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5/21/25 Board Meeting

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YouTube / Frederic School District
Date
2025-05-23
Location
Polk County, WI
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9,826 words · about 55 min
Collected
2026-06-11

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001All right. Um, first of all, I'll call the role. I'm here. Rene. Yes. Emily. Yes. Chris. Yes. Um, April isn't here now. I think she may still be coming, so we'll hopefully she'll join us shortly. Kyle, here. Megan. Aaron? Yes. And we also have Marcus and Jada joining us tonight. Thank you to both of you. Um just a quick note for everyone that's here tonight. We are um for the first time recording our meeting. So you'll see we have a camera in the corner. Um we this is a new thing that that we're going to be trying. This is the first recording that we're doing. So we may make adjustments to how the room is set up and other things as we see how um how this works. Um thank you to Brandon for being

002here to help us through that. So, we'll just kind of we're just going to give it a try and see what happens to see if we can um put out then a recording. The idea is that these um recordings of meetings would be posted to the district website the morning after the meeting so that people who weren't able to attend the meeting, they can't participate in it, but they can at least view the recording and see what happens. Um so, that's what we are that's why we have a new configuration. We'll all get used to it and then we'll change it again. Um all right. So on to um approval of the agenda. We do have a couple of different presentations tonight. We are going to um try and make an adjustment to the agenda.

003We have Debbie Bernett here from B who's going to be presenting tonight on our um and we have an item later on the agenda under our action items which is 10 G. Um and we'd like to be able to take care of the um discussion and voting on that item while Debbie is still with us. So, um could I get a motion to move item 10 G up to become number happened right after um agenda item number three? I'll make that motion. Can I get a second? Thank you. All right. All in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. We will move 10 up to right after. Okay. Um, so can I get a motion to approve the agenda with that change, please? I will. All in favor? Any opposed? All right. The agenda is approved

004with the change. So, first on our list then we have Debbie ready to chat with us about the defeasance. Debbie Bernett works with like the top company in the state when it went to school finance and Debbie and Mike Clark finance between the two, but we're in good hands with them. Thank you. I'll be second to Mike. That's I'm not telling them that. So, thank you for having me here tonight. I do have a hard copy handout if that's helpful. My my name is Debbie Brunette and I'm out of Oaklair, so not far from you. Um, working with Bar and I know I've been here before, so it's good to be back and good to meet some of you who I didn't get to last time. I'm here tonight to talk about the um cash

005to process and So the cash fees process is the opportunity when the district has funds available in order to prepay debt to generate interest savings. So the district has about $292,000 that has been levied. It can only be used for debt by statute that we want to take and apply as a prepayment through an official defeasance process. And through it we are expected to save about in interest over the balance of the the borrow. So the this front part gives us this the um timeline of the process that we would have that is happening and we're here on May 21st looking at the board approval of this default. So that's the final step your consideration and approval it can actually happen. Um at if approved we provide the information to the district so that the

006funds can be wired. The defeasence process takes the funds and and puts it in an escrow account and that escro agent will become responsible for your debt and then when it becomes prepayable the escro agent will make the payment on your behalf. But sending to the agent, it comes off of your book. So from your lens, it's it's paid at that point. We have it scheduled. If you look on the back of the page in the detail, you can see how we plan to apply it. So you currently have one referendum approved debt issue and that's outlined in the before category and as it was originally issued, it was scheduled to paid in full in 2039. The district has gone through this defeasence process in the past and I had the team pull the savings

007that you've already realized. So you've already realized $682,000 in interest savings through your previous defenses. And the reason why those seem so much higher is you had more to uh to fees and earlier you had more outstanding at that time. So your existing the original issue that was scheduled to be paid off in 2039. Currently, as it stands, it's scheduled to be paid off in full in 2036. We were able to reduce three years on it um with a partial payment in 2036 with this defeasance and application of funds. We would be reducing the instead of taking it off of the end, we are proposing to reduce some of the the remaining issues. And what that will do is reduce each levy by about 30,000 each year for the next 10 years. And that will

008give the district additional levy flexibility for uh a possible maybe your operational levy changes. maybe state does something with and and so it just gives you $30,000 of additional flexibility each year versus taking it fully off of the end which uh still has it now scheduled to be paid in 2036. So if approved and applied in this way that that 30,000 33 is estimated would be savings you would realize and become yours and and again the escro agent would become the owner of that debt. I think the final thing to note within this is that this doesn't take away the ability to continue to look at it for potential refinancing or you can and you can continue to prepay in the future. So this is just the next step in the process. We're continuing to

009evaluate it for refinancing. the market just isn't there right now in current rates as you might be aware what's happening out in the market. So are there any questions on the process or the thought behind the action of actuallying and what would occur that a few times to get to this point. So very helpful with this plan and next year our operating cost referendum will go from a half a million 875 That's an increase. So this is a decrease on next year's budget. So it kind of tile together. So one reason why this is more advantageous for us at this point. You mean that was the reason that you guys thought to do it this way as opposed to taking time off the back end? Correct. Yeah. Exactly. take a little off every year for

01010 years because we plan to go. Any questions about the process or finances involved? I like what you put together here. This is really This is really helpful for my non um uh financial brain to be able to read this and understand it. Oh, thank you. If no one has any questions for Debbie, are we ready to take up a motion on this issue or is there If you guys are comfortable, if I can get a motion to accept the proposal for defe. Wait, no, let me read it. A motion regarding the resolution authorizing the defeasence of a portion of the Frederick School District. Um, general obligation refund bonds. Can I get a motion? Can I get a second? All right. All in favor? Any oppos? All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank

011you. Say that quickly. You explained it very well. So when there aren't a lot of questions, it's easy to move more quickly. Thank you very much for your time. Appcate. Our next presentation is um with staff and community surveys with school perceptions or are we It is set to go at 5:30 the remote so we can continue on with some other stuff. I told Debbie to stretch us out. All right. So we could go back to that we'll go back to school. Yeah. Sounds great. All right. So next we'll um go with persons requesting an audience with the board. I think we do have someone here who would like to speak with us. It's okay to it's okay to speak from there. That's totally fine. Do you want to introduce yourself and let us know?

