001To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Um, do we have any community comments other than the people that are scheduled to speak? >> Yes. >> Okay. You want to step forward? Um, >> sure. Tell us your name and your address and >> right here. Okay. >> Yep. And um public comment is three minutes long. >> Okay. I'll I'll make it three minutes. Um my name is Kathleen Harris. I live here in Do County. Um I'm here tonight because I understand that an acquaintance of mine, a student at Sebast has been banned from all sports for one year. I don't know what his transgression was, but I assume it was serious and very grave. I'm
002not suggesting that you don't have the right to set rules and to punish transgressions. I'm asking you to consider whether or not banning a child, and we are talking about a child, from positive, healthy activities for one year is the best way to address a teenager's stupid mistakes. Will this correct the behavior or push the teenager further into stupid mistakes? I speak as a parent of two children who made plenty of stupid mistakes while pushing my boundaries and deliberately breaking the rules. I made plenty of parenting mistakes, too. And I don't have a formula for perfect outcomes. I respect the job that you're doing and your commitment to good educational and behavioral outcomes for all your students. However, I am asking you to reconsider the one year no sports rule. Rather than taking away an
003experience that can keep kids out of trouble, provide them with positive role models and mentors and motivate them to be healthy. Will you consider an alternative? What about community service for a year with accountability and supervision? What about ride alongs with the police department or asking them to become a cadet at the fire department when appropriate? Maybe mandatory therapy or tutoring or mentor programs. We live in a county with dozens of volunteer opportunities. I have to believe there's a better way other than taking away a positive experience from a kid who made a dumb mistake. Multip dumb mistakes for all I know. I mean, it's I assume there's probably more than one kid that you've had to deal with this way. You are thoughtful people. I know that. And you're doing a really tough job.
004And I think you can find a better solution that is more likely to guide young minds toward positive outcomes and away from oppositional behavior with worse outcomes. In this life, we are lucky to if we can say that we influence even one person, right? And I sincerely hope that someday a student comes up to you and says that you've influenced their lives in a positive direction at a critical time when they're just kids. I thank you for what you're doing. And I failed to thank plenty of educators for the influence they had on me. So I thank you for that. You're making a difference. I'm simply asking you to reconsider what that difference is and what it can be. >> Thank you. I'll comment on that. Um, just to say um, our administration took that
005matter into consideration and have come to what they believe to be a favorable resolution for the student and their parents. So, you might want to check back with that family. >> Sure. >> Like I said, I don't I don't know the details. It just as a parent just >> struggling and we can't discuss the details yet but um >> I'm just saying that as a as a general rule I think that taking a positive activity away from a kid is probably not going to accomplish what you what you're trying to do here. >> Thank you. >> Um we will hear the presentation on the ultra classroom. While everyone, we can introduce ourselves. I'm Lily Snider. I'm the president of the Rotary Interact Club here at school. It's a fairly new club. This is our second
006year, but that's who I am. Um, I'm Sienna Kane. Um, I'm the vice president of the Rotary Intern Club and like kind of like the main leader of this project. And I'm Luna Ramirez and I've just done the financing on. Um, so pretty much outdoor classroom was something we started last year. Um, it last year was obviously our first year as a club. So it was more so getting a lot of funding in our account. So, a lot of fundraisers. We did grocery bagging through Tatics. We did DJing for the Satie Hawkins dance, which was a fun new kind of fundraising opportunity. But, um, last year we identified our one of the Rotary seven main focuses as protecting the environment and education and we thought that STA pool had such a wonderful facility here to
007embody that. So, we've kind of gone from that and designed this outdoor classroom that we wanted to use. Um, here are just a few main points. We kind of we know that hands-on learning is a great way for all sorts of students to learn. Um, it's a fairly flexible space, whether it's for English or science or any of agriculture classes. Um, additionally, outdoor um, exposure has been proven to uh, sorry, excuse me, has been proven to help mental health. And obviously since that's such an important issue uh with this next generation, we think that that's a fairly important topic as well. Um so the outdoor classroom that we've kind of put together will include seating areas which are the picnic bench tables. So when they're put together it's a picnic table but when you bring
008them back down they turn into benches. Um the teaching space which includes a wooden stage, uh several whiteboards and then sheds for the whiteboards and stuff to go in in the winter and then natural elements. Uh so possible gardening areas and then of course accessible pathways for everyone. >> Okay. So kind of our process of like how we started um like Lily said um last year we started brainstorming so kind of just what we all wanted to include. And then this year we started um making a survey and sent it out to all of the teachers just asking if they would actually use the facility. And we got incredible feedback and almost everybody who responded was super excited and was willing to use it. We had middle school even say that they were going to
