San Angelo ISD School Board Meeting - July 14, 2025

001Evening and welcome. Good evening and welcome. My name is Amy Miselle Flint. I'm the vice president of the San Angel ISD board of trustees. I'm filling in for Taylor Kingman, our president, who's out of town today. Um, I would like to welcome all of you who are present at tonight's pre pre-agenda board meeting. We appreciate your interest in the activities of our students and the business of SISD. All items that will be discussed at our meeting this evening have been posted as required by state law. Also, as you may be aware, our board meets a minimum of two times per month and most of the items on our agenda this evening will be discussed tonight and voted upon at our regular board meeting. As members of the SISD board of trustees, we are here to

002set goals, listen to reports from our superintendent, approve budgets, contracts, and personnel appointments, and make policy for the district. Please keep in mind that our meeting is a meeting of the board of trustees held in public and not a meeting of the public. However, we do have a public comment item on our agenda that allows anyone present who wishes to speak to our board team on an item that is not on our action agenda or an item on the agenda an opportunity to do so. Please provide your name and contact information and the specific topic you wish to address on a public on the public comment form located at the back of the room prior to the start of tonight's meeting. Should you want to offer public comment, please listen carefully and comply with the

003following rules so that we can move through this part of the meeting efficiently. Each speaker will be given a total of three minutes. The district will provide an official timekeeper. The district's timekeeper will report and record the time. You will be notified when your time is up. You are to stop speaking and return to your seat. You will not be given extra time. Please respect the privacy of others and refrain from identifying students, employees, or any other community members by name. Disruption of the meeting will not be tolerated at any time. Comments on any subject, whether positive or negative, must be courteous and respectful. Comments are limited to the specific topic that you indicated on the form you filled out. Any speaker with a specific complaint about a district employee decision or operational issue should

004present that complaint through the appropriate mechanism, which is the district's formal grievance process. Speakers with a specific complaint will be referred to the district administration for information about the grievance process. If you already have a pending grievance being processed by the district, you will not be permitted to speak about the grievance during public comment. Also, please understand if you offer public comment that the board cannot reply to you except say thank you for your comments since the matter has not been posted for discussion. I ask that you please refrain from talking while others are speaking. I also ask I remind my fellow board members to please turn off or silence your cell phones. Again, thank you for being here and thank you for your support of SISD. Okay, we'll go ahead and say the pledges

005of allegiance. United States. Nation Now I see why Taylor misses those kids when they're not here. Okay, I've got uh two people here for public comment. Um the first is Chris Matlock and he'll be speaking about SP 401. [Music] Well, my name's Chris Matlock, 1413 Dural Road here in St. Angelo. First off, want to say thank you for allowing us the time to to make public comment. Um, we're here to, um, implore you to vote to not opt out of homeschool participation. Um, I have four kids, ages 15, 13, 11, and seven. Woo, took a minute. And, um, the 15-year-old will be a freshman, um, this incoming year. He's very excited, um, if SASD was to pass this, that he would be able to participate in soccer. Um, back in 21, they passed a bill

006that would allow homeschool to participate here in the state of Texas. They added an incentive in 2023 that it would allow $1,500 per athlete or per activity per student that participates. And then just recently um in most recent legislation in 25 they flipped the default from a no to a yes. With that said um you know it's it's important to know that 1,200 districts in Texas um only roughly 5% adopted the policy in 21 which um legislation was not too happy with. So they have gone back. I've listened to all of the committee meetings. I watched the bill um follow through the Texas legislative system and it was I believe a vote of like 105 for the majority on passage of this legislation. Um our local representatives u Drew Darby uh they both voted yes

007to the bill as it was as it was presented. The bill went through with no amendments or changes um as it as it made it way made its way through the policy. Um it's important um that to me for our kids to get to participate. We I'm a able-bodied um person who pays a lot of taxes to this school district. Um even though our kids do not come here for their um curriculum and for their for their education, we are very much just as involved in the community uh attending things like homecoming, different events that SISD offers. My my son was able um TLCA does offer this and he was able to play there um last fall and we had an overly good experience, but they don't offer soccer. Um you know, SASD just has

008more more opportunities and more things that they offer in their programs and it would give um my kid the opportunity to participate in those as we do pay our tax dollars. And um you guys get to set the policy, you get to make up the rules for how it works. Um, it can be as arduous or as easy as you want it to be. Uh, we we fully plan to adopt whatever rules you put in place, whether that be the standardized test, grade reporting, vaccinations, whatever that is. So, I hope that you guys will not vote to opt out of it and that you will um look at the kids in the community. It probably wouldn't be too many and that uh we get the opportunity to try this out this coming school year. Thank

009you. >> Thank you. Next we have Jericho Matlock. Um also speaking on SP 401. Hello. Uh my name is Jericho Maloc. I'm 14 years old and I turn 15 next week. Um I'm going into the ninth grade. Uh I'm standing here speaking today because I love to play sports, specifically soccer. Uh, soccer helps me keep me active and as my mom would say, uh, helps me use all the energy I've helps me use all the energy I have stored up. Sorry. Um, I have played soccer since I was 5 years old. Uh, I started playing for SASSA when I was around but when I was 10, uh, I started playing for Elite. Elite is a travel team. I did that for four over four years. So now I'm playing for league on Sundays here in

010St. Angelo. If you would allow me to try out and possibly make the soccer team, it would mean a lot to me. While on the field, I'm learning teamwork, discipline, and building character. Uh, I'm ready to show up and work. I just need the opportunity. Um, continuing my education at home allows me to focus on my classes and family life at home. Being involved in UIL activities gives myself and other homeschool students the opportunity to interact with the community. Um, I've played soccer with a handful of friends for over five years um on club teams and all of these all of my friends go to SISD and it would give me a lot of joy if I had the opportunity to participate with them. And so if you would allow me and other homeschool students

011to participate in UIL events, we would have the opportunity to build new friendships and be a part of something positive that can be a bridge for be a bridge for this community. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you, Jericho. I also know how hard it is to stand up and speak. I really appreciate you getting up and talking. >> We'll move on to our uh finance and audit committee workshop with Bill Dindle. >> Thank you, Miss Flint. We've got we have several reports tonight. First on the agenda is our bond 25 2025 update. Dr. Brandon is going to help us with that tonight. Mrs. Meisel Plant and Dr. Moran, members of the board. Uh actually, uh R.J. Lopez is going to hear from Park Hill with us this evening and going to give us

012a bond update uh on construction. >> Hello again, Miss Flint and members of the board. It's great to be back here and giving an update on the 2025 bond projects. We are underway underway. We're meeting daily now um on these projects and we're excited to get them going. Um let me see here. Um so some of the next steps, we've already talked about the packages for construction. We'll go over that quickly. Uh the next project that's um an action item later on is the Crockett Cafe and Classrooms and I'll run through that scope and how it relates to the bond. Uh we've also got the Seymar criteria and then I want to run through just a couple of the U meetings that'll be coming up that you'll probably be hearing about some of the uh

013the the principles and and staff that'll be uh meeting over the next uh month or so. This hasn't changed since the last time you've seen it, but just the over the course of the the next four years when certain projects will be um completed. You can see some of the safety and capital renewal projects would be some of the first projects and then as we go on the larger projects would start to to come online. a little more uh detailed schedule with one to highlight which is that uh package three uh the Crockett right sizing project and that shows um the project actually starting construction in August and we are on schedule for that to happen with uh with tonight and next week's action item to go over quickly the scope of the Crockett Cafe

014and classrooms. I know we've talked about it a couple of times at the bond presentation. What y'all have seen here is the 2012 existing classrooms. This is the existing campus showing some of the 1998 classrooms and the 2012 um building. The plan was to build a new kitchen, cafeteria, and then also to build uh new classrooms onto that existing wing. When we started looking at uh and additional parking there uh just to the right hand side of the kitchen and cafeteria along with additional drop off drives uh to help with some of the the the pickup and drop off times as well. when we started actually looking at uh doing an addition and um the efficiency of building two different pieces onto the building, it made a lot more sense to combine the new classrooms

015with the new kitchen and cafeteria. So, let me move into an existing aerial photo. And you can see this is the existing field to the right with some of the parking spaces. And then the design that was bid out actually has a connector hallway onto the classroom wing, the eight new classrooms to the south, and then the new kitchen and cafe um to the north there. And then you can see to the south of the classrooms, you'd have a new basketball court and new playground. So the discussion was, you know, at at Fannon and at McGill, they both received uh new playgrounds, new kitchen or new basketball courts. And so it made sense that um when when doing these improvements at Crockett to kind of keep a consistency of new parking, new drop off drives,

016um and new basketball court and playgrounds as well. Um, one thing that was discussed during the bond planning was that there would be six new classrooms and that the old kitchen and cafeteria would actually be demolished. And when we got into the design of demolishing the old kitchen and cafeteria, it is actually the heart of the existing classroom wings. And so if we demolish the existing kitchen and cafeteria, it would remove the uh electricity going to the existing classroom wings. And so all of that would have had to been replaced in the classrooms that would in the future actually uh be replaced. And so it didn't really make sense to tear down that kitchen area. And in talking with the the principal, they can they can really find a good use for for that space.

