001I'll call the meeting to order. Tuesday, April 15, 2025, regular meeting of the Sanders Valley Union High School District Board of Education. Roll call, please. Terry, please note that Miss Sheab is not present today. Thank you. Uh we'll stand for the flag salute. So, is there a motion to approve the agenda for this evening? I motion to approve the agenda. Second. I'll second. Roll call. Mr. Johnson. Hi. Miss Noble. Hi. Miss Grace Velasquez. Hi. Mr. Abara. Hi. Agenda approved. Now we can move on to the superintendent reports and presentations. Good evening everyone. Um couple student recognitions tonight and a few things on our report. Before I start going over some dates, they're all on our website or you can call our office and we could assure that you'll get the dates. Um, I wanted to
002bring it to everyone's attention that Brianna Cole, one of our divers, just took first place in the Tri Comm the Tri County Invitational Swim and Dive Meet. But not only did she place first place, but she crushed a school record that was set in 1997 by scoring 410.55 points. So, I wanted to just congratulate her. So, she crushed it by like 30 or 40 points. Unbelievable. Yeah. Huge. Um, the boys volleyball team is playing right now in our gym and they're amazing. They were five and0 in league the last time I checked and they're a really fun group to watch. So, if you haven't been to a boys volleyball game yet, you should check them out. Um, we are wrapping up all of our summer school plans, believe it or not. Even though we haven't
003uh had graduation yet, we're summer school is planned and ready to go. All of our summer facilities and projects that need to be accomplished, the lists are planned. The dates are timed out. We're ready to go on that. But I wanted to also make sure to give a shout out to our maintenance and facilities department. They had a visit from our fire department for our yearly inspection. They received compliments from the fireart department and it was the best res re um the best school report, the best report the school has ever received. So I really want to thank Polo and his entire team for keeping our school safe and clean and um everyone on campus for everyone on campus every day. like they're really kind of the unsung heroes. They do such a good job.
004Um April 24th at 5:30 there's a meeting for the friends of the library and um we are hoping to partner together for a summer community book club in which then the author may be visiting us in the fall. So I'm really excited about that project and meeting with the friends of the library. Come on in. You're fine. Come on in. You can go this way. No problem. Thank you. Um, our last DAC meeting is also on April 24th at 5:00. It's a potluck and it'll be held on campus and everyone is invited to attend. On April 28th, alumni will be celebrating a 50-year reunion at the Marriott. So, that's pretty exciting. We will host a beach volleyball tournament here all day on April 30th. We are excited to host and this is an example of
005when you have first class facilities, our athletes get to compete at home and not always have to travel the 30, 40h hour time away. Um, so it's huge and we're happy to have beach volleyball players come to the valley and visit our facilities. So this is really great for our student athletes. Our prom will be May 3rd held at Gany. And again, we're so pleased to partner with Gany and appreciate them supporting our school in so many ways and our students by allowing us to have prom there. May 7th is our senior scholarship night. May 9th is our health fair. May 19th is our pirate showcase where academic sports clubs will be showcased in the new gym in the quad area. All of our feeder schools and parents will be invited to come and celebrate
006our academics, our athletics, our arts, and our extracurricular activities. A lot of the eighth grade families will be able to get a lot of information that night as well. They've already been given a lot, but it'll it's just a nice night to get them on campus. On May 27th at 6 o'clock, it's a Tuesday, we will be having Balorat in our theater. Graduation is the 30th. Can't believe it's already coming. I know it's crazy. Um, hey, I just got a text that softball got their first win today. Yay. Good for them. You know, our softball players have improved so much from the beginning of the year to now, and the coaches are amazingly patient and just teaching the girls so much about the game. So, really excited for our softball players. Great goo group group
007of girls out there. Um, sober graduation will be May 30th, the night of um the night of uh our our actual graduation. And there's a big group of volunteer parents and community members that handle that. It's not really a school sponsored event, but certainly our seniors benefit from it. So, that's amazing. Testing, state testing and AP testing, state testing. We're finishing up math state testing for our 11th graders and AP testing is here and our kids are ready. So, we're excited for that. Future dates will be on our website and we'll be sending home square parent squares and social media, but pirate check-in next year will be July 31st for 10th, 11th, and 12th graders. little different than it's been in the past. They'll get their actual physical schedule with their teachers names on it,