012Yeah, my name is Nicole Gray. I'm a very professional here. I know most of you. Um, I'm not asking for much. I'm looking mostly to give. Um, I like to find ways that I can give and I think I found a need that will help with here at the school. Um, I was a hairdresser for many years. I still hold a current license and I know that it is very hard financially in the And I've noticed, you know, I'm not judging, but I've noticed, you know, it's hard it's hard to keep up with haircuts for your kids. And um I just I really feel like it's not fair for a parent to have to wager paying a bill this month, taking their kid in for a haircut. And I don't think it's fair for kids

013to feel um like they're going to possibly get done for something. And I would love to offer giving free haircuts to the kids, the students within our school district. And the only thing that I would really be looking for permission or wanting from this is a place to do that in um possibly a room at the elementary school or a room at the high school. I have all the equipment. I've been salon for years and so I have a chair. I have all of the supplies. I actually took out an insurance policy on myself for hairdressers that would cover my liability to this. And um I was thinking about doing, you know, once a month haircuts for kids Saturday a month. So I'll dedicate the whole day if I have to. Um I was going

014to maybe for appointments. I'd probably just set up an email address and I'll take care of my appointments. Only thing really I would be looking for school would be a place to do this. And it would be for all students. It would not be a financial space. It wouldn't be anything that anybody would have to feel like they would be ashamed to come and see a friend to get a haircut. Also, it'd be for anybody. It'd be for all all students. So, um I I'm going to ask if there's any questions or comments only because it is a proposal that is on the agenda. Yeah. Normally during public comment, we don't entertain questions, but because this is a proposal before the board, I did tell Nikki it would be okay to ask the board members

015have questions. So, if people have questions, feel free to jump in. We do have an item later on our agenda. Um, we didn't move that one up. Um, we can have some discussion about the proposal, but if you have questions for for Nikki, I think she's probably not going to stay for the entire meeting. So, if we ask those questions now and if we have questions of administration, we can do that during our discussion. And the other would is if possibly there's a way that the school could help because I can't do it all but if there's like I don't know when any flyers would go home at the end of the year if we could put something in the flyers at the end of the year or if there's any mailers that go out

016to kids who teachers are and I see in your proposal you're talking about starting in late August getting ready for back to school kind of thing. Okay. I've done it twice. [Music] That's great. Yeah. Which would give us time to work out. I do appreciate your thorough letter. Um I think things like this when they come forward, it's like I don't know what to ask, right? Like I don't know what's missing. I don't know what to ask. I don't know what I don't know. But the one thing that came to my head is like, oh, do you need liability insurance? You know, being that you're doing that, but it's in there. And I do appreciate that you put that in there. Um and knowing that you have that experience like want to make sure that

017things are covered on our district would be um involved with that and that they be a part of it being under our roof. So I do appreciate the way that people are making appointments. Would kids be making appointments on their own or would their parents be the ones communicating? Parents would Yeah, that's the only part that I haven't quite worked out is um I I think I would request that a parent comes. Okay. Just like I'd say no different than in a salon, but I have like teenagers coming in my salon all the time. But parents, but I think for this in particular, I would probably prefer a parent. total communication. Look like I don't want to be sued over a free haircut. Yes. I think my initial reaction is certainly you treat it like

018a salon and you're not there to give care or anything. You're getting haircut. So it's a trans, you know, it's a free transaction, but it's still a transaction when the parent is in charge of their child. So that makes a lot of sense to me. And I think there a really good job. Okay. Any other questions from board members? And it's hard to get appointments, especially outside of school hours. Yeah. Well, we'll we'll have our full discussion when we get to that item on our agenda later tonight and then we can administration. We really appreciate Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. the consent agenda. Number six, there are um minutes for board members to review from previous meetings, um invoices and receipts, of course, and budget documents. Kyle, is there anything that you'd like to

019call to our attention on the invoices or receipts? Uh the invoices 28290 for imprint. That's the $2,400 that was for the chairs for the staff for staff appreciation week. And then if you see the one on the next page 28 298 that is software epic creations of software through the common school fun and I didn't know what this one was I ask 28396 on page 13 that's our leasing for our copers. It's $194. That's a quarter bill. And in receipts, we did receive our payments for taxes from P County. And we got a small refund from 941 for $3.13. That's our when we paid uh income tax to the federal state on behalf of our employees. They kic $33 back to us. Why? Yeah, that's all right. Um, we have um for our contracts and

020hiring, we have um a contract for Marcus Canelius, our new 612 principal. Um contract for Crystal Salah for band and Megan Peterson for 4K. Anything you guys want to talk about there? We're excited about all three. Excellent. Um, some summer coaching contracts for middle school, softball, and middle school baseball. And then retirements and resations. Lauren Johnson, our 4K teacher, and Lisa Matson, our vocal music. Lauren's done a great job for us this year. Her job that she's going to is much closer drive for her. And Lisa Matson's done a wonderful job for us. was a big um we have recognition of donations this month. We have uh crosswalk community church. A big thank you to them for subway trays um that were provided during teacher appreciation week. And then also a big thank you to

021our PTO for sponsoring the Rise and Shine coffee truck and the trail mix bar that I hear was a big hit. Um such a great idea and always good to keep our Um so a big thank you to both of those donations from this month. If there are no um questions, can I get a motion to approve the consent agenda, please? I have a second. All in favor? Any opposed? All right, consent agenda is approved. We are on to administrative reports. All right. Um, Kyle, you want to start us off tonight? Oh, wait. We have We have six minutes before I did mention I went to the word to talk to the joint finance committee like two or three minutes worth of what I think that would be the state budget and there was maybe

022about a dozen superintendents there and stuff but we were pushing for 60% of the special ed was good to go there see those folks and keep on their heels that we need to do something so What I thought last week's evening of excellence was really something. $96,000 for 20 graduates, not counting the friends and scholarships for the ones that are going to tech school. That's amazing. support. Yeah, the evening of excellence is very Yeah. Uh, in regards to acknowledgements for donations, I also want to give a shout out to Chief Braden and then from the village for donating their time to make that our bikual bike rode off not a hitch. We don't pay them for their time at all coming in and they do what's really great for our kids in our community. So,

023uh huge shout out to them. Uh if anybody's not busy, tomorrow night is the 57th annual kindergarten circus. Uh circ should be a lot of fun. And uh it's uh want to also give a shout out to the volunteers that helped the elementary field event go without a hitch including our very own Harry and the hurricane that was happening that day. Yes. Uh but lots of great things happening to come to a close. will pause. Okay, can you hear us? Good. Good. Thank you. How's the volume? Can you turn it up? I'm at peak volume. I think Kyle's gonna try and turn it up on. Excellent. Thanks. Feel free to go about your business. I'm in no rush. Just I was enjoying hearing about the activities. I think that's a TV remote somewhere around there.