017In building the new cafeteria and kitchen, we built new plumbing. So, you know, there there used to be a lot of issues with the old kitchen and cafeteria with the sewer pipe and with the water and with the electricity. The new kitchen and cafeteria has brand new, you know, sewer and brand new water, brand new electricity service to where all of the new facility will be um completely ran with new services including an upgrade to the lift station. And so that moves to like the next uh conversation about this project is that this is part of right sizing. But while we were here, we also did safety and security improvements. And so the fire alarm system was upgraded across the entire campus. Um, also was the um the the notification and safety system, the paging

018system that's in every single classroom in the existing campus. And then we also looked at certain doors and access points and did improvements on those as well. Um, so not only did we do the right sizing projects as far as the expansion, but we were able to do some of the capital improvements with the new water, new sewer, and uh some of the um safety and security improvement. So, we were we were hitting really three different kind of pieces of the pie that we were showing uh during the bond. And I have those those items listed here on this slide that I I ran through, but you can see some of the right sizing projects that we did such as the kitchen cafeteria, the eight classroom addition, and sorry, I didn't I didn't really touch

019on it, but we were planning for a six classroom addition. Instead of demolishing the cafeteria, we were able to actually add two more classrooms to that classroom addition. So, they'll they'll have a little bit more room um at Crockett u based on on not demolishing the cafeteria there. And we actually did that as an alternate and bid that separately. And those classrooms to add those on to the project came in at about half the price they would have if you would have built them standalone. So, you're you're getting a really good bang for your buck to add those on. So, it just it just made sense to to go ahead and move forward on that. Um, we're listing here the capital renewal projects, new sewer, water, electrical, upgrades to the lift station, and then, as

020I discussed earlier, the new fire alarm system, and new panic buttons throughout the existing campus. So, all of those are within the bid that we received, and that would be part of the action item for for next week. Any questions on the addition at Crockett and the plan there? >> Questions for Mr. Lopez? >> Yeah, I got a couple questions. Um, do we know what what was the original budget supposed to be? Like, >> so the the original budget is uh >> Sorry, I didn't Sorry, I thought I had it listed here, but the original budget is >> 11.6 6 million would be the overall budget if you include the right sizing, the capital renewal and the life safety and then uh 10.3 million was the bid from Lee Lewis. >> So are we going

021to renovate the cafeteria at all or is it just going to basically leave it as is? >> No, leave right now it's being left as is and there's not a specific purpose for it. Um but the the principal they're looking at how they would use that space. >> All right. Thanks. >> So for what you were saying those that cafeteria would be two classrooms. >> It no the the cafeteria instead of demolishing the cafeteria we were actually able to build two new classrooms. >> Okay. So the the the budget that was yeah set aside for demolishing the kitchen and cafeteria was actually able to be used on having two new >> uh classrooms. >> Good space for large assembly if they need it in in that area for sure. Just wide open space. So that'd

022be good. >> Yeah. >> I mean this may be a dumb question but do we need the extra two classrooms? the extra two classrooms could uh potentially help in the future um as part of the the long range master plan. Yes, it it would be helpful because uh eventually the the classrooms on the west side you'd want to replace. I mean they're they're the 1998 classrooms. So, I mean, it's weird to say they're they're almost 30 years old now, but the more classrooms you can get, um, and they're also not as connected to the new addition. So, the more you can have under this new roof, the better. >> Thanks. >> Okay. >> Go ahead. >> Hi, sir. So, when we're replacing equipment, say for instance, like the playground, what happens with the um like

023the old playground? what will what will become of that? >> Uh, typically the the contractor that's doing the demolition would would recycle it if if uh you don't have somebody that's willing to take it. I mean, there there is the opportunity to donate it, but some of those with the the concrete footings that they have and the structures, it's almost impossible to move them uh at a cost that makes sense. So, if you have somebody that knows what they're doing and can um move it at a decent price, then y'all can make that donation. But typically, the contractor would just uh uh recycle it as part of their demolition process. >> So, it's up to the contractor what he he or she wants to do. >> Yes. Right now, it's just the contractor would be

024removing it as part of the project. And I may jump in and just say there are times when we have a piece of equipment that's not old and we'll we'll look to re uh repurpose that in the district. >> Uh if the whole playground is older, then that's just part of the job is to to demo and get rid of that old. But >> I would clarify that right now all of the new playground area is in addition to the existing. So this wouldn't be necessarily replacing what we have. It would be adding on to what is already there. >> And then real quick, Dr. Moran, I don't you could probably answer this or Dr. Brandon, like say like the playground equipment or any type of equipment, we can't sell it, but we have to

025donate it because we can't sell it to make a profit out of it. Or can we? Well, you can sell we can sell things that we're disposing of per our policy uh uh depending on what it is and there is a method to to sell that to someone else that can repurpose it. And then an example would be like light poles. If we were replacing a lighting system and we had light poles that we were getting rid of, there might be a smaller district, a rural district that could use those and that's an example and they would then purchase those from us for fair market value. Yeah, that's allowable. >> Additional questions. >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Lopez. We appreciate that. >> No problem. And I've got the Seymar scoring criteria. It's pretty uh

026detailed here. So, uh I put it on the screen. I think y'all already have it, but if you have any questions, I I'll be here. It's pretty common. Just trying to make sure that the contractor that you bring on board uh has the uh experience and expertise with your specific type of of projects and can provide those type of projects uh at the the quality and speed that you deserve. I mean that's essentially what all those are trying to get at. >> I forgot to ask you, you probably said it. What was the start date? uh as soon as possible. Yeah. Uh I think within two weeks uh we're we're in the permitting process right now. We've asked as asked for an expedited u earthwork permit and we're waiting on that. So I think within

027uh within two weeks, >> okay, >> of pulling the trigger of the action item, I think we should be good. But we're we're talking to Lee Lewis and they're ready to go. So you know how they are based on uh previous projects with Miguel. >> Other questions? >> Okay. Thank you, R.J. Appreciate your uh trip down here. Still going. Yeah. >> Yep. No problem. Sorry. And I know I asked for I didn't want to keep moving if y'all had questions, but um couple other things. We're just uh we're very excited. On Wednesday, we're going to walk uh Glenn and Central and Lake View with our team of project managers, uh architects and design professionals, uh and principles, um and Carl, uh to talk about the the scope, uh the um what was discussed during the

028bond process and to really kick off the design of these projects. So, it's an exciting time to to really get all of these going. It's really it's the first step, you know, one of probably a thousand, but it kind of signifies really getting these projects going with a really large uh team. So, we're excited to get those going. We'll we'll be looking at uh after that going and u looking at example campuses around the state. So, we'll look at example middle schools and high schools, example uh auditoriums and gymnasiums, and sometimes we'll do that with pictures and example videos. And then sometimes we'll try to do that with with tours um so that you can see that because a lot of times if you've been in a 70-year-old building or 90-y old building, you don't

029even know what you don't know. So, we like to try to give the experience and really let uh the principles and educators kind of touch the the actual facilities and feel the space and experience what a high school for, you know, three or 4 thousand students is can can feel like that's been built in the past 20 years even. So, um, we're excited to to kick off some of those, u trips. And then, uh, lastly, we'll just start talking about every single space in the building and making sure that the the list that we put together during the bond process that we make sure that we have, uh, every uh, bathroom and storage space and classroom taken care of. So, that's that's our initial task. Uh, and then we'll move on from there. So, it's

030exciting to get going and we're looking forward to it. That's all I've got for you. >> Okay, additional questions. >> Okay, Mr. Lopez, I'm gonna let you go now. So, sorry about that. >> Next up again, Dr. Brandon with the compensation plan for 2025 2026. Yeah, take just a second to get there. Had about eight different documents open at the same time this afternoon pulling all the information together. Uh we're going to start this evening just with a quick u so one uh the legislature took uh some amount of time right to finally end and let school districts know what type of financing would be available. And so we normally would cover revenues in June, expenditures in July, but we had to pause uh through the month of June and into the beginning of July

031uh as we found out what those amounts were. So, we're going to kind of do a quick catch up uh with um where we start in the budgeting process and then um take a look at the compensation plan from there. So, here you'll find the factors influencing the budget process and certainly the top lefthand corner the legislative session. Um every two years uh what we do hinges on the decisions that are made at that level. uh new facilities, bonds, uh inflation, enrollment and attendance. We've talked about how important student enrollment and attendance rates are. Uh increases or decreases in property values and then recruitment, retention of staff. We know that um our property taxes uh go toward our maintenance and operation that pays pretty much everything that we do within the school district. And we

032know our INS interest in syncing uh is related to our bonds and so those funds uh can be used only for the bond uh and the bond projects. Um homestead exemption is on the list and will be of great interest in November. The legislature has posed that uh that $100,000 homestead exemption will be increased to 140,000 and then to 200,000 for 65 years and older. our state aid. Outside of our local taxes, we also receive funding from the state uh based on enrollment and then average daily attendance. So, you don't just get paid on the number of students uh that are enrolled in a school district. You get paid by the percent of daily attendance normally in the neighborhood of for us 93 94%. Um you get you receive additional funding uh for special programs

