a topic that that's come up because
039it we kind of went cold turkey on it in some sense right and um and and I don't I don't want to lose the connection with students in the community for the record I appreciate your wrestling with this like I'm not against it just one no and I I understand and that's that's why I want to bring that up and and and get full guidance here so okay in some aspects I think it's just as important to have learning in the community that you have sitting at a desk because sitting at a desk what do you what are you writing about or what do you have what kind of for knowledge do you have if you haven't gotten out in your community and you haven't experienced some things you know we as adults we've got
040enough life experience now but I think the idea would be give the kids some of that too so they can see oh this is what you do as a Community member you know and I guess that was my thought behind it or give them something to look forward to um show them that this can be fun you know it's not just something oh we got to do this service day you know um but sometimes some of the service days you get those kids out there doing those things and they're like oh well now we're down setting up chairs for the music in park in the park who ever thought I wouldn't think about going to a concert in the park this is really cool maybe I would want to do something in this line going
041on our our ski trips it's like oh experiences kids have never had and maybe that's something they're like oh I would love to be able to teach kids how to ski so all of those things can be part of the learning process for our children not just learning your Basics it's learning those outside CH that yeah I'm good at teaching some of that to my kids but I can't do Cal like that's where if you guys that's that's that's the balance right I and I'm it's a we on and amisten I'm not argu I understand the time constraints on some of those things too but I have both of my girls were in ALA Sports they were high honors they had jobs and yet it was not a problem for them fitting in the time
042to go and do volunteer things that would not have did we have volunteer hours did we have to have when we graduated I don't I don't remember I don't remember turning in anything for that I didn't have any specific thing it it wasn't the requirement that it was leading like when you know a couple my kids gradu we didn't have to document anything to be able to graduate the late 990s yeah late 90s yeah cuz did you Brad you you didn't have anything no I don't know when that actually Britney did you okay but you know you're so young they were I think they were counting like if we had a job at the time counting job hours the the hour requirement was was higher so then they cut back on on what that was
043and went okay so it's x m so over 9 10 11 12 to to average that over the years it wasn't that hard to get that each year I mean and you could do such a broad variety of things they did not yeah we past yeah yeah on sorry very i' I've I've heard from people from the community to that are also were very disappointed that we lost that and obviously I'm very yeah probably people that were getting work done for them no no no okay it was people that had children that they had volunteering like at the the music in the park and things like that it wasn't it wasn't people that were well they could still do that but sometimes we're just not making them sometimes getting getting people to take those opportunities
044is harder when it's not something that's but that's not the school's responsibility to do that that would be the parents responsibility to teach I it is but it's it ours is the teaching arithmetic reading that type of thing we do also do extra I know that but their focus is that right I I I I hear we we at and I think if we can have if we can look at something that's planned out that promotes that Community engagement I think is good but that's once again that's why I brought that okay all right Early Childhood or early credit yeah early college credit and start college now ah all right so just for clarification uh applications are due to the district March one oh re these so these came to the district prior to March
045one there are two dat um I I did receive them prior to March 1st which was Saturday is there just not to get too involved in that but is there any what was March is there something magical about March 1 the funding part or no it it's it's what's established by a law so it is okay all right so it's March 1st and October 1st and and it was I had it before that it had to get to the School of Choice by that time I was wrong yeah so it needs to be to the district by March 1st or October 1st okay and these work so yes right do we need action no no action is necessary at this time okay mer rookie funds okay we've got a couple fund requests might have a
046coach involved here but um ly swinging bag I'm surprised we don't have one of these you have a pitching machine for baseball so softball has purchased a couple of pitching machines over the years I think that the big issue has been the quality of what was purchased and because it was of a lower quality um it doesn't work as well sure hold up when baseball we we bought one with our activity fund two years ago and and we bought a really good one and it's it's a in great shape so um I I think it's one of those things you get what you pay for got it and um I I haven't looked into this one very very closely um but 11 $1,100 off the price that I see online so yeah yeah is that
