001We're live. Okay. That's off. It was on just a second ago and it just went off. Literally, I just touched it a minute ago and it was there. Got to try to be so gentle with it so that it doesn't move. Last time we had to we had to fiddle with it and finally got it to come. Oh, okay. It's loading. You okay? I'll try to be again very gentle. It's a lot cooler in here than in your office. [Music] Hey Ryan, did you see the setup on that? Yeah. Well, word got out Jared set in the pool so we could get a full house tonight. Oh, really? Our boiler went down at the high school. Oh, I think we probably maxed out 10%. That's got to be creative. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz that's not cheap.
0021080,000 and it never goes low low mount. And that one will be a lot more expensive than our other one just because it's going to be ceramic or something to stop it from uh it'll either be aluminum line or stainless steel line. There's so much tubicles that go through. I didn't realize that Aftton doesn't have a pool. So they don't have a swim team. They've never had a pool. That's why they have all those wrestlers. I was going to say no wonder they run they don't have uh and the city doesn't have any input on the recreation. It's all through the school. They take it all. Yeah. They take their whole levy and so does river. It has nothing to do with uh Yeah. The community doesn't have anything. Green and Rock Springs have recent.
003Yeah, but they use Milner money to buy, but they don't use the rec. I know. Yeah, but that's looks good. Oh, man. You do not It doesn't look good. No, Facebook was Facebook nuts. In fact, I was going to say they just started a big Facebook thing about how bad it is. Went by must have been two weeks ago. Look good. It's not good. I called Kim yesterday and Stephen called Kim yesterday and I said, "Damn, you're getting ready to present to the board. You better have a plan." Plan. I'm going to give him one more year. So, it was a month ago when I went by before the board meeting when all the spring rains and everything that What is so hard about watering your lawn? You know, it's probably like my yard. I
004have about half inch of top soil and then rocks the size of basketballs. You know, the city's not paying for the water and just pour the water on that thing. And yeah, crap. I'm going to step out when that comes up. Don't be Don't Don't be surprised. Well, I'm sure it'll come up. Oh, I do. That's a constant uh issue. I think she'd figure it out by now. And she works like a block away. We are live right now just in case. But Whoops. We're muted. All right. I go into the other room. So, yeah, that might come up public comment or Well, will she be here? Is that I think so. We told her she doesn't need to be here. I don't need to be here. I would really like to know what Cheyenne
005is thinking that CKA I think just trying to avoid that. And you notice it says policy. Yeah, but they didn't Oh, yeah. But the only judge that has ruled on that is our district court judge. I guess I can ignore that. I work with her on the hospital board. I remember doing that. You do remember? I just now noticed it. So, Correct. [Music] Amended to put next. Come on. Weird being out here for board meeting. Sometimes that's an engine prepared. Yeah. Hey, did you know that we meet once a month for these board meetings? Every month. It's the second Tuesday. I don't know if you were aware, but is it every month? Your name flag's been there, but somebody told me it changed quarterly. I was just telling somebody I think I crushed me. I've
006been looking. Oh, I know. I'm teasing. Four. No, five. Yeah. His mission president died. Yeah. Okay. So, this mission president died. assigned a temporary who could only be there for a very brief period of time. Then they assigned another temporary and then they assigned a third temporary and he now has we were talking I got a glass of treat was talking to somebody like [Music] terrible terrible he's loved everyone what he has now is a little bit odd but they love that he's singing being anesthesiologist for long singing. Yeah, he made the news cuz he would sing to his patients. Well, he would administer anesthesia, I guess. Just lulli them right in here. I don't know. But, uh, you know, quirky is all right. Quirky. Yeah. three months that was a French guy. He was
007actually really and uh he would like and I thought I was going to be a little too he and I love that guy. So I don't know he's now my mission for the first time. I didn't see a lot of time there. Yeah. How's James? Is he still out there? What a change though. They have so many from what I just keep. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. She said Japanese mentally because we're kicking now. and talk about people. No. Yeah, we were all No, we can't. We were follow and I will rough him up. No, but we do need We're going to shut him down. I will be prepared for that. I'll let Good idea. Mr. You the new special ed director. Yeah, I was just going to say we do this every month. I wasn't
008sure he knew. Yeah, just curious. Yeah, I heard the other guy was that right. Well, they say we're a lot alike. You got that right. You know, you never know. Well, I just met you. You didn't see yourself on that agenda. You're all there. John, John, he'll probably watch it on YouTube. [Music] He is He's on it. Sherry, thanks. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sorry about the confusion. Thank you. When Doug came out, I said it there's not enough like we had plenty. Well, they didn't. I thought they were in there and they weren't. So, Doug was thinking they were in here like they usually are. Oh, yeah. Cuz I didn't have them in there. So, there was some confusion. So anyway, luckily I said something to Ryan about it. He said, "Oh, they're in there." Oh,
009okay. All right, we get a yearbook. Wow. Wow. I know how to pack a room. Yeah. All right. You may may do what you want to do. Let's see. So I am it smells new. Oh, good. Um we Yes, we did. back. [Music] I think did the motion. Ryan did the motion again. But we're going back. Yes, we're going to go back. We will go back. What do you think? They are going back in executive session. Jiren, I don't have internet again. Oh, maybe here it's connected. There you go. It just is slow. She just made it. Yeah. Thank you, man. Where's our student? Where's the new president? An unpaid position. You can't expect him to stick around. Well, of course, unless you're in the work here. Who's the new uh student body president? Uh
010they will do that. I think they do that in the fall. No, no, we're live. Maybe this is going to be a surprise. Why are we talking about this? Isn't that fun? Dominic Stewart. All right. I guess the world knows now. Cat's out of the back. Oh. Hey Dave, before we begin, refresh my memory. Did we establish or adopt a 2minut limit on public comment? No, we can set that beforehand if we would like to, but that we don't we haven't had that. Yeah, there's no public here. Yeah. So, we can if there seems to be a big group. Oh, I see what you I'm not public. I know what direction you're going down now. Wow. Caught. You caught me. Yeah. No, I was just curious because I know it was something that got discussed
011and I couldn't remember the outcome. No, we we we didn't pass it through a resolution or anything, but we can set limits if we have a bunch of people here. Okay. Or if they start to linger on a little subject matter, we'll do it on the fly. Yeah, we'll see. But yeah, because I think if we there might be some discussions that might be longer than 3 minutes that is worthy of having and if we say you're at 3 minutes and ding a bell and stuff we still want to discuss or address. I don't want to be limited to that. Does that make sense? Well, I'm sure we have the right to extend. Yeah. Okay, cool. Thank you. You were just worried about somebody in the audience today extending their pretty unruly looking crowd in
012here today. We need to call an SRO. Yeah. Okay. It is 601 and I need to call to order the Uni County School District number one board of trustees school board meeting. I need a motion to go into that meeting. So moved. Second. I have a motion. I have a second. Any discussion? None. All in favor say I. I. I. Any opposed? Eyes have. That motion carries. Join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Okay, I need a motion to approve tonight's agenda. So move. I have a motion. Second. I have a second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. Any opposed?