009use it for some sort of milkweed unit that they do as well as like the egg teacher wants to use it for a garden unit that they were have. So everything was pretty positive which helped um kind of our ego a little bit to like make sure that everybody wanted to use it. Um and then Chloe said also um our point of focus was the environment. So this is definitely one of the biggest things that you can do for that. Um, and then we met with uh Dan as well as um other like adviserss just to kind of see what our route would be. And then we also looked for local businesses who would want to help. So we've had Dave Tree Service that's going to help us as well as Nelson's Hardware help us
010with kind of um our funding so then we don't have to use as much of our grant money that we raise but also keep um our community involved as much as much as possible. Um, so we wrote to the district Rotary grant and got that as well as a community foundation grant and a rivet grant. So, so far those are the grants that we have gotten plus we have other funding that Luna will eventually talk about. Um, so we have a location um that you guys are pretty sure have and then we talked about designs and layouts as well. So, this is um our location. It's back when you walk back this way and to the left, there's a path there that we have to clear out with the trees. And then we have a
011little spot where we're going to put the stage and then benches are kind of just scattered, but we're trying to keep it as natural as possible so it's not like we're ruining the environment while trying to help it as well. And then these are just some things that we're going to hopefully use um to include with the agricultural unit that Miss Glowi has offered to help us with too. So just kind of things to help her out with that. And then this is essentially what the stage and classroom is going to look like. talk about funding. All right, so the funding part of this um I applied for many local grants and support from other Rotary organizations like the Northern Door, the Surgeon Bay. There was quite a few of them and we ended up
012getting about $12,000 as you can see right there. So it was just kind of a lot of looking where can we get money and applying for anything we could possible and so we ended up raising quite a bit of money for this project. And then in addition to like all these businesses wanting to help out like the H tree service that's going to make sure we save as money as we can put towards building everything and for building things as well. We are doing um a community project. So anyone that wants to help once we get to the assembly part can help do that. and we have had volunteers from all the other Rotary groups to help build that and just put it together. So, we're not really paying for like it's all the voluntary
013work. >> Yeah. So, then kind of our timeline roughly kind of all touched on it, but last year was our first year as a club here at Stat School and we were super excited for that opportunity. So, Sienna talked about how we kind of were thinking of ideas, brainstorming, and then once we picked our like main focus point, we really locked in on an idea that we wanted to follow through with. So then this year, this past fall, we were surveying the teachers, trying to get a feel for how often it would be used, what people kind of wanted it for. Um, and then this past, I would say winter and spring, we've been applying for grants, been getting those grants back. Um, and then hopefully start to get it up and running and ready
014for next school year. That's pretty much all we have. Does anyone have any questions? Can you go back a couple of slides there? Okay. So, the ground the surface underneath that's is just that just natural grass. Are you paving? >> No, it's all staying pretty natural. So, we have to like bring a skid steer back there because it's really rocky and kind of bumpy. So, we have to kind of flatten everything out, but we're hoping to just keep everything as natural as possible. And then we're also going to make pathways. There's already a couple back there, but we're connecting to an already existing trail as well. So, we're hoping to like wood chip and mulch that and make it look as nice as possible. Yeah. And we'll be doing that with all the dead trees
015and the other trees that we plan to cut down just for safety reasons. And we're just going to turn that into our mulch. So, that probably shouldn't be any additional expense to us at all. >> And this stage is like treated wood. >> Yeah. Yep. >> There's a great existing trail out there right now. Yeah. >> And um there's also, you know, there's kind of an abandoned physical >> exercise stations. Yeah. Do you think you have any plans to revitalize some of that? >> As of right now, that's not really on our docket, but definitely as that area gets more popular. I can see that probably something the next few years students will probably pick that up. This is CN last year. So, we're trying to leave our impact. >> Yeah. So about summer too,
016I mean you know majority of for instance growing seasons during the summer when students aren't aren't here. You have some kind of plans. I mean you've got a garden space planned and other you know things you know you have a a crew that's >> right. So um that is something that is in like hopefully in phase two. So phase one is like building it and phase two is going to be kind of like figuring out how we man that community garden. Uh we ident we know that that is going to be one of our hurdles. Um but I think um getting it to start is the first step and then um we have had some um community interest in helping with a community garden. It's just how that works and who coordinates the volunteers and
017you know that is um because of the growing season. We don't foresee anything being planted this summer. We see that as next next year >> community right now that area that you designated for the garden is really just field which will take some revitalizing and nothing else and >> but yeah it's a great you know that that wooded area is a great area for science and although it's shrunken down through the years I think I think it's a great great you guys >> so the whiteboards are winter party. >> That's what we plan on having. Um, but we're also going to put like a shed so then they can be put away when not utilized, but we're hoping to keep them somewhat like seasonal so then you can use them whenever I tables tables wood.
