DSD April Regular Board Meeting

001Go ahead and call the meeting to order and I'll take a roll call. >> Shrader >> Here. Humpy >> here. >> Canadler >> yes here. >> Robin Angel here. >> Gabe Engel >> here. Compton >> Here rise for the pledge allegiance to the flag and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Notice of meeting per Wisconsin state statute 19.84 to declare me legal meeting. Ryan, was the meeting properly noticed? >> Yes, it was. >> All right. And any changes to the Oh, do that next. Um, all those in I'll take a motion actually. Thank you. >> I'll make a motion. Motion by Jess of the meeting. Second by Michael. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> All right. Now

002we'll do an approval of the agenda. Any changes to the agenda? Ryan, >> there are none. Okay. >> I'll make a motion to approve it. >> Motion by Mike, second by Randall. All those in favor signify by saying >> I. >> Opposed. Right. Routine action items. 2.1 is approval of the minutes of the special board meeting on March 18th, 2026. >> I'll make a motion. >> Motion by Jess. >> Second by Randall. And a roll call, please. >> Shader, >> yes. >> Lazora, yes. Humpy, >> yes. >> Nadler, >> yes. >> Angel, >> yes. Thson, >> yes. >> Point two, approval of voucher and payroll checks. I'll need a motion and a second to approve March payable expenditures and payroll expenditures in the amount of 1,366,34287. >> Make a motion. >> Motion by Randall. Second

003by Mike and roll call. Trader. >> Yes. Woric. >> Yes. Hum. >> Yes. >> Madler. >> Yes. >> Angel. >> Yes. >> Human. >> Yes. >> Ozinski. >> Yes. public acknowledgements and comments. >> And we do have Ian Sullivan. >> All right. It's okay if I stay seated. Of >> course. But I come down here instead of, you know, staying online like I usually do. Um I just really wanted to come down and say thank you about everything with the referendum and everything. Um, it's unfortunate that didn't pass, but you know, wearing many hats, coming down here as a dad, a taxpayer, an employee, and everything. I just I just wanted to say thank you for our school board and, uh, our admin, too, for how much time and effort you guys have put into,

004you know, educating the community, um, really putting information out there, like as a dad fighting for my kid in school. um as an employee fighting for myself and my co-workers and uh as a union co-president really just like giving all the information you possibly could to all of us and I just wanted to say thank you for everything you guys have done >> thank you to go back to being online and helping with that time >> thanks for coming up >> okay so that was the only person for public partic participation. So, we will move on to acknowledgements. >> I'd like to go first. Um, couple from the high school. Um, I'm guessing Gab's going to capture some of this here tonight, but we've had some wonderful things taking place. Um, most recently, I won't

005get into the list as I can talk for a long time as you guys know. Um, but I've got a couple that stand out. Um most recently, um about a week and a half ago, we were notified that Addy Hoyer, who's a senior for us, um has made the top five in the nation for uh FCCLA member of the year. So, she'll stand on a giant stage in front of a lot of people and uh they will announce the top member of the year at that conference, which I believe is in EC and it's in June, I believe. >> Yeah. So, um so that one's coming up. Might be the first part of July. I apologize for the for the dates. Um then most recently we were notified secretively that u our advisor Sarah James

006of FCCLA was also um listed in the top five in the nation which is absolutely incredible. We hosted an assembly in the gym or in the auditorium and surprised her um late last week and it was awesome. Dr. Jill Underly and some members from the DPI were able to be there to help uh make the surprise and give her some flowers and earn Addie a nice big plaque. So, um was absolutely wonderful. It says obviously speaks volumes to what uh Miss James does in the program, getting students to uh perform at the levels that they've been performing at the last several years and then um her getting recognized as well, which is incredible. So, if you see Miss James or Addie or any of our students who are crushing it, um please give them uh

007some praise and some good job pat on their back. They're doing amazing things. So, um the Miss James and Addie has been all over the news. So, it's been on channel 3000, I believe 15 as well. Um they captured it. It's pretty cool stuff for our school and these people. So, that's it. >> Well, that's not it. That's amazing. >> Absolutely incredible. >> Because the numbers that I saw, so Addie was is in the top five out of hundreds of thousands, right? >> 270,000, >> right? And Sarah in the top five among thousands. So those are huge accomplishments. And we see Sarah, she's always here doing something. So that's really Nobody else. >> Yeah. Big kudos for both. Very cool. Miss. Yes. Um, I say these names a lot, but I need to just pause

008on them again and appreciate them. Greg Omen, Katie Dnull. I'm going to add a couple more. Kylie Bingham, and Michelle G. So, this is I would call our intervention team um at the elementary school and now also working more up at the middle school. And um I just want to appreciate the work that they've done, especially our team who who works on the ELA side of testing. As I've told you guys, we have had to move that testing window up. And for our 4K through third grade, we are done with testing for ELA for the year. Fourth grade and middle school will be testing the last week in April and into May. And our math testing will happen in in May. But this team when we get the screeners they really then pull the students

009who we need to do some additional testing the diagnostic testing and I have to say it's like a welloiled machine. They are now down to only about one week of interrupting our schedule which is amazing because our intent was to get them right back into providing interventions for our students. So again I can't thank them enough for the work that they have done and continue to do. Um, another appreciation outside of testing is we had our fine arts night um, Friday, >> April 10th. >> Thanks. The days just blurred together. I can't keep them straight anymore. Um, but I just want to shout out to Hannah Miller who is our art teacher at DEES. Um, she spearheads that and this is our second year of doing that and it was as great as it was

010last year. um she continues to expand and add new details to it. And then also Katie Doc, we did our book fair that night to bring in families as well and she did a great job of getting that organized and I think every teacher who requested um books received some books that they wanted. So that's great to fill our classrooms with books as well. So, lots of amazing things and um as you kind of alluded to, it it takes a lot of time and energy um in the school days and outside of the school days. They're incredibly dedicated people. So, thank you to everything that they do. >> And look so excited to show off their artwork. >> I know. >> And it was an awesome theme of like ocean. Next year it's space. So,

011get ready. It'll be fun. And I was there and what I loved is people didn't leave. They went outside by the food trucks and they hung out in the yard and they just milled about and the kids were having fun and the families were having fun. So it was just really nice to see. It wasn't like you were rushing to get anywhere. Everyone's taking their time milling around. It was a Friday night and the families just hung out. It was it was really fun. It's good night. >> Right. That's right. >> I know for me I wanted to give a shout out to our scene forward team. So Jason Kenol um um Heather, not Heather, um Michelle Lateral and um Danna Conor are really grinding into the the weeds of what is the handbook going

012to look like? What is the contract with the students going to look like? starting to feel the real pressure about the school year starting for them. And so they've done a great job reaching out to this the students um figuring out whether they wanted to be fully in person, whether they're going to go hybrid, whether they're going to go virtual. Um starting to get classroom spaces designed and set up. I know we had our um furniture vendor stop in and so they're really allocating words that grant resources are going to be used and making sure that this place is ready to go between the the three spaces that they have and then we're currently looking at what this space might look like um next year as the number of students continues to grow um and

013wanting to make sure they've got the spaces they need in order to provide the programming that was um designed And so they're excited and just they're seeing it all come to life and you can just tell the excitement is is very real now. Um so want to give a shout out to them because I know they had the open house last Wednesday night and the the board that's a part of that was really excited for the way things were described and the way families felt connected um back to the school. So something to be proud of because it was a good start. Good start. And we are just months away from those doors opening. >> What is What is the number? >> Um I want to say we're at it's in the mid to upper

01450s with five to six open enrolled into the district that were not part of the district. So um >> great numbers then actually compared to the original estimate. great numbers where they're about half virtual. Half were the original virtual hybrid scene forward and the other half are new students to this project-based learning. >> Okay, good. >> Word has gotten out. >> Word has definitely gotten >> good. >> Yep. So, opportunities. So, good investment so far for us and now we just need to make sure we deliver on the programming that we intended to. And does the grant money stay the same though for the whole time we have that initial grant and that covers us for the five years. Correct. >> Correct. Yep. Yep. And so as long as we as long as and what

015I've been told so far is as long in year one we have 50 students on the third Friday count in September, we will get the full 1.1 for the the remaining years. Okay. >> So it's that first year that becomes that flexible whether or not you get full grant or 900,000. >> Okay. So >> good. >> Is that formula only apply to the first year? >> It only applies to the first year. Yes. Yeah. So they the funding amount changes in year one dependent upon the number of students that you have. Then after that everything is the exact same. >> Okay. So if it's 1.1 or 900,000 whatever for year one then that's the amount for years two, three and four. >> First year. Yeah. They change by amount. Uh but if we have the

016if students are no longer interested or we get more students the lot the the amount stays the same um moving forward. So but we have to have we have to have 20 um per year. So right now everything is trajectory that it would be that that way or more. >> Anybody on the board? Ryan, you didn't that you have >> those are the ones I wanted to make sure we could go on and on. Joe Pepper's done some amazing things. The school board's done some amazing things, but we'll save those for >> I I have one. >> Okay. want to follow up on what Elen said about the effort that Ryan put into the referendum, the changes in our in our financial reporting, the amount of data that you were able to pull together to

017get out there to the community. It's unfortunate that the referendum failed, but it isn't for a lack of effort or a lack of information that's available. that the effort you put into that, the hours you put into that, I appreciate and I think the Lord appreciates. >> Thank you. I've surrounded myself with great people. So, that's how this all gets pulled off. Good. So, >> anybody else? I would second what just said it's frustrating to have the same result virtually the same result and yet you know we have to just keep plugging along because we need to need to do that but uh thank you. >> All right with that it's time for Mr. strangle to steal the thunder from Joey. >> Yeah, a lot of this is um state like the state events because

018obviously it's club season right now. So, first we had the Quantis terrific kids at DMS and the top 10 seniors were announced with all of them fighting really hard to be on that list. There was a lot of competition. And then starting out with FCCLA, there were nine golds and four silvers with nine of those people being national qualifiers for FCCLA state. or national qualifiers from FCCLA state with 17 competing. And again, Mrs. James was a top five FCCLA advisor in the nation with Eddie Hoyer being one of the last top five members of the year of FCCLA in the nation. And then switching over to FFA, LMLM, Taylor Durst, and both Nathan and Jenna Johnson all went to state and represented us there. We had well we were going to have nine kids go

019for forensics but that was supposed to be on Friday and obviously that didn't happen. So there's that got rescheduled to be virtual. Um there were we won five gold medals and silver uh seven silvers at state BAC in Edgewood in Madison. Seven went to state for FBA in Green Bay. Five went to state for host in the Dells. and Henry Bart's Finn Burkard Sable and Caleb Crow all went to state skills USA in Madison for welding. Um DHS competition cheer qualified for state for the first time in the program's history. DHS wrestlers Nash Anson, Eli Brockup, Aiden Duran, Khloe Eastman, Maya Markline, Hawin Peterson, Shane Roshan, and Isaac Boner have all been named scholar All-Americans by the National Wrestling Coaches Association. and uh Dodgers Kira Hazer, Myra Bar, and Allison Tyber have earned academic all-state

020honors from the Wisconsin High School's Gymnastics Association. And 11 students representing 18 events have advanced the state solo ensemble on the 25th. So, we've had really good representation at almost all levels of state for all of our clubs. I don't think any club didn't make it to state in some capacity this year. And then the Dodgeville baseball team got a one in a life like once in a lifetime experience by getting to play against Portage in American Family Field in Milwaukee. I heard that was really interesting to play on unlike they've anything they've ever done and we also won that game. So >> the most important part pretty well too. 14 to something or other four or six. >> Yeah. >> Technically 11 to one in five innings but And then >> everyone played that.