047what yeah cuz I saw that I think that the discrepancy yeah when I just linked that um yeah they wanted what 35 or 3,400 from BSN um and then the quote that the that they got was 20 something so um and I know that it's you know it does get a little tricky with our especially in spring because all of our sports are co-opt and technically softball is not our our sport that we host but I I think that just like our other sports I I think we're going to especially for the the girls I I think they're in a position that the more we invest in them I think the better things are going to be yeah and and I know that sometimes especially when it comes to equipment like we have hauled our
048pitching machine down to Northwood and and it's a pain right it's it's big it's bulky this isn't as big and bulky as the one that we have for baseball but even if we had one that was for here and stayed here um we use it in the gym we use it down on the field you know I think that's a win for our kids here and whether they are able to transport it to Northwood also um I think that would be a good addition is Northwood responsible to provide uniforms for the softball team yes so when we when we set up the the co-op and the way that we did um Northwood handled the softball part of it and then handled the baseball part of it and we you know there was a lot of
049discussion of like well how do you do that you know and we just said it's probably the easiest to just do a complete separation as if it was just your score as just like we fund everything when it comes to baseball and what for softball is what is it's just like baseball doesn't exist for them and it's like softball doesn't exist with our with our pieces all right just because it does get a little muddy then it's like and you know lean I think the first time that we were trying to figure out okay well here's a game that's happening we're hosting a game here well who's paying the umpires like are we are we paying for the softball umpires and the Baseball umpires like we would have before or are we paying for the
050Baseball umpires and Northwood paying for the softball umpires and then they're bringing checks up to handle that so it was just when we talked about it's just easier to just do it a clean break and CU I've heard uh that the softball team is due for new uniforms and and and person I was talking to well that's usually the school well okay but and then was like well that's Northwoods yep responsibility so maybe that's a athletic director discussion yeah and that you know that gets to be the the the case too like you know where how many teams we have in our rotation might be different than how many teams that they in their rotation you know we we've tried to take Middle School out of that rotation just because you know came leftovers middle
051schoolers do they typ do they need new uniforms every five or six years likely you know so we take them kind of out of that rotation but for the high schoolers you know yeah yeah they you know the sooner the better because of you know especially when you're sweating and sliding and yeah tearing them up you know and and I know Northwood um they did football last year and that was a giant that's a giant cost for them because of the number of uniforms and they were they were going double you know because some of our sports like volleyball we buy one Jersey and that's that's it you know you don't have to have two sets of uniforms like you do for you know you don't have to have a woman in away uniform so
052that you know I don't know if this is a I think it's a lean question or you question but is there I assume there's plenty of money in this account for both of these purchases do we ever carry a b bance on that or is it we just spend everything that year no we carry the balance on that we have it in a separate fund so we can carry that over in a different fashion okay do we need to act on this tonight because the sports are starting soon this is informational I think it there's nothing saying that you can't act on it the the whole purpose was to present stuff and provide that dialogue and interaction yeah because you got practice to starting what yeah that I mean that that's where it's a little
053tricky doing this in March is that softball practice starts March 17th so spring break we I just GNA say if it if it isn't um approved until the board meeting that's the 24th and softball would be one week into practice and that's the first day of baseball practice which you know well they got to order and get it here well right that's what I'm saying like yeah it could be halfway through the season before they get my bias unless you guys are uncomfortable because this is supposed to be information meeting but I would like to act on this so we if we but well are you okay I move we purchase so so you so you approve the purchase request thank you I approve yes exact that could have said it better myself clearly can
054we get a second I'll second it all right any other discussion on it all in favor I I any opposed all right and then in the future I think uh what we'll do is we we'll try to have to or we'll have to amend that timeline maybe move it to February instead of March yeah okay yeah because you know with doing it this way it I think it's good because it it makes our coaches plan ahead a little bit but it also you know there you have to go through the ordering process and it's got to get shipped and so when it when it comes to it having that time to be able to get those potential purchases dealt with and here by the time the season starts you know would be benefici do you