018>> Not a question, but a few comments. I was blown away when I read the material that we got in our packets and what a wonderful job you did in putting all this together and doing the survey work. It is fantastic. This would be a great thing to have on your resume as you move forward completing Sebast. And secondly, I can't help but think I have a couple of sources where you could get some state recognition for this project as it moves forward. So, I want to keep that in mind. There's a state school board journal which would love to have an article on this and there's also a state education convention where this would be a great presentation. >> Southern North did something like this called many years ago and they got a lot
019of publicity on it and a lot of people community involved in it and I think it's you know it's a great idea to you know get community involved in it. I wanted to commend them just really quickly because this is the fir um we found out that this is sort of a historical thing in the Rotary world. It's the first time three clubs have ever come together to sponsor a project and it's the first time that the district has ever funded a studentled project. So um they did amazing this spring. Yes, >> we have a beautiful day scheduled, fingers crossed, for May 16th where we're going to start clearing everything out and then um not just our group, but um all of the other Rotary groups are going to come to and help us clear
020everything out and start building the stage and kind of just putting stuff together and then as many others as we can get to do finishing touches, but hopefully have it done >> because you're all over like pre-made cut and put on some molds. >> Exactly. Yeah. >> So, the group is going to help you put this together. >> Yes. Well, I salute you on your imagination. I salute you on that you've been able to get things done through other people. That's the that's you will learn in the real world. That's >> that's the that's the definition of management. Getting things done through people. >> And even I'm saying this kind of tongue and cheap. >> I salute you that you've gone all this way, got all this money, and how many are going to say
021no? Right? Yes. It's like when I used to work and employees would come and say, "Oh, Mr. Mory, Mrs. Jones is giving us $5,000 for a new game for the whatever department and it's in the budget." Oh, Mrs. Jones is going to give you that money. Yeah. So, how am I going to say no? Right. I'll have Mrs. Jones upset with you. So, good job. Good job. >> Fantastic. Any other questions or comments for them? Otherwise, um, we'll look for a motion to approve. >> I move that we accept their recommendation and move ahead with the project as presented with congratulations on their ingenuity, their hard work, and their forward. >> I'll second that. >> All in favor say I. >> I motion carried. Congratulations. Thank you. Then we have kitchen. >> I wonder where
022you put the kitchen. >> Are you sensing a theme here? >> I am. >> Are you sensing a theme like these kids? You build this big beautiful school and they want to go outside. window. >> It may be termed as writing on coattails. All right. So, this is an update um from the last time I was here about a year ago. Um when we talked about the outdoor classroom, and I just want to give an update on that because we did receive some funds and um I want to propose phase one to move forward with some of those funs. um just to get the project started. So um I don't think we didn't have Dr. Ga here, but everyone um heard my presentation on this. I left this slide here in case she was going
023to be here, but um the girls actually talked about why having an outdoor space is so useful and beneficial for education. In my world and what I teach, um the goal was to or is to um expose students to um different types of cooking techniques that we can't do in school. Um grilling um you've seen my Weber grill outside my classroom and I want to be able to expand that and to be able to have access to go out and utilize different types of grilling surfaces um anytime during the during the school day. So, this to refresh your memory, this was the um the original plan. Lots going on here. Um you can kind of see the entry. This is the entry into the uh school right here. Um administrator's office windows here. The door
024to my classroom is right here. And this was the plan for the outdoor kitchen space. Of course, um, Meisner put in lots and lots of landscaping just to refresh and rejuvenate the front of school. Um, but I go to the next slide and they had all these things are right here as the cooking areas. We had um two gas grills. We have um two like black top flat top grills or grles um a big green egg. we had um a wash station um factored into there so that people can use this space um without access to my classroom or school in the summertime. And then here kind of tying into the whole grow your own food um but even having a a classroom kitchen. We have a race planter bed here um that we have
025so we could plant things in the spring before school ends and be able to harvest things in the summertime. Um drip system in there. Um but very simple simple things. Um so phase one of the original plan was this. Um the landscape was just if we acquired all of the funds and we had them, let's do it. Um so they drew those in. But phase one was um the grilling area. Um then there was an area over here which is kind of an outdoor classroom area. So a big open space with rocks or boulders, um places where kids could sit underneath the trees with books. Um and then this was another another outdoor classroom type space where students could come here for a classroom session with their teachers. So, it just kind of tied both
026of those areas together here to kind of make it a more inviting space for students to hang out, go outside, eat their lunches. Um, I think we talked about that with like seniors being able to go out and use use the space to eat lunches as um before their final send off. So, the space was kind of building it all together. Um, moving forward, however, um, you can see, um, this was a slide that I presented last time I was here. The project total, phase one, the one, what I just showed you was 380,000. Um, project total 400,000 per from one end to the other end of the school. Um you will see these were the grants that I submitted for and received 50,000 from the Ray Brook Foundation. However, um the ones that are
027crossed off were ones that did not support um the infrastructure of this project. Um the other ones here, Weber Grill um D County Medical Center um wants to work on this project with sponsorship of any type of event that we have to bring the community in. Um they want to be a part of that and sponsor help sponsor those types of events and activities. um Ace Hardware, Big Green Egg. When we get to that point, um I will be bringing those those in. But, um to start the project, um I'm proposing a smaller condensed phase one um utilizing the funds that we have secured and just to get it going. Uh the focus is um to implement it is just get the infrastructure in place. So, we're not taking away anything as part of the