033um compensation uh compensatory education, summer school, uh at risk special education and then our career and tech classes uh generate additional funding. the eight golden pennies. We've talked about at some length and the board was successful uh last year in the tax ratification election and we certainly appreciate the community approving uh the swap between INS and MO to approve the three golden pennies uh which now has given the district all eight of those and then an increase in our basic aotment by $55 uh approved by the legislature. So what what really came out of the legislative session? Um teacher retention aotment that really was the focus and the main emphasis of the money that was sent to will be sent to school districts is focused on increasing salaries for classroom teachers. You can see that

034that amounted to 4.5 million. uh it must be spent on classroom teachers. Teachers that um have five plus years of experience will receive $5,000. We have 724 teachers uh in that category and then teachers 3 to four years will receive 2500 and we have 97 teachers uh in that with those years of service. There was also a s support staff retention aotment who's helping make those things happen in the classroom. That's an additional $476,000. And then a basic cost aotment for all things that have increased uh electricity uh property insurance um all the things that have come along with the district. So besides that, school safety uh increase from 15,000 to 33,540 per campus. and then a per student increase of $10 to $20. So, we'll realize uh from last year $464,000 to an increase

035uh for that to be just over a million dollars in school safety. And then special education received $1,000 for each new evaluation during next school year. Last year, we did 180 special education evaluations. And so, we just base the estimate at this moment on last year's number. We see just a quick look at property values uh how those have increased from n 2019 through 2023 24 to the point that we found uh the $9 billion for property values in St. Angelo ISD and then the increase uh from 40,000 to 100,000 on homestead exemption dropped that value from 9 billion to 7.2. too. And then again, we find ourselves this year, which this is I want to I want to let you want you to know that we appreciate it, right? Our taxpayers very much appreciate

036the homestead exemption, although it does drive down property values um from 7.2 to 6.5 billion uh in the increase to 140 and then 200,000. So you can see that we do show a drop. Uh but in this case the state picks up the amount of that value that will not be generated now in local taxes. The state will basically hold harmless that and make up the difference. >> Dr. Brandon for the next guaranteed for the next two years. >> Yes sir. >> Guaranteed for the next two years. Right. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And so with the with the um our property values were estimated at 7.4 4 billion and then with the homestead exemption then the budget was built at 6.5. Here's just a tax rate compression uh what we've seen in the school

037district um since 2018 a drop in taxes $14 down to 69 cents and we'll see compressed again this year and the year after. And then our INS tax rate was dropped over that same amount of time. the board being very conscientious to try to bring that amount down. We now have passed the bond in May. Uh we will see the increase um there for the new bond. Student enrollment uh is some an area that we continue to monitor. You can see all the way back in 2018 with over 14,000 students uh we finished the year at 12,800. Uh so we start there and then an expectation of a 1.3% drop over this next school year. And then just a quick look at our student attendance. We know that funding is based on student attendance. Um

038you can see where that uh was higher and then COVID and then we've slowly began to kind of get traction again uh to bring that back up over 93%. This is just a table of the House Bill 2, new school funding. So, we did receive approximately 6.3 million in new money. Um, knowing that 4 million must go to the teacher increases in pay. The budget was built on the student membership of 12,800 at a 93.5% attendance rate and then a 1.3% decline. uh looking at our demographic study and uh using those numbers. So we budgeted on 11,812 in our local taxbased revenue on the right side is 2526 uh compared to last year. You see that drop of 3 million from 43 million to 40 is the uh homestead exemption. And then everything else fairly

039consistent. Uh we do see a drop in interest earnings as we have paid uh for our capital expenditures at McGill and at Fannon. Um some new buses, some capital outlay for band equipment. All of those things come into play. And so we did do we do see um a million dollar loss in interest earnings projected for this next year. State revenue is in white federal in green. You see where the foundation school program um went from 51 million to 62. That's the increase from house bill 2 and the hold harmless by the state for lost revenue and the homestead exemption. Once all of that comes together at the end of the budget, local, state, and federal, 132 million last year, $138 million forecasted for 2526. And that you notice that that $5 million in new

040money is very similar to what we saw come out of the legislature. So immediately the four million will go into teacher salaries and then the other million will take a look at um what that can do for us. So once we have the revenue then we can start building out our expenditure projections. Most of that based on staffing we know 82 83 84% of our budget goes to salaries every year. So we look at the staffing projections, capital outlay and employee compensation. One thing that we did do uh beginning back in March, April, uh TASBY um conducted a pay systems review for the district just to make sure that when you look at um our trades, you know, we lose electricians, plumbers, HVAC, uh to industry. And so sometimes there has to be an adjustment

041in those to make sure that we keep people uh quality individuals, certified individuals in the district. And so that's what we find uh from that pay system review. They from the very beginning they do a data collection uh and then a market pay review and then they build models for improvement or aligning or help us align our pay struct structures. The objectives in doing something like this with TASBY is to recruit new employees to the district, pay for the job value of the employees that we have, retain employees, keep from losing them to other districts or to industry, and then control cost, right? So that we know where to budget year to year. These are some of the market districts. The idea was to know what does the industry look like close to home and

042then what does the industry look like in other similarsiz districts. Midland, Odessa, Leach, Abalene, Witchaw Falls, sometimes what we would refer to as our peer districts. All 17 districts were used in the analysis uh for the pay recommendations. So since this is part of our compensation plan, I need to kind of walk you through your packet. So each one of you should have a copy of the 2526 compensation plan. And this is what we've done is take taken last year's compensation plan and then highlighted any changes. So we'll go through those and then you're welcome to ask any questions. For example, on page one, literacy coach where you see uh that line through that was moved to uh administrative professional 103. On page two, guidance support counselor under 103 was new. Literacy coach is the

043move that you just saw from page one from the T family. Two deleted positions. In 104, a board certified behavior analyst new and then coordinator of data services was moved from IT um data processing manager uh to that coordinator position. In 106, director of construction projects is a new position uh that we've talked about for the bond projects. Director of early childhood moved from 105 to 106. So from the 17 districts, right, every one of those has the very similar positions as we have. And so the TASBY consultant looked to see where the positions that we have aligned with other districts and then made suggestions if they felt like we had them in the wrong spot. So that's where you see some of the changes in from that recommendation. Uh director of student services and

044school safety moved from 105 to 106. And then director of curriculum instruction elementary and secondary Some of them where you see the yellow on the high on the uh maximum was just once you move somebody in a pay grade or they have a certain years of service then that has to be moved um where they fit within the box 110 the the position uh that was in 110 uh was not replaced. So that's moved from the removed from the compensation plan. Paygrade 300 information technology job family. We see some changes in um 305 and 306. Just an increase on the maximum side of the box. Paygrade 400. The clerical profession pair professional job family on instructional aid was moved uh to uh clerical professional 401. And then there was a differential uh placed on that

045to signify between aid one and what we would normally call uh aid 2 uh 1361 per hour on a child care aid designate. Job row 405, child nutrition inventory moved from 406. Accounts payable clerk from 404 to 406. That was one that's one of the few that you see a jump in two pay grades. Uh but all of those came back from other districts to where our accounts payable clerk was showed up at like 80 82% of market. So we were that much lower than the other districts in that category. licensed vocational nurse from 406 to 407 and then payroll clerk um from 406 to 407. in paygrade 500s and 503. The groundskeeper moved up one pay grade to five from 502. Bus driver in training um there was an adjustment there from and then

046painter moved from 504 to 505. Carpenter one pay grade up from 505 to 506. And then you see several in 506 that move from 504. Dispatcher router, special education router, and transportation specialist, cabinet foreman 506 to 507, the same as HBAC mechanic. Those adjustments are just like we talked about in the industry, what those individuals are making. Uh it was a TASBY used both both the school districts and a comparison in the market industry of what the hourly wages were for these positions and then kind of blended the two to see where we were and some of those were we were paying slight slightly less than other districts or the industry. So that's why you see the increase. And then the next few pages are stipens. There were really just a few an increase in

047our substitute rate from $100 to 110 per day, a half day from 50 to 55. A little bit of adjustment on um you see down there accompani um child nutrition $12 an hour to 15 uh depending on what that job was. Cook, server, monitor $10 to $11 an hour. and then class coverage substitute from 30 to 40 under athletics. Helpers in the gymnastics program see a slight increase 12 to 1250 an hour. And then if they have a certification or two years competitive from 14 to 15 an hour. And then uh certifications and or college degree from 15 to $20 an hour. A a deletion of supervision of student seating in academics. The behavior support inspire program is an increase in that stipen from 1500 to 2,000. A deletion of transition lead in special ed.