021>> And then upcoming is both prom and AP testing as a lot of the classes at least that I'm in have truly set into the test prep for the AP tests. And finally, a shout out from the senior student body. Like uh as seniors, we just wanted to thank the district as we go through this time and continuing to fight for us in and our education through the referendums and it really does mean a lot to us students. Can I ask what the VAC thing is that you guys you said you went to? >> Uh that's the visual arts competition. >> Uh that's yeah the art club stuff. >> I think your name was on a few of those things as being a participant. So congratulations to you and >> uh we're going to miss

022the leadership of your class. year class has uh done a great job representing that >> definitely had some big shoes to fill too last year with last year's class they were really good leaders too but I definitely think that this next year's class has got this too good >> but it'll be nice to see him at home >> well and then it'll be really gone soon >> you're saying may have any questions for me. >> Appreciate your reports, Gabe, over the years. Thank you very much for everything you've done for the student body and reporting to us. >> I'll be showing up over the summer a bit too to get the next class. >> Yeah, because we're going to have we had our elections. So, I think Felix is replacing me. And then I think

023it's Alo Zoric is the next in line after as their soft. >> Yeah. Okay. Good. >> So, yeah. And also the Dodger drop reached out to me and they're now doing something like writing a small little report for that now too to present both ways. >> Nice. >> Okay. Good. >> You've enjoyed the role? >> Yeah, it's been it's been really interesting to see how this stuff works and how behind the scenes some of this stuff is. >> A lot more goes into this than I originally thought. does like I mean as like a board itself it's >> I don't know I never really thought about it before being here. >> I think when we first were thinking about the position we wanted kids to be a little more connected to the board and then

024I think we realized over time it helped everybody kind of understand more of what goes on at the board level. >> Yeah. So >> it's been a really great experience and gotten me interested in at least local politics too. Glad >> you had a good experience. >> Yeah. Awesome. All right, we will move on to committee reports and >> should I go? >> Sure. Okay. I didn't know if you were doing that or if I was to I was uh on board took notes. This is these are the minutes from the curricular co-curricular meeting of April 8th. uh which began at 5:15 p.m. And um one of the items to talk about was the Dodge High School showcasing the CTE courses and opportunities. >> Four videos. Are there more than four right now? Four. >>

025Four videos. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Okay. Currently four videos we have left. >> Yeah. Anyway, uh as a way to promote courses within the uh technical areas uh and we a short discussion of a way to promote these more either through the chamber of commerce or DTV if that's still available. And then we have the administrative team updates. There are at the time of this meeting a week and a half ago, there were um already 100 children signed up for summer school. And I'm guessing that's probably increased by now. Uh, and those offerings will be both uh, classes to boost math and ELA skills as well as enrichment courses. Uh, various testing has begun. They gave us the update about as forward testing over now. >> Just tested our last third graders today. >> Okay.

026So, so yes. >> All right. So, and uh and are the AC20 assessments, >> those are all wrapped up as well. It is now just it'll be our math benchmarking. >> Okay. >> And middle school ELA, >> right? And is all the screening for the behavioral emotional assessment. >> We'll do one more round this spring toward the end of the year. >> So, things change quickly there because people are busy doing those tasks. And tomorrow night is uh is it actually called multicultural night or international night? >> Multicultural night family. Yep. >> From I think 5:30 to 7. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. My wife's involved with some of that stuff and uh anyway, we've all been invited to come at the elementary school. uh at the middle school. Uh they work begun working on

027the master schedule in the hopes of getting it prepared sooner this year than last. Uh track and field was uh up and running uh at the high school. many things that were talked about, but um one of them was the outreach into the community by students, hoping and one one of the hopes is more youth apprentichip opportunities would arise from kids getting out into uh the community. Um there were some uh internet outages during the act makeup day, but that's been resolved, taken care of. Uh, and we already had the update on seeing forward charter school. That's more updated than what I would have. So, I'll just leave that one out. Um, there's some updates on the community dashboard, the website on the focus on learnings. Any they can tune in to those if they

028want. And the meeting may have set one of the records for closing at 602 47 minutes. good leadership on that. >> Well, yeah, I'm sure it had a lot to do with me not being there in person. >> All right. Any questions about that? >> I'll um speak about policy. We had one agenda item on our policy meeting and actually it's an an agenda item here tonight right after this meeting report. So, I'll briefly go over it now, but then there'll be some discussion about it later. Basically, the state has passed a law that every school district must have a cell phone or electronic device policy in place by next school year. And the state law says no electronic devices during school hours, but it does leave some discretion up to the school district um

029about any exceptions that might be put in place. And so we did review a sample was policy around um limiting electronic devices during our school hours. And so the the long and short of it is that the policy will state that there are no electronic devices during school hours, but then our handbook will cover any exceptions that we choose to make. Um so that will basically be covered on a school level handbook or sorry administrative approval will be required for those exceptions to be in place and they will be preapproved exceptions not like a day of exception. Um, and so we talked about things like how do smartwatches fit into that and how do ear pods fit onto that? And so, um, we can talk about that a little bit more in the cell phone

030policy agenda item which is next. But it's a pretty straightforward simple policy that's pretty clear. Um, and I think it'll be pretty easy to follow. Our elementary school currently follows this already and our middle school does as well. It's really at the high school level that we'll be seeing some of the bigger changes next school year. Um, and I think each year that'll just get easier as the students who are used to it kind of move up into those higher grade levels. So, >> that's all for policy. Any questions? >> All right. Okay. Just looking up there was fine. Okay. So, building and grounds. Uh, we had >> you would find it. >> Yep. That's all right. So, um, we had, uh, some discussion about two main items in the district right here that, uh,

031a floor scrubber at the high school. It's 13 years old and it's beyond its life expectancy does need some repair. We had, um, some discussion about best options, purchasing new, uh, buying a used one or just fixing it. Unfortunately, we did decide given our current financial situation that we're going to repair it. The repair still is quite expensive at about $1,000. Brett Godfrey was going to look into that and try and find us the best deal that he could. So, um, he also will be, uh, doing something with the shop building. There was some filler insulation that was blown out in the recent weather that we've had and he'll be able to repair that and that was not that expensive to go ahead and do. Um, Ryan also filled us in that new software needs

032to be purchased to run the security cameras at the middle school. Um, this is a safety and security issue. So, we know it's important to go ahead and act on that. And I believe it is an action item later on to have us purchase that software. Just a little bit under $15,000 I think is what the quote said. Um, >> give an update to that. It is actually the server, not just the software. So, it's a server that needs to So, I got the quote in hands to look at it. communication between people talking and quote it is a server >> so software and server >> um we also talked about HSR will present its finding to us in May um they're going to present the district with a facility assessment guide that will include

033opinions of the potential of reducing uh three school buildings down to two buildings in use the charter school potential daycare building space and this presentation is done at no cost of the district. And then another item that uh took up some discussion was the solar energy project that we're looking at. Um the district has received nations about $21,700. Um it was also donated a slightly used 30 panel system that was installed for the previous owners in 2018. So a lot of use left on those. Um Ryan is going to be gathering or has put together an RFP to be sent out and I believe he had the deadline. Was it um at like beginning part of May was >> that tomorrow morning I'd get the RFPs sent out to vendors that we know have been

034a part of different bids that we've done and we'll make it available. Um and then I gave them it' be a two week and a day if I get it out tomorrow. so then they can get them turned in and then we can discuss from there. Um I I think we'll want to put in a special board meeting in the first part of May if not the first part and the second just knowing there's going to be hirings, there's going to be um compensation models uh in um health insurance. So we've got some things that we need to move on and make sure we have plenty of time to process all of that stuff. So that will be we can open those and then decide from there how do how do they look but tomorrow

035morning the RFPs will go out. >> Yeah that's outstanding and it's just again another testament to our community that you know over 20 people uh volunteered and gave money and other instruments to make this project possible at no cost to the district. It's uh speaks highly of our district. So and that's all I have for Billy Crumbs. Any questions for Laura? >> Okay. Nope. >> Finance >> same night. Um current activity that we discussed. We reviewed the bills as usual. There was some discussion with a few of them. Nothing major going on. We did discuss the charges that that we pay to the WIAA for hosting the section or the regionals and uh some of that cost we know is offset gate concessions Ryan was going to provide us some more info on that >>

036for the offset cost we'll save what's that >> we'll save that for end of the year report once we know kind of where everything has come in so not ready for that yet >> okay um and then we reviewed the budget budget reports and so we went through the current budget standing line by line. Overall, we're slightly under budget right now. A lot of that's due to not backfilling some of the positions and just watching costs and reducing wherever we can. Uh we also had some discussion on the line items that are over budget right now on how we address that in next year's budget. And going through that, there was also a question on the debt uh retirement line item. Is that it seemed to be that we thought it's a money in money

037out, but it shows that we're over budget on that. >> Yep. And I update for that. Um so we do have our copier contract is under there. So that lease is a part of that information. Uh however, we also know and then it's that and then it is also the interest on our short-term borrowing but we also found that there are some the day-to-day copier costs were also being coded under there. So we will be doing a journal entry which is common that we will now need to move those to the 300 level. So that account actually will gain some revenue, gain some um back in it, but 300 levels is going to drop because we need to move um some of the copier expenses into there. So we're just we're cleaning up that um

038budgeting information. Okay, >> good. So expect that to be updated. And then I know there was a question about um the um referendum debt, the capital debt that's out of fund 39 is where that is coded to. So different report where I can show you guys that that next month but that is cash in cash out type deal. So fund 39 houses that and still looking at fund 38 on what do we have available um for any capital related projects. I know that topic was brought up about could we use a a different account to pay for some capital related components and I'll I'll have an update on that in May. That be fund 46. >> 46. That's what we used on the elementary school. Fund 46. >> Okay. All right. Thanks for the update.

039>> Um, we then we moved on. We discussed the items in the short range planning list that Laura talked about, the B scrubber and the camera system, and agreed those should move forward to the board meeting tonight as well. Uh then we reviewed and discussed the Dodger Care and general school fees for next year and agreed that that the Dodger Care fees should be should go up and we'll be looking at that later as an action item. Um and for the current school fees, some questions arose around the athletic fees and the offset of those costs. um how much we know that those programs cost a lot especially like football and that the the cost to run the programs this high. We didn't know how much is offset by the fees, how much is offset

040by donations that the programs themselves, the kids and parents apply in that. So you were going to get some more info on that. Is that going to be an indiv? >> That will be June at the earliest. Yep. So, gota let >> the guy who's a part of that have some time to get through the end of the school year. >> No problem. >> I'll keep I'll keep the >> All right. So, those were the current activities, our planning activity. We did talk about operational referendum, discussed a little bit on the results and and talked some about how to approach the next ask in November. Um, we know that we need to pass a referendum at some point and the state funding formula needs to change in order for us to continue to provide a

041quality education. And so, we'll be moving forward with that after our shortened discussion. A few topics came up around maybe doing a community survey and other things, but we decided it was best for each of the board members kind of put down our thoughts of what we believe happened and how we think we should approach the next ask and steps that we might take. So, we're all going to pull that information together individually and send that to Ryan by May 1 for him to compile for planning discussions as we move forward through the summer. And then we did a quick review of the finance information on the community dashboard with a reminder. Again, if there's anything else we can think of to put out there, we'll bring it to Ryan. Any questions? >> Yeah, I

042guess just one other topic and that was the uh early college credit. I don't know if they've had time to kind of look into that contribution of the 25% by students. Are we gonna a discussion? We do have options with that um where we can charge and I think it'll be a good discussion for us to bring back to the next finance committee meeting about what do we want to do. Uh we know there wasn't language that locked in families to say they were fully aware of that and so that is our concern about do we want to put that into place this year or wait until next year to do so. So plan is to add that to our finance committee meeting. Honestly, I can come up curriculum and finance um next month. >>

043Any other questions? Oh, and along with that discussion, was it because of the Chromebooks? We had some discussion in that during the finance as well with the purchase of the for the fifth and ninth graders and then just about usage and other ideas. Wasn't helping out to you, Jessica, because I think you could probably summarize it better than me. >> Yeah. Well, um there's a need to replace Chromebooks for the fifth and nth grade. So that was brought up during >> during the finance portion of it and then it um a little bit morphed into how much do we use the Chromebooks at the different grade levels. So there was an ask to just compile that information for a future discussion on Chromebookies. >> We're working on that as well. >> Yeah. And I don't

044know whether that is a topic that the May curriculum committee meeting would be too soon for. I know there's a gentleman in the community who I think is eager to be present and ask some questions. Um so we should be good to him. If if we can't do it on the schedule in May, then we should inform that gentleman >> about a delay in terms of uh kind of how much Chromebook use there is at the different grades. And I know compiling it might be u you know a complicated thing getting all the teachers to submit their information. So I think that would be the challenge right now is do you want us to have all of that information compiled so we can assess all of this or do you want to do it in

045pieces? Um, yeah, >> I think we could probably begin the conversation a little bit at the May meeting without actual the data, talk about some of the research that's been presented and give uh just the time to discuss the information that's been presented to us. That would be a good good starting spot. Yeah, it would be uh useful if we knew how much they were being used at the different levels, >> but if it can't be done, then it would just be a a conversation that would be extended because it goes beyond just the decision to purchase new Chromebooks for fifth and nth grade. about you know the the curriculum use of uh Chromebooks in general and how much they are used uh in our in our district at what levels etc. So >> but

046in this instance on the fifth and ninth grade replacement there's a time period where we need to lock in to get the pricing that's been offered correct. So we don't have a lot of time like we wouldn't really have time to maybe stop that process >> but the future conversation about what do we believe? >> Yeah. The bigger question is how we actually use them. >> Right. Right. And that might actually be a really nice topic for us in retreat. So when we talk about that, that might be a really good time for us to really talk through how we believe we >> but you I think uh it's incumbent upon the whole everybody involved in the district for there to be kind of some I'm not saying policy but a sense of leadership about

047the expectation of how we use them and how much we use them and um you know to some extent we're still recovering from COVID in terms of the use of them, but we're five years out of that and so we should be def redefining perhaps >> a lot of things have been learned since that experience and so it's good for us to analyze that. >> Um >> I'll be hardressed to get us that data by the first week in May. So, I think it's I think it's fair for us to say we won't be ready for the first week in May, but it's absolutely a priority and for us to make a decision based on what and how often these devices are being used and to set parameters about how they will be used moving