028original plan, but it's getting the infrastructure put in. So, getting um things like electric lines, water in um drainage, um what you don't see under the ground and then um build it in a way that it'll support future expansion, phase two, phase three as more funds come in. Um it avoids costly rework later. It builds momentum for additional funding because it shows that we are investing in this idea and putting putting it forward and utilizing it right away because I'm able to use it um with my students right away. Um the we took it we resent it out to bid um to see if we could bring down the project into the phase where we could actually $50,000 budget. And this is the plan that is um presented. So you can kind of see a
029before and after here. And um so you'll see and I'm and we have talked about reworking a couple things here because I don't know if I will we'll get to this part but the because the most important part right here is this part. Um so what we're planning on is putting in all the infrastructure putting in everything that goes underground um and availability water um electric underground um any of the drainage um elements um putting in brick um kind of in this category. So it would be here's my classroom door um and then being able to come across here. We'd have foundation work going underneath this island would what would be and then phase two plan would be this um sector here would be phase two with putting the raised planter box in and tying
030it in with the um cabinetry. Um, Meer has a really great relationship with the company who creates the cabinets, I guess the patio cabinetry. So, they feel really confident um about pricing it or getting donations uh donations for that area. But to start would be getting in the infrastructure u first which would um equate to that $50,000 amount. So it would be a starting point. So we would have a patio space and then um we would build on that from there. All right. Any questions on that? When would you begin? Meisner said they could start working in um in Paul >> and the cabinets are the second phase. >> That would be the second phase. So first phase is essentially a patio and then um it would be building upon that after that. >> So
031the brick or pavers >> pavers they're like yeah they're there's different sizes of them. I have them actually sitting out in my classroom. >> I just wonder I I've seen a lot of bricks and papers in real estate. I I know does a great job installation but sometimes they get uneven if you consider stamp concrete which might be >> or serviceable easier removal. >> Sure. We talked about um we talked about that was one of the things when we were picking out everything. We talked about do we pour a concrete slab? Do we do something more decorative like that? Um and the the thing that we kept talking about or thinking about is um right now we have a curbous substrate here. We have a way for water to to le um right here. be
032raised, plant your back. So pitch, you think about pitch, everything has is going to pitch away from the school. We don't want any water going towards the school. So we have a pitch coming this direction, but it's hitting a wall right here because this is a raised planter box. So this is raised up here. And yes, there could be drain tile put underneath um to help that. But the idea was take away um opportunities for concrete to crack with all the winter heating. Um allow water to just infiltrate right through the brick. Um, makes for easier clean up. If things get spilled, you just hose it down and it just kind of goes away. So, that was kind of the idea and the thought behind doing something and then you don't have to worry about
033sealing. That was another thing we discussed was every couple years you got to seal it so it doesn't crack. Um, so maintenance down the road might be a little bit more, but front is a little bit more for brick. Um, but maybe it would be a little bit more costly later on if we did concrete. It just makes for I guess you can go either way on that. >> So, so is it being designed so it can be kind of a standalone project? What I'm talking about is obviously the high school edition is aging and long range plans, it's probably going to be replaced. So, I mean, I think it's a great plan, but I think, you know, if it can be a standalone project that you could possibly demolish the building behind it and
034still have it as a a working unit uh when when a new structure is is, you know, >> what was we discussed this, didn't we, >> the last meeting? >> I don't remember. I think you're going to have to I think that's roll it into the new build. >> Yeah, I think that's an excellent idea though and all that has to take place is when you design this with whoever the architect or you design all your systems so they're not contingent upon the building behind it so that the building behind it can disappear and you can build whatever you want to but your systems still are working there. I think that's >> Yeah, I think, >> you know, we'd like to have some type of longevity, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Um, >> so the
035building behind it came down. Maybe just add something to the back as far as landscaping or whatever. It becomes standalone. But it depends where my my classroom >> where your classroom >> I think you're kind of I mean yeah that's a good maybe we'll get to that point with somebody and then high school elementary whatever but you're going to wait around for that to you know >> even if you get 20 years out of >> yeah I think right >> I think they should keep it Keep that thought in your mind as you know. >> Yeah. I'm not saying building behind you is not going to be there. This may not last that long either. >> Yeah. >> Let's forward think, but let's not too forward think. >> Now, when I make this comment, you
036can say, "Jerry, your car is running you to come home." Okay. Is there any possibility from what we just heard these two projects can come together since they're both outdoors instead of having two separate places? Consider building something that's multi-purpose which will meet all your needs because it's you can't you you got to us first but also build it in such a way to accommodate what we just heard as opposed to having two things built at at at more expense if you brought the two projects together because you've already got how much money? >> 12,000 >> 11 they're going to have they're going to have 15,000 by the end of the project. >> But and and but I'm just saying that makes it a cheaper project. But anyway, it's going to be a multi-purpose outdoor
037thing focusing on your needs but then allowing these other things to come in as opposed to doing these separate little What she's what she's doing here is she's putting a she has a classroom right here. She's outside there to run a gas line to have a drill and all this field where they're >> No, no, no. I'm not saying move it down to the field. I'm saying move the field into here. >> There's not enough room. >> Jerry, I think you're mix. I think this is a great project. It's it's major thing. They got classroom setting out here. >> Everyone can use it. Not saying everyone can't use this, but you're >> I understand that. I'm saying, have you given it any thought? Ask any of the designers, hey, we got this project going on.
038Instead of duplicating services, is there a way you can make this bigger and better and and meeting both needs as opposed to having two different That's all I'm saying. >> Yeah. To speak to that, yes, you're right. I mean, I'm looking for accessibility obviously out of my class. Um the the element here, this is pretty small scale when you're talking about growing things. I think they're looking at bigger community like area to have their own community gardens. Um you know, there's a wonderful community garden right by the hospital, you know, and I I can envision what they're doing to be a bigger scale where people have access. Um this is more of like a a smaller classroom kitchen. Um certainly it's usable by anybody in the school. Um, I did though, that was my thought