048And then a special education inclusion teacher would receive a new stipen of 1,000. Department head was a slight increase in middle school from 1,000 to500 and in high school from 1500 to 2,000. And then that next page, the swimming head swimming coach, there was additional duties assigned for middle school and then travel involved to attend the middle school meets. So there was an increase from 7,000 to 9,500 in an additional 5 days. On the next page, you see the signing bonus uh assistant speech pathologist uh was deleted. high school chemistry physics teacher, that one-time bonus pay. And then this, you see two more deletions on the one-time uh bonus pay, speech pathologist and interim intern, sorry. We added uh certified public accountant. So, that's a $1,000 ad. We've always had a master degree extra or

049uh doctoral. So we wanted to try to reward uh individuals within our business offices finance if they went and gained additional certification. Doctoral degree went from a,000 to500 and then a master degree from 500 to 1,000. Couple of deletions there at the bottom in transportation. So that's the stipen schedule. Same way, all of the stipen recommendations came out of the TASBY study. The next two pages, we'll just look one at a time. So this is our teacher hiring chart. Our minimum pay for a firstear starting teacher is 50,000. Then what you see from there is uh mimicked in house bill 2. uh district. Our recommendation is to do 1,500 each for the first and second year teachers just under the required 2500 on the third and fourth year teacher in that increase column. And then

050from there down the rest of the page you see the 5,000 that's represents any teacher that has five year five or more years experience receiving that $5,000 increase. And then because of House Bill 2, we had to do a designation with a non-instructional teacher that may not have be uh in front of students for at least four hours a day. So, we've taken those positions and also created a district recommendation of $1,500 increase um through those positions. Okay, any questions on the TASBY study before we go a little further? I have one question on the teacher um increases. So, for the three-year teachers that receive 1,500, um, as they go into the fourth year, would they I'm sorry, the two-year teachers that say that give 1500, would they go up to the 2500 next year?

051And then the same thing for the four-year teachers for the next year when they're five years, does their salary increase also? >> Correct. >> It does. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Um, one of one of the components of the compensation plan is employee health insurance. And so you have a copy um with the three the three charts on the single page together. The bottom graph is the employee health insurance shown here. The TRS active care plan called for a an increase of $41 a month in the premium monthly premium of every employee. So in 2425 this past school year, the district has contributed $479 a month. If we were to assume the full $41 to continue and offer a zerocost option, that would be 520. The cost to the district to go from $479 to 520

052is what you see in the per year cost, $713,000 for the year. The recommendation uh from the district will would certainly would be we need to consider at some point when do we stop that? Whether that's $479, is that 500? Um if we were to pay $21 a month from the district and the employee pay 20, that would be half of that amount. the 713,000 would be approximately three a little over 350,000. So when we get to the end and you look at some options, there'll be some recommendations that we'll get to. Um that amount that we pay is more than almost every school district uh in the area. I think it is the is the most in TRS. There's one other district out in Erie County because they had to switch insurance providers. Uh

053their insurance provider I believe a year ago went under and was left with employees without insurance until they were able to come up with a plan. So um in that TRS plan there there's a couple of options there that we'll talk about. That's what it looks like on the employee health insurance. And if we concentrate before we go into staffing projections on the chart, I want to kind of walk you through uh what this looks like. So on the top right hand corner, St. Angel compensation considerations. We have to take into account House Bill 2, teacher retention aotment, the TASBY salary study recommendations, and the consideration of a 2% general pay increase. So when you look at the chart, what I've tried to do is take and take account of employees by job family, administration,

054instructional technology under the family category, uh manual trades, um professional and you see the teachers by year, one to two, three and four and five plus and then non-instructional teachers. And then we have the count uh for each one of those. And then to the right of that is what each one of the three increases amount to. So House Bill Two, you see each one of those increases 94,242,000 for the 3 to fouryear teachers and 3.6 million for the teachers with five or more years experience. We also have to pay the benefits, the TRS retirement. Um, so once you put the benefit total to House Bill 2, it's 4.4 million. Um, and that's our expectation from the legislature to spend on teachers. The TASBY recommendations much smaller number th those few changes that we discussed

055in paygrade or uh supplemental increase uh per hour. Uh you see that the TASBY recommendations by family uh end up being 30 67,000 12% benefits 44 so for a total of 411 and then once all of those are taken into consideration there are a few employees left uh with the 2% um GPI general pay increase and you see that that total is 700,000 uh on a 2% which is half of what it normally would be when we talk about a 1% raise in the past, you know, it's always been 800 to 850,000 for 1%. Um, so all of that totaled compensation increase 5.6 million that added to last year's um salaries with benefits 109 million was 115 total. and then reducing from that 5% of the non-insured employees. We ensure about 85% of the employees

056in the district each year. So allowing at least a 5% uh there was a reduction and then we cut you can see from this slide 30 positions to try and coincide with the loss of student enrollment a decrease of 1.6%. uh that was a savings of 1 million and so we end up at 113,944,000. That amount that total amount of compensation consideration for salaries go straight into the chart on the top leftand corner from what the slides that we looked at from local, state, and federal revenue was 138 million available revenue for the year. Payroll 82.6% of the budget at 113 million. An increase in contracted services. We've increased each one of those supplies and materials and miscellaneous operating to get to a zero uh balance budget. So everything that you see on the right

057side, all of the compensation considerations are p part of a balanced budget. We've got that um kind of defined in this chart. And then where the 113 million translated to payroll with available revenue at 138 million contracted services, supplies, operating expenses uh to get to a balanced budget. Now what are the options? Certainly for the board to ask questions and decide you have an option page one 1 A 2 2 A and three. You'll see in each option the House Bill 2 teacher retention pay increase has to be implemented. So that's on each one. You will also see the house uh house bill 2 non-instructional pay increases has to be spent. And then the third line on each option is the TASBY recommendations. We feel like that is important. Um, we spent the time and

058money on the study to try to align ourselves with other districts and with the market. And that was fairly small amount of the 400,000 given um everything else that is in consideration. And then the differences for the remaining employees um for the teachers, this is probably going to be it's in the neighborhood of an 8 to 10% raise is what the legislature did. So that certainly is the lion share and that's that was the intention, right? The intention from the legislature was to reward class sorry classroom teachers whether that's through the teacher incentive aotment or whether it's from the legislative um raises and that's why you see that reflected in an 8 to 10% increase in salary. The recommendation could be a 2% for remaining employees in the district on one and then one a

059That's 3%. Option two is back to the 2%. Um, now option one is keeping the $479 that we currently pay. So the $41 would be paid by the employee for health insurance. $41 a month. In option two, you see the 2% 3% but the district pays 500 a month. the district assuming $21 a month for a cap at 500 and the employee paying $20. And then option three is if we pay fully fund the health insurance at 520 a month, pay the 713,000 and then um do the 2% uh for other employees that did not receive House Bill 2 money or TASBY salary increases. that if you can imagine 1,800 employees, the spreadsheet that came back from TASBY. So, we would look at that and anyone that would moved a box in a pay scale,

060if for example that raise was $1,200 and a 2% raise was a,000, that employee would get the 1,200. Every employee would get the benefit of whatever is higher, the 2%, 3% or the TASBY recommendation. And we would do that line by line. We have a copy from TASBY with every employee. Questions about the options? Anybody? Dr. Brandon on a couple questions. What's the uh the 2% to 3% recommendation? Uh it looks like the the 21 the $21 increase for the uh the insurance is about a little less than 40,000 per year. Is that about right? 378 somewhere in there >> for the for the 479 to 500 >> for 1800 >> employees about 350 60,000. >> Okay. >> Yeah. for us to pick up the $21. It was if we pay it all, it's 700

061713,000 per year. And then if the district pays uh half of that, it would be half of the 713. Okay. All right. Okay. >> So, what's that? >> 2A >> that Well, I'm just looking at the differences between a 2% and a 3%. >> Okay. what's the the effect of the budget for that and then the effects of 479 to 500 and 500 to 520. So the the amount >> if you look at the um I think one good way to to see that is in the 2% GPI the top right hand corner of the in the green >> since this only affects half of the employees in the district because half of the employees are teachers right >> and the other half are not. >> So um it's smaller number than normal. So the

0622% is 784,000 >> right? So if you take that in half, you could add that back. >> Add another add 350 for that one. >> Yes sir. >> Okay. >> So that's 350,000. If we go to 3% and then if we uh go from 479 to 500 that is 450 450,000. And then if we go that again >> from 500 to 520 that's another roughly 450,000. >> Yes sir. >> And if I can offer uh some of the discussion is really philosophical about uh how much we want to contribute to all of our employees. So this this would be a good example with seven board members. uh let's say that six of the members took the school insurance and we wanted to contribute towards the school insurance, then that one member really doesn't gain or

063benefit from that. Um in my former district, 54% of our employees took the school insurance, which is low. >> Yeah. >> So, the the way we approached it was we didn't contribute nearly as much toward the insurance, right? We took the remaining funds and tried to push that into percentage raises so it affected all of our employees. So part of the conversation that we've had is uh not that we don't want to contribute towards the insurance but we know that 80 what was it 83% >> it fluctuates around 80%. >> Yep. 80% takes that uh insurance the remaining 20% of our employees >> wouldn't really benefit if we pushed the money towards the insurance premium. So, uh, that's that's an option for the board to consider is if you want to because we've talked about

064how do we get to 3% for our employees, for all of our employees, >> uh, other than the teachers that are impacted by the teacher retention aotment by the state. So that's one way to look at it if you want to approach it from that perspective is um because that that premium is going to continue to grow from one year to the next and at some point the district's going to have to decide to either continue or discontinue that practice >> and so just a thought. >> Okay. >> On the TRS I know does do the employees have the choice now or did they didn't used to have a choice. You had to be TRS or >> they have a choice. They have a choice now because they didn't used to have one, did they?

