San Angelo ISD School Board Meeting - December 15, 2025

001Good evening and welcome. My name is Taylor Kingman, president of the board of trustees for the St. Angela Independent School District. I would like to welcome all of you who are present at tonight's regular board meeting, as well as those who will be watching the recording online or on our public access channel. Today is December 15th. All items on tonight's agenda have been posted as required by state law, and most items have been discussed in our earlier pre-aggenda workshop. As a board, our work includes setting goals, hearing reports from our superintendent, approving budgets, contracts, and personnel items, and making policy for the district. Please keep in mind that this is a meeting of the board held in public, not a public meeting. These proceedings are recorded and will become part of the district's permanent record

002to help us maintain a clear recording. Please refrain from speaking while others are have the floor and please silence your cell phones. Again, thank you for being here and your support of SISD. We do have a quorum. Um this is myself is going to be unable to be with us this evening and we will begin with the first item on our agenda which is our invocation and Pierce Love lead pastor of students and families for the 456 church will be here to help us 456. Let's pray. Father God, I thank you so much for the opportunity to come here and be in a room, God, that wants to pray to you, to come before you in the name of Jesus and and proclaim truth. God, I pray over the volunteers in this room. I pray

003for those who who pour into this community. God, I pray that you give them grace, that you give them wisdom, that you give them love and knowledge, God. And I pray that that can be executed um with clear discernment within our community, within our schools, within our district here. God, I thank you so much for these students, these students that we are recognizing this evening, God, I thank you for their hard work, for their for their mindset dedicated to excellence. And God, I pray that um that that within their their acknowledgements of their hard work and of their efforts here, God, that they might take that and that might be fuel to the fire to lead lives of excellence, God, to lead lives that um ultimately, God, glorify and honor you, Jesus. I thank you

004so much for this community that I can be a part of, that I can uh I can see students grow, that I can see communities thrive. God, I pray that you continue to uh to pour your spirit into this place. And God, we know first and foremost that that comes through the power of Jesus Christ. God, that during this season as we celebrate Jesus born on earth, God with us, Emmanuel, that we can acknowledge the power of Jesus's life, of his death, and of his resurrection. and that through the cross, God, we have been freed from sin and through the resurrection, we've been given new life. So Jesus, I pray at the core of of all that we are, that we can desire to be people that know you, that love you, and live for

005you. Jesus, it's in your most precious and holy name that I pray. Amen. >> All right, we have some students from Lamar Elementary to help us tonight. Sorrel Fowler, Shaye Brown, Sllayton Bishop, Hagen Hughes, and Adley Hughes. And they're going to help us with the pledges to the United States and Texas. So if everyone will please stand. To the flag of the United States of America and to the standy for ally state and parents, if y'all want to take pictures or principles, sir. All right. Next on our agenda this evening is our recognitions. And first we're going to recognize the college board national recognition program honores. Timmy here is going to help us with that. >> Yes. Hi students. If you've received a first generation or a school recognized award, would you please come up

006here? If you're not sure, let me put that on the slide for you. Keep going. Right there. If you'll check the slide and then if you're first gen, you should know. But it's the next slide. But let me give everybody a minute to look at that. >> Great. firstgen. I think they get so many awards they don't know what they got. Okay, we are here to celebrate the um 2024 2025 national recognition and AP Scholar Program. Um when you guys look at the names on the slides, I want you to there are some seniors on there as well. Remember AP scores don't come out till the summer. So, we've got we didn't want them to be left out. So, all right guys, we um just so you know, the audience knows and our community knows

007that to receive a national recognized program to receive one of these awards, you have to have a cumulative GPA, let me get to the slide here so you can read it, too. Um, you have to have a cumulative GPA of a 3.3 or 87% or higher. Um the school recognized award is awarded to students that score in the top 10% on the PSAT NMSQT at their high school and first generation award is awarded to the student that scored in the top 10% among the Texas first generation test takers. We don't have any rule or small this year um but you can also receive it if you earned a three or higher on two or more AP exams. So those of you that received Oh, sorry y'all. I copied my papers back in front. Not a

008good plan. Um, we have 26 school recogni recognition awards and eight firstgen awards. So, if you received the school recognition award, would you please step forward so we can get a picture and honor you? Parents, you can come up and take pictures as well. It's a lot of hard work right there. A lot of hours of study. parents, we're not going to let them go till everybody gets their picture. So, you guys come on up and get close. No problem. >> Okay, those of you um that have the first generation, if you could stay, the rest of you can go back to your seat. If you forgot if you're the first gen, there you go. Okay. So, out of the eight, we have four here. So, these are our first generation recognition, national recognition awards.

009Okay, thank you guys. Congratulations. Okay, our next are AP scholars with honors with distinction and AP scholars. So, if you could come up here, if you forgot who you are, here's some lists of those names. Here's our scholar with distinction. Here's our scholars with honors. And then here's our AP scholars. Okay. So, we are pleased to have 37 AP Scholar with distinctions, seven AP scholar honors, and 54 AP Scholar Awards. But let me tell you what that means. So, if you are an AP Scholar, you must have earned a three or higher on three or more AP exams. If you're an AP Scholar with honors, you had an average of at least a 3.25 across all AP exams, scoring three or higher on four or more exams. I love how Do you notice that they're

010watching? They don't even know why they caught it. Y'all are fantastic. All right. AP Scholar with distinction achieve an average of 3.5 or higher on all exams with scores of three or higher on at least five exams. So give yourself like a big pat on the back, guys. Okay, let's get the AP scholars to step forward. Here is Here you are. And we'll take a picture of your cohort. If it didn't step off, why did they get award? >> They're so good. >> You're not going to duck down again. >> That was pretty funny. Your back. Your head's going to show it with something at the top. On the top of your head. There's a screen you Thank you guys. Okay, our next one is AP Scholar with honors. >> We're we're going to make

011any of y'all that are here shake hands. So, you don't want to walk too far, Viv. and now our AP scholars with distinction. Oh, you need the list. There you go. I think everyone in this room does realize how hard an AP exam is. So, big kudos to these students. So, any students that were part of the National Board Recognition Program or the AP Scholar Program, if you all start over there and walk through and shake hands, we'd appreciate it. Congratulations. I congratulate Okay, you can get off of that. You don't have any more. That's it. I guess I just say thank >> you parents and students for coming. Um if you'd like to stay for the whole board meeting you are welcome but if not you can exit. Have a good evening. >> Thank

012you very much. >> Congratulations. Thank you. Yes. Hi, Drew. >> See you. Congratulations. Way to go. Oh yeah. She's in there. All right. Next on our agenda is public comments. No one signed up for any public comments, so we will move forward. Next, we will actually go into close session. Uh this will be for consultation with legal counsel council pursuant to Texas Government Code 551.071. Following legal consultation, the board will remain in closed session for a level three employee grievance appeal pursuant to Texas government code 551.082. Thank you. >> We have returned from closed session. The time is now 7:33 p.m. Um, having heard the appeal, is there any further board discussion? Okay. Does any board member wish to take an action on the level three grave grievance? I will make a motion. Um, I

013first want to thank um, Mrs. stump and for her participation. Oh, she Sorry, I was looking for you. Um, we do hear your concerns and we appreciate your time. Okay. Um, with that though, I move that the board uphold the level two decision and the remedies previously granted. Do I have a second? I'll second. So I have a motion from myself and a second from Dr. Mills. Any further board discussion or questions? If all in favor say I. I. And then make sure you raise your hand. And all again say the same. Motion passes 6. Um next we're going to move on to item eight which is conducting our finance and audit committee workshop. Um, and I'm going to turn that over to Mr. Dindle. >> Thank you, Dr. Kingman. Our finance and audit report

014begins this month on page 14 of your uh agenda. You can find on page 17. The report shows the unrestricted fund balance at the end of November of 4.892 million, of which 4 million is in capital projects, which we'll see some of those uh projects starting to come to fruition later in our PO report. also shows an unrestricted fund balance of 51,783,711 moving forward. There's no questions about those balances. We can move to page 20, which are state which our statement of revenues and expenditures for the general account for the end of November. That's page 20. We're in the third month of the budget year, which is should be about 25% of the total. Right now, revenues are are clipping along at 23.8% 8% while expenditures are at 24.7% and that is the general account