039like where are we when I was thinking about this and dreaming of this was we didn't have an outdoor space. Like I love that outdoor space like for them to go in the woods and I could just picture them in the woods in the shade and um I can picture a lot of classrooms utilizing that space which is why I was like thinking of those things here like let's because we want our kids when it starts to get nice out when they're mowing the lawn they're getting that smell in the school they want to get outside >> and this was a space and idea here like let's utilize this area that's underutilized. Let's make that into something where kids could go out, but what they're doing is totally fitting the bill, too. It's giving another
040It's just a little different. Um, you know, we have cars going by here, whereas back there, it's a lot more secluded for them to >> to do this nature. It's relaxing. Yeah. >> And you talk about contacting. We we we have alumnus school that has very big outdoor dining facility downtown. And maybe maybe she might be interested in some kind of sponsorship. Maybe you know what I'm talking about. >> No, I don't. >> Great. I mean, her name main name is Grace. >> Yeah. >> K. >> Um, and she has a huge maybe huge area for outdoor dining. You know, might she might be interested in some kind of sponsorship or something. >> Yeah. And that's been kind of the hard Um the hurdle is finding um big grants like on a larger scale um
041for this project. Um it's been very challenging to find things that because we um I'll find something maybe by the USDA or some entity but it's like I'll get to all of the criteria and then it's like oh no we don't qualify because of this or it's just some there's always been something that's kind of limited um the ability to secure funding >> and maybe private part of the sponsorship is what might fuel uh because outdoor dining is extremely big. >> Well, and that's kind of how this idea came. it was co time and all the outdoor dining we were doing and being out in in our patios because we could be around people outside >> and I just that was kind of how this idea happened was I thought about myself and how much
042I was cooking outside and um experimenting on different things and how great it would be to teach those things to my students. Sometimes a little seat gets planted and it spurs other people on the table. >> That's what my thought is here. Like maybe if we can get to here, right? If you build it, they will come and then can help kind of keep growing. It's showing a little it's showing that we're investing in this area putting it in place. >> So does anybody have any other questions for Tara on phase one? So, what's on on the table for us to approve >> phase phase one the $50,000 grant she got and that infra kind of infrastructure work he's looking for approval for >> we need to go out >> what's your what's your bid
043>> 5000 >> 5,000 5 is that our rules out of state rule. >> That's yours and follows. >> You've got to be kidding me. You can't even flush the toilet for $5,000. >> Well, Maybe our motion is we approve phase one subject to sending the project out to bid. I will I will say I have been working with Miser on this for five years. >> Five years. And they have invested so much in kind time to taking my vision out of my brain and putting it on paper and then redrawing it so that we can align with >> you. I I don't even know. I mean, they've been they have been so wonderful. requires it though, >> right? >> Can we put that as a side issue? Can we put that on an agenda of
044a future item? >> Reviewed our policy. >> Yeah. >> I mean, that is that is like dark ages, >> but it's still going to be less than the 50,000. >> I don't know. Let's get reality of what we really what the real world. >> Can we have Can we have a motion on this project? >> I need a motion. No, you have to. >> We need the motion to approve phase one subject to going out to bid. So move >> second. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion carried. >> Good job. If you would for another agenda >> they were wonderful to work with for sure. Um, then we have the 206 benefit compensation and benefits. We're going to get here in a second. Um I'm hooking up insurance who is our
045broker um for our presentation on our insurance options for the 25 26 27 school year. Yeah, give me a second. >> Can you guys hear us? >> I can hear. >> Okay, we can hear you. So, that's >> Can you see my screen? >> We can. Yes. Is that good? >> They should They'll have it in front of them, so that should help, too. >> Okay, I think we're good. Chad, >> I'm going to turn it over to you. I'm pleased to present Comp and Associates as our broker. >> Thank you, Randy. Um, just wanted to start off uh uh saying really appreciate this relationship. excited about it and um uh I love working with school districts. My wife works at one. I have a a great relationship here with the Debut Community School District.
046A lot of volunteering and stuff. So, I'm excited about this. Um is there any questions before we get started? I know Randy shared some information and and I believe you you all have this in front of you. >> Yes, >> correct. >> Okay. Well, I will go ahead and uh get started. If anybody does have questions, please feel free to um um just ask and interrupt. So, here here's our marketing. This is just our market results. So, we went out to market and looked at several different options. Uh the top option right here is your current program. This one is their renewal, which is a 6% increase from PAVAB. Uh this one is a CDC triad program. So this is a level funded program. It's a broader network. So you have access to more places.
047Um uh level funded has been around for quite a few years. It actually was formed uh back when the affordable care act came about um or Obamacare is what they called it uh back in the day. But the Affordable Care Act came out and what they defined was small group was any group with less than 50 lives. And so they came through and said anybody with less than 50 lives, you're going to be pulled by age. And they took the split of the u healthiest groups and the sickest groups uh within that range too and said instead of being 10 times of a separation they lowered it to three times. So back then you saw if you were a young healthy group you saw considerable increases um um with with the plans. So what happened
048was groups of people and it actually started I think with United Healthcare uh came out and started what's called a level funded. It's a type of self-funding plan that just doesn't have the risk and it allows them to health underwrite a group not age rated group based on the state or the pool program that the insurance company offers. So, in this instance, you would have, you know, as an example, let's say you paid $120,000 a year. It would be $10,000 a month. Uh $6,000 of that would go into a claim fund or a pool, and $4,000 would pay for fixed costs, including uh stop-loss insurance. Um, I'm not going to spend a ton of time getting into details on it, but essentially what happens is every month you would pay that $10,000. at the end