013Eyes have it. Motion carries. I need a motion to approve the consent agenda items A, B, C, D, and E uh for tonight's meeting. So move. I have a motion. Second. I have a second. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Eyes have it. Motion carries. I hope nobody wanted to discuss it. All right, we can now move on to our presentations. We have no presentations, Mr. Chairman. You guys owe me dead. All in favor? We have no presentations for tonight. We will now move on to discussion items. Uh Mr. Thomas, Chairman Peterson, members of the board, just uh quickly just wanted to review the meet and confer agreement. I appreciated the board members that were in attendance and supported uh uh the board and the district. Um, as always, I think it went
014well. Um, like I said, I appreciate EA's positive stance and didn't get everything they wanted. We didn't get everything we wanted. But, uh, if you would like, I would just like to review kind of the points quickly, what ended up out of meet and confer. Number one, you can see the first one is salary and insurance renewal. Uh, four steps. The district will pay 100% of the health health insurance renewal with two benefit changes and a new certified salary schedule. The big winner, I think, in negotiations this year is certified staff and that certified salary schedule. We're probably one of three districts now in Wyoming that have a salary schedule that tops out over 100,000. Um, and I hope in the future we can continue to add to that. I think um it's just a
015necessary thing that uh our most experienced teachers can uh make a income that is worthy of them is probably the best way to put it. So anyway, that that's the good thing. Four steps for our certified staff is $3,000. Four steps for our support staff is um a dollar. And you can kind of see that one is four steps for certified. Second is four steps for uh um support. We adopted a new staff salary schedule. We went through it. I met with the EA previous to negotiations so they knew it was coming and and they had some good questions but we went through it. Um it will be effective 71. The health insurance I think again is a nightmare. You can see that with this increase it increased our health insurance almost just over $700,000.
016So 1.6 in new money, 700,000 of that went to health insurance. Um I understand that we need to do some things different and we'll continue looking at our health insurance. Um we'll talk a little about that later in the agenda, but what we're kind of planning to do, so I won't go through it now. Um so that total package is $1.795 million in those expenses. Remember, we received $1.6 $6 million in new money. How that works is some of this is salaries for reimbursable reimburseable employees. So we can go a little deeper into that 1.6 which we have. Um there is an understanding I think it's important uh EA understands and agrees that a base increase or a step is not guaranteed and is a permanent reoccurring cost and may result in a reduction of
017staff salary and or benefits for the 2627 school year if student enrollments declines and revenues from the state do not increase. Um that is one thing that's unique about our new salary schedule. Uh the goal is always two steps on the new salary schedule. has 50 steps total, which would be a $1,500 advancement for a year of experience, but we have the flexibility in a good year to give more than that, in a bad year to give less than that. So, it does provide us some flexibility moving forward in the future, which we don't know what's going to happen. Uh, proposal two is just $100 for workshop attendance. I can tell you that we've we're already spending money there. We've had 60 teachers last week um doing uh proficiency standards and and uh uh assessments.
018So, we're working uh they spent a lot of good time in the summer preparing for the next school year. Uh so, that $100 is a good good uh proposal. Use of employee benefit fund. Again, um if you recall, one of the commitments that John and I made the board is, uh we're going to pay back the amount of money used on the domes into the reserve. So, you can see that uh the EBF for the employee benefit fund for lifetime of service stipen is 100,000. We moved about 225,000 into the EBF. 125,000 of that is the pay back of the money we spent on the domes. We'll keep doing that until we get to that figure, which the board feels is appropriate. We kind of talked about a 10-year commitment to do that. So, um,
019that's kind of where we are with that and kind of shows where that is. I'll show you that in the the budget, too. Proposal four, um, 11 general leave days. We haven't changed that. And flexible days plus the earn days for support staff. We did have a pretty good discussion, which I'll show you at the end about, uh, the way leave is going now. Uh proposal five is a wow one point on the athletic attendance salary schedule which is about $125 per point. Um and that does still cost about $25,000. You can see that we're going to add to food service bus drivers and teachers the uh amount of money for substitutes uh about $80,000. So we do pay a little bit about for substitutes. Proposal 7 uh to allow horizontal advancement. Now, because of
020the new salary schedule, horizontal advancement is $1,500 instead of $750. So, again, another benefit of the new salary schedule. Uh, additional topics to discuss. Uh, we are going to continue the insurance committee. Uh, we'll approach you later with uh an RFP to go out to bid for a consultant to help us through that, explore a self-funded program, pros and cons, and also we've committed uh with EA to look at whisbait, our WEBP. Um and so that'll be part of that process. Um we received a proposal from Morton to do that. It exceeds the amount that we can do without going out to bid. So that's why we're going to request to go out to bid. Um let's see the leaves. We're moving to computer-based system discussion and suggestions on misrepresentation of leave by employees. I
021don't know why this is near and dear to me, but it just drives me nuts that we have one of the most lenient leave policy and we have people that misrepresent their leave. So, we've had some discussions about that EA two years in a row and we'll continue to work with our principles on that. Leave concerns about leave, including lack of banked sick leave and the use of leave during the school year. discussion will include changes to incentives, catastrophic leave, leave categories to clarify the district's position on the purpose of leave in a 185day uh school year, possible suggestions for catastrophic leave changes. What's happening and the trend we're seeing um is less and less employees are banking their sick leave. If you recall, the overall picture of our leave policy is to provide our
022staff an opportunity to miss school on those 185 days to do business they could not normally do at another time. Um, so if your son or daughter is competing, we allow them to use personal leave to go watch them compete somewhere. But what's happened is the trend of the new generation is basically exhaust all your leave. So, we've lost that idea that you're committed to 175 days with kids. If you have a situation where you can't, you can take leave. Now, everyone's going to take 10 days. So, what I worry about is those younger teachers not generating a sick leave bank, which they can use in the future, which they can use when they have children, blah, blah, blah. It's it's a trend that is worrisome. What we hear is they say, "Well, I'll just