015for the end of November. There are no questions about the statement of revenues and expenditures. We can move to the check register which are on pages 21 through 38. There are no questions about that check register. We can move to page 39 through 43 which is our monthly investment report. Again, the district's total invested funds at the end of November were $469,461,82942 cents. The interest earned for the month was approximately 1.6 million and the interest earn of the general fund was $22,599. Uh interest rates in the pools varied from 3.97 to 4.14%. Page 44 through 47 contains our quarterly investment report. Again, same funds invested. The total interested, hurdle interest earned for the first quarter was 4,964,51760. That report also includes some prior year's earning uh information. There are no questions about either of the

016investment reports. We can move on to the tax collection report. Again, collections for October 2025 were 1.73%. Obviously, that's going to start to increase as we get to the end of the year, especially December uh and January. We'll see most of those probably 90 to 95% of those funds come in at that time. And that will be the collection report for October 20. That'll be the collections for 2025 moving forward. There are no questions about that uh uh tax collection report. We can move to page 49 through 52 which are November POS over $20,000. Uh several of those those POS have the uh are our are funding the capital projects that we mentioned earlier. So that those restricted funds as we pay that out will come down in our restricted budget moving forward. With that,

017Dr. Kingman, that concludes the fin that concludes the finance report for this month. >> Thank you, Mr. Dindle. All right. Um, we're going to move forward with some information items. First up is our construction update and KFW and Mr. Danheim are going to be here to help us. Brooks Wayiner, appreciate you being here to do this. Thank you, Dr. Kingman. Uh, Mr. Brooks Winer is here with KFW and he's give us an update on the concession and parking lot uh, expansion at Lake View Softball Baseball. Uh good evening uh Dr. Moran and school board um and Dr. Brandon. Uh we've been uh working on this uh preliminary schematic design for the concession building that'll be located at Lake View High School. Um sort of in between the as you can see there the softball field,

018the baseball field, and the soccer and track field there. Um what we'll be doing uh oh just go back real quick. Sorry. Real quick. We'll just be uh expanding the parking lot. We'll be adding about 25 uh parking spaces there. Um funneling everyone into the uh that first little white square is the ticket booth. So everyone kind of funnels down to that ticket booth and then they move to the uh go through the gates to the uh there's concession building that's that we'll be showing you with the uh group restrooms as well as a changing area for officials. Um, and so kind of that's kind of the collection point. So then if we go to the next one there, sorry, where is it? Okay, I only have three slides, so this is really kind of

019a midpoint. Anyway, so there's a an elevation view of the ticket booth, the smaller one there at the top, and then an elevation view of the concession building, at least the front elevation there. Um, again, you can just kind of see how how the flow of of folks will work. There's a little bit of a uh area for backup of the at the concession building for queuing and then I mean at the ticket area and then as as well at the concession building and then from there they can move on to the uh all the fields. And then here's a quick schematic floor plan of that concession building. You can see uh the main concession area has will have two glass front drink fridges, a warmer for pizzas, burgers, and the like. Um and then

020a storage area with an ice maker and a freezer. uh group restrooms for the public and then a private uh changing area for referees, umpires, and officials. And that's all 2,170 ft of it. There you go. >> Thank you, Mr. Winter. Anyone have any questions? And so just to clarify, so this concession stand and ticket office will work for both the way you have it flowing flows for the field if it's used for subarities. Everyone comes in at that ticket booth and then walks back to towards home base. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. Every everyone will park in that parking lot and then they all funnel through the ticket booth and that there's two double gates on either side of that ticket booth. Once after they've gone that's the kind of your checkpoint. Once you

021go through there, then you go oh, sorry. Go you go go go go back around to either uh the left field side of the of the softball field or the right field side of the baseball field and or the track and soccer fields. >> Right. M those two dressing rooms are official dressing officials dressing rooms. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Uh those would be their uh a men's and women's. They'll have lockers size of which we haven't quite yet determined. Uh private restrooms and and then you can also see there uh the official parking lot parking. They'll come in actually they park behind the outfield and so there's a there's a there will be a fence that kind of separates them from the general public for the most part so they can kind of go

022in uh have a little bit of privacy and security. And it may be too early for you to tell me if the the team dressing rooms are going to be on the main campus like a visiting team dressing room. >> I know that's a little different. >> that would be the other. >> Yeah, I think that that would likely be part of the overall the high school. >> Okay. >> Good. Thank you. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Wer. >> Thank you. >> Have a good evening. >> You, too. All right. Um, we're going to table our update on academic pronouns till next week. Board team, you should get an email from Dr. Gomez, but she's ill and we're going to I don't think she's ever called in sick ever, so we're

023going to let her do that tonight. Um, next we're going to have demograph demographic study update from Zona. Good evening, members of the board. Dr. Morant, good to see everybody this evening. Back in West Texas for the first time in 15 years and I it was kind of fun. Good drive good drive out. It's good to be here. Thanks for having me. So, we've been doing Wait, do I do this? All right. Zonda Demographics was formerly Templeton Demographics. If you've heard the name before, we we've been around doing demographics and planning for school districts now for almost 20 years. Um, we work with about 75 to 80 school districts in Texas and now we've expanded and picked up a few out of Texas, but we're still homegrown. We I want to talk a little bit

024about the economy. I'm not going to talk very much about because I'm not an economist, but we just kind of want to look a little bit at just when when our team goes in, the research team wants to understand the unemployment rates just so we kind of know whether there's ways there to you can attract employers. Right now, your unemployment rate is sitting about 3.5 and you've stayed there. Full employment is generally considered 5%. So, we're below full full employment. And the reason they say full employment is 5% because if you're trying to attract new new businesses, they want to know there's a labor force there. So, when that unemployment rate gets real low that you can actually it can actually hurt you from the perspective of trying to to gain jobs there. Um, we

025then pull deed transactions. What we we've done is we've pulled Dean transactions for for both existing homes and new homes historically just to kind of look at the trends and what what you're seeing there is the last 5 years we've seen a gra a gradual slowdown right in in turnover of homes. This is kind of you know coordinating with the with the interest rates that went up. You know we saw strong interest rates and we we have all these folks that are in homes but they don't want to leave because they're sitting on a 2 to 3% interest rate and they double that. So they're going to get less house for their money. So, it's taking a little time, but we are starting to see some momentum. There's some areas of that we're going to

026show you here in a little bit of of St. Angelo that are seeing some small growth, and we're going to continue to see that, but it's really beginning to slow down. That's not just here, but that's that's statewide. So, we're seeing that housing market kind of trend backwards a little bit. Um, price point, too, we've seen that price point, you know, go go up from around 250 back in the 2020. Now, a new home you'd be lucky to get for under 350 probably and some of that new product that they're do they're doing. Existing homes are still staying at that what I would call the new affordable, if you will. That 220 to 250 price points. A pretty affordable home in today's market. Just this there's a lot on this slide and I know you

027you guys can check it out later. I'm just going to me mention a couple things. Household size is one thing that we like to keep an eye on. You'll hear me talk about housing yield. that that that's a student yield, but household size is the number of persons per home. So, and you've been standard is 2.4 has been very standard and St. Angelo's been there right there in in that range for, you know, for 20 or 30 years now. Households and housing units. So, your household makeup is, you know, that's your rental property versus owned properties there. You that's 6040. That stayed pretty pretty traditional as well. I think what we've seen though is that that you know in you've got 45,000 homes, you've got about 13,000 students. So that's an overall student yield of

028only 0.25. It's a really low student yield right right now. And that's pretty common as well. What that means is you also have a little little bit older community. So at you know you're now your average age is getting close to 40 and and and students are having students the uh homes are being created later. So you you know the the kids are h having ba babies. I I call them kids. I've got a 33y old kid. Um and they're just now starting to have children, right? So so they're having children later, which is also delaying things. So we're watching that as well. Um but we are our team did go in and we looked at what development we could find. Right now we've got nine active subdivisions. So that means they're active home building