049of the year um you would not pay more than 120,000 even if your claims were really bad. So it it's a very low risk similar to a fully insured program like you have but that's called level funding. Um and I'm going to get into the details of these a little bit on their plan designs which also had an impact on I think kind of where your decision making is is coming in. So uh WCA I believe everyone was um kind of chatted about this. This is the program that uh also has a broad network and they were looking at a buy down program uh initially I think was presented to you. So this is just their straight up renewal uh without the buy down and then the next one is an HR buy down um
050options just um looking at a couple of different options. So I believe they came in at uh assuming uh 20% of the population would would buy down uh for an exposure. Well, I increased that to 25%. And then we also um showed a 50% exposure and I'll kind of chat about those reasons, but that takes your pricing once you add in the fixed cost and that exposure takes your pricing to almost a 16% increase or a 23% increase. And then we hit seven other markets outside of it. They just really weren't competitive. Uh many of them declined to quote because they weren't competitive, but um not not very good options um this year. Future years they might be, but uh this year they're not. So this is looking at your current health plan are the
051first three right here. Uh this is your renewal with the next three and it shows all of the pricing for single and family premiums and then the totals which comes to that 6%. As you can see right here, all of your plan designs stay the same. Everything stays the same um on your entire program. If there are changes, what you'll see from our presentations and actually you'll see it on the next page is they will be highlighted. Um, so you'll see what plan design changes. Uh, there are any questions so far in any of this. >> I'm not seeing any, Chad. >> What's that? >> I'm not seeing any questions. >> Okay. So, the next one is looking at this WCA uh, GHT program. And so just straight up without the buy down, this is
052what the program looks like. It comes to a 9.53% increase. Uh obviously just right out of the gate, it's more expensive than the renewal. Plus the plan design changes aren't aren't as as good as what what the school district currently has. So um when you add in then on the next page kind of looking at um adding in those buy downs. So initially I think the discussion that was had with you prior to us being on was a 20% um increase or 20% of the population would have that buy down. Um I've increased it to 25% and then I also threw in a 50 uh a 50% um on this for for an estimation as far as claims exposure. And I did that for a couple of reasons. Number one is saying only 20% of
053your population is going to use their deductibles is um I I don't know if it's very reliable. It's it's it's probably a decent number and there's a chance it could hit but I think there's a better chance that it won't hit and I think even on a 25% we're probably looking at a best case scenario here just because your program doesn't have any um co-pays or anything. So, you know, you go to the doctor for a kid has a sore throat or you run to urgent care or, you know, you have a bulging disc in your back and and need to get looked at or tweak your knee or any of those types of things all applies to your deductible. So, I feel like there's a better chance that you're probably going to be over
05420%. Um, so it just this just gives you a good good opportunity uh particularly if you're looking at budgeting. Um, most places would want to probably budget on the higher end and and not hit it and be, you know, celebrating, right? Yay, we get, you know, we have some extra money back as opposed to being under. But as you can see, if you're looking even at this 50%. So, this is showing the renewal 1.735. Then you add in $234,000 worth of exposure or buy down on the plan. And then the estimated uh administration. So you have to have a company outside that goes through and processes all that and and and and selects or or sends who's responsible for what. They reimburse the employees before the buy down comes in u and they get their
055bills. So you can see that that goes up quite a bit then and and ends up at 23%. Do I think you'll hit 50% of the population going? You know, good chance not. you know, I'd be 90% confident you're going to be something under that. 25% I would say probably not as good. There's also a couple other issues that I always caution people with with going with these. So, how this program works on a buy down and I know we actually do it at Kungl. So, our program though, we don't buy down just, you know, a couple thousand dollar. We buy down a bigger chunk. We have like a $10,000 deductible I think or a 9,000. buy down to roughly where you're at, the 2,000 deductible. So, uh, we we take on a little bit
056exposure and have a little bit more risk, but that works a little bit better on the pricing. Um, but with this, how it works with us is if I go to the doctor and let's say I have $1,200 worth of claims towards my deductible, it's not coming in as one sum for 1,200 bucks either, by the way. usually have a couple of doctor's appointments, MRIs, and and things of that nature that would come in. So, you're getting $300 reimbursements, and those go into your account almost immediately. So, within a week or maybe two weeks, you're going to see that $1,200 in different increments show up in the checking account. The problem is then the hospital goes through and they go through their uh billing system and they run it through the insurance and then they
057have to issue the bills to the employees. And it's usually anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks later. So the employees had the money for 4 to 6 weeks and then suddenly these bills start showing up at their house um that they have to pay and they tend to question it a little bit and didn't remember or um you know they got to go back and check it all out. It becomes kind of a a problem for employees in doing this. But um that's what that program looks like. And I know this is something you looked at. Is there any questions on that? I don't see any. >> Okay, I'll assume we're good on that end. Um, so this is what the plan design would look like. So you'd have a $4,200 deductible that be bought
058down into 2100 and then families 8,500 down to 4,200 um from that end. And then the out-of- pocket max is also bought down um from that program. So the last one is the CDC triad um that we were looking at. So this kind of shows the rating. They have this broken out um in a four tier. So it' be employee, employee, spouse, employee, child, and family premium. Uh all broken out. Um comes with 460. It actually would be like a 3% increase. But then there's some government stuff that you need to do that need to get filed because it is self-funded and those costs come in a little bit more. So your final cost would be about a 4% increase. And these plan designs are a little bit different here too. You can see so