048forward because I think that has been >> some things that we've talked about at the administrative level is you know how are these devices being used and what level of securities can we put in place to ensure they continue to be used appropriately. So, >> okay, that sounds good. >> It will be on the agenda at least someformational stuff in May and as a prelude to some future discussions as well. cell phone policy. >> Yeah, cell phone policy. >> Yeah. So, next agenda item. So, as a board, we did review the WASBY cell phone policy, which actually covers more than just cell phones. It's actually all electronic devices. Um, so that would be I mean we the policy itself doesn't list specific devices because there's just such a wide range and once you start listing

049them it gets can get a little muddy like well didn't specifically list that one. Is that one okay? So actually the policy doesn't list that at all. It just says electronic devices are prohibited during the school hours um in all school buildings unless there are exceptions made in the handbook for education related purposes that are pre-approved by the administration is basically the long and short of it. And it covers not only the school day in the building but also school um events that are considered part of the school day if the kids leave the grounds. So, um I think to keep it very clean, we seem to be pretty on board with having a pretty strict policy saying that there are no electronic devices allowed during the school day. Um and again, just reiterating that

050in the handbook there might be some exceptions, but those by and far will be very limited um to specific educational purposes. >> So, our suggestion we go with the WASBY policy. The WY policy seemed really clean to me and I think everybody at that point had agreed. I have since read it a couple times and it no questions came up for me personally but >> question. All right. >> So when I was reading through it, you know, on the very first page, it kind of goes through just electronic devices and school settings and then it's on the second one when it talks about during all instructional time. So before we get to the instructional time part, it does refer to, you know, when students are attending school, participating in any school sponsored activity or otherwise

051subject to uh supervisory authority of the district officials and school staff students. And it's mentioned that a couple of times too, you know, at any district sponsored or district supervised activity. And because that part is talked before we get to the all instruction on the first page, what does that include? So because at this point it hasn't referred to during instructional time. So, um, because I'm looking at that, I'm like, "All right, so what about, you know, at athletic events in the evening and what about when like when Key Club goes to decon?" And, and they did have stuff in there about trips and stuff like that, but um, >> I thought it was for me, I guess it was just a little bit too vague to school. And, and if it's fine to have

052that vagueness here in the policy and then it gets tightened up in the handbook, that's fine. But I just had what counts as a district sponsored event, dances, athletic events, club trips, stuff like that. >> And I think that that maybe goes to the level of being addressed in the handbooks >> because in the handbook then you can be more specific about what those expectations. >> Yeah, I had circled letter G under number two. I don't know what page it's on, >> but that's where it says, "Refer to the student handbook and resource guides for greater clarity on when in quote instructional time is defined in each building." So, I think that's where it would get more clarification. >> And like what about the part F above that? Could our handbook then supersede that where

053it says and F the portions of a trip away from school grounds that involve instructional SLarning activities? So, if you think like the swivel event that they have at Southwest Tech or something like that, I don't know. >> Are you talking like about a bus ride to and from an event? >> It says the portions of a trip away from school grounds. So, again, um, so the question is, so that's right above, you know, where you said reference G part F right up above that is referencing that. So the policy here as this is written would say you can't use it for anything that's any of those >> the yes it would be that does the instructor who's in charge of that get granted permission from said administrator hey in advance this is an event

054that we want to make an exception for these reasons can this event be approved so the board is saying we're saying no to all of these things and then allowing the flexibility to come back at the building administrative level which is where the the handbook may say no we're not going to it needs to be an approved form that comes in that says hey what tell me why it's going to be an instructional event why you need these devices and then it would put the pressure on the building administrator that you've got to make that judgment decision there. So this here is saying as a board we're saying no unless administratively there is a reason why you're going to allow this to occur. Typically uh I guess as as Joey and Ryan both um typically

055in this case would the language of say the high school handbook because we're it's the biggest issue for the high school would that be created by the two of you? Would the leadership team be part of crafting that language? How would that evolve? >> Well, we've already kicked it around many times. Um, a little bit with our leadership team, but primarily with um um Ellen Cbrook, our Dina students, myself, and then Annette Anderson in the office just is helping with the handbooks, and we do an editable copy for the next year. So, um, we've met several times and kicked around different scenarios. Um, little things like, uh, powered off versus silent. um how we would administratively um handle that. Um thinking of that swiftl um event scenario you just brought up uh makes my heart

056race a little bit. Um you know um who's who's going to enforce that on that trip and who's really going to pick that battle? Are you really going to take the phone? Are we really going to call mom and dad to come get it? Which phone are they going to give us? Um those are things that we the real things that we get you guys. Um we've had we've had kids with three phones this year. um dead phone one, dead phone two or a live phone two that is mom and dad knows about and it's got life 360 on it and then phone number one that is their primary social media. So um we get played all the time um high school level we just we just learned about um smart glasses um that have

057a heads up display um have a microphone and a speaker um embedded into them. So this world is changing all the time. Um we get into the uh two-way communi two-way communication devices. So if you have um plugged into your your schoolisssued Chromebook um uh whatever headphones that you can't talk to, well some you can. So some you can ask questions and send it right back through. Um so we've kicked around. What does that actually look like? What does that mean? Um simple powered off or silenced. Um, we could go through a thousand scenarios with this thing. Um, schools that I've seen that have rolled out this to a pretty extreme um, extent would be Richland Center already. Um, Barnavald has already uh, pushed through. I believe they started it in December of this year.

058Um, pushing pretty hard to take in phones away. The high school level, it's the consequences. It's the STEP program that is working. Um, and then having school board, community, parents, um, teachers is the biggest one to make sure that they're on board so it's consistent. So you don't have the fun room, the the teacher that doesn't care, the teacher that looks the other way. Um, it's just be as consistent as possible for this thing to actually work. Um, I think the key is that instructional um, time period. Um, some of the schools that have done this already are are challenged with passing period and then especially passing period to lunch if you allow them at lunchtime or at your locker bay. Um, well, kids are carrying them um all the time. So, we can tell

059them not to and then it's phone one, phone two, phone three plus. Um so please take that into consideration on what kind of um energy and response we're going to put on all of these trips that we that we have going on. Um the extracurricular activities I feel like that would be extremely extreme. Um, I think we need to focus on the the classroom, the instructional periods that, you know, bellto bell, no cell, whatever you want to call it. And these kids will find a way to find the gray area no matter what we put down on paper. They will study this thing and they will argue it. And believe me, this will be an administrative nightmare for those that handle it, especially at the secondary level, um, high school. >> Have you read this

060policy, Joey? I've not read this word for >> I'd be curious just what your take is. I mean I mean you've read it but numerous times. >> Do you feel that this covers everything? >> I would >> and does it gives us does it give us the flexibility we need? >> It's us what we need. >> It's the hard part becomes is the imple the how is it applied and where do we do we allow any gray area? And I think that's been the piece that I've heard pretty consistent from your guys is like, well, do we just eliminate the gray and really be is like, no, we don't want the cell phones to be out of that locker area or even in the building. And I've heard this taking that Richland Center approach to

061this. Um, so I mean, >> how was that work for them? >> I haven't been in conversations. We haven't had a principal meeting since December that we were all able to get there. So, um that first part, first quarter of the school year, um hard at first, but when the parents have to come get him or the kid is on strike three and they have a one game suspension from a extracurricular, it means something. >> Yeah. >> Versus, I'll just take it for the day or the two. Um I know schools that are in this, those two in particular, um it doesn't work when the kid has to turn the phone in in the morning every day because you're getting phone two, phone three. >> Um you just it just doesn't work. And then it's

062an administrative nightmare trying to keep track of, oh, did you get Mike's phone today? Which one is that? You know, you get any any given day in the high school right now, there's five, six phones on the on the desk um waiting to be picked up at the end of the day. So, um, >> and like just, uh, talking with Shannon Baxter who's at Richland Center, she said it is it works phenomenally well. She said the first month of school was rough, especially the first week, the students were really grumbling. Um but she said they policed it heavily during that first month. Not only they had administrators out during passing time, during hallway time or during class time and teachers were expected to give up their prep three times during that first month to go

063and walk the hallways. When students were caught with the phone, they were walked down to the office where it was taken for the day. And there was no first offense, second offense. It was parents coming to pick up the phone that day. There was no no counting on that. And she said after the first month it really settled down and kids do keep them in their locker or in their vehicle and they don't have them on them. So she said and they've noticed a decrease in the amount of bullying or harassment or that during the school day with the digital part of it. She says it's just been it's been great has been her comment. So >> I want to say there was another teacher from Richland Center that recently that's we'd heard positive feedback.

064The initial part was heavy hard on on the admin side of trying to manage all of that. Um but from recent that would be the piece that we've heard from Richland Center. >> Shannon also said no cell phones, no smartwatches. Those were to be put away. And as far as the earbuds, um all students could have earbuds, but they had to be corded and they could only use it with their Chromebook. So there was no Bluetooth technology or stuff like that. So, um, as long as it was corded, it was fine. >> Did she talk at all about how they handle the after school events? >> Um, that I think for theirs, it's a wait for the day. So, it is just those physical hours for the school day and then afterwards that would be

065not I'm guessing, but I can find out and ask for her. So, >> we can find that out. I have heard the same is it really has been in the the instructional component of the day once you leave for that event now you can take that with you >> you're outside the day >> would that work well for you >> Gabe I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this I won't be here next year but just from the student perspectives >> there going to be a a cell phone total freedom >> on your Oh, no. >> Mom or dad even telling you to put them away. >> Yeah. It's interesting cuz I don't know. Just thinking about some of the just things about it and yeah, again ways that kids will try to get around

066it. mainly thinking about that too because yeah, I really want to read that honestly because I'm wondering how in-depth that goes and like I I wonder how long it'll take kids to try and find gray areas which it will be pretty much instant but I wonder how long it'll actually take on that like >> and then have to be closed because yeah definitely anticipate some backlash from the kids like the students. I mean, yeah. Yeah, that's not a question. They're not going to >> enjoy that, at least for Yeah. the first month or so. >> Yep. And Gabe, you're absolutely right. Shannon said that first week of school was rough with the students, but they did start prepping the families like in July and August saying there's going to be this new cell phone policy.

067They're not wavering on it. This it was. So, there was a lot of, you know, work done during the summer to kind of alert them and have them start wrapping their minds around it. So, >> that is a law. Yeah, that's the >> district is every district of the law is right behind it. So >> I mean yeah I mean you're gonna have like the two like separate bits of students like you'll have the ones that are just fine with it because you know they don't really use the phones anyway and then you'll have the ones that really fight against it because they're the ones using their phones and >> yeah it's interesting. We have a list of exceptions or >> Yeah. >> Um which the list of exceptions might just give them ideas of

068what to do, but I would be interested from Richland Center and other places that have banned them entirely, what they've run into with people wanting exceptions and what kind of things they're talking about. So >> yeah, I would say I would think you don't want to list the exceptions. You want it to be a case by case as a for a discussion with the principal. >> Don't give them any ideas because they will come and talk you through a letter. >> I'd say that one of the biggest complaints that you guys might get is a lot of kids use their phones for music during like work time. So, one of the almost preemptive things that you could do is I most students use Spotify and so I know that I know it's blocked on Chromebooks,

069but that might be something that if that's unblocked the I I don't know what the whole policy is behind that, but that being unblocked would really negate most of the reasons for having a phone on your person to begin with because >> I mean, if I'm using Spotify to listen to music and I just go on my Chromebook to do it. Why would I even need my phone? So, >> school running in the buildings. I'm sure that would go over well. Put on some local radio. >> That's what Mr. Bradley does actually. >> Put on the radio. It's under >> well I I think as already has been discussed once policies approved once the language of the handbook is pretty much zeroed in on to then be very um uh forward about alerting families at

070least by the middle of summer. >> We can probably get this done in May so that they know before the end of summer so they have all summer to freak out about it. Yeah. But at least they know what the policy is going into the next school year. >> That would be the goal is if we can get out in front of this in May, that gives a team time to create the videos, create theformationals, educate the community about, >> you know, this is who we are. This is what we're doing next year. We believe that these devices are a distraction to the learning that needs to occur. >> Well, we don't always have to say we though because this is coming from the state. We're following state protocol. >> Correct. And we we believe

071that we are going to follow this to the tea. These are this is what we're going to do and go with that. As soon as we tell the kids, they're all going to know within 10 minutes. Every every family will know. >> You will tell them too much. >> They know tonight. >> Yeah. Already tell >> we planted that seed. And so it is the it's the now it is the follow through on okay what what level of exceptions are we going to allow? And I think that has been the the piece I've heard over and over as we've talked about it is this really not wanting to see many exceptions, really wanting us to tighten it down. And so that would be the piece that I think okay, we've got to go back administratively,