029in nine subdivisions. And of course, and there's about 200 lots ready to be built on. We call those vacant developable lots. That means all the infrastructure is in place. Everything's there. The the roads, the utilities, they can start a home tomorrow. So, that's where we're sitting. But right now, we're only seeing about probably less than 50 homes per year, new homes, you know, in St. Angelo. Now, we we also have futures. We we have another 700 futures. So, I'm when I started looking at numbers for projections, I'm thinking a thousand homes. So, we got a thousand homes that we know about right now that that are going to get built. And now it's just that trying to understand that pace that how long are we going to stay at that 40 to 50? Could we

030get up to a higher number? What what begins to happen to you you've got a lot of competition then for new housing. And so they they kind of, for lack of a better word, they kind of cannibalize off of each other. You know, they can't all build 50 homes a year. So they're each going to be compete competing for the same buyer. So, I don't know that that my uh my forecast is trending right at that 50 probably about 50 homes a year. We'd be pretty would be pretty steady for you guys. I'm going to run through a couple of these slides that you guys are seeing these right cuz I know there's a lot of little print on some of them. I'm just going to run run you through some. What our team does

031is we look at the development. Then we've got some new satellite aerials. So, these arrows that you see on the left side of each of these screens are just from last, you know, last month. So, they're very current. Ardan Heights is one of the futures. If you see it in yellow, it's future. That means we know about it, but they haven't they haven't always filed a plat even. We don't know totally how many units they're going to be in some cases, but we know that there's going to be a development out there. And that's only 25 homes there at Ardan Baker Ranch. Now, this is 284 total lots and and they got 80 of those are futures. And you can see that that area there on the left that where they've been building homes. So,

032things are pretty strong there. You see my yield there? 42. Is that 4 42? 435. My eyes can't I brought my iPad. I can't see it. So, I'm just kind of pretend, but I'm glad you did that. Thank you. Um, that 435, what that means is we're seeing about four students for every 10 homes that are built in that in in that area because that can give you an idea in your mind. Okay, when we get to to two to 284 homes, then we're looking about 50 55 students at buildout. And about half of those are going to be elementary. So, just kind of keep that in mind as well. And and I'm I won't go through all that with every one of these, but Brentwood Country Club that those estates we we have about

033115 lots and again a yield about.35. You see crosswinds, that's one that's going to come on the radar. That's 41 total homes. No movement per per the aerial there. Just looks like they've got the r the land ready though. Um, this is another one, the Enclave at Twin Oaks. You can see that they're going pretty quick there. We've got 18 vacant developed lots, but four homes under construction. So, again, the VDLR homes are ready, they're ready to be built in. And this research was done probably six weeks ago now. So, some of those vacant developed lots or some may already have sold and they may have begun some more housing there. Meridian's another one with 73 total lots. The red dotted line that you see on that map, that's an attendance zone line. So, that's

034something in the future you might want to look at because when they start building, that development is going to be split between two attendance zones. So, it might might be something that you want to make an adjustment so we make sure that that whole development goes to one school. Um, Paul, can you pronounce that? Pauland Park. How how about there? Uh, Pauland Park got 80 total lots. Um, 333 right now, but just 60 occupied homes. So, it's it's going to finish pretty quick. Um, Prestonwood Edition 0.55. This is probably one one of the higher yielding air areas. You can see the product there. It's a pretty it's a dense product there and it's probably pretty affordable. They just have two homes under construction right now, but they have another 140 or so that will be

035built. And if you look behind that row of housing that that you see there, that that's where it's going to it's going to push out for the next phases. and Saddle Creek Park, just seven total lots, but we we didn't want to leave them out. Um, Shrin Shriner's Point 37 homes. Those are nice nice homes, good lots, good lot sizes there. Now, we just have 13 occupied and a yield of about4 there. So, that's that's going to be pretty standard. Southland Hills, I promise we're almost done with these. Um, 268 total lots, 190, those are futures. That that means they've they've dropped some lots. They'll see how those go and then they'll add that add those features as time goes. And so now we'll transition to multif family. We do have some about six multif

036family projects that are in design stages. That just means that we know that they're they're going to happen. You know that we don't know the official numbers on some of these. But you have two projects under construction. One of those 30 units of them though are senior housing. So so we're not going to see students there probably. Um and then then then you've got about a few more units being built. We do have you know 1100 1233 students that reside within an apartment complex. That's a yield of 0.17 pretty standard yield. So that means you're getting about two students for every you know for every 10 units there. So let's transition transition to talking about projections. I'm going to start out by backing up to what the state's doing. Last year, the state just added

03713,000 students statewide and we did that two years in a row. Now th this followed COVID, you know, when we saw a drop of over 120,000 students. The following year after CO, we added about 50,000. We thought it would jump up a lot more, but if you remember that that that year right after CO, there was another v variant that came out that kind of slowed things down. So then the next year, we popped up to 90,000. From our perspective as demographers, we were like, "Okay, it's b it's bouncing back. Here we go." And then la last year just 13,000. This year just 13,000. So state enrollment, it has really slowed. And keep in mind that this does include charter schools because charter schools report to tea. So this is both brick and mortar ISDs

038and charter campuses. The reason I mentioned that I'm going to go into a little more detail in a slide or two. the enrollment decreased 1570 students in in your school district o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o over over this fiveyear period you've seen some shifting as well of the re the region seen an enrollment decrease of 375 overall in in the region charter schools I want to mention these charters and I'm going to talk a little bit about virtual as well charter schools added about 14,000 students last year about 12,800 something right right in there well if you remember I said overall the state added 13,000 Well, almost all of that was in charters. So, what we begin the p

039the picture that's emerging is brickandmortar ISDs are declining. So, we didn't even see growth at all in the state, especially if you look at virtual enrollment. Virtual enroll enrollment increased by 15,000. So, I I've added that on to it. And so, now I'm talking about the state likely declined in ISD enrollment declined probably by almost 15,000 students. We're expecting statewide this year for enrollment to decline to about 20,000. That's including charters. We think we're going to see a pretty sharp decline enrollment. School of choice is becoming a real thing. A lot of homeschooling right now. We think the the homeschooling sector's probably grown faster than any other sector right now. Statewide, we're seeing a lot lot a lot of things happening. And of course, transfer students. You you know, I'm going to focus more. You

040do have about 82 students that transfer into St. Angelo, but we also you can see that Hallsville, Fort Stockton, and and the Collegiate Academy, th those are all virtual campuses. Hallsville is way over in East Texas. Um Fort Stockton, we know where that that is. So, they're not again, these are virtual campuses. They're already set up within these school districts. Now, we do you do lose about 1300 students to the charter school there. Um the te the Texas leadership school and the premier high school has some as well. So that's where you've got, you know, students that are living. You know, when I talked about your 0.25 yield on that one slide, that probably jumps up to about 04. When you add in the students that are pro that are probably here, but not necessarily

041attending St. Angelo School District, we look at one more thing. It's called newcomers and levers. Now, this is our first year to to do sangelo, so we didn't have a lot of history. We only had one one year of history. But what we look at there is we look at student IDs that were in your system last year but are not in the system this year. And we called those students a lever. Now those are students that that are you know 1st through 12th. Those are le that you know that would have been in last year's kindergarten through 11th. This year's first well I I actually pull out the 12 because we we kind of hope that they all leave. But the the the f the the 1st through 11th now those are students that

042we should have had or we thought we would keep and we didn't. Last year your your levers jumped up to 1555. That that's a difference of 613 from from the from the newcomers. A lot of people don't don't realize how much fluctuation really does does occur from one year to the other. And and I said jump up to a 1555. It's kind of unfair since I don't have the the year before that to see what your trend has been, but it's certainly a group a target there that our team I'm sure that your group or we we could provide the addresses of all those the elite levers and that's a possible marketing tool too that you can go back and see where where they might be if you don't have codes. Um student density, we

043got 279 students that are that that reside outside the districts. th those are students that are coming in the the district for school and then you've got about 2.2% of the student that that's about 2.2% of the population. Most of the rest of your student population lives right here in the city of S of San Angela. So now I'm going to talk about the forecast where first thing I start with is projections for the kindergarten classes. So we look at zip codes that make up the school district. They don't exactly match. They weren't built that that way. But we can look at because that's but that's the only geography I stepped back. That's the only geography that the state provides data for for births. So so we have birth birth data and then we we

044we look at enrollment kindergarten 5 years later. So what you're seeing there is what I call a capture rate. So if if we look at 2020 there were 1421 births in the zip codes that primarily make up this air this area. Five years late later in 2526 you had 811 kindergarten students. That's about a 57% capture rate. Um you can see that we kind of been trending down from 62 to 67 7 years ago. We've done for for this forecast for my mid-range forecast I've held you at 57. We really don't know where the bottom is in the state right now. We've seen drop in kindergarten enrollment throughout the state. Again, we we're attributing most of that to virtual or homeschooling more so than charters. I think those two are going to come to fruition.

