Winneconne School Board Meeting - May 19th, 2025

001[Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. N. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Hey, Heat. [Music] I will call this meeting to order. This is a meeting of the Winn County Community School District Board of Education. It is May 19th, 2025 at 6:30 p.m. and we are in the uh high school large group lecture. Meeting notices were sent to members of the press, members of the school board, and were posted on the front doors and/or in the vestibules of district school buildings. This is a meeting of the board in public for the purpose of conducting the school district's business and is not to be considered a public hearing. There may be a time for public comment as indicated in the agenda. The meeting will also be available to watch live at www.youtube.com/wini. Please stand

002and join me in the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Roll call, please. Stellner here. Veric here. Cowarts here. Ecman here. Kundi here. Hansen here. Um recognizing the administrative team, we have Dr. Larson, Dr. Hughes, Mr. Maner, Mr. Schrader, Mrs. Horvath, Mrs. Mashad, Dr. Mashad, Mr. Dner, Mr. Jerbeck, Mrs. Dodd, and Mr. Katie. And visitors, there is a signup sheet in the back of the room if everyone has signed up. Um, if you have not, please do so. And at this time, we will be moving into the open forum. Uh, because of the length of the meeting, please um adhere to the three minutes um uh which is in

003our policy. Uh, first off is Carrie Flag. Uh, Carrie Flag, Larson, Wisconsin, Winnie County District. Thanks for the open forum that is still open. It is very disappointing that the middle schoolers choir concert was rescheduled to this evening. This is inconsiderate to the families and candidates knowing that this was the particular board meeting that there was a decision for a vacant seat and various positions within the board. That being said, I will always choose my children first and invest my time with them first. I am here because they mean the world to me and this is the the school is their world at least for a little while. I am very blessed to have an understanding family. My husband and my father are at the concert supporting them tonight so that I can have a

004voice for them and our family here. Secondly, I would like to address the policy rewritten public policy comment. This now has been back and forth several times from the board and editing and back again. I attend meetings and I hear input. At the last board meeting, I witnessed board members being sworn in to uphold our great constitution. In this propo in this proposed policy, there are limitations and violations of this great document. The board members are intelligent people and I know that our board could do a better job of listening to the community. By limiting conversation, comments, and inquiries, the board choosing not to bridge the gap and causes a larger divide between the community members, parents, and the district. The board should always be open to hear members of the community. Without them, they

005would be not be sitting on this board. Some topics may not be comfortable to address, but these are our topics are important to our community members and parents. By passing this policy as it is rewritten once again, the board is telling the community members and parents that they don't have the time to listen to them. The board will give them talk topics that can be spoken about and that is all you can speak about. This is not providing the community with the representation in which the board was elected to do. The community needs a board to be a voice for them, not to strip away First Amendment rights and violate the US Constitution. The community members and parents must be heard and you as the board must listen. Melissa Tredder. Hi uh Melissa Tredder, town

006of Ashkosh but County School District. Um I was planning on talking I'll still bring it up because it's very important of the wonderful art show that was um on April 28th that the special ed students did for the middle school and the high school. It was really amazing. They need to be recognized for all the hard work they did throughout the the whole school year. Now, with the tears flowing down my face, I tried to stay composed. My last two speeches, I was. But these incidents of harassment of my son need to stop. It needs to stop. I am done. My son's done. He couldn't go to school today. I took an unpaid day off to be with him. When I dropped off my son, Jacob, at school, my son loves sticking his head out

007the window and feeling the breeze in his face. When we got close to school, he said, "Mom, roll up the windows. I don't want to hear the bullies." There were a couple boys who were teasing him last week. I shouldn't say teasing, harassing him due to his disability. Um, using the word [ __ ] Um, and with my son having echalleia, he repeats the words. And this is what gets the students going. He will repeat it. And that what's what makes them laugh. That's what what what gets them all revved up. They think it's hilarious. Teasing my son. I don't know what else to say to these kids that are doing this besides the fact that you're hurting my son. You're hurting our family. His teachers have been wonderful. Absolutely wonderful. And I do want to say

008that there were six angels. six angels who went to the office and reported this despicable behavior from these boys. Unfortunately, I'm not able to know their names, but I am writing them letters. Me and my husband are because they were his hero that day. Now, is he going to have them next time? Probably not. So, as of now, Jordan's not going to be returning to Winnani until we get this sorted out. And so, my son feels safe. Thank you, Cheryl. Riff. Cheryl. First of all, Cheryl Roof, uh, Winnie County School District. First of all, I'm glad to see so many people here attend and get involved with the Winnie County School Board meetings and would like to continue the open forum. Education is our most common goal and most important for the Winnie County schools.

009The other comment I wanted to make was on the athletic code of conduct that's been an issue for over 25 years. um you'll never make anybody happy with that. All pe all parents happy with that. And the other comment I wanted to make is is as far as further education after graduation. I have three children and two of them have technical degrees and are very successful in the fe field of degree and I have one that went to school for seven years and is doctor of PT. So, it all depends on what the kids want to do and where their interests are and what they're interested in as to what kind of school they should go to. And I also wanted to make a comment that um we have a Lawrence University graduate that works

010as a technical person for us. So, it's not always what you think it's going to be either. And in the long run, I want to have somebody that's going to fix my car. And I want to have somebody that's going to do my plumbing. And I want somebody that's going to do my electricity. Heidi Hanky. We start all of our meetings by making a pledge of allegiance. And we promise to uphold liberty and justice for all. You guys trying to limit the ability of the constituents and the parents to come and speak about whatever is important to them is not providing them with any kind of liberty or justice. It is silencing your constituents. It is silencing your parents. In the words of Greta, "Shame on you. It's unacceptable. Having us have to email you

011seven days ahead of time with what we want to talk about or what ideas we want to share or what opinions we have is also unacceptable. Most of us are working. We have two parents working. We have children who are involved in things. Asking them to somehow submit something seven days ahead of time and then what? One or two people get to say, "Oh, yeah, you can talk about that." or no, you don't get to talk about that. That's not okay. Um, we have a mom who just came up here and was brought to tears. And this is the other thing that I wanted to mention. You know, the amount of harassment. She used the right word. And I do hope that you go wherever you're sitting. I hope you take it further and you

012press charges against these kids who continue to harass another student. As adults, if these things were happening in our workplace where you're being called names or people are nudging you or giving you a shove, that is workplace harassment. But we want to water that term down for young children to just call it bullying. We just had a sitting board member, a family who has donated thousands upon thousands upon thousands of dollars to our school, whose grandparents have donated thousands upon thousands upon thousands of dollars to our school. her child was getting harassed to the point where nothing was getting done and the only solution that this person had was to take both of her kids out of this school district and was a sitting board member. We have a serious problem here with our harassment

013policy. Maybe we need to call it for what it is. And if you have a child who's being harassed, I really think you should seek law enforcement. maybe you need to have restraining orders put on these children. Um, and as far as Earl leaving, again, his conflict of interest, I completely understand. He doesn't even want to send his own children to this school. So, how can you sit on a school board and represent a school that you don't even want your own children at? You guys are not listening to the constituents. You're not listening to your voters. You're not listening to your parents. We come up and we want to share our concerns and our grievances and the issues we feel our kids are facing and then we're labeled problem people. Oh, sorry. That's your

014time. Thank you. Hear the thing. Uh, Laura Aman. Good evening. Laura Aman, Lararssson, Wisconsin, and Moms for Liberty. I also want to talk about the policy that's restricting us to come up and talk about whatever we feel is important for that week versus trying to get something on the agenda. you need to listen to the parents and and as you do these things that that work against the parents, you see bigger turnouts coming. Typically, there's only two or three people sitting here wanting to bring up something and I think you as board members need to listen to it. But I did um pull the the si similar policies to the other um Winnebago school districts and none of them restrict or require them to put it on the on um as a an a board

015agenda item. Nenina does not um it does not limit it to agenda and you must take 30 days to get something on the agenda. Ashkosh, you can talk bring forward anything. It doesn't need to be on the agenda. Amro topics are leg within the legitimate jurisdiction of the board. They do not restrict it. Same thing with manasha. Topics with the legitimate uh jurisdiction of the board. Um and it takes 10 days to get something onto the agenda. Why do we want to limit? I mean, if you cannot sit and listen to a parent or a citizen or a taxpayer for three minutes to understand what's really frustrating them, then I really think you guys need to step back and say maybe being on this board isn't the right thing for you. Thank you, John Luxander.