024Can you say a couple things again? Yeah. Good evening. Don't judge my face, please. Okay. Good. All right. We're good. Thank you. All right. Hi, Darren. My name is Carrie and I'm the president of the Frederick School Board. Welcome. Thank you for being part of our meeting tonight. I will let you go ahead and introduce yourself to the team. Great. Good evening. My name is Darren Seers. I'm a project manager for school perceptions. I'm in my third year of that role. Prior to that, I worked for the same school district for 27 years. I was born and raised in Lake City, Minnesota, right across the river. Red wing area but then I went to Slayer which is kind of a bedroom community of Milwaukee district of 3500 kids. I started as high school counselor and

025was elementary principal high school principal and then I spent a third of my career the last nine years as superintendent and I got familiar with school perceptions because I used their staff satisfaction survey. I used their community survey where we did a $43 million project to remodel all five of our schools, secure entrances, all that kind of work performing arts center. We never thought the community would want surprising we did a custom survey actually where we sent survey all said you from us within our control as we reopen postmic and that turned into a really good and became such a fan of the transparency of the survey process engaging in the community position at a time where I needed to be more mobile serving this region of Wisconsin background. Are you ready for me to

026present our Yes. I was go I'll let you talk a bit. We're interested in knowing what our community wants and what our how our staff is doing is our two areas that we're looking at. You sent two proposals to those. So go ahead and tell us about each of those. Yeah. And I actually embedded within the PowerPoint one other survey that the board may have interest in. Again, there's understand there's no pressure, but I just want you to understand the of what we can provide you within the company here. So is my power showing up? It is now. It might be now. Y great. So these are these proposals are most likely for next fall in my heart. I would say that's We are still, for your information, we are still squeezing in staff surveys,

027but it's getting so tight at the end of the year. It's getting harder and harder, but we are doing a few um still these last couple of weeks. So, um again, a little bit about us. I would be your project manager. We also have Rob on our team who's a research director. He has studied 23 years of data within this country. This company trends all kinds of data that you can use your results in context around so you know it's not just a Frederick issue related to other districts that have asked the same types of questions and then I know you did business with us back in 2017 2018 most likely that was Bill Fostered the company back in 2003 so a little bit about us that are newer to the board we're an independent

028Wisconsin based research. We conducted over three million staff, student, parents, and community surveys for school improvement. And we help more than a thousand districts now. Actually, it's up to 1350 districts in all 50 states and five foreign countries with strategic planning kind of like the survey that Kyle and I are talking. That's kind of what we're most widely known for. Interestingly enough, the two growing product in our company is the staff survey that I'm going to talk to you about tonight. As we talk about that community survey, we often get asked why would I survey my community? Well, it's a healthy way to educate your community members on the district, but also for you to gather data to understand your community members educational priorities and if it comes to facilities or operations, your financial priorities.

029Um, If it happens to be a referendum of some kind, you can establish tax tolerance so that people know what the cost is of the things you're seeking in decide if or when a referendum should take place. And every survey we give, we don't just stop at, hey, we need your money or we need your input. We also ask basic overall satisfaction questions to gauge how you're doing on key areas like communication management educational excellence those types of things we've asked those thousands of times we have a deep comparison data to say okay this is how your data culture Wisconsin not standardized testing required by the state. So bottom line is community survey people are more likely to support you in your future planning if they understand the plan and you're giving them voice. You're

030giving them a voice in creating the plan giving them a voice establishing priorities. Um what's different about us compared to survey is we are not a random sample company statistically reliable absolutely a process that has statistical reliability. We're very passionate about making sure every member of your community has the opportunity to take the survey. So we do survey almost the methodology of mailing the survey to every in your district. the best mailing list possible from you or on your behalf and let every household fill it out to us. Some of the other companies out there try to gather that same data via phone. We have found a good answer and quite honestly we data from district to district. We had a record year and a half. So many districts have financial needs, so many have

031facility needs. Providing a handheld paper is making a big time. People appreciate having something they can hold on to. They can flip through when they have time as opposed to being a link that they may get to come back to. Our [Music] surveill response rates because people like Hold it, feel it, p it. So, who takes the survey? Every member of your community. How do they do it? But once they get it in their hand, they can take it online with a QR code or go to our web link or they can do it paper, pencil, fill it out, mail it back to our main office where we have our administrative team input and load it into our server with all your other results. webcial and highly customiz and Um the way it's confidential is

032we send it to the printer in the mail emails only one time. So there's no opportunity for people to b write an introductory letter. Sounds like you looks like you logos on it saying, "Hey, we'll reach out to you. We'll work on this later if we decide you want to partner together. What's the message? Why are we reaching out? What are we wanting to learn? This is more of a planning survey. So what we even though it's highly anonymous we do ask their age. We'll ask what municipality they live in your data. This is situation wanted to know how different towns and township are employs. We communication preferences really healthy question for you to ask just for dayto-day operations and if you decide to take the survey results back to the community with a formal

033report they'll tell you how they want to hear from you as I said district newspapers may be making a bit of a comeback as people get more smart so as we talk about a planning survey While I said it's customized, what advice would you have for a new superintendent? What are some priorities? You can say to them, what are the four or five areas you want the district to focus on for the future? We within a list of 20 to 30 because you know very well as leaders and board members your budget's not limitless. So we try to task the taxpayers with what's most important to you. This is a sample report we did for another district where no surprise tech is really making a comeback really making a searching trades getting excited about the

034money they can make a fouryear school getting into apprentichip as electrician as a plumber something along those lines but also life skills are on people's minds kids come out of school with ability to be independent um living life of their own recruiting and retaining high quality staff across a lot of districts amongst the community the lack of people going into education these days. So this is just a sample of how you can disagregate it by staff 75% of your community that doesn't work for you and doesn't have kids in the system that you can do what graduate skills graduate success what does graduate success look like financial literacy is it civics citizenship is it more training career techn technology, technical education or technology and priorities, mental health. We have a variety of questions. So you

035wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel. We could draw from where we successfully typing districts to you and districts as big as Cedar Rapid,000 or Green Bay or we've done these kinds of surveys as well. frames to keep in mind. Uh just to give you a ballpark, if it's something to go on a ballot, we need to get you the data in the resolution deadline if you're looking to ask for operational dollars or capital dollars for building. But once the survey is written about an eighte turn from sending it to the printer two to three weeks two to three weeks we have to survey the community like people surveys on the [Music] weekend and then it takes us about two to three weeks to compile all of our findings and get you a report for tell