045We're we're holding that down. So, with some of the new growth that that we're seeing from these bursts, I think that your kindergarten could get up to about 8 875 students. That'd be good news because kindergarten drives enrollment. You can see it here. Last year we dropped 4992 students. Focus on those the decimals that you see at the bottom there. Those are cohort change. That means how many first graders become second graders, second become third. So when that's not a one or higher, that means that we lost students there. Okay? It might be a 98% capture rate. we start seeing some of those what what I call those capture capture rates as well because we want to know how many many of those um second third grade graders become third and fourth grade third and

046fourth graders and we use that for our forecast so when I build my forecast I first I look at kindergarten enrollment which is and so right now in my mid forecast scenario I'm I'm letting forecast stay at that 57% capture rate and then we look at some his some some history because last year was a a pretty sharp decline, but we don't kind of let one year become a trend. So my forecast is is kind of a and actually I worked with Bob Temple on this. I I I should I said mine, but it's mine if we're perfect. It's Bob's if it comes in really far off. Okay, remember Bob Templeton. Okay. Um we what we've done here is we've kind of mitigated the the damage from last year. We we're saying la last year

047was not what what we're typically going to see in in St. Angelo. So So we're show we're showing negative change of about 200 students next year. You're going to continue to see that negative change for quite some time. I mean, we're we are adding if we add 50 homes, you'd like to think we can get 20 or 30 students out of out of those new homes, but what happens is when your high school grades are declining, you when you see those those sharp drops there, we can have one or higher 99% capture rate, you know, which is what we're doing for kindergarten through 8th, but you know, in 9th grade and 10th grade, if you look at the how many ninth graders become 10th, 10th become 11th, those numbers are pretty high and that kind

048of is what keeps you from actually seeing some positive growth and I want to share that with you because we are in in this forecast showing about 30 to 40 new students each year coming into St. Angelo but because those those last four grades kind of rob you of that overall growth that that begins to happen. We've got campus level projections here as well. The yellow highlights in indicate areas that that are, you know, reaching capacity or over capacity at some of these campuses. You see there that bottom's probably the one there with the most challenge right now. A couple of those like like Fannon, they're pretty high now, but we think that's going to drop back off because the exiting class sizes are quite a bit large larger than some of the the entering

049class sizes. Um the the Carver that just that's an automation from our system because we don't have a capacity for Carver that that's why that that's yellow there. U but we went ahead this year and did a low and a high scenario. Our company's not done that historically, but because of the historical declines that we're seeing statewide, we kind of wanted to see what it would look like if your kindergarten enrollment continues to decline. So we we haven't found the bottoms. That bottom might be 0.55 or 0.54. That's what your low scenario is showing there. So, next year's growth, it's it's about it's about 400 students different than what our mid scenario is. That way, we'd be looking about 12,000 students next year. And then we put a high scenario in in there, too, to

050to even it out. I think the high scenario is a stretch. Right now, some big things would have to happen, but three or four years from now that the yields could increase, the housing pace could pick up and and something could change, but we want we want you to be aware aware of that. Uh again, we've got um we've seen a decrease in students and that that's going to continue. Enrollment is going to continue to to decline. Even though you're going to see some small bumps at the elementary level and some of the sec the secondary level, we are going to see overall declines. I you know, hope we we can settle in right around 11,000 students in 10 years. I I talk kind of fast. I'm sorry, but I'm happy to take questions. Thank

051you for driving over and helping us. Obviously, this was in our Friday facts as well. Um, anyone have any questions for >> Mr. Rocky? >> 40. >> Sorry. >> I'm sorry. >> There you go. Can you hear me now? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. You said the average age of new home purchases or 40 year olds. >> Well, well, or >> it's actually that that might be correct. what I was seeing the average age in your area sitting right around 38 now. >> Okay. All right. And then we have the majority of them new homes being uh I guess we're getting a large retirement community coming in as well. >> There's some Yeah, we don't we don't include that in our numbers. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. But but but you you do have that.

052>> Any other questions? Obviously, there's a lot of information here and um you know, the importance of this information is when we're looking at long-term plans over the next several months. So, um appreciate you being here. >> Um I'm sure we can if we have questions in the future, we can get you back out here and um thank you for >> anytime >> giving us the presentation and having that information available to us. >> If it keeps you up at night, just give give me a call and I'll try to help. All right. Okay. >> Thank you, Mr. Gardner. Merry Christmas all. >> All right. Next, I'm going to move on to Dr. Moran. >> All right. We got a >> new long range plan discussion. >> Yep. And my hope is to give the

053board really an overview of some of the discussions we've had this fall and then um kind of chart the course maybe and give cast a vision, but really this is all about transformation. Uh we're going to start with some of the challenges. And if we can roll back maybe to the uh beginning of the presentation, we'll start with u four things that I'm going to discuss today. Challenges, current initiatives, decision points, and outcomes. And so we're going to begin with our challenges. And the board is fully aware of the academic challenges we face. I'm not going to read this to you, but you recognize uh the monitoring that TEA is engaged in with St. Angelo ISD. I had the occasion to spend time uh one-on-one with the commissioner last week and we discussed some of

054the things that we're doing academically to turn our district around. Uh we're encouraged by that. We're looking forward to the midyear middle of year benchmark scores in January and we'll be bringing those to the board uh to report in. But the truth is uh we as a district have struggled and it's not just over recent times but for some time and we intend to fix that. Another challenge we face is declining enrollment. Uh and you all have seen this. We just talked about it with Rocky Gardner and uh Templeton Zonda demographics. We also discussed this last year as we talked about a bond and planning ahead and we had projections from last year uh in the next slide that will show the um the low moderate and high projections as you've just seen uh with

055Zonda the the enrollment as of December the 8th is 12,378. To put that in perspective, um, when I arrived in this district two years ago, we had 774 more kids. In just two years, we've declined 774 kids. That's a lone star in middle school. So, that puts it in perspective for us. And when we have declining enrollment, we know that we have reduced revenues. Um, Dr. Brandon has talked to the board this fall just about uh we have budgeted conservatively. However, the next slide shows the student enrollment and the report that uh we can expect a budget shortfall this year even though we budgeted for a declining enrollment. It is declining uh at an accelerated rate this year. I think we're down 7% this year if I remember correctly. And on top of that, one

056of our challenges is aging facilities. And so the board has seen u the report from last year as we talked about bond uh work. You've seen the heat maps uh that the uh that Park Hill shared with us on the next slide. You've also seen in the hammer charts that you'll see in the next five slides. And that shows the high school, the middle school, and all of the elementary schools and our support facilities and the needs that we have in our district. And uh to add insult to injury, we have staff shortages. And so we're working through staff shortages right now. We have current openings as of today that you'll notice. Uh on the next slide, you'll see manual trades. We have 27 current openings. Pair of professionals 21. We have 30 teaching openings

057right now. Most of those are covered by long-term subs, retire, rehires, half-day people. But the point is, if those folks weren't there, we wouldn't have a teacher. So those jobs are open, if we find a qualified teacher, and we're 10 administrators short right now. And that's just a reality. That's not just us. That's statewide. Um, so the question is, now that I've kind of painted the ugly picture, the question is what are we doing about it? And the current initiatives you'll see on the next slide, show that we're doing a lot. Uh, we're supporting our teachers, we believe, through meaningful professional learning, providing resources, highquality instructional materials. We're aligning our curriculum. We are engaged in the teacher incentive aotment which you should see uh next fall teachers receiving checks uh because of that and we've

