001[Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Donnelly. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. Heat. [Music] order. This is a meeting of the uh Winn County Community School District Board of Education. It is May 5th, 2025 at 6:30 p.m. We are in the high school large group lecture. Meeting notices were sent to members of the press, members of the school board, and were posted on the front doors and/or in the vestibules of district school buildings. This is a meeting of the board in public for the purpose of conducting the school district's business and is not to be considered a public hearing. There may be time for public comment as indicated in the agenda. The meeting will also be available to watch live at www.youtube.com/wini. Please stand and join me in the pledge of the United States of America
002and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Roll call, please. Stellner here. Veric here. Cowarts here. Aman here. Kundi here. Hansen here. At this time I will administer the oath of office to our two uh elected members. You would stand and raise your right hand. at the same time. I repeat after me. I Mark D. Kundy Katy Cowards having been elected to the office of school board having been elected to the office of school board of the Winn County Community School District of the Winnie County Community School District but have not yet entered upon the duties thereof but not yet have entered upon the duties thereof. swear that I support the Constitution of the United States. swear that I support the Constitution of the
003United States and the Constitution of the State of Wisconsin and the Constitution of the State of Wisconsin and will faithfully discharge the duties of set office to the best of my ability. and will faithfully discharge the duties of set office to the best of my ability. So help me God. So help me God. Help me God. Congratulations. Thank you. Sorry. Thank you. Yes. And recognizing our administrative team, we have uh Dr. Mashad, Mr. Maner, Mr. Dabner, and Mr. Jerabbec. All right. And for the visitors, there is a signup sheet at the back of the room. If you could kindly uh write your name down as a visitor, we do keep track of that in the uh district office. And now is the time for open forum. Um, and just a a brief reminder, please please
004address the board and um keep your comments and requests within the jurisdiction of the board. Um, do not name staff members, students, um, etc. Uh, Mr. Mark Failey. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, of the school board. I've applied for the I've applied for the uh position, the vacant position on the school board. Uh, not exactly something I really desire, but an obligation that I was taught in the school district I had to my community and my nation. I find it real interesting that you have in your in the oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States as well as the state of Wisconsin. Unfortunately, this school district needs to take a hard look at what is about to occur in the state of Wisconsin. the elite the defiance of the state governor
005Tony Evers and the department of public educ instruction totally against current federal guidelines making them subject to arrest. We need to come up with a with a solution of what happens if we do lose the federal funding. The school our school or who's going to suffer? The students, of course. What about the school? What about the school security officers? You're going to make their jobs a whole lot tougher because you may have to cut a lot of the positions. I'm sorry. I don't want anybody to take that chance. I don't want you guys to suffer the repercussions of of state decisions. I don't that's why I want that's why I'm I've applied for the vacancy. There's going to be there's going to be, you know, poop rows downhill. And guess who's going to be at
006the bottom to pick it all up? Yes. Ladies and gentlemen of the board, ladies and gentlemen of the audience, we are. We've made life more than difficult as it should be through the COVID hoax, through Title N stuff over potentials. We've got to be able to look at contingencies. What happens if Now you were worried about what happens about imaginary situation? I'm sorry. The consequences are going to be and the loss are going to be much greater if you think about it and have a little insight. This is a lot worse than the speech I gave back in 2013 warning. Thank you, Mr. Phale. That's your your time. I didn't see three minutes, but that's okay. I respect that because I'm a veteran and cutting mail definitely. Thank you. Will not do you any good.
007Um, Mrs. Bara, Miriam Bara. There are a few board members here tonight who have been pretending to not see this personal attack on me and my freedom of speech, brushing it off as, "Oh, this is just how we run business around here." First, first of all, did you not hear the two board members tell me I couldn't speak on my matter the first time I came to speak? Most of you all up here heard that, but everyone else that night spoke on whatever they wanted to. Second, did you not see me muted, but only for my speech the second I came to speak? Your board member received board member down here at the end received text messages telling her I was muted from the folks watching at home. After she told the sound man to
008restore the sound, she could have allowed me to redo my speech that very night, but knowing what I was going to speak on, she didn't. Tearing your heads no longer, she's the reason why I'm not on my special ed bus route anymore. Yeah, she pulled me off last week. Mrs. Bara, I'm not going to let you speak about anyone like that. What? Your employer is not under the jurisdiction of the board. So, I'm going to ask you to move on or take your seat, please. I am I am now a conflict of interest. Problem is, it's too late. I've gotten to know my writers, the families very well, including the staff who worked with them. I communicate with these folks often. I will always know what is happening. These are my people. This board member
009has acted out of spite, anger, evil, and power. She has taken away the security blanket, a safe place, and a friend to these most vulnerable children. Having a disabled child myself, I understand these kids. I got to know each one and their likes and dislikes. On the way to and from school, we talked, we sang, we laughed, and we even danced in our seats. Every staff member, parent, rider knows that that's how it was on my bus. But not anymore. This member, board member, tried to hurt me, but you've done a lot more than that. You hurt our special ed kids and their families. You ripped away everything that was special to them on their bus. Just this past January, one of my young riders eloped, and ran out of school by himself. No staff