023use catastrophic leave when I have that emergency. I don't need a sick leave bank. The other side of that is um the idea of the leave incentive. If you don't use your leaves, we're paying $100 a day for that and it still rolls into your sick leave bank. And it's not the incentive it used to be. $1,000 just doesn't seem attractive to our younger teachers now. They'd rather miss 10 days. So, it's something that again, as more experienced individual, I'm going to have to learn how how do we change that policy? um to make sure that we're protecting our employees in the long run and we're not um shortening the kids because that's the bottom line is if every employee used 10 days it would drastically impact the quality of our education system. So anyway,
024that's I'm spending a lot of time thinking about that. Uh the catastrophic program that we have, leave donation is a very good program. We don't want to take away from that, but I think there needs to be some safeguards in place. We've talked about a lifetime usage. For those of you that are unfamiliar, a certified staff can have up to 90 days of catastrophic leave every year. um we've never we've seen abuse but not in a large scale and we try to deal with the abuse one-on-one. Uh support staff only get 30 days. So you can see that it's talked about maybe cutting those days in half or a lifetime cumulative benefit um or eligible for 45 days. It kind of renews after 5 to 10 days. So the the EA was not opposed to
025any of those. they actually kind of I think like some of those suggestions because that's where that lead comes from. It's donated from our certified staff and our support staff. They don't want to see it abused either. They don't want to see it going away either. So, it is a great benefit um for those that truly have a catastrophe in their life. Uh we we support their salary. So, that is um that negotiated agreement roughly $2.194 million of expenditures. Um, I can tell you that and we'll get into this next month, but we still have uh money for our departments and for other budgets. Um, we're still kind of tightening that up. I'll I'll talk about the budget in a minute, but um the lion share of our new funds went to our staff and
026that's where it should go. That's always been my commitment and our commitment. So, anyway, that is the agreement that you will approve later. Any questions or any comments from those who are there? I the only thing I I did not see I have not seen the new schedule. Has that been distributed to all staff and employees? It has. I I actually do a meet and confer message video. Okay. And it goes out in an email and all of this is attached including that new salary schedule. Okay. I must have I think you get all the all staff emails. Yeah. Yeah. I just must not have paid attention. So, sorry. Yeah, I just I was there and and uh it was great to like you said, Ryan, that the funds we additional funds we received went
027straight toward the staff and being able to cover health insurance costs is a huge benefit so that these steps actually are raises instead of just going towards health insurance. So, um I think there's some major wins for our staff and hopefully uh the state keeps continuing to fund education. Well, hopefully on that one. Hopefully. That's all I had for that. Okay, we'll approve later. Okay, we can move on to discussion item B, draft budget presentation. Um Mr. Williams is not here. Uh he is taking a well-deserved vacation. um it he really had to crunch numbers to get to where we could provide $2 million in new revenue for our staff. So he was a definitely ready to go for a break. So um I spent some time with them talking about this. The best uh
028way to explain what he's where kind of where we are with the budget is his budget message update. Uh I think it's really interesting. The first paragraph deals with what the effect of the property tax reduction will be. And as we anticipated, the effect is declining revenues from the district and declining revenues from the from the county. Um, how that impacts us is it really doesn't because we have an entitlement. It will significantly impact the state because we have less local resources. That means the state needs to kick more into our entitlement. And you can see I think John talks about the decrease. Um it's 17% for the district and 22% for the county in terms of that assessed valuation. So it is significant. It'll be interesting to see. I would like to know how
029the state is going to maintain that. Um this will reduce the overall revenue into the school account, school education account statewide. So they're going to have to come up with more money for every district. Um it will be interesting. Uh probably u again we'll just have to see how it goes. It will impact um our city and county probably greater than us because like I said we have an entitlement. Um the challenge we have is we base our budget on the 100. We still have not received it. So these are all estimates. I would trust John's estimates before anyone else's um for several reasons. Number one, he's pretty conservative. Uh these are you can see the overall reductions in most of these accounts because of that 20 that uh property tax deduction. Um I I'm
030just going to hopefully you guys are okay going quick quickly to the this page cuz John summarizes it off to the side. So our guarantee is 38 million. You add in the special ed reimbursement of 9 million. Wyoming retirement. Um because we uh because our employees pay 3.68% of their Wyoming retirement, the state pays us our portion of that which is 547,000. Um offmodel revenues is our right now is our employee benefit fund. Um so you can see the total guarantee is 49 million uh in revenue. So 50 million roughly give or take a few and that's what we're anticipating for revenue. Like I said these are all uh estimates. Uh but from John they're pretty good conservative estimates. Any questions about that part of it? We'll go and John will be here next month
031and go into more detail with the budget. Um this last part um as of June 6 we do not have the may receive June revenues. So, we're not sure what's going to happen with that. How that works is if we receive more than our entitlement, um, we are in net excess collected. The additional money has to be reserved for next year. We already received money for next year this year. If it's less than our entitlement, we have a tax shortfall grant which the state makes up. That is a big part of our budget, but John cannot do that because we haven't received th those those revenues yet. Um, and if you can see again his guess, my guess is that we have a surplus based on last year's June taxes. Because those funds are received
032in the prior year, June 2025, they will gross up the fund balance and the revenue will be reduced accordingly. So, we should see an increase in our fund balance because of that. And that is not net excess collected. So, that should remain in our fund balance. If you remember, we talked about 2.8 8 million um when we were audited and he kept saying no it's really 3.5 million and I said John why can't you just say it's 3.5 million and he says well we haven't received it yet well we have so that's what he's talking about we have received that um there is a preliminary budget that you guys have access to uh meet and confer numbers along with staff changes operational budgets and all assumptions uh that are aware of are in that budget