058started our head start program uh and work towards that. We've also hardened our facilities for safety. The bond program is underway. Uh we are looking at shuttering aging facilities that we're not using and consolidating elementary schools. So all of these discussions are going on and you know from talk uh talking with Dr. Brandon you've heard about the budget challenges that we are having to reduce staff to reflect declining enrollment. Our our staffing takes about 83% of our annual budget. We are uh looking to reduce utility cost as we close facilities. That will reduce property casualty insurance. uh we'll need fewer SRO's because we'll have fewer campuses. Um and so we have some decision points as a community and this is where I'd like to slow down and just really focus in on the work to

059be done because beginning with the end in mind. We talked about because of our declining enrollment, because of our staff shortages, because of our academic challenges, we're going to need to reduce our elementary schools at least to 12. We're at 14 this year. We talked about a goal of the fall of 2027 having 12 elementaryaries. So the question is working backwards, what needs to be done? Well, we need to identify which elementary campuses that we're going to need to close. And so in the next month, we're going to bring the board some recommendations and options for you to consider. We're going to give you that information ahead of time so there's no surprises obviously, but we want to make sure that we are transparent with our community, that we plan ahead. We need a good

060plan so that we land um and and we land well uh not just clawing our way through and trying to survive, but executing a strategic plan to keep our district um afloat academically, financially, and otherwise. So, as we talk about closing elementaryaries, we're going to be bringing to you um a number of things to think about, capacity, age of a facility, the ability to expand, the current uh condition of the facility, all of those things will go into helping us decide. And once we've decided as a board, uh what we'd like to do is talk about a timeline. What timeline should we consider closing those two campuses? And it may be if decline if declining enrollment uh continues that we as a board look at it and say we need to close more than two.

061I don't really think I'd like to do that but that we need to at least be aware that declining enrollment could dictate some things. U and it and it is and so at least two elementaryaries need to be closed and when we do that the timeline of closing those is either sooner or later. If it's sooner, then we feel like we're rushing our community a little bit because uh I want you to I want you to think about this. If we charge um and Miss Singleton, if you go back to the decision point slide, if we charge our community with coming up with attendance zones for 12 elementary schools, but they don't know which two are closing, they can't do their work. They don't know how to create equitable and effective attendance zones. So, we're

062going to have to decide which two to close and then talk about a timeline of closing those and charge our community uh committee with um coming up with options that they can present to the board. And this committee is really about academic stewardship and efficiency. And if we can focus in on those and uh be subjective, I think we can provide you the board with good guidance and good recommendations so that you can make good decisions for the community. And then once we establish those zones, I think we should give our parents at at best uh a year. It'd be nice to have a year to plan for that because that's going to generate discussions about how we handle uh kids who are currently at one elementary that are now going to have to go

063to another elementary and how we how we work through that. But parents, giving parents a year's heads up um I think is is really important. Well, that means that we need to be giving you attendance zones by this summer. That means that we need to engage in the attendance boundary work this spring. And that means we need to decide which elementary campuses to close pretty quickly. And so, uh, by doing that, next fall, we'll be able to talk to our community about which elementaryaries are closing, which attendance zones are set, and parents can plan for that, and we can work through all of the uh, the processes that will be necessary to engage in a complete reset uh, and really a transformation. By doing this, what we'll do is we'll fill the campuses up with

064kids who live in the zone. will allow uh campus principles the authority to be able to handle the kids that live there and not uh compete with transfers in and out of their schools and really not knowing who they're going to have. And so the outcomes are good. we can have greater academic achievement, uh get out of trouble with TEA academically, have safer campuses, stronger teaching teams, uh higher teacher retention, fewer employee vacancies, effective long range budgeting, and greater stewardship of our taxpayer resources. And so really, this whole fall, we've been talking to you about all these things that are leading up to things that we as a board are going to have to decide. Um, and these are not easy decisions, but they are decisions that are necessary. And so at this point, I'll

065pass it to Dr. Kingman and open it up for questions if you have any. Um, so obviously um, some of this was in our Friday facts as well or yeah, Friday facts as well. Um just to uh clarify what I think I'm hearing on timeline for our parents and administrators and everyone else and for board as well. What Dr. Mar is saying is we by finding by determining what schools will close soon. That doesn't mean that they will close this coming August. >> That's correct. >> It would they would close at the time of the resoning. >> Yes. The fall of 27. >> So the fall of 27. So we would be able to get no school would close prior um to the process of reszoning and closures all at sequence at once. So students

066don't have to move multiple times, teachers don't have to move multiple times, administrators don't have to move multiple times, um support staff doesn't have to move multiple times. um you know to but to where as a district you know we look at how to make sure we are providing each student in our district all the resources possible for them and if we are stretched too thin we've talked before about the average size elementary schools and uh that how TA funds schools and our size of elementary schools that if we don't figure out a way to do this then We're robbing the kids that are in each of these campuses because we're not able to give the resources necessary to support our kids. If if we don't if we can't figure out how to make these

067campuses um the right size when if they were built for a district that was projected to have 18,000 20 years ago and now has 11,000. We got to that's a reality and it we can't just pretend it's not a reality and we have to come up with a solution that um fosters growth in the district so that to Dr. Moran's point like we have to get our outcomes all of them um better and to do that we have to make some tough decisions any uh so I just wanted to clarify that timeline. >> Yeah, I'm glad you did that. I should have stated that. But yeah, and one thing that the board should keep in mind is that as we declining in enrollment, we we recognize that we are going to be uh facing a

068budget shortfall. And so, you know, the temptation is and was as we talked about this earlier this fall behind closed doors in our cabinet meetings is we probably need to close schools sooner than later, but is that fair to the community? Is that the right thing to do? So, there's going to be this push and pull of we need to close, but we also want to to treat our community and families right and take our time and be methodical and get it right. But by doing that, we're going to face a budget shortfall. It's going to happen. Um, and so just be prepared for that discussion as well. Um, so because I make sure I'm on the right page, as of right now, 26 27 school year, which is next school year, everything will be

069the same. As far as schools, >> the plan is to keep everybody the same until the fall of 27, unless the board through discussion decides that it it should be different. But that's kind of that's where we are right now. And really, it's out of respect for our parents and our kids, our staff. We want to make sure that we're methodical and we get this attendance boundary work done right and communicate it well and give parents time to plan for the the change. >> And Dr. We're in just um on our bond update. I know we didn't get it tonight, but like on our pre-agenda >> by August of 27, most our elementary expansions should be finished. >> That's right. >> For by August of 27, everything that was bond approved to rightsize our elementarymentaries

070would be finished by that time. >> Yeah. McGill and Fannon should be done. Crockett's going to be done earlier. Uh but you know that was another thing. The question that we asked the uh the uh Park Hill a couple of times is are you sure it'll be done in August of this year? And uh we hope that that's the case, but we all know how that works. And uh this is again out of respect for our teaching staff. We don't want to finish that building August the 1 and expect to move in and start school two weeks later. That's a tough ask. And so, uh, we're we're trying to be a little more methodical and, uh, and and thoughtful about planning to get things right, make sure that we, uh, we treat our staff and

071but the reality is it's going to be a it'll mean a budget shortfall and staffing will still be a challenge. >> And, um, when he when Dr. time a budget shortfall just to make sure I'm on understanding that would be when we go make next year's budget our budget you know we've been able to do a balanced budget and we've had um health insurance or Christmas bonus or whatever in there um that trying to make that a balanced budget we obviously will have to have a projection of how to we long-term have to have balanced budgets in this district or we can't continue to exist Um, but we'll have to look at how we are creative about a year where we know where I think the projection is $900,000 for closing of an elementary school.

