SRCS Special Board Meeting - February 21, 2025

001good afternoon everyone does that sound okay all right um now opening the February 21st 2025 special meeting of the Santa Rosa City Schools Board of Education please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America America and to the repic for it stands one nation God indivisible with and justice for all all right thank you everyone for being here we are going to start with public comment on the agenda item only however because this meeting is essentially a continuation of what we weren't able to finish on Wednesday night um I'm going to really limit public comment since we heard a lot on Wednesday I'm only going to take 20 minutes of public comment one minute each um I'm going to rotate or alternate between students and

002non-students I'll call three names at a time uh where Podium over here all right so if you hear your name please line up behind the podium first is Leah GRL followed by Alexa Forester followed by Mike aeno Leah Gabriel I I have your card sir yes Leah okay is Le Gabriel So School for she was very courteous and even provided me with the translation good afternoon my name is Leah Ruby Gabriel I'm a student at LC Allen High School I come to represent all those who could not come thanks to the fact that this meeting was held at 3 in the afternoon on a school day so that neither students nor teachers can come but here we are with the permission of parents Guardians caregivers who give us their blessing we could get here by

003public bus since everyone had to work to support us and they could not bring us the LC in school needs to remain open because if they close that many of the students there will have to go to work since they don't have the opportunity or the budget to travel from their home to another school farther away I have heard with my own ears that parents will be making an inhuman effort to be able to take their children to to another school so when children see this they decide to go to work or this directly or indirectly affects and is a violation of the students rights thank you so much thank you next is Alexa Forester followed by mikeno followed by David Benjamin gr bam hello whatever you decide today we are closing six schools and

004shifting to a 7 through 12 model and we are here to find out if you're going to give us an additional challenge in addition to those six schools neither of the scenarios you considering the 331 nor the 33 pause will lead to good educational outcomes neither will Foster safe supportive learning environments and importantly neither will lead to long-term fiscal stability that is why the only way forward at this point is a resolution to endorse a 330 with a 340 as a final back stop taking closing high schools off the table entirely our high school students and the seventh and eighth graders who will be joining them deserve the stability of knowing that you are choosing to invest in their schools permanently if finances are not improving in a year we do not reopen the high

005school discussion instead we keep doing the hard work of incrementally increasing Revenue decreasing costs and removing inadequate leadership thank you thank you next is Mike asencio followed by David Benjamin gram followed by Eduardo Casia s is Mike asencio here is uh good afternoon members of the board and Dr Morales I come to you today to share how much your decision this evening can not only affect just the 10,4 students with the entire Southwest Community don't close the only School located in the poorest minority and a privileged site of Santa Rosa we are already walking miles on rainy or EXC excruciatingly hot days we are not privileged to have a ride to school every morning because our parents need to work LC Allen is our Pathway to our dreams our parents once had these dreams but

006needed to give them up so that we their children could dream even bigger please keep LC and high school open thank you next is David Benjamin gbom followed by Luis Eduardo Cas amre followed by Andy bunnel um R&B rushed and botched that's how it would Define the way the district has handled the whole school closure issue how is the board supposed to make proper decisions when every day there are new proposals and major missing data everyone here wants elsc Allen to survive but we also can't be back here in a few months trying to save a sinking School District ship because the board made a poor decision today based on incomplete information we at mon monery High School were the first ones to step up and say we would welcome seventh and eighth grade students

007into IB program and we'll be working hard all summer to be ready for the fall so I'm sure you can understand why the Montgomery Community is concerned about the current 33 pause plan how it rageous is that we would be on the chopping block again in just under a year absolutely unacceptable so trustees if you can find a way to make sure this plan is absolutely financially prudent and also to assure us that Montgomery is safe please don't vote on the plan today thank you next is Luis Eduardo Casas umre followed by Andy bunnel followed by Marlin Gabriella [Music] chz that was Eduardo from LC Allen you thank you for the opportunity to talk uh the CDE database shows that LC all in enrollment declined 2.5% versus 133% for Montgomery and 17.8% decline for Santa

008Rosa High School let that sink in again Mr Nick Mr Mark and Mrs Sarah tell the Southwest Community why you you want to close Al Allen can it be your relationship with Maria CIO Mr Mark or Montgomery Mr Sarah or possibly finding a secure site for CCL Mr Nick I plead with you listen to the data and choose Equity over bias thank you and again as I said I'm alternating between students and non-students so next is Andy bunnel followed by Marlin Gabriella manhar Ooa followed by Dwayne DT hi I'm Andy bu hopefully I'm not screwing us up because I'm reading for a student that I work with but hello board and thank you for this for your time my name is maai Parker and I'm part of the counseling enrich program at LC Allen High

009School I've beening attending LC Allen for 6 months I've grown accustomed to the school as a new transfer student I don't want to change schools already this school has been going well for me because I'm part of the counseling enrichment program or set for short this program has helped me to get accustomed to the school LC Allen this program has also helped me be better in the classroom and in school in general I also ride my bike to school as my parents both work I feel like riding my bike 5 to six miles would would be draining having to wake up early enough in the morning to commit across town hopefully beating traffic so students can get to school on time writing your bike or walking five to six miles a day can cause the

010mental health of students to decline affecting the performance of the students in class possibly leading uh the said student to fall fail in school it would be a poor decision to close LC considering the fact that LC has a of students have come from low-income families or multilingual sorry sir your time is Special Education Service you next is Marlin Gabriella manh Ooa followed by Dwayne DT followed by cor Carol Nora [Music] Santa Rosa City High School good afternoon my name is Mara manhar as student of LC Allen High School uh I wish my parents like you had time to help protest for SRO to be on campuses or to plan or encourage other parents and community members to attend a weekday uh call to action March however many of our parents Guardians and families in

011the southwest have to work one or two jobs to put food on the table as leader of the srcs board of directors we encourage you to pursue the passionate Community involvement you share with mcgomery in the southwest of Santa Rosa 2 come get behind the scenes of LC Allen High School and keep K lcen High School open thank you next is Dwayne dwit followed by Carol Nora followed by Erica leanovich hello my name is Dwayne dwit I'm from Rosland thank you to all your volunteers please continue this matter and rethink your decisionmaking process 56 years ago Cook Junior High School switched to double sessions to save money it worked 5 hours in the morning 5 hours in the evening 1 to 6 many students were able to continue their education nothing was closed down and

012things worked really well the Southwest needs to have even more education keep Elsie Allen keep Lobos I'm on time thanks thank you next is Carol Nora followed by Erica leanovich followed by Nicole Nora Mar M Mr Mark I expected more from you you have demonstrated exceptional leadership skills in your several years as President and Vice President of the nonprofit 501c3 booster club at mariao and is a new member of the srcs board of directors why is a leader like you not willing to help magnify our enrollment we want to be leaders we also have hopes and dreams next is Erica leanovich followed by Nicole Nora followed by Megan kovi hello esteemed board Erica leanovich I agree that we absolutely need to be fiscally responsible and I pray that we are presented by sco with a

013path forward that allows us to keep all our high schools open without simply putting us back here next year trusty Casten your comments about attendance on Wednesday got me thinking as a clinician who has practiced Family Medicine in Santa Rosa I thought the school note that I provided my patients absolved them from their absence but I realize now that any absence excused or not does not put money into our District's pocket I believe there's a huge opportunity to partner with our major health centers across Santa Rosa to discuss the importance of offering afternoon and weekend appointments to our school-aged patients doctor thank you Dr Ry out and I have already initiated this conversation with Santa Rosa Community Health and Kaiser Permanente I encourage all Healthcare Providers to join us by making scheduling system changes and

014educating our clinicians about the importance of sending kids back to school when medically appropriate I know we will see improvements in attendance and therefore our Revenue in the district will improve let's work together with our HealthCare Partners and as a community we can do this thank you next is Nicole Nora followed by Megan kovi followed by dianara Padia much [Music] s for that message was from Nicole niga also from LC um Mr Nick you shared publicly that you are ready to roll up your sleeves and serve as an official member of the Santa Rosa City School Board of Directors on December 21st 2024 I'm a student at LC Allen High School and as you said I deserve to learn in a safe supportive and stimulating environment which is my my refuge my place of safety

015lcen High School is a safe supportive and nurturing environment for all of us who live in the southwest of Santa Rosa Mr Casten you have shared that you are committed to working hand inhand with parents teachers staff and the entire Community but I've never met you have you ever attended High School LC high school before it is not the case and I invite you to come and see our community built School come to us and work hand inand to discover you can collab you can collaborate like you do at our neighboring School uh hash education hasht Community hming a difference next is Megan K followed by dianara and then we'll see if we have time after that hi my name is Megan Ki I work at Slater Middle School as a 7th grade math teacher

016the district not board District's lack of transparency about how the 7 through 12 model will actually look like is unacceptable yesterday we learned that if Slater close only 340 of our students can move to Monty this decision was deliberately withheld from us and will shatter our community Slater is more than a school it's a home staff is the backbone of our success and separate us separating us will have lasting and damaging effects students rely on trusted teachers and a stable environment yet we have no clear answers on how Staffing programs or student support will look on top of that expecting teachers to push a cart from room to room instead of having a dedicated classroom is unacceptable having a classroom is more than just four walls it's a space where students feel safe and supported