033so as of now it's a pretty good draft budget uh these uh numbers some formatting will change but it'll be given an indication of the current status of the budget a month plus out until July 16 budget adoption calculations such as fund balances amended budgets and net positions will be added later. So again um kind of where we need to be at this time in our budget process uh next month at the budget hearing on Wednesday the 16th. So any questions? One other thing I wanted to let you take a peek at and this is our increase in mail prices which becomes part of the budget and I believe you guys improve approve later. We just thought it was good that you do that. I can tell you because of uh some effort very good
034effort on Sheila's part our director uh and increased meal prices our transfer to food service I think is going to be lower than we anticipated. Um the high for us is around half a million dollar. The low for us would be around $100,000. So we'll know that next month. That is really good news because that difference of 100,000 to 500,000 is 400,000 that we can put other places and where it would be is our uh operating budgets. So we're hoping that holds true. You can see that these meal prices are not drastic increases. Um, and Sheila can answer if you have questions. Uh, you can see our current prices and then the new prices. Uh, still extremely reasonable for a lunch. Um, and we haven't raised our prices in I don't know how many years
035has it been you at least five. Um, I spent time with the professional judgment panel today and this was something I really pushed hard is the state needs to reimburse either the transfers to food service or pay 100% of the food service like the feds did during co that would really be great for us and for every student in this state. So, we're pushing that. Hopefully, that'll go through. Any questions about the prices? Yes. Just great job, Sheila, on the summer school lunch program. I know Aspen's been busy. Did you say a thousand kids today or yesterday? Over a thousand meals just last week. Yeah. That's all I had. Okay. Oh, I had one question, Ryan. Yeah. Who who makes that decision from the state to reimburse us? The legislature. That's what I was afraid
036you were going to say. Yeah. So again, the the professional judgment panel are the consultants asking us questions what what's going well, what we think. They will make a recommendation and just from their body language, I think they all agree that the state should be paying for lunches. Um Colorado has gone that way and they've found uh great success. Um what we saw during CO was our numbers went up in terms of usage. Kids will eat. The sad thing is they don't eat cuz they don't want to pay the price and they don't want to fill out our free introduced lunch application. So I would even go for half, you know, whatever. Just help us, support us, reimburse our food costs directly. Um because we we work hard to use the co-ops to purchase our
037food and those prices are going up too. So, but yeah, it's the legislature. I personally think they would be more willing to buy lunches for kids than pay salaries for teachers. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We can go on to Is there any more discussion with that? No. Okay. We can move on to discussion item C. The first reading policy six designated facilities. Yeah, hopefully the first thing you see is we changed the name from um from what I I told you I didn't really like the name. I found one that used designated facility usage. Okay, good. Thank you. It is pretty straightforward. It is new. Uh the bottom line, this identifies as facilities as male and female. And it does allow accommodations, but the accommodations aren't to allow them in dressing rooms that don't match
038their gender of birth. Yeah. Should language be in there that says biological female, biological male? Because you can still screw that. I think the language is in there. I'd have to go back through it, but it does say I think at birth and uh if that's our if that's the intent. Yes. And that's that was the law's intent very clearly, I believe. So what it does is it refers to 213137 which is state statute that does I'm pretty sure identifies it by birth. Okay. Cool. I had a question just randomly when when I was helping with the women's conference which we you know provide have provided space for. Um, when we did that, we would tape a sign on the men's bathroom that it was a woman's bathroom for that day, right? Cuz, you know,
039there's 300 women in the building and it doesn't make sense to not be using all the facilities. So, does that does that can we still do that because Yeah, it's pretty clear in here. So for example, for the girls locker room during a wrestling tournament, we can identify it as a locker room for Green River visitors, whatever. So yeah, it's pretty clear how you can do that if necessary. I just wanted to clarify. Good question. Yes. So we will recommend that you approve this at first reading. Um, like I said, this is basically what was recommended by school boards with the new legislation. That's all I have for that. Okay. Any other questions? None. Okay. Discussion item D, first reading policy, inging, policy and procedures on service animals in schools. What uh and we talked
040about this briefly. What this has done is just taken uh there was some amendments to the law this session. It just adds that in and really what it is is the idea that a service animal is a dog that is not only trained but is in training. That in training is what's new and that you should be trained by a someone who's certified or by the um disabled individual themselves. So that's part of the new law. So those are really the only two changes. Um so we stuck right with the law. I I found it. I read in there about horses, miniature horses. I was I was kind of I stepped back from that went what what's this about? I mean, how many how many students do we have that need a We've had one,
041you know, but do we really? Mhm. But shouldn't I just find it kind of Well, it's weird how they've clearly defined a dog in a miniature. Those are the only two services. That's the only two services. I just can't imagine a miniature horse walking down the hallways of a high school. I mean, you know, if that's what a a child needs, then it's in there. It's clearly it's within this miniature horses are no and that's the law. The only two that are I mean they went through the grooming standards. I mean it's got to be potty trained so you know house train don't mean to make fun of it but I just kind of thought clearly defined one animal outside of a different one. Right. Right. So originally this came about because at one point
042in our schools we were inundated with comfort animals and so this policy was put together. We allow service animals that fit these criteria not comfort animals. So that really changed. You couldn't mean cats or turkeys or dogs or or dogs you can but snakes. Snakes snakes. That's the first thing that popped my head. Some kid wear the animal needs to be bring a dog though. It has to policy. That's what the policy say. Yeah. Or you can't just bring a horse. Yes. Right. We had an ex board member who brought a horse the last day of school. Right. That's a funny story. Maybe for another time. That was a long time ago. Any other questions? It is unique. I remember thin. No, we we but it's still long. Yeah. So, okay. Any other questions or
043discussions on service animals? No. So, will this go in effect next year? Uh 71. No, 716 second reading. Oh, it will go in effect next year. Next. Next on discussion items E, rule CKA, notice of intent to modify rule CKA. Mr. Thomas, there was a lot of red. Yeah. So, I passed this out. So, uh, Mr. Phillips and I took a shot at CKA with the new law. Um, and you did see that it's a lot of red. Well, the red you don't see is the regulations. Now we have four of them will also be gone. So you as a board, you have some choices. And Jeff, help me out here to make sure we get this right. You can choose basically to let CKA sunset and choose not to do anything else. Um, I