016Hello, I'm John Lexander. You may remember me from uh previous episodes like unmask our children and reopen the school doors. Also, the parents for protecting children rallies at the parks. Currently working on future episodes of Let's Get Some of the Corrupt Board and the Sociopathic Administrator indicted for not following federal laws. But that one's still in production. Don't get too upset. I had a great town hall with Senator Ron Johnson last week to bring the tyranny to his attention. We will see how it goes. Once again, a famed village that celebrates yearly becoming a sovereign state is the tyrannical laughingstock of the nation. Kids struggle with remedial math, reading, and comprehension. They can't read or write cursive, but it's in the genius mentality of the board and administration to what's really important. Having a gay

017club and putting pride flags in classes along with stifling parents' voices and opinions. Clearly, they really know what's important. There are six, this is my opinion, there are six viable candidates for the vacant seat and one handpicked media plant by the administrator. This should be no surprise to anyone in the audience. As I've stated several times over the years, especially with the illegal policies and verbiage regarding Title Nine, I would hope tonight that you can try to find yourselves on the right side of history. I'm going to wish you Godspeed and good luck because at this rate you're really going to need it. I'm pretty sure I saw a crowd with pitchforks and torches in the parking lot. It seems to be getting to that point. Thank [Applause] you, Cynthia Aten. Hello. Haven't been up

018here in a while. Cynthia, village of Winnie. I came here with a couple of ideas in my head of what I wanted to address, what I wanted to mention. And I I pretty much changed and shifted everything and completely everything when saying that poor mom. So I grew up with my aunt that was my godmother that had Down syndrome. And just seeing that she went through that, her kids went through that, it just hits I'm sorry, but it just hits something there that really bothered me. Um I had talked before and I had mentioned um collaborately with some people and had some ideas. Um you know the bullying thing is hard. It's hard to report. It's hard to be a student to report it. It's hard to be a parent to report it. It's even

019harder to be a staff member to report it and I'm sure that they see things happening. I'm sure that they did. I used to get bullied when I was in school. You know when I got to high school then I started to realize that I could bully back. You know but for the longest time you was just you just accepted it. you didn't know what to do. You didn't know who to go to. And I know staff saw it. I mean, there was no doubt about it. They did, but who do they go to? You know, and most of the parents were people that were contributing. And you know, when you got something like that, you don't want to cross that line. So, I get it. They we have to kind of get more creative.

020So, I'm thinking an external review board was one of my thoughts for this comprised of parents um maybe even some students that might be considered a little bit um intellectually functioning in that capacity where they could do something like that. Um teachers uh something too that's like you know away from the incident that can actually review this. Um, further elaboration of the bullying policy, make kids accountable, make sure that the kids get this, that they sign a paper like they do with the electronics. Um, I know our kids used to have to sign the electronic waivers that said they were doing this, have them sign a bullying contract. You know, they're not going to do this. What's going to happen to them? Um, the parent involvement and accountability from both sides. Put more of the

021responsibility on the parents. Um, anonymous reporting. have an anonymous phone line, anonymous email, some kind of a note system somewhere located within the school that the kids can just drop down a quick note and say, "I'm scared. Somebody is going to hurt me." Drop it in there. Everybody checks it every now and then when you see something's in there. Something to to that monitor, to that level, and hall monitors, students who are responsible for reporting incidents, like that lady said, she called them her six angels. Maybe call it hall angels. I don't know, you know, but something that the kids will be out there and have the ability to go and actually write down a report of incidents, turn it into whoever is on their team of champion them. Um, and then staff involvement, administrators,

022everybody you can possibly have, just be seen in the halls, you know, just take a walk. Just feel like taking a walk, take a walk. Even if it was, you know, a board member because you could probably go around to the schools, right, and take a walk through the halls and just see how things are working. But some things are these kids have a little bit of a sense that I'm being watched. There we go. I'm good. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Moving into the open session, I would entertain a motion uh for the consent agenda. So moved. Second. Motion by Veric, second by Stellner to approve the consent agenda. Any discussion? Roll call, please. Stellner I. Veric. I. Cowarts. I. Ecman. Hi. Kundi. I. Hansen. I Right. Tonight we are conducting interviews to

023fill the current vacancy of the Winn County Community School uh district board of education. We did receive letters of intent from seven uh candidates and we sincerely thank them for their willingness to serve and their interest in supporting our school. To ensure fairness, we'll randomly draw names from a hat to determine the order of the candidates. Um, each interview will be timed and for a total of 15 minutes. Candidates will have 13 minutes to respond to a consistent set of seven questions which will be asked by myself, the board president. In the final two minutes, you'll have the opportunity to share anything about yourself um that you'd like the board to know, your background, your education, your interest. Um, there will be no follow-up questions by the board members. Um, during the interview portion, members

024will take notes and listen carefully to each of your responses. Um, because this is open session, candidates are legally permitted to remain in the room and observe the interviews. However, in the spirit of fairness, we are kindly asking candidates to consider stepping out while others are being interviewed. This is entirely voluntary and we respect each candidate's decision. After the interviews are completed, the board will conduct a ballot vote um in open session. A majority, four of six votes, is required to appoint the new member. Although ballots will be used, these are not confidential or secret ballots. Um names and votes may be read aloud and recorded as part of the public meeting minutes and a roll call vote may be requested. So that will be our process for tonight. Um at this point um we

025have a list of candidates. We're going to put them in a basket. We're going to draw out for the order. Okay. Um first name going in the basket is Monica Wisinski. Second is Thomas Schmoody. Cynthia E. Atten, Bill Hiddle, Nathaniel Harter, Carrie Flag, and Mark H. Bailey. So, I'll have Katie start to draw the first person to um participate in the interviews. Sorry, Monica Wasinski. I don't have my mic on, Mark Faley. Bill Hiddle, Nathaniel Harter, Carrie Fle, Thomas Schmoody, and the last one is Cynthia Eaton. Okay, first up is um Monica Wisinski. We'll have you come sit up here. Um at this point, if you are a candidate and you choose to leave, um now would be your time. Oh, okay. Thank you. Good evening. First question, what motivated you to apply for the

026schoolboard position? Question again. Sorry. Uh I feel called to serve. I have been in this district. I've lived in Winn County for 30 years. I have worked in the um community. I have worked for the school. Um, and you know, I have the gift of time right now and I feel that I am called to serve the community, serve the students, um, give back in a way that was provided for me and for my family when I was raising my kids and was way too busy to to do this service role. Um, however, I did spend um, a lot of years here um, covering for the school board um, for the Winn County News. So, um, yeah, I feel it's a calling and I would like to think that my rational, um, common sense approach

027to raising kids and living my life would serve the board well. Okay. Thank you. What do you believe is the most important responsibility of a school board member? Uh, I would like to be a great community connection, a community liaison for other families and taxpayers um, in our district. I want to be able to help set policy and, you know, enforce things that need to happen in the district. Um obviously finances are a big part right of running a school and so setting a budget and adhering to that and making good finance common sense decision decisions um I think is also crucial um and working with the superintendent being part of that process as well. What skills or experiences do you bring that would benefit the board and our school community? I would say the

028biggest skill set that I bring is an open mind. Um I don't have a particular agenda when I think of um school and education but I have a willingness to learn and to listen to people. Um, I think that, you know, how we how we how we handle ourselves with other people is a really a really key component to um education and and far beyond that. Um, however, um, I also think, you know, my willingness to serve, wanting to serve, wanting to help is another, um, asset. Have you previously served on a board or in any leadership roles in the community? You know, as I was thinking about this, I kind of um forgot that I was I think I was the president of the co-op when my kids were very young. Um so I

029served on the board there for many years and I was president and so that was um a long time ago, but I think that kind of kickstarted me here. It was kind of one of the first things I did in this community to become involved and um met a lot of great people and it also showed me that you know service is a really great thing. Um here in Winnie I volunteered at the elementary school for many years with my kids. I was um involved in the PTA. I am currently um a big sister through Big Brother's Big Sisters um in North Central Wisconsin. So, I have a middle school aed girl in the city of Ashkosh that I spend time with and do things um with. Okay. As an individual schoolboard member, how would

030you handle a situation where the board takes a position which you do not agree with? you know, so I think adversity and disagreement is really a catalyst for growth. And um I would like to think while we might disagree, there's there's there's growth and there's learning to be taken away from that. Um I'm one of seven people. You know, I'm not going to come here and assume that I can just, you know, have my opinion and everyone's going to want to hear it, want to buy into it. So I think it's just really it's a respect. It's there's a mutual consideration for um what's being said out here, what's being shared here and and talking and working through it. How would you define student success and how should we measure it? H that's a great

031question. Um student success, it looks so different for every every student, every family. Um, I think the goal, you know, is to meet kids where they're at. And that comes with what we do in our schools, you know, the teachers, the staff, the administration that we have working to create education, educational tools and programs and set ideas and goals in motion for those kids when they're in those schools. So, I don't think there's a really easy answer to that, but I'm a product of a technical college. I have an associates degree. My husband has a four years degree, four-year um degree and a master's degree. I have two kids in college. I have no idea what, you know, will become will become of them when they get their degrees if they, you know, finish that.