055anticipate there will be any other requests for the rest of the year I mean we kind of sort of take taking care of the spring Sports yeah I I guess um I don't foresee any you know with this with this being you know our last you know our Spring sport season starting this month this is kind of the format that we decided on would work the best um you know I guess I I can't say no for sure CU things might come up and and I know like um the purchase that Mark had I I don't know if that was in that was for the fall I I believe he purchased it over the summer for the fall you know that was something that came that would really help the maintenance of our ball fields
056and things here so if something like that were a need I guess yeah maybe sense there would be an addend but I guess that's not really my decision I guess that's just kind of looking ahead okay moving on outstanding balances take care and Food Service all right um this is more of of bringing into your attention I I think the the Food Service one is one thing um and trying to impact that some um but then it's it's coming down to you know with our our daycare and our outstanding balances we attached those that that are there um are any of these still enrolled um on the most of them are not most of them are not that is correct the daycare ones that's they just left the balance yes do we have any kind
057of so we looking for recourse or I I guess that's is yeah bringing it to your attention I mean we're we're sitting at that amount and what what do we do with it you know I I was looking through our current handbook and there was nothing referring to that all I talked about was late charges talk about anything else and I don't think we've established anything as far as recoupment of these funds but anyway we also have to understand that there is a process to this as well how long does it to get a balance of 1,600 or I don't know any some of these balances are kind of large but how how this this takes months depends on sometimes how many kids you have are you on P or reduced or for the daycare
058what age level your kids are at and some of them I think some of the the daycare ones they've gotten um some of it was they were getting the uh the state aid or County Aid and that portion was getting paid but they had a personal portion they were paying and that part wasn't getting paid so some of them it's like part of their bills were being covered oh on an ongoing basis right and just a personal and some of them were were making some like one of them on there the family was making some payments but I think that Snowball Effect they got farther and farther yeah well maybe we need to set a cap of once you hit a certain amount OED right we did have something in the dayare for that I
059look at it again I don't think there was anything specific towards I don't know if anything over $500 should be what's that anything over $500 over yeah I would think once you hit 500 and you're I don't know I mean that's pretty much that's about a month for a kid one kid I would say it's got be close to about a well no maybe only I thought it was like would say like 30 days out or so so many days out because you I guess yeah see what it says because if you have some families that have two little ones in there and you're talking almost 400 a week doesn't take you know any time but do we have a way of even going after this we have a collections method other than we could
060send them letters we have not done collection in quite a few years but it is something and you could always pursue that related for daycare but all what about food the food service is that the same rules apply it is not are we well that that's more of a a challenge on on how we go um I I will say that we try to do everything we can to have people will fill out paperwork for uh free and reduced programs um but it also raises another issue if you have an employee that has a an outstanding bill and how do you deal with that Dr Wes I I guess that's that comes down to this piece on how we want to handle that as well and I will look for guidance are you talking about
061an employee that would have a child that's in a rear child or children yes that's talking of food service right okay yeah I would I would look into that but yeah I mean that's a these are Big Numbers yes um I I will I will say that the my last District they they imple during my time there they implemented a a policy regarding that with employees so is do you have to feed a kid the same lunch if they go into or can you make them PB and JS and same lunch I would caution where we go with this yeah that was a big thing because the this this very topic I remember being involved in this topic 13 14 years ago in a district and that that is a very hot topic that I
062I would advise that we stay away from you're labeling a them a different meal you're saying oh look at Ben his parents aren't pay his bill hey my my daughter used to get an apple and something and we were never in a rear they were just like while we're out of food and you're last in line here's your Apple something I think you know to be crabby about this but watch my 8-year-old make his lunch today make his sandwich to bring to school like hello we're not doing these kids any favor well and we send them them letters saying that the other one of the other things is is if we do an alternate meal it is not reimbursable at all so at least if they're getting the regular school meal we can count them
