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SASD School Board Meeting 1/19/26

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2026-01-20
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Dane County, WI
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2026-06-11

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001I'm gonna do this thing. You ready? Yep. >> Call to order this meeting of the Stoen Area School District Board of Education. Miss Daramo, will you call the role? >> Mr. Tim Buban >> here. >> Miss Mia Croyle >> here. >> Mr. Jim Moser >> here. Um, Mr. Zach Masa >> here. >> Miss Lisa Pew here. Miss Allison Sorc >> here. I have Dr. Sharon Milin Bartlett coming online. Um, student rep. Michaela Becker >> here. >> President Joe Patterson >> here. All right. First item on the agenda is public comment. Being no members of the public present this evening and having no written public comment to read, I will move on to item 2B, the legislative update. Couple of items tonight. Um, you might have seen in your email from the school boards association that

002they're asking folks to take urgent action to pass AB196 SB170, which is a bill that would ease regulations for rehiring Wisconsin retirement system. Um, a new an a new um we've talked about this bill before. Um, it's been stuck in committee. There's some confusion by some legislators. There is an automatic um messaging system that you can if you if you get into that email that you can like automatically send a message to both your assembly rep and your senator, which I did today. So, so very easy. Otherwise, you can just email Representative Udell and Senator Radcliffe, who are our representatives, and ask them to please help move that bill along. Um, there's some expected committee action this week on education issues. Uh, this committee on education is meeting on this Wednesday, the 21st. They'll be

003talking about two bills related to uh DPI investigation. Specifically, Assembly Bill 829 authorizes the state superintendent of public instruction to subpoena witnesses and the production of relevant documents uh to aid in an investigation relating to revocation of a license for incompetency or immoral conduct and AB795 which is a bill that requires the state superintendent of public instruction to maintain a website on online licensing portal that is searchable by the public and must include information on license holders. ers who are being investigated. Another bill that's up for hearing was previously heard in the Senate, is on the topic of transporting pupils in vehicles other than school buses. This would increase the number of passengers who can be can be transported um from 9 to 14 passengers um and some other changes related to that. So, those

004are bills that are up for hearing. Um reminder that you're always welcome to go and testify or submit testimony via email on any of those issues. The that committee will also vote on two bills. One is on an alternative application deadlines for families changing residences for a military order and the other one requires schoolboard policies for appropriate communication between school staff and volunteers and students outside um of the district. The full assembly meets uh this week uh both on Tuesday and Thursday. Those are the days where they will move bills forward that have passed out of their committees. Uh there are two K12 related bills that are scheduled to be voted on by the full assembly. Assembly Bill 393 relating to school bus operation by drivers over age 70. Uh the schoolboard association has not

005registered a position on this bill. It's uh the bill talks about requiring an individual over age 70 to demonstrate their continued ability to hold a school bus endorsement um for at four-year intervals, changing that from two-year intervals, which is currently required. The other bill that they'll vote on is Assembly 749 relating to requiring instruction in blood and organ donation in high school grades. uh the schoolboards association is in is opposing this bill uh on the grounds that it violates local control and that the uh bill's requirements do not apply to independent charter or private voucher schools. We found out about the state's fund balance. Uh the state is projected to have a $2.5 billion surplus at the end of 202527 um thanks to a surge in tax collections over the 2-year period. That's about $1.5

006billion more than what the legislative fiscal bureau had projected last year while they were um determining the budget. The state budget stabilization fund, also known as the rainy day fund, also is at its highest level in state history with a balance of $2 billion. And I just mentioned that because that's money that um oftentimes is discussed in the context of meeting the needs of K12 education. Uh in light of that, the governor has recently announced his 2026 legislative agenda. Uh among his priorities, as you might imagine, is investing necessary funds to uh in public schools. Specifically, he talked about ensuring that the agreed upon agreed upon percentages of special ed funding would be met. You might remember we talked about this that um in the budget they promised uh 42% special ed reimbursement in 202526

007and 45% in 2627. Um the legislature the legislature had set that as a fixed amount but they didn't put enough money in the budget to meet those percentages. So a as a result the promised reimbursement is dropping from 42 cents on the dollar down to just 35 cents on the dollar. So just that much less money is coming in special ed than what we were anticipating. Um people are encouraged to contact their state senator and state assembly representative with their thoughts on the fact that schools are not getting the amount of special ed funding that they were promised. Finally, there's a new state funded 4K program that was just unveiled on January 15th by the governor and the Wisconsin Department of Children and Families. It's called Get Kids Ready. It would be a free uh