032So, I really um I really don't think that we can say here's what education should look like. It is certainly an individual thing. And I think that's the beauty of public public schools, right? We have a lot of tools and resources um to try to to meet these kids where they're at and set and set things um goals for each of these kids, each of these groups of kids in motion and create um you know opportunities and awareness for them. So, what's out there? Sorry, that was a very long answer. That that's okay. Is there anything else you'd like us to know? Uh, you know, I've lived here nearly 30 years, like I've said. Um, I've worked in the community. I've worked at the schools. I've built strong relationships. Um, you know, with the people

033I've worked with. I've had fantastic relationships everywhere I've been. I love working with kids. I believe in them. They are our future. Um, it takes a village to raise them. I do genuinely believe that. Um, I think those who know me would say that I am a trustworthy person. I'm compassionate. Um, I'm rational. I'm full of common sense. Um, we have a wonderful school district here. We have great students. We have great families. And I would like to give back and serve in the role and help our students be better, help these families get through this. and also, you know, um be mindful of our taxpayers. So, thank you. Okay. Thank you, Monica. Next is uh Mr. Phy Okay. All right. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Hi. Um, what mo motivated you to apply for

034the schoolboard position? I've been following trends in education for years. In fact, noted it in a speech I gave 10 years ago. I love this community. My family has a history in this community. I've overcome the longest of odds because of my education here. I was taught we had a obligation to our state, our community, and our nation. Because of that, because of what I was taught, I wrote a blank check to the United States of America to each and every one of you for the cost of up to and including my life. Now, I know you've heard me say this before, and it's nice of you. Please hear me out again. When you're when you're a retired soldier from the United States Army, sometimes you have to remember the oath that you take that

035all of you swore to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. I take that very seriously. When I was discharged, nobody relieved me of my duty. Okay. Uh, what do you believe is the most important responsibility of a school board member? Compassion. We may have differing opinions about the way things should be, but together it doesn't matter your views. We have one big goal in common. It's that letter educate our students so they can go out in the real world and be able to deal with difficult circumstances. Life is full of difficulty. Perseverance. Mark can attest. Mark can attest to this. You know, it takes a lot sometimes it takes a lot of time and a lot of effort and a lot of repeating before you become successful. I think I've had a

036pretty successful life. My dad wasn't the nicest guy to get along with. My peers were tended to be rather harsh. But you know what? I learned from that and I grew. I'm always learning. I'm not going to come in here. You know what I'm saying? I know everything. I don't if my opinion differs from yours, let's talk. I'm willing to change my mind, you know, and I'm open I'm openminded enough to be flexible. Okay. What skills or experiences do you bring that would benefit the board and our community? I've sat on the uh I've sat on the executive committee of the American Legion in Topeka, Kansas. I served as second vice commander. I served as vice president of the Washurn Student Government. I unfortunately walked away from that position because the host university was trying

037to push a sexual offender to be their representative on on the student council. I said emphatically and not without some experience, I could not support this decision. I'm not going to I'm not going to be that coward again. I'm going to stand strong for what is right and what is good. When I saw that young lady tonight in tears, I walked out and I gave her a hug. I've got tear stains on my shoulder, but I'm always willing to listen. I don't want any parent, any teacher, any student, anybody in the community to be shut down? You may have answered this in your last response, but have you uh previously served on a board or in any leadership roles in the community, which you had alluded to? I have not been able to, you know,

038serve in a capacity in Winn County, but I have extensive committee service. Unless you look at my school years, oh my goodness, what wasn't I involved in, you know, basically survival and basically some people thought I really I had it made in school. Okay. As an individual schoolboard member, how would you handle a situation where the board takes a position which which you do not agree with? I'm willing to listen to everybody. And if proven wrong, I'm always willing to change my mind. I am open-minded enough to know I'm not going to come in knowing everything. I'll never come in knowing everything about everything, but I will learn. And you will find me about as flexible as anybody you're going to meet. You see my pleasing personality. Miss Larson could attest to that. But I

039I believe, you know, there's nobody I can't work with. There are people I've worked with in the past that I, you know, I disagree with. We got along great. I have a warp sense of humor, but hey, who doesn't? If you want to survive in this world, how would you define student success and how should we measure it? Test scores are a nice start, but we need to prepare students better as far as economics. you know, how to write a check, how to balance a book, how to balance, you know, even with the spreadsheet generation, it's like if you don't know what numbers to put in where, how are you going to know common sense, home economics, all very useful for boys and girls to learn. I was I may have been a trailblazer as

040I was told once. So I was in the FHA at one time, but because of that, girls were finally allowed to take auto shop. Whether or not it's true, but maybe I did blaze away. I will continue to desire to do so. I consider to desire and I desire to after I'm over each one of you may not agree with everything I've done everything I've said but I want you to understand all I want is respect the respect I give you is respect I turn. Okay. Is there anything else you'd like us to know? Yes. Robert Kennedy made a statement before the 1968 presidential election. He says, "I see things the way they are and ask why. I see them things the way they should be and ask why not. Remember, the real world is

041a very ugly, dangerous place. You can't play pretend. I was born. I was raised. I taught my obligations. I fulfilled those obligations. I'm looking to do so again. You see my wife so love my late wife so loved this town that I buried here near her best friend my mother they were best friends the last 20 years of mom's life mom knew when we came up here she never questioned it me as far as my interaction with children you can't find a niece a nephew you a great niece or a great nephew that doesn't love and respect their uncle Marky or a crazy uncle. But you know what? I'm glad. Okay. Thank you, Bill. Bill. Yep. right here. Okay. to talk louder. It's more for the stream. Sure. Yeah. So, hi. Thanks for having me

042here. I really appreciate the opportunity. Thanks. Thanks for the interest. Yeah. So, first question. What motivated you to apply for the schoolboard position? All right. I only have 15 minutes, right? You do. Hang on, Dave. Oh, yeah. Sorry about that. really it's something I've had a a thought or aspirations for for quite some time. I was inspired probably as a teenager and I talked to a friend of mine his father was on the school board many county school board probably 25 years ago and uh he had just mentioned that as long as his kids were in the in the school system that he wanted to be you know part of that decision-making process and really saw it as like a civic duty and uh I don't know that's something that really stuck with me. So,

043we're talking this is something from 30 years ago. And uh I always thought, well, if I ever have kids and they're in the school system, it's something I have aspirations for. And uh so that kind of brings us to where we are today. Um we had our twin girls in 2017 and uh we were able to move back to the district and and now they're attending the Winnie County School District. And uh so I had this idea and um really looking for the right opportunity to um you know to possibly you know campaign or run for a spot and then when this came up then I thought well I think now is the time. So okay thank you. What do you believe is the most important responsibility of a school board member? All right. Uh

044really to be the now I got to back up to do what's best in the best interest of the kids. I mean I'll just leave it right at that. Okay. And what skills or experiences do you bring that would benefit the board and our school community? Yeah. So, I've had a chance to, I don't know, live a fairly diverse life and do some different things, uh, both personally and professionally. Um, I think that diversity is probably one of the most important things. I mean, I I truly started at the bottom. I was, as I told people, I started cleaning toilets, and that's not even a lie. I worked as a janitor in high school and, uh, have worked my my way up through the material handling uh, industry. worked a good time as a technician,

045as a mechanic. Um, about eight years ago, I had an opportunity to move into management. And, uh, it took to it maybe even better than I thought I would. And so, some of the skills I've learned as a as a manager of a company now and and some of the things we do and uh, really collaborate together as a management group and with our director group. And I think the ability to collaborate together and listen, you know, listen to that's our our employees, our customers, and to do the best thing uh for them. Um what I call affect positive change. I don't know if that's kind of a fancy way of saying it, but it seems like those skills and those things that I do on a daily basis would relate really well to a

046school board. You know, I'm really looking to to do that to um work together for the best interests of the kids. like I started out saying. Okay. Have you pre previously served on a board or in any leadership roles in the community? In the community, no. Okay. As an individual schoolboard member, how would you handle a situation where the board takes a position which you did not agree with? Yeah, this is something I've given a lot of thought to um as this opportunity came up and uh I think about things it it's the the board and I'm sorry if I'm going to elaborate a little bit. It would also be the constituents within the community and I think what if the general community consensus is in complete contrary to my own beliefs, you know, and

047uh I think about the struggle that would be and I can imagine you guys deal with that struggle there. there has to be times um and then also within the board. So what if the board believed in something that I strongly disbelieved in? I would hope as a board we could discuss that and come to a consensus. That's really the thing I uh would share my my reasoning. I'm sure I would have some logic or ethical reason or moral reason for that and uh it seems like that would be the time for the discussion amongst the board. So, okay. How would you define student success and how should we measure it? Ah, great question. Um, because I don't think it is just grade point average. Um, success means lots of different things. Uh, I think

048about my time in Winnie County and part of the reason I wanted to come back here is I call it my education experience. it uh it wasn't just uh learning math and learning English and as a matter of fact that was uh really sometimes difficult for me and and painful probably for my teachers as well you know it's a that's a fact um so although the actual you know academics is important part of it that's 100% it's an important part of it uh the experience part is is important too I think about things like sports just as an example I I learned a lot in uh being part of sports and being the member of a team like that stuff relates to day-to-day life to operate as a team. Um sometimes to be part of

049something that's bigger than yourself. Uh so again, it's the whole experience. So it is academics, right? Let's put that there. Uh what else could define success? uh helping people find their way I think is an important piece too because something we've been working with some youth programs at work too and uh it's really uh rewarding to to help see somebody that struggled in one aspect especially in the academics and if we can you know get him in and kind of discover their intelligence in a different way. So, uh, again, that's it's hard to quantify that maybe, you know, it truly is, but so success it getting people placed and getting people headed in the direction that they need to, I would think that'd be a huge success. So, okay. Is there anything else you would

050like us to know about you? Just in general? Sure. Um, for anybody that doesn't know, I'm I mean, my roots run really deep in this community. Uh, my my father graduated from here, uh, sometime in the mid70s. I don't know exactly when that was. And then, uh, I was born and raised in the community, uh, went to Winnie County, uh, K through 12. And, uh, again, I'm, uh, I'm always very proud of that. I, uh, I don't know what the exact right word is, but it's something I definitely carried with me. I I got just such a kind of rich experience from that and I hope we still are providing some of that same experience you know so but beyond that right so I you know I went through K through 12 graduated had the