065>> Once you >> Yeah. I think there was a time that you had to pretty much just take the number of employees and put them in. But >> put them in. Yeah. >> You know, when when a husband and wife both have a policy, their benefits to only paying one set of deductibles and not two. And especially when you have a family plan. So, >> yeah, >> I don't know if I'm not sure how creative we we're allowed to be with this, but I'm just thinking the impact of $41 a month on, you know, an $60,000 a year or $80,000 a year is going to be much less than on somebody who makes $28,000 a year. So, are we able to based on um the pay the pay um class determine whether it's like the

066full value of insurance or half or you know what I'm saying? Like because in that way I mean if we give somebody a 2% raise but then we charge them $41 more dollars a month that's kind of kind of going to take their 2%. So I don't I don't know if we're able to do that or how much room we have to wiggle but I thought might be an interesting discussion. I'm not sure about that. >> So, part of our discussion was exactly that. This morning, Dr. Brandon and I talked about the impact on the hourly employees versus contract employees. >> You know, it's again, it's a philosophical discussion of do you want to give your employees the the money and let them decide how to spend it? um which there's value to because for

067some of them um you're right that premium increase is going to eat up some of that money but at least they would have the the ability to control how that money is spent if it's included in a pay increase but u anyway >> yeah I know in the past we've broken out the family 400 and family 500 and given them slightly more >> and then let them determine how they wanted to move forward from that point. So instead of just two, we've moved those some sometimes, but we at this point we've moved some of the boxes, right, Dr. Brandon, where >> Yes, sir. >> Some of those some of those employees are going to get >> and one of the big focuses certainly was uh manual trades, right? >> That you saw most of the

068moves uh to try to keep up with industry. So >> um and I think um >> Miss Yes. could you come up with a way to do that? I think you could do it by job family, but even in even in manual trades, you'd have to think you may have someone at 30,000 and someone at 70, >> depending on if I mean if they're a >> um a master electrician, uh master plumbers, like a position like that. So even in that job family is tricky. Uh they may make more than a starting teacher. So, >> I have to um I have to say that I'm a little or a lot taken back at these starting wages from the paraprofessionals and the manual trades. You're talking about people with families that are coming in and a

069lot of times they're the heart of the of the campus and these starting rates are alarming. They have families. They're they're running around. They're they're running the show a lot of times. I mean, you can probably agree with me in your practice. If it wasn't for your assistants, for your nurses, for the the front desk, you know, woman or man, it wouldn't run. These rates, these minimum rates for these very important positions are are really, really low. I think that needs to to be looked at >> 100%. Uh we we agree uh that this TASBY study uh that has has taken place is exactly what you're referring to. They look at the market and what the market is paying uh not just in schools but in hospitals and other things like for custodians, grounds workers,

070those those type of employees. And um you know it's it's unfortunate that some of them are that low. Uh the good news is if someone has experience we don't bring them in at the minimum. Uh that's the good news. But uh this what you're looking at is the scope from one end of the spectrum and on the organization to the other and TASBY has taken the market looked at it given us recommendations. So everything you're seeing here is reflective of >> market >> those positions in the market. Uh, and I'm not saying I like it or agree with the pay on all of it, but that's that's where it came from. >> So, these are just recommendations from TASBY. These are not what's set in stone. >> Well, as a district, we can choose to

071pay, you know, whatever we think is fair and and right. But, uh, typically you, you know, you want to survey your area districts and the market, comparable schools, and and try to be, uh, competitive. You don't have to be at the very top, but certainly competitive. >> Uh, one more. I noticed it said there was 30 positions that were removed. Is there a list of those 30 positions? >> We've got those. HR's got those and we can provide those to the board. Yep. Specifically. Yeah. A lot of those were through attrition, through consolidation. Yeah. >> And what makes the compensation plan critical at this point in the year is uh we won't vote tonight. So any questions that you have, you can certainly call me, email me, and we can talk through those. We'll put

072this back out to the board next Monday night. Um any suggestions that you make I can send to the board in Fridayfax so that everybody sees that before we get to Monday night. Uh what is critical is that we adopt the compensation plan next Monday night because on Tuesday open enrollment begins for insurance. And so families will decide, you know, am I going to be on the middle program and pay um a certain amount a month? Am I going to stay on the entry level program? Right. Every family that's a different decision, but we need to make the decision by Monday night so that they can start their open enrollment on next Tuesday. Yeah, Miss Carter. Since I've been on the board, it's been the angst of the school board to see that we try

073to again take care of all of our employees as best we can. I know that the boxes look on the low end are very low, but is there's a 50% swing in there between high and low. Still still uh not what we'd really like to see that, but it's the it's the fact of the way the state uh helps fund school boards when they uh give you uh five or six million dollars and it all goes to teachers. So, um we have to take care of beyond that. I mean, the teachers do need to be t taken care of, but there was there's no fluff for our support staff that came in from the from the legislature this uh this bianium. And so, again, you saw the uh the increase uh in the in the

074aotment from $6,160 to another $65. That $65, that 6160 has been the same, the student a lotment has been the same since 2019. So we have as far as the as the our budget is concerned we've not received any more for students beyond that except in the special programs from $65 of course if you do the simple math that's what is that 810 of 1% for six years of inflation which doesn't compute for for family but that's the uh that is the uh situation that the school board uh deals with and in order to maintain a a balanced budget we have to look at at I would say harshly a lot of times to make sure that we cover everything again at this point 83% of our budget is going to be payroll which is

075norm so we have everything else beyond that uh to keep the lights on to keep water running to buy buses to uh gosh uh yeah you take your pick everything that by paper uh by pens whatever all that stuff comes out of the remaining 17% which gets really slim. So, um you know, in the end, we we we hunt for those pennies that we can have, especially since we went to TR, we got a little more uh funding from that, which is we're certainly grateful to taxpayers to see through that uh the the way that the school funds uh it didn't cost the taxpayer any more money, but it made the state pay us more. And so, again, uh as as the state continues to compress our budget, they have I was asking Dr. Brandon

076again they have made us whole for the next two years and so we have to maintain a sustainable position as we go forward as we add expenses to our once we say yes again to uh a 1% increase that's $375,000 for and that's that's just a 1% increase for all our employees. So, it really gets tough when you see uh if you move a percentage from we give a person a 35 or 40% raise and we go and we count all the employees, all of a sudden we've got $375,000 that we're hunting for. And hence forward, that's that's something that we would have to maintain in order to uh just uh bear the status quo moving forward to keep the employees at their same at their same pace. So, it's really it's it's a tough

077it's a tough road. It's uh you're it's eye opening for sure. Did you see that? Uh and again there's there are some wide swings in that a minimum to maximum and the midpoint stuff like that. So again as we bring them bring on employees we try to take care of them as best we can but it's uh it's it's it's a it's a tough road. So yeah, I wish it I wish they were more in the uh I wish it was around 75% where we'd have uh additional funds to move from uh just general operation to payroll or something like that. But it gets it just gets so tight that uh it's it's it's tough. So we look at that again you know we're looking at 1% payroll is you know all of a sudden

078you throw another million out there and it's it gets a it gets a little crazy as we move forward. So again, uh, but great questions. Again, that's why I'm asking. What do we move from 2% to 3%. What if we took the trades, the manual trades out and moved them from 3 to 4%. Is it is it fair to the other people? Uh, and those are the questions we'll come up with on the next next week because we are in a tight budget process right now that the state has finally come out and let us know what our actual funds are. uh which is uh a blessing finally because we are usually uh way down the road as far as this budget process is concerned. So again, uh we look at the end and we

079look at any sort of residual that we have and that's when we start saying, can we buy two buses? Can we at at a half million dollars? >> Can we buy band instruments for a half million dollars? I mean, for a district this size, I mean, that's not unreasonable every year. Um so definitely definitely challenges uh and and and and eye opening for the general public as to how the state funds schools >> definitely challenging. >> I I am encouraged that a lot of the manual trades went up a class. >> The box has moved. Yeah, that's how >> that and some of these some of those classes are are 10, you know, 8 to 10% higher than they were in the previous class. That's that's a substantial >> increase which obviously deserved. That's the

080market rate. So I'm I'm encouraged by that part of it at least. >> I get it and I agree. >> Yeah. >> But I still think it's worth looking at and seeing just like we um >> you know looked at those 30 positions that were removed. We can still look somewhere and try to make something happen because that's >> ridiculous to say the least. You're talking about comparable to concession pay. You're talking about people on the front line that are there doing the work, quote, quote unquote dirty work. They're hands-on. They're they're in the mix. They're the ones doing the work. We have to we have to retain quality people. Those are the ones guiding teaching our students, our kids. That is something worth looking at a thousand% >> in my opinion. >> Oh, agreed.