0084K program for families. Will provide 65 million in direct payments to child care providers who are providing um school readiness programming for four-year-olds. There's requirements under this program. Um they must provide a DPI approved 4K curriculum. cannot currently have a contract with the school district to provide 4K instruction and provide at least 437 hours of instruction per year. There there is a FAQ um posted on the Department of Children and Families website if you're interested in learning more. >> Thank you. Does anyone have any questions for Lisa regarding the legislative update? >> Let me Yeah, let me just double check. And I I hadn't realized when I read the email today that the the one on annuitance is really all retirement system folks, not just teachers. We've talked about in the context of teachers. >>

009And I suspect that's, you know, probably less than 15 years ago that they kind of changed some things and then changed again. And you know, Dan, you've seen the history of that probably. Um, so I think it's it'll be interesting to see where this goes. But I think that's probably I mean, we think about it in terms of getting teachers back. bigger than that, >> but it's bigger than that. You know, police officers, parks employees, uh, you know, it's a whole range of people. So, I think it's it'll be interesting to see what happens. >> It'll definitely be interesting to see what happens because there's definitely a trend that um, individuals who work in public sector tend to retire and and take up um, other jobs in public sectors, right, as a part-time employee. And

010so, having those rules allow for that. Yep. >> Is helpful. >> Well, and it's it Yeah. And I I don't know if we've of course but we've been in a different situation having having a different system for a while but I don't if we anticipate if that passes how it might impact retirements here for example >> and then some decision on what kind of process do we have to rehire or fill or you know I I I wouldn't uh I mean it's something to talk about in terms of you know somebody leaves retires gets into the system do they you where do they fit in the pool of applicants for coming back around >> and and what options do we have for other uh potential I mean if you go back origin I mean there's

011always the benefit of having you know more experienced teachers retire and saving some money hiring new teachers too so it's just it's not a to me it's not as simple as just rehire people who've left >> but we'll see we'll see if it comes through at Any other questions or comments about the legislative update? All right, seeing none, we will move on to item 2 C, the workg groupoup reports, and that would be the outreach work group. >> Yep, I have the report and then other people are going to weigh in on certain things. The outreach work group has been busy. We last met on January 6th. We discussed the and made recommend and have recommendations for the full board on the WASBY resolutions. Um so is that later on the agenda? Okay. >> So

012we will discuss that later just to get you excited now. >> Um and then the community conversation. So, there was concern around a low RSVP for the conversation, the community conversation that happened on January 10th. Um, we discussed some ways to change our strategies to get more attendance. um whether it's a come all invitation, post early and often publicly. Um align it with conferences and do something rather than you know a formal full conversation but sort of a quick check-in kind of maybe answer one question kind of thing at conferences. Um just thinking about ways that we can lower that threshold for parents to participate. Um and also thinking about ways to do some outreach to particular groups of families. Um the event in the high school is scheduled for February 21st. Um Cassie has

013already shared a a list of 120 names that she's recruiting. So we're and we're hoping and anticipating better attendance at this event. Um, I was not at the event on the 10th. So, do we want to have a report out from that now? >> Sure. I mean, I'll start. I We even though it was lower attendance than what we had hoped, I think that the folks that participated provided really great input. We had a great conversation. We used um some of the same questions that we did at our earlier conversation and um board members who were there took notes and Lynn Breedlove kind of facilitated and wrapped up the conversation and the notes from that event will be compiled alongside the February high school event and shared out with the public and all board members

014at that time. >> Okay. All right. And then couple more things. Uh the business honor role. So we have um made some quick tweaks to the application. Um one is we've previously requested that they identify three ways in which the business has supported students. We changed the application to sort of have three separate spots. So it sort of forces them to answer three things. Um and that's going out when Dan >> uh soon this month. >> Okay. So that um will be posted this month for a request for nominees and then the legislative day or as Lisa likes to shorten it, leg day and then I always think oh no not leg day. Um, leg day is coming up quickly. Tuesday, February 3rd from 8:00 a.m. to noon. Um, we, uh, Abby has created two