051chance to again I got in this material handling industry worked as a technician a traveling technician so I got to travel around see some different things for work uh interact with tons of different people in different capacities and again and then which ultimately, you know, led me into my role. I don't want to go on to it too much, you know, but I think they're important things to kind of hear some of my background, right? I I feel like I have uh I've walked in a lot of different shoes, you know what I mean? And I think I'd be able to relate to people on a certain level because that's what I do in my own position. I wouldn't even recommend for people to to take the route to where I am because it was

052really difficult and it was really long and and kind of drawn out. So, but on a side note, when I'm interacting with just for that example with an employee, it's like, man, I I've done it. I've done it. I've been in those paper mills when it's uh, you know, 130 degrees and humid in there and you just can't get this done. and and uh so I think because of that I think I'll be able to relate to a lot of you know people from diverse backgrounds. Okay. Thank you very much. That's it. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Nathaniel Good evening. Good evening. How's it going? Good. What motivated you to apply for the schoolboard position? Honestly, I've been thinking about possibly running over the last maybe two years and I've been

053just kind of nervous about trying to get involved. Um, I've started attending approximately beginning of January and then watching for a couple months before that and now that a position has opened up, it seemed appropriate for me to try to apply. Okay. What do you believe is the most important responsibility of a school board member? The most important responsibility is going to be to support the students. Um followed by supporting the teachers as well because without the teachers, we can't help the students learn and grow to become the adults we wish them to be. Okay. And what skills or experiences do you bring that would benefit the board and our school community? Um, as for skills and experiences, uh, my leadership skills are good. I've been working at Chipotle for approximately three years at one

054of the busiest ones in Colorado. We were building, um, team members up to promote them to other Chipotles, both in management positions as well as leadership positions. As for my skills here, since I haven't done anything outside of student council in what that was 17 years ago, I believe approximately 2011. Yeah, 2011. Um, I would have to learn from you guys to start and then from there I could use that to in my leadership abilities I've gained at Chipotle to be able to help you guys govern the school. I guess it wouldn't be really be governing, it'd be more of leading them. Okay. Thank you. Um, and you may have answered this already. Have you previously served on a board or in any leadership roles in the community? Um, in the community specifically, no. On

055uh a student council, I was there for approximately three years, but again, that was old enough ago that it probably doesn't really apply anymore. Um, as for leadership, it would have been at a fast food restaurant as apprentice general manager, not a community leadership role. Okay. Thank you. As an individual school board member, how would you handle a situation when the board takes a position which you do not agree with? One of the biggest problems we have with politics here right now, not necessarily with the board, but just as a whole, is that we have this far right and far left and everybody's fighting. We need to find a way to use everybody's abilities um from both sides of the spectrum as well as people you disagree with to try to find the best solution

056for the students. Okay. And how would you define student success and how should we measure it? Measuring has always been an issue and I'm not exactly sure. The default for that is student test scores. However, from my time as a student as well as other places, test stores, test scores don't tell the entire story. So, somebody who tests very high may not have practical skills and so they struggle out in the workforce. Um, I sadly do not have a good answer to that question and I have not seen a good solution yet. Okay. And is there anything else you'd like us to know about you? Sure. Um, I have two kids in elementary school. They are Jinny and James. Um, and I am looking to try to make the school a better place for them,

057but also for the other students as well. We've had um just a lot of changes over the past few years with the school and some for the better, some not. And I want to be a part of that to try to guide it to make this school a better place for everyone. Okay. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you very much. Carrie Carefully. Why do we only have microphone on? Hi, Carrie. Hello. What motivated you to apply for this schoolboard position? Um I wanted to take a more active role in um making the school a bit more successful um and being more involved and not only for my kids but for everybody's kids and make them successful when they leave this place to contribute to society. Okay. What do you believe is the most important responsibility of

058a schoolboard member? listening and also effective communication follows closely behind that. Okay. What skills or experiences do you bring that would benefit the board in our school community? Um, I work in healthc care and I treat many kinds of different people and I encounter them and they're from all different walks of life and I am able to convey to them what they need to do to better themselves for their health and wellness. So I believe that I can effectively communicate with parents, with the kids, with staff and bridge that because that's what I do all day. Okay. Have you previously served on a board or in any leadership roles in the community? No, not in the community. Um, however, I just mentioned I serve people every day with the with my profession and doesn't matter

059where they come in. They come in with a lot of stuff when they walk in the door and I'm able to talk them through it and help them out. Okay. As an individual schoolboard member, how would you handle a situation where the board takes a position which you do not agree with? Um, I would take a step back, try to gather all the facts, um, discuss with other board members and, um, ultimately take a step back and remember that we're doing it for the children. Okay. How would you define student success and how should we measure it? Um, student success, you know, grades are one thing, but I think you need to be a a well-rounded person in order to be successful. You can't just be good at at getting A's all day. You have

060to balance that with responsibilities, um, extracurriculars, self-awareness. Um, yeah, just the ability to know that you made a mistake and be responsible for it and recognizing that is big. That's how we learn. Okay. Is there anything else you'd like us to know? Um, no. I just I prepared a closing statement. I wasn't sure if that was Sure. Fine. We That's kind of what it said. So, I just said I want to thank you guys for considering us all um and especially me for this vacant seat. I do value our children's education and want all of them to succeed. I have chosen I will contribute much to the board. My experience in healthcare has equipped me to effectively communicate and understand what all the are the qualities of the board members here. Um, I believe that

061my management position, my healthcare position, and my experience as a parent will help me advocate for comprehensive educational programs to support the children intellectually, emotionally, and physically. I look forward to the opportunity to the continued success and improvement of the educational system and the Winnan ways. Okay. Thank you so much. Hi, good evening. Hello. What motivated you to apply for the schoolboard position? Um, I think everything starts with the child and if you have certain people in certain places to a motivate the child to b show them the correct way that things will be that need to be done even if it's nobody's watching and they're doing it what they need to do. I think that's where it all starts. I had a teacher when I was in school that pulled me off to the

062side and showed me this is the way you need to do things. And it's helped me throughout my the rest of my life. And I think with that it teaches the kids and the kids will look at everybody and go, you know, this person helped me get to where I am today. Or you go the opposite way. This if it wasn't for this person showing me the wrong way, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today. Okay. What do you believe is the most important responsibility of a school board member? I think as a school board member, you're upholding the values of the school and of the community. So if you're showing that you have the values of the school and the community, the community is going to see that in you and they're going

063to start pushing towards getting more students to this school because I know it's an open enrollment. So if the community sees that the school board is showing value to the school, then you're going to get more students. Okay. What skills or experiences do you bring that would benefit the board and our school community? Um well, a I work I work in the ER. Um, as many people in this community know as I work in the ER, I'm also part of the um, first responders here in Winn County. Um, I believe in doing the right thing when nobody is watching. If you do not, if you set yourself up for greatness, you will accomplish that. If you don't set yourself up that way, you're not going to get it. And I think being on the school

064board is a gonna help me out and it's going to help the school board out because I'll bring a lot of things with my military experience and with my uh working in the ER experience to the school board to help with setting a proper goal. Okay. Have you previously served on a board or in any leadership roles in the community? No. No, I have not. Okay. Have I been on in community stuff? Yes, I have. I'm part of the American Legion. Um, I'm the master at arms for the Armoral American Legion. I've also I'm also on the honor guard for the American Legion. So, I do participate in a lot of community involvement, but I've never been actually on a board for it. Okay. As an individual schoolboard member, how would you handle a situation

065when the board takes a position which you do not agree with? I would look both I would not look at it as close-minded. I would look at both sides of the of the situation and then put my own experience into it and then evaluate everything that's going on with it. Okay. How would you define student success and how should we measure it? To be honest, I don't think student success would be that they that they reach the honor board because I'll be flat out and honest with you, I didn't I did not reach the honor board. Um, but when it comes to student success, you're looking at to make sure to see a they graduate. They graduate from school. That's that's as of right now. That's the number one goal for each individual student is

066to graduate. If you have children that drop out of school, if we're able to get a hold of them and find out why, what made you drop out? Was it the school? Was it too hard? Was it because you didn't want to be there? What made you drop out? And then see if we can change that to get them back in school so they get their degree. Because with a diploma, it's a lot easier to find a job with a high school diploma than it is without one. Okay. Is there anything else you would like us to know? Um, like I said, I've been I was in the military. Um, as a matter of fact, my American history teacher actually pushed me to join the military. Uh, he was a Marine and he found out

067that I wanted to go into the Navy Seals and he showed me a lot of exercises to get me where I wanted to be. Um, once I joined the military, I went directly into the medical field because once again, I look at every individual as an individual. I do not discriminate against anybody. Um, and I let anybody that comes into that I come in contact with, I don't talk down to them. I don't believe that just because this person is makes $150,000 a year and I only make $50,000 a year. That doesn't make a difference to me. We both put our pants on the same exact way. So, I will never talk down to anybody and I do not put up with anybody talk down talking down to me. The respect goes both ways. Okay,