072That's what we found with Oklahoma. um where we know there's some money that gets reallocated where people don't lose their jobs and people and students get served with this with the same or more robust support but it's right size to the actual size of our district. to give those supports which we desperately need when we are have six campuses and we'll have to figure out a way as a board to continue those supports for a year in the interim if we doing it this way or we can't we can't stop those supports or we'll be have other problems. >> Yeah, I just want to make a comment to reiterate a point that Dr. Keeman made that obviously a lot of this is and Dr. Maran mentioned this as well. A lot of this is guided

073by trying to be efficient from a financial standpoint, but also, excuse me, also we're not necessarily doing right by these kids by having them in schools designed for 600 people when there's 250 people in there. They're not functioning as built or intended. And especially when you compound that with aging facilities that are outdated and need updating. Ultimately, we're we're doing this to save money and be more efficient, but we also want to improve the product and make sure that we're doing a better job of teaching these kids and and doing it with the facilities the way that they're really the occupancy that they're designed to have. So, that's all I want to say. Thanks, Other questions for Dr. Moran or comments? Obviously, this will continue to be a topic we um go through and um

074as a board, we'll have to sit and work through this and um make sure that we do this systematically so that we do end up with a product that actually provides the the product that we want for our children and for all the children in St. Angelo because they deserve it. So, all right. Um, I'm going to take um some leeway if it's okay with the board. I'm going to move action item E up to our next topic and that's consider authorizing the superintendent to negotiate design build contract with E3 Integral Solutions. Um, I know y'all been here for a while this evening, so I just want to move you all up. And so, Dr. Brandon, sorry about no heads up, but we're doing it. You're good. They've been very patient. Uh so we're um

075Dr. Keeman, Dr. Moran, board of trustees. We're pleased to have with us uh this evening um several representatives from E3 um Lance certainly probably familiar to many of our board members, but I'm going to have them come up. I'm not sure who all who's doing the presentation, but I'll let y'all introduce yourselves and so the board will uh we've got a long-standing the district has a long-standing history relationship with E3 several different projects HVAC and LED lighting. Uh they've done a great job. Uh we've appreciated the time that we've spent in developing the scope uh of our HVAC projects and controls, electrical panels. So um we'll let they can walk you through that. Thank you. Dr. Moran, members of the board, Dr. Brandon, it is a honor to be here. As you mentioned, this is

076not my first rodeo with your district. And um anyone who's hung hung out long enough with me has heard about San Angelo ISD. Uh over my long career, I have worked with districts across nine different states, and I always point to this district. when you look from top to bottom, the professionalism of the staff, the administration, and just sitting in your board meetings and watching the interactions between you guys and your staff is just it's topnotch. So, kudos uh to you guys for that. Um I'm pleased to be joined by a couple of wonderful gentlemen. Uh Colton Henrix is our lead design engineer. He's done a lot of work with he and his team uh to put together the design that you're going to look at tonight. And then um uh we're being graced with

077the president of our company, Josh Combmes. Uh glad that he was able to uh be here as well. So I know this is probably hard to see. Um I don't know if you probably can't section that off, can you? >> Um >> We have it at our desk. Lance, >> you you've already got it there. Okay. Um looking at the top portion, the base project, this is the RFQ for design build that was put out uh over the summer. And uh it consists of three um main scopes of work. The first being the HVAC system uh retrofits. Uh we obviously looking at the districts that were included in this um uh in this scope. You can see there there's uh 1,538 tons of heating and cooling involved at these districts. And so we're going to

078and we were really looking at targeting the district wanted all those units that are 15 years and over that are beyond their life expectancy um were targeted. The second scope of work is the controls retrofit. That is retrofitting your controls across the district. Uh we did a pilot project this summer at Tucker and it went very well. all the energy managers and even maintenance have said that it's been very good with regards to uh how those were operating and continue to operate well. Uh the third one is the electrical panel upgrade. Um the switch gear at Oaks is very old and needed to be replaced and there's a number of Federal Pacific panels uh across the um other Lonear Middle Saint Angelo Stadium and Sanorita Elementary that are going to be replaced as well. Um

079the original budget estimate for that when the RFQ went out was 22 million and the price for that is 15,615,596. So what this did is this really is we came on your uh into your district and walked your campuses. We're doing controls everywhere. So, we did a full mechanical scope and administration realized that there's some other buildings that need to be addressed and that's what you're going to see down in the additional projects at Central Bonum and Crockett Elementary and Glenmore Elementary. That's an additional 861 uh tons of heating and cooling that will be taken care of there. If you look at Crockett and Glennmore elementaryaries, there are a number of units that are sitting at 14 years. by the time we get around to replacing those, they're going to be 15 years old as

080well. So, they wanted those included. So, of the original 22 million in the budget, uh after you add the owner contingency of $150,000, we're looking at 19,900,292. And on the alternative project on the bottom over at Lake View, we don't have all the full scope worked out and the design worked out there, but uh that's something that the district or administration wanted to look at being able to handle um you know after the holidays into the new year. >> And I I'll speak to that just uh a little bit. the with the design by Park Hill at Lake View. Uh we just want to make sure that we don't double uh any units. So once we have a complete scope of work from Park Hill Architects on Lake View, then E3 will come in behind

081them and we'll take off any units uh that are being replaced by Park Hill. Uh and then uh we look for that number to fall under the 1.8. We just don't want to do two scopes at the moment. uh when we can come back and add that project as soon as we have that from Park Hill. >> But that's all I have. So, open it up for questions. >> I have a fairly simple question. I appreciate appreciate you guys for being here. So, and ignore my ignorance, but uh what is the benefit of doing all these units all at once versus just earmarking the money and then replacing them as they fail? That's a great point and I don't want to be the only one talking so I'm going to turn it over. Um, you

082want to handle if you don't mind? >> Yeah, excellent question. Um, and I and I wanted to share something with you guys tonight on this project in particular. Of course, E3 does projects all throughout the state of Texas. We've worked with dozens and dozens of school district and occupied facilities. Um, this project in particular, we probably got the best pricing on HVAC equipment that I've seen in 5 years. And as you guys have probably seen or heard, the cost of construction and especially the cost of equipment has gone up dramatically. Uh, you guys have gotten a phenomenal price on this project and that's driven absolutely because of the size of the project. So there really are significant cost efficiencies and as you all know inflation continues on. Um that's a that's a big deal. One

083of the other significant things for school districts especially in the maintenance staff is getting uniformity of equipment so that they can maintain it well. They can stock parts, filters, everything they need to execute their job with excellence. So those are some of the primary benefits of doing the project all at once. cost savings for cranes and everything too. >> Sure. Yeah. Lifts everything on and on. Project management, etc., etc. Sure. >> Excellent. >> This may be a Dr. Brandon question. So, but y'all too, cuz y'all have looked at it all. So, obviously our goal with this with the allocation during the bond was to get to where we could then um our outdated infrastructure, so everything 15 years and older, replace it, get it right. And then as you're looking at the our HVACs that

084are 9 10 11 12 years old, what happens when we replace all these at once? What happens to us 30 15 years down the road as far as replacing them or and how do we make sure we have a plan to get keep those um to do that on a staggered way if um if we don't pass another bond. So, um, from a district perspective, um, we'll have to make sure on our 5-year replacement cycle, uh, that we have that covered. Uh, one of the things that, uh, Mr. Kennedy and his team has been doing is we've closed campuses. Uh, we've gone in and removed, uh, any units that are, you know, less than 5 years old. So, by the same token, uh when Glenn is, um redone, uh any units that are probably less

085than 10 at that point, we'll pull uh for other units to replace. So, as E3 moves out, Tony and I have had the conversation that we'll begin to replace those that hit begin to hit 14 and 15 two years out. So, mostly, I mean, it's on us to make sure that we've got that replacement cycle. And then uh the district has always been good uh in developing uh over the summer an an amount of money uh to go into HVAC. Uh we've seen that over the last three years, you know, be up around a million dollars to where we're going to replace a certain number of units every year. What this does, we never could have got there without the bond, honestly. But once you get this many units replaced, it puts us in a

086position that we actually could do a replacement cycle by campus each year and then stay on stay on pace. >> Yeah. And Dr. Brandon, if you don't mind, let me let me add a little bit to that. U having been in this industry for about 25 years and and watching school districts and it really fascinating uh information on the demographics today, it's very hard to predict what's going to happen in 15 years, right? I don't think 15 years ago anybody would have predicted the decline in enrollment that we're seeing, which is not driven by this school district. It's driven by dynamics that are outside in many ways of your control. Um, I think that I see a lot of school districts today more and more and more addressing aging infrastructure from almost a maintenance perspective,