017taking that Away dimision ises Learning teachers need their own classrooms we lack a strong leadership at our school we do not trust our admin to make capable time is up next is dianara Padia High School school Miss diara would like to say I'm the student that you Mr Nick Mr Mark and Miss Sarah are knocking down I come from lcall in high school where no one supposedly wants to send their students do you want to know how long it took me to get to this meeting I took two public buses at the from the public bus stop with my colleagues at 1: in the afternoon my sister could not attend because she had to work but she gave me her blessing and permission to come home to come and represent all those in South West

018Santa Rosa who could not attend remember me I am the face of LC Allen High School I am Southwest Santa Rosa my future is in your hands all right one more person Logan caper Middle School is tough as our kids become young adults at our middle schools we offer them everything we can to keep them loving school and to reinforce their love of learning at Slater we have specialized facilities for athletics our Full Slate of music classes drama class culinary class industrial tech shop class arts dance science biodiversity what's going to happen to these programs in the interest of merging our schools our district Personnel said that we're going to have to get cre for a few years to make this work getting creative means losing these programs losing the very things that we have

019to that keep kids coming to school are we going to keep our families if we have nothing to offer them other than stressed teachers moving from classroom to classroom on carts teaching in Portables with none of the extras that can make Middle School interesting and joyful for our students thank you thank you everyone so that concludes public comment we will get back to our discussion I'm I'm very sorry but we took public comment on Wednesday and we really we need to come to a decision today um so trustees we ended in a deadlock Wednesday night is there anyone who has new thoughts today take trusty Canon and then trustee delator Casten why do I keep calling you that I'm sorry at this point words are difficult um so I greatly appreciate sco being here uh

020and in the interest of moving our conversation without additional presentations to begin with I would like to introduce what I believe Could Be A Way Forward um for us I relistened to and took to heart the words that trusty de la to mcnali and maner uh sat on Wednesday night and equally went back and worked with the stakeholders uh throughout Santa Rosa and throughout all of our schools communities and believe that we are all trying to balance the best interests of each and every one of our students I also went back and reviewed and worked with staff on the constraints and concerns about multiple aspects of some of the scenarios we were looking at um in all regards and I hope what I am about to say can uh bring us to a discussion that

021moves forward in two parts because what we have left to talk about today is our secondary education system because we took the vote to close Albert bellaa steel Lane and Brook Hill on Wednesday which is a decision that I wish we had had more time to spend on and hopefully we can talk about it and the impact on those communities after we find uh way forward for the rest of the district looking at the secondary in two parts this is a way forward that would not result in the closure of LC Allen High School it's a way forward that would restructure LC Allen High School to use a problem-based and experience problem based learning and experiential methodology for their instructional Styles which is a type of education that we do not currently offer within our

022district it would incorporate the University Center the public health track and the public safety track track that are currently very successful it would propose new comprehensive maps for the 2627 school year and similar to our actions with steel Lane provide a phasing and prioritization uh for transfer opportunities in year one to students who would have new comprehensive neighborhood Maps while also providing a prioritization option for those in Southwest Santa Rosa to be able to transfer into and stay in the really structured LC Allen High School on the 78 we would have a twoyear we would return to a two-year phasing where and considering information about con constraints we would look to have Santa Rosa Middle move to Santa Rosa high as a 712 program in year one and through corrected and accurate information that I

023greatly appre appreciate the Montgomery capacity space that was discussed throughout the community of being only 340 spots was in fact the bus needs number for Montgomery in year 1 and the capacity of roughly 550 spaces in year one would be available to move the entire Community including the French American Charter School in year one making Montgomery the other 712 in year 1 with their existing facilities and then in year two commstock would be the one that closes to address the capacity issues at Piner that would need to be addressed in order to bring that in as a part of this proposal similar to the specific programs that were discussed with the LC Allen restructure we would be specifically looking at wood shop and culinary programs for the 78 students at uh the Montgomery campus as

024those are the unique facilities that would be needing to transition that is the overview and I um I have lots of comments but I want to focus on the solution The Way Forward um and so I will ask for thoughts and questions and discussion thank you director Casten um thank you community for being here I do apologize that this meeting this afternoon is even necessary um I apologize that a new plan is now coming forward at the 11th and a half hour not in the 11th Hour um and it's a plan with accommodations that a lot of hard work has gone into in the last 48 hours to try and even see what was possible because every single one of these trustees and the community was not comfortable with the options that we are looking

025at um so I appreciate that aspect and cannot implore enough the Gratitude to our staff to try and find ways to make other means possible my message to start is to the board directly and to the community and to the disheartening perception of the community that we are a split board and that we are a new board versus an old board and that we do not all share the same vision in unity to provide the best opportunities possible to educate our students throughout the city of Santa Rosa the moment we took the oath of our seats we became the Santa Rose City School Board whether you took that oath two days ago two months ago or six years ago we are the Santa Rose City School Board each and every one of us and when

026we inher inherited that we inherited all the decisions that came along with it before us good bad and indifferent along with the challenges so we need to own those we need to respect those and we need to be unified in having active conversations moving forward on how are we going to do better how do we present ourselves better how do we communicate better even during the painful tough conversations that we don't want to have we cannot open with a unified decision out of the gate without having an active conversation there are six Minds today to work on this problem as trustees and once this process is closed we'll be back to a full seven member board to work on the continued issues because I can tell you no long matter how long you're in this

027seat these problems don't get any easier to solve and the way public education is funded is on on a lot of Hope and wishes and hoping that it'll work out we actually do our funding models on projections on hoping what will actually happen and through best efforts and then we got to see what actually happens with those students I loved hearing that if you can get your attendance up at LC by 4% there's an amazing amount of numbers there so I don't want that only on elsc Allen and their staff to figure that out that should be the goal of the district across the board to make sure us as trustees are directing our staff to make sure we are involved and providing opportun unities and following up on if those opportunities are working to

028raise enrollment for all of our campuses and actual attendance to answer those questions of why an unexcused absence doesn't count there's a lot of legislative work that can go into this that we can direct and advocate for to make sure we have better funding models for the future of Education this is not a these aren't heart-driven decisions these aren't pragmatic decisions that is a collaboration of all of our efforts to make the right decision move forward these seats not only represent our mind and ideologies but the mind and ideologies of all of our constituents and we are responsible regardless of our area for the entire District of Santa Rosa so we reach out to all of our campuses all of our communities and any Community hurt is a community hurt by all of us I

029appreciate your opening director Caston I appreciate the opportunity to discuss further option and hope that this board can come together together to get through the hard things and show a better unified front to the community that we are not an old board versus new board but that we are the board of education for the city of Santa Rosa and that we will do better for ourselves and most importantly for our students I saw trusty Jenkins and then trusty man's hands um about the new idea um it's about Athletics both for the middle combination to uh the seven and 12 combination I'm so sorry I'm so fried the just the Athletics for middle school as well as continued Athletics for um the high schools that will likely be condensed my words are completely failing me today

030I'm sure everyone relate um but yes because because I had heard uh in one of the many meetings and many hours about the possibility of using um the previous facilities for athletics uh so I'm just wondering kind of flushing that up I I understand the question appreciate the trouble with words um I think many of us have been working for many hours at this point so um I'm going to I'm going to State and hopefully staff just corrects me if I'm wrong but let me read State because there's a lot of conversations going into uh this into what I said um the vision for athletics for 712 campuses is that there is a 78 program that is Thoroughly connected into a freshman sports team program that does not currently exist the reality of the steps

031in year one and two as we work towards that vision is that there will need to be Vans there will need to be work in order to support the sports programs that will continue after our strategic planning process and the logistics of when we get there is going to be as with many of the programs that are not specifically referenced earlier a part of the strategic planning process that we are going to be engaging on and um I I it's hard to add certainty to it because of all of the things that we had to work to bring certainty for and this is one of the places that certainty is going to need to rely as director de la Tor said on our ability to come together and a strategic planning process to realize that

032vision of Unified sports programs and bringing that freshman program in somewhere to our neighboring districts and as someone who really supports that Middle School sports I am in faith leaving that not in the motion to get to where we need to be today knowing that very shortly that strategic planning process will be where we talk about that just to follow up on that um so when we're talking about strategic plans are we diving right into strategic plan or is this something that happens at the at the staff thing I just want to have kind of this as much of a clear picture as we can so with a strategic planning process it involves the entire community so very much like we built our scat Community Forum representations we would have a representation from each of

033the schools and as well as administrators and the team that actually makes all of this happen so it's going to be a big group so the idea is to put out um the scope and the purpose very outlin in terms of what we want um by maybe beginning of April so that people can sign up and we can have a preliminary meeting um in June so that we can really start the work in August or maybe mid mid July depending we'd have to see who in The Who in the committee can meet during July but the idea is to begin almost immediately so it took us eight months to get to this process and again we're presenting a new plan that sounds pretty good to a lot of people and we're going to keep talking