068that's all we have. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, okay. Not break anything. Hey. Hi. What motivated you to apply for the schoolboard position? Well, you know, having two kids in the school system, um, I want to get involved. You know, I'm I love my kids. I love everybody's kids. I mean, um, I'm kind of the parent that you show up at school, everybody either knows me or they, you know, want to come home and want to play, want to do a play date, want to spend time. It's like I just I felt like I wanted to do something for them, you know. Um, we moved up here from Illinois over two years ago and I was contemplating doing it down there and then the move came and I was like, well, you know, we'll think

069about that later. But when it came up with the um vacancy, I was like, well, no better time than today. I'm not getting any younger. So, okay. What do you believe is the most important responsibility of a school board member? A lot. Um to say just one that's tough. Um to take on a role of a schoolboard member, you're taking on the responsibility for every single every every single child in your school district. It's not just a class or a group of kids that you might know. This is everyone. So the most important responsibility is knowing that every single one of those kids' futures depends upon a vote that you might make, a policy you might implement. Um, a change to staffing that you might put in place. Um, responsibility and knowing how important it

070is and who it affects. I think that's number one. Okay. And what skills or experiences do you bring that would benefit the board and our school community? We got lots. Okay. So, tried writing down as much as I could with everything here. Um, I have had a lot of patience and learned a lot of patience in my time. That's probably one of the biggest things that I bring to the board. Um, like I mentioned having my aunt with Down syndrome, she she taught me patience. She taught me understanding. She taught me that there's more than one side to every story. You know, here they're his, hers, and the truth kind of thing. But you you have to be able to get down to that route. I excel at communications. Um I'm very open with everybody

071that I work with. um from the executive level people that I interact with every day all the way down to the property managers and maintenance technicians that uh report to the property manager at the job that I deal with every day. So um I have great communication skills. I can relate to people. Um some of the big things that I did take a a moment to write down um I have been around the block. I'm a little bit older. I'm not uh you know fresh and and new. Um my husband and I decided to have children later in life. So I've kind of got a little bit more patience and experience um dealing with dealing with them than I might have had in my 20s or 30s if you know what I mean. Um so

072a bit about me. Um I have two children. I'm a third have a third grade and a fifth grader. Um I'm also a fourth grade catechist over at St. Mary's. So, I have a little bit of the experience with working with children in in a one-on-one um as well as a classroom setting. Um our family has for heritage in the US military. We've um I'm a active lifetime member of the women's auxiliary, the BFW. Um so, I bring some experience with community outreach with that. Um I have six degrees. I have majors that were including business organizational management, computer sciences, health sciences, political sciences, psychology, and accountancy. Um, I've worked in multiple fields from healthcare and emergency medicine down to construction and software implementation and collaborative educational initiatives that were centered around the common core

073when it was rolled out a few years ago. Um, I currently work from home. I'm an accountant and I'm a senior accounting role where I oversee financials for a property management company that um provide student housing for universities from all across the US and abroad. We have locations in Moscow. So, we have to deal with different people out there from people in the US. And it's um I know how to deal with different cultures and different um different ways of life and to take into account a lot of different scenarios and I don't just I don't walk into a room and just have a base that I say this is how it's going to be. This is what we're going to do. I listen to people. I listen to professionals. I listen to feedback. and

074I have no problem going and asking a question if I don't understand something. So bringing me on board, I'm uh I'm going to interact. I'm going to communicate and I'm going to make sure that I am making the right decision and I communicate with everybody including administrator, everybody on the board, you okay? Um, have you previously served on a board or in any leadership roles in the community? Uh, we're new to the community, so I have not been on anything yet in Winn County. Um, in our old hometown, yes, I have. Um, work-wise, I've been on many different boards. I always kind of get sent on little missions, they call it. Um, one of my roles when I was working for a Microsoft implementation um, engineer, I used to get sent out to the clients

075that were not happy because they used to make me be um, used to make me be the one to like figure things out and work through them. So, I would head up groups and teams. I'd go out to um the uh the sites and work with the individuals that were doing using the software, the users, and then the um management and their IT teams and come together and develop a plan for implementing and fixing whatever is wrong with them. So, um I've been on medium right now at my current employer. I am on a cultural committee with them. So my job is to um figure out what is um the current like the month like uh like Pride Month or um we have Hispanic Hispanic Heritage Month um different things like that and we just

076kind of work with um finding some fun activities we can do with the field people because they're not here with us. So, my I'm kind of in the middle of um organizing some things for the summer right now um for the Junth um festivities. So, we're I do a lot and I try to I try to have fun while I'm doing it too and try to make sure everybody gets little part with it. So, okay. Um as an individual school board member, how would you handle a situation where the board takes a position that you don't agree with? It's going to happen, you know. I mean, it happens to me in my personal life all the time, you know. I mean, how else would you deal with it, you know? I mean, do you scream

077and pout and, you know, run out and hissy fit? No. You challenge, you know? You take the challenge. You if you don't agree with them, you tell them why you don't agree with them. You ask them questions as to why they agree with something that you don't. Um, maybe there's something that you're missing. you know, maybe you didn't get the full story or you just don't completely understand something that they do. So, you first of all, you don't shut down, number one, you know, um number two, you ask questions, and if you don't agree, you don't agree, you know? I mean, you can't agree on everything in this world. So I I'm going to have times in my life, especially with my husband, that I don't agree with some things that he does. But, you

078know, I mean, I wake up the next morning and I still love him. So, you know, you got to agree to disagree. Okay. How would you define student success and how should we measure it? You know what? Every child is going to be different. I hear a lot about the test scores and that's great, okay? But I have two daughters, a nine and an 11year-old. They could not be any more different than each other. Success for one is completely different than success for another. I have one that to her success is making sure that everything is perfect. The other one knows that she can be perfect. She's she's she's smart. She's got it up here. Okay. But she doesn't care. She just wants to move on to the next thing and wants to find something

079interesting and wants to she wants to be a vet. So, she wants to like improve and wants to help people and the other one just wants to see perfection on paper. It can't be. It has to be different. Everybody has to be different. So, how to measure them individually? The teachers interact with them every day. the parents interact with them every day. Their team time teachers that they have, I know our little ones have that in elementary right now. Um, they all interact with them. How are they doing? Maybe they don't take a test well. Maybe they don't, you know, work good with reading a test and, you know, selecting answers. Not everybody does. My husband doesn't do good with tests. Um, but does that mean that they're bad student? It doesn't, you know. Um,

080but if we do see a need, if the teachers express that there is a need, um, I'd like for parents to be more involved. So, we have our one time a year with the parent teacher conferences. Um, and that serves very well with them. But I think that I think that parents need to um work more with the teachers. I think that maybe we need to implement actual homework for the younger school kids. Um, our old district, they had homework since first grade on. So, I was used to them bringing home the homework. And now they're kind of, you know, they my older one knows what homework is going to be when she goes on to middle school and and high school. The little one has absolutely no idea what homework actually is. And she's

081probably not going to care about it. But um success is going to come to each child in their own way. Okay. And you did share a little bit about us or about yourself with us, but is there anything else you'd like us to know? Well, you know, here's here's one thing. you know, all all of what I've said aside, um the one thing that I believe sets me apart from the other candidates is my past experience. Um I value the value that I bring from our community when it comes to safety protocols for our children. I was a former first responder for the city of Chicago. I'm aware of the challenges both big and small. As a parent, I've experienced hard lockdowns, soft lockdowns. As I said, we came from Illinois. Um, we've been the

082hard lockdowns, soft lockdowns, student threats. We've had armed carjackings and break-ins within literally within feet of our schools. Um, I've had to leave work in a panic to pick up my kids, praying and crying in the car the entire way, hoping that they were okay and they were in one piece cuz you just get message that says you have to come pick them up. They got a threat. It's hard. It never gets any easier. And that's why we decided a little over two years ago to come up here to Wind County and all these cumulative experiences. I can assure you that my contributions will be unparallel and of quality benefit to our community. My husband is a corrections officer over in Oshkosh and he's worked for Cook County in Illinois as well as a juvenile

083detention center in Joliet. And he always says it's not a matter of if but when. and it's my duty to ensure that this when doesn't come to fruition for a very very long time here. So I believe that community involvement and student and parent involvement will instill a sense of ownership and pride in our community that will grow with each generation that walks across the stage of graduation. I see the relationships that the teachers and staff have fostered and I'm grateful for each and every one of them. And I have many fresh ideas on how to keep that going and engage our community to do the same. Hope I can with you all. Okay. Thank you. All right, board members, you have a written ballot in front of you. So, we will start with um

084completing that. Can fold those and submit those to Dr. Larson with your top candidate. Okay, I'll read the votes. First one, I'm opening one vote for Bill Hiddle. One vote for Monica Wazinski. One vote for Cynthia Autton. One vote for Monica Wazinski or two votes for Monica Wazinski. One vote for Nathaniel Harter and one vote for Carrie Flag. So that's two votes for Monica Wisinski, one vote for Bill Hiddle, one for Nathaniel Harter, one for Cynthia Aden, and one for Carrie Flag. Okay. So, with that um then we would um eliminate the um individuals that did not get any votes and that would be Mr. Fley and Mr. Schmoody. Uh so we can do a second vote and see if there are any changes in the votes. That'll be our next step. Vote number two,