072leadership team wise, staff, this is the this is the direction we're leaning is that we want to crack down that this these devices aren't going to be allowed. >> So what does that mean? Yeah, I was going to ask just out of sheer curiosity. So, this would be like it's in your locker the entire day besides lunch or even during lunch. >> Not even during lunch. >> Okay. So, just about >> So, you have to sit at a table and talk to each other. >> Yeah. >> Whole new world, isn't it? >> Yeah, a little bit. >> I'm too different. Honestly, I don't use my phone at all. Yeah, but they'll be sophomores and you know, it's that group of kids, freshman up till the juniors. I mean, because I eighth graders have been prepped

073for this. They know there's a law out there and that this is coming. And so, I think they're ready for it. They know it's happening. And again, it's pretty well controlled at the middle school, the elementary school. That's how they're trained. So, it will get so much easier every year. >> Every year will get easier. Yeah, I I think if we also stress like please lock your lockers that might help too. I mean you put that condemnation on that >> and I will tell you I think that's where the frustration will come in is the pra the bad practice that doesn't that is currently it's not existing kids don't do that and so there's a lot of training and it usually happens through error the number of okay something was taken damaged and so it's

074like okay the push back and so I think that's the the challenge the reality that we see is until this becomes the norm that first month is going to be very busy. And I think that's that's where I would tell to you guys is >> in the pinches that I that I can say we see and feel, yeah, we're going to have to figure out, okay, how are we going to manage this? What additional resources might we need just first month to make sure this goes well. And staff, we're going to need all we're need all hands on deck because we're changing culture in a building. And that's one of the hardest things to change. >> The better. I would be it will be, >> you know, I don't know if this is the time

075to discuss it, but I would be fine with just doing the 8 to 3:30 or whatever those hours are and just forget about the outside of the school day activities, field trips, whatever. I just think that would be really hard to manage. And there's some amount of freedom when you join a club or a sport or something that I think comes with that responsibility of doing those things. And I think there's less distraction involved um in those activities anyway. >> And from a parents perspective, I just think about my on a bus traveling somewhere. I mean, I think that's >> there's nowhere to have them away anyway. >> They leave them on the bus in their backpack. >> So it just seems like a lot. >> So >> yeah. So I think just if we

076focus our policy specifically on >> Yeah. the school day bell the bell. So the entire modified at all Jessica at all or >> I don't know that it um >> be in the handbook. >> In the handbook. >> Yeah. >> In the building during the school bells. >> I guess I'd have to >> I believe that I believe that we can outline that. >> Yeah. >> This policy gives us the restrictions. It tightens everything up. The handbooks would allow for the loose um >> big enough to future devices. Let me show it. >> We're not We're not voting on it tonight. >> We're not voting on it tonight. So, >> give us a month to review it a little bit longer. >> Bring it up in committee and then vote on it next month. >>

077Yes. >> Yep. >> Yeah. It's Dude, >> we emphasize it's no different than putting your seat belt on. It's a lot. >> And we think about exceptions to the film. I mean, you list things. I I don't know that you will have many, but there might be something with from a healthcare standpoint. >> Those are in the mayor. So, it is one of those like and I think we navigate those case by case. >> I'll say I don't know that I'd leave those in the policy, but I I think we should have something that you know if you think you need an exception to this, then you have to see an administrator or whatever. >> We have a process for that already in a tracking system. >> So, we would follow those pretty easily. Okay.

078And those four exceptions are from the state law, aren't they? >> I thought if I had seen that. >> Yes, it's right there. The literally star, right? But that's, you know, >> direct educational purpose, disability, medical, >> emergencies, and threats. So, here just anticipate this because this is we've already been hit with. Um, my kid will have their phone on them because if a school shooting occurs, they need to be able to get a hold of me immediately. So that will be the No, they won't. It's against school policy. So no, it's not going to happen. Um I would be interested to know, okay, if a student, you don't know whether those cell phones in my sport coat right now, we're not searching those things. Um it could be very plausible that they have it

079in their pocket and we can't see it. As soon as we start getting to start searching things, I'm saying, "Okay, guys, now we're now we're opening ourselves up. There is this component of we can't see it there. It's not overpromoting, but we're not out searching for cell phones on you, but we also know when a cell phone is out, it's out. And now, no exceptions. We're taking care of this." um family member if you're if you need to attach that cell phone to you for some reason. I'm not out there searching for that. But the reality is the policy is the law is the law. You you better not have it out. You better not get caught not wearing your seatelt because you're potentially going to get a ticket. >> Okay. So to be continued

080and >> the next >> we made we went through bounce through two and so this is making sure you have the updated version or of the policies that we have >> to 4.4 which is the 2627 health insurance and compensation stuff. >> So just as a reminder we're not taking action on this. This just came hot off the press today. Um, we got updated numbers Friday evening. Um, Ryan shared with me and so I'm going to bring the experts up so they can kind of give an overview of where we're at. >> Here unless you want to be up in there. >> No, >> you don't want to meet the stars. >> Sure. It'd be okay. I think many years >> conversation, not a presentation. >> And so Ryan is with M3. Um, and then

081name is who we >> breathe. Um, she's with the consortium. Um, >> I'm with M3. >> M3 as well, but she works with the consortium. So, Ryan spends most of his time working directly with our team here. Um, and so they're going to give an update as to kind of where we at information that they have to share. I do have it attached, but I think each of you has it in your um in front of you currently. When you say the consortium, is it kind of the what we would call the CISA consortium? >> CISA. >> Okay. Right. >> So, there's to to Ryan's point, there's three documents that we handed out. Um, first one looks like the second one that they have, but the first one really what we thought we would do

082tonight. Bri and I um some of you probably remember me from last year. I I work closely with Ryan and Michelle with the district and obviously I'm your broker and Bri and I partner at M3. So we spend I would say 99% of our time in the public education and we do have some counties and some cities. So that's what we do. Um probably represent over 70 school districts. Um and so I brought Bri along so she can talk a little bit about the CED 3 co-op um historically and then where it's been in terms of renewals. And the reason why is because it's been a strategy all along to try to get into that C33 co-op. Excuse me. there is today 15 school districts in there and when we go over briefly the historical

083increases you can see why it's attractive right and I think we talked a little bit about that last year but specifically that this first document here this is the school district's re historical renewal uh renewals with dean um the district has been with dean for quite some time and if you recall last year um our medical loss ratio we talked a lot about that last year it's been for for many years over a hundred meaning Dean pays more out than they take in um from the district which leaves leads us to higher increases right the great news is we've really turned the corner there so this year we have an 86% medical loss ratio so great job right with some changes there's been retirements there's all kinds of things but wellness initiatives etc so um

084wonderful um we were able to evaluate the cease to 3 co-op and and we'll go through this on this sheet here in terms of the options that are available. I won't spend any more time on the district level. I'll spend time on the options that are in front of you all and then I'll I'll turn it over to Breeders to talk a little bit about CISA 3. So Dean came out with an 8.9% increase and for context um their trend is 8.6 right now. Um knowing that the target loss ratio for them is about 92, meaning that if you you're running at 92%, you're most likely going to receive an 8.6% increase. So we were really excited that we had an 8.6% 6% increase, but looking at the 86% MLR, medical loss ratio, we said

085this might be the year to re-evaluate the CIS3 co-op. And I'll let Bri explain how that evaluation takes place. And so there are some options at the bottom of the sheet here to enter the CS3 co-op. But what I did um with Ryan's permission is went back to Dean on Thursday and received word that they'll give us 2% rate relief for the renewal. So starting at 8.9, we are now at 6.9, which is incredible. They not only um brought it down by 2%, they offered a 9.9% not to exceed for next year. So at least we know where we are today if we renew with dean and where we could be worst case scenario next year. >> Any questions about the dean renewal? Um any market related question? We're happy to answer any of them.

086That's a lot of information. >> Would would Dean have done that? Is the CISA co-op uh Dean connected? >> It's with courts. >> Okay. So is that why Dean is doing this to kind of keep us aboard >> potentially? Yes. >> Good question. >> So when you have that 6.9 increase, is that with the the current deductibles that our employees are experiencing or would those deductibles change? >> Great question. So last year, if you recall, we moved to a $3,300 embedded HSA or highqualif or qualified high deductible. That is the IRS minimum. last year 3,300 to have that embedded deductible. That increases every year. So you'll see this year it's 3,400. That isn't a decision that M3 made or the district made. It's it's a forced decision if you want to stay on that embedded

087deductible, which you do, right? That was the part of the strategy all along. So it was moved to 3,400 based on the IRS's updated numbers, minimum requirements. >> Question. So, >> would you like me to walk just talk about the co-op because maybe that would help and then we can launch into the options. I don't mean to interrupt. We do this all day together though. >> Mean to interrupt, but >> that's okay. >> Thank you for having me. Um, as Ryan said, you know, we spend a lot of time in this area. I've been at M3 for 22 years. I've had the pleasure of working with you uh before and in the past. Uh, so very familiar with Dodgeville and I obviously stay in touch because I am the broker for the season 3 co-op.

088We started that back in 2009 preact 10. Uh, it was a really tough time. We didn't have a lot of participation at that point, but it is the first co-op that we ever established. Now we have about 11 across the state. Um, so we have a couple other ones that we work on. Uh but we're very proud of the CISA 3 co-op because of how well it has done. So Brian stated it's has 15 uh 14 schools and then good job CISA 3 itself the entity finally got back in. Uh so they're finally large enough to be part of this again. So there's been a large history of it. It started with dean and medical associates. We had some you know challenging years when we were first trying to get it off the ground. Act

08910 happened. we moved to WVA which opened up more opportunities for other schools just given our geographic territory to be able to come in and so we do have this I won't walk through this but I think it's pretty impressive we are really really proud of uh what we've been able to do because the whole point of the co-op and you already do this right you know what co-oping is there's a reason you come together and it's in this case to purchase health insurance and to have a larger risk pool to spread out some of the risk so you don't have, you know, those bumpy years are easier to deal with if you're part of a larger group. We've evaluated this for a very long time for Dodgeville. For the longest time, you ran really

090well with your medical loss ratio, right? So, you're one of the larger districts in CISA 3 and it never really made sense for you in the past to come into the co-op. What does that evaluation mean? Uh, what that is is we just automatically do that for you. So, we share claims experience, claims history, census data, and Quartz's underwriting team did an evaluation. Uh, they've been very, uh, conservative, I'll be nice, uh, with how courts is operating in the market right now. They have not been helpful with, you know, providing a lot of competitive proposals. But good thing for the CISA 3 co-op, we had a not to exceed 6% rate cap. Next year is an RFP year. We try to operate in three-year cycles because we've been able to provide stability to the co-op

091like those big Dane County schools you always heard about with their five-year deals, three-year deals. That's another reason we created this so midsize and smaller rural districts can have that same kind of budget planning stability that the larger districts uh have always had the opportunity to do. So, we're in the last year of our rate cap. So, we did get that 6%. Next year we will do an RFP and so that is something that we'll when we're going when Ryan is going through these options we'll definitely talk about that uh because you know that is an unknown uh when we go into RFP year and because it is with courts and you're with Dean and you've been with Dean for a while that's disruptive to staff to members we want to take member experience into

092consideration so that'll be a big part of what we want to talk about but I wanted to at least provide you with background on the co-op that we've behind the scenes looked at it for you for years. Uh but it's been, you know, it just hasn't been the right timing. Uh and I feel like we want to, you know, we'll look we'll continue to look at it and we have some options to talk about today. >> Has the co-op always how how long has the co-op been in existence? >> 2009. Okay. And has it always been connected with courts? >> Nope. So originally it was with dual choice with dean and medical associates and then it became a kind of a challenge geographically to support that. Uh a lot of the u more challenging health

093utilization risk went to medical associates. Medical associates was really increasing the rates quicker than dean. So we had some kind of adverse selection going on. So then uh we moved to WEA which we all knew was a statewide network. So we didn't have a lot of those provider issues, but it also really increased the cost, right? So then we moved it to Unity and Ryan and I worked together because he worked at Unity, which is now courts for a number of years. So he's very familiar with the co-op too. Uh and when we made that switch, um we've been with Quartz ever since. And we had >> since when uh when was that? I have to look at my sheet. >> The second three years at least six years. So at least six years. >>

094Yeah. So it was my understanding that courts and GHC were exiting this area of the state as providers. Is that just is it different with a CISA co-op plan? >> Small group where they're exiting. And that's where it's so confusing. Believe me, we had a lot of panic from all of the schools that are in the CISA3 co-op calling, you know, calling me up and just saying, "Oh my gosh, you know, they're leaving." And I said, "They're not." Uh, they're making business decisions to exit small group. We are a large group. Uh, but that's something we're always watching. So, it's a good question. That's always concerning. We have to keep a pulse on that and we provide updates when we learn of it. uh you know they're making business decisions to pull back in areas