034about it I do have an extreme frustration with the thought process of starting a strategic plan to make this work in August um this has to start right away whatever that needs to look like we cannot tell our families that we are going to do something new and different and we don't have a plan on how that's going to be successful um it is human nature to avoid what is unknown and different and if we lose a conservative 400 students to attrition because in our middle schools that we're repositioning because they are not comfortable with the 712 model that's $8.8 million we're losing so we need to be very clear about how this moves forward and we are not wasting time we're not taking surveys we're not pulling out to the public we need to

035work on this now to make sure we have a plan that's going to work or our families are not going to send students to something new unless we have a better representation of what that may look like um so I I understand I heard the words April June August we need to fast trck that so that we can put the work in sooner so we can actually tell our families what take can expect Rusty C Casten in order for us to stay focused on this item before us could we agendize the strategic planning process for our first meeting in March after the first public he there was a very large list of ideas that were presented including many by me that were reported in the paper all of which a part of getting to hear

036was asked to be in the Strategic strategic planning process and I agree we need to move quicker I also think that if we move to talking about that now we can lose focus on this so can we agendize it for the first meeting in March and that's my request trusty Kirby so again the reason we're here is because of the fiscal part of this so I want to hear from the staff if this new plan is fiscally sound and gets us to where we need to be Logistics over here to get the microphone close enough thank you uh trusty Kirby um if it's at the pleasure of the board I will share the the slides that that we've put together so we can provide an overview and I'll specifically address how we believe that we

037can get there I know I'm figure out going where also oh is there a bad glare that oh oh okay yes there we go perfect okay thank you okay so I wanted to have this up here just as a reminder in case we go through you know as we go through any any questions related to the as with any of the scenarios we are looking at the difference between what's a positive a negative or a qualified and we believe that the best way forward is with a qualified in the shortterm to get us to a long-term better fiscal status with a lack there there are a few things with with a decision today we will still need to provide more notices on the preliminary side with the expectation that as we go through this process

038and determine what that looks like coming back those will be pulled back between March and may very strategically based on what is decided to move forward what what that new structure exactly what the implementation looks like it is much less than what it would be without a decision today I want I want to to clarify that and be very very clear that yes we will be providing more notices than are probably needed in the long term but it provides us with the space to determine how we can do it in a fiscally responsible way and it's still less than what it would be if the board were not were to to have what happened the the other night where we don't have a decision and clear direction for us to move forward it will require

039more borrowing or transferring of Interest so that dollar amount is higher in the short term again we expect that in the long term we are going to be in a much better fiscal position and that all of that will be able to be transferred back into into the bond fund those are unrestricted funds that can be used it was our goal not to use them in operations so just a reminder of of the conversation that we've had around that I'm trying to remember the other I'm sorry it's been a it's been as all of you it's there there have been many yes oh thank you okay um I'm I think everyone's brains are are really tired and so I think maybe this is just a checking of my understanding Lisa it sounds like like it

040sounds like we're doing something that the community's been asking us to do that we haven't maybe done in the ways the ways in which we we could have and it sounds like if it sounds like we are rather than trying to solve this issue simply by cutting we are actually investing because we know that that has greater outcomes in the future is that we we can't invest dollars that we don't have however what we can do is focus the dollar the resources that we have rather than spreading duplicating everything across the board trying to do everything everywhere so it's really about tightening in the resources to be able to take a pause not not a pause for implementation but to take a step back in our thinking and how in planning and and implementation so

041that we do it right you know it's it's I see that that's really what we're what we're looking at is giving this the space to have it ready for next year by not trying to over commit and leaving opportunities open because we do expect that there's we we would expect with the that there would be a recommendation to the board related to Charter authorizations there are things that depending on board action over the next couple of weeks that we can potentially include in Revenue projections at second interim based on on specific actions so there it's being very strategic about how we build next year's budget and how we plan for that by in the short term saying okay we're pulling back and taking a really hard look at where we can make adjustments and add

042back basically pulling down our our ba to our Baseline that's going to require our lcap being revised because that's one area that there are things that we've plann to do that will'll have to shift in ways to support our unduplicated pupils got they're things of that nature that it's an overall relook at our budget that we wouldn't normally be doing in this in the going into the second year of an lcap we will likely be you know revising substantially the the goals and actions based on the community input that we're receiving through this process and that that's really the intention I hope I hope that that help the answer it does thank you it also does require as well as we spoke about before the other day um related to the sixth period day versus

043the seven period day there are there are pieces that the things that we spoke about the other day don't change that that still has to happen and this was uh I know you said sko was here in the audience yes oh just wanted so this was also discussed with them they're on board they understand what we're doing here correct and so if you if you if at the board's pleasure we can introduce our school our um scope partners and can share what our discussions and processes yes I'd appreciate that and I and I do want to say that I'm very appreciative of sco taking the time yesterday to meet as well to to you know re um to recap kind of what happened the the other night so that you know understanding where we were

044I'll introduce we have Dr Carter um Greg mediche and Sarah lampenfeld of course just uh thank you for having us uh and just as a reminder for the board the Soma County Office of Education has a responsibility to uh verify and authenticate the budget uh we have state responsibility to make sure that you're fiscally solvent uh three years out we serve as a thought partner uh but we do not make decisions of course about about your spending uh and I know that uh Lisa and my team here have been in constant contact uh and in the preparation of this plan uh and I'll turn it over to my uh CFO Greg mediche to add anything to that director Kirby was there a specific element that you wanted to cover or or well I mean yesterday

045we we were told there was some new information that couldn't be shared and I two days ago gosh yeah um I don't know if that information is available to be shared uh in public or there was that plus again I was mainly just asking that since you were here that that you had been involved in the process more aware what what we're planning to do here thank you clarification yeah there is no new information all the information that srcs staff has shared is uh the information that we all have and we have uh we have discussed that information and it is sound information and and and the board can feel confident in making decisions from there try delator thank you Greg thank you Amy thank you Sarah for being here um I just want to

046express my gratitude and reassure the community that sko is our partner they are overseeing all of the districts within the county of somoma and we have been working on this within partnership with sko this is they're not directing us they're just they're like Dr Carter mentioned a thought partner um and there are a lot of things we can work on collaboratively um really appreciate you taking the time to be here and your mere presence is a vote of confidence in the community that we're not trying to do this alone that we're doing this with the right partners and the right positions in place and that we overall are trying to increase the advantages of public education throughout the county um so I know you guys put a lot of time and work in to your

047positions and I appreciate you bringing that to our meeting and to our district so the community can see who we're working with and why that's so important trust you Caston similarly I want to comment I think a part of this was at 11:20 at night or so 10 minutes roughly before we were going to Auto adjourn under our bylaws we started talking about this information without really being able to explore the content of it and having had the opportunity to go back and discuss it and Carter I appreciate your staff's availability and Outreach it was all information that had been known and had been a part of the previous previous proposals and phasings in contemplation with more specific recent information that validated um everything that our staff our our staff had told us and I

048apologize personally for my reaction and a lot of that had to do with four hours into a very tense meeting to question the Integrity of the data because what I heard that night versus what I heard when I Rel listened to the meeting the next day were very different things um and so I Rel listen to the meeting and that meeting information was consistent with staff's information was consistent with what sco did in the probably close to 20 hours of phone calls I've had in the last 24 hours um and the Integrity of the data the Integrity of this process is firm and solid and the difficulty is in the decisions we have to make because of how much money we have and in the compromises we're making for the quality of Education that we

049seek to provide and the hope that this is a plan that leads to better quality better enrichment opportunities with builting in as much time as we can to try and phase it not as much time as we want as much time as we can to try and phase it um so all I heard in the last day was validating our staff's data and that there was not actually new information it was just how it came up any other questions for go Jesse Jenkins I know we've talked about it a lot the community's talked about it a lot about and we've talked about it so much positive negative qualified out of cash but since go is here can you guys please walk us through as basic wording and like clear as crystal clear as can be

050one last time how this works because it's scary right like we're on the edge we were positive now we've got this deficit and you know we want to keep local control but what does it all actually mean thank you so much for being here too that's I sounded like a thank you so much for being here that's not how that meant to come off uh before I turn it over to Greg Medi to kind of walk us through this I think if you go back to that original positive certification letter in that positive certification letter the santaa City School Board submitted an agenda um a budget that identified 25 millions in Cuts those cuts were not named at that time but there was no reason to not believe that those were being made and so

051for that reasons that was a positive budget there was a plan forward we're all now in the thick of things of identifying those 25 million uh and if we fall short of that uh and we submit a budget that hasn't fully cut that 25 million that was identified in the positive budget then we step into qualified uh and I'll let Greg just kind of walk us through uh what that what the implications are for Santa Rosa city schools so the state has three budget certifications positive qualified and negative uh as Dr Carter stated uh positive certification and specificness Santa Rosa city schools would be associated with the the data that that staff has poured over so that both in the current fiscal year and two forward-looking fisal years uh all of the financial data shows