085one vote for Monica Wazinski. One vote for Nathaniel Harter. Two votes for Monica Wisinski. Repeat, please. Um, Monica. Oh, I'm sorry. Two. She Monica has a total of two votes right now. Yes, we're correct, Dean. Sorry. Three votes. Monica Wisinski. Two votes Nathaniel Harter and three votes Nathaniel Harter. So, three votes for Monica, three for Nathaniel. Okay, at this point we could it's it's tied for between um Miss Wisinski and Mr. Harter. We can either try one more vote or we can table this for now. What would the procedure be if we table it? So then we would um come back at the next meeting and revote. Will there be time for any discussion amongst the board? Will there be time for any discussion amongst the board? Um we sure we can either do that

086tonight or we can do that at the next meeting. Um, I think we should discuss. And as long much as I hate to keep everybody super late, I would hate to make all these candidates wait for two weeks. So, I think we should continue. Okay. Do you want to discuss or do you want to try to vote one more time? I think we should discuss. Okay. Okay. Are you going to discuss Does anyone have any comments? Um I would say so. Yes. We need we need a majority. So we need four four votes for one person. Four of the six. Okay. Discussion. No, we're wait. Um, personally, um, just reading prior to the interviews tonight, just reading the letters of intent that everyone sent in, um, I thought Nathaniels was very professionally written and just

087something that set him apart in my mind was that he's the only one that sent in the resume. I just thought that gave him a sense of professionalism. Um, I like his willingness to compromise, meet in the middle. I would like to say um with Nathaniel um I was impressed with his work ethic with uh showing up to many board meetings and putting in the time to learn that too. Yes. His attendance. I think that's that's huge. That shows this isn't an emotional decision. It's uh he really thought it out. Um and I understand he is in a leadership role for his his regular job. So I I appreciate that. I took I took a number of notes for each each of the candidates and first off I appreciate all the candidates that came forward

088and showed their intent. Uh looking at uh the candidates that are left here to decide. I was looking at um their understanding of the school district. a little bit of understanding of operations of of uh finances, the policies and a little bit about budgeting. Um, and what stuck out for the candidate as far as Monica goes, um, just having the experience and understanding of policy and financial and budgeting and school school policy. um I think uh really stuck out for me as far as Nathaniel goes. I appreciate um as well uh his work experience and you know his understanding as far as a manager. Um I like the idea that he mentioned uh to keep the political aspect in the field out of the fact um being that schoolboard is nonpartisan and I appreciated that.

089Uh and as well the test scores of course is not the whole picture. Um what I really like to see is in measurement in success is is really how we value other than test scores some of the outcomes. And uh as I was listening to each of the candidates between Monica and Nathaniel, I heard a little more of that with Monica. I think either candidate would be a welcomed addition to this board. Um I think personally Monica gave a better presentation, better answers to questions. However, Nathaniel did give um of his initial letter of intent and his resume was very telling um and helpful. Um, so it's really a hard decision between the two. There's something I wrote about Monica and it um it kind of alarmed me when she said she thinks she was

090president of I didn't quite catch what she was a president of, but I just thought that was kind of odd since that seems so important. Um, it was the preschool that no longer exists. preschool the nurs Yeah. back back in the day. I both of them are very um both of them are very good candidates for school board. I appreciate them. I appreciate all of you um with your um civil service in mind, civic service. Um, I kind of am torn, honestly. I do feel Nathaniel's um, initial um, thoughts to run for the school board were very well thought out. His answers tonight were short and to the point. Um, with Monica, I I Monica's answers tonight were awesome, very straightforward, and we knew what she was thinking. My concerns with her was like um

091Katie said her intent to to um be a schoolboard member was seemed like oh yeah here's what I want wanted to tell you and I was not impressed with that. I was very impressed with her tonight. So, it is a very difficult decision and like Jill said, one was um a little gave a little more information tonight and the other one gave all that initial information initially. So, it's a very tough decision. Um, same sentiments from me. Um, I think either one would be um a welcome addition to the board. Um, I did like Mr. harder in his um uh the question to what he felt um was my notes here um the most important responsibility of the school board uh member and that was to support the student and the teachers. Um and I

092I I did like that answer um with Mrs. Wisinski um also her answer about setting policy and and making sure that that it supports our academics which is what the board is about. Um so again a difficult decision between the two. Um a little so I think maybe what we'll do is try one more vote and then if we still are at an impass we will have to table this unfortunately. Would you are you going to table or postpone to a later date? Oh because isn't If postponing there's a specific later date tablelingabling is there has to be something correct me if I'm wrong to remove it from the table right like a motion made to bring it back to the agenda from the table whereas either way we'll probably have to make a motion

093to table it until Mrs. Where does it come into play when we're deadlocked? I'm sorry. Where does it come into play when we're deadlocked? Isn't there 61 days there? There is there's a 60-day rule. So, if we are are deadlocked, we can um um I believe that this decision defers to you then. What? I'm sorry. Um I believe the decision defers to you. Yes. a after the 60 days. If we are at impass after 60 days, then the um the appointment falls on the board president. So um I'm really hoping we can get this resolved as a board. Um so let's try one more vote. All right. Vote number three. One vote. Nathaniel Harter. Two votes. Nathaniel Harter. One vote. Monica Wazinski. Two votes. Monica Wazinski. Three votes. Monica Wazinski. and three votes Nathaniel Harter.

094So, we're dead luck. Okay. Okay. I have a question. If we bring Can we bring them back to the next board meeting and ask them a different set of questions to get more information to get a better idea? Is that something that's allowed? We could do a second interview between the the two finalists. Let me just verify Mrs. Hansen if you don't mind because that would be a separate set of questions and we asked everybody. So I just want to make sure that we are allowed to do that. I'm just not 100% certain. Sure. Will you check into that? I will definitely. I just want to be certain we're allowed to do that. Isn't that to the discretion of the board president? The questions. What's that? is aren't if we ask further questions isn't that

095to your is that to your discretion are like which questions are asked um if we would um sorry Jackie Jackie was asking if we could bring the two finalists back and ask further questions is that to your discretion if we would decide to do that as board as board president I don't know that it's my up to my discretion I mean that the statute is just it's vague probably. Yeah. And that's I think where Peggy wants to reach out to council clarification. Thank you. Okay. I'm sorry we can't make a final decision tonight. Thank you to the candidates. Um we will be in touch about this process. Okay. Thank you. All right. At this time, I would uh moving into the remainder of the agenda, I would uh entertain a motion to elect a temporary

096chairman as we move through the um officers. I will make the motion to elect the temporary chairman and temporary clerk. Oh, you have to name You have to say who you want as the temporary chairman. I see. Okay. Jill Veric for temporary chairman and temporary clerk. Um Mark Kundi. We'll do them one at a time. Dean. Okay. Okay. There's a motion for temporary chairman for Jill Verich. Is there a second? I'll second. Okay. Motion by um Aman, second by Kellowarts to elect Jill Verich as the temporary chairman. Any discussion? Roll call. Veric I. Calartt. I Eman. Hi. Kundi Stelsner. I Hansen I Okay, Jill, you need to call for the clerk. Is there a motion to elect a temporary clerk? I'll make a motion to elect Mark Kundi as temporary clerk. Second. Motion by Stellner,

097second by Hansen. Any discussion and then uh roll call by the temporary clerk. Cowarts I. Ecman. Kundi. Stellner. I. Veric. I. Hansen. I. All right. We will move into nominations for board president. Is there a motion? I'll nominate Donna Hansen as board president. I'll second. I will second. Um Jill already did that. That's fine. All right. Any discussion? Uh roll call, please. Aman. I. Kandandy. Stellar. I. Veric. I. Cowarts. I. Hansen. I. Is there a motion to elect a vice president? I nominate Joe Veric. I'll second it. Motion by Kundi, second by Hansen. Any discussion? Roll call, please. Kundi. I Stellner. I. Veric. I. Calartz. I. Aman. I. Hansen. I. And then is there a motion for a clerk? I make the motion to nominate Mark Kundi for clerk. I will second. Motion by Hansen,

098second by Aman. Is there any discussion? Roll call, please. Stellner I. Veric. I. Cowarts. I. Aman. I. Kundi. I Hansen. I. And then is there a motion to elect a treasurer? I nominate Jackie Stner. I'll second it. Motion by Cundy, second by Hansen to nominate Jackie Stellzner for treasurer. Any discussion? Roll call. Veric. Hi. Cowarts. Hi. Awin. Hi. Kundi. Stellner. Hi. Hansen. Hi. What do I do next? I think you you continue on Jill and then Donna will take over after the designations. Isn't that it? Oh, after the designations. I'm sorry. Okay. All right. Um, we will need a motion then uh to uh designate our official depository. Uh, Fortify Bank of Wisconsin, Fortify Bank, Wisconsin local government investment pool, Associated Bank, PMA and American Deposits. Is there a motion? So move. Second. Motion by

099Kundi, second by Hansen to uh for the official depository. Any discussion? Roll call. Cowarts. I. Hackman. Hi. Kundi. Stellner. Hi. Veric. Hi. Hansen. I. And then is there a motion for our official newspaper, the Winn County News? So moved. Second. Motion by Hansen, second by Stellner to nominate the Wii to name the Winnie News as the official newspaper. Any discussion? Roll call, please. Cowarts, I. Ecman, I. Kundi, I tell I. Veric. I. Hansen. I. Is there a motion for our affiliation with the WIAA for high school only? So move. Second. Motion by Cundy, second by Hansen to be affiliated with the I WIAA for high school only. Any discussion? Roll call. Cowarts. I Kundy I Stellner I. Veric. Hi. Hansen. I. And back to you. Okay. Thank you. All right. And we have you have