010member was in sight. He ran into the road. I jumped off my bus to retrieve him, called him to me. I placed him in his seat and buckled him in place. Only then did staff come out the school doors to find him. He was safe on my bus. The staff member told me how this young student eloped from her because that's what I do with the teacher's parents and parents. We have great communication that our board member down here likes to call a breach of contract. By the way, this boy's parent was not told of his elopments this year until now. Yes, that's right. His parent was notified a couple weeks ago. In fact, the day after I spoke at the last board meeting about elopments and now here we are tonight with the board
011members voting on your right and my right to speak at these meetings moving forward. Of course, this board member I've been speaking about tonight enacted this policy. Thank you. That's time. Mrs. Zachman. Good evening. Laura Aman, Mom for Liberty. No surprise I'm here to talk about academics as that's what I've been talking about to this group for the last two years. I'm I spent the every after every board meeting I tried to think about what can we be doing better and differently and I have some suggestions for the board. What I did this uh the last couple days was pull every agenda since September to tonight's agenda to see what is it that the board is focused on. I put them into buckets. You might argue that they're not the right buckets, but this is
012what I've determined. Under facilities, there were six items on um board doc on board agendas. Safety two, finance nine, teachers, contracts, coaches, WA was on there five times. Academics three and I'm going to come back to that. Policies, 56 policies have been reviewed. And then student programs, calendars, handbooks, etc. There were nine items on various agendas. The three that I put on academics, I could argue they're not really academics, but it was the ACT 20 student testing demonstration that I thought was good for everyone to see. And then there was a GPA ranking process that was discussed as well as something called ACT 95. I wasn't at that meeting, so I wasn't sure. What I'd like to see is more information on our agendas around what is going on academically. And you know, we have
013two board meetings a month. If one if you made 10, 11, 12 agendas throughout the year that had some focus on academics, I think all the parents and everyone here would really appreciate it. It could be updates on what are we doing for struggling readers? What's going on with some of the curriculum that we've had in place? Do you think it's working? Is it not? um when we're when you the assessments are all done for the year coming in and really reporting more detailed around what are you seeing and what are and what's happening. We believe we all want this school to be the best school but we don't have all the information and we and I think as concerned citizens and parents we want to help. Is there curriculum that's not working? Do you
014need more volunteers from the community to come and help and uh our struggling readers? what's working and what's not working. And I really think if you if you could be more transparent and as a board I would think that that should be your number one thing that you guys are talking about and instead we're talking about endless policies and I understand those are DPI requirements but that's a lot of time talking about policies that um you know I've never seen so many policies in my life and I've worked in corporate America and I understand that's not optional for you but how can we do a better job of weaving in more academic information. Thank you, Adam Erenss, Adam Erons Bemore. Um, just wasn't planning on saying something, but I wanted to follow up just a
015question I had in my own head about policies because I would just like to know how much is being spent uh to Neiola. You don't have to. You can write your own policies. I mean, so I just I would like to know how someone can find that out for me. How much is spent giving money to Neiola. So, um, since tonight we have on the agenda and correct me if I am wrong on anything here, um, because I'm I guess I'm a little confused about the committee meeting last week. So, at the 4:21 board meeting, the board reviewed policy 16.7, which is on the agenda tonight, but public com public comment at board meetings. U board member Aman proposed language changes that were discussed and the board unanimously agreed to the concept and sent it
016back to the committee to fine-tune the language and include it in the next version of the policy. So I also attended the policy committee meeting held to the discuss the language and it uh I know Peggy had brought forward the proposed language which had been reviewed by legal I believe. I don't know if that was or not but however both Donna and Mark did not approve the language in the meeting. So I was just wondering in viewing the agenda the policy is on the agenda to be voted on and from what I can see on our end it does not include the language that the board agreed on suggested by Mr. Actman last week. So, um I also don't remember a formal vote being taken at the policy committee or agreeing to move the policy
017forward without the language. Uh I am unclear procedurally how this is being brought forward for a vote. um if this consu um conceptual changes agreed to by the board are not included, I don't believe proper procedures are being followed here. And I don't really think they're ever really in the policy committee because I don't think I've never heard a roll call. Um I don't the I don't even think the policy minutes are included publicly. I've never seen them. Um so I don't think they're posted online. the committee meeting minutes. Obviously, o um open records laws and such and also the quorum that was posted yet a sitting member was kicked out of that. That's that's a huge violation of open meetings laws. Maybe, you know, a mistake. Okay. But that can't happen. So, all right.
018Thank you. Thank you. Okay, with that I will close the open forum and move on to the consent agenda. I will entertain a motion for the consent agenda. I'll make a motion. Okay. For 5 A through G. Second. I second. Okay. Motion by Aman, second by Veridge to approve the consent agenda. Any questions or comments from the board? Okay. Roll call, please. Stellner, I. Veric. I. Cowarts. Abstain. Aman. I. Kundi. Hansen. I. Um, I have a question. Why did Katie abstain? Yeah, she did. But not from consent. She justent. No, consent. You don't have to abstain. Oh, sorry. Okay. Okay. Um uh approve minutes from April 21st uh regular school board meeting. So moved. Second. I have I have an a I have an addition. Um well just you've got to wait. Hold on. Okay.