052that all Financial Obligations will be met uh from there qualified status and you know the kind of the Webster dictionary version of qualified is it literally means and the state has a definition that is also pretty simple but it literally means something has to happen so that and something Financial has to happen so that that positive status can be restored and but for something happening positive Financial abilities will not be restored and then that's where and A continuing State at across kind of a a the three-year multi-year projection but but pretty quickly and early on in the three-year multie projection if a qualified status is not addressed then a negative status which is the the uh the most difficult standing uh of a certification for California school districts means that there is imminent risk and

053likely Ood that Financial Obligations will get in such a state of disrepair that things like payroll and other core functions of uh Financial Obligations will not be able to be met so in all of these designations were put in place uh in the early 90s uh they were put in place because a school district there over a thousand school districts in California one school district in the Bay Area actually was very fiscally distressed the state had to step in they set up a new criteria of these three designations since then there's been over almost 40 fiscal years of a thousand school districts that's 40,000 school you know combinations and less than a hundred times because of the diligence in the process of of kind of taking seriously the qualified certification less than 100 times has

054a district kind of Fallen totally into uh negative status and even less so where a district had to receive State dollars to kind of continue uh their financial ability uh so where Santa Rosa is right now and the recommendation of staff and again to reiterate Dr Carter's point in December the facts and and projections that were associated with that December positive status were were sound and valid and then as as as board is working towards uh a second interim uh certification the board's actions will allow for staff uh to kind of continue those assumptions and know what is a permanent and real uh assumption versus kind of uh an assumption that that was envisioned in the fall and so second inter room is the next certification status and just to land the plane there multiple

055uh seasons of not having a balanced budget uh does result in local boards losing all authority so you know individuals such as yourself are no longer able to make the decisions for your community uh and so I know that's why this is so crucial that we keep decision making in the hands of our local leaders uh and rectify that position and stay as far away from State Control uh as we possibly can trusty delor so I think it's very important for the community to hear that um we are listening we have listened and if we move forward with this updated scenario that means that opportunities have been given for you to step up and step in like you said you were going to to help our campuses and help our students and work collaboratively with

056us and help us um provide the opportunities that all of our students and families need um so thank you we're listening we want to work with you with that being said we had a long night Wednesday night we got some new information now is there numbers to this scenario or do I just say scenario updated for the motion I I have questions too whoever needs a motion it motion it and let's get moving I'm thank you I move or we'll have more discussion after a motion right yeah let's just get them let's get on the tabl we're talking about the specifics so I move that uh of course I did I'll share I'll share the screen again thank you so I move that LS Allen would be restructured in would be restructured to provide programs

057with problem-based learning project based learning thank you everyone uh that happened multiple times while this is being drafted all right LC will be restructured to provide targeted programs with problem-based learning project based learning using experiential methodology incorporating the use of University Center Public Health program and public safety program the 2627 maps are adopted as presented which we'll need to present in year one priority will be established for students to request a transfer to their homeschool same process of stealing in year two the maps will be in effect in year one Slater in Santa Rosa Middle School will be closed and merged with 712 programs at Montgomery and Santa Rosa high in year two comto will be closed and merged with 712 program at Piner and Montgomery will incorporate a 78 culinary and wood shop program

058is there a second second all right further discussion trusty manary thank you um first I want to say Nick thank you I can't imagine how much worth You' put into this um thank you for listening to our students and to our community oh man I thought I was over the emotions thank I just want to say thank you I know for you um and I just wanted like tell my you know trustees that are new to this board and thank you D director dor for saying what you did earlier about old board new board that's not what we are here um I I sat in your seats when when I first came to the board in 2019 I came on to the board in 2018 late 2018 and in 2019 I sat in the position

059of having to close a school in my trustee area and I voted for that um and so I just want you to know that I a lot of I do feel I do feel for the the positions that you're in I know it's not easy I just wanted to say that I was reflecting on that secondly um this sound this this sounds great right um I think a secondary reorganization is a good idea um and I have a lot of questions and so I I I hope that everyone can can bear with me um I am coming from a place of you know maybe asking questions that our community might also be having and they haven't had the opportunity to weigh in on this particular scenario that's being brought up and so I just I

060I really hope that you'll bear with me with these questions um again I think a secondary reorg is is a good idea and I I like this idea for like all of our high schools um I I think it's really important that we do hone and we've been talking about this honing in on the Specialties of our schools because we can't do everything everywhere I absolutely agree with that um that being said uh does this plan so going back to the finances for just a second does this plan include the savings that we have been talking about from going from a seven period Day to a six period day at LC yes it it it includes the savings so that means we still go from a seven period 8 to that is still necessary that

061is still necessary okay Vicki can speak to it I heard okay pull the knob up the little button up okay let's see can you hear me um okay so there was a when this was brought up um the I spoke with the principal from Elsie who um was able to work collaboratively with his uh Union reps and they did a straw poll so it's not aici but based on the straw pole is Catherine holding up the thing yeah I don't even have to turn around to know what she's doing um So based on the straw poll an overwhelming majority of the staff is in favor of reverting back to a six period day if that is what is necessary okay um thank you I I appreciate knowing that I just wanted to know kind of

062the full implications of this of this scenario and I want to go to the boundaries um what what are we looking at can someone please walk us through what we are looking at when we're talking about changing the boundaries for Els in this scenario please yes so there is a few changes these boundaries follow closely what we currently have with a few changes that I've highlighted with arrows so there is a Eastern movement of the boundary for Piner High School in Northern boundary from Piner High School currently is below 101 and it will move up towards the east and the new boundary between Piner high school and mariao will be markwest spring road and Cross Creek Road so um up on the top of the map for year one um there is also um a

063the northern part of the LC Island boundary um currently is along the creek that will in instead be extended to West College uh again for Piner will be brought back and that Little's liver of land will go to Santa Rosa High School uh in preparation for uh the collapse of the attendance boundary of LC Island sorry say s say can you just say that the in preparation for the collapse yes so the idea is for in year two LC Allen will not have an attendance boundary and will become an open enrollment School if if I could add into that explanation for a second the restructuring of LC um will be a program educational program format where we would still want to give our uh folks the opportunity opportunity to go to a comprehensive format because

064there this will be this will be different because of the methodologies in curriculum so similar to accelerated Charter Schools you know Pro Project based and those types of solutions what would happen and this is all AR not BP is that the transfer prioritizations under understandings if people can correct me I got Stacy over here was already looking at me um it would be that the students would have the priority based off of need and then similar to ccl's Neighborhood boundary the pr priority based off of residents to be able to go here or then have the option and choice to go to a comprehensive program so neighborhood students would still be able to attend LC alen yes through through can someone walk me through that process I because I I know what how it works

065at ccla and you know and so I is it is it like that or is it different um there's going to have to be a lot of polishing as we take a look at how we transition this but um similar to some of our campuses that currently have specialty programs on the campus itself so you could consider something like Piner high school with Early College magnet Piner high school students serves the people who live in that area but there is a large contingency that attends because they have applied and been accepted into the Early College magnet program so students who live in the LC Allen traditional area would have the right to attend LC Allen and participate in this specialty program but students who live in what would be the traditional Piner neighborhood or Coro

066neighborhood or Santa Rosa High School neighborhood would be able to have priority to go to this program applying like it's a specialty program they would not displace the neighborhood students but it would become an attraction to be able to participate there like what we have with programs like IB at Montgomery like what we have with ECM at Piner or the uh art Quest program at Santa Rosa High there will need to be a little bit of nuance in terms of the prioritizations but we're already proposing those kinds of adjustments but so so would LC neighborhood students have to apply no no so then why how is that different from Piner Piner still maintains a boundary why does LC give up its boundary it's a restricted B bound is no longer restricting homeworks correct so because

067the curriculum at the school would not be is going to be the spe the special program the students in Southwest Santa Rosa will have the right and they'll be some of the only students in the city that will have the right to attend two schools in the prioritization they'll have a right to attend one of the continu comprehensive high schools and they will have the right to attend LC Allen and they will have that choice with a prioritization that would exceed other opportunities as Stacy was describing and the reason that we would not want to propose a change in the boundary and and the prior the specialization and all of that in the first year is to give us that year to plan what that looks like exact to come back with all of the

068details and make sure that we can implement it well okay I think where my I think where my head is going is thinking through all of the and this is just how my brain is wired um thinking through all of the potential unintended consequences um I again I just want to be really clear that I will'll do almost anything to keep LSC open in potentially even voting on this if it's not perfect right now it sounds like we're we're going to get time however I just have concerns a real Equity concern concerns around this um and and I'm hoping somebody can talk me through those like I I I can I can see unintended consequences that would not you know like I'm I'm thinking about the default right like right now students some of them