100your E Academy agreement in your board packet. That's with the um Keel Area School District, correct? Um so anything to add, Dr. Larson? Um no any questions? Um our students do very well there. We'll give you a report at the end of the year on progress. Um it's a nice opportunity for the students to learn in a different manner yet still be a part of our school district so they can participate in our sports, graduation, all those wonderful things. Do you know roughly how many students are involved? I would say about 25 right now. Is it uh still the application date by this semester where as example the second semester their date set so that you have the chance and and so on for each semester. Is that how it still is? Okay. Correct. And

101keep in mind too they have to be making adequate progress otherwise they come back to us as well. So it's they're very closely monitored. Okay. Any other questions? Okay, I'll make a motion to approve the e Academy agreement with the Kill School District. I will second. Motion by Hansen, second by Aman to approve the uh EA Academy agreement. Roll call, please. Aman, I. Kundi Eiselner, I. Veric, I. Cowarts, I. Hansen, I. and the 202526 uh Amro and Winnani PT physical therapy uh agreement there's a slight increase we have some more student needs in this area so there's a slight increase in cost but again it saves us significantly if we were to contract with CISA do we house this contract or does AMRO Amro does okay so with the uh increase in need are you

102still thinking on an average every day or week. Um, approximately. It's just it's all based on need. If we get more kids, then we'll have to adjust and see if it even works for Amal still because obviously they're fulfilling what they need at in their school district as well. A motion. Any other questions? Okay. A motion. So move. Okay. Second. Mush by Kundi, second by Veridge to approve the 202526 contract between Amro and Winnick County for physical therapy services. Roll call, please. Kundi, I Stellner, I. Veric, I. Cowards, I. Awin, hi. Hansen, I. Um, and then the um athletic code, we had um asked Mr. Lee to um tighten up the conduct unbecoming uh academic integrity um violations. Um and it looks like he has done that. Um so we would just need a motion

103to approve the um athletic code. So move Second motion by Kundi, second by Hansen to approve the athletic code with the um new changes with regard to academic integrity. Um any discussion? It's an improvement, but I I'm still not pleased with it. I I think more can be done. I I don't feel that we should um I think it's still a little wishy-washy. But the other thing that is of great concern to me and I'm looking through the the athletic code that was presented at last meeting is the example that we heard in open forum tonight of this student constantly being harassed. This isn't the first time we've heard it. I don't know if these are athletes or extracurricular participants, but I don't really see much in this athletic code or extracurricular code related to

104that. And and maybe it needs to be pointed out. I don't know. Um, you know, if if we're if if kids are being punished for attending parties where they may not even partake in the shenanigans or being punished for cheating, why are they not being properly punished under this code for the type of behavior I'm hearing way too much of? And maybe they are, but it's just it's it's frustrating as a board member to hear Mrs. Trader, if that I apologize if I said that wrong, constantly coming in front of this board with her concerns about her son. It's heartbreaking. That behavior falls under um conduct on becoming of an athlete. So, the bullying or Okay. Um things of that nature fall under that category. Well, I certainly hope the these students, if they are

105athletes or in extracurriculars, are having the book thrown at them as and if it's the same students, they should not be participating in any of our extracurriculars. In my my personal opinion, I'll get off my soap box. Actually, I agree with everything you're saying, Jill. I think it's it's apparent that we have a a bullying issue. I'm sure bullying is always an issue, but it I had tears in my eyes listening to Mrs. Treader tonight and it is sad and breaks my heart that she has to keep coming back. And I agree. I would certainly hope that if there is suspicion that these are athletes that that would be investigated and that they would be it would be taken just as seriously for them as it would for anybody else. I think that's something that

106we need to investigate further as a board. the bullying as a whole. I I will say as I'm not pleased well I'm pleased with the progression on the um cheating part. Um I I will support it tonight but I really hope we have something better more comprehensive next year when we have to go through this and and just so this particular motion is going to be on the athletic code and how the violations and and how they are punishable. Um I think the the and and I I couldn't agree more with both of you that that if they are athletes or or in any of these clubs or anything, they need to be adequately punished. What we're looking at is is the punishments that are listed here that we asked Mr. Lee to go back

107and revise along with Dr. Mashad or or um other administrative staff. So given that, do we have a motion to approve the athletic code as presented? We had Oh, I'm sorry. We did. Okay. Sorry. Can I ask for a bit of a clarification? Sure. This is just conduct on becoming for academic integrity, correct? Yes, that's what we asked him to go back and and so the other part the bullying and harassing is in another section we'll address next year when it comes up again basically or can we address it it's in there under um conduct unbecoming right yeah so that's already in there yes that's what I wanted to make sure that we do have that and we're just saying that we um can we take a look at well no never mind we're good

108thank you okay Okay. Any other discussion? I just have a comment. Sure. Um, now with this uh the the punishment issue, I'm just wondering um and the bullying, I am wondering if this problem with our pair of professionals, our morale is so low. Um I wonder if they can be kind of related. Um, just want to throw that out there. Okay. Okay. So, um, yes. So, based on the code and what we're looking at, um, I would take a roll call on the athletic code. Stellner, I. Veric. I. Cowarts. I. Hecman I Candy I Hansen I Okay. Um public comment at board meeting policy. Um we've talked about this quite a bit. Um so I'm hoping we can come to some kind of um resolution on the policy tonight. So we are looking at the

109number will be assigned by Nola if we decide to split them up. Right now it's 0167.4 and that has to do with public comments at board meetings. We had um asked Mr. Kundi to take this back and put the language in that he had discussed at the last meeting. Um, and so now here it is in front of us and um, we need to vote on this policy. Um, Donna, I have a question for clarification, please. So, I was looking through the minutes from the last board meeting. And the last sentence states, to make things clear, a motion was made by Hansen, seconded by Aman to table policy 0167.3. Send back to committee to get the language written for clearer understanding. Roll call. Motion approved 6 to 0. Um, it's my understanding committee has not

110met. So, how is this on tonight's agenda if we took a roll call vote to send it to committee? So that's the next policy. That's 106. But at the time we made that vote, it was all one policy. We talked about policy committee possibly splitting it into two. We did not vote that night to split it into two. Correct. So So what we what we asked Mr. country to do is take the language that was written and not but not in front of us to put that language into the policy. So you can speak to this. I don't know that that required a committee meeting. I'm just stating what's in the minutes like it states in the minutes and there was a roll call vote. So to follow Robert's rules of order, I don't think

111this can be on the agenda because we sent it to committee and committee did not meet. I understood that I was instructed to bring the policy back with the language that I read at the last meeting and I submitted that and I uh have it here with the changes because of the fact that it was not written in the policy. It was to be brought back so that you could clearly see it within the policy and that's what I did. Um yeah, I I didn't see this language till three days ago. Um now I remember during the meeting um when Mrs. Bar suggested we separate the policy which would now be 167.4 instead of3 and um the problem with that is uh yeah we didn't discuss this new addition that Mrs. Ver added in a

112policy meeting. I didn't add anything. It was just a suggestion. Oh. So, uh, and the way this is written, I I do not, um, agree with this. Um, the general public cannot, um, talk about anything for an open forum. Um, they'd have to do the 7-day, uh, notice. And if that's between meetings, this could be weeks later, which could almost make that item unactionable, especially in the summer months if we have one meeting a month. Um, I do agree though with the 167.3 that revision, but the problem is the 167 U.4 four was not um in the policy meeting. The policy here that we're talking on is not at all to do with open form. This is not saying anything at all to eliminate the open form. This is itemizing the process of what can

113be and what's should be or so said according to the policy if it's approved. as far as what's on the agenda, the individual that's speaking to indicate to the board or the item that they are speaking on. I understand. And as well keep it to the agenda of the meeting. This does not say anything at all. Um and it has never been discussed to bring it forward to eliminate open form. The discussion has been circling around what's allowed at public comment at the meeting, whether it's agenda item or none. And this is saying um as far as speaking on an agenda item that they're speaking to for the current meeting. So you're saying public comment is still an open forum just like Oshkosh. Yes. There was never talk on taking the open form away or

114eliminating it. This is just adding or correcting or or so bringing up what is followed during the process of items talked about in our public comment part of the open forum. And maybe that's where the misunderstanding came. I don't know. But I don't ever recall that being brought forward as far as to eliminate open form. Yes. If that's the case, why divide this policy in half then? Everything should be included in 167.3. If we could just pause for a moment. If you were to go back into your board packet and look at the whole policy together, we were asked to potentially separate it or in our agenda it also says you may vote to combine them. There is no changes from your last packet on the public comment at board meetings. So to me, I

115don't know why we would meet on that. There's absolutely no changes. We were asked to divide them into two, but the board could choose to combine them. There is nothing different that you saw at the previous board meeting that's in your packet right now. As far as the separation of the public comment and then the request for an agenda item. So, the first policy potentially whatever the number is going to be is public comment at board meetings. That information has not changed from since the policy was one. So the green parts are the same, the red parts are the same. There's been nothing changed since that meeting. It's the next policy that we were asked to put the language in that you had requested, Dean, and that's what was done to me. There's no meeting.