081Agreed. Yes. >> One additional comment the board should be aware of is the state was very specific when they defined what a teacher was. >> And in the past we've included counselors, librarians, u instructional coaches, interventionists in that teacher uh job family. And this this definition of teacher is a person that's in a classroom face to face with kids four hours or more a day. So it really has eliminated some of the individuals and positions that have typically been included >> and there's a reason for that. I mean they did it on purpose because they want to attract people into the classroom because of the teacher shortage. So uh I think you should be aware of that because it you know uh the the state was very intentional to make sure that the the money

082that was most went to classroom teachers. And so when we uh consider this compensation plan, that's going to be reflected in that. >> Absolutely. >> But don't be surprised by that. It's different than it has been in the past. >> Yeah. >> 2012, we saw uh what they call sequestration, which uh we probably lost 10 to 15% of our staff because the state cut funding. And so at that point, we saw a lot of kids re-evaluate their position in life as to whether they would come into the teaching profession at that point. And from that time 12 years later now we see the results as not as many kids are entering the profession and it's uh challenging to find uh good staff as well as good teachers. And if I can just add that this

083is where advocacy work comes in for schoolboard members and superintendent and um some of that's trying to be pushed down a little bit um in some places, but the fact that we've been pushing so hard for those teacher salaries to increase um because we need them in our classrooms. Um, when I I know that when we saw the new uh with HB2, we saw the new compensation rates and we saw that it was, you know, this amount for teachers plus $55 a student, a lot of people were worried that we wouldn't have enough to give the the frontline workers what they deserve, the increases that they deserve. So, um, as a board member, you can advocate for, um, you know, and we can, we'll get into that later, but, we can advocate for higher salaries

084across the board in future legislative sessions. So, I hope you'll join me. >> Again, as we move forward, just make sure you pin your uh, suggestions, Dr. Brandon, as you review. Uh, we'll again uh, work on this as we move forward, look at the options. Uh and then we're probably going to move forward uh next week uh maybe with some uh some more options and some uh finalization of what we've got moving forward. >> Thank you, Dr. Brandon. It was a long haul for you to we appreciate it. Next, we've got a report uh from Dr. Moran on SP 401, the non-enrolled student participation in UIL activities. >> All right. So, next week the board will consider uh its position on this and I just want to make sure you have the background. Uh so,

085we'll run through just a few slides, but what you should know, and you probably already know this, there's been information shared with the board for your review, but let's take a quick look at the history um Senate Bill 401 and some next steps. And so, we'll first look at the history. We know that prior uh in 2425 uh school districts could opt into allowing homeschool participation, homeschool students could participate in the activities u be eligible to attend based on the students residential address if the school had opted in to allow this year. um that has changed but historically on the next slide uh the position of the board has been uh not to allow non-enrolled participation in UI UIL activities. The logic has been right right or wrong is that the current students could lose

086their position or membership on teams as a result of non-enrolled students taking their place. So that's been the history and across the state districts had the opportunity to opt in. Um now as you've heard from several people uh citizens myself in the past uh through uh Friday facts it's the board's duty now to consider where you stand on this uh because if you take no action before September 1st then non-enrolled students will be allowed to participate in extracurricular activities. You've also heard that there's funding attached. I think the state's trying to incentivize that $1,500 per activity per student. So, um, that's out there. And for districts that choose, uh, to to take action, the action would be not to allow the participation. If districts choose not to act, then by default, those students are eligible.

087Also, part of this involves neighboring districts. And so, let's roll to the next slide. So, if you uh this is what the current law says uh Senate Bill 401 that you should act uh opt out if you do not want uh non-enrolled students to participate. But homeschool students may participate in UIL activities at the school closest to the students residential address that does allow homeschool participation. if the school to which their zone opts out. So I think everybody understands that uh if one let's say that a neighboring district chose to not take action and allow and this district chose to uh to stay with their current position then students could go to the neighboring district and participate and vice versa. So it just depends on the the position of the district. So, your next steps,

088if the St. Angel Board of Trustees would like to continue the current practice of not allowing, then you'll need to adopt a policy declining enrollment. And if you choose as a board to allow that, you take no action and by default then students would be allowed to participate. So, really, that's it. It's pretty simple. It's not complicated. And um you know, we've you've heard from uh people in the community uh one way or the other. And um it's just a a decision that this board is going to have to make. And so that's your information. We'll bring it to you next week. You don't have to act next week, but u by September 1st, if you choose to act, if you choose not to act, >> then uh by doing nothing, that's the decision >>

089to allow that to occur. >> I think it also Dr. Mar, I think that either way, I think like if if we decided to go ahead and let uh homeschool students to participate, I think um it also allows to go a year and then back and revisit it and you can opt out of it or opt in out of it or do the option of what we're if we were to do if we were to take homeschool kids this year, you know, go ahead and we're going to go ahead and do it just hypothetically. But then if we go through the year and decide, you know what, it's not working out. I think it gives you a year. Next year you can go in and change that polic, you know. >> Well, and and my

090recommendation would be to be cautious about uh moving back and forth. Yeah. >> It's a big problem. if uh because we we have great respect for the homeschool community here, the private school community, and those that are not enrolled in our district. There uh many of of those individuals and parents are raising fine children who are contributors to our community. So, we want to be careful not to jerk them around. And so, I would suggest that whatever decision the board makes, you stick with u u and if you choose to go one direction that we don't >> stay that direction. >> Yeah. because uh it's >> not fair to the students. >> It's not fair to the kids, you know, and and we need to keep that in mind. So that's uh that's it. I'm

091I'm welcome to answer questions. I know uh uh you know, you've got fine arts, academics, and athletics involved. It's not just athletics, but uh and there's districts in the state that opted in a few years ago, and they've been doing it. Uh uh the reality is most districts don't. I think the number is like uh 46 or something like that. >> 48 u I would have to do go back and double check and see if that's changed. Certainly that is going to change in the next month or two >> as districts uh really give this a closer look. Um, so, so there's there's the uh topic you've heard and you'll continue to hear uh about this going forward, but please send questions my direction. We can gather information for you. >> Just a quick question.

092So, the $1,500 is per I guess ver per UIL event. So, if you had a student that was involved in three events, then you would have the $4,500. >> And that includes like band and like math competition, >> any UIL activity, >> not necessarily clubs. It wouldn't involve clubs and organizations that are not connected to the UIL, but every year year we fill out a uh a commitment form for UIL activities and we have to select them. So, it's a limited list. It's not extensive, but all the major sports and uh fine arts and academics you can think of that you hear about through UIL would be included. >> Okay, as we move forward, we've got a legislative update from Dr. Miranda. >> All right, this will be quick. Uh really the legislative update is

093to let you know that there is a special session coming next Monday and uh I believe there's 18 items that the governor has identified. I don't know that um I'm that concerned with any of them except for one and that is one that he's added recently and that is uh the removal of the star test >> and um and how they'll how they'll work that. You know, there was some it nearly made it to the finish line in the 89th session, regular session, but there was a difference in opinion between a norm reference test and a criterion reference test between the Senate and the House, and that's what killed it. So, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Whatever happens, if they do eliminate, then what they're looking at is a three-year interim

094type testing. Um, and uh, so you know, A throughF isn't going away. >> Uh, and there still will be accountability testing. So, just uh, don't get too excited one way or the other. >> This won't be called STAR. >> That's right. >> But I wanted you to know that that is back on the governor's uh, agenda. >> With that, we have a final update, facility update from uh, Dr. Moran and potentially Mr. Kennedy. I'm not sure who's doing >> Mr. Kennedy's gonna do that. >> Welcome Tony. >> Good. Good. Well, uh, we did better than we could possibly hope after the flooding. Uh, we did not have any major damage. I was very impressed. We had uh several individuals from the custodial department and the maintenance department that showed up while it was still flooding.

095Uh we had every school north and east had some type of flooding, but those dedicated staff members went out and they cleaned carpets. They extracted them. They put fans on them. They sucked water out with wet and dry vacs. They cleaned. They They did such a great job. I I was so impressed. I was uh on the way in from Seattle and I was just constant contact with Dr. Brandon, Dr. Moran, and Farah called me. I mean, we we had a lot of stuff going on. And when I got back, I started immediately going to schools. And I was so impressed. they were actually in great shape. Uh we had one school that received moderate damage and that was uh we had such excessive water at Reagan and it was the newest building at Reagan

096came in through and it and it got behind the gutter between the the uh the wall and the stucco. And if you drive by there, you'll see it. There's there's holes and it's cracked and it's it's uh displaced. But uh we've gone out for quotes already. Those quotes are due Thursday. We've already got one and it's it's about $20,000 cheaper than I thought it was going to be to We're going to tear out the stucco, tear out the uh the OSB, the uh the vapor barrier. We're going to take all the the uh insulation out, make sure that we uh make sure there's no mold or anything in there. Go back with that and then change out the guttering to make it a bigger gutter and and put some uh uh flashing to make sure

097that can't happen again. But it's amazing what our people did. Uh we we've got ceiling tiles that got wet. I mean, the water could not that amount of of water cannot be taken out of scuppers and ceiling drains. So, we had some that that got in areas where it normally wouldn't, >> but it's very minimal. We're changing ceiling tiles. We've we've gotten a lot of those. I've got a crew of three right now, and that's what they're doing. and they're going around all all over the schools and they're they're about a third of the way, but those will be looking good by the time school starts. >> In comparison, the school buildings held up well in comparison to a lot of the neighborhoods in the in the city. So, we were we were fortunate. >>

098Yes. >> Were they um Bradford? I'm guessing >> uh Bradford got very little >> very little. Okay. >> Uh it it had some golad. It got in the library and some of the classrooms. Uh, Fort Koncho probably sustained the most as far as uh, ceiling tiles and stuff. Uh, and it was due to just so much water that it it got in some seams and stuff. Uh, but we discovered that we're going to put a sump pump uh, up on top of that roof to alleviate some of that. Uh but uh everything you know uh Reagan caught some but uh Hollowman it got a little bit but there's nothing that that we've virtually got it fixed all all of them. So except the stucco wall and some of the ceiling tiles. So >> your grounds