063in the reimbursements and at least be getting something back from that where if we do an alternate meal we can charge them got it but if they walk away we have a little bit of benefit to plus third thing is trying to get our food service people to have time you know we're not a staff of superior that has a te people in the kitchen we have generally two and then the dishwasher and it's like okay now you got to each and remember which kids in family so if the the food service and I'm processing this out loud right so might think would we go to collections with families to recover Food Service monies so I think with employees you could buy docking pay but other people I mean we've had that one lady that's
064can you have two standards our Jess has paid uh well we have the ability to dock pay there's there's two things with both of those and the one with the doc pay my my concern is oh okay now Ann's going Christ if I don't have to write out a check every two weeks and Leanne's just going to dock my pay and then I'm trying to track okay so she charged $50 this month so and so charged $200 this month so and so charged one meal they charged $4 that makes a whole new kitten and Kaboodle for me to have to track where people are at also and you don't want them taking advantage of that my other thought is on when I was at Link Stop and maybe this is incorrect when we had charge
065accounts if we brought them to collections we could no longer let them charge so if it's active families that still have children eating and if we take them to collections and we're still feeding them then they're saying well you're still letting them charge so this wipes out and you might not know that better on the legal end yeah I I just have an uneasy feeling about chasing people down for I get that they owe it but I don't know it's this is more just bringing it to your attention that this is going on and and just having some Dialogue on how we want to proceed yeah are these the only accounts that are up the side I mean it's just okay okay Angie's applied that to me so and part of that is so those
066are all I can't remember I think pretty much all of those are nonactive now right for the daycare so that's one thing if we do collections on that because you know they've wiped their hands of us so then if we we at least see if we can get something on them and the thing see me daycare is different from the food service service is kids need to eat right daycare is PE parents need to go to work and we're providing the service so they can go to work or whatever else um in order for them to do that and like I said there's paperwork they can fill up for the state and then they still got to be responsible enough to pay for the rest so I I think we should at least ask some
067questions about going to collections it might still prove to be a bad idea but yeah that's oh about $4,500 if if these are active families and they've got eight or nine more years in the district how high do we let that go and and I guess that that just bring it to once again bring to your attention and getting some guidance on where we need to go with this and you know we can reach out to to other districts and see how they hand we cannot deny them lunch right that's we cannot do that we cannot say no you cannot have lunch right see in the past they have said that sometimes they've said that you can do that but you've seen what happens to schools that do do that so do you want to
068do that to those kids and I think it's it's one of those saying we should not we should not do because it's it's going to be a lightning rod of unwanted attention what it cuz if any of these families are could fill out the free and reduced paperwork MH if if a collection's notice inspires some action we've won if they pay part of it we won if they go to the next FIS school year and at least pay their bill next year still farther ahead but but she saying like we can't send collections if they're still getting stuff we don't feed them in the summer W but I think that would go to or is it yearly I don't know how that work yeah yeah but I yeah something to push them that way right
069if if I can take a look at what are some different thoughts or options that we can have in this um the the savings Grace with the food we get them to fill out applications and I know that we've had a number of generous people trying to take care of foods you know understand Food Service bills pretty sure that at least one of them that owes one of our families that owe a larger balance is now yeah so and if ineligible and have a big balance then then I think you we've got we've got some issues there anyway so I've got a few things to draft up but then when it comes to the daycare I think we we really need to look at how we want to proceed there and I think looking at
070what what does it take to do Collections and you know some of the steps well and the the thing is you you can get a judgment against someone you still have to collect it from so now you're looking at garnishing pay and and people hop jobs and it it it it becomes more works a lot of times this is more like a learning curve I feel like like we need to make the right decisions now maybe jump past this and but that's why like if we hit a cap where once you're in a rear is 500 bucks don't bring your kid to daycare is that typical I mean I guess I've never never used daycare so I I don't know what what is there there is some kind of a cut off I can't remember