019Okay. Um motion by Varage, second by Kundi to approve the minutes from April 21st um 2025. Um discussion Dean. Um basically it was it was a um something that was omitted. Um the minutes from April 21 um only say that it was sent back to committee. Um what I wanted to have added in and it's not because my name is there um I just want it for posterity sake for history. We need to put um the board discussed the policy and proposed language made from Dean Aman but I don't care if my name is used um and unanimously agreed to the concept and then sent the policy back to committee. Um that's three months from now. I won't remember uh what happened and I think that's that's needed to be added. So if we look
020back on how we got to May 5th, we'll know what happened in the committee meeting before that. It does say in here the two policies will go back to committee for further review and then brought back for approval. Yes. And there was no vote taken for that recommendation. So if there's no vote, I cannot put that in the minutes. The recommendation was adhered to by bringing the policy back to the committee. Okay. Well, still if somebody other than us or uh even one of us looked back on the history of it, we don't know how we got to the uh April 21 or that was actually the 30th that meeting. Um, that's why I thought it was important to have that in there. And I think you'll see in the notes, my notes about that
021policy once we get there. Your verbiage is right in those that notes with your name. So if you go to my notes. No, that's the policy. So my notes should be I I agree with the written change that we have here for today for May 5th. This is Peggy's notes that she's referring to. Okay. Yeah, I agree with the change. Um the problem is how did we morph from what we got from Niola for 167.3 and the verbiage all changed. I'm just uh kind of curious on that too. The uh policy of 167.3 there has been no changes from the original reading. At the last board meeting, it was recommended for changes and it was referred back to committee. There was no motion. There was no voting that took place. We brought that policy back
022to committee as we had our committee meeting last week to review the the language that Peggy has in her notes. But the language that Peggy has in her notes, there was no mo motion. There was no vote. It was just a recommendation to take it back for review to committee and we did do that. Um, could I just can I say something? Um, I don't want to speak for you, Dean. I think what Dean is getting at is that in the minutes he would like that wording put in there so that it's published to the public so that the public can see what his proposed wording was. Is that correct, Dean? That's true because we actually have two minutes sheets unless I'm misunderstanding you. One for us. So the one for the public doesn't give
023how the process went. Dean, I think whatever happens with that policy tonight, that can be included in those minutes because we didn't have that language that you proposed at our April 21st meeting. So there's no way that language could be in our minutes then. It wasn't developed yet. You kind of started to massage it and tweak it, but then you brought it to policy. So again, however the board decides that policy ends up reading, I think Mark could certainly include that in the minutes both ways, but it was not something that was approved. We didn't weren't aware of that language on April 21st. We were developing it as you requested and that's hence why we went back to the policy meeting then. Well, that's fine as long as it's recorded somewhere so we can look
024back in history and realize how it happened. The language that you discussed in our policy committee meeting, Dean, um is in Peggy's board notes. The discussion at the meeting was just suggestive language potential of a possible way of appeals and or bringing forth and but there was again no further motion or discussion is a vote taken. So, in Peggy's notes, which I filed with each of the board uh documentations, once the uh minutes are approved, those go along with that. That will show the language um that you see in Peggy's notes tonight that reflect the suggestive language that was discussed at our committee meeting last week. Yep. That's great. Good. Let's let's vote. Okay. All right. Um, roll call, please. Stellner, I. Very I. Cowarts. Abstain. Aman. Hi. Kundi. Hansen. I. Approval of the minutes
025from April 22nd board workshop. So moved. Second. Second. I'll second the motion. Okay. Motion by Veric, second by Kundi to approve the April 22nd board workshop uh minutes. That was the CISA workshop. Um that uh we went over the um uh the improve the improvement um continuous improvement plan for the administration and the board and the district. Any [Music] questions? Okay. Roll call, please. Cowards. Abstain. Ecman, abstain. Kundi Telsner. I. Veric. I. Hansen. I uh the 2526 extracurricular code. Uh Mr. Tyler Lee here. Uh he's our athletic director. He will answer any of your questions. Um I would say subst sub substantively the code has not changed. We had a lot of formatting issues we needed to do. Um but I would say one of the major changes is um the length of game suspensions.
026We used to use what uh max games and I'm making this number up but let's say uh baseball could have 26 baseball games. they never got to that maximum amount of games just because of rain and scheduling and all the everything that spring brings. So, um Mr. Lee decided to uh propose a three-year rolling average. So, to look at the seasons like how many um games did they actually play over three years and then base suspensions upon those numbers. So, I would say that's one of the biggest changes in the code. Um, but again, a lot of formatting, um, some verbiage changes, making sure we had it right for middle school and high school. But, um, Tyler is willing to answer any questions as well. I I have one question for you while you're walking
027to the to the mic. um with the WIA's uh approval of the nil or the names images likeness I I assume that that's going to be is that anything that needs to be in our code do you think? So um that'll be part of the WIA eligibility form which is basically a bulletin that parents and students sign off on before they participate in sports. So right now that's part of our registration process to go over all the eligibility rules. So now the NIL uh will also be a part of of that bulletin. Okay. Thank you. I have a question on um the violation structure for conduct unbecoming for academic integrity. And just for board reference I'm at the top of page 8-11. And then like for the first violation, it says loss of extracurricular eligibility