044think we'd probably still have to go through the process of letting it go, not do a policy, just follow the law. Some districts are choosing to do that. Or you can do something like this. As soon as we um, and I'll say require something of our employees, we have to provide the training. What the red that you see is requiring is they notify us that they're going to carry. Once they notify us, we have an obligation to provide training and initial reertification uh and certification that will allow us, I believe, and I think Jeff does too, if someone doesn't either meet the qualifications in terms of the training or violates anything in this policy in terms of use or abuse, we can deny them access by law. If we don't do anything, our first option,
045we cannot deny an employee to concealed carry. We cannot ask them if they have a concealed par carry permit. I think we're extremely limited to what the law allows anyone to walk into our schools to suspend someone their privileges from concealed carrying either if they were irresponsible for the way that they were concealed carrying. So, so, so I guess my question because there's so many different policies that come about and then you have to sign off on it. If if we ex we um because I don't want to say it's in conflict with the legislative body of what they passed. Do we have to have the employees sign off that they agree with this new CKA um rule that we have? The new law allows us to say if you're going to kick, if you're
046an employee or volunteer in our school and you're going to carry, you need to notify us and then we have to provide the training. Yeah. And actually, and I Brian and I haven't talked about this too much yet because we're still working through this. We're not ready for sure. But the reality is that the statute doesn't prevent us from regulating concealed carry as long as we allow it of our employees and volunteers. Our employees, volunteers, as long as we allow it, we can move forward with regulating it. So, arguably, we can pretty much do exactly what we're already doing. I I know that I don't think Brian wants to do that for a few reasons. Even if just because some of it's impractical at this point, but if the board chooses to keep what we
047essentially have and maybe make a few tweaks, we could do that as an option. We can do nothing. Although the consequences of doing nothing are significant. We expose ourselves to all kinds of liability. We have no way of suspending a privilege uh or right to carry uh if we have an employee or volunteer is misbehaving or abusing that privilege that right. Uh it uh there there are several consequences that are awfully risky for us if we just let it go. And I don't know what these other districts I think Ryan and I are anxious to see what some of the other districts are going to do. Uh we've looked at a couple and uh they're a bit of a head shaker. I I think that several districts are going to be working through this in
048a challenging way, but uh uh sorry, I didn't mean to take No, you're you're perfect. What cuz this is you guys realize this is this is a tough topic anyway, but it's going to be more challenging because of the work we've done, but less challenging because of the work we've done in the past. What I mean by that is we already had a policy in place that works. The reason why I'm not suggesting we keep our old CKA is because we put things in there in 2001 from between 2017 and 2001 because we had to to meet the court's obligation. We don't have to now. We don't have to specify the ammunition we use. So why would we? Let's take it out. Causes more issues. I believe it gives someone a better opportunity to sue
049us if the ammunition used wasn't what was in their policy. So, let's just take it out. Um, the training is in this new rule. I took it out of U CK R4, which is our training requirements. Now, it's in this. So, we don't need CKR4. It's duplicate. um trainer qualifications which is CKR CK2 is now in this we don't need a separate regulation and CK R1 is the application we cannot as I understand it um do a psychological evaluation have a um a requirement that they've been in our district a certain period of time right now we require 5 years or approval from the board we can't do those things. I think we can. I I think we can. I don't think we want to. I don't think it's fair to our employees. Joe Q
050public can come in without any of that stuff done. So why would we require that of our employees? We we don't need to. I don't think we do. If we don't do something like this, then we can't limit our employees or even know who's carrying. The other thing that we can do in this as you go through it, it's a mess because we cut out a great deal and added a great deal. Um, we can indicate that you cannot open carry in our facilities. I think that is vital the law. So, you can't come to this meeting with the gun on your hip. That's now in policy if we do this. So, what I'm recommending is when we get to the part to pass this is table it. Give Jeff and I another month. This
051is what we have to do to pass this. This is the nightmare. This is not a policy. This is a rule. So, first thing we're going to have to do is you guys are going to have to take a look at this rule and say we move forward with it or not. If we move forward with it, we have to follow this procedure. If it's not, I still think we have to follow this procedure to get rid of rule CKA. Yeah. So part of way or another we're going to be part of the process is a rule then the notice and then all the documents that are along with that. Um and then a 45day I thought it was interesting. 45day is what the law says but they recommend 50 something to 55. Yeah. So
052we would do the 50 because we've been sued on procedurals before. we would dot our eyes and cross our tees. So, 45 days, 50 days. We're not going to get to this probably until what, November. Um, we have to have, we don't have to. I want to have a public hearing on this. So, it's open and public. We have a new system where individuals can comment right on our board stuff if Sher and I can figure out how to do that. But anyway, that's coming. Um, you guys realize that once we open that that period, if you talk to anyone about rule CKA, you have to take notes and submit it as public comment cuz we got bit on that last year, last time. So, I gave you this so you could keep it and
053just realize this is a the rule making process was not designed for school districts. One of the things we have to do is post it at the county clerk's office. There's no s no such thing. We take a copy in and put it in a book, but we don't post that anywhere, but that's the law. So, um, get my recommendation. I think we need to move forward, modify rule CK that allows us to identify our employees, notify the police, work with the police in terms of this, provide training. Um the training has a certificate part into it, qualification part. So if they don't qualify, we can say no, try again next year. If they leave their gun on the toilet seat, we can tell them nope, you lost your privilege. If we don't do any
054of that, we we can't do that. So, um, so if we go down that road Mhm. and someone fails qualification, for example, and we say, "No, you can't do this." Do we then open ourselves up for them to come in and say, "Well, now you're violating my right." But that's what's nice. This statute allows us to do that. Yeah. Only employees and volunteers if we have a rule. We can't do that. Sue us if the legislators in power use the board to create regulations. Okay. Okay. So, it takes away their ability to sue us in the event that we say no, you can't. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Well, and clearly that we need to address that. Yeah. What we can't do is restrict concealed carry. No. On school property anymore. The interesting thing for me is