036you this is what we learned from the credit uh with our survey tool. So just to give you a ballpark idea, um if you were to approve a proposal, want to engage in writing planning survey to get feedback, you probably start writing in August, early September, try to get it approved by the end of September. to the printer survey during October once homecom so that by December you know what your next steps are with program changes or whatever it is we decide to gather feedback on your community again our goal is going data six months ahead. We found that a year forget what they said in the survey and then it kind of gets old but six months gives us enough time for you to be with Let me just stop there. Any questions about

037our community survey before I our staff. What's the process for the through the process of survey design? How does that how does that process work? Do you guys come and and meet with us to talk about the different options or talk about priorities or what we're trying to get to try and figure out what questions to ask? Yeah, great question. esting. It was me because it was building the three buildings and grounds members that I met with the survey company said this is what we want to learn. This is what we want to know. And then Bill Foster the owner who ironically in our community he wrote the survey and puts in front of us every few days until we felt what we were trying to learn. So there's a number of ways we can

038do that. with the board with Minnesota where we just crazy story they surveyed the community said it was too close to call really right in the line of support they passed by $32 million totality every Some other times the board will delegate that to the superintendent will write the superend and the board members will critique it feedback and the suit is kind of the lith I guess I didn't realize until I joined the team. We set the company [Laughter] records they still good. But then I just had the board members who just really really about question and it just took a lot of drafts until they're finally comfortable asking the question. One thing I always say is whatever you want us to referend to. So this is the time to vet anything you ever wonder.

039But you as a board can be as involved as you have the time and energy to devote to it. We've done 6 a.m. meetings with we've done it at night via Zoom or they delegated to the superintendent and two weeks they'll have a special session where they'll review the latest survey until they're comfortable saying thank you. And for you to think about if there's a local that you trust and really want to do business locally, we encourage that. That's why it's not part of our proposal because you may have a printer that you just have allegiance to in my local There's no way we weren't going to do business locally. But we have also a printers we use regularly all through our projects all over the country. We provide them. So no preference to us.

040Um you just let us know you want to use three of our best and you choose the company that you think best. So we're very nimble that way. Same thing with mailing list. We have regular news. If you don't, we have a vendor for $150 on it. So we can personally every Okay. Thank you. I think right now the community survey, we just want to know what community thinks of our school, right? Yeah. I think we'd have to have some conversation about how How often, Darren, if you do a community survey, is there any guidance or rule of thumb that you guys use for how often a board should be thinking about going back to the community with additional future survey? Like what the cadence, what's a good cadence for community survey? I think it

041just depends on what is talked about. I talked to Kyle. I got the impression that it was mainly just feedbackunications feedback how things are going back some of those kinds of things. I would say don't go back until you have some time to move on what they've already told. get some of those some of those priorities in place that they matter and then maybe the next two years from now thanks to you feedback we got these programs in place for another round what's next year maybe every three cycle of self depends on the stamina district's budget leadership team has for the changes that you heard in the first one. What you don't want to do is go back so well again for you would be educational educationally irrelevant to do that on your behalf until

042you have time and it takes time to make changes. I'm going to talk about the same thing this don't do it again until you had time to changes that we survey how you feel about the chang nice cycle continuous improvement. Thank you. That's helpful. continue to think about community survey questions, but then I can show you the staff surve. Like I said, this is with the talent pools being shallower than they probably ever tell you a little story. my first year as elementary principal in 2004. I had a first grade opening made 685 cand22 my last year as superintendent we had a first grade opening we had 22 that's how different desires to become a teacher what it takes to be a successful teacher so my point is staff engagement getting feedback from your staff

043how they're feeling about working for is a very very powerful tool for staff retention and we're just doing this all over the country, Virginia, Texas, New York City, but the core of our business is Wisconsin and Minnesota. So, we have a staff checking survey. That's our most popular survey. We have a new employee checking survey. We have employee exit surveys say what's going on why are you leaving that part their standard practice or we can customize survey for you because that's one of the beauties of learn you want like they did for me survey um the reports you get um they range we always give you an executive summary of find one summarize what we learned. Um and generally speaking, most boards and superintendents ask for a question by question breakdown of how each question

044on the scor that we've asked this enough that we can say okay your community on your communication of this this and and it has you at this percentile rate just like standardized test to compare to other districts that ask the same question the staff survey the same. We got hundreds and hundreds of districts that are server that we can compare the the scores your staff gives you and compare them to let's say scale where you are on a zero to 99 percentile compared to other districts to your tech department so they can teach manage kids all day and then we districts that we work with doually their annual self improvement unveil every year. The staff survey is a very healthy thing to do once a year and then do it always that same time of

045year. Start the same and have that same mental mindset and then you ask them implement a couple of changes. Go back and ask them again those take root. What else? feedback and uh I'll just talk about Tomahawk tomahawk on the job and every year does the same process continuous improvement surveying his staff students and his parents annually and implementing their strategic plan we provide that's where the longitudinal report comes in because once you have a year on your back and say where can we improve based on what we learned last year what areas haven't changed what areas have regressed but the bottom line is I don't view the surveys of the staff parents or students today we're talking about the staff survey as a we're looking for problems you start trying to identify your strengths

046you want to say where are we doing really well where are people particularly happy so protect those areas, maintain those areas, and hold those up as a source of pride and understand why they're going so well. So, it's it's not just an autopsy looking for illness. It's also a a wellness check to see what things are really driving things we got to be proud of. Just to give you an example kind of data when I talk about the executive summary this is the easiest one to show you because it's clean all the questions that we ask them into one of five areas academic areas how engaged they feel they feel valued heard like they the staff feel the student experience through the eyes of the staff experience through their own how are they feeling and

047this is a district example of how we did a twoyear study so the first column is what they last year and then after reviewing the results in what percentile range they have each of those indexes roughly seven or eight questions in so we'll break it down question by question do I feel supported when I send a student to the office um does the staff development give me the tools I need to work with kids in my class all kinds of different questions are in the survey we'll tell you how you score something interesting to see our rating scale that's not a typo we ask them on a scale 1 to five are going strongly agree. We don't have a notes to have an opinion. We only want to measure agreement. We'll ask a question like

048our practices in the district are fairly agree because everything will range and then you won't have data. We will give you very data one way of how each of the questions is going again previous test results all the time with your district leaders tell you where you're above average and areas where you're below average. This is another example of the executive summary. We'll identify for you what are your three strong areas. This is a district where relationship great technology department is practic ask question how's that So we always have a closing question for me the former principal this my favorite question to how likely are you to recommen district or the building is place of employment. And again, we've asked this thousand times. will be able to tell you how your scale your score recommends