015handouts on the, um, youth transition program, which is one of the things going to be highlighted at that day. That's it. Other than, you know, I know you're all just on the edge of your seats for the WASBY stuff, so that's come. >> Thank you, Mia. Are there any questions for the outreach work group? >> Right. Seeing none, let's move on to item 2D, the student representative report. >> Hello. So, there's been lots of things happening um at the district's DECA meet um last weekend. Out of 14 events, the team received awards in 10 events and brought home 39 individual awards, including Owen Corbett, who placed first in business services marketing, and Josiah Mauy, who placed second in principles of finance. Um so, there's all of them with their awards in front. Um, and then

016the high school winter dance will be held January 31st. All proceeds will be donated to the Dan County Humane Society. Um, Norse afternoon of Fun for the Norwegian Dancers is going to be next weekend, February 1st at 1:30. Um, and then for athletics, Sad Agurado and Aiden Dennis and Carter Wubin placed first in the JV wrestling qualifier and will be able to advance to JV State for boys wrestling. Boys wrestling for the varsity team competed at the Cheese Head tournament um last weekend where Gatlin M placed first and Cade Splinter took third place. Boys basketball beat Wapon 73 to 50 on the 13th and Portage 58 to 37 on the 15th. Girls wrestling competed in the Mosquo Invitational on the 10th. Emily Matheni placed eighth and Kylie Soderling placed ninth. Boys swim hosted the College

017Events Invitational on the 10th and the team had seven top 10 finishes and placed fifth overall. Girls basketball beat Reedsburg 60 to 53 on the 13th and the uh Stoton dance team competed in Kana over the weekend taking fourth place for their hip-hop routine. And then for arts, the um choir will be hosting their pops concert on February 9th at 700 p.m. Um there will be 16 student soloists and four teacher soloists. If you want to see me, I will be a soloist. >> Nice. >> And that is all I got. All right. >> Very good. Thank you. Michaela, are there any questions for Michaela tonight? >> Lisa, can you reveal what you're singing? >> Um, it's called The Subway by Chapel Ran. >> Nice. >> Oh, nice. >> I can't see Sharon anymore. Can

018you tell me if she has any question? >> Okay. All right. Thank you again and we will move on to item three, Dr. Keys's report. >> All right. giving a little bit more detail on uh something that Mia had shared out from the outreach work group. Um legislative day uh February 3rd just to frame it out for the board and for community. Um this year we are going to have it um start and be hosted all up at the high school. Our focus this year, as mentioned, is going to be on the high school. Um we've been um this is our fourth annual and so we've been to all of our schools. We're going to be focusing on the high school. The transition program for those who may not know and um Jenny Collins who

019runs the transition program says the number one question she gets is what is the transition program? The transition program um works with our students with disabilities in transitioning. So they're 18 to 21 year old program. We work with department of um or DVR, department of vocational >> Rehabilitation. Thank you. Um work on life skills and so forth. So they are students who are um our 12th graders. They remain in 12th grade while they're in the transition program and they all they work with our community at large. So talk a little bit with our elected officials about that and um with that talk about our business partners. Um what will the participants um who come to this day um expect? They'll be in classrooms, high school classrooms. Um they'll get an overview of the transition program

020with student panel and business partner panel. Um and then we will also have our traditional board conversations. um slightly different. We'll be doing it before lunch because we will actually be um having lunch going through the lunch line um slightly before 9th grade lunch and we'll actually be eating with um the students who will be participating in our student panel. So, uh a slightly different flavor to it, trying to keep it new and fresh while still maintaining our core purpose of having a focused um agenda for our elected officials. I believe we're up to 12 um invitees both local um county, state, and federal. Uh I think most recently we heard from um Tammy Baldwin's office um will who is going to be there uh someone from the office will be attending and um we

021continue to refine all the timelines, but it's going to be a full day starting at 8. Um, arrival 8 to 8:30, kickoff at 8:30, and wrapping up by noon for our elected officials. Questions? >> Okay, any questions? >> Dan, just if is that something we could come to part of or what? >> For board members, all board members are invited. Some board members have been able to attend only a portion of it. So, please, if you can only make it to some of it, we'd rather we welcome you. just uh >> well I have something else that day but later in the morning but >> he'll be there for lunch. >> Okay. >> Actually I'd be there for breakfast and then >> I'd be there early and then have to leave. But >> any other

022questions for Diane regarding legislative day? >> Mia, >> just to clarify, so we're not starting here at the district office. >> We will all be up at the high school >> and they're not going to get the joy of a bus ride. Nope. Not the joy of a bus ride. Let's look at the joy of a school lunch. >> I suppose >> with the ninth grader. >> That'll be interesting. >> Um I believe that at the state education convention there will be a district that will be presenting about their legislative day. Dan, which district would that be? >> That would be the Stone Area School District that will be presenting >> um on how to host a legislative day. So, um Lisa Pew, myself and Senator Radcliffe will be um presenting on Thursday morning um