028for 10 to 25% of the season. And we see this range. And I'm very uncomfortable with a range because that's going to be open to interpretation. And so I'm I'm my question is why is there a range and not just similar to um the you know substance abuse kind of violations. Um, so when we review that, Lee and I kind of talk about where we're at with the code the year previous and if there's changes that that need to be made. Um, part of the academic integrity, they there's also a matrix that they use within the the high school. And so, let's say somebody was caught cheating on a homework assignment in the commons before class, that that might not warrant a code violation or or a reference to the code yet based on the
029matrix. So, um, that's part of it, but then also even within the matrix, there might be if it's somebody's first offense, but they're, um, let's say cheating on a summitative assessment and it warrants a percentage, uh, based on what they did because it goes in as a grade, but yet somebody else was also their first offense, but they not only stole the answer key from their teacher, they started distributing to all their friends. And it just might this the the level of academic integrity might be different even though it still was their their first offense is what we talked about on that. Okay. I just feel cheating is cheating, you know? I mean whether it's sitting in the commons cheating or stealing an answer key and I guarantee you the kid cheating in the commons
030is probably doing greater cheating too. So that that's just my concern with that. I mean, I respect that, but the concern I have is then it, you know, if something gets appealed to us, I feel like it's just a slippery slope. Um, and there's also then that potential for the appearance of someone being favored. You know, maybe it's a star athlete or, you know, and I just I feel like we need to have I personally feel I mean, it's up to the board. There should be more cut and dry delineations and not so much a matrix. Anyone else questions, comments? I agree with Jill that it would be much easier to defend if it did go to to appeal if there were more of a matrix there for us to follow a guide. Are you
031suggesting uh Jill as we go through every violation to have a set instead of a range or just in first violation or Well, what I'm looking at is I mean if you look on, you know, where there's a delineation of games that that they have to be stay out of or activities they have to stay out of for when they, you know, get caught drinking or what have you. That's set. That's easy. But when it's this academic integrity, um it it's to me there's there's too much gray area there. And and um I just I thinking to issues previously, I I think we it should be clear. That's just what I'm getting at. So, if it is, you know, a a set, you're missing a game or you're missing two games, what have you, you
032know, um but I just don't like that range. Just a note too, and I I I don't disagree with Mrs. Veric. Um, the appeal process is about a if the student had their due process and they felt something procedure was procedurally was wrong. I can see how they might say, "Well, Johnny two years ago got X punishment." I'm not sure if that fits into procedure violation, but that's how a appeal comes to the board is the student feels they didn't um procedures weren't followed. Um, it's not necessarily appealing the consequence. Yeah, but I understand what you're saying as well. Would you consider tightening that up? Yeah. Um Lee and I can look at that and see if there's a way to do that. I know I know we discussed it a little bit and there
033was some examples that were brought forth and and and some of the examples like you said, you could look at it as cheating is cheating, but but again there the severity were could be very different from from one student to the next. But but I definitely hear you in in the you want to eliminate some of that gray area too. Yeah. Does any a board member want to propose something like 1025 for the first violations or do you wish for us to bring this back after some conversation? I would suggest you take a look at it and bring it back. That would be my thought. Okay. Are there any I mean let's then we'll make sure we go through other questions because then we'll just bring back that portion right there questions. I don't know
034if it can be um you know akin to what is the on page uh 88-9 the AODA possession use and consumption that's pretty clear um for those You guys bring it back if that's okay. Sure. Okay. Um, so we'll table this for Are there any other questions? No. Yeah. Are there any other questions or comments about the code? Katie, Dean? Okay. All right. And I'll say too just one of the things that we looked at or talked about was the um because it is a school district code of conduct. So there are some times in there where there we distinguish some of the differences between middle school versus high school because of length of season things like that. So that was another um reason for some of the purple and some of these just so
035we can it's all one cold but at the same time it we may not be able to look at middle school as the same as as high school just with um probably the biggest thing their seasons are so short. Well, and I also appreciate um more definition between the clubs and the the um teams and um the clubs, the teams, and the sports. That's helps clarify some things, too. So, I appreciate the time you put into that. Can we have a motion to table? Yes, I would entertain a motion to table. So, moved. Second. Uh motion by Veric, second by Stellzner to uh table the 2526 extracurricular code. Um at this time, roll call, please. Aman, I ki I Veric. Hi. Cowarts. Hi. Hansen. I Okay. Thank you, Mr. Lee. Um the Winn County Community
036School District continuous improvement plan. In your packet, um you have the cover sheet for our continuous improvement plan that was discussed at our board workshop. Um Mrs. Aman, I completely agree with you. More focus on academics and this will document will greatly help us because this is going to guide all of our decision- making. And so the four areas if people can't see it are learning and academics and then there's criteria in each of those that will give us an overall grade in that section. And then there's engagement connection that um involves student involvement, staff retention, things like that. That section will give us an overall grade, finance and operations, which I agree we talk about a lot. And then safe and healthy schools. So those four areas will guide what we are doing in
037our school district. Um, like I alluded to earlier, right now we're just at the district level. Next, we're going to work on the principles in their buildings and director's levels. Then it'll go into classrooms. So, it'll be a slow process moving down this chain, but making sure everybody understands the end goals. Any questions or comments from the board? I think Mr. Nitsky did a nice job um at the workshop um explaining what you know the role of the board is in all of this and it's basically to oversee this process and administration will bring um updates to us on uh on interim levels. I move to approve the Winn County Community School District's continuous improvement plan. I'll second it. Motion by Verich. Um, second by Hansen to approve the continuous improvement plan for the district.