116There's no reason to meet. It's done. It was set out for us. We put it on the board agenda. Um, can I say something please? after listening to everybody tonight and after seeing like this actually in front of me like we discussed at the last meeting. Um I feel like if we if we limit open forum to specifically agenda items, I feel like it's going to be it's going to damage our relationship with the community. um which has already been rocky as of the last year. I don't think that that's a good move for the district. Um I think it's our job as people that are chosen by this community, voted for, put in these seats by this community to listen to what they have to say. Um I respect that we have a meeting

117to run. I respect we have business to conduct. Um, but I mean, let's be honest, we usually have a handful of speakers and they only have three minutes. And um, I think somebody said this tonight, and I'm sorry if I'm stealing your quote, um, but if we can't give 10 minutes, even though it's negative in nature, to let somebody speak their mind, um, like look at Mrs. Tredder tonight. um that maybe we don't belong on this board. It doesn't sit well with me. Um so with that, I make a motion to remove everything shaded in green on policy 0167.4 B. Um anyone may comment on agenda items for that meeting. If requesting a future agenda item, please refer to the process on policy 0167.3 agenda item requests. Letter D and agenda item they are speaking

118to. Letter G use of specific names of district personnel, titles or identifiable identifiable descriptions in a negative matter is not allowed and may lead to legal liabilities. Letter I on the meeting agenda. And number one underneath letter K, the presiding officer will I would like to remove or not related to the current agenda item. I I would second that for the sake of transparency. Uh I agree. I don't think this would um clog up our system here with the meeting uh make it last too long. I I don't like listening to negative things either, but uh it's it's it's important. That's that's who we uh that's who we work for. I was just going to say, so so you're okay if if folks get up and they name district personnel and titles and identifiable descriptions

119in a negative manner? No. No, no, no, no. I believe that's what your gabble's for. I believe, you know, hammer them down. Uh, no names, minor or adult. Well, the motion is to remove that language. Subg. Yeah, that's what she wanted. Deleted. Yeah, if it's in a negative matter is not allowed. So positive matter is allowed when a name is used. That makes sense. G. Well, the motion is to pull G out, which that's the primary motion I believe. G can can stay. So then you're not seconding her motion. Correct. Because I don't there's no if it's not in a negative manner, then that's no slander or or liable involved. Can I amend my motion to leave letter G and remove all of the other items that I requested, please? Okay. Is there a second

120to the amendment? I will second that. Okay. Um, so we have a motion on the table to remove any of the language shaded in green for policy 0167.4 public comment at board meetings. Um, outside of letter G, that is the amendment. Is there any other discussion? Is it the discussion on the amendment you're looking for? Yes, because that's what we'll vote on first is the amendment. Okay. Okay. I will close the discussion. Roll call, please. Veric, I. Cowarts, I. Ecman, I. Kundy, I Stellner, I. Hansen, I. That motion has passed. That amendment motion has passed. I would move to not enact policy temporarily numbered 0167.3 agendum items requests since the public has the ability to request an agenda item in open forum. So your your motion is to say say that again for me. My

121motion is that we don't do anything with 167.3 because those agenda item requests can be made in open forum. So I say we just get rid of it. Don't include it. Okay. So you're saying take out the if denied all community? No, I'm saying none of it. So, if I understand you right, Jill, you're just saying that remove this this policy because when they speak in open forum, they can request a policy be put on the agenda. Correct. Because it it allows them to speak to anything within our legitimate jurisdiction. They can request it be put on the agenda. Correct. Doesn't mean it's going to be put on the agenda, but they can request it. That's correct. Okay. I have a question. Does that mean that we would just revert back to the current policy

122for placing items on the agenda? Well, we just passed 167.4 public comment at board meetings, which would allow people to request agenda items. So, I just say we get rid of 167.3. Yeah, I understand your motion. I'm just saying like if we are just completely getting rid of this policy we or maybe this is a Peggy question. We currently have a policy in place for agenda item requests. So we would just revert back to that. We are modifying that sorry you're modifying that policy completely. I believe it's labeled one 0167.3. So essentially, I think what Neiola will do is adopt the public comment at board meetings as one 01.673 and leave out all that other language because they were together. All this language is all together in one. So we're just going to eliminate that

123language from the current policy is what I hear Jill's motion as. So then um who then would decide if a requested agenda goes on the That's my question. on the agenda because we still need that language in there. I feel which would be the the admin district administrator and the board president. Yeah. That the whole reason we created 167.3 was so the general public, the parents, so they have recourse. If something's denied on the agenda, we can take a vote on seven board members to see if it can get put on And that's that's very democratic. I I love the idea. I don't know why we'd think of anything different. If something's that important to somebody, at least they have a chance, a second chance to get it on the agenda. So this is apples

124and oranges. I 167.3 is the apple and then the orange is 167.4. That's for open forum. If somebody wants to bring something up that's urgent or just came into their mind, whatever, they have that ability and we have the time every night to listen to that. So 167.3 as it's presented in your in your packet has not been approved. So this language that says it it gets brought back to the board for a vote has not been approved. So that's still up for discussion, correct? 167.4 is still still open. So 167.4 we've dealt with. We're we're done with that policy. Correct. Now we're on agenda items. Yeah. All of a sudden, uh, three was thrown into the mix for deleting it. Yeah. And I do need a second. I I I made a motion. If

125somebody wants to second it, second it. And if you don't want to second it, don't second it. I mean, I agree what you suggested, Jill, about separating the two policies. Um, because like I said, apples and oranges. Um, 167 is about parents being able to have a recourse, a second shot at getting something on the agenda if it's if it's shot down. Okay. So Jill's motion was to just get rid of 016.3 agenda item requests. Is there a second to abolish that policy? Second. Okay. Motion by Veridge, second by Kundi to abolish policy 0167.3 agenda item requests. Could I just note I'm not exactly sure what policy number will come back. So if I know we're saying 0.1673, but it doesn't matter. Well, I just want to make sure that's clear because that's the motion.

126Well Well, I'm I'm just for reference so everybody's on the same page. I want to use that that number. Okay. I have a question though. So they can request it in open session for a future agenda item. But is it still that it is determined by the administrator and the board president whether that will be actually put on the agenda? because you're taking that. Is there anywhere anywhere that says who has can the district administrator or the board president have to approve that agenda item or not approve that agenda item because you're kind of taking that out of the whole picture alto together if I understand correctly that's why I feel we need this policy but we have a motion and a second on the table so I'm going to close the discussion to vote

127on that motion Roll call, please. Stellner, no. Faric, I cowards. No. Hecman, can I have clarification? We're We're voting no to shoot it down. I'm sorry. You're voting yes to shoot it down. No to keep it or to not shoot it down? No. Kundi. Yes. Hansen. No. That motion fails. Fail forward too. Yep. Okay. I I'm going to make a motion to approve um 0167.3 um as presented in our packet eliminating the language. If denied, all community requests for an agenda item that are not recommended by the district administrator and board president will be shared with all board members. If any board member requests the item be considered, the full board will determine at its next meeting whether to add to the future agenda. If approved, the item will be placed on the next available

128board meeting agenda. Second, was that you? No. Motion by Hansen, second by Verich to approve um 0167.3 um eliminating the um larger paragraph of regarding all community requests. Any other discussion? I will close the discussion. Roll call, please. Veric I cowart no Ecman no Kundi I Stellner I Hansen I 4 to 24 okay that motion has passed four to two all All right. Uh, administrative reports. Um, those were in your packet. Anything to add from administration? Any comments from the board? Um, I I do want to um congratulate send accolades to um Mrs. Zable and Mrs. Loy on on the art show of the um the special ed. I I thought that was incredible and and also the the mailing station that that you did, Mr. Provos, too. So, um anything else from the board?

129Okay. Um board reports, any communications? Uh yes, I have one communication from Kim Zeller, the health room aid on the passing of her father. Winnie County Community School District Board of Education and administration. Thank you so much for your kind words and generous gift. The gift will be donated to the American Legion chapter 14 that my dad faithfully served for over a decade. I would also like to express my gratitude to the Winnie County Community School District staff at all three schools for helping me through this difficult time. Jennifer Kray, Allison Biasi, Lauren Dodd showed me so much grace and love during the end of my father's illness and encouraged me daily to spend time with him and my family. I will forever be grateful for that time. Love, Kimberly Zeller. Okay. Um, committee reports,

130uh, human resources and finance. We had our support staff listening session on May 12th. It went well. Um, I think the board received all uh notes related to that and we will be following up uh with uh on that. And then our next meeting is still June 6th at 8:30 a.m. Thank you. Marketing and public relations, we did not meet and policy. Nothing other at this time as we went through the policies this evening. When we do get a number from Niola, of course, and and get the approval all back, we'll let uh of course the board know the number of what that policy will actually be. Okay. And with that, I would entertain a motion to move into executive session. I'll make a motion to go into administrative. I'll second. Motion by Aman, second

131by Kowarts to move into executive session under stat state statute. 19.85 uh to approve executive session minutes from May 5th. Uh approve minutes from May 7th, special schoolboard meeting and under state statute 19.85 sub1 subc considering employment promotion compensation or performance evaluation data of any public employee over which the governmental body has jurisdiction or exercises responsibility regarding support staff listening sessions. Um the uh board may move into will move into open session and may take action on things discussed in closed session. Roll call, please. Stellner, hi. Veric. Hi. Cowarts. Hi. Amman's