095and then they're looking to expand in other areas. So that's something we always have to keep an eye on. That's something we looked at um and have looked at for Dodgeville just to see what that disruption could be because you are outside of Dayne County. There's not as much disruption right between courts and Dean. Uh but you will still feel some of it. members would feel some of it and they certainly would um heading into Madison if anyone's heading into like Dane County area for care. >> Any other questions on the co-op before I'll walk through these options? >> Yeah. are um are you anticipating well from what you know of the rates for other districts are you anticipating a number of districts considering the co-op or are we kind of an exceptional moment for

096our district >> you are because you're running so well >> okay >> most districts aren't I recently heard that Madison was running at 18 >> yes I represent them >> you don't always hear >> I don't always say that they Just kidding. They, you know, it's hard. They're they're in, you know, they're in a different spot, obviously, and >> they still have a very very rich plan design. They have a $100 $200 deductible. >> Um, they haven't moved into some of the directions that a lot of us have had to in the midsize, you know, districts and rural districts. Uh but um you know with that with all that being said uh you know we it's really you and Ithaca that uh we pushed and pushed and pushed courts to evaluate more districts. There were

097um we opened our borders this is of note to cease five. So we voted as a co-op to do that um many moons ago now. I all these years run together. I've been on three for 22 years. So, it's hard for me to like remember what happens each year because we always think a year ahead, too. But, um, we we really looked to evaluate a number of different schools that we both work on and some that were in Case 5 and Courts just said no, no, no, no, no to all of them. You got a yes, pushed very hard for that as well as for Ithaca. But even with that yes, it doesn't mean we have to do that. And that's, you know, something we really want to spend some time chatting with you about

098today. our thoughts and recommendations around that. >> So, question, if you go out for RFP next year, is it um a potential that Courtz's rates come in higher and you and Dean AL I mean does it go out to like a a bid? So, Dean would also be bidding on it and could >> Okay. >> And they have been very competitive. So, we really hope and expect them to be because we need to put that pressure on the incumbent carrier which is quartz. So yeah, it'll go out to, you know, GHC to WCA, GHT, which is Wisconsin Hony's Association, Group, Health Trust, WPS, really all of the carriers. Uh, I will say the most competitive carriers will always be the HMOs until something drastically changes. You know, we're feeling kind of the pressure of the

099HMOs changing, but GHC and Dean and uh will probably be some of the front runners for us to consider. But of course, we have to make sure that we have adequate coverage with providers. That's been a challenge um especially for uh North Crawford is our furthest one and we can't make a change unless it works for everybody. There have to be some in network providers and that's a you know co-op vote. Everybody's got a a seat at the table and a vote on that. So that would be a a concern number one losing local control and number two being uh in a sense victimized by that you u 100% vote in terms of uh changing anything within the co-op. So you're saying that as a concern that if you would join that you would lose

100some of your is that what you're saying for or >> you know if there were two two bids or something like that and one outlier school said no we don't want to do that and everybody else did and it would actually benefit us to to make that change. We would we would be in a sense victimized by that the protocol the how it works. And I hear what you're saying and uh I will say what I've appreciated most about all of the schools in the season 3 co-op is cooperation and being reasonable. >> Yeah. >> Any one of them could be in that same position. Sure. And you know, we just can't make that decision to move forward if there truly are no providers for a group that's already in the co-op. >> Is it

101usually the district administrator who's on the board? But we always welcome you know uh business managers anybody who wants to participate be part of a meeting and then we certainly report how you know that board resolution those decisions but I you make a valid point uh you still have you know a lot of your own choices like plan design there are a lot of plans to choose from and eligibility there's so many things that you get to choose but in this example yeah it was tough we had a year where it worked worked for literally everybody except them North Crawford and it was a really challenging year and they felt terrible but everybody agreed for the greater good that you know we were going to do what we were going to do and then then

102we got courts to come down and give us a zero and then not to exceed five in 2025 and a six for a 206. >> We also work with Platville and River Valley and those discussions aren't as positive as this one. um they traditionally have been historically I should say just like you where they've ran beautifully and their rates were way under what the uh co-ops rates are and now River Valley had a 26.9 from courts. So can you imagine sitting here and trying to figure out how we're going to make modifications to a 26.9 and Blackville had a 23.9. So, you know, those those discussions are not fun, but we've we had courts look at both those districts, too. And to Bree's point, I think maybe six overall, and Ithaca and Dodgego were the

103only two that we could get courts to at least consider. >> Okay. >> So, yeah. So the the rates for next year are kind of all over the place just as we experienced for a number of years where they skyrocketed and stayed high and all of a sudden now they're lower again. >> Very challenging market. >> You know it's like so many ups and downs but there are more double digit increases now than ever. >> Really hard. So we don't know if this six, you know, uh they quoted us now Dean as 6.9 >> or what the co-op would be if this is our our our golden moment or whether because you next year could be 15 whatever. >> That's why we have a lot of thoughts on this. >> Yeah, we do. We have

104a lot of thoughts on this and your 6.9 is like we said is wonderful. Um and having the 9.9 not to exceed for next year is incredible as well. We anticipate that we're going to continue to run like we have the last year and a half. Knock on wood. Yes. And we still have options next year. We can still go to market. We also I chatted with Ryan and Michelle Bri and I did about Yes. It's it's great that we have the option to consider the co-op and we can get into the financials in a minute. At the same time, it's not going to hurt us to explore that again next year. >> Okay. >> It's not and if if we can't get in next year, we still have that not to exceed 9.9. So,

105good spot to be in. >> I have a question about once you're in. If you have a couple bad years, are you kicked out or do they Once you're in, you're in? >> Once you're in, you're in. You do need to make a three-year commitment. You can't jump in and jump out. It's always been three years. You need to meet with the co-op again. And you know um I think the hardest piece of the co-op is you know these volatile years and how much the market is changing and how we have to adapt. So I know there's a lot of people that are very nervous right now. All the co-op members they you know the six is great. No increase is good right? But a six is is fantastic and they've planned for it but

106there's a lot of uncertainty about next year. Uh, and so, you know, we need to continue to be nimble and creative and figure out uh the best path to stay together. I'll be honest, you know, something we talk about to um at more of a leadership level because there are a number of us that have co-ops and consortiums across the state. We have to keep taking a look at that and determining, you know, we have districts that are like, well, are you going to start a new one? So that's why we we're always looking at um doing an evaluation to open our borders and there are a lot of other shiny objects and different funding arrangements out there. And we understand when you don't pass referendums how that feels, right? You want you need to

107listen to everything and understand all of your options. We understand that too. So this, you know, constant evaluation of the co-op and, you know, how it's structured will also be something that we want to keep an eye on and that we'll communicate. So even when it looks like, you know, you have a great option on the table to come in, we'll want to u, you know, make sure that long term that's going to be a good fit for you because coming in, you need to know your you need to be committed for at least three years. >> What's the biggest school district in the consortium? Uh would it be Iowa grant or would it be let me go through my head? Um grant trying to I'm going through all of them in my brain. >>

108We would be the biggest if we would join up >> but the bigger ones that you think about in southwest Wisconsin are not part of it. >> Blackville's not part of it. Yes. >> Valley Richland etc. >> Yeah. >> Correct. Um, you know, but this is the thing. Everyone's really interested when they're not running. Well, >> not interested in taking you then, >> you know, and that's and that's just it. I've always said it's not a matter of if it's when. >> Yeah. >> Uh, and it's all about the proper timing and it is harder to bring in larger groups, you know, that we have to be careful uh because we want to protect the integrity of the co-op. We can't bring uh challenging knowingly bring challenging risk in. That's why search charges exist and

109there are other, you know, factors that we've tried to help ease in some of those claims, but once you're in, you're in. >> Okay. >> And and one piece about that, the data is aggregated, so districts do not know how they're running individually. >> And that's a good thing. It prevents it prevents that conversation that, hey, we're supporting or subsidizing the other schools. They're like-minded. It's intentional. And they're all bought in. >> So once you're in, you're in. But it, you know, it might be your year to have a bad year. Yeah. >> You know, and you're supporting other districts, but that's been good with CISA 3 and our other, we have two other ones in our team, so we have three total. Um, mine is in the southeast portion of the state, and there's

110nine districts in that. And it's incredible how many districts want a part of that. But we have to be intentional and mindful of back to your earlier question how big it it it reaches because we have some in this in the central part of the state where a district is the one to the south or the one to the north where now it's an RFP year and the providers aren't going to fit. >> So we're lucky enough in the CIA 3 region we know the providers or the carriers that will bid and they all are pretty much a fit for all districts. Okay. So that's that's that's a good aspect of being in the CISA 3 co-op. >> How much in advance do you know the next year's premium? Is it once you go out

111for RFP, they only give you one year or if it's is do they give you three years or two years for the co-op? Yeah. So when when Bri and our team create that RFP, it'll call out exactly what our expectations are. They don't have to meet those expectations in terms of three years. Um but given the size, we're hopeful they will. Um but generally speaking, the bidding carriers will wait for a renewal from the existing um which is courts. And it might not be that way because courts will answer the RFP as well. Um but those come in and not each dis or not each quoting carrier, they might not all meet the criteria. That's where we have to negotiate behind the scenes. So that would be our expectation is another three-year commitment for the

112the members >> to to the provider. >> Yes. >> You have a three-year commitment to that provider. But do they have a commitment for a not to exceed or >> Yes. Yep. Exactly. That's that's what that three-year perm or contract would be. >> And we can always it's it's not the districts the CISA 3 co-op is not tied to that. You could leave anytime if there's something that goes wrong. There's not a penalty to get out of those contracts, which is good. But yes, that the expectation is here are the rates for 2027, 28, 29, and 30 does not to exceed the worst case scenarios. >> I mean, that would be really helpful from a budgeting perspective just so you know what you're facing. And I know while this might seem really good compared to

113what we might have gotten, you know, it's I mean these rates are still better as part of the co-op than what we're getting as a renewal >> on the bottom here. >> Yeah, >> this is a good time to go over. >> Yeah, let's know there's a lot on here would help. >> Okay. Um the total district cost today just for perspective premiumwise um and your HSA contributions in red at the top 1.977 million. So quite a bit of money right? Um you can see your current benefit design plan design with the HSA contributions. If you move to the right you can see where we we were 3468. the 6.9% in red there represents $117,000 increase or 5.9% which is because we backed out the the employee contributions. So that's what the impact is to

114the district. Okay. And then you can see the rates for individuals what they would go up HMO and then point of service. To the right of that is renewal option A. And really what this does here today, we offer the HMO and the point of service. Um there is no buyout for individuals that choose the the point of service, meaning the district will contribute that 88% for an HMO or a point of service. Our recommendation is to that's fine if we have the point of service in place, but base your contributions off the HMO as the base plan. If you would like more flexibility with the point of service, you would pay the additional. The employee pays additional. And that is really standard for all the school districts that we represent that have either an

115HMO an HMO and a point of service. So that is the only difference here. And that moves your increase from a district perspective to 5% plus 5%. That's the only change on renewal option A. Does that make sense from how you base your contributions? Okay. >> It kind of I mean it matches the co-op, but it also that's how the state plan is set up that the state is you know that the employers that participate in the local arm of the state plan they base their contribution on the lowest cost plan or most affordable plan and that's what the HMO would be. So if you want freedom of choice to go in and out of network you can pay a bit more in the difference in your premium. the co-op options on the bottom here.