038Roll call, please. Kundi, I Stellner, I. Veric. Hi. Cowarts. Hi. Aman. Hi. Hansen. I uh policies. Mr. Kundi. All right. The policies that we have forward tonight have been reviewed by the policy committee and brought forth for the recommendation of approval. I just like to comment on a message that was commented in open forum. Our policies that we review are the main process in the board's responsibility. The process is that whenever there's a statute change, the policies come forward for approval. We have to approve as statutes change. Um, at times we see a number of policies. At times we don't see as many. It's kind of a cycle throughout the year, but as they come forward for any verbiage or any language change, it's a board's responsibility to maintain updated policy and vote on the
039statutes as they change for policy for the community school district. It seems like a lot. That's why we bring only so many forward at each meeting so that each member of the board of education has the understanding of each policy for our school district. And um we are up to date as far as the statute changes. There are a few policies that will be coming for some new changes um but they'll be coming within the next month's forward or just as school year starts. First policy tonight is public comment at board meetings. Um some of the information that the board was given as far as public comment, we did some checking within school districts. We did checking with uh WBO. We did checking with uh CISA 6. We did checking with our our legal council.
040And so what we're bringing forth is some of this suggestive that was given to us from these entities as well as the public uh in public forum at times for comment as far as how we do handle and carry through with our public comment at board meetings. Um I'm going to read it. read it with the language change that we see and if there's language change that wants to be brought forward, it'll be brought forward, discussed, and then voted upon. The recommendations that we talk on as far as this policy from the entities that I stated, not only CISA, but Wisconsin Association of School Board as well as legal counsel gave us direction on their thoughts and as we do have discussion on this policies, we will discuss and bring that into play. So on
04110-1, is that the one here? 10-1. Want to make sure I'm following all the same pages. Okay. Policy 167-3, public comment at board meetings. The board recognizes the value of public comment on educational issues and the importance of allowing members of the public to express themselves on district matters. Agenda item. Any person or group who would like to have an item put on the agenda shall submit their written, this includes email request, to the district administrator and board president no later than seven business days prior to the meeting and include name and address of the participant, group affiliation if and when appropriate, topic to be addressed. Such requests shall be subject to the recommendation of district administrator and the board president. There was some questions as we bring forward the rest of the language on
042this first page 10-1. And I think Jill, you were uh one of the board members that brought forward some suggestive as far as language. And as we go through these, if you want to chime in or anyone that has comment or question, you can. And then as we go from page to page, if there's new language, we'll add that in as well. Public comment section of the meeting to permit fair and orderly public expression. The board the board may provide a period for public comment at any regular meeting of the board and publish rules to govern such comment in board meetings. The preciding officer of board meeting at which public comment is permitted shall administer the rules of the board for its conduct. The presiding officer shall be guided by the following rules. Letter A.
043Public comment shall be permitted as indicated on the order of business before the board takes official action on any issue of substance andor at the discretion of the preciding officer. And I think the next one Jill is maybe where you have some language. Yeah, I um I know at the last meeting Mr. Mr. Aman had this process in mind for agenda items getting on here and since then and I really wish Mr. Aman and and Mrs. Callowarts had been at that workshop because Ted Knightsky spoke to agendas and it was very helpful and powerful and one of the items he mentioned is limiting the public comment on current agenda items. Um, it allows the board to get through their agenda and hear that comment and and move forward. Um, it's it's not getting rid of
044the request for an agenda item in the future. Um, those requests can still be made. Uh, Mr. Nitsky, who also is a uh he is a mayor, I believe, of Port Washington, he says they that is how they run their meetings. They can only comment on an agenda item. I'm pretty sure the town of Winchester has the same process or another local municipality around here does. So my proposition is that hang on should I read that B would read anyone having a legitimate interest in the action of the board may comment during the public portion of the meeting as to an agenda item for that meeting. Okay. Um and letter C, attendees must register their intentions to comment in the public portion of the meeting on which agenda item they are aiming to speak at
045at the meeting. That language, which agenda item to speak on, is also new language to put in letter C. Letter D. Participants must be recognized by the preciding officer and will be requested to preface their comments by an announcement of their name, state, and agenda and agenda item they are are aiming to speak upon and the group affiliation if and when appropriate. I had nothing that came in on letter E or F. Anything additional to put on the first page for 10-1? 10-2 on letter G. Use of specific names of district personnel titles and identifiable descriptions in a negative matter is not allowed as it may lead to legal liabilities. Letter H. Participants shall direct all comments to the board and not to staff or other participants. Letter I. Participants shall address only topics on
046the meeting agenda of that particular meeting that night. J, there was no additional language that came in. K. The presiding officer will interrupt, warn or terminate a participant statement when the statements is too lengthy, personally directed, abusive, obscene, irrelevant, or not related to the current agenda item. The rest of the numbers andor letters throughout 10-2, I did not receive any uh new language requests throughout that policy. Mark, can you just go back to I and reread what your proposal is? Participants shall address I'm sorry. Participants shall address only topics on the meeting agenda. Okay. And then you're eliminating within the legitimate jurisdiction of the board. Yes. Okay. When the language came in on the idea of legitimate jurisdiction of the board, their thought was legitimate jurisdiction might be too broad and their aim was to