055since we've been through this since 2017, um I'm not really worried about the employee part of it. Other districts in the state are mortified about the employee part of it. I'm more worried about Yeah. people coming into our school and into the athletic events and into our choir concerts that are concealed carry. We cannot ask them if they have a concealed carry permit. We cannot ask them to leave. Jeff was telling me it's a $2,000 fine and a misdemeanor and I go to jail for a year if I tell someone I want to see your permit. Let law enforcement do that. But they've been doing it all along anyway. Yeah, they have. It's no real change. They've been doing it. Yes. But we could have done something if their gun would have fallen out at
056the wrestling match. Now it's the coach. I do think it's important that we notify that you you don't open carry. We can do that by this law. Yeah. Okay. Well, just as a safety issue. Oh, I think be able to know who among our employees are concealed carrying to notify law enforcement if there's an incident. I mean, for several reasons, liability, it's a really good idea. So is there a difference between making a brand is the question here do we make a brand new rule from scratch or we modify CKA into a into the rule that's the question that we have to decide yeah one of them and one is a six you know 60-day process go till November and the other we would have resolved there's only one process how we do this we
057have a rule that we have to deal with there there are things in our current policy that I really really like that other districts don't have the model policy that they developed for the new law. Ours is better. I think yes because we've been challenged in court now. Three times. How many times were we challenged? We did a good job though is the staff really came together to develop a good and the other part that has been left out at this point and is a big part of the process is our relationship with law enforcement. Um they were very supportive originally. We'll have to put that together and I guarantee it they want to know who's carrying in our schools and if you go through this hopefully the red doesn't distract you but it does
058allow us to communicate to their principles who's concealed carrying which would be nice to know. Um and we can't do that if we don't deop adopt a rule. So what what I think our notice should be is modify our current rules CTA and it it drastically cuts out fat. So our immediate role is to do nothing. Yep. Okay. Table it. I am so good at that. 10 minutes unless you have some ideas or suggestions. If that's true, then get in touch with us. Yeah. The law goes into effect July 1 though. So what where does the district stand between July 1 and when we finish our rule in CK is null and void July 1. Yeah. So employees could start the school year and we have no right to ask until we implement. Correct. Yes.
059Okay. But you guys need to know is we've gone ahead and scheduled training for those that choose to concealed carry. They'll go through reertification because actually I don't think CK would be known for we don't have if we don't have a motion to suspend it. Yeah. No, I still I guess it's legally authorized. Yeah. It's superseded by the new law. Yeah. I don't think it is though because we're still allowed to regulate the concealed carry for employees and volunteers. Now, it is if it and I don't recall if we ever mentioned parents, I don't think so. Visitors, but I don't think it's invalid. I think it's still valid, but but we're moving ahead just as if rule CK was in effect because we need to we have to schedule the training so far ahead of
060time now. And uh again, summer schedules are horrible to try to schedule the numbers that we have to schedule. Um one of the things I think would be important is that as we talked to our staff about this, this is a totally different issue than we faced when we originally went into CKA, you're going to get totally opposite arguments from the same individuals. Um cuz I have been approached by two individuals that were very big part of CKA, one in favor and one in opposition. And I tell you what, I don't know where they stand. We've been told that we need to require certain things from our principles, which we know the law does not allow. But in the past, that person's position was no guns in schools. And now it's the principles. you're going
061to have to ask who's carrying every time they come in. So, this is going to be totally different. I think you're going to have different arguments. Um, and we've done it since 2017. We've had employees that have carried and not had one incident. Not one person has said, "Hey, you got a gun on under your coat." Those are things we were concerned about. And the qualifications the qualifications are high enough that I'm fairly confident in those who have gone through that um they're safe. Individuals who hasn't gone through that not so confident. Since we do it, we've been relatively safe. Yeah. And good news is we kind of found a loophole in the law last year. So 100% of the money we're spending on training and ammunition that we reimburse, we're going to get back
062from the state this year. We also put in for our uh Alice training. Um we're going to see if we can recuperate those costs. Hopefully that they don't realize they created that law last year, this law this year, and more districts are going to take advantage of that, but we are. So, uh, we we had a we were ahead in the game. Um, I think we paid a little bit more because we were first to do this. Learning curve was steep. Um, I don't necessarily want to be the first to do this this time. So, that's why we table it. Give us another 30 days, then we start this 50-day process. We're in no hurry. um we're not going to have 600 employees decide to conceal carry one day. It's not going to happen. So
063anyway, um it's kind of where we are. So my recommendation here in a few minutes will be to table this and tell further notice, give Jess Jeff and I a chance to go through this and really what we'll prepare is that first round of documents. Um we'll have all that ready for you and then the board will have to decide kind of the direction to go. Do we do away? Do we modify? And I can show you I have a draft policy which I think is interesting from Cheyenne where they're basically saying we're not going to do anything. Oh, you you just did you created a policy that said we're not doing anything. So, uh, interesting. But we probably won't follow that exactly. So, anyway, that's kind of my recommendation. I just envision there's going
064to be some opposition from the complete opposite end of the spectrum as we move forward with this. We're going to oppose any kind of restriction that we might have on exactly law. Yep. Y Okay, that is the last of our discussion items. We can now move on to public comments. I'll come up and as you approach, please give your name and your address and we're going to limit to you for 3 minutes. Okay, no discussion it uh no dis public comments. We will now move on to our action items. So, I hope everybody had a chance to review the personnel um uh within our documents that was emailed to us. So, I need a motion to approve the position for the dean of students for EMS and DMS as discussed or identified in our documents.