087a maintenance replacement perspective through bonds. And that's driven because as you all know very well the the aotment the financial aotment per student has been stagnant. And so costs are going out the roof and your dollars are not following that. And so maybe 10 years ago, 15 years ago, 25 years ago, there were school districts that were able to replace their HVSC equipment by budgeting it in their M budget. today. That's not happening very often. So, you guys are not alone in that. That doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't try to replace what you can. But what it probably does mean for you and most school districts in the state, they're going to have to continue to pass bonds down the road to address these problems. Unless something, of course, changes on the way money's allotted

088to school districts. Other questions for E3 or administration >> just a what's the timeline like how long will it take to do the whole project >> no change >> okay >> you want me to take that one >> sure I think so I mean >> so uh we we're uh looking to have in the contract 575 calendar days. Now, that that is unlikely to take that long. Uh there's usually things in a project like this related to controls that that take a little while to sort out some of the bugs. Um we will try to get a big chunk of this project executed this coming summer because that's the best time for you and that's the best time for us. However, E3 always works on projects as possible. So any break, potential long weekends, spring

089break, Christmas break, we will be working to execute this project as fast as we can. >> Thank you. >> And I and just from an admin level, when we look at this project and we just talk about closing elementaries, etc., it's in this that we can exclude those things if we end up deciding we're not going to go replace panels on something we're closing a year later. Yeah, we're going to be coordinating that obviously and so that's even more reason for us to make some decisions like that. But yes, coordination. >> All right, other questions, comments? >> Dr. Keman, I know that we've worked with E3 in the past and it's been a uh a fruitful relationship between uh SISD and E3. uh they've done some projects uh some uh fairly large projects for us

090in uh AC replacement AC HVAC replacement in the past that have gone very smoothly. Uh controls switch over has been smooth. So, uh, uh, I'm not sure if there are any more questions, but, uh, or comments, but with, uh, with that, I'd like to move the board to de delegate authority on the superintendent or designate to negotiate and execute exhibit A of the AIA document 141 with E3 for the design build of districtwide HVAC controls, HVAC equipment, and electrical upgrades as presented by the administration with a stipulated sum of $19,900,292. $2 including $150,000 owner contingency. And I further move the board to authorize the superintendent or is designated to negotiate and execute a contract amendment of the AI AIA document 141 with E3 to amend the scope of work to include the HVAC replacement on

091the Lake View High School uh in the amount not to exceed 1,881,150. >> So I have a motion from Mr. Dindle. Do I have a second? I will second. Um, do any further board questions or comments? Again, Dr. Cayman, I mean, a buy of this size for um, a company does create an economy of scale where we can come in with some fairly good prices on some AC units. And uh I can tell you that right now the uh uh the price of equipment or hard goods in the trades continues to to build uh one because of the just the general situation uh of the economy and two because uh we can continue to lose smaller vendors to uh just attrition and so the the uh the market becomes smaller as far as vendors become

092available to supply specific product. >> One thing I want to say is, you know, this is something we told our community we were going to do with the bond project and to have uh and I appreciate E3 y'all working so quickly to get this done because obviously we didn't want to spend any money on it before the bond passed. So, we appreciate the fact that y'all have gotten those things done so that really 12 months after the bond passed, we can be working in our schools to get this done. And that's pretty amazing. Um, so thank you all for y'all's hard work to get that done quickly so that we can start getting that done and getting this the projects we promised the community we're going to do with the bond done. And thank you

093to our admin team for doing that as well. It's again momentous because we've been spending two 3 million a year in worst to first projects uh taking care of the the older schools uh the real old schools that have uh units 25 26 years old because they have reached their lifespan. And so this will not give us a break, but it will give us the opportunity to again budget uh some of that amount to continue to uh upgrade those systems as we move forward. We have a chunk of these uh schools that uh are in need of replacement. Now, >> all right. So, hearing no further board comment, I have a motion for Mr. Dindle, a second for myself. All in favor say I. With a lift of their hand, I all again say the

094same. All right. Motion passes 60. Thanks for being here, guys. >> Thank you'all very much. >> Thank you. >> All right. Bear with me. We're going to go back to consent items now. Um, and so that's item 10. And we have minutes for our November 10th and November 17th pre-aggenda and regular board meeting. We have a bid on our curriculum instructional materials. There's an add bid 2518 which was discussed consider the cooperate purchasing organizations uh bid 25-015 which is a maintenance transportation miscellaneous supplies and then library books which is going to be um kind of a continual thing for us with the new state legislature. We will continue to be getting that and posting that on our website and then working through that each and every month um at least for the foreseeable future. Um

095any board questions or comments regarding consent items A through E? Do I have a motion to approve consent items A through E? >> Make a motion to approve uh consent items A through E. >> So I have a motion from Mr. Gagos. Do I have a second? >> I'll second. >> A second from Dr. Mills. Um, any further board comments or questions. And again with an I and a raise of hand. Anyone who's in favor say I. I. All again say say the same. All right. Next we're going to move on to our action items. First we have our bills and accounts. Um, we get to that right page. But this >> 81. Sorry. Um, so these are the bills and accounts and financial statements for November. Do I have a motion to approve the

096bills, accounts, and financial statements for November 2025? >> Dr. Cayman, earlier in the in this meeting, we did uh review uh synops financial statements for November 2025. In addition to that, all these reports uh can be found in their entirety online at our website SISD under a subtab called financial uh responsibility. And with that, I'd move to approve the bills and accounts and financial statements for November 2025. Do I have a second? A motion for Mr. Dindle and a second from Mrs. Duncan. All in favor say I. I. All say the same. Motion passes 6. Now we have our quarterly investments. Do I we've also just discussed this. So again, Dr. Cayman, we also discussed this earlier in our meeting. Um moving forward and again this report can also be found online sisd.org organ under

097the under the uh to have financial responsibility usually included under the uh bills and accounts but uh the move to approve the uh quarterly investment report ending November 30th, 2025. I have a motion from Mr. Dindle. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> A second from Mrs. Duncan. All in favor say I. I. >> All say the same. Motion approve. Sorry, I didn't raise my hand. Sorry. Motion approved. 6. All right. next donations. And we're going to figure out a cleaner way to do this, but um we're still working with the new state law, so we're going to I promise we can come up with a cleaner way to do this. Um do I have a motion to approve the donations as presented? >> I'll make a motion to approve the donations as presented.

098>> Motion from Dr. Mills. Do I have a second? >> A second from Mrs. Duncan. Any further board questions or comments on donations? All in favor say I. I. Jerard, raise your hand. All right. All against say the same. Motion passes 6. So we're going to get used to doing that, too. All right. Next, we're going to Dr. Brandon, we're going to consider an inter interlocal agreement for interd district transportation. Dr. Keeman, board of trustees. The uh this item probably needs a little introduction uh seeing as it was tabled a month ago as we talked through the uh situation. There are a lot of components to Senate Bill 204. And certainly some of the things that we have learned uh over that time period is it was created that if a basically that if a

099school district agrees to not have any stipulation on students transferring in their district come one come all and they post that on their website and they follow that transfer policy they are not required to request the interlocal agreement. If a school district is going to post parameters for entrance into their district, they do have to reach out uh to a school district uh to request that interlocal agreement. Uh so we uh have spoken to uh Christoval ISD superintendent and they did request that this remain um on the agenda for this evening uh for the board uh to consider and I'd be glad to answer any questions. Um, I believe the sent most of the items, most of the facts around the case and what we were uh referenced back to from legal counsel uh so

100that we knew we were taking the appropriate steps and measures. And so glad to entertain any questions or comments. >> So, I just want to reiterate if a district had had no parameters on who could transfer to them, they wouldn't need this agreement. Correct. they they could just put buses into our into a neighboring district, whoever whatever district it is. >> Is only the fact that Kristoville ISD wants to have the ability to have parameters on transfers that are accepted into Christoval from outside that is required in this agreement. >> Correct. Okay. >> And what parameters are those usually that is the ones that you have listed right here? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Steps A and B. And then um the sub sub bullets I double I and triple I uh in