049in the district or the areas most need compile those those comments for you and we can report those back to you as well. We can also do custom questions. Maybe there's something you just always wanted to ask the community for comments or the staff question was very encourage you to stay. that comment district really localities. And then one last plug here survey we run we had a relationship with the national association and Wisconsin association of school boards. That's why I did write a proposal and it'll ask you all kinds of questions about where the board are priorities and then summary report $250 and tell you how your boards in Wisconsin as far as prior think you as a completely member board. Is that correct? But it's compiled results where you are just another service we

050offer to ser that tool, that tool is already on our radar and something that we so we did attend um the presentation at the school board convention um about Yep. So, and we've talked as a board and we just had some board turnover with the most recent election. So, we've just been waiting to get into the summer with our newly seated board to tackle that tool, but it's absolutely on our radar. That was really a neat exercise with the school association. That's why we don't charge board leadership so my boss is interested in making lots of money service. So question when you do the staff survey I guess I was familiar with doing it like in late April May is that typical you think? Yeah. 70% 70 to 80% of our districts do it in

051March, April or May. Like we always say, April or May was the February right after holiday when you go to work when you get home from work holiday. I got you March, May. But beautiful thing about that is it gives leadership that time to look at the data. I'll write your reports, summarize it for you, tell you where you're driving, plays study then you can use that May, June, July time to prioritize what next steps are. What ends up happening a lot of our leaders, they use that as their kickoff message. Hey, we surveyed you in the spring. Welcome back. Welcome to the newse are the target areas for this year and we heard you. We're listening to your data. what we do here based on what you told us in our staff survey and

052then set a couple inpvices during their money but didn't add their IT devices running. So district are never exactly the same. So that's the idea to do some summer prior goal set. That was the question I had. So thanks for asking. some of our district I've seen districts very effectively launch in October right after homecoming and get data back by Christmas and then their administrators try to implement some improvement strategies January February see and then back so Hastings two years ago right across the river that they really did with their looking at their data and they were too anxious they didn't want to wait in October let's figure out on your mind. Just stay away from the holidays. We want a high response build or early release or wherever you squeeze in your training. Give

053them a half an hour at least 10 minutes. It's a 30 question survey. Give them 10 minutes within their work. Okay. I just had a district this morning Belgium. They're having a staff meeting at 7:45 in their desk. So we want to be that any questions for So I think our process we wanted to hear from you. We've just been getting started with this discussion. You know I think we've been interested in more about how to do surveys the right way and that's why we wanted to talk to professionals and understand that a bit better. Um, so I think we're going to continue to have some conversation as a board and probably have this issue if we're going to have a proposal or if we're going to have a decision by the board to do

054this, it would be probably on next month's agenda. Correct. Yeah. Right. I'll put a place down. So, just let me know when you're ready and I'll be customizy. Thank you so much. I remember a little bit. No, I think I was mostly bouncing back and forth with the curriculum hat. Um, Kelly Fischer has been helping me in the other building. Now is the time of year where we do the renews, right? Consumables and any curriculum licenses that all needs to be renewed. Um, I was working on a curriculum review cycle because when we passed the recommend all content areas at the same time, we can't probably possibly do that again, right? So, we have to get into a cycle. So, um, that's something I'm working on in the background. Um, all of our core content

055is, uh, finished being renewed. So, one thing that Jessica Richtor and I, she's our reading specialist. One thing that we're looking is the types of resources we have that are not consumable, right? Like it would be great if we didn't have these annual purchases every single year. Um especially with our intervention and progress monitoring tools. So trying to like work smarter not harder type of thing. Um since act 20 the state pays for 4K to third grade Ames web screener. We have had in the district. Those of you who have been around for a while, um we need to look at that is up for renewal this year. And so I'll be bringing all that information to the June board meeting because we have to decide if we're going to have two different systems, right?

056We, you know, as web through third grade and then it switches to FastBridge for the rest of the grades, right? So there's a a lot that we're looking at right now and certainly in terms of cost because the state is paying for 4K for reading. So, um, those systems are changes, right? But that's kind of where we're at and I'll I'll bring that to the to the meeting. But a lot of curriculum stuff happening right now, right? Yeah. Hey, I nailed it. Um, just trying to seal the deal with teachers and planning their makeup time, their makeup day. Then, of course, next year's contract has those two flex days. So, we want to be really intentional with those so they're not just like decorating, right? Like we want to really get some work done with

057those. Y certainly work to do and you're will the June one will definitely rather than pockets, right? Because it's where teachers are available. Um, but I think the two flex days attached to next year's contract will be more teams for sure. Great level content. I don't really give Marcus to say right now, but so much to talk about. There's a lot a lot of A lot happening in the background. I was kind of hoping it was June, right? We're almost there. So close. I'll get there. I'll get caught up. All right. And then our biggest administrative report. Yeah, I made it through my third day back. I did just come back Monday, but yes, very much hit the ground running. did not write anything in the board report. I did. I wrote something. Thank you.

058Hit the ground running. All right. Anybody have any questions for any of our administrators on reports? Good job surviving. Good job. All right. On to are board member reports and governance. Um I don't we don't have any committee reports this time around. I think policy still just they're putting in the work and we love it. We appreciate that. Um and then u we do I do want to mention um just calling to everyone's attention the summer learning symposium that's in Stevens Point in July. I don't know if anybody is thinking about attending that. But if you are thinking about attending that um communicate with Jessica she can help you out with registration. Yeah, I'll make a note that I don't know. I know that I cannot go this and then next we have May. So

059we're doing our reorganization of board members. Um so according to our policy statute we need to um consider reorganization of the board. We have our current positions forget it. Um, obviously, um, I'm currently serving as president, Chris is our vice president, Rene is our treasurer, and Emily is our clerk. Um, we can make changes. We can keep it the same. We can we can tackle this however people want to. Okay. Some you do that either have me do it or her do it or any of you do it. Doesn't have to run. Yeah. But it doesn't I make the motion free. Rene, would you like to make the motion for somebody to We will start with the election of president. I will take any nominations from board members. Nomin are there nominations? Any other nominations?