071what we can find that talk we said something in place we'll gather some information just as long as we're kind of staying in alignment with you know most of the stuff um obious to the daycare stuff is not going to go up any further uh at this point and so it's it's not like it's an imperative thing that we have to do but we we can collect more information on yeah I saw one of those was from 2023 right so okay business class grad requirement all right I'm bringing this up because I I'm wondering if this is still something that we want to have on our graduation requirement right now we still have a business CL class grad requirement it's all virtu any kind of business class to do virtual that is correct is it
072any kind of business class or is this a specific like business 101 I mean what me anything involving business you could take a marketing class to me you could take an accounting class to me that's all business oriented didn't it used to be your basics learning how to do your taxes learning how to do a checkbook which is now part of personal finance yeah but it but I I guess where where it comes to is it's specifically stating a business class Brad requirement is that is that a requirement or it's not State requirement not a district requirement it is so and versus maintaining our our number of credits to graduate which means you have more El choice right but saying every kid has to take an online business course that's going to cost us more
073money looking at eliminating that requirement or I I guess that's what I'd be looking or asking is you know consideration of removal the business credit yeah cuz well you said like the the family and whatever Financial a lot of that was covered in this so and that is required then that's going to be required to have that at one point isn't it uh now Finance the personal finance is a requirement that we have that will now be a requirement by the state next year so I'm okay yeah because this will cover a lot of that anyways I think that it'll cover it'll it'll provide more opportunities for electives yeah I would I would just yeah that's just my take on this okay I'm okay have money and marriage and then talk maintenance committee recommendations just
074love that name all right all right uh so the document we had a a really good discussion uh last week and I just highlighted uh some of the stuff here that they're recommended take care of here in the very near future um and we can start from the top the uh restroom sink oh sink but it's yes sty um in the elementary uh recommendation is replacing that this summer uh CU it just Elementary just the elementary this one the high school has the same style in the not in the cafeteria but the similar design or similar yeah roundness but but here's the deal the one in the elementary is continuously running it's it's the same exact product that I had in Spooner in the elementary there that we removed because they just wouldn't shut off
075and just oh okay crap and just replacing those with individual sinks and uh getting that set so you know where does the 3500 come from that just someone's estimate or that's an estimate because uh you know Mark was taking a look at it for elementary kids okay it would be beneficial to have the no touch faucets there's a pretty significant range of what those costs are right so just trying to so it's going to be in that ball somewhere all right uh next one is is the kitchen and cafeteria PA system doing the upgrades so you can hear stuff and there's ways of alerting people when you've got a bunch of people in the cafeteria cuz right now it goes to every room but if you're in the cafeteria you may not lost in the
076shuffle and then was the gym too or the so we went through this in the in the gym previously we had some issues where uh if there was music being played it wouldn't stop for the PA that's been taken care of but we going to look at that just to make sure it's still functioning well so but the main main effort was the the kitchen in the cafeteria so okay next one I think we've talked about previously is the kitchen dishwasher uh got that Grant submitted so we're good hopefully that comes back uh the next one is the greenhouse door um that's just the exterior door on the school to the green no that is correct okay because right now it's an exterior door but what what you need is you need blocks cement blocks
077that are put in to extend to the frame because it's just a wood buildin and it's not tremendously secure so is the green R used it will be more trust me I've been working that angle I know we used it it was actually a fundraiser thing that we did back Julie PR does use it every spring she plants she plants stuff but I I'm been actively looking at getting involved in a course workor and doing something like what you're talking about is we're growing stuff and then potentially sell some of that stuff I remember selling tomato plants to family members doz plants she does that too yeah yeah but pulling it in there so all right all right um and and so just getting more security to that piece Mark and I have chatted about
078that a bit I think we can uh manage that uh face classroom okay I will be honest there this this might be high uh we've already started checking some of the appliances um at this point at this point most of the stoves work so this is so you're you're talking 15 20 grand for what exactly so do we have a classroom dedicated to that now's question I thought that's what Nate was in was yes you are correct and that's where it's going to have to go because that has all the electrical hookups the sinks and everything else that's going to be necessary for food preparation so yes so we have a suitable room that we're working on things there's many moving Parts into this piece so but yeah I I hear what you're saying but