116Just a little bit of color commentary on how the co-op is set up. Um, back when Bri and I worked um WA at Unity or now is courts, we streamlined the rating process. So, the rates are the same for all the plans, but there's only so many plans offered. So, when we bring school districts into the co-op, we try to match them up with the best case scenario for plan design. So today there's a 2004,000 and there's a 4,000 8,000 and there's nothing in between. So we had to look at that in the rates. Okay. So that's why 48,000 you'll see on the top across the board. Okay. 4,000 8,000 is still an embedded deductible and it's a qualified high deductible health plan. Um the HSA contributions remain the same in this scenario. So you're

117you're decrease in your deductible. Employees would have a little bit more out out of pocket there. But you can see the increase the rate increase is 8.1%. The overall district increase would be a 7% on option three there. Any questions about that? The next option 3A, same plan design, district contributions are increased to 2004,000 from 1510 in 2810 to offset the increase in deductible. Just to illustrate this, that represents a 10.7% increase to the district or 212,000. It also takes into consideration that true buyout that we talked about with Dean. So, individuals that would opt for that point of service would still buy up. We're not sure how that would break down. Um, individuals using the point of service today, we think are using that for flexibility to access UW. Uh, we can't get that

118granular with the with the data. But when when uh evaluating or looking at the data, there's 86% of the claims are going out of network. So those folks that are opting for the dean point of service today are using that to access out network doctors. So if they were to choose courts, they might not need a point of service because that's obviously owned by UW. That's our best guess as to why folks are enrolling in that point of service plan. The last option is 4,000 8,000 removing the point of service option. So everybody's contributions based on that HMO. No change to the district HSA contributions. So this would be going back to the current 1510 per single 20 2810 per family. And that increase is 5.1% to the district or 101,000. >> It's a lot

119of words on there. Something just to pay attention to as well because we do have a lot of plans in the CISA3 co-op. I had to negotiate with courts underwriting uh and push back and say we needed an embedded deductible. All of those plans that are in currently in the co-op are all aggregate deductibles. So that means one person can meet that whole family deductible before the insurance kicks in. So we push to get the embedded. They granted that. It's a bit of a compromise. Um but what they wouldn't do is have an embedded deductible the 48 for the point of service. So, please note that if people did choose and we did want to offer a point of service, if we went with this option, that 4,000 8,000 for the point of service deductible

120would be aggregate. >> And do all the districts participating in the co-op have these three choices? >> There are more. So, there are several plans uh that we have. The lowest deductible plan we have is a 500 a,000 and there's only one district that's on that and that's Rio. So that's one of our C5 districts. Then um we have another plan that's a little more unique um with I a 750. Partyville is on that. >> Okay. >> Needless to say we have to do a little cleanup on the plan design. Nobody's going to like that. I think it's going to go over about as well as the cell phone policy. So, we're gonna see how that conversation goes. >> Something I want to do. >> I'm feeling your pain. >> Only two. >> I'm gonna

121have to have a hard conversation with the co-op. Um, and then there's a 2004,000 uh H that has co-pays. There's a 2004,000 >> qualified HGHP. And then there's the 4,000 8,000 both with co-pays. and then district qualified high deductible health plan. >> So are these the only three options to our district? >> Yeah, viable options. Yes. Yeah, >> we could change SH HSA contributions. In doing so, it just changes our numbers, but the the deductible ones would be the ones that would be locked in. >> Can we go back to the embedded deductible again and explain that again? Yeah. So what the embedded is when when you first came out with these highdeductible health plans, everything was aggregate, but traditional plans have an embedded deductible, right? So lower deductible plans were always embedded. And and

122what that means is that what if one person in the family has a bad medical year, right? they can meet that single deductible and then the insurance the plan will start paying for them and then a combination of other family members can meet that family deductible and then the insurance will be paying for everybody in that plan year. Whereas with the aggregate uh the insurance plan will not kick in until that whole family deductible is met. So one person in that family can meet that full family deductible. Let's say we have one person on a really high specialty medication. they go into uh the pharmacy and they could meet that whole deductible in one point of sale when they pick up that that um prescription. So, it is it is really nice to have that

123embedded. It's a better member experience, especially for families where maybe only one person is having a challenging medical year. >> Thank you. >> It's confusing and they have so many names. >> Embedded, non-mbedded, aggregate. What's our timeline for making a decision? >> Ideally, for enrollment purposes, we'd like to make a decision yet early part of May. So then we can start the enrollment process and get that done in May versus when employees all leave and then we're trying to do it over the summer. So ideally, this would be making a decision um first part of May. >> Okay. So in terms of the employee experience if you were because right now our hospital is a dean clinic um and then but I think courts you can still go to the Upland Hills hospital not to

124the SSM clinic downstairs right and so if they wanted to go to the clinics it would be the Upland Hills clinics or the Dodger Medical Center. >> Yep. So then it would be so with Upland Hills for like if we're talking about family medicine, >> you know, it would be um Montford, it would be um Okay, I just looked at these today on the names of them. What are the two other ones or Highland >> Highlands? >> And then there's one more. There's one in >> I just had to like flash as when I'm driving here I had to think about each one of the schools and like who's where's Yeah. where everyone is. Yeah. You know, we've we have looked that up for you. So there I think the challenge uh has always been

125I think it might still be a challenge there. There have always been some like dean special specialists coming in and that's been the deal with Upland Hills for as long as I can remember. that was like an uphill climb when Unity took over the co-op, especially for Barnavald and for Highland. You know, those were challenges at that point in time. So, it would be it would be really good education. Um, and like I said, it's tough because we just have so much uncertainty about next year with the RFP year. uh our concern for you would be uh you know with the members making this change coming into the co-op and you know for a year and then if we move to dean you know I'm not saying that is what is going to happen but

126um it's it's going to be a little bit of an uphill battle for courts and dean is has been really competitive so you know because you are located where you are and you I would believe are the closest CISA 3 school that heads potentially to Dane County, right? It would be a bit more disruptive for your members. >> That'd be my concern is >> the member experience. I mean, it's all great saving money, >> but to start sending all of our staff out of town to find doctors when we have a perfectly capable facility in town, that that bothers me a little bit. I love the work that's done on this, but I I want our staff also to have a easier point of use, the ability to actually talk to the people that they

127know in town and we're not sending them east or west to to find medical care. >> We're going to push I'm sorry, I just want to share this because I think it's relevant. We're really going to push the carriers to get us proposals as early as possible when we go out for bid for 2027. So that's, you know, really pushing to get it maybe even in the early part of February. The co-op is a 91. And typically in RFP years, it's very hard to add new groups because the group itself, we're going through this whole RFP process and we have to evaluate and you know, it's it's hard for other schools to wait, right, to for the co-op to make the decision and then you have to just quickly in uh but you know, it's

128not impossible. so that you have what you have on the table right with Dean and you can budget to the worst case scenario next year being 9.9. >> Um the minute we know what the co-op is doing, you will know uh you know in any other group that is interested and we'll try to get you through the evaluation. So that doesn't mean that you would miss out on that. It would just be you'd have to be a little patient uh because it might be a little later time frame. any >> I I think what changed the discussion since last Thursday when when we met with Ryan was what Dean came back with. I mean the two points is great, don't get me wrong, >> but the fact that they put the not to exceed on

129for next year. >> It makes it feel a lot better and it really is our recommendation to you know renew with Dean whether whatever you pick up here because we have that we have that safety net for 27. So we can kind of understand what CISA 3 the entity is going to do the co-op is going to do. >> So I'm you know great decision but I think if we just had that 6.9 or that 8.9% increase I think this discussion would be much different. >> Yeah. Is it plausible that in a scenario that we switch and it actually could cost us more given that the rates that we're currently getting would be so is it possible the courts it could the co-op rate could be higher and we're not getting the cost savings that

130we anticipated because if we switch isn't there a fee to start in this new there's yes I would I would say there could be a situation I don't mean to speak for Bri but we work together long enough all the time. >> I I would say that there could be a situation where there's no bidding carriers except for courts releases, you know, their renewal and says this is our best, just a one-year situation. If their utilization doesn't improve, it's not awful in the co-op. It's just it's that year, right? For everybody, it seems like >> tick tock. So it it it is possible, Ryan, that there could just be a renewal from courts that's not favorable. That is for sure. >> Hope that's not the case. >> I I love that you said it out

131loud, but it's true. I mean, we we have to be transparent. Everything is on the table. We hope that that we don't have to go down that road, and that to me is abandoned. Um, you know, but the co-op the co-op has again run really well and now they're ticking up, right? Um, so, you know, they're we will see if we add anybody else. I forgot about Darlington. So, Darlington's in an estate plan and they are interested in coming in, but they wouldn't be able to do that until the first of the year uh because they're on a one-mon one cycle. But yeah, it's it's always a possibility that, you know, maybe Dean doesn't want to come to the table and be competitive. Maybe everybody declines to quote. You know how that feels. Hopefully that's

132not the case for the co-op because the co-op is large. You know, we have, you know, significant membership in it. You know, closer to 2,000 members, which is a big deal. And, you know, carriers have been interested in it. And again, they want to work in three-year increments because the last thing they want to do is buy that business for one year, right? As an insurance carrier, they want at least a three-year runway. I mean that's why we've had success in negotiating and obtaining those rate caps in the past. >> Did did you reference is there an entry fee to get into the club? >> So we did work on sir charges so similar to the state. So when we go through the evaluation and I come back to you and you know to your

133team to say either I say yes you're in with no search charge or either you can come in but you might be paying 15% more in the first year because your claims are a little high right now and to help absorb that and not hurt the co-op you're going to pay a little bit more in the first year. This happened I'll give basketball as an example. This happened with basketball. So when they came in, they had a sir charge in the first year to do that. Then they won the second year because they kind of recoup recoup those dollars because they fell back in line with the the rates that the co-op had. Um or it's just a straight up no. So it's yes, no strings attached, yes, if you want to pay the search

134charge, or just no, this isn't going to work at this time. >> So currently with our rates, would it be yes, no sir charge? >> Yes, sir charge. search. >> Yes. >> And that's what this is. >> This is a search >> that's already in there. >> Oh, okay. >> Put that in there. >> Okay. >> So, potentially our rates would be it'd be renewed with courts and it was favorable, they could come down because >> Yes. >> You're trying to estimate that, but again, it's another unknown. >> Sure. >> Which is just hard. I wish I had my crystal ball and it better not be what you said. >> No, we don't think it's going to be that. I mean ultimately >> like we don't know if if courts doesn't make adjustments to their

135underwriting philosophy right now >> there's good potential that it would go to dean and that's that would really be a disruptive situation for staff for one year and then flip back to dean when they might have already had to establish a new primary care doctor right >> so that that is that is part of this overall strategy and I think that lends to that 9.9% not to exceed and you know can certainly evaluate this again next year >> what Would our loss ratio need to be do you know to be like accepted into the co-op again next year versus saying well now actually next year you don't >> we're going to be a 0% >> uh no >> you have a great loss ratio >> right now it's fine 86 I mean it's not going

136to be a it will not be a situation >> yeah well it wasn't many years ago when 86 was >> a pipe dream for We were absolutely way up there. So >> I remember when you were in the high 60s, low 70s, those were the days. >> We carrier options too back. >> We got negatives. Oh, I missed those days. Yeah. So I mean if you if you think back to one of my comments earlier like target for the HMOs well I should say most courts has adjusted their target MLR to now be at 89%. Because they apparently need more admin but GHC and and Dean are still around that 91 to 92. So think about that. That's the target at 9 91 92. You're right. >> So it's easy to get back two points

137but you know we've had some rough years too. Yeah. So, new leadership at Dean has said, "We can't make districts, especially district public entities, pay for the past. We have to look at what's going on now." That's why they've been such a good partner. >> Okay. I'm thinking, you know, last year we u because we increased the the deductibles which was difficult for some people I think in in a practical day-to-day for us to then ask them okay now we're going to switch carriers it would be very difficult for them um especially when we know when we have a kind of a guarantee for next year it's to to be decent to our folks who use the policy. We have to think about that as much as anything. >> So based on all of this,

138is the is the recommendation to go with renewal options? >> Things seem pretty straightforward >> and just make people who want service pay a little more to access that. That makes sense. revisit it next year, >> right? >> It provides us stability for two years in a budget that we were predicting now and we've >> gone under that. So, it provides us a level of flexibility on okay where what do we use that for? How does that help us in our bigger picture? um keep the healthy habits going forward and the practices that we've been educating the staff on to utilize this the plan the way it's intended to. Um >> so yeah, I think to me that's that's that's where I feel better about I know we just got this information staff are just

139going to start I mean they're they're hearing about it tonight. We've got to get information out to them here um tomorrow and the rest of this week. But I feel like this is where we can move on this one. Um, >> I think it's a really good conversation to have though and the ability of them to be able to see what's on your screen right now at home and understand. We did discuss this. It wasn't a five minute conversation. Oh, by the way, you changed our planet. We don't know what's going on. Um, I think this was really good to have the full conversation on the consortium and what theme is offering to us. I appreciate you both coming in. >> Yes, that's very very helpful. >> And I think just the messaging to staff

140would be if we can run a pretty good year loss ratio by doing putting into practice the things we've already been doing but maybe there are some other things we can work on in hopes of getting into the co-op with hopefully Dean or staying with Dean as is with not a 9% 9.9 maybe >> get something lower than that. So I think just utilizing it because that's what it's there for but doing it in smart ways. >> Yeah, good point. >> Gives us power to negotiate >> which is got us lower rates. And so those are the things that are important in this market is to not say well this is the only option we have. No, now we have options and this is the important part that gives that team leverage when they go

141to the table. So they're working for us. So, Ryan, just uh how do you think it's going to be perceived by the staff? I know we don't have control over the increases in the uh deductibles and stuff like that, the $100 and $200 um increase, but given that that was a substantial jump for them last year, and in essence, a lot of staff ended up taking a pay cut because there was no extra contribution, how is it going to play that we're increasing the deductibles again and not doing any extra district contributions? >> They will see it as a pay cut. They will look at that and say, "Well, now we're taking another pay cut um in a year that we're not looking at doing any increases for cost of living." They're going to say

142is we're taking a pay cut. That will be 100% the response >> are going off as well. >> So that will be that will be 100% of what they say. >> Can I just add one thing? Absolutely. If we don't do that, then we we we revert back to the aggregate. So then the families are really they could potentially be penalized that $6,600. So that's the other to remain compliant from an embedded standpoint. I think it's I mean we can we can control some of that messaging. This is an IRS mandated increase. >> Um and so I mean I look at it like we're protecting the individuals for sure. >> Yeah. That I'm not questioning as the increase in the deductibles. It's just it's just a hard spot for our employees to be in with