023at the state convention on this um sharing with other districts how how this was um formulated, how we've kind of evolved it over the past four years and then sharing our planning template, our uh our one pager from um previous years and then having an opportunity to hear from an elected official from their perspective what it means to them to come to a school district and actually experience the day as we have planned it and what it means to them in their capacity of um setting policy at at um you know in this case at the state level. >> Very good. All right. Let's move on then to item four, the consent agenda. >> Move approval of the consent agenda as presented. >> Seconded by Coyle. >> Is there any discussion or questions regarding the

024consent agenda? >> I had a quick question about one of the bills payable. Um it was page 36. there were payments to Lakeside International Trucks and I was just curious what that is if anybody is familiar. Not a big deal if not. >> No, but I can dig into it and and get a response back to be sure. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yep. >> The consent agenda has been moved and seconded. All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Any abstensions? The consent agenda is approved. And that takes us to um item five is discussion. We have no items up for discussion this evening. So we move on to item six. Uh 6A is the 2026 2027 open enrollment seats that we discussed at our last meeting. So I need a motion. Move approval

025of the 2026 2027 SASD open enrollment seats as presented which includes unlimited availability for district regular education seats. There are no spaces available for speech and language occupational or physical therapy. There is one seat for special education in 5K and one seat in third grade at either Fox Prairie or Kaganza. >> Seconded by Bubon. Is there any discussion this evening? >> No. >> All right. Seeing none. All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? And any abstensions? All right. Motion is approved. We are on to item 6B, the WB resolutions. And I need a motion for that as well. Uh >> move approval of the WASBY resolutions >> as recommended by group >> the outreach work group. >> seconded by Pew. All right. Um is there any discussion about this? This came out of the

026outreach workg groupoup committee. So we are able to move it um from that as the discussion action or as the discussion to this as a discussion action. So planning to take a vote this evening convention is this week. Yes, we need to make a decision. I So is the >> you want to do a little >> Yeah, I can try to quickly go through like the items, but I want to start with one that we didn't discuss in outreach, which is >> it's in the it's in the agenda because this was an emergency resolution that was proposed after we met and I I think it's very important. It's related to the um reduced special ed reimbursement percentage that we just talked about. um comes from the Wisconsin Heights School District and they basically say that

027uh WASBY should be able to advocate for when the legislature in the budget says that special education funding is going to reach a certain percentage that they need to ensure there's enough funding in the budget to actually reimburse school districts at the percentage. So it's not um it's a little bit different than um some sufficient and so they kind of make the case in their rationale why it's important um for school districts to have certainty in their budgeting. So I would I would propose that we should uh support this resolution as presented by this school district. This >> I would amend the prior oh >> prior motion. Oh >> add this one to it. Yep. Because this was not discussed. >> That's true. Okay, >> I'll second that amendment. >> Okay. Did you catch that,

028Rachel? >> All right. All in favor of amending the motion? >> I. >> Any opposed? Any abstensions? Okay. Motion is amended. >> Mia. >> So, just a quick question. Oh, and Zach, I think Zach had a question, too. But the emergency is that it's after the normal timeline. >> Mhm. >> For submitting it to WASBY, right? It's nothing. >> Once it gets on the WASBY docket >> docket, it's not any different than any other. >> Okay. >> It's slightly different because it would need um a different kind of approval on the floor was my understanding. These are two on. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah, that's that's probably true. And there's that's why they categorize it that way. >> Um any other questions? >> Not a question, but of interest. It's interesting that this one

029comes from Wisconsin Heights because as for Marissa Bode who played um Nessa in Wicked is from and she >> you know in the for those who are unfamiliar with the show, she's actually in a wheelchair and she actually is you know that. So, it's interesting that it's coming from Wisconsin Heights. So, I'm curious how Yeah. how that plays in and so just for anyone who's curious. >> Interesting. >> Did you have a question? >> Yeah, this seems related to what you were saying in the legislative update also. I just um it's kind of this same thing, right? I think there's more there's more awareness around when the legislature promises that they're going to reimburse at a certain percentage. Well, there's also a problem, Dan, wouldn't you say that when they they're identifying how much money