059this one if the the group that's on the 3500 assumingly probably is taking the $3,000 plan now. Um so their deductible is a little bit higher. Co insurance is 80%. So sooner you have to go to the out of pocket max which is also higher and then you also have RX co-pays that are in there. And then for the lower one which is the more expensive one you know your deductibles would be an improvement assuming you know the people that were on the 2,000 deductible will go on this but your out- of- pocket maxes are more. You have co-pays as it comes to as it applies to your office visits or specialist visits. uh urgent care would have a co-pay and then you al also have um RX co-pays as it goes through questions on
060that at all. >> And then this is looking at the vision. So we did go out to market. Your current is superior vision. You're in the middle of a contract there. So uh essentially it would be a flat renewal. So your current is also your renewal uh in this end. But we went out to Delta Dentals, we found um it's about an 18% or it's over an 18% decrease uh in premiums. Um the the uh design is a little bit different. Uh I think it's a little bit better. Uh, so your exam co-pays are the same, but your lens co-pay, um, single vision lenses, bif focals, tri focals, all of that stuff is actually less cuz that stays at $10. Progressives for standard progressives, it is a little bit more um, you know, 20 bucks
061more uh, when you get the progressives and then your frames allowance for them is actually a little bit higher. So you're a little bit better. contacts is a little bit less, but you also have the 120 allowance and then there's a 20% off balance that they have where they negotiate that in for anything anyone that goes there. So, and that's that's what we have. >> Any questions? >> Medicare's been simpler. Medicare is not supportive. >> Okay. You only get reimbured for 43%. >> Well, that's the other side. >> If there aren't any questions, um the recommendation that the administrative team would have as I shared with you earlier this week in the documents, um we would recommend that we would stay with PA 360. The plan design stays the exact same and we would have
062that 6% increase. I do believe that as we continue to move forward, we have to continue to do our due diligence to look at what other options that we may have, whether it's a level funded option, whether it's going and trying to find another consortium, but really trying to maintain the cost with any of the plans that were submitted. Um, if we would have made plan designs, there could have been a significant increase to our employees. We really didn't want that out-ofpocket increase to our employees. So, this keeps everything the same. We have the ability to still have a balanced budget. We're still proposing coming in um within our budget that we had allocated. And so, as an administrative team, we'd like to see us maintain PA 360 as our health insurance moving forward. And
063then on the vision side, um I'll Tosh pass it to you. Okay. on the vision side of proposing to move to the Delta Dental uh insight network. I did not get an answer on the question. Chad, can I um ask if you had time to look into the question that I emailed earlier this evening or earlier this late this afternoon? >> I'll let Liz handle that. I know she reached out. I don't know if she got an answer. >> I did not get an answer. I got out of offices um for both of the representatives that I reached out to. >> Okay. >> So, I'm hoping they'll get back to us tomorrow on it. Um and if not, we'll you know, we'll find someone else to um reach out to at Delta to get that
064answer. >> My the question that I brought up is our current vision plan covers an optomologist and an optometrist underneath the exam. I'm making an assumption that the reason that you see the reduction is that they don't cover that opthalmologist. They only cover the optometrist. So if you want to see a real I shouldn't say real, but a medical doctor um >> I would suspect if the optometrist refers your employee to anologist that would come under your health plan. It does. So, it does come under your health plan, but that means that instead of a preventative visit um under your vision coverage, you now have a medical visit in which you are responsible for a tier. >> But if you're being referred to from your routine thing to someone else, it's not really your routine.
065If he indicates there's something that going on that you need that's no long >> right but if there is something that you have that needs um consistent review every year that your normal exam right goes you go to an opthalmologist instead of an optometrist >> right >> under the other planet >> that just means you've got something >> something it's kind of like >> it's not necessarily >> so I'll just um you have an individual who does not wear contacts or glasses, >> but you have a history in your family of wet eye, >> whatever it's called. >> So, an optometrist can't >> look at that, but an opthalmologist >> can. And so, your opthalmologist, you're able to go and that's covered and now it would shift it. So for $4,000 difference, does that impact
066our employees because you're now putting it it's still it's covered, but you now have to hit that $200 exam as it were right now. >> But I almost suspect 95% to 99% of the situations where an optometrist can take it's an exception to the rule that's going to refer you because I this I know personally how optometries and ologists work up here. They work kind of hand and glove and uh I think which is unusual because opthalmologists most of themologists look upon the optometrist here kind of as the first line of defense and they trust them and then they see something and I think it's kind of your family practitioner and going on to some special. So, is that an answer you need to approve the plan, the vision plan tonight? >> I think it's
067really up to the board to make that determination knowing that there could be risk. So, we're getting an we're getting a reduction of 18%. But I don't know what that reduction of 18% is in plan design. And so are we do we want to move knowing that there could be changes in plan design because we don't have that answer right now. I mean that >> we don't have that underlying piece um on the differences and is there a difference? So >> I defer to the board that's your choice. You said though the opthalmologist more than likely be picked up under our our general healthcare, right? >> But then it's not covered though and it's going to cost >> he's going to be out of network. I mean that's another question. >> It's not on network
068but it's your eyes plant to the plan >> right now the plan they have an opthalmologist is covered. >> Okay. >> There is no hearing there is no saying that under the delta network that it's not covered. Oh, >> no one has said it's not covered. >> Okay. >> But we also don't >> I would assume it is covered. We don't know it is, but I would assume it is covered. >> Another question I had was do you have a lot of people requesting out of network care? >> Yes. >> And we don't have >> we do not have out of network care. So the part of the reason I propose moving to the Delta dental plan is because if you are in Sturgeon Bay or North, there are no in network providers in this
069network. None. This plan offers to pay reimburse the individual at the in network rate for out of network care if you are in a rural area and you have no in network providers within 20 miles. >> Okay. So it means that you could go to an office within Surgeon Bay and have it covered at in network rates. >> All right. >> So at least it provides some coverage rather than the the problem we ran into is that there are no eye care providers in Surgeon Bay that carry vision insurance. >> Right. >> The nearest one is Alma. So >> I'm also thinking about the healthcare insurance within you know I the plan that we're selecting here I'm I'm assuming out of network benefits is is not >> so >> oh you're back back to health