143no extra contributions towards their HSA. >> One of the things that we could run a model with is to see what's going to cost us if we were to say we increase the HSA contribution on the single by 100, the family by 200. What is that going to cost us? What does that put us at a percent? that could put us at a percent that is still within the budgeted amount and it won't be as much of a cost savings, but it still could potentially be a cost savings for the district. So then staff will will at least make it so your deductible amount stays the same. Here's a one-time contribution increase, which we can always adjust um to lessen that impact on the health care side of things. What'll be interesting too is to

144see uh you know if you do implement the true buyup on the point of service how many people move over to the HMO. There's going to be some shifts potentially around that. You're getting you know projected savings if everybody that's on the point of service now continues to do that. So that's what we modeled out. But there could be some wiggle room in there too. Um, >> yeah, >> which would help maybe offset some of those costs if you do decide to contribute a bit more on HSA. >> We'll put that together, right? That increase in HSA contributions. >> Let's go ahead and Yeah, you can run that. We've done that in the past and then I can share it with the board here on hey, here's here's what this looks like, what it's going

145to cost us to try to make the HSA the deductible neutral at least moving into this. I don't know that we can always match to make sure that the premiums don't increase. It's we're not in that we had fund balance then I can say yes. Um and that's why we went to a higher deductible last year was well we've got to offset that. Um so that would that would be what we're going to hear is we're taking a pay cut. Um that is that is where they're they're right. Um, I don't know what other options we have. >> I do want to apologize for not moving you guys in the agenda up, but I just want to tell you thank you so much because your partnership in this has been critical in us to be

146able to make sound decisions, educated decisions, and so thank you. >> Was it a coin flip between the cell phone policy? >> You won. you got moved up because >> I wanted you to hear that cuz like and you can use this in the meeting for different topics. >> Believe it or not, we like to hear everything that's going on, especially all the positive things. You know, it hurt it hurts our heart when we see the election results, too. It's really hard because, >> you know, we want to be part of the positive change and know that the only lover you have is insurance. You keep coming to that well to try to look for things. So, it's it was hard. A lot of our schools >> uh didn't have great results. So, we are

147sorry for that. Uh, you know, it puts you in a hard spot, but we feel so much better. >> You're in a better spot >> than a lot of other districts and we're glad you have options. >> Yeah, we are. And I have to go to Houston next next Wednesday night. So, >> that's not fun. >> Yeah. Thanks a lot. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you for your time tonight. Thank you. >> You're welcome to stay for the rest. talk about operation. >> Yeah, we can't hold it until >> Thank you for coming. >> All right. And there's our segue to 4.5, which is operational referendum discussion. at 8:30 p.m. >> So, with that, um, this is really a reminder. I don't know if there was additional information that you guys wanted to

148add, but I just want to send out that reminder that I know we talked about it committees, but you were going to get me your analysis um, on the operating referended by referendum by May 1st. And so I didn't know if there was any other discussions that you guys wanted to have on this. Um, >> would you like that in an email, PowerPoint? >> Video. Wow. >> Video. >> No, I don't want video. I prefer PowerPoint. >> Interpretive dance. >> Send those to the high school. He can interpret that for us. Put it up on YouTube. Yeah. Um, no, I think that would be that would be the point that I'd say is just get it to me in a word doc or Google doc. And then also as wanting to add this discussion on,

149you know, board retreat, I tried to come up with a different word versus retreat so that people didn't think we're spending money and going offsite to do this. Um, we don't spend money on retreats. So >> workshop gathering >> we went with retreat. That was the only thing that could come to mind and I just figured I'd speak on no we're not spending money on this. Um but looking at okay when might be a time that we want to have information shared. do we want to do this as a um infinity process where you also submit to me ideas of things that you feel like we need to discuss and then knowing okay are they one agenda items that we bring up um and are there different audience members because if you're talking evaluation of

150the superintendent I shouldn't be there for that one but if we're talking about curriculum related matters I want to make sure that I can get the admin team to those topics so as we start to process like what is the hierarchy Harchy of things that we want to discuss. We could look at it as what are the things that are the most important. Um everything can't be important. So we're going to have to triage what are the things that we really want to put a hierarchy behind. So that was an idea that I wanted to throw out there is okay what might be some topics and then when do we want to space these out? Um, I don't know that some of you are retired, some of you have jobs, and so it is going

151to be a challenge to figure, okay, when is the time to do these so that it works in people's schedules. >> Ryan, were you talking about these different topics of them being different meetings with the board or or that would set the agenda for our one uh our board? They could be topics that would be, hey, we're going to do one agenda items. So, it could be a 4 to 5:00 pm. We're going to discuss this item. Um, I'm I'm concerned about how and when are we going to find time that meets a diverse group of people's schedules so that we can keep making progress on this and it doesn't become, well, no, we're waiting until June or July and if at all possible, I don't, you know, some we may not have vacation days

152or time to put in for this. is is there a way that we can start shipping through some of these in May? So that was my proposals and like hey to start making progress and you give me a list of when you're submitting these referendum ideas maybe also submitting your ideas about topics because I can compile that and then we could do a voting on okay which ones become the highest priorities and who are the people that we should have present. Um, and I know you guys and I too I need to know what my evaluation process is. So I do believe that's a priority and I should I not a part of that. You guys though could figure out okay when are you going to do that meeting? >> Right. What I'm hearing too

153is that you supposed to gather our thoughts for the >> Yep. >> But now I'm also hearing you say that you want us to generate topics for a board retreat. So would you like us to each send you an email with the topics that we would see like are the agenda or our workshop? >> Yes. >> And that is separate from the thoughts from the referendum discussion. >> That would be separate but giving both of those by May 1st. >> Maybe you could dig up as well topics that we came up with a year ago or so because they're probably at the top of that list was money and it's going to be money again. Um, and so the topics may be somewhat similar and it be a it' be a way to kind of

154jog our memories as well. >> I can share I can share that with you guys. I think that was our >> staff recruitment and retention list. You were you thinking like Jamie Nutter when we >> generated those? Yeah. >> So I can share those back with to you and then it could be this. Okay. What might be some things that you want to put as your high priorities? Yeah. So, I'm going to add that and I'm going to change it to workshop by May 1st. Um, do you also want us in the list of topics also to give you dates that would work for us? >> That would be helpful. I think I'm also wondering about um can't think of what the I think an app where you can put calendar dates out there and

155then we can >> What's that? >> Calendarly one. >> Calendarly. We can create one on that. Let's do that. >> Do that instead of >> because I'm used to >> and you'll get to that to us by May 1. >> I'll get back to you. I'll get back to you by May. anything else on let's move on to care programming and fees. >> U put this back on discussion. I think one of the things that we reviewed was doing a $1 increase just for the first student or first um individual um student. The question on that trying to think of the word I want to use >> I >> child child >> it's it's first child second child third child >> first child yeah >> um however wondering okay do we want to add a

156dollar to all first child second child and third child um and so put that rate package together um for us to decide which which model do we want to go with just the first child or do we want it to All children will have a one increase and those will be the rates that we use. >> We're good with all >> similar >> very reasonable. Yes. Yes. >> Okay. Um the other conversation that happened around that was the double rates for individuals who are not in the district but coming into the district over the summer is when this happens. Um we do have some families that are looking to they're done with you know they're out of school for the summer. They live out of the district, but they parent lives or works in Dodgeashville,

157so they want them to be a part of the programming here. Um, do we want to have anything that would be contingent on not increasing our staffing levels, but because we have the staff available, there's seats available, that we would charge double the rates for those individuals. Yeah, that makes sense because as soon as you get over a certain child ratio and you have to add somebody, it might not be enough to have another session and then it's actually costing you. So, >> so we could we could set the criteria for here's our local families to register. We determine how many seats then we have available and then we can contact the families that are outside of the district but looking for temporary >> diet care. Yes, we move forward with that. >> Do we

158have any people that take advantage of that? >> We're looking at one right now. So, currently enrolly student. That's >> And did did Brian know from previous years if there had been for pre from previous years? We're looking at there is one and actually there's a couple more that are interested now as well. And so, >> we will ask for their child to enroll here. Yes, they will hear and then you get the disc get the disc. >> You know, I would say maybe the one exception would be if we have so much interest from outside of the district that it makes sense to hire another teacher to run another session because there's enough to justify and hold another session >> at the double rate. So, I think >> allow us to calculate it out.

159>> Yeah. Yeah. >> I appreciate that. the the one you gave us is with the dollar across the I'm afraid >> um you have both but we'll approve the one that has a dollar across the board. >> Okay. >> I think >> anything else about that. I mean it still is very reasonable for anybody that's ever had a child in daycare. is still there. Yeah. >> Still still very motion you guys will want to put forward is for the one with the dollar across the board. >> Yes. >> All right. 4.7 technology fundra. >> Yeah. This was a late discussion that came up from a staff group and I thought I'd put it on here as a potential as do we want to move forward with any sort of fundraising. The idea that came up

160was only to target technology, teaching technology and to make that be the easier ask than trying to manage everything that we tried managing last year. We did have technology as an option. I know there was at least there was one staff member that will be getting a new device next year um because a donation came in specific for that teacher to get a new device. Um so the question became is okay is this something we want to look at is for technology specific things being like a um interactive whiteboard or um smartboard or video display um the uh laptop that would run that andor the teacher Chromebooks. All of those things have been put on hold unless something breaks. It's a pinch point that we're going to experience this year where programming could be delayed

161because we don't fix certain things or we decided, hey, there's so many that we're going to fix or have on hand so we can rotate around when something does go down. The idea was to give us a give us something that we can just specifically try to target as staff. Um, and to me that I felt like it made sense, but I also can say is we don't have to push this now. um it would be something that gave them time to plan around it. Um so dollar amounts I I just went through the budget to look at okay what what is in the budget that's been cut. Um this would only replace the this year's devices. So we're not replacing all devices across the district. This is no this was the rotation that was

162going to happen for this year. And so it was teacher desktops 40,000, Chromebooks 10, teaching displays 50 totaling up to a h 100,000. I rounded up and down with the dollars just to give us some round numbers. And um so those would be the areas that we look to try to offset it. Um so the question is whether or not you want to explore that or if you want more time. Um, I think part of the struggle for me is that the fundraiser we did last year didn't was about half of this. And so it is it possible we could get some of this? Sure. Um, I just don't want to be disappointed, you know? I just feel like it's they're higher price point items. People do like to target specific teachers. Uh, you know,

163I know we experience at younger levels families can be incredibly generous and maybe that tapers off a little bit. So, I I don't think it's a bad idea. I just don't know if $100,000 is actually attainable, >> but anything will help. >> Anything would help. Yeah, anything. it. I think from my viewpoint, >> it it still sends a message that the stuff is needed. >> Yeah. >> Didn't pass. So now we're going to come ask for it. We may not get >> much. We may get quite a bit and not the full amount, but >> it is I mean it's something we need. >> Yeah. >> And if they're they're willing to put it together to >> run a donate, let's I say let's do it. But are are they willing to run the fundraiser?

164>> That would be the next piece is yeah, this would be a you guys this would give you something that you could put out there on whether you want to put it on your Facebook or you want to put it on your um class dojo. If we want to advertise it, this would give us that option um to say here here's something. I think one of the challenges that exists is this would give us something to do now because budgets classroom supplies I I really want us to stay away from the putting out the classroom supplies it is difficult to manage. It is difficult to make sure like yeah what you guys put out on your um wish lists those are district do those are district supplies those aren't your own personal you're using our

165marketing our web our logo that's district supplies and so it gets to be tricky on managing like what what are you all putting out there where this would be a school district organized fundraiser that the board has approved Um, so to me it just feels more organized and then we can use our other dollars to help make sure the classrooms are supplied with the resources that we actually want to see in the classrooms. That I think is the other piece is there are certain things that teachers know you're not buying that's not an appropriate thing for us to be having in our spaces. >> I agree with Randall. I think uh with a failed referendum and we're short on dollars this is a excellent point. We need this stuff. We have no other options to

166go to, but it's a fundraiser. So, I think it drives a point home. >> I think when you go out and ask for money, it's really helpful to say if you are willing to give $2,000 or this is what it would cover or this thing costs $2,000. So, if you give that amount of cost, >> right? Because this feels more abstract as dollar. >> I don't say displays for 50 grand, >> right? I mean, we could break it down. I think as a business, you know, you could say, I want to give I know I'm contributing it to getting a classroom teacher this Smartboard for $1,700 example. When you donate, you know that 253 is one day of care for someone, >> right? >> Yeah. >> But but what what I think is missing in

167that and it is every dollar counts and whatever we can raise, but what's missing is the person that says I have $20. And so >> by putting that, you know, it's 2,000 for a computer. Well, I I have 20 bucks. >> You can fund that computer for a day or a, you know, like, >> right, but it's it's looking for something for every person, not just for the person that wants to donate a whole. >> I totally agree with that. Yeah, >> that's true. >> Yeah. >> And I break it down that way. But I think you can you can when you target who you're asking for, you can change the messaging based on >> Yeah. who's doing that. >> I want to kick it back to the teacher group that brought it to me.