069choose Elsie and some of them default to Elsie and so now they're defaulting to two different schools and that doesn't I'm not picking up on the question but I need someone to walk me through that okay um I'm gonna try only because I share your experience with the whole ccla cook and and I I feel where your fear is coming from so I'm gonna try and address what I think your question is okay um so different from what happened with the ccla cook and the students having to apply and getting in in essence this would be the LC Allen School of residents for for all intents and purposes because anybody that lives in the LC Allen boundary would not have to apply to go to LC Allen they would just be able to go to

070LC Allen um what this does for students who may want to make the track to another school is basically what we've been doing which is they apply through an interdistrict transfer intad District transfer to go to another school um it would probably be the same number of students that are already doing that so I wouldn't anticipate that at least in in my in my thought I would not anticipate sorry my phone is ringing um that many more students would choose to go outside of the LC Allen boundary what this does allow us to do though is to bring a more project-based learning approach um and focus more on some of the CTE programs and the University Center which will remain as an accelerated program at LC Allen so I don't I don't feel that same

071trepidation like what happened when we did the cook ccla so that's just hopefully that helps assuage some of what you're feeling but I don't know if it answers the question because I don't like we don't know the questions so it's not a charter school so it's you know it's not the same process there it's it's different it's more more akin to a magnet type school right that that's a good question but not comprehensive question mark as in still it it doesn't what that looks like is what we get to figure out next year as far as whether it's called a comprehensive or an alternative or a magnet or whatever that looks like it's more about the the the options that are that are available there um is my understanding as far as from from that

072side of it the way I understand this is it's a start to put us in the right Direction what to build and envision what I'm feeling from what I think you're feeling question would be we do not want to build a program that becomes so popular and amazing that it displaces the neighborhood students that that's what we're talking about so when we're talking about boundaries and eliminating boundaries um as we build this and Design This and again we may not need to talk this all through today but just to understand that when moving forward we're working on this is that there will be a comprehensive version available on that campus for students to choose that there's going to be Project based learning opportunities for students pursue that but that we're not going to build something

073that outgrows the community with that we're trying to support mostly with that campus by applications overrun top priority of students that live around the corner situation I sorry did I think what would reassure me and maybe folks like I'm seeing faces on the audience too um I think what would bring a little bit of reassurance is if we can if we could develop like an automatic enrollment mechanism something that we know we can see it families know it's it's not just this nebulous like well if kids are in the area then they go to LC automatically like I think we need a mechanism and and if we move through with this I I we that needs to be a requirement we really need that that is the intent of this there are several things that

074aren't in the motion that are intent because they're either appropriate for the administrative regulations or the number of hours needed for us to craft it in the board policy subcommittee would be you know more appropriate to to get there but um I that what you were talking about is the intent okay then I'll just say this oh sorry Sarah I know um then I'll just say this too that I think we also need um an understanding of where where our students kind of the attendance area around LSC so that we do also understand who is who is currently going to LC and ensure that any mechanism that is developed um is is is is an alignment with that and before trustee Jenkins speaks because this may be exactly what she's about to say there is

075actually also an intent and a need because of the speed at which some of this was done for the feeder School District boundary maps to also be there there's going to be some cleanup here um and and developing that understanding of what you're saying and then also there is there's need to figure out the feeder School District boundaries make sure that we're not accidentally cutting off like one neighborhood that we missed in the map development so my understanding and I'll let Emanuel confirm this is that there's work in the future of course and the attendance boundaries are a prerogative of the board and can be changed any time really we don't want to make too many changes because it creates confusion and but we could visit this uh boundary um as soon as whenever we

076want next week trusty Jenkins I'm related to the maps I think something that would be really helpful I am geographically not great um but and and but whatever however you want to say it with the maps it would be extremely helpful when we're talking about changing the maps to see what it is now with The Layover um I think that would be extremely helpful just so that like us as a board as well as the community can see what is coming ahead um regardless of if we're tweaking things and um but we it just Mak me so nervous I agree I agree with that um sorry feeder middle school that is a big thing right I think the excitement around LC and the 7 to 12 was we get our feeder back um so what

077are we doing there so my understanding from you we were we weren't proposing moving to 712 next year because giving a year to figure out exactly what that looks like but the expectation would be that in that oute it actually becomes a 712 program so we do get 712 and year two yes okay so do we need to amend the motion to include that because that's not stated yeah so the the second year two that is Santa Rose hry so the um was the original question Peter 712 712 thank you uh 712 um was not specifically stated in the motion because Steph needs time to develop the 712 program so that we could so that it could be St we don't want to bind them uh with the intent and so that was an N

078but I I'm happy to add it to the motion if I get thumbs up from staff oh so my concern with that is we're saying the staff's not ready to add 712 but ready to add 712 to other campuses about not ready it's about developing the curriculum so can can we add it is everyone on board okay I add I would like to ask my second if I can add 712 to the motion for Elsie yes please because I don't want that to get lost in the if we can clarify that the intent at this point is 712 in the in the second year yes yes because currently LC has no feeder program and one of the purposes of this is to rebuild that into their community so they have a localized seven a opportunity

079when I just asked about this new program at LC um LC has a a huge percentage of English Learners is that still going to be taken into account and supported in this okay trusty Jenkins so many questions we'll see if I can get them through my brain um I do want to address the Santa Rosa thing though can we put that back up I I'm working on it sorry thank you so much that's why I stopped so he could take over uh okay so while you're doing that a different question is what are the numbers this sounds really expensive to me when as we're talking about it and I thought we were trying to go the other way so I want to I want to know numbers I want to know want to look clearly

080at is specifically because I feel like we may be talking about two different I'm not quite sure this has gotten big so one thing at a time if we can let's look at the maps so I pulled up the map that we that I showed on the PowerPoint now this has in Orange the current attendance boundaries and as I was Orange Lines the Orange Line yeah sorry so there is a change up here to the north where the attendant boundary for Piner for down here is moving up all the way to markwest Spring Road and uh Cross Creek Road and so Piner attendance boundary will move um eastwards um all from those two roads all the other boundaries remain the same so the Montgomery boundary is the same the S Roa High School to the

081east is the same's boundary is that big yes holy cow um and then as I was saying there is um a little flipflop uh between Santa Rosa and Piner down West College that will create this weird Panhandle um for next year and it's just in preparation for um the combination of the Santa Rosa and NC tennis boundary plus there is this um Montgomery High School gaining a little bit of boundary to the West all the way to um I want to say this 101 and so those are the changes that are uh very minimal in year one we try to keep them as close as possible but we would like to set up uh for uh the new attendance boundary uh for year two so this would be the plan currently for year one um

082the other thing that I think is in the resolution is to give priority for students in these impacted areas so for example students that are currently in uh these uh West College neighborhood if they wish to stay a pioner they will get priority to apply and receive an interdistrict transfer to automatic interdistrict transfer by calling the school to stay at Piner right so they are not forced to move if they wish to stay there the only people that will need to reapply are as new students just just a comment on that that is the same model that we are using right now with our elementary school families because with your decision that was made Wednesday night even though some of our families did not have their current School Clos the adjustment of the boundaries to

083allow balanced elementary schools did change so there are some families who um without moving houses adjusted their neighborhood schools we are currently working with our elementary schools to allow because as we stated at almost every meeting if you are currently enrolled our number one priority is to support your continuing at your current school and so if there is a boundary adjustment with a Piner or Montgomery family who used to be living in a particular neighborhood and now that impacts them our goal would be to support if they are interested in staying at the school that they're currently enrolled at here two are we ready for your two out well I have with your one I I see a couple little pockets I'm assuming those are just missed on the little colors where there's where there's

084no color but within our within our current boundary there's but there's no like little colors like are those just details right no those when when we when we our current we had to transpose our current attendance boundary from a picture to a computer based map and uh it's really difficult to follow our attendance boundary so we did our best to transpose it but um the colored one is actually our official School boundary um as it comes from the state of California so when we drew the original computer map um we had some errors that will get fixed with the new one I have um a cons full of concerns uh Santa Rosa so Santa Rosa currently as a huge chunk of purple that would you that would be Santa Rosa and so by this by

085year one I know purple is Piner right purple's Piner but for currently right now there's that big group up in the this I don't know how this is looking on yeah so sorry there is um so there is this one here to the left there is this island it's currently at Santa Rosa high and then there is this other next to it currently is mariao they will be transferred to Piner well they will but they can stay where they are they are bying right yes um and so through their track does that also mean that if there's somebody enrolled at s Rosa Middle right now since that will be converted to a 712 that they are good if they're at Santa Rosa Middle in seventh grade right now and they're going to Santa Rosa High

086next year and they're in this little Piner spot can they stay at Santa Rosa High till 12 please say yes um okay so all transfers and I'll well let's see so what we would be doing is first and foremost supporting the rights of families who are currently enrolled to maintain that enrollment we are then looking at a reprioritization of the different qualifications for a transfer and I'm not prepared yet to share publicly my proposals because I have to bring them to Cabinet before I start advertising them but if it is a student who has never attended the school before they would fall under the traditional priorities as they get revised so you know we we cannot write a plan to guarantee that children who are not out of school you're guaranteed when you get old