101each one of those um you can kind of tell honestly I think the legislature was trying to open up choice uh when they did this. As long as the school was not going to uh put any barriers against a student coming into the district and they were going to help them find a way to get there. So, >> so without an interlocal agreement, like I said, without one, could they come in and get kids? >> They can. They cannot. >> They cannot. And um >> if they if if their transfer policy states, "We're going to, for example, say we're going to check your grades, your attendance, and your discipline." Fairly standard for most districts. if they're going to check any of those uh to allow a transfer, if that's going to be a prerequisite or

102criteria. >> So, pick to get in. Yeah. It doesn't allow them to pick and choose, >> right? Then >> if you're going to pick one up, you're going to pick them all up, the ones that regardless. >> Okay. >> Um then they'll have to they will not be able to pick the students up within the district. >> Any further board questions or comments? So, I mean, me personally, I've wrestled with this because of a there is a reality of ADA and our decreasing attendance and um but I also in some ways it's easy for me cuz my wife and I have already decided that the best place in St. Angelo and the surrounding area for our kids to be in school is Angela ISD and we don't really have any concerns about that. And so,

103but I'm not where I do have concerns is if the state legislature is opening up to let for parent choice like is it really our board's job to prevent a parent from being able to put their kid in school where they want to put their kid in school? And um I may not agree with where they think they should be putting their kid in school, but it's still they're the parent who gets to choose that. and whether or not that's my job as a member of the Los Angeles Independent School District to tell them they can or cannot put their kid in a and then have their kid bust to that when the state legislature has opened that up for public schools across the state. You know that I think that's you know I do

104have some concern about that. So, >> and if I can make a comment, you know, one of the >> discussion points that we had was, uh, who's going to police this? >> Exactly. >> You know, if a bus goes into another district, picks kids up. >> Um, I mean, I don't I want to maintain good relationships with our neighbors. I don't know what their transfer policies are. I don't look at their website to investigate how they manage their their transfer students. Um, so whether this is approved or not, uh, you know, I still ask the question, who's going to police it? And if someone violates that, then what? >> You know, so I don't know. Um, I don't know. >> Well, like Dr. Kingman said, you know, my concern since 2017 has been the ADA

105effect on our school district because, you know, that's that's money out of our school district when they move over there wherever they're going. And um that's why I asked back in 2017, I said, "Look, we're losing kids." I mean, you had schools, I mean, districts coming in here and just taking kids. And I remember asking that question, is there anything we can do about that? They said, 'Well, there's a it was brought up to the AG, but he just never had an answer to it. So, he finally provided one this year. But, um, you know, I I think I think I've said this before to Dr. King and everybody, but, you know, west of I35 out here, you got to do what you can to keep your kids. You do because I mean, you know,

106you're losing kids left and right. We were doing that back in 2013 and it it's just the same. You know, you start losing them left and right. You got to do what you can to keep them. And it's hard because east of I35, you know, I mean, you lose 50 kids, you're going to gain them again the next year, you know, because I mean, they got so many like Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, Austin, you know, they don't worry about that. Well, apparently they did in Gatesville and so so but yeah, I mean that's my concern is the ADA is the funding. It is the funding because I think what is it Merl? How much is it per student? >> Well, the state was 6255 per student. I mean, you're losing that, >> you know. >>

107Yeah. So obviously it's a >> it's a something that's been wrestling in front of boards, you know, as far as to your point like with your kids like you make a rule you can't enforce that's hard to do. Um and then you know the reality you know my my solution and is that San Angel ISD is so good >> and it's performing so well that no one wants to transfer to a smaller district unless maybe they just want to have a smaller campus or whatever but and that's personal and that's a parent's choice. Um but that our product is so good. I think the way you fight this is with your product and um with great teachers and um great campuses and by doing that you you fight off the ADA loss because you're doing

108something you're doing better than you've previously done. Um, so that's how I think about how we should and then you're still being good neighbors. You're just out competing them and you're, you know, you're still being a good neighbor. You're still letting them do what they want to do for their school district, but you're you're performing, you're producing a better product. Um, so I will make a motion because I know Gerard will still love me afterwards. um that that we approve a interlocal agreement between um St. Angelo ISD and Christoval ISD in regards to implementation of Senate Bill 204. Do I have a second? >> I'll second that. And I like to say I I I I totally understand what you're saying, Mr. Goss, but I don't think necessarily I want to be involved with either

109coercing parents in a subtle way to put their kids here if they don't feel like this is the best place for them. I whether I agree with their decision or not, I don't know if that's something I would want to do. >> Well, and like I said, I'm not trying to coers parents to make them leave their kids here, but I just like you like Dr. Moran said, there's no there's no teeth to that law. Okay? There's no teeth to it. And um you know, but you're right. Yeah, if they you know, they want to move them, they can move them. But I just don't understand why you put something in place, but then you can't do anything about it. Yeah. But that's just how I've always felt about it. So So I have a

110motion for myself and a second from Dr. Mills. Any further board comments or questions? So, all in favor and keep those hands up for a second so I make sure I look. Sorry. All in favor say I. >> All against say the same. Motion passes 51. All right. Next, we're going to go to item F, which is TASBY policy uh update 126. And I think Dr. Moran's going to present this. Obviously, this what we discussed at our >> You bet. Well, this really isn't much of a presentation because you've seen the policies. You know, they've uh we've reviewed those. We've poured through those. Um uh there's nothing there right now that would cause me pause except to recommend to you all to adopt um policy update 126 as presented this evening. >> Any questions or

111comments? We obviously talked about this at our pre-agenda. Um, and you know, there's a lot of this that comes out of the legislature, recent legislature, and a lot of these are things that, um, theoretically should have be um, policy as of September 1. Um, and so we're, you know, we got to get these things done so that we're in uh, compliance with the state. Any questions or comments? Dr. came and we had significant conversation during a preend meeting about several of the policies, the semantics, some of the wording, some of the some of the subtle changes that were out there. So, did a pretty good deep dive into that. So, with that, I'd recommend the board add, revise, or delete local policies as recommended by the TASBY policy service. and according to the in the

112instruction sheet for TASBY localized policy manual update 126. >> So I have a motion from Mr. Dindle. Do I have a second? >> I'll second. >> Ladies first. We have a second from Mrs. Duncan. Um you did press your microphone. Um any other board questions or comments? All right. All in favor say I. All right. Hey, everyone raise your hand. All say the same. Otherwise, we're going to do roll call. I'm I'm not I'm going to follow the wall. All right. Next, we're going to go to item G, which is consider the 26 27 school calendar. And everyone should have a copy of that at their desktop. And I'm going to let Dr. Moran >> All right. like to draw your attention to calendar option C uh which we think is a happy medium after

113discussion and really most of that revolved around November November 9th the week of u veterans day. So our recommendation tonight to the board is to adopt option C which gives that Monday to recognize that day but yet it's not in the middle of the week. Uh and so we will feel a lot better about student attendance that week, but it preserves everything else. You'll notice uh the first day of school is August the 13th. That's a Thursday, and that's typically what we've done, a Thursday, Friday. U and then if you'll look in May, you'll notice that the last day of school is the 21st. Graduation is the following day, the Saturday the 22nd. And that concludes the school year prior to um >> Memorial Day. Thank you. >> Any comments or questions regarding the school

114calendar, which we also discussed last week. >> Um I appreciate the work that went into calendar C. I think that the Veterans Day, not in the middle of the week, is a is a good thing and Easter. And I also want to um go back to because I thought this was a big thing for teachers and everyone to know because we talk about spring break and then Easter and then as an educator out there we talk about the long haul and the long haul is from spring break to the end of school and that's a tough time because it is spring. We're at the end. We're tired. But it was eyeopening to know why there is no holiday in April. And that was because every single day in April is a testing day. And the

115state tells us those days. They're not optional. So we of course have to be at school when kids are being tested. So, um, if no one else has a comment, I'll make a motion to approve the San Angel Independent School calendar 2627, option C. >> So, I have a motion from Mrs. Duncan regarding option C. >> Second. >> I have a second for Mr. Gos. Any further board comments or questions? All right. All in favor say I. I. All against say the same. Motion passes 6. Okay. Our announcements. We'll have our finance and pre-agenda workshop on January 12th and our regular board meeting on January 20th. And with that, we are adjourned. Thank you'all.