168Okay. The the board's interested or may or may not be interested depending on if you vote on this later. Um here's some recommendations that they would have >> in order to do this. >> This will be the only one coming to us. It's not like all of a sudden we're going to get a wash with donation options over the summer. >> Um I don't I think we can cap it at this is the one because of the dollar amount and technology is the is the biggest supportive tool that they need. I don't think we should fund raise right now for curriculum. >> Um I think right now this would be the area I'd say is we want to look at technology. I asked co-curriculars that's a different fundraiser but that wouldn't be going to the

169board club and support there. So now I think this this would give us a realistic proposal that we could put forward for staff to say yeah if this is something we can support moving forward given our current circumstance. >> Let's do it. So, it is an agenda item. >> And I've noted to do some unit costs on this. So, and even running it down to a day. >> I mean, >> it's hard for some people to feel like they can engage in something when the goals are >> definitely sort of this discussion. No. 8:41. Those of us that do >> and it's time to move on to start here, go anywhere alumni. >> Our next round of alumni coming through. So, this is going to be this will be posted publicly every Sunday or Monday,

170I think, is where we're currently at with that. >> Are they posted on Facebook? Is that >> They're posted on Facebook. We will be updating it to get it on our landing page. Um, I just we don't have all of those created yet. >> So, >> the first group was is not on the landing page yet, is >> the first group is not posted anywhere other than out on social media. So, we are >> working on getting that and I updated that here. However, the individuals we have, we've got Ashley Price, currently of Dodgeville, class of 2017, is a business owner of DodgerB Lanes. Um, just throwing out some highlights this time. recognized Denny McGra and the experience in agriculture courses as being a key foundation for her when she came through school. The next

171one will be Nathan Wy currently of McFarland class of 2000 is a business owner of Patriot Paddlers um doing kayaking adventures in Madison area. Um recognize Dave James and the experiences in the agriculture courses as well. Um, Alexander Harmon, currently of Santa Barbara, California, class of 2016, as an entomology curator, recognized Mr. Bart in kindergarten as being a key foundation to him getting the star he had. >> So good, >> having a major impact on the career choice. So that going back to the kindergarten experience, >> PhD. So he's a PhD. >> PhD. Um Ed Dun Dunar currently of the Madison area class of 2005 is a physician and associate clinical professor recognized Jay Bradley Baxter Canadler Tank Harrison Schwarz and Van Eps to be influential people. Um and just kind of that whole list

172of names would be iconic names when I started in the school district of hearing those people consistently being influential in so many kids' lives. Um, and then the last one will be Sarah Blast, currently of Highland, Wisconsin, class of 2010, is an AODA counselor and co-occurring disorder specialist, recognized Miss Burkard and Mrs. Camps as being influential people. So, there's so much more into their whole story. Um those are just a highlight of some of the things that they had to say and you'll be able to see those um every Monday evening on social media and then we'll get them also posted on our web page. >> Awesome. >> All right, we're ready for action items. 5.1 is consideration of approval of resignations, retirements, and hiring of district personnel. So, we actually have two resignations. So,

173I'll need a motion and a second to approve the resignation of Wendy Dueling as the DHS art teacher. Um, and to um accept the resignation of Addison Hoff as the middle and high band teacher. Um, along with that, we need to approve the hirings of a gentleman that's waited here all night over here in the corner. For those that didn't get to meet Jason Cole, um, we are wanting to approve the hiring of Jason Cole as a dees elementary school principal and Henry, is it Wallheim Ryan? >> That's correct. >> Um, as a DHS math teacher. >> Tada. Are those separate motions? >> They are one motion in our document. We can make them two if we want to. >> Depends on how many notes Miss Jessica wants to continue to write. >> If anybody

174have objections to doing them together, >> do we'll make the motion to accept You want to do it? Go ahead. All right. I was going to make a motion to accept the resignation of Wendy and Addison and thank them for their contributions to the district and to hire Jason Cole and Enry Wallheim. >> I'll second that. >> A motion by Randall and a second by Mike to approve the resignations and the two hires. And so we'll take a roll call, please. >> All right. Trader. >> Yes. >> Funky. >> Yes. Yes. >> Canadler. >> Yes. >> Angel. >> Yes. >> Thompson. >> Yes. >> Wasoric. Yes. >> All right. Since that's done. >> Okay. >> Welcome Jason. >> Yeah. >> Good to see you again. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> We're looking

175forward to it. You're welcome. >> Jason, did you bring your story or what's that? the book. >> Looking forward to this. >> Um, >> during his interview, he read us a book >> and it was fantastic. >> Awesome. >> But I guess he thought we didn't need to hear it again tonight. >> No, I didn't want to. I had a chapter book I was going to read, but I saw the agenda, so I put it away. I do have my I do have some some reading materials that I do have that I could read tonight. But no, I um I I did bring up ch I I bring a children's story that I read um every year to the staff to start the year. Um it's based off a theme um that I picked for

176the for this upcoming school year. So I had one that I knew I was going to have children part of the tour, which I think is absolutely fantastic by the way. I thought that was a a great addition to the interview process. And so knowing that um I tried to pick a story that I felt would resonate with those students and so I did that and then um I did not pick it for the staff. Um and then Ryan asked if I could do that and so um I did and I enjoyed doing that and so that's something that I think is pretty special and something that um collectively as a staff and a building that we can do together. So u but I did not bring that for tonight. But I'm looking forward to

177it. My family and I are very excited to be part of Dodgeville. >> Pretty shabuan area. So I'm just a little bit of a jaunt to get back tonight. >> It was important for me to be here too. So >> pleased that you came. I've heard a lot of good things about you from the interview process. >> Wonderful. >> Well, thank you. Looking forward to meeting you all and getting to know you as well. So, thank you very much. Sure. I think so. >> Thank you for being here and we look forward to it. >> It all starts before we know it. >> Okay. 5.2 is consideration of co-curricular contracts. We'll need a motion and a second to approve a co-curricular contract for Carter Grim for JV boys basketball coach. And that is thousand contract.

178Ryan or Joey. Yeah, this was something that I should have gotten on the agenda before. Something with the number of athletes that we had a part of boys basketball this past year, but I needed to make sure it was board approved that >> good. >> We brought in somebody because we had a huge influx of athletes. >> This is for the season just pass. >> This was the past season, but I I wasn't going to cut a check until we made a board approved. >> Make a motion. >> Okay. Question by Robin, second by Randel, >> and a roll call, please. >> Shider, >> yes. >> Madler, >> yes. >> Angel, >> yes. >> Thompson, Kinski, >> yes. >> Was yes. >> Okay. 53. Consideration of approval of the sweep contract. Um, so it's a

179motion to approve the sweep agreements as presented. And is everybody familiar with what the sweep agreement is? >> Been doing it for years. >> Yep. Oh, could you go over it again? >> We partner with some neighboring districts in order to have access to equipment um that we then share on a rotating basis. And so it saves the costs on everyone so that we're not renting these for one-time uses where no we know during the year like a cedar we're going to rent we're going to go into this agreement so we can get a cheaper rate and then share it through the neighboring districts. Was it like it's mainly is it grounds stuff mainly like airator and mounts >> primarily groundskeeping things. So you can see here we have the airator our rate rollers. >>

180So those are all the the pieces here. So saves every district money. >> I'll make a motion motion. by just second by Mike and roll call. >> Trader, >> yes. >> Can >> yes. >> Thompson, >> yes. >> Awesome. I for consideration of the Dodger Care fees. So, we'll need a motion and a second to approve an increase in Dodger Care fees, too. And we wanted >> I'll make a motion to increase it by $1 per child cost. >> I'll second that. >> Okay. Motion by Jess and a second by Michael Humpkey. And a roll call, please. >> Trader, >> Yes. Canadler, >> yes. >> Thson, >> yes. >> Oinski, yes. Humpy, >> yes. >> Hey, go ahead. >> Part for the non school. Is that part of that? >> Oh, do we have to

181do the double as part of that? No. >> Okay. >> Because it was all in the same purple. >> It's all in the same purple. >> It was the same in both. Yeah. A 55. Um, we need a motion and a second to approve the technology fundraising proposal. >> I will make that motion. >> Motion by Randall. >> Second by Robin. And a roll call. >> Trader. >> Yes. >> Pumpkin. >> Yes. >> Nadler. >> Yes. >> Angel. >> Yes. >> Thompson. >> Yes. >> Lazor. Yes. >> Okay. 56. Um, we need a motion and a second to approve the 2627 student Chromebook purchase to be set at what that means. >> Well, so what we have is I was only able to get one quote which was the more expensive. So we would know

182here is the worst case scenario. So, this is the touchscreen as um we've recently purchased. Um we're anticipating it's going to be about $17,000 difference by using the the version that's a non-touch screen. And so, right now is to look at okay locking in one of those so that we can move forward with it. Um, >> so could we do make a motion not to exceed >> not to exceed the >> 98,430. >> So I will make a motion to approve the student Chromebook purchase um at an amount not to exceed >> $98,830 >> 430. >> Yeah, I'll second that. >> Quick question. Do we have current Chromebooks that are touchscreen? >> Yes. Yeah. >> The whole the whole last >> some are I will say >> I guess >> my kids have the touchscreen

183and used to not and they definitely prefer the not touchscreen. >> I will say the not touch the non-touchscreen ones tend to have a better just refresh rate on the system cuz um knowing how touchcreens work they just constantly check if you're touching it. So it they tend to run just >> a little slower. >> Yeah, they generally run a little bit slower. >> Suppose I had one of those Chromebooks originally. So it's kind of >> it's Yeah. Yeah. >> The oldfashioned kind >> vintage. Goes it up. They'll be antique. >> Vintage. I made that motion by second by Randall. >> Roll call, please. Yes. >> Humpy. Yes. Canadler. >> Yes. >> Angel. >> Yes. >> Hson. >> Yes. >> The benefits of touchscreen. There's not really many. I guess it's just extra cost in

184my opinion. >> Barely use. 57 is a motion to approve repairing the security camera server at Dodgeville Middle School. >> Is it a is it hearing or is it purchasing a new one? >> It is purchasing purchase. So, it is it's going to um replacing the server that'll work and be on the rack model that we have. It comes with the 5year warranty included. And this just gets into if there are other issues with the cameras and that that is going to be a separate cost. They've tested the ones that they believe that it appears they're working, but I would not be surprised if we find out later. Yep. There might be an issue. But right now, I I feel like this is an issue that we have to address. >> Security issue. >> It's

185a security issue. >> So, it is replacing, not repairing the option. So, >> replacement of a server because we have repaired in the >> motion. So, we'll >> make a motion to approve to approve replacing the security cameras camera server at Dodgeville Middle School. >> Yeah, we'll second it. >> Motion by Jess and a second by Mike. And roll call, please. >> Sher, >> yes. >> Pumpkin, >> yes. >> Canadler, >> yes. >> Angel, >> yes. >> Thompson, >> yes. Yes. Yes. >> The last action item, Ryan, is a consideration of approval of donations. >> Yes. So, we do have a donation and in talking with one of the vendors, they do believe that we would be able to use those solar panels and that it would be cost effective to work with the inverters

186and use those. Um, so putting on there, we did have a donation of those panels. >> I'll make a motion. >> I would make a motion. >> Any second it so to approve the following donations 30 solar panel >> and inverters. This will be part of the RFP to work with these panels and come up with some package. >> So, the inverter is an added cost, but that will be still less than what um purchasing putting in new, >> right? I mean, either way, you need an inverter. >> Either way, you're going to need the inverter. Yeah. >> All right. Uh Shrader did. >> Yes. >> Okay. Humpy. >> Yes. >> Madler. >> Yes. >> Engel. >> Yes. >> Thompson. >> Yes. Kosinski, >> yesoric, yes. >> And so definitely wanting to thank Bill Hennessy

187and Larry Camp for those. Um, >> so great. >> All right, with that 6.1 is adjourned to executive session for discussion of personal information as per Wisconsin state statute 19.851 51C and F as described the following. Consideration of financial, medical, social, and personal information and consideration of employment, promotion, compensation, and performance evaluation. So, I'll need a motion. >> Motion by Mike. >> I'll second by Robin. Um, before we >> roll call. >> Yeah. Roll call, please. >> Okay. At 9. Okay. Um, >> Schrader, >> yes. >> Humpy, >> yes. >> Canadler, >> yes. >> Engel, >> yes. >> Thompson, >> yes. >> Kinski, >> yes. >> Moric, yes. At 9:06 p.m., >> stay in here. >> We'll stay in here. Thank you. >> Thank you.