060And I passing that car. [Laughter] I don't think I can do it or not. Okay. Well, thank you very much. Um, so we have Chris as our vice president. I will entertain. Can I Can we just do a You could do it all in one. Sure. You're the president. Can I make a I would love for you to make it be a motion or I think a nomination first and then we see if there's any other I would like to nominate Chris as vice president. I'm gonna keep going. I would like to nominate me as clerk and I would like nominate as treasure. All right. Any other nominations in those spots? Any other nominations in those spots? Any other nominations? All right. I would like to um we can pass by unanimous ballot to have

061those assignments in those spots. We don't know. We don't need to That's okay. You like it? I appreciate that. All right. So, we're reorganized. That's good. Um, the next thing is committee assignments. So, um, the board president does does a point to committee assignments. Um, I had conversation with folks about board appointments and committee assignments because I want for people to be working on things that they like to work on and they're interested in working on rather than being um told. So, um, based on those conversations, I mean, our policy committee is and Chris, we're going to keep that the same. We certainly don't want to that apple cart. They're working hard and doing wonderful work. Um for our education committee, we're actually gonna stick with the dream team, Renee and Chris, together. Um there's

062some stuff for that education committee to tackle that we think will really um be helped by the expertise and wisdom that they bring. Um for personnel and finance committee, I will stay on that committee and Emily is going to join me on that committee. Um her thoughts and wisdom around those personnel issues. Um, and then our facilities committee will Emily will stay on that committee and we'll add April, our US board member, to that committee as well. All right. So, those are our committee assignments. The next thing is that we need a we need to appoint a delegate to attend the CISA meeting at CISA 11 which is going to be held on June 2nd. I have been the delegate in the past. I am not available on June. I have to So, I'm going

063to ask if there's anybody else that would be willing to be our delegate. I can talk you through what the meeting is. It's super simple. It's not a complicated evening. They usually have good snacks. Um, if there's anybody else that I don't want to meet right now because I've got a lot to or not my job. So I don't otherwise I would totally take that. If it comes to June 2nd and somebody can't go and I'm available, I would be happy to go to CISA and do that, but I don't want to commit to and there are districts at times that don't have someone attend and the world does not fall apart if we don't have someone that can make it that night. There are often districts that don't have someone that's not [Laughter] it

064is a diff it's a it can be a difficult night. I mean not a it's not a difficult night. It's hard in the very beginning of June to tackle things. I mean what happens if I'm appointed and then I don't Like does that look really bad? Terrible. There's about two of I mean because I'm happy to like like I said I don't currently have something on the calendar but I I'm waiting to hear back on a couple things. So any burning desire to come to visit? No can't do that. That's the first day. I think it would be totally fine if if you're willing to be the delegate, but if you can't take it, it is okay. That that's just what I'm like. So, I'll go to my calendar. I can go and do that.

065I like I said, I just want know that. So, we'll need to make a motion. Are you comfortable making a motion? So, I'll make a motion to appoint to be our delegate for the annual meeting. All in favor? All right, we're on to 8F. Um this is about appointing a delegate for the um state convention for the delegate assembly. Um that's the um state convention that's held in January 2026. Um we'll have I mean we'll certainly have time to revisit this if people's schedules change. I have done this in the past. I'm plenty nerd enough to want to do it again if no one wants to battle me for it. I really I really enjoy it. I really enjoy the delegate assembly. I cannot tell you why, but I learn a lot when I go

066and I think it's fun and it's just nerdy. It's a time for our district gets a vote along with all the other districts on the kinds of things that WB is going to support. It's not they're not writing legislation or doing anything. They're just talking about the topics and how they're going to to think about those topics. So, it's the one time when we get the same vote as every other district in the state, which is kind of But that's probably because the first year I went, there was super big drama at the meeting. There haven't been any other times I've done. The first year I went there was super all in favor. Any opposed? Next one is consideration of possible action regarding the 2526 board calendar. We do need to make a couple of

067adjustments. Um I think there's a calendar October 22 that's the fourth one because I have a meeting the week earlier and then January. So just those are still Wednesdays. So everyone is okay with those changes. I would like I'll make a motion to accept the new calendar with the changes as proposed. All in favor? Any opposed? All right. So, if everyone can please, we'll get that version of the calendar uploaded. Now that it's been approved, it'll get uploaded. Um, so please just go back and update your personal calendars within your dates. Um, those will be on the Um, all right. We do not have any policies to consider tonight. Um, coming soon though, I think the policy committee is getting close. There's going to be policies for policy committee. The next meeting we have, Ed

068can be here for in person. He's available the 9th, the 10th, the morning of the 12th, and the 19th to come here because I want him to come and walk us through act 20. So you can look at your calendar and pick one of those days that works during the day. So 9th and 10th they could be available in the afternoons. Okay, I'll ask for think. All right. I prefer 9 or 10 to get going on. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'll call Ed tomorrow. All right. Now we are on to our action items. So get ready. Um the first one is consideration and possible action regarding the 2526 course registration guide. I'm gonna politely head out. for all conference meeting. We thank you for your time. Thanks. Course descriptions look basically the course we'll have for

069our preschool students for next year. Just practice making you guys aware of what we're offered. Yes. Yeah. That's current right now. Is there anything any significant change to the course description guide? The largest would be the fact that Monday night luck approved the egg teacher contract and so we have egg here next year for three hours a day for each of the three trimesters. of those courses and there may be some tweaking based on his skill level, what classes he offers. Egg teachers either like animal science, plant science or industrial arts. They usually have a strength in one of those. And so he was he came in on Tuesday after approved on Monday. He came in on Tuesday and met with Emily study and kind of have his generic placeholder till it was approved. we

070had a candidate. So that's a blessing for us. So that would be the biggest change. Okay. Is there any guide that any staffing concerns that you're having at this point? No, that could change this. as of today. No, but well, I mean, we're hunting for a math teacher. Yeah, there's a lot. I guess nothing that's not normal for 2025. Okay, if I can get a motion to approve the course presented. I will second. All in favor? Any opposed? Approved. Um, next is the consideration of possible action regarding the 2526 occupational and physical therapy contract with St. Corey Regional Medical Center. Um, I believe this is just a renewal of the contract. Yeah, maybe J how much the person's here currently is one day a week. Yeah, our is here one day a week. Um I

071believe right now it's about it's to be about close to four hours. Um she's phenomenal. She's been with us for many many years. Please let me keep her. Well, and our goal is that they supply us with the same person. Yes. And she is Yep. Since she Yeah. I should also mention she joins uh evaluations and IEPs meetings virtually as needed. So she's part of that as well. And do we have do do we have all the time from her that we want? Yep, we do. And that's flexible a bit. Yep. Sorry. If her case were to increase, like we have more students that need OT, um, she would just increase her time and then we would adjust. Yeah. Can I get a contract? I'll make that second. All in favor? Any opposed? All right.