087enough to attend a school because enrollment fluctuates every year and we would need to evaluate each year the ability to accept new enrollment because what we don't want to get to is a place where we have to say I know that this is your attendance area you can't go there because we've allowed too many transfers so we have to be careful about that I do get that and if we're talking about combining Santa Rosa Middle on Santa Rosa highest campus and we have kids who are in seventh grade this year who are planning on going to Santa middle next year if now they're going to Santa Rosa high they were if now with all of this stuff that's you know especially the last two months or whatever and we're telling them oh yeah Santa Rosa

088Middle's most likely going to convert with Santa Rosa high and now they're that's just a that's a lot of whiplash like welcome to the work that I do I know now our our current uh policy is to ask families to reapply app every time there is a change in a school setting but there wouldn't be a change in the school setting that's where I was going so uh we currently don't have a 712 so we don't have understand that buil now if by you know board direction is if you are already on a secondary campus as a seventh grader you can stay there until 12th grade we can build that into our transfer policy and get that set up that way so that there is no like reapplying to say the same school just because

089you're going from one side of the campus to the other side yeah I know it's a ton of case management to to make sure that everyone's handled but I think it's extremely important to make sure everyone is handled well through this and each of the families I I mean I know it's hard it's going to be hard um and I mean I I can't say let us know how you want us to support you but let me know how you you know for myself I want to be able to support as much as I can but I it's so much changed and I just want to make sure everybody's handled well and and one of our practices is when we have addressed situations that are kind of large sweeping qualitative changes like what happened with

090the redesign of the former cook campus for a number of years we did not sit back and expect our families to seek us out we went proactively to the families to check in because we knew that there were some families who would need some additional support we would use through this process a bit more of a search and serve model to support our families because we know that there are some families who will be very proactive to seek out the transfers that they want and we have some families that are going to need a little bit more of an invitation we would use that same kind of practice through whatever scenario gets created respectfully I have something negative I'm not meaning to be negative but I have to say it is that this is so

091much bigger than the transition I mean maybe it's not I wasn't here but this seems so much bigger than the cook ccla like the the search and I'm not going to say the right word thank you I was going search and seizure and that's not right um we just got to do it though well and and we have to remember that when we talked about the cook ccla um transition that did not impact cook and ccla uniquely right that impacted every single Middle School across town right and so it was on paper dealing with a small neighborhood area but it carried far-reaching impacts we will have to do that same kind of care through this because what you have been been working on what our community has been working on for eight months is massive

092and this is going to take a full court press to do this well and I'd like to bring that to the Forefront of the table that this is not just on us so we can definitely incorporate and collaborate with Community Partners and parents and families to be part of this solution with us to make sure everybody's getting where they need to be and is comfortable and understands that um we have a very limited staff we are doing Leaps and Bounds above what we thought was possible just to try and keep assembly of normaly why we're making huge changes at the same time so it's going to take the community to work with us and we look forward to those Partnerships um and providing opportunities to work together and to if I can address your question

093about cost Yes again we don't have any additional money what we have is where we free money up in other ways and part of that is through that why we know that in that first year we have to get through with those additional movements the rewriting of many things in our lcap that focus on how we provide the extra Services direct anything that's above Base Service is what we need to identify you know we have to say okay here's the minimum that we provide for everybody and then anything that's above that is where we look at the LC cap the supplemental in concentration to be directed towards the um unduplicated pupils and how we address that um the interest transfer the negotiation of the of the million dollars the and that's where we have next

094year in planning and knowing where changes in policy that the board will become you know that will be coming to the board that will impact we expect substantially a change in the out years in looking at revenues but don't we need numbers like we need we've been looking at numbers this whole time we don't have like a we don't have a dollar on this we can we can pull up it's the it will be the same as far as the the we won't have the cost savings it will be the eight it would be the 331 minus the one correct yeah it would be the 330 minus the because it's that second year it it's that second year implementation so it's kind it's in between those too yeah yes here I'm I'm going to let

095uh to look at the one that we shared the other day here yeah the oh oh because I'm sharing yes sorry uh the the savings are exactly as the ones that we uh shared under the 330 334 savings um so roughly are going to be the same uh six point uh $8.6 million on year one no because of because of the removal of comto yeah because remember that was phased that wasn't listed as a phasing it was listed as all three so it will take us a second to to swap that out well one element of this is we are introducing so what wasn't present in our previous conversation was an investment in a new educational model to meet each and every one of our students where they're at that we don't currently have and

096so one of the things we talked about early on is where are we going to have the ability to invest in new and better things and so part of this is taking the uh is saying that this is one of those new and better things um and that means that we will be able to compete and attract students that are currently going to other programs that have a closer style of Education to this and there are multiple programs in this area and adjacent to this area that this model will be able to compete with so one of the biggest challenges and everything we've been looking at is yes about what happens with cuts and we have no ability to put into these Financial mod models what we're anticipating for attraction and this is giving us

097a concrete way to compete to attract students that are going to programs that we don't don't currently have the ability to offer or compete with so there's there's we don't know what that attraction is today but we do know over the next couple of years because of students going to schools that have a similar model that we will be able to hopefully start attracting them back and gaining back that ADA trust your Kirby um so the I got a couple questions written down here the prioritization the hierarchy for um for our students I heard you say we develop it and take it to cabinet and then Implement do we vote on that as a board no it's administrative regulations so we have board policy that gives us the capacity to be able to name those

098priorities so we would not have to wait for a board decision to be able to make those adjustments but you can we can have board direction for that as well correct absolutely and um that could be guided with your work through Dr Morales sounds good yeah um I wanted some assurances also from director Odin that uh since you're there I bring you into the conversation um that what we're proposing can physically be done guess that's the end of the chord there to lean in um yes what what I see here is physically possible yep okay just wanted to ask you and it actually by by the delay of the closure of commstock that's actually it makes it more feasible for us to do that because Piner was where we had the struggle with facil nice

099okay I got more but go ahead if you want to chime in on that that one um I'm curious what happened with Piner and Slater because it seemed like with a lot of these proposals that it was no problem like comck was the one that was under enrolled like that was the reason why those two schools were chosen um and it has shifted gears to the most populous the middle schools that we would be putting on an unfinished School site like I just want to I I don't really understand that and it feels a little bit wonky especially since we just heard on Wednesday that the building's not going to be done I know that we have capacity on Montgomery but the building not being done until October it seems like so much in such

100a short amount of time with so many people and additionally at some point I would like the Slater thing to get um just whatever that H happened yesterday this is It's a thing up here but um yeah so so we so what happened was at some point someone saw a slide and mistook the number of students being bust for what we were projecting the enrollment to be so that I don't know where exactly that happened but that's where that number the 340 versus the 554 that that's where that number came no I'm talking about sorry the um okay as far as the the reason that we would be recommending and and the conversation in this com stock versus Slater has several things one because of capacity because there's more capacity at Montgomery to take all

101of Slater than there even without the building then there is at Piner to take all of all of the 78 transfer it it just because of facilities capacity also when we are looking at 78 options remaining open for another year as the board asked for looking at okay we have some space at um rink and valley middle and that's on the east side and if we look at the southwest side that's a 78 and the transition for timing we have Montgomery Slater and SRX that that have had conversations for for a while about that at the administrative level about how they would work that transition versus things that were not happening um in the same proactive way you know at at at other schools so there there were multiple reasons why we believe that that

102is a is the best recommendation at this time and the the difference in cost is about or saving is about $220,000 there's not a a a large impact fiscally in the in the change one over the other um and I do want to add because I can hear things behind me that um although the conversations have not been shared with some of the staff at some of the schools um the conversation between French American and Slater and Montgomery and continuing that French program all the way through has been happening for months this is not something new um I don't know which school which schools shared it with their staff or didn't share it with their staff I can't speak to that but I can speak to the fact that the administration at all three schools

103has been working together to um kind of devise a plan for this because they've been wanting since last school year to develop the French program through Montgomery to go from French American to Slater to Montgomery and so once this idea came up about the possibility of there being 712 they already have put together a plan amongst the administration I cannot speak to what has been shared with staff and so that but I do know that Administration has been talking about it um and then in terms of capacity um Montgomery currently has a capacity where they could fit about 1,00 kids if they needed to okay and back back to my last maybe question for now could we pull the maps back up again and specifically year two so I think some there was some confusion

104at least for me and maybe some in the crowd um there didn't appear to be a boundary between Santa Rosa and and uh Maria CIO so I'm understanding the black is Santa Rosa yes that's correct so the idea for year two is for Santa Rosa high school and ELC Island to share an attendance boundary uh where LC Island students will be uh get to pick if they want to attend LC island or S Rosa High okay in order to accommodate that there is a change to the north uh side of the Santa R Roa High School boundary in order to have enough space uh for them where there is again if you want to look okay you know this year one I'm going to you know try to animate that uh where is um the