008all of their books on that day. They'll get their ID cards and their student picture so that when they come to school the first day of school, they go to first period and we start. So, it's pretty exciting for f for that for pirate check-in. And then the next um day is freshman orientation. That's August 1. And that'll be full day of act activities for freshmen culminating at the second half of the day after lunch with a parent meeting. But now when we give tours to freshmen, they'll actually see the classes they're going to be in and know exactly where the classes are and not just like a general overview of the campus. They will also get their technology, they will get their books, they will get their ID cards, everything. So they'll know exactly
009what to do the first day of school. So hopefully lower their their anxiety and you know um and then uh that first Saturday before school starts the seniors will be painting their parking spots. So we've already come like a full year. So they're already looking forward to that which is great. I also wanted to let everybody know that Melanie Dicki who is our school's teacher of the year moved forward to the county level and had her school visit and interview on Monday from the Santa Barbara County Office of Ed. and we just appreciate her and all the work she does not only for the students here but she also teaches at Rufu Rufuio. So she's she's awesome. And then tonight I wanted to um honor some of our students. Our first student that I'm going
010to talk about is a student athletic recognition. We haven't really recognized a student athlete here before, but I you know we have a couple of them that really shine above and beyond. So we're going to have might be started part of my rotation now. But tonight, um, we have Santino Alo here. So, if you want to just stand up for us. Um, and I'm just going to talk about him a little bit. Um, he's an accomplished student athlete. Academically, he has a 3.7 10 through 12th grade weighted GPA. He's taken five concurrent enrollment classes through Allen Hancock, including English, US history, economics, political science, and auto. Um, Santino has committed and signed to wrestle and attend college at Southern Oregon University. Santino loves living in the valley because it is a small community and it's
011safe and it's quiet and everyone knows each other. This is the one of the reasons he picked Southern Oregon. His major so far is undeclared, which I told him good, like figure out what you want to do. Try it all. I think that's awesome. Santino loves to fish and hunt with his friends, which he'll also have the opportunity to do in Oregon. His favorite high school memory is his 10th grade year of football. He loved the entire season being with his teammates and playing. Santino is a two-time CIF championship wrestler, and in 2024 at the California Invitational Tournament with a 100 schools competing, he won his weight class. In 2023 in New Jersey, he was a national finalist. In football, Santino won the leather helmet award. So, if anything, if anybody knows anything about football,
012which I know this isn't a surprise to a lot of people, but I'm a I love sports. Leather football days, people were built different and wrestlers are built different. And we kind of talked about that because you have to be a tough cookie to be a wrestler. That's a special award. Yeah, the leather helmet award is huge, but to be a wrestler and be out there on that mat and it's a team sport, but you're an individual at that moment, and he is tough. He's a joy to watch. Um, I asked Santino, "What is some advice you would give to your 10-year-old self?" And he said, "To keep doing it, work hard, not give up, and stick with it." And I told him, I hope you continue to do that throughout college and life. Look
013himself in the mirror, continue to give himself that advice. The most accomplished people are the ones who are not only physically tough, but mentally tough. And wrestlers are tough. You're tough. So, congratulations. And we'll have you come up here and take a picture in just a minute with the board. Okay. Um, this next student, hold on, this is a this is going to be a long one. Um, our Edward Jones student of the month is a program sponsored by the San Nez Valley's local Edward Jones franchise. It is an opportunity for the faculty to nominate a su senior with outstanding characteristics both as a student and a community cit citizen. Students are recognized for their grades, school, and community involvement, and Edward Jones donates $100 to each student and submits their picture to the local