030they think they need for special education, it's based upon last year's reimbursement data from school districts. So, it's not necessarily point in time um information, but the it's inflexible. The budget is currently inflexible because it only puts a certain amount of money in the pot. >> But if it can't meet the needs, then school districts are left with unpaid special ed bills. >> Right. Which is the biggest hurdle when um this legislature talks about some sufficient versus some certain. when they talk about um some sufficient, they're agreeing to a percentage and not knowing what what that upper threshold amount's going to be when it's some certain. They they know they're allocating a specific amount and then they'll prorrate it based on all the all the reimbursement requests that come in. um when we're when uh

031in the legislative update that get kids ahead initiative around 4K is that is that way the the messaging is about how much that they think they're going to be able to to give per child. Once all the applications from all the four uh child care centers who apply submit their enrollments, then they'll actually figure out how much it's going to be per child moving forward. And so it's really um an a best estimate based on on past da d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d da >> Okay, >> Mia, go ahead. >> Is that different? Like how is that different than some of

032the other programs that the state might say we're going to do this program and we think it's going to cost us this much and then it turns out it costs a lot costs more like there's other programs. It's not just schools that have this issue. Is that correct or no? >> Likely yes. Um I can't think of any right off the top top of my head, but yes, it's I would say that um in other areas of that the state funds, they have very similar approaches where they'll allocate a certain amount and then have a statement that says they'll prorrate if the um requests come in over and above the amount that they've agreed to in statute. I would say Medicaid maybe is an example of something that's different because you might have seen that

033the Medicaid budget is coming in at a deficit um as opposed to what they originally said Medicaid was going to cost for the year. But in the end, it's Medicaid is not a some certain program like special education is. Some certain is here's what the state's given you school districts. If you happen to spend more, it's on you. And so then local property taxpayers end up paying what the state doesn't pay. Medicaid's different. The state has to figure out how to find that money. So a lot of times they'll dip into other parts of the budget or into the surplus to pay whatever bills are left in Medicaid. I don't know about other programs, but that's some some are some are some certain and some are oh, we still have to pay this bill. >>

034Yeah. It's curious why Medicaid is different. Why? Like Medicaid's allowed to get their bills paid >> because local property taxpayers has a have a stake in the funding of schools in a way that they don't in like a program like Medicaid, which is >> I mean substance abuse treatment is the same way counties are required to fund substance abuse treatment for people who don't have other funding sources. They get it's some of it a lot of it's federal pass through money but it comes from the state and you get what you get and when you're and most counties run out of money by like April and then they just have to ration care. >> So we don't have the option of rationing education. >> So >> any other questions about the resolutions quickly? I have

035a quick quick comment uh a substantive question and then a couple of procedural questions. So hang on. Uh I would just respond to that. I think some sufficient is some certain is almost I would say this is a legislative default. They don't like doing things some sufficient because then they have no idea what it's going to be. So it's not uncommon across the state that there's all kinds of some certain amounts. Um I know in youth corrections that was the case in certain areas. So uh the the comment on the resolutions was I I've read these side by side a couple times. Number 10 and 11 >> which is related to decoupling of private and public school funding. >> One's and the title throws you off right away because one says support, one says oppose.

036The language is a little different in each one. Did did you could somebody explain what that difference is to me in a way that >> I I was going to maybe go through all of these and just highlight what our position was and then we Is that sound like a good way to do it? Yeah. >> So like Okay, sure. So are we done talking about the one emergency one, do we think? Okay. >> All right. So the first um resolution is related to the WASBY bylaws and resolutions. Uh that this is I believe is this another emergency one that they need two No, it's because it's a bylaws. They need a twothirds vote. So this is kind of an unusual resolution being proposed by the Kettle Marine School District. Um, we as the outreach

037work group talked about this and decided that we will oppose would would recommend that the delegate oppose this resolution because Wise already has an internal democratic process by which school boards can say that they support or oppose resolutions. And out of 420ome school districts that are allowed to vote in these um delegate assemblies, if if a school district's opinion is not in the majority, then that's how the school board's association has to um move forward. So >> yeah, >> that's that one, >> Lisa. Yes. >> So So you're saying that the committee is recommending we >> that the delegate would vote to oppose the change in the bylaw. >> So we would vote no on this one. >> Correct. >> Okay. The se uh the very first resolution after that one is uh regarding maintaining