047speak on the agenda items of that particular meeting that night. Okay. Thank you. So Mark, yes. Can I go back to 10 101? Yes. I like I like what was given to me with uh the um agenda sheet for our eyes only that paragraph. Well, two sentences. Um so that's that's what I would request that we could vote on. Yeah, I got it here. Um and I would also I agree with Dean. I would also like to see that in there. Um, I only had one change to your sentence, Dean, and that is to cross out um, pardon me. Um, community. So, where it says all community requests, just cross out the word community. All requests for an agenda item. Okay. Do you want me to read that language, Dean, or? Yeah, I I just
048took community as citizens. So, um, within the school district, I'm just thinking this, dean, as it would include board members as well. So, all requests rather than just community members. Okay. But Katie, if you look at the second sentence, it says if any board member requests the item to be considered, so it would include us also in your appeal process. Yes. I just want us to also be covered under the appeal process. Like if a board member specifically would request an agenda item and be declined, we are also covered then by that appeal process. You're sense you're a member of the community. So if it's all community requests, it's it's anyone. I mean whether you're a board member or not. I think as is it it it is fine. Thanks for that clarification. Okay, so
049the language that um was discussed and brought as far as dean's thought is all community requests for an agenda item that are not recommended by the district administrator and board president will be shared with all board members. If any board member requests the item to be considered, the full board will determine determine at its next meeting whether to add it to the future agenda. If approved, the item will be placed on a next available board meeting agenda. Excellent. Where are you wanting to put that then within the policy? Um where we where we discussed um if you go back to the original um policy, we have ABC. Yep. that line right after it where it says such requests shall be subject to the recommendation of the district administrator and the board president. Okay. So, put
050it in after that. Is that what you're saying? Pardon? To put it in after that. Is that what you're saying? We could leave that. Well, no. That that defeats the purpose of adding these two sentences. It's because we're adding the ability of the of the board to vote to get something back on the agenda. So, your recommendation is to omit that sentence. Correct. And your language. Okay. Correct. All righty. How will I know what's getting on the agenda? I I think so. It needs to have a flow. I don't care what the flow is, but if somebody says, "Hey, I want this on the agenda to a board member." I I have to know. So, I would appreciate coming to me and I understand what you're asking, Dean, is if I were to deny it,
051I still need to bring it before the full board. But, we need a process to keep our agendas going smoothly. So, I understand. I would hope we could keep that sense if we were to add Mr. Aman's language because all it is is saying Peggy and Donna will have to bring something to the full board if they were not to approve it on the agenda. Well, the way it's written, it looks like we'd have two board meetings as a as a um cushion. It would take that long to get it back on the agenda after being refused. See it says next meeting whether to add it to the future agenda. So if it is then it's approved and then it would be on the next meeting after that. So we have a full two meetings
052before it uh comes up. Hey, could I make a suggestion, Dean? Um, rather than scratching that entire sentence, um, following it, we could just add the words if denied. And then we don't have to take out that entire sentence and then add in your paragraph. Yeah, that can work too. So what you're stating Katie is such request shall be subject to the recommendation of the district administrator and the board but if denied and then proceed with the language that Dean has stated. Correct. So then you would leave that sentence in. You just have to add if denied and then proceed to Dean's language. Yes. Okay. Any other language on that policy? Are we going to want to vote on each of these polies separate tonight or together or how are we thinking? I I think
053for this one specifically we so there was lang there's a lot of language that was added um that's not in here for reference. I mean, do we want to bring this back once again with all of the proposed changes so that people can adequ ad adequately um people on the board can adequately look at it and make a decision based on that. I don't have any problem with that suggestion and I apologize some of this new language just came in and it didn't come in all in time probably to get it fully understood to even go through committee. Um, but I do appreciate any language coming forward on any policy from any other board members. And I don't know if if this part of the meeting if we want to decide whether we want that
054other I'm I'm going to call it dean's language um dean's language added. Is that um I don't I don't want to Can I ask you a question, Peggy? Or so I know this policy has been back and forth like four or five times. Is there is it a too much of a a hassle to try and work through it together as a board tonight so that we can pass it and it doesn't have to go back to committee again? It doesn't have to necessarily go back to committee. I just want the changes that Mark had read in the policy so that we have it in front of us so we know what we're voting on, right? So, it doesn't necessarily have to go back to committee. It just that those things have to be added.
055Okay. I guess I sorry I kind of struggled to keep up a little bit but what I'm kind of rec what I'm recognizing is I know what Dean's language is that he would like to add and then it feels like all the other things deal with speaking on agenda items every so that was the main focus of everything else was correct we're adding language about the spec specific agenda item that you're talking to um do we maybe split it into two policies Please, we could, you know, one on just agenda items and one on public forum. Mhm. Good. 1067.4. Yeah. Um, and Jill, I would I just want to kind of comment on what you said about limiting the topics to the open form topics to agenda items. Um, I do know that I think
056Winchester does do that, but I do know that they're very flexible as to accepting agenda items. like they close they close their town board meetings by asking does anybody have a request for an agenda item? I believe Ashkosh school board does too. So I would maybe entertain that idea if we did add in Dean's like Donna said Dean's proposed appeal process just maybe that would make the community feel more comfortable. I think Ashkosh from from the one or two that I watched and I'm an expert on the way they run their meetings, but I think they have an open forum for people to comment on agenda items and then they have a second part that they comment on or request non and then for non-aggenda items and then one I recently just I happened to