065Mr. Chairman, I'll make that motion. I have a motion. Second. I have a second. Any discussion? None. All in favor say I. I. I. Any opposed? I might have to have a count. Okay. So, I need to have a count on that. I only heard a couple of eyes's and I need at least five. Five of us to for this. So, I don't know if I had five. So, I need a motion to approve. All in favor? We'll just go right to there. All in favor say I. I. Okay. Any opposed? Eyes have it. Motion carries. I'm not going to call for roll call. We were loud a little louder that time. Chairman Peterson, you can skip B. We already approved the record agreement and the consent items. So, if you have comments, we'll listen
066to comments. No, we are. I think there are a couple of comments that we would like to make. We already approved it, but there are still some concerns that uh Mr. Wheeler and and uh Mrs. Whailing has brought to my attention. So, if you guys would like to maybe talk about that a little bit. Um, the grass is dying. They're not watering. It looks as as bad as it did a year ago. So, uh, we have a record board meeting on Thursday and that is, uh, needs to be addressed because it's not, we've already we've had, uh, principal Peterson call in and, um, director, uh, Jared Dennis. Um, we're paying for the water. We told him, "Pour the water on. Don't's not paying for it. Just pour the water on it." Um, hopefully they'll do
067that. Well, uh, a month ago it looked great. It's beyond really. Yeah. I was I was there. I was there Saturday and walked in. Is that good? So, I don't know what their excuse is here. Dad can ask them and go from there. Yep. Yep. Who's on that committee with you? Who's on that? Brian. And a lot of the scuttlebutt on Facebook people complaining. They're like, "Well, call the school district." on because it's not the school district, it is the rec department. Yep. Okay. So, not happy after all that crash last year. Yeah. Yeah. After the I mean cuz that was the main good conversation. We brought it up last month and she seemed to think everything was good. So, I did drive by last month. I haven't driven by since. But no, it's not
068good. I guess scary. I feel like we're about to be enlightened. Okay. Mr. Dennis, just um just for information, as Superintendent Thomas um referenced, I did visit with Kim yesterday um as I was up there. Um she told me that they were having issues with their controller. I said, "What is it that we need to do to help with that?" She says, "They have it fixed." And I said, "Does that mean that we will have water starting what is today? T Tuesday." and she said yes. So, um, the difficulty we're having as a district, and I'm sharing this with more so with Brian and and Dan, is we have no control. Um, the controller they have, they have complete access. It's a um a digital controller and and we don't get we've have asked for
069access, but they have not given us any control of that. um my recommendation, if I could make a recommendation to the board, um if nothing comes about this year where we're happy, I would propose that next year we as a district take owner full ownership of that property as far as maintaining and and controlling that. Um, I've visited with our loans and grounds and our maintenance guys and and they agree as well. Um, I know that there's going to be a financial expense as we do that because I'm going to basically hire an individual for the summer who will do nothing, but we will go through that entire system so that we can be comfortable and make sure that it's at least looking like the rest of the property that that we own. So, so
070I'm going to ask this question. How is it possible that we have no control over the water that goes onto our property and we're paying for the water and we're paying for the water? I this a great question. But it's not just a great question. I mean, how is that possible? How has the city got control of the water that we use? It was the same conversation I had because as you know we took over Evston um field football field and I am still having conversations with them to say hey we need to have control of this if not I'm going to cut the wires that are going to the football field and we will put our own controller um because it's ours. We're maintaining it now. We should be able to do the things
071that we need to. Not just maintaining. This is where it's upsetting to me. Aspen is our property. How are they controlling the city of Edmonton, the park of w controlling our water on our field? So, is there a memorandum of understanding that was Well, that's the agreement we just Yeah. approved. So, specifies that it does more detail, does it? Yeah. It doesn't say who has control, but they're to water, so they have control, but it should be a they should be our system. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Dan and Brian, let's push that way. This needs to be fixed by the rec center, their responsibility. And I don't think by next year. I think it's got to be rectified within the next couple months. And I agree. This has to be rectified immediately. it needs to
072be taken care of. But if not, I I would like to take full control and you as a board, you know, that's something that you would determine. But this is year five that I got calls and it's it's difficult. I can Yeah, but we've lost trees. But my point is, can somebody go by there and see if there's water? No. I guess my point is this. We've lost how many mature trees up there and other trees that there is a dollar value associated with that from their lack. I do think those trees came from the right. There was some water this morning. Why did we plant them? There was the pine trees were losing left and right and a lot of that's due to lack of water. Um, every tree that has been planted on
073the field on the soccer portion there has been part of the Arbor Day tree planting. And we have this is the third time that they have planted and have not taken care of of that. And a lot of it's due the lack of water andor maintaining a perimeter around those trees for mowing. And well, this is not going to look good to them, especially when they want 40 or $50 million to build a new aquatic center. A lot of community members are going to say, "You can't take care of this. How are you going to take care of that?" I will tell you, yeah, I was very bold with um Kim yesterday when I was up there and I said, "Look, if I'm calling you, I'm sure others will be." And I said, "We will
074be having a board meeting tomorrow night and the wreck mail is part of that discussion." And so, just be aware we're not happy right now. And I will be relaying my unhappiness to the board. We can convey so Brian and Dan to them that we're not we plan to believe me and I share your sentiment. So well and we we informed them that uh not the board meeting last time but before that you know summer's coming it's spring summer's coming you need to do this pour the water on it as what we said there and that hasn't been uh taken care of that their obligation has not not been taken care of. So it was clear in the meeting or in at least one of our meetings, it was made clear that all eyes are
075on this and so it needs to be dealt with. Last meeting, wasn't it? Yeah, it was last meeting. Yeah, there was water when I drove by this morning. Yeah, that's good. So the water of that, I guess. Okay, that's hope that we're arguing about something that's already been resolved. I guess we'll find that out. Yeah, great question to take to your board meeting. I appreciate that. The other part, Jared, is you probably need to go out there and look. If there are parts of the field that are to the point where they shouldn't be used, they need to find someplace else until it grows back. Yeah. And I think we can tell them that they have the the field down by the ponds now. It's dying, too. Okay. Well, that's not ours. I know. Yeah,
076but it is. Let them kill their own field. But that may be necessary is to say you can't use this area of the field. I think that's just one portion. But them having control over what we water it don't have access that's got to be taken care of immediately. We need to have the dual control. I think that's I need to log in to be able to get into their system to be able to to do the things so that when we have conversations like this, I can say, "Look, I've looked at this and this is what's going right now. I have nothing but conversations based on what she shares with me and then I have to just take it from there." Yeah. So, thank you. Thank you, Jar. Thanks. Thanks, John. Okay. Well, that
077was nice. We'll move on to I opened it up. Sorry. It's okay. We'll move on to action item number C. The first reading policy of the sex designated facilities. Yeah. If we could change the name of it. Yeah. Let's let's call it designating facility. Facility. Designated facility. Policy. ACF. Designating facilities. Yeah, facility usage. Thank you. And you called it what? Designating. Yeah, I know. ACF. ACF. Mhm. Designate or designate. Desate it says designating facility. Our intention is to approve that tonight. Yes. First reading. First reading. So we need approval on the first reading of the policy designating facility usage ACF. So moved second. I have a motion. I have a second. Any discussion? Just one question. It says sex in the policy. Is that correct? Should it say gender? It was really in the title.