105attendance boundary for Maria Kio uh will go into town uh through Stane uh Lewis and then down Franklin want to say Pacific and Braden so that is the idea so similarly will students have choice to exactly so this change will just apply to Future residents any student currently enrolled the S Roosa High uh and living in this area that now instead is gold uh they will uh continue to remain with a phone call to the school say my attendance boundary changed I would like to remain and finish up um at Santa Rosa high and they will receive an automatic interd District transfer there um this will apply just moving forward uh to new um I want to say seventh graders pretty much because these boundaries will go hand inand with the uh Middle High School

106feeder pattern right and so um you know currently Piner and comto uh will share the purple attendance boundary ringcon valley middle and Maria CIO will sh will share the Golden Rod uh Herber later and monom will share the red and in this situation is going to be Santa Rosa High s Roosa midle sharing the black whichever configuration the 712 model will fall so here I um I believe Piner s rosah High Montgomery will become a 712 combined campus and at least under this plan for the time being uh renon Valley and mariao will continue to operate the separate schools with the potential as we said before maybe in 2030 or 2035 if we have enough space at the mar Kio campus to house the middle schoolers we can also transition that school but a space

107constraint there is really tight so trusty deltor quick reminder we do have a motion and a second with just one Amendment added on the table while we're having this discussion um these Maps this is a lot of new information that we're just reviewing this afternoon when we do vote on this motion are we committing to these Maps currently or is that a work in progress um we are committing to the one for next school year because we'll need to notify families of any change now as I said before uh all attendance boundaries are fluid and the board can change them at any time so the year two currently are part of the motion uh but there might be you know line edits that we can make in the future yeah because there's going to be

108a lot of community feedback and obviously we want to have the opportunity to be a part of that process and make sure we're doing things accurately um the next thing if if we're moving forward with this um I want to provide direction to ensure that part part of the strategic planning for a 712 Model includes the teachers and staff um for some input and we don't just build a plan and assume they're going to be able to figure it out so we can please ensure that our staff is involved um so that we can get the minds that are actually doing the work involved and and know what's going to work and not work and that way they're ready to go hey TR direct additional information on this so the reason we're approving the year

109two maps is because we want provide the prioritization in year one for the transfers but we know similar to the detailed discussion we had in the um study session where this map was this map is actually basically it is the map from the study session that we talked about for four hours there's nothing new in it um but we know from that that there are going to be individual neighborhoods um such as a part of the north JC area um and other things that are going to need to be con taken into consideration as we moved here two um and to give prioritization opportunities for students in year one we are approving the maps in order to handle those Logistics so thank you trusty maner question yeah um and this is going to be several

110questions um I appreciate all this effort and and compromise and creative thinking to keep elsc open I know that's that's why we're all here um and and at the same time I just really need to express my My Equity concerns um I'm I have so many questions um I'm I'm concerned that we're only looking at LC right now for this restructuring um I I think this this is all great work that we need to be looking at our all of our school sites not scho maybe High School sites in the future and so my my question comes just back to our liability um that's been something we've we've heard as a concern and even as as threats um and so my con my question is um how how can we avoid void this liability um

111given that we are looking only at LC for this restructuring and and the reason I ask that um is because we haven't done an equity analysis on the impacts of restructuring in southw s Rosa I guess my question to that is are we keeping are we keeping our comprehensive curriculum on site I have questions around like are we still serving our special education students are we still serving our English language Learners um you know are we are we are we taking those opportunities Away by going into this by going in this direction nothing would be changing for next year and it gives us the that year to determine how we make sure that we are making any changes in a way that is still going to serve our our families and our students so anytime

112that we look at a a change we can't just do something to special education students we can't just do something these are things that have to be done with thought and that's why we need a year to look at what that at what those changes would be and that would be coming to the board for further Direction and part of the strategic planning that has to happen with staff and keeping the needs of our students in our community in mind coming forward that that's my understanding of what our plan is in in in presenting to to move forward with it okay so two things come up thank you I'm I'm glad to hear that that doesn't that things kind of stay the same at least for a year they stay the same and there's opportunity

113for discussion um I I really want to emphasize that I I I really do think that regardless of of whatever happens today I really do want to emphasize that I I we need an equity impact analysis on how any kind of restructuring is going to impact students public a public education access in Southwest Santa Rosa um and I say that because you know people are concerned they're concerned about that dividing of the LC Santa Rosa boundary in year 2 um it's it's scary like I just want to acknowledge that it that it's scary and so I I I need an equity impact analysis done and um what was the other thing I was going to say I we need to do an equity impact analysis um and oh my God I can't what was I

114going to say um okay I'm just going to leave it there we we need to do an equity impact analysis so on that Stephanie I'd like to put just put that out there and figure out how we need to make this work but everything the district does should be looked through a lens of equity absolutely across the board so that's the direction we need to go and it's not just focus on Southwest Santa Rosa it's not just focus on specific areas but every single thing this District does need to be looked through an equity lens on how it's going to affect any of our students so we need to find that pathway abely yeah I I I agree with that I definitely agree with that um I think with with everything going on in this

115restructuring I think we as a board we can have that discussion we can prioritize schools and communities that are that are being disproportionately affected I want to acknowledge that LC is not the only community that is being disproportionately affected by these changes and so I I agree I think we need to go through a process of identifying those communities the second thing I was going to say and I remembered is um we need an equity impact analysis and I think we need a like a community oversight committee so that the changes that are happening in your to really involve the people who are going to be most impacted we need we need an oversight Committee of teachers and students and staff and and community members because these are these are big changes they're transformation changes

116and I'm not opposed to transformational changes I just think that we need to be really deliberate and we need to have Pathways for people to be involved the whole way through and so I think those are the the two critical things that we need moving forward do you need those as an amendment to the motion or is this just future Direction can I actually yeah suggest that with the Strategic plan item we're requesting coming beginning of March we have the equity analysis because that would kind of go hand inand with the Strategic plan so the first meeting in March we'd have the Strategic plan and the equity analysis there and then I a reports on the committee having been sat on one of these committees that involves parents teachers and staff and Vicky and I

117spent many many hours together during that process I know how thorough it is and that a knowledge is from City on one and I'm one of the few people that's done that before so I think we a report on what that is like because it is exactly what you're asking for Stephanie and um you know but the timing of that I think is probably could be not at the same time as strategic plan and the equity uh conversation okay sorry I have a sure um and if this is off then please tell me that it's off but I would also like to with the equity piece um I saw something that had it recommended to just change the wording of it to holistic um and I don't know that may land wrong but the my

118concern with just having the equity and it's not just having the equity piece but um I also want to in addition I want to really hone in on why people are leaving also so how can we make sure that people are all that everyone is you know the equity analysis and why people are leaving because I think those things can go together because of lopsidedness um so I just want to make sure that that piece is in there we're not C I don't think we're catching that very well in the district uh Elementary or secondary and so I would like to see that included in that I my understanding is that an equity impact analysis is actually kind of more of like a legal thing and like there's guidance around that from the AG's office

119um but I hear you and I'm I think I think we should do that um sorry I have a few more questions just around like programmatics um I I I know you keep re reinforcing this and I appreciate it and your answer might still be the same but I need to ask so what happens to the current School administration leadership the teachers I mean the the the culture that's built like what is what happen with all of that in this process so I may turn to my cohort my colleague over here uh Dr xans related to we are in a period of looking at all Staffing and and who's in the right place and seniority and there's all kinds of things that happen over the next few months with our preliminary and final notices Vicki

120do you have or Dr Sans do you have anything to add um I'll just kind of echo what uh Lisa said which is that um we're looking at ratios throughout the district so this doesn't affect the the ratios in terms of um administrators because it's it's by number of students um in terms of teachers again we're in a time where we have to look at everything and we are we need to propose reductions um like was said earlier we're probably going to propose more reductions then we're going to end up needing but we have to do that in order to stay in compliance um there's no intention of moving teachers away from where they are so in terms of like moving Slater to Montgomery it wouldn't we wouldn't like it would be the Slater teachers

121that would be moving with Slater to Montgomery unless those teachers for some reason fell within the teachers that are getting layoff notices is due to capacity due to the number of students that we have enrolled but it's not a factor the moving it's more a factor of seniority thank you um and I just need to reemphasize this again we're not eliminating normal curriculum no the answer is no we're not eliminating normal curriculum next year everything is the same that's part of the all of the strategic planning is what does this new thing look like that doesn't mean that it's that there's not any alignment or anything like that but as far as what that looks like I can't answer that today that's what we need next year for right is is to really determine how

122do we how do we improve what we're doing everywhere our our our biggest impact and okay here's a finance person trying to use Ed you speak which is best first instruction so the the first consideration for any of our sites has to be how do we address the students in the class what they're doing before we add anything else or look at at changes it's what are we doing in there first okay my I looked to my team to correct me or add I don't know I kind of want to hear from Dr Castro if that's okay I know he's our you're our guy on this I I don't think that we should really be talking about curriculum at all at this point um I think that this is a conversation about boundaries Logistics and