038the enrollment cap and the income cap on the participation in the choice program. We support that one. Number two, revisions to the school district and school report card process. We oppose that. Number three, amendment to resolution 5.22 funds distribution. We support that. Number four, amending um the authority to schedule referenda. We support that. Um number five, uh this is a creating um a new categorical aid fund to support schoolbased substance use disorders. We talked about this, but um we oppose it for several reasons. One, that the dollars recommended fall short of what's needed. there's a workforce shortage in this area. Um, and we're not sure that this um should be um kind of a school-based responsibility that there should be community resources that schools would be collaborating with. Good intention, not the right strategy, I

039guess, is where we came on that. Number six, uh this was um amending existing funding for children with disabilities. Uh collaboration of resources. We support the idea of this, but it is kind of a weak resolution is where we came out on that. Um number seven, the resolution to create uh supporting state legislation to establish and fund universal school meal programs covering the cost of student meals. We support that. Number eight, uh WASBY supports creation of public education endowment fund to be invested to provide equitably equitably funded school districts across the state. We support that. Number nine, the resolution um around early childhood education funding and public private p partnerships. We support that. Number 10 and number 11. Um this is where you are asking the question about Jim. >> Yep. >> Um decoupling of

040public and private school funding. Number 10, we that the one that supports decoupling we oppose. The one that opposes decoupling we support. Does that make sense? Okay. And we we can talk about any of these in depth if people have questions. But um number 12, repeal um encouraging members schools to participate and engage in WIAA policy process. We oppose that. Um there were a few additional uh resolutions that were proposed by other school districts that might come up if the the supporting authoring school district brings them up. One of them that we decided to support was from Nenina. It was supporting um uh moving beyond exclusionary and punitive discipline practices such as suspensions and expulsions by investing in proactive preventative measures. Um, I can't remember why they didn't want to um move this resolution forward,

041but we support this resolution with an amendment to advocate for resources resources to support school districts that are interested in reducing the use of suspensions and expulsions. >> And so, >> yep. on that one. Their argument was that there was already language in existing resolutions, which if you go to those existing resolutions are very uh >> vague and wishy-washy at best. >> I think that's what we thought, but we thought also that there there was a need for resources in order to move toward the proactive preventative measure. So that's how we would advise amending that if it comes up. >> You are our delegate for the delegate assembly. >> I am. Okay. I am the person. Okay. Um can I ask that if board members have um are in opposition of any of the work

042groups recommendations for supporting or opposing that we open conversation about those otherwise think we can send you on with your list if the board approves. So, um, >> I would move to amend the motion to reflect that we're approving the recommendations of the committee, not approving these resolutions as written. >> Oh, very good. Okay. Did you get that amended motion? Okay. Is there a second for that amendment? >> Second by bubon. Any discussion about that? >> Well, one more thing and that we so that we're authorizing Lisa to vote for that way. >> Are there other resolutions as a process? question and it's been a long time since I've been there. Other resolutions that may come forward from other districts at the time that get heard or presented. My recollection was there were uh it

043takes a larger percentage and those kinds of things but >> right that's the process. So, >> so I would so I would amend it further or do a second one or I'll amend it further to just authorize Lisa to vote on behalf of the board as she sees fit on any additional resolutions presented. >> I believe that's an like unerstood thing because she's the delegate that we've selected. >> It may have been in the past. I'm just suggesting I don't think our delegates should go without direction from the board. Pretty clear. >> Okay. So something comes up, she thinks it's a bad idea, oppose it. >> I can go rogue. Is that what you're saying? >> You can go rogue on anything else. >> Well, permission. Okay. Well, if we all approve, >> Allison, that

044that was the only thing I wanted to caveat there, too, because sometimes as the delegate, you get in there and you listen to the discussion about things. And in the past, the way I have understood it was that you always have the, you know, you are your own person and you're voting what you think we're all going to want, but sometimes there's additional information. So, I mean, I wouldn't hold you to it if you changed your mind. This will be my second time or my maybe my third time as a delegate, so I'm kind of aware of the process, but based upon >> what's in the booklet, I think this might be a particularly contentious year. >> Yeah, I can imagine. >> Oh, it should be fun. >> Very back and forth. So, so I

045would, if I go back to my motion, would suggest that she cannot go rogue on anything that we've already voted on, but it but she can go rogue on anything that's we haven't had a chance to discuss that I don't think a board member should go and represent the board unless the full board has had a chance to review it, which we haven't on anything that might get presented. We have no idea what it might be. you can abstain, but my my position would be that a person cannot represent the board unless the board has given him that authorization directly, which we are on everything that we've talked about, but >> Well, what Allison just said though is >> interesting. I I don't think I've ever felt conflicted about where I thought the board was