072Contract approved. Next is the consideration. possible action regarding the renewal of the 202526 early childhood shared service contract with Unity. You want to talk about this is a renewal and we only use it if we have a student that needs the services. So, it's great to have them as a partner. There's no cost. We don't have any student need, but if we do, they're there for us. I'll make a motion to approve that contract. Second. All in favor? Any opposed? Next is consideration and possible action regarding the 2526 kinship of P County mentoring program. Um this is a $2,000 contribution on the part of the district. It's a program we've had in the district for many years. It's a great program $2,000. It doesn't cover the cost of the program. The county does the 2000

073just helps basically buy into commitment. I'll make a motion. All in favor? Any oppos? Next is the consideration of possible action regarding a 10 cent increase to all meal prices for the 2526 school year. Kyle, do you want to make any comments about the Yeah, DPI has a form you're supposed to fill up annually for most you can increase is 10 cents. Amy Herman called deep the size of our district. We didn't have to apply it but our fund our fund 50 fund 50 is in the red to transfer from 10. So as cost food goes up we got to at least keep pace and those kids that are reduced still get reduced for those rates. So just a dime for lunch more cost of food. expect to see this every year for any questions

074for Kyle. Can I get a motion? All in favor? Any opposed? Okay. Next is the consideration of possible action regarding the 2526 and 2627 co-op application with luck for boys baseball. So this is to continue that co-op. Those sports co-ops um are things that we have to renew them and they they do work on those twoear sort of schedules. So everything's done pretty far in advance. Can I get a motion to approve second? All in favor? Any opposed? Kyle, do you know what this? I don't know. They're meeting on Monday night. ask on Tuesday. I just assume they can't help baseball. Yeah. No, that's a good question. Um 10 G, we had moved to the earlier part of the meeting, Debbie and um so we did already vote on that. So we're on to 10H.

075Consideration and possible action regarding the 2526 North Lakes Dental Agreement. North Lakes comes on site and helps amilies care. There's no cost to the district service. Any discussion or questions? I'll make a motion to approve that agreement. I'm just checker. Oh, wow. Okay. It's a really cool program. Okay. So, I have made a motion to approve that agreement. Can I get a second? Second. Thank you. All in favor? Any opposed? Um, next is consideration and possible action regarding a change to the 2526 graduation date. We had a um we had a conflict with the previous date. So we need to look at options. Yeah, that sectional track meet that I I proposed was sectional tracking. We'd have some seniors that would be have to make a choice. So as an admin team, we got together

076and we thought the best date was Sunday, May 31st or Friday, May 22nd. I know these last couple weeks here are kind of difficult for the courses which have juniors and seniors in them. Seniors That last week for seniors was pretty fluffy for us educationally. So we're trying to push it back. Did say we had Sunday graduation years ago. I personally don't like Sunday graduation waiting for it, but it's it works. You know, it's just a personal preference. Um from a pair perspective, I think a Friday night is nicer than a Sunday. Just um you know, gatherings. I mean, my preference would be the 22nd, but I don't know why. Sorry. Did you say the 22nd? 22. Yeah. I don't know why we didn't The 29th would be the sectional track and then the Right.

077Right. moved it up to the 22nd pushed it to the Sunday Yeah. And I think the Friday the 22nd is the weekend of Memorial Day. So it is the Friday of Memorial Day. Um I don't know when I was in high school. That would be really hard. Well, that was a strain on like the kids that are in the choir in the band, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I'm sort of partial to the Friday date. Obviously, I don't I'm not going to have a graduate. Um but I I just I think that families in our community are used to being able to use the weekend of graduation for their parties and having a Friday graduation ceremony makes that a little more possible. Not that we don't have students that have their party before.

078Yes, we do. But um did um I mean administration have any thoughts on that? We just are trying to push it back as far as possible at school after the 31st. Do you think it will be hard with other local schools having their weekend before that? Like I mean two weeks before like is that issue? I don't know. I got the program from the paper which show everyone was on the 16th, 17th, 23rd. There was quite a few. I guess I guess it'd be easier on different days. So if someone wants to go to one of the other ones, they can go too, right? Because there was how many on last Friday night? How many this Friday night? One night, one time. I don't know. There's There's Whichever one you pick right there exactly right.

079I think this Friday You could push it back even farther to June something. Well, I know the school's graduating June this year. I think the big schools on a Sunday. I'm I think Friday is probably a good way to go and we can I think if if part of our goal over time is to to try and push that a little further for seniors to to stay with us a little longer. I think that's a conversation we can have over coming years and figuring out ways to do that kind of preparing people for that. And we might see like Memorial Day is going to jump here pretty soon. Do you know what I mean? Memorial Day is really these next year. Yeah, it's always different. All right. So, can I get a motion for Friday,

080May 22nd? I'll make a motion. Can I get a second? All in favor? Any opposed? It's a personal thing. So, I'll have that conversation outside of our meeting. 16 is important to me. Yes. All right. Next is consideration and possible action regarding the use of grant monies for um the upgraded bomb systems and cameras. Kyle, we have a grant of which 20% of the money can be used for school safety um which is $60,000. And Brandon has got a quote to add some cameras, update some door access. Yeah. So, and fob access doors and this quote is for somebody to come in under 60 because that's what we have to price,000. I didn't go back to the drawing board because he had like 68 They said, "No, you got to cut 9,000 out to get

081us under that 60." So, yeah. So, it's and CWS is really really great. Well, they've worked with our system before, so they know it works all together. And would the would the work happen over the summer? Yes, that that's the goal. Yep. Yeah. It would be uh probably end of July, August. Yep. Okay. 60,000 59,000 chang I any opposed? All right, motion carried. Thank you. Um, next is consideration and possible action regarding um some a plan for staff recognition and years of service. I think that you have a paper at your chair about an item um that can be used to um celebrate years of service milestones for staff. Do you want to talk a little? Yeah. Admin team, we were discussing the June in service day and we recognize people every five, 10, 15

082years and so on and over the years we've done different things all the time and then it gets inconsistent. Some people say I got nothing or I got a sheet of paper or whatever. So looking for a system. So we wanted to come up with a consistent program and so Aaron and Don Don Owens and myself were digging around looking and we came up with kind of like the stackable plaque here and you get whatever it is. And then we thought to be fair on Jun service day we like give it to those who are reaching a mile school year 5 10 15 and then we know I've been here 22 years and I didn't get that. So then we'd like to get them caught up over the summertime and then just keep replenishing as

083we go. It's a little bit of an expense to get everyone caught up in the right number of blocks because a block is $22 or $23 depends how many you get how much it's on it you buy. It take $7,490 to get everyone up to speed. The good thing is we have it or we the client we'd be buying we'd be set for like four or five years because then the concern is what happens the business goes out of business and you can't get those right little blocks buy a whole we buy a whole bunch of blocks and personally I thought that $7400 you could knock it down by $992 if you took their individual name plate off the bottom but I think having your name associated with the district is kind of a nice