123fiscal um this meeting in particular um anything having to do with the second year of LC all and we have a lot of time to discuss that but we're always in every day we're in having conversations about how we can improve instructional approaches um and every day we're having conversations based on looking at data and um listening to our students um so but um I I wouldn't you shouldn't have any worries about um anything having to do with this affecting our curriculum immediately okay so yeah this this we shouldn't be having conversations about instructional design right now I hear that I hear that that and I'm also it actually concerns me okay um I just want to acknowledge that PE that our community is concerned um and that there's a concern that come year two

124there are going to be drastic changes and if we approve this tonight or today um that were you know just it's it's that uncertainty right it's it's just that uncertainty and and I think what I'm looking for is some sort of reassurance for our community that we're not going to end up in a place where Elsie isn't a comprehensive high school well regardless of what happens I think every day like I said um independently of what um this process independently of what this process we work every day in classrooms like I said to um analyze and look at the practices um and we try to do that um with the philosophy and the approach um and the principles that it should be independent of this sort of thing it's completely separate of of the sort

125of fiscal um um challenges that we have to deal with so we're in classrooms looking at what best first instruction is so when we go to LC Allen we're talking to the um to the principal we observe classrooms there's a lot of great work going on right now as a matter of fact the instructional rounds that um the principal and the and the administrators that are doing there that's what we we focusing on right now that's independent of this he um we were just there um about a week ago looking at um how he's using the observational tool and um the tier one um academic agreements that um Elsie Allen is um using with his teachers he's getting great feedback from his teachers as a matter of fact that school is um an Exemplar we're

126going to ask for them to come back and share in our next meeting in our instructional leadership team Arc to show um the rest of the principles how it's done actually how we use data to um look at an best first instruction in classroom this is stuff that we're doing on a regular basis it's independent of this process right now and we're going to continue to do that regardless okay yeah okay okay um another question does this plan um give us Room to Grow LC's enrollment if the if the opportunity presents itself if the opportunity presents itself where we are able to take on more students from nearby Charters per se in the event they can't serve our Southwest Santa Rosa and rosand students are we limiting ourselves in this plan to not be able

127to take those students if that happened no this actually provides the the space for us to accept students across our district where we right now uh if the if the option were to be you know the motion on the table preserves that option the what we were discussing the other night with the closure of any High School would have removed space for us to do that and that's part of the conversation that needs to come forward in the in the future about board policy and and those assumptions that we can or can't start including in our multi-year projections okay and my question was more specific to you know the high schools in Southwest Sosa and in rosand that are that are Charters that potentially maybe one day might not be Charters and those students are

128going to need a public education option are we going to be able to serve them at LC through this scenario absolutely okay um and I have a question uh I I guess uh maybe not a question maybe more more of a statement but I do I do want to make sure that we are also thinking about our students with 504s and IEPs um I I'm not sure I'm not sure what what those um what that demographic really looks like at LC like compared to other schools in our or other high schools in our area and I just I worry about impacts to their education um through any kind of restructuring whatever it looks like just through any kind of restructuring and so I just want to make sure that um that we're taking that into

129consideration as well sure the um in addition to Resource programs some um SGI classes and so forth we have five specialized classes um at LC Allen we have and it's wonderful that several students have spoken up from our set program that's the counseling andich program two classes there and uh three extensive support needs classes um at this point speculative but um I would be hopeful that whatever change is uh is is occurring um at LC Allen that those classes would be able to be seamlessly Incorporated in into the changes and be continue to be a wonderful part of the LC Community which has been so wonderful to to those students thank you thank you before we move on that question because you asked about 504 is NS so this also introduces a necessary educational curriculum

130model to support students with disabilities on 504s that need this type of curriculum and currently are not able to access it and I do want to caution us on saying nothing is going to change EV everything is changing everywhere and there is changes happening for the 72s there's changes happening for the schools that are fully being closed there's changes being made for the ones that restructuring so part of this change actually addresses the current need need for students with disabilities that cannot access this curriculum that need to thank I I appreciate that information I do um those are all my specific new scenario questions for now I think be I know there's a motion on the table and I just want to say that before we we do anything else I I really I really

131don't want to be in this position again um I know that things like you just said director Casten are are changing you know this is a an issue Beyond Santa Rosa city schools but whatever we can do to us as a board and I think this is for us as a board and we have to make a commitment that we are going to pursue every every single option we have available to us to make sure that we are not in this position again having to close down schools having to restructure having to to to put our community through this and and I think that there are a lot of ways I just wanted to share that in the last couple of days I've had many conversations people reaching out alumni associations reaching out saying we

132can't be here again whatever we whatever we need to do we're ready to do the work and so I just want to tell this board that I want to tell our community that that you know this has been an alarm this has been a huge alarm for for our district um as a member of the previous board previous board I'm not trying to use that language but I guess you know one one of the the older board members here um I I want to take I want to take accountability and I want to take responsibility that we should have been doing this so much sooner no and and I'm sorry that we've put that we've put our community through this so I just want to say I just want to say that we um we

133I'm I make that commitment I'm I'm again talking to people people are ready to get to work um and and I'm willing to to continue that um I just want to say that um that's actually that was it that was I think everything that I had to say I wanted to because we got on off on a lot of other important discussion the savings difference is about $2 million and I just wanted to confirm that before I said that number out loud um so again as we talked about the that it comes from RE you know evaluating what our base program is what can we afford to add back what that the interest transfer these other items that are already on here so again that that's where and this again is this is not included

134in that up here it's we wanted to prepare to provide an Apples to Apples comparison from what we looked at the other day so that's reflected in the same way that number is terrifying it is so I personally am going to step out because that is terrifying to me I will be right back but yes it is a scary number and the reality is we are all here because of that number um and again worst case scenario today was we were going to vote to close LC in high school that is what put everybody on notice is that we may have to lose a high school and we found an opportunity to not close that high school and have time to reimagine reinspection the community I know it's extremely hard to sit here and say

135trust us and trust this district from the history of things that have happened but I really caution the community of running down that rabbit hole of what ifs and who's out to get us and how is this rug pulled out from underneath us every single one of us up here every single one of us within the district wants to do better wants to be better and wants to provide better opportunities and that is the direction that we are heading so what would do we hear Wednesday night that if we get a 4% attendant hike we find lost money if we get attendant hi across our campuses we find money that is not currently coming into our district so it's where we step as a community it's where we take care of each other and it's

136where we find these opportunities to increase funding we are public Educators we want to build and design camp campuses where students want to be we don't want to just be the public neighborhood school that a student goes there because they need to go to school we want them to want to go to that school so we're here to build opportunities and build Visions across the board where our students want to be there and want to grow and that's where our funding increases and that's where we're not in this fiscal nightmare again because we built something amazing together that everybody's taken a part of and taken advantage of Ry Casten in specifically to the numbers and this is a part of the SC and staff presented understandings these numbers do not include what we've been presented

137with for opportunities but these changes enable us to accept that future enrollment and our very next board meeting has one of those items on our agenda and we will get to choose them we start to talk about things that are heading towards attracting students so we have opportunities to change the both sides of the Ledger instead of remaining in a conversation that is all about cuts and those cuts being schools and so you know next meeting is also going to be about Cuts but we start to have get to have some of those conversations around attraction and revenue um this this is not anyone sitting down and getting everything they want this is a whole lot of compromise throughout this entire Community uh this is a place where we are going to have a grave

138responsibility to follow through and make sure that the end result is the Improvement of our education and enrichment programs and this decision isn't the decision that imp implements making those programs excellent it's every decision we make after today and I don't think those conversations are going to be easy but they're going to be passionate and this will give us the Baseline to be able to move forward it there are many things that are also not in here so this does not end the conversation around ccla ccla is not contemplated in year one and we need to go and negotiate with wri and see what's going to happen so you know we are not ending the conversation about accelerated Charter we are going to need to have that conversation and that is going to be upcoming

139um there are many there are many things that we have to do to make this work and and to have this move forward we need to not we need to have faith because if we try to answer every question today within this one moment we are never going to make a decision and then our layoff notices in order to not have Dr Carter have more of a role in my life than I want um with sko coming in is the layoff notices would be so substantial and so harmful throughout the entire community and this gives us a path to lessen that impact next week um and and so that's I wanted to say that thank Mr Kirby um just real quick I I know we want to get to a vote here I I just

140want to go on the record and say I'm I'm truly not happy with these numbers um I just want uh yeah I guess I just want to say that I I feel of course it's very important for us to survive as a district we have to attract and retain students we have to attract staff families and in order to do that we as a board we ALS also need to regain the trust of the community and I if if the community doesn't trust us they're not going to come back to our schools so I'm I'm willing to I think give this it buys us a year to try to get back on track I'm just I'm still not happy with the numbers but I'm willing to give it a try we have a motion by

141trusty Casten seconded by trusty deor roll call vote student board memb Zinga yes trusty Casten yes trusty deor yes trusty Kirby yes trusty Jenkins no trusty manieri yes president mcnell yes motion passes thank you every everyone for being here today meeting adjourned