046would be on a particular issue, but like you were saying, sometimes there is conversation or things we hadn't talked about. >> Well, then in the absence then I would recommend if there's no second to this latest amendment proposal, then you'll do what you do. Uh so if everybody else is happy the other way, then ignore that amendment. Mia, >> I just I feel like in past years the board has delegated our delegate with the responsibility of in the moment decisions. >> Um, and you know, here's the ones that we had in advance. We looked at them. We discussed them. Here's how we, you know, we think it should go. But in the room you may get a lot of additional information that may change your mind or you you know or there's other ones presented

047and I think for me at least I think I bestow that trust on whoever the board has delegated to make solid decisions. So I >> yeah I >> I completely trust Lisa but I don't and I trust me but I don't think I should speak on behalf of the board unless the board's had a chance to do that. >> It's more of a process concern for you. I hear that. >> Yeah. >> I I would second Jim's suggested amendment. I like the idea of formalizing it and arming Lisa explicitly. you know, this has never been a problem before, but just to walk in knowing firmly, I think is a healthy move to to have that really clear to everybody. >> Okay. So, I'm confused about what we're >> What the amendment is. Are we amending

048her to make uh to use her judgment to vote in the manner that she thinks the board would agree with or are we saying >> only only on those items that we have not discussed or been presented by the committee or have discussed here. So something that comes up completely out of the blue. There's a whole list of other resolutions that were presented that weren't passed on for the larger delegate assembly. do what you want or I mean you know >> the conversation that we had here tonight where I said we oppose this, we support this, >> those are the ones that we're voting on, Lisa, this is how we expect you to vote. >> But other items that we have not talked about tonight, Lisa, use your best judge. >> Yes. Okay, Mia, >>

049the only caveat to that, and not to make it overly complicated, but is that someone could offer an amendment to one of those that we've already given her guidance on how to vote and the amendment may may change the, you know, direction of the resolution in such a way that she thinks, oh, I don't know that the full board would support this anymore. >> Correct. Because that's happened in the past. >> Yeah. Yes. They've they've been tricky with resolutions in was it Frank's year? I think. Yeah. >> And I I think that would fall in the category of something we haven't discussed that you you you should feel comfortable to decide on. >> Yeah. >> Exactly. >> I agree. >> Okay. >> It sounds like we're all on the same page with the amendment, the

050amended to the motion. >> Yes. >> Okay. If Rachel can >> and and it's been seconded, correct? >> Yes. >> Okay. All right. So, I will call the question. All in favor >> of the amendment? >> Yes. >> Okay. I >> I >> Any opposed? No. >> You're Are you opposed? >> Opposed or you >> I am opposed. You're >> opposed. Okay. >> All right. Any abstensions? I very good. Motion carries. >> So it's now amended. >> Oh, so it's now amended. So now we vote to >> authorize Lisa >> to vote in the vote as pres on the um resolutions as presented and have discretion on resolutions that h are new um and have not been presented to the board. >> Okay. Somebody wants to say so moved. >> Second. >> Okay. Moved by

051Bubon and seconded by Croyle. Any discussion? All right. All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Any abstensions? >> I'll abstain. >> Few abstains. Motion carries. >> Okay. Um we are now to meeting closing for action items. I have uh board members and the public are encouraged to reach out to their uh senators and assembly persons about the house bill related to annuitants about um the reduction in special ed funding that we can anticipate thanks to the shortfall in the allocated amount in the budget. Is there another >> there's a question about bill payable? >> Yeah, that's different. Okay. So, no other reach out items. So, then I also have a reminder that the North Afternoon of Fun is February 1st. The Pops concert is February 9th. And Dan's going to look into the bill

052paid for Lakeside International Trucks. We have future meetings. Uh regular board meeting on February 2nd. Legislative day is February 3rd from 9 to 12 at the high school. Uh we have another board meeting on the 16th and our upcoming Stoton High School community conversation is February 21st from 9 to 12. If there are no other items to be discussed, I entertain a motion for adjournment. >> So move. >> Moved by Masa Meyers. Is there a second? >> Seconded by Croy. Any discussion? >> All in favor? >> I. Any opposed extensions? Meeting is adjourned. All right.

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