084touch But then we would have expense every year for this taken care of for quite a few years. I think it's kind of neat idea. And the reason I want to bring it to the board for approval is because if you guys approve it, then no matter who changes seats here, we have a system in place and then it's this is how Frederick does it. We don't every year say we got five years something different for 10 worry about it's done. I really like the idea of having something consistent and and then it becomes an opportunity for the admin to plan how those get presented so it's consistent and staff can be celebrated. I want them to feel good about those milestones. We feel good about those milestones and to me it makes sense to

085to put something behind that to to show them that we feel good about it. And we have money in two different supply accounts that's not been used. We do have funds available. It's not we spent a couple I had to do some dig. I will make a motion to approve that plan. Can I get a second? All in favor? Any opposed? Thank you very much. Um and then last one action items consideration and possible action regarding the proposal for free haircuts for students. April, we did have the um staff member who's making this proposal came and spoke with us at the beginning of the meeting during um the public comment just commenting that um she has noticed a need for our students. She would the only ask she's making from us as a district is

086that we provide space and an opportunity for her to do this on a weekend. Um that she would provide a way for for families to make an appointment with her and provide free haircuts for any student in the district. She's licensed. She's And she brought her own liability insurance. Insurance was my only question. She got that when she brought it up to me. Yeah, that was my only question. She went out and got it. So, I know she talked about having parents present like part of it feels like at a certain point like I I mean especially the little parents are going to bring them but I was thinking like if there's wigs, you know, maybe at a certain age the parent comes in for the first haircut with them and after that there's You

087know what I mean? Or one mom can bring her and her neighbor kids to, you know what I mean? Like maybe there's some sort of form just because I was thinking like once again after after the initial haircut, maybe there's some that that was only my thought too is there's a parent every haircut or once we agreed on like here's the style. Are we okay? That's what Yeah. I mean because they have to sign up for an appointment. So the adults will have to make the appointment. So I say you make an appointment. It's kind of like giving permission. Sure. The style of your haircut, the first one. Yeah. Yeah. But I was just going to say I mean I I feel like I would be comfortable of like, you know, after like after that

088agreement 14-year-old doesn't need mom take them. Right. Right. If they can get here, you know, yeah, that makes sense to me. And if the parent is part of the appointment process, that's sort of their approval. Yeah. Um is the scheduling appointment. So that was my only thing is just if we were I'm just like even like she could be like hey you don't want your kids you know administration will detect I think it's a super great idea Can I get a motion? Did I get a second? I second. All right. All in favor? Any opposed? All right. Thank you everybody. That was a lot of action items, but we got through them. Appreciate it. Um so we are there was already some discussion for the policy committee of their future um agenda items that policy

089is either going to be on the 9th or 10th depending on locking up with Edola and then facility I'd like there's dates in the evening when Carl's available of course he's available during the day as well but those are evenings he has if we could pick one of those a projects he wants to discuss with the committee. And then he also wants to have you go over to the shed and look at the shed to see what is all over there. And so I'm going to be on just like Yeah. Is that the only one? Yeah, you don't. Yes. So I didn't know if any of those evenings work. I would prefer to push it into fine. That's a Monday. Yeah, the second is on Monday. I can do as well. I'm okay with Yeah,

090I'm Yeah. Okay. What time and whatever times what time works for you guys? For me, it has to be at least after 5 in the evening for the childare and I ran into that tonight. After five. Yeah. Okay. And then nine or 10 either either. No, I'm fine as long as it's like I mean unless you Let's go for that one. Can we put it right at 5:00? Is that okay? Yeah. Tonight was just something else. That's okay. Okay. Monday the second. All right. And then our June regular board meeting is Wednesday, June 18th at p.m. So we will be back for a regular board meeting on June 18th. Those are all the current most current updated dates for the future agenda item or future meetings. We do have a close session um tonight, but

091we are going to go ahead and take a five minute break. One more thing we should do for meetings uh board working because we got here the meeting or after the June meeting is the 18th of June. I'm gonna say after this is our planning session. Yeah. That's okay. I just know how what we want to do. Yeah. So we want So are we looking How much time do you think we should all three hours? We're looking for a three hour block of time to do hours. What? What's that? I thought you literally said 40 hours. No, I said that. [Music] So, okay. So, you want I know you want to establish that tonight. date that is or if you you said we left to the June meeting is fine. I it's up to you

092guys. I just think scheduling wise for um I know for my life it would be easier if we didn't have that on the calendar before the meeting. Like we can schedule it tonight. We can schedule it tonight. I'd like it to take place after the June meeting if that's possible. July July sorry. Yep. Our board meeting in July is 23rd. It's a 16th like don't I just going to conference on the 23rd and I was like people can we look at something did you say you're out of town the week of June 23rd yeah that's out of Monday the 30th. Monday, June 30th. Yep. Does that work for you guys? Yeah, we do. But we were supposed to go to CISA that day. So, we'll be back. We spent a long time with each other

093that day. I registered. You say, "Are we riding in the car together?" Yeah, probably. I don't know. I mean, we can do it, but we'll be at CISA that day and then I don't I think it's Maybe you can brainstorm in the car. So then our three hours shorter. That sounds like a really good time. Yeah, I might drive separate. Wow. Okay. But yeah, June 30th. As long as it's Yeah, we can move it out there too because what time are you thinking of starting? I thought 8:00 would be our absolute latest work. All right. We got that many great ideas. We'll do a second meeting. All right. So, Monday, June 30th, that's three hours from 5 to 8. at the max. We might get done. I'm just saying I turn mushy. So, is it

094this book, right? You were talking about like you read it to like talk about how to kind of coordinate the Is this talk about the book? Um, yes, I can talk about the book. So, this is homework. This is this is homework for everyone. Um the the goal was to have the board read the book. As Kyle and I talked, we thought it would be great if administration would also read it as well. Um it's just really something that we hope can help provide some conversation as we look to do our work together as a board. This is just all about different styles of communication. And we could use the information in this book to learn something about each of us, how we communicate, how we like to be communicated with that might help our

095board function a little bit better. So that was the thinking. It's not super long. It's hopefully a fairly quick read. Um I think the hope and goal, the reason we wanted to have him here tonight is to give people an opportunity to hopefully read this before the board planning session. deadline. All right, I think we're ready to take a break now ahead of the session.

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