057just watch it stream it back and they had asked at the end of the meeting like at that meeting if there were requests for future agenda items. So I think that's a good way to engage with the community and be transparent as well. Okay. So what are the wishes of the board? I hear you may want uh some language on non-aggenda items as well as agenda items. Um I guess give me some direction as far as breaking the policy up to make an additional policy specific to each of the areas of agenda items. um as well as public comment being its own policy. Well, I think the future agenda item is addressed in the written request. Okay. Right. That first part where it says agenda item that would be a separate policy and then after
058that last sentence such request shall be subject to recommendation of the district administrator and the board president. But if denied then we add in that language that Dean is requesting. So that's one policy and then the public comment is a second policy with those additional comments that um Okay. Does anyone have any questions? Um I know Donna stated with there was a lot of language um surrounding the agenda idea of items at the the present meeting. Um, you want me to review all those one more time so that you understand the language or what's your thoughts? Are we thinking we're going to split it in half then and divide it into two separate policies? I I believe if we did that, we'd have to have a motion. Correct. I'm just unsure since that wasn't part
059of our agenda if we can do that. Um I feel like we almost have to bring it back with two separate policies to vote on then which is fine because that wasn't an agenda item to split the policy. I know it's been cumbersome trying to get this policy together and understood. We want to make sure that we satisfy the interest and and thoughts on everyone involved uh looking at this from the direction that we were given as far as basically maintaining agenda. I can appreciate that from um WSB, from Ted Netsky, from CISA 6 just to give us a little dialogue on procedures and so on. But I also can um adhere to the feeling and the thought of the board um on on making a another policy. My thought would be to fully understand
060this that we do get the language put in and bring the policy back. Um even if it has to be taken back to committee one more time just to be sure that we're all in agreement and all understand the language. Uh because one or two words in a policy can change it. And to be quite honest with you, when we do see a lot of policies come back, it is specifically because one or two words that may have changed the meaning of the policy. And I'm I'm okay with that. If the rest of the board is, uh, what's your thoughts? I think for my my own personal opinion, I think for clarity sake, we should we should have in front of us what we're going going to discuss or approve. I agree. So Mark, are
061you saying that particular policy because we're not done reviewing, we should um recommend to go back to the policy committee to split into two and get the language as we discussed. So I'm a black and white person. So I guess I would just prefer to see that it it in black and white to make sure it is as we discussed. Yes. And I think to be proper with it as far as board policy, we do want to make sure that we have in front of us specifically what the language is to be read and that we understand it. And it also um before the next board meeting, of course, we'll have a committee meeting and get it back out to you. So if there is additional language changes, please let me know in a a
062fashionable proper time so that uh I don't have as many language changes suggestive as I have here tonight. Um, so I guess uh Donna, I would recommend that you look for a motion for just what Jackie stated then on this policy. Okay. I'll entertain a motion to um return the 0167.3 public comment at board meetings um back to the committee for um clarity. Clarity. Second. Motion by Hansen, second by Aman to um return the policy 0167.3 to the committee for further clarification and that's that's where we'll decide if it's going to be two separate uh policies. Uh there'll be a number of things discussed in the policy committee meeting on that. Dean, it'll be review of the language that I brought for suggestion tonight as well as your language and then just put the two
063policies each of their own on their own with the language as we stated tonight. Okay. Any other questions? Yeah. Um I have a question. So, I know a bunch of this was discussed um two weeks ago and then it was a lot of that language was proposed for policy and it seemed like a bunch of the board was in agreement at that time and then somehow it came back tonight without that. So, I just I just would hate to see it go back and forth and back and forth again. So, I'm hesitant to feel comfortable sending it back. If I could Sorry, Donna. Go ahead. No, go ahead. Years back, um, we put our committees together as we have, we split the board up with membership amongst our committees and we were looking for the
064committees to do a little bit of the leg work so that when it came to policies or finance or HR, our committees did a little bit of the the study and the work behind the scenes with some of the thoughts and recommendations of our administrator and then we bring them to the board. Um, we appreciate if we could leave our committee meetings with a consensus. In a board committee meeting, there is never a vote taken place. There is never a vote of recommendation. We are a seven member board and a seven member board makes the vote on policies. It is a recommendation from committee to bring it to full board vote. And most of our committee meetings whether it's policy or HR or finance there are notes taken if that helps and and also I
065just want to say that in in in that twoe period there's been um some stuff that has come forward to us from WB. They're doing I don't know if you're getting the emails, but they're doing right now a series of um webinars webinars that are that pertain to uh board meetings. So when they you know they specifically address the public comment of the agenda. Um since then we also had the workshop which is where some of that came from also. So so it's very dynamic. It's not a it's not a um um it doesn't stay undetermined, you know, during that twoe period. There are things that come forward that may influence our recommendation or our discussion or that kind of thing. So, okay. Thank you. Okay. You got the motion? Yep. Motion by Yep. So
066roll call please. Stellner I. Veric I. Calartz I. Aman I. Kundy. I Hansen I. Okay. Our next policy policy 5411 third grade promotion and retention at risk students. In 2023, Wisconsin enacted Act 20 to strengthen early literacy efforts. As part of this law, school districts must implement a policy for promoting students from third to fourth grade. Following the model provided by the department of public instruction, Niola with legal guidance has developed a policy in compliance with act 20 and the DPI model. While districts are required to adopt this policy by July 2025, enforcement can be delayed until September 1st, 2027. When we brought this policy for approval uh a meeting or two back, we had September 1st of 2026 in the policy. What our committee is recommending that we approve the policy as we did