070insurance >> health insurance is a little bit different so they have an option to buy into the POSOS plan which would give them the auto network access also with PA being a limited network facility if they don't have the services. So I and I I'll just use cancer as an example, right? So if PA 360 doesn't have that expert in their network, then you can go out of network and the cost is covered. >> So I'm also thinking of like staff members with let's say uh college students. >> Yep. >> That are OA and they would be out of network and have emergency services that's going to be covered. >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. There's an out of area dependent form essentially online that um staff have to complete. >> Okay. >> So
071the motion you're looking for is to retain pred 360 for health insurance. And what's the name of the vision insurance here? >> Delta delta >> delta. It's delta dental >> delta. But I see two delta dentals here. Delta one and two. Does that matter? >> Oh um oh delta one. Okay. Is there a motion? >> I make a motion to approve 60 plan and make change to vision to the potential. >> I'll second. >> Okay. Is there further are there further questions or discussion? >> Hearing none. All in favor say I. >> I. opposed. That motion is carried. >> Do you want to >> Yes. Do we want to um say thank you to Chad and Liz? >> Thank you. >> And um I guess let them go for the evening. Thank you guys. And
072we'll talk to you tomorrow. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. Bye-bye. >> Okay. Um, to stick with benefits, you should have a document that looks a little like this little table. So, this should be, I'm hoping, fairly quick. Um, regarding dental, life insurance, and long-term disability insurance. It's not in your packet. It was handed out separately. >> Yep. Small table has three on the top. Anybody need a copy? That >> that's really >> okay. Um the dental insurance that we are currently with is Delta Dental. We would um propose staying with Delta Dental. There is no premium increase. We would just be rolling this forward. Um, and we would stay with M3 as the representative on that for one more year. >> Do we get a decrease by bundling done
073to Delta twice? >> We may next year. We may next year. Yes. And then on life insurance and long-term disability insurance, we are with the standard. We are in we'll go into the second year of a two-year contract. So that would be um a no increased no increase renewal. >> I do believe we have better. >> So you need a separate motion. >> Do you want a separate motion on these? >> Any further questions on this document? >> Yes. I move that we continue with Delta Dental for the next school year. >> Second. >> We need to roll insurance for that. >> That's all right. Locked in. Yeah, >> we just need a motion to continue moving forward with the the standards. >> I just want a motion for each one of these. You want
074a motion? >> You can make them all together. Okay, I'll make a motion that we accept the the Delta dental proposal and continue our life rate and long-term disability annual as presented. >> And second questions or discussion? All in favor say I. >> Opposed? Motion carried. >> Okay. So that takes care of the benefit information for tonight. Um then I would like you to look towards the compensation and benefits proposal that you have in front of you. Um and the compensation schedule proposal that you also have. What we are proposing, what we modeled originally in the our budget forecasting model was a 3% increase and we saw that 17.9% increase from PARA and then other increases within our um other benefits. We were looking at a $450 approximately um increase through our modeling. What we
075are proposing is a 2.63 63% increase which falls in line with CPI and that would be across all positions. Then we would like to put into place a longevity stipen for teachers and support staff. Um and then we that total increase is about $194,000. So maybe for the benefit of anybody watching, I don't know if there's anybody watching. Can you explain the longevity? >> Yes. Longevity stipend would be for any teacher or support staff who have been working with the district for longer than 10 years. In the first year, in this implementation year, everyone who has been here longer than 10 years would get that stipen this year. Then going forward, you would get it on the 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, and 35. That stipen increases as you continue up the the scale of
076longevity. Um, for teachers, it starts at $500 a year. For support staff, it starts at $250 a year. Um, if you need more information on that, it goes up. >> So, so every five years, it >> double, right? So from if you've been here for 10 to 14 years this year you would get $500. Then on year 15 you would get $750. On year 20 you would get a,000. >> But it's doesn't roll into your base pay. >> It does not roll into your base pay. >> So we're not going to give any increases on top of the statement. >> Sorry. >> No, we're giving a 2.6. >> No, but I mean >> Right. It does not continue on every year. >> Yeah. So you're you're doing this in in lie of a 3% that
077you budgeted, >> Right. >> So I I I think that's a good idea. I mean, you know, I'm all, you know, all in favor of some type of longevity reward um maybe it seems modest, you know, in the beginning. Maybe it can be increased um in future years, but I I think it's a great first step in recognizing people's, you know, ability to stay here. And uh I think it's a good step. >> Okay. >> And the details of the longevity piece will come to you in the handbook, but this is just giving the overall the concept of the compensation piece and the what that whole package looks like and the dollars. Do we have any more questions about the the wage side of adjustments? You can also see this information on the the table
078that you have in front of you which lays out um more of our support staff hourly wages. Um, part of what we heard from support staff was with the longevity sitement was that there are no increases once they hit step three, which is 18 months into their their time here and this would at least continue some award or remain with us. Okay. Sorry. question. >> So how so we get it right? How you want motion for >> just the only thing we need a motion on is the increase on the salary >> that allows us to move >> 63 >> plus >> the longevity will come back to you at in the handbook so you don't need to take action on that. I just want to bring the whole Wouldn't you want them to take
079action on that though? I'm sorry. We should have talked about this earlier because it will be in their >> cont. >> It will be it will be a separate statement but it will be better than heavy is being hidden in the in >> because we put all those other on. So yeah. >> Okay. So yes, we would want a motion on this longevity piece too. >> I 2.63 is all staff. >> All staff. I I would move that we um accept the compensation of 2.63% to all staff members as well as the longevity stipen package that has been presented. >> Second. Questions or discussion? All in favor say I. >> I opposed. Motion carried it. Okay. again. Um, we've got a future meeting May 20th at 6 p.m. All >> in favor say I. I
080post. Motion carries.