079but what we have to take a look at is all the sets for food prep so you're you're talking about your cutting boards your knives utensils everything else cuz it's kind of a hodge podge mess of stuff in there and that's that's still quite High I it it is to a certain extent depending on what we need for appliances and whatnot but I I I still want I still want to make sure that we're we're adequately banked for that so we get do you somebody that's got a list of what they want to do for that we have to get an inventory first okay give me a list of what you want so I can get it kind of priced out better I I was hoping you'd say that so I'll see what I can
080do thank you Hunter Appliance C I have a full catalog from everything from two pcks to you know yeah those big old walk things yeah so um I I will say that one thing that would be beneficial is getting a a washer that works in there the washer does not but I think we can washing machine yes oh yeah all right and then moving down um the last one that's highlighted is the cafeteria restroom upgrades um I think what the main reason why that was put on there is this was heavily promoted uh before I started here and there was some fundraising activities that went with it and I think we're starting we're going to start dealing with some more perception issues if we don't take action on it there are some funds minimal funds
081that were that were put together but there's some things in there that you could change that are free or they should be free like all your hand soaps and paper towels those should be free from your vendor if they aren't drop them right that that that's no dramas it's it's more of the the Stalls and whatnot and looking at those options there but like when I go into that men's bathroom and the you know the busted things in there just from that kind of stuff I know kids do it but right that's been that way for a few years now so right that will be handled yeah and we would get stalls that kind of match our school colors too so that' be nice anyway uh anyway talking about cafeteria stuff is there anything we
082can do with that vending machine I mean there must be someone that supplies that that thing has been on of order one right outside of the cafeteria right here Aquafina or whatever it is okay we we can check into it the the only issue is uh with the vending machine depending on what we're offering it may not be functional during the school day well we we don't own that machine you are correct but it but it's still we it falls under the guidelines that we have to follow that it may not I think it's either get rid of it or that's that I understand that's what I'm saying we can check into it who owns it and how we can maybe utilize it or not but just I just want to make sure that I'm
083I'm stating that that issue right so overhead B light LED oh I'm sorry at at the bottom I think that uh I apologize yes that is cor is that the softball field that it is yes because they we're looking at uh more stuff down there and part of a grant uh looking at um having security cameras down there as well and I just think it's a more of a security piece to if we're going to have cameras down there I'd like to have the lighting and uh putting up LED lights down there talking to Mark he thinks that uh the expense for those is going to be the same if not less than just sheer replacement of what's down there so does anybody other than the school use that field at this point in time
084yeah I'm not sure you I don't think we're getting field lights like that they're not like field I mean we're typically out of there before dark why why are we lighting the parking lot if nobody's using it in the evening once again this comes back to that security of our facilities and if we're going to there's we're looking at the potential addition of a storage and and Outdoor Classroom down there as well so I I think it's in our best interest to get more security and and coverage down there and you with that you would need lighting for it so that's it motion detes sometimes by the time burning electricity at Mid you're ending some of those software games it's starting to get dark so when they're cleaning up the field and things like that
085and I and I guess that's where we would want to go with the LED as well L you just talking the the the parking lot not the field what do they when they do the winter snow shoting where's that done in the candle light that it comes out the end uh usually it's down at the trail does it come off by the field yes so that I mean that would be a good thing when they do like the Snowshoe at night thing the candle or four the military has invested a lot of money trading this [Laughter] guy let's convenient to close session pursuant to Wisconsin statutes 19851 C to consider employment promotion compensation or performance evaluation data of any a Public Employee over which the governmental body has jurisdiction or exercises responsibility some second all
086favor all right we are in Clos session at John by a hair it was close lips were just on the verge of save finish if she wasn't so fatigued from Raising teenagers she would have had you I got a teenager too that's fair