067with the date change of September 1st, 2027. it end? Why? Why? Uh basically because of the fact it gives time for the well-being of the plans for the atrisisk students and from third to fourth grade to be put in place and it it's also understanding of the time period that we have to do that um is until the adoption until September 1st of 2027. And we want to put all of our interventions in place. So, we want to use all of our resources to ensure we're getting those kids to where they need to be without doing it halfway. So, we wanted to wait so we can get all the interventions and do all have all of our efforts um exhausted with that student to see what happens then. Otherwise, we it wouldn't be a full
068term. Yeah. I just note right off the bat on the first page, it looks like there's a typo. It's September 1, 20276. So, that six needs to be removed. There's a dash through it. Is there? Yes. Okay. It's my old eyes can't see that. It's small. I'm sorry. It's only through the six, though. So, it's it's hard. Okay. All right. So, that's the only change that we we brought forth. All righty. Um, policy 2430, administrative guideline, district sponsored clubs and teams. All right. District sponsored clubs and activities 10-8. Any question? And part of the reason why this policy is brought forth is because we really un want to understand the breakdown of clubs um activities u and costs and so on that may occur for transportation and so on among some of these activities groups
069and organizations. Yeah. So the the guideline mark is on 106 and 107. Yeah. So correct me if I'm wrong. We're we're approving the administrative guidelines and not the policy. Correct. Correct. Normally we don't approve admin guidelines, but this one I just wanted to make sure we had your blessing. Um because there's things like transportation costs affiliated with some of these groups that haven't been um they've been using their own transportation which I think is leads for some liability. Um the old guideline you can see talked about clubs and activities. I'll be honest between um the principles and myself trying to keep what group was a club and which was an activity was a nightmare. So we just really wanted to clean it up, give new definitions to the various um clubs and activities u and
070then outline where the extracurricular code may or may not fit for each because I think that's important too. Okay. Any questions on on that at all? Um what fund is that out of? The transportation or or what specifically are you asking for the clubs, district sponsored clubs? That would fall under our extracurricular umbrella. Pardon me. That would fall under extracurricular umbrella. So you can see WA sports are in there. The fishing club's in there. There are things like VEX. There are things um like equestrian team and then there are little groups like a book club. So um and you can see where they fit like the book club. We're not having kids go under the extracurricular code simply because it's a fun little thing. So there's no costs really associated with that. So if you
071read the definitions that kind of outlines um their purpose at the various buildings and whatnot and dean oh sorry a lot of them um have their own fundraising things which go into the student activity portion of the budget they have their own budgets. Yep. When you see the student account checks kind of like kind of like concessions too that that's like its own budget. The concessions is a W club. Um FFA, they have um a fund within the district under student account. If you look on our consent agenda items, one we approve student account checks or student a payments. Mhm. That's what those are. Okay. Mhm. All right. If there isn't any further um then I would we can have the 5411 and 2430. Appreciated. I'll make a motion to approve uh policy 5411 on
072the third grade promotion and retention and 2430 the administrative guideline district sponsored club and teams. I will second. Motion by Hansen, second by Aman to approve 5411 and 2430. Any other questions or discussion by the board? Roll call, please. Veric. I. Cowarts. I. Aman. Hi. Kundi. Eiselner. I. Hansen. I. Um, administrative reports. Uh, those were included in your packet. Um, any additions by the administration? Any questions from the board? I just have a couple things I'd like to add. And I'd like to say thank you to the teacher appreciation week and thank you for the job you do for our district and for all our little ones and our students and we appreciate that. And also I'd like to congratulate and commend the FFA. Saturday night was their banquet. Um an outstanding amount of recognition
073which we feel is just the most awesome thing for our kids and so on in our district here. They do a wonderful program and wonderful uh activities within our district and our community. And so kudos to those. Thank you. Um Peggy, the the art art uh work sale that was done by our special ed department. Is that new this year? I think they I I know they did it last year, too. Yeah, I went last year. Awesome. Well, I think that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Anything else? All right. Uh, board reports. Any communications? Uh, yes. I have one from Susanna Gorski, the elementary school world language teacher. Dear members of our school board, I'd like to say thank you to all of you for the kind words and generous gift of money I received to honor
074my dad's life. My dad has a great was a great man, hardworking and loving. He showed me how to be the person I am today by leading a simple but true life. My family and I will get together in July in Argentina where I will visit his funeral resting place. I am grateful and blessed to work here in such a caring place. So very much. Thank you. Susanna Gorski you committee reports uh human resources and finance. We met on May 2nd to get our monthly update from Monica on budget forecasting and then we did discuss a few other things that we'll be taking up in close session and then we do have another meeting set for June 6th. Okay. U marketing and public relations. I don't believe we've met. Um and policy. Uh yes, in
075policy as we discussed tonight, we will take uh policy 167-3 back to committee. And then I wanted to give an update as well. Um when we had our committee meeting last week, we did discuss a policy that was brought back and that was a policy on education of medication and emergency care. We met with Jen, our school nurse. uh she had just went through some educational points with us and as well we're going to be bringing that back probably just prior to school start or just after school start with some new procedures and her processes that Jen will have in place to support the policy. And so there was a pretty thorough discussion um by our committee on that and the timing of the things that are going on and potentially changing as well as
076some of the language as far as how Jen was interpreting it. It was her recommendation that we wait to see some of the process and procedures that she brings forth. Okay, with that I would entertain a motion to move into executive session. So move second motion by Kundi, second by Verich to move into exe executive session under state statute 19.85 to approve executive session minutes from April 21st and 19.85 85 sub1 subc considering employment promotion compensation or performance evaluation data of any public employee over which the governmental body has jurisdiction or exercises responsibility regarding admin salary and an employee request. The board will move into open session and may take action on items discussed in close session.