099crew is going to be busy. >> Oh >> that stuff that stuff is growing fast. I mean, >> uh, they are working overtime, uh, as we speak, and they are going to be working overtime for a few days getting getting things ready. So, >> I saw the ones on, I think, in the Sano area when I was going down pulling them. They were they were just flying away. >> Yeah. Yes. As Joe says, I would rather mow green than mow brown. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. >> Well, and a shout out to that crew because in the middle of the flooding and all the things, we're about to welcome all of our staff back. And this week we have our biggest professional learning sessions that we offer throughout the district with over 500 sessions on

100Tuesday and Thursday here in house. And Joe and his crew um have helped us pull that off because it is growing. Um but we are using it's good for the public to know while Austin is not open for students, we do use buildings D and C for professional learning. We are also using the gym and the music room and the cafeteria and um the grounds were very high prior to Joe and his crew working magic this week. So, thank you for all the things. >> Yes, I'll pass that along. Great crew. >> Additional questions? >> Yes. If it wasn't for that um crack stole wall at Reagan, would water have gotten in? >> No. >> Okay. No, actually it it it came in between the wall and it it we had a little bit of

101uh also there we had that but uh the cubbies where they put all their backpacks and stuff, you know, the bottom of those they've swelled. We're going to have to rebuild those. But they're not structurally unsound. But no, I don't think we'd have had any any water water damage at all there if we hadn't had that. That was the only part of Reagan that got any damage. Yeah, my uh my students attend that school, so I I'm there every day. And of course, I'm located right down the street. >> But um I saw that wall deteriorating every single day for the entire year. And I was a little nervous, you know, as the year progressed because it was getting worse and worse and worse, and it there was no attention to it. >> Yeah, we

102had a we had work orders already set in place to do some flashing work to to repair that little bit, but this amount of water just sped it up. We we we actually would have would have repaired the majority of that. Uh we already had the material ordered. So >> yeah, >> we we saw that coming. >> But okay, >> it wouldn't have gotten in there if on a normal rain. It's just when you get that amount of rain, it just it just went over this. Well, instead of going in the gutters and out, it went back towards the building. So that's what >> Okay. So the plan is to fix that that whole >> fix the whole side there. Mhm. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Okay. Additional questions. >> All right. Thank you, Mr.

103Kennedy. We appreciate that. >> Thank you. >> As we move forward, as far as finance reports are concerned, the uh the June bills and accounts, the investment reports, the tax collection report are all going to be moved to the August meeting because they weren't quite ready this this uh this time. So, we're going to move all that to uh the August meeting uh pre-aggenda meeting to review. Uh there is one report the uh report on routine purchase orders over $20,000 for June. Those include uh fiber bus Wi-Fi, HVAC controls at Tucker at Central. Uh some Kate programs for automotive training and a plasma table. Uh the election costs are included in there. There's some AP examination costs and some Zoom phones. Those are all POS issued over $20,000 in uh in June. And those are

104all budgeted, right? >> Yes. Uh nothing out of nothing out of the ordinary on that. >> And I'd like to make a comment about the uh the purchasing reports typically are finalized at the end of the week prior to the Monday board meeting, but because of the new posting requirement of rather than 72 hours, it's three business days. Yeah. >> That as our attorney has said doesn't include the day of the meeting. it is requiring us to post the meeting much sooner. So, the finance departments, you know, they're they're trying to figure out how they're going to pull that off at the end of the month. They have a little bit of time, but with the Fourth of July being a dead week, >> it created a little bit of a problem for everybody. So,

105we'll we'll see if we can get that fixed and and get it to you. >> Obviously, it was a perfect storm this this this this month for that, but as we move forward, uh again, to move that to August is not a huge deal. We'll uh we'll just keep keep moving forward if if we can hit that bogey. Sometimes the the meeting is so early in the month there's just not enough time. >> We'll do our best >> turn over those reports. But as we move forward, we'll we'll we'll be good. But anyway, >> with that concludes the finance reports for this month, Miss Flint. >> Thank you, Mr. Dendle. Um Jason Henry has a a bid for Crockett Elementary for us. >> Thank you all for having me here tonight. Tonight I bring forward

106bid 25-00009 Crockett Elementary Cafe and Classroom Edition. As the district enrollment continues to decline and plans are made to consolidate additional campuses, Crockett was identified as a candidate for future growth. It was determined to house the students. An addition of classrooms and a new cafeteria would be needed. The acce acceptance of the base bid and alternate one and two will add approximately 21,000 square feet and include eight classrooms, a new new restrooms, a new cafeteria with a stage and kitchen, 77 additional parking places, and other site work. With the assistance of Park Hill Architects, an RFP was prepared for companies qualified to do this type of construction. Bids were received and two companies qualified to perform the work needed uh replied. References were checked and subcontractors lists were reviewed. The scoring criteria was applied and

107Lee Lewis Construction not only received the highest score but also had the lowest price of 10 million 328,500 for the base bid and alternate one and two. The administration recommends the award of construction of Crockett Elementary Edition and the two alternates to Lee Lewis for the construction for the total cost of 10,328,500. Do you all have any questions over this? I can't get my computer. Sorry, I don't know what's going on right now. It always happens when I have questions like this, but um um I think the concrete work there was a big difference on that. Can you did they tell >> there was I have reached out to Lee Lewis and there is a discrepancy in that price for that concrete. >> They had $30 for >> Yeah, it was $30 for square yard

108and I was like my goodness. >> Yes. And we wanted to make sure we clarified that before we accepted anything firmly. Okay. And then that's all I had on questions for, but I was going to ask something of the board. Is that okay? >> Um, since this is a large amount and I think this will be our first project that we will be voting on. I would like to table it till next Monday if that's okay with the board for one. I think we'll all be here and I think it'd be better that it's broadcasted that we are taken care of because we're just doing this in an agenda meeting. I don't like doing stuff like that big in an agenda meeting. So I guess would I have to make a motion to table? >>

109Yeah, go ahead. >> I'll make a motion to table Monday the 21st. >> And Mr. Gagos, I agree with you. Uh since we don't have a full board present here and since we're still actually waiting on dirt work uh permits, I don't think we it would be urgent that we actually move until next week when we have a full board presence. So >> I know he came over here >> I would uh >> so so I would second that, Miss Flint. >> Good deal. >> So can I if I can get a vote to if I can get a motion No, I'm sorry. We already have the motion in the second. If I can get a vote to table the um agenda item till next week. Uh all in favor say I. >> I. >>

110Any opposed? Thank you. >> All right. So, okay. So, I guess uh now we review the proposed agenda for next week's board meeting. I guess Dr. Brandon, do you have information about the bonds update that you'll be presenting? >> Okay. All right. And then same with the bond oversight, Dr. Marin. >> Right. We're going to provide the board with uh the the framework for the bo the bond oversight committee that will launch and um just to wet your appetite. The facility advisory committee will be the the the foundational group. There may be u because we've lost a few of those folks. We may have to add one or two, but uh that'll be the group that we will invite back and we'll provide them quarterly updates, but we'll give you the written framework. It'll be

111polished. You'll have all that and you can kind of see what we're going to be doing. >> Thank you. And uh Dr. Gomez, did you have an academic update for us? It too will be um next meeting from end of year data. >> Thank you. >> And then >> that should be exciting, Miss Gomez. >> Well, it's exciting for some of us in the teaching and learning world. So that's why we're all here for those students sitting in our classroom. >> Absolutely. I think it's going to be exciting news. So look, >> it's more exciting than maybe my partners report over here, but >> I I got a good nap, so I'm not going to say anything on that. that just kidding. It's all equally important, but those students are most important. >> Absolutely. Thank

112you, Dr. Gomez. Um, and then, uh, Mr. Henry, did you have information for the bids? The next bid I have is bid 25-06, Austin and St. Jeno demolition for after the district received its assessment of campuses. It was decided that the merger of Austin to McGill would benefit not only the students and staff but the district as a whole. While setting up classrooms in July of 2024, considerable damage was discovered to a critical loadbearing wall in building A of Saneso Elementary. For safety concerns, all staff in kindergarten through fifth grader grade students were moved to from Saneno to Reagan Elementary campus for the entirety of the 2425 school year. Due to the sustained damage at Saneno and the merger away from Austin, the district has been left with two empty buildings that are unusable. With

113the assistance of Kings Consulting, specifications were drawn and drawings were produced to abate and demo building A at Austin Elementary and to demo building A at Saneno. Bids were opened and three contractors submitted quality bids for this work. Bids were reviewed and scored and Reese Albert Trucking of St. Angelo and Building Abatement Demolition Company, Inc. received the highest scores. The administration recommends approval for Reese Albert Trucking to demo the two buildings and Building Abatement Demolition Company, Inc. for the abatement at Austin Elementary. Total cost for all demo and abatement is $415 $453,800 which includes $60,000 in contingencies. Do you all have any questions over this one? How long would it take? >> It depends on the abatement at Austin. We'll have to abate Austin first and then they can tear it down. But the the