078I don't know if it says sex other places. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm just we and again we can go through it and make sure okay we look at that first reading we can check it that's why I didn't like the title I think it may have been the only place it was there right okay any other discussion all in favor say I I any opposed eyes have it motion carries we will move on to action item D the first reading of policy ING policy and procedures on service animals in schools. Motion to approve. Second. I have a for a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. I. Any opposed? Motion has it. Uh motion carries. Eyes have it. Motion carries. Okay. I need a motion to table
079rule CKA until a later date. So moved. Second. I have a motion and a second to table uh rule CKA. Any discussion? Is there a time or a date that we want to re revisit this 30 days from now, 60 days from now? We'll we'll have it on the agenda in July. July. We'll bring to you the documents in that first section. Okay. Any other discussion? None. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Eyes have it. Motion carries. I need a motion to ratify the meet and confer agreement. Someone I'll second. I have a motion. I have a second. Jenny and Jessica. Yep. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Eyes have it. Motion carries. Um we're going on to action item G. Approve mill prices for the 2025 2026 school
080year. Motion to approve. I have a motion from Brian. Second. Second from Dan. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Eyes have it. Motion carries. Going on to action item F. I need a motion to approve to go out to bid for insurance analysis services. Uh Chairman Peterson, members of the board, this is uh John's request that we go out to bid for services. Explains kind of what I told you is uh Wharton the original co consulting service was $7,500. They proposed $4,200 for the work to move forward with what uh we agreed to and meet and confer. Um that exceeds what we can do without bids. So, um John is requesting and I'm requesting to uh you approve the district to solicit requests RFPs for insurance analysis services. I'm sure we'll
081get more than just Morton bidding. Um and we'll have a competitive bid. So, you can see that it'll be twice in the paper. We'll encourage Morton to continue to bid. Talk to Morton today. They're good with that. Um, August 12th is our kind of our deadline to have that decided. Okay. And then that was it was 42,000, not 4200. Yeah. 42,000. 42,000. That's why we have to go out to bid with it. So, what is our max on it? 4 25. 25. Yeah. 25. So, okay. All right. It It says here 42,000 annually. So would we would we put it out to bid again the next year or I have at this time I have no interest as in continuing services longer than one year. One year. Yeah. This will be a one-year contract. Okay.
082They would love to be a part of us annually consulting company. Motion to approve going to bid. Okay. Second. I have a motion. I have a second. Any more discussion? All in favor say I. I I. Any opposed? Eyes have it. Motion carries. Chairman Peterson, members of the board, you would think this is one that I would not forget. Somehow we skipped over the superintendent's contract. I don't see it on here. Personnel motion to table. I have a motion to I agree that I don't discuss it in six months. [Music] All right. It is part of our action item so we don't have to modify our agenda. So I need a motion to approve the U action item personnel superintendence contract. So moved. Second. I have a motion. I have a second. Any discussion? None.
083All in favor say I. I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Contract approved. Thank you. No more action items. Um, we can now move on to the board round table. Do we have any comments from the board? Yeah, I do. Okay. Um, I live right by Clark School and I noticed that there's a chainlink fence being put around the playground and I was wondering why. Yeah, we will now be addressed by the knower of all things. We're going to be enlightened against. So last year about this time um our insurance company sent an auditor out and looked at all of our properties and one of the things that they found us delinquent in for safety and security was not having a perimeter fence around that field. And so um we are trying to meet those requirements
084and so we've moved forward putting that fence. There was also a request from um principal Fesler as well about that same time too to create a safety and that's what I assumed. I just was hoping that there hadn't been an incident that had uh pushed that along. So no incident good thankfully. Um and hopefully this will be a a good thing. Um again just a for safety and security there. Yeah. Now I got to figure out someplace else to walk the dog place. just off of uh your neighborhood there. There is the the opening right there as you come off of the uh Yeah, the retaining wall. Yes. Yeah, we'll still maintain that opening and then we'll have the one on the other side. So, good. All right. Or just throw the dog over the
085fence and you can catch it on the other side. I also have some input. Okay. Um I was privileged to hand out diplomas at Horizon High School. on graduation. It was the first time I've done that and it was to me a very touching um opportunity. Um I was impressed with the pride of the students who were graduating and the involvement and the pride that was clearly evident in the parents and and and family members and friends that were in attendance. And uh I wanted to offer congratulations to Brandon for the work that he does and what he's accomplished over there. And as most of you know, I have a Verizon student that works at my business with me. And uh he has great things to say about that program and it clearly operates in
086his life. And so I just wanted to offer congratulations to Brandon Horizon High School and everybody involved with it and uh and thank them for the opportunity that I had to participate. Great. Sounds good. Any other discussions? Okay. Good. I need a motion to leave the Uni County School District number one board of trustees board meeting. I move that we leave second. Sorry, I got a motion. I got a second. Who was the motion? Brian Brian. Um, any discussion? None. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Eyes have it. Motion carries. We are done. I would ask that we go back into the executive session. [Music] Yeah. Okay. Did you make a motion for that? go back to executive session. No, I was going to just go back into it now and then make
087a motion to start. Okay. We never actually ended it. Okay. And it will be no business. You will adjourn from any We will I will adjourn in there. Sounds good. [Music] Do I need to sign