014paper. I am honored to introduce our April student of the month, nominated and voted on by our staff members, Gyle Torres. Stand up, [Applause] Gyle. As I describe Gyle, I want you to know that he is currently choosing between two top colleges in the country. His major is going to be mechanical engineering and he will either attend UC Berkeley or Northwestern. He is interested in prosthetics and hopes to help individuals with limb loss. Gyel is a very accomplished academically. He has taken 11 AP courses and in currently has a 4.6 GPA. He has also participated in Claremont Graduate School's Fired Up Distance Learning for Social Change. It's an enrichment program where sorry it's a high school program where um students meet with professors at Claremont univer Claremont Graduate University each specializing in different different aspects
015of social adv advocacy train and they trained him and te 10 others on how to enact social change in their communities. He also attended a summer program with the University of Notre Dame's introduction to engineering program. Out of thousands of applicants, he was one of 120 selected to participate in their introductory engineering program on campus. So that's great. He loves the valley because of the nature and the community where he always knows someone. His favorite teacher has been Mr. Goodman and his favorite class, AP Biology. His favorite high school memory is painting his senior parking spot. In his free time, he loves to watch movies and TV, especially sci-fi, and he loves R&B. JCole, I don't know how he has free time. Um, he has participated in cross country and was the team cap captain.
016His job was to motivate the team to try their hardest at every practice. He also boosts the team's morale with constant affirmation and helps to plan and host events like team dinners that bring the team closer. Gel recognizes the positive impact that running has had on his health. And he feels very accomplished after a hard run. He says it helps him sleep, eat better, and stay hydrated. Running is a community of good friends that push each other to the limit, and he wants to continue a run club in college. Gel is very involved in activism. He participated in the Youth Well Advisory Board of Santa Barbara. He sees the intersection of physical and mental health. He also helps with PH um P as an advocate for substance awareness and the um Santa Sanz Valley Humane
017Society Animal Shelter where he volunteers as a dog walker and supervises dogs and cat enrichment. So that's pretty cool. He in for clubs he's been involved in the robotics, the good mood club, the organization of Latinoameans, the art club, and the pickle ball club. His honors and awards, and there were a lot, so I just picked a few because there were pages. Um, he actually won in ninth grade the Santa Barbara High School architectural design competition. He was a finalist. He was in the top 12 in a countywide drafting competition to create student housing for a population of 400 students. So that's pretty cool. He's an AP scholar with distinction which is a national award, a national Hispanic recognition, n national rural and small town recognition from the college board. He also so finds time
018to work at the Salvain Danish fudge kitchen. And if I asked Gel if you could give your 10-year-old self some advice, he said it would be to be confident and not limit yourself to others expectations. So we just want to congratulate Gel on being our April student of the month. So congratulations. And we'll have him come up here at the end, too. But I have one more tonight. And I would like for Nicholas Nico Duran to stand up. Um, tonight we celebrate our Elks Club sponsor student of the month program which honors students who excel academically and serve their communities. The San Valley Elks Club uplifts yoke local youth by fostering a commitment to community service, a core value of Elk Scholars. We are proud to support the Elks mission knowing that today's scholars can
019be tomorrow's leaders in their community. It is a privilege to introduce our April Elk student of the month chosen by our office staff and administration Santinez senior Nico Duran. Tonight we gather to celebrate Nico and he is a testament to academic excellence and community service. The San Elk Club stands firm in that commitment to nurturing local youth who embody the spirit of community leadership, a value cherished by them. It is with immense pride that we honor our April student of the month, Nico. Nico is a student that I might be the most expo excited to speak about all year. Nico has worked very hard in our special education program. Nico embodies resilience and determination. Having excelled in in our program while embracing the warmth of the valley, his high school journey has been punctuated by
020his memorable moments, notably the spirited winter sports rally that he loved and his new pound found passion for football his senior year. So he didn't play football till his senior year. A testament to his adventurous spirit and his ability to forge long lasting relationships. Nico stated that he decided to play football and try something new. He made a lot of friends and wishes he would have played all four years. He said the summers were really hot, but it was really fun. Nico really embraced our career technical education pathway. He has delved into automotive mechan automotive mechanics, welding and culinary arts both at our school and through concurrent enrollment at Alan Hancock College. His aspiration is to follow in the footsteps of his grandfather, his father, and his older brother who all at one time have