114demo company will be able to start right away on uh San Just and they're thinking it shouldn't take more than 30 to 45 days. >> I guess when they bring something down as old as those buildings, there's a lot of stuff that's in I guess What's the word? How will they handle all that? >> Yeah, all of the uh all of the stuff like the asbestous at uh Austin will have it'll be highly monitored. We have a third party consultant that will be taking air samples and all of the stuff that the government requires to to remove asbestous. that has to be bagged up, wrapped up, go to a special facility. So, yeah, we'll be following all those procedures. >> Uh when would this demo begin? Like for instance, at Saninto particularly, >> we have

115the uh demo planned the schedule is for them to start no later than August 11th. So, >> so during the school year. >> Yes. >> How would that work with students nearby with a head start? I didn't know about that till this weekend. um that Head Start was going to be occupying the outerlying buildings. So, how what what steps is SISD doing to ensure that those kids, the teachers, everybody right nearby are going to be safe >> during the demolition? >> We'll have construction fencing up and uh we'll keep everybody back out of that area. The company that's doing it, they actually were the ones who uh assisted in tearing down the old men's highrise at ASU. They're very experienced with this type of work. Uh we've also demoed other buildings. I know at McGill

116we buil demoed a the middle building right in the middle of the campus during uh the school day as well with no issues. >> Okay. So, how how did that work then with students? Were they not allowed to say travel to the cafeteria or go outside and play during that time? Cuz I know there's going to be debris everywhere. I demoed a three-bedroom house and that was intense. Like a war zone. So I can imagine a two-story building like Saninto, >> right? As soon as they start tearing it down, it'll go straight into trucks and then off the campus. So there won't be a whole lot of pile up or uh any area for the kids to get to because we will have six foot fence around the perimeter. Keep everybody out. >> No, I'm

117thinking about like the dust and debris flying everywhere. Will this be done like during the day? Is it going to be >> Some of it will take place during the day. Yes. >> Okay. I'm a little concerned, especially with the kids being absolutely their feet away. >> We we make sure we take every precaution and both of these companies, they're insured and have done this type of work. So, we we feel pretty confident about it. I know uh Reese Albert Trucking got an excellent uh reference from ASU and they continue to do work over there for them as well. >> Well, and also Mr. Henry, luckily we you reused furniture in that building. Um so it's mainly empty that main building. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> And this is not something that could be done

118before school starts. Is that too soon? And or postponed till later when the kids aren't there? maybe like during holiday break. >> I mean, I it could uh I don't know if they could get it all done in a two week window. Yeah. During the Christmas holiday. >> Uh >> at this point though, the further we put it out, there's pro, you know, they may book somebody else in there or we could see a price increase because of the expenses. You said this group also did some stuff. >> No, they they uh assisted in the tearing down of the men's high-rise over at ASU. >> Yeah, we did tear down uh a building there at McGill during the school year last year while classes were going on. >> And we've done some work at Aloma,

119too. Yes, Aloma doesn't have any students on it, but we did tear down three buildings while uh staff were there. Yeah, we had staff there. >> And was there any complaints or anything about that or was everything super smooth? >> It ran it ran real good. We didn't have any. Even at McGill where we had students on campus, never had a parent complaint that I know of. >> Uh same thing over at Altalome. It went really well. Are there any other board questions? >> Emmy, you want to leave it as a regular item? >> We probably should do it as regular item. Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> All right. And then um athletic equipment. The next one I have is uh 25-00007 athletic equipment. Each year the the district solicits bids for

120athletic equipment and supplies to be used across all departments and campuses. A total of 23 vendors submitted responses to bid 25-007. This process allows for dis for the district to secure competitive pricing through catalog discounts and pre-qualified vendors, streamlining the purchasing process for the purchase of athletic equipment. The effective period for this bid will be from August 1, 2025 through July 31st of 2026. A competitive bid tabulation listing all responded v vendors and their offered discounts is attached. Coaches and staff will be required to obtain a minimum of three quotes from an approved vendor for any single purchase totaling over $10,000. The administration recommends approval of all 23 vendors listed on the bid tabulation. This will establish them as approved vendors for athletic equipment and supplies for the 2526 contract year. >> Miss Chenry, pretty

121standard bid. Looks like we've done business with most of these folks before. So, >> correct. You are right. Yeah, >> I did see like eight new vendors. Was there like a concerted effort to get new vendors? >> Yes, there was a concerted effort. Uh, all of this one is sent to the athletic department as soon as we send it out. And then the athletic department turns around and sends that to all of the coaches. The coaches are the ones who know which vendors they're reaching out to. Uh, it's kind of a team effort on most of these bids like this. So, yes, there is a concerted effort. >> Yeah, I'd recommend consent. >> Consent. >> We do this every year, right? >> Yeah. >> Correct. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Henry. Okay, Dr. Brandon,

122the U consider Council of Government's lease agreement. >> Uh items three through six will all be next Monday night. >> Okay. >> Um Okay. Can I Dr. Brandon, can you get us a copy of that lease agreement or an overview? >> Yes, I'll email that >> during the week or whatever. Yeah, we'll email that out so that you can um we had it just about right and then there was some question between day and Saninto. We're going to assume some of the responsibilities as Saninto since we'll be enrolling the students. So, we went back and separated the two campuses so that it would make more sense in the agreement. So, uh just got a copy of that back over the weekend. So, we'll have that to you so you can look over it and ask

123any questions before Friday. I'll get you some answers. >> So, Dr. Brandon, you said items three through six for next week. Is that what you just said? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Mr. Colinbach, we have a consider student code of conduct. >> I'll speak since I'm up here and Mr. Colinbach, Miss Bera, myself and Dr. Self have been working on this. It will be next week. A big portion for that is uh Mr. Colinbach, Miss Bisera, myself are participating in a TASBY webinar. uh along with this and the handbook and those were not offered until this week. So the legislative session brought a lot to work through and we are working as rapidly as we can to have information out to parents in advance of school starting. >> So next week sorry

124Mr. Convoc, I didn't mean to scare you. >> I'll speak to the next one. Um this is an annual item that we participate in. Um and so as we're working through the interim in HR just because the teaching and learning overlay there too, um I'm doing that for for that department. Um the optional flexible school day program for pays, we do that annually as well. Uh so we will do that next week. Um I want to take just a minute on the TASBY board policy update 125. I know Miss RmIrez got every board member a copy of that update um last Monday when the district returned from the shutdown. Uh we wanted to give everyone opportunity to read through that. Um I know that Mr. Ramirez and myself had discussion when we received it because

125we were expecting much more. Um don't think that's all that's coming. We will receive a very lengthy update in midocctober uh update 126 and that's because of the amount that came through this last legislative session. They have to have enough time to work through that. So it's a couple years back in our policy um the wording with TASBY was updated because this is not the first time this has happened. Um and so we do have a few that we will have to make decisions on. One of those is Senate Bill 13. I've previously sent you that in Friday facts. One has to do with Senate Bill 401, which we've discussed this evening. And then House Bill 1481, which is personal communication for student devices, which also ties into what we're bringing you guys next week.

126So those three, we cannot wait until the update 126. We will be getting information. We'll be bringing that to all of you. However, I just want to read kind of our uh general statement that we have to stay um compliant when we go through this transition. We have a statement for our local policy that newly enacted law is applicable when effective. Um no policy or regulation or any portion thereof shall be operative if it is found to be in conflict with applicable law. So, as we're in this kind of transition period of taking all this information and then getting our policy updated, that's how we stay compliant. And you um some of you who like the hard copies, it would be a very big expandable folder for October. Sorry, that's why we give you the

127jump drive. >> We will need those jump drives back. So we can continue to recycle. So if you will return those to Miss Ramirez, that's very helpful. >> She would love that. We have been searching through the building the last few updates. Seriously, >> I got something on my desk. >> Oh my gosh. >> See, Bill does. >> So Gerard will bring his handful of jump drives to you. Mr. M. >> He's collecting jump drives. All right. Um and Dr. ran. Um we already talked about Senate 401, so that'll be regular. >> Yeah, that needs to be a regular agenda item that deserves uh conversation. >> Absolutely. And then um board meeting dates and activities also. Dr. Moran, >> I would recommend that be a consent agenda item just because it's it's routine. If if

128you guys uh if you all see anything that is a conflict for you and you'd like to let Mr. Ramirez know, we can certainly consider that. that that board calendar really can be amended by the board at any time. We can move our meetings if we see fit. So, >> I just saw there were several Thursdays. Was there a particular reason >> that we're trying to do Thursdays? Some >> I I know that our uh our board president has a seventh grader coming up this year and that we'll be playing football on Thursday. So, >> on Thursday. >> Yeah, that's when his games are. >> All I know is there was special requests to look at different dates. >> Wednesday. Yeah. Excuse me. On on Monday. So they moved him on Thursday. Yeah. My bad.

129>> Yeah, I see. >> There you go. No worries. >> I'll be I'll be here on Thursdays, too. >> Outside. >> Um for announcements, we have our finance pre-aggenda workshop August 11th at 5:45 and then our regular board meeting at August 18th, 5:45 for next month. Um and we do need to go into close session hopefully briefly. Um for hold on I have the numbers um consultation with attorney and 551074 personnel matters. So we'll back we'll be back shortly. >> All right. We're back from close session. We >> Oh, I'll wait for you to sit. I'm sorry. Oh, >> we uh took no actions, made no votes, and um thank you all for your reports tonight. I really appreciate all your hard work. Um and is there anything else before we adjourn? All right, meeting.