021been welders. So he will um at this reflects his deep rooted family values and his commitment to his chosen pathway. Outside of academics, Nico loves fishing and the beach. He is dedicated to community ser. His dedication to community service further underscores his role as a valued citizen and a joy to have in any classroom setting. He has matured into an excellent man who everyone knows who knows him is proud of. If Nico could give his younger self some advice, he would ask he he would ask for more help for his disability and not be quiet about it. He would tell himself to do you do you and make good choices. Nico Duran is not just a talented student. He is a model of resilience, a testament to the power of perseverance and self-discovery. As he
022prepares for Allan Hancock in welding, we commend Nico for his unwavering spirit, his dedication to his family, his positive impact on all of those who have had the pleasure of knowing him. Congratulations to Nico, the San Valley Elks Club April student of the month, and thank you for being a great representative of Sanz High School's values, mission, vision, and expectations. [Applause] And we will just take a little break and so that they can each take pictures with our board members and your families that are here can be your paparazzi. Well, that's concludes it for me for my superintendence report, but I'll tell you what, um, honoring kids and getting to meet these amazing kids are the highlight of my day. That's for sure. I mean, fant fantastic kids from top to bottom in in in
023this school. So, great day. Yes. It amazes me each and every time because I think, oh, wow, this is fantastic. And then next month, it's like, wow, okay, it's even more. It's just so fantastic for students. I know. I agree. It's crazy. It's It shows why everybody is here. Yes. Yes. amazing teachers, different paths for every student, and a path to success no matter who you are and where you find your passion. And you know, we don't say this enough, but we're so fortunate enough to have those CTE programs where kids can excel. Nico wanting to be a welder. Welders make a ton of money. Welders are needed everywhere. Nico's going to be super successful. When I was 17, 18 years old, the thought never crossed my mind to even study about limb loss. And
024here we have an articulate young man who is just amazing that his passion is going to be prosthetics and limb loss. And when he said that, I was like, "Wow, you know, just amazing kids. Amazing kids across the board." So, thank you for that, Kim. That's amazing every time. as Kathy said, I don't even know how to their wisdom at that age as well to think back to when they were 10 years old. What would you tell yourself? I know. So, it's fantastic. I mean, if we just make an observation, the thread of having a connection to place, the way they're giving themselves to community by service, the athletics, the balance of the uh academics, you know, and the curiosity that just kind of brings it all together, right? So, It's great to see that.
025So, we will move on now to comments and correspondence. Does anybody have anything you'd like to say? I I got to visit the high school um for a good part of the morning with our lovely superintendent who took me around I don't know about to 12 or something classrooms and the lunchroom and all around and because I I wanted to just get the it's I just wanted to get the vibe of the school um since you know it I hadn't been on campus as much as maybe other board members and I really loved it um to see what was going on and how active the students were in active again I'll repeat that word active learning uh going on in every single class and I I was just I felt so privileged to be able
026to be part of that just from my small part on the board of to be connected with that and the positivity that I saw and the commitment of the teachers. I just really want to recognize the teachers that are standing up in front of the classroom every single day teaching all different students, different learning needs, different strategies, and they're they're thinking on their feet and pivoting, and I I love to see that. And um so I just I want to do it again if that's okay. So, thank you for that opportunity. Um, well, the school never ceases to amaze me. Um, I spoke to Alisia today and we were just talking about campus beautifification. The physical plant is beautiful, but I also had the privilege of um, watching the girls volleyball team. I know you're
027talking about the boys volleyball team. They're fierce. And one thing I've noticed about all the sports I've gone to is the team, you know, there's they support. So like if one games were ending the girls all there's one last game they all lined up on the court they they were they move from side to side on whichever side they were the the girls were on and it was just so much fun to watch them and they are good they are really good so it's really fun whenever I go to watch a sporting event I don't so the the one thing that I'd like to say is I don't get to the campus as often as I'd like and and um but I do get feedback from some teachers, community members, and the feeling here has
028the teachers feel supported. I think there's the culture has shifted a little bit where it's more of a community that's more tight-knit and I've seen that and and felt that and and uh heard that. So, I think it's fantastic. I think direction is is is going we're going the right direction. So, just like to throw that out there. And now we can uh move on to the public comment time period. And I have one uh Meg RDman. Hi, good evening. I am Meg Ridman, uh the superintendent for the Olive Grove charter schools, uh which consists of a family of four charter schools throughout Santa Barbara County, including one school located here in Buin. Um I am a local parent and a proud resident of the Santa Valley. I have a freshman that will be attending
029next year. Um super excited to hear about the orientation plans. Um, but here I am today to introduce myself and our school and to tell you a little bit about our program. Olive Grove is a personalized learning public charter school serving students in grades TK to 12. We offer a supportive hybrid independent study model where students in regular communication with their super supervising teachers have the option to come into our bu be builtin learning center uh three days a week to access educational services such as teacher office hours tutoring specialized academic instruction for our students with IEPs, English language development classes for our English learners, science labs and enrichment programs such as guitar lessons or artwork. workshops. As I see it, we already partner with your district by serving students and families in this community
030who, as wonderful as this high school is, find themselves in need of something a little different. Be it temporary or more long-term, we meet the needs of those students who may struggle with attendance or peer issues, students who are still developing their academic self-efficacy, or students whose personal commitments or professional activities or extracurriculars demand a flexible yet supportive learning schedule. Olive Grove is fully accredited by the Western Association of Schools and Colleges. Uh, and as a public charter school, our students take the same statewide assessments, and our school is subject to the same accountability measures as all other California public schools and districts. Olive Grove has been a part of the fabric of this community for almost 25 years as it was originally chartered by the Los Lo school district. It's had some evolution over
031the years and it took its current formation in 2015 and we are currently authorized by the California State Board of Education. Our current charter term runs through June 30, 2026 and in preparation we intend to seek renewal with your district to provide our oversight and our authorization. We are were recently placed in the middle performance category based on the California school dashboard which indicates our charter may be renewed for a 5-year term. I welcome you to visit our learning center and additionally I'm going to invite you to our 10-year celebration which will be held jointly with our LMPoke school in LMPoke on May 14. Olive Grove Charter School looks forward to working together with the Sanz Superintendent, the district staff, and this board for a successful renewal. Thank you. And if I may, I'd like
032to pass out. Would you please please do m Amen. Uh next up I'll call Mark Herthell to the stand. Good evening board members. Uh Dr. Shhan, u I was just passing from beach volleyball to the indoor boys volleyball. So, uh stopped in, but um just again, yeah, want to echo the positive, uh comments about how great the atmosphere is on school school campus and appreciate all of you for your leadership here at the board level. Um uh I'm speak on behalf of the Pirate Foundation. Um we've we're about ready to do a community mailer. Um we did one in fall. We're gonna do another one um to kind of update the community on some of the efforts, the teacher grants and some of the specifics there and then uh hopefully get some great pictures from
033the chalk festival when they have that. Um but we also want to find out about other potential needs on campus. Um we've heard some things about the theater. We've heard some things about auto and so we we're going to meet with you uh later this week. want to hear other needs on on campus that the community should be aware of and and put specific things out there that other uh folks may be interested in donating to. So, if you have ideas um uh let us know and um we're working on that and uh the community has been very generous. you know, we've had donations without even asking. U the Gayy family foundation and then the um couple other family foundations and so we're hoping to activate a lot more uh benevolent uh residents and and
034families like that to benefit here. So, thank you very much. Have a good night. Appreciate it. Thank you, Mark. So, that will end our public comment time period. Now we can move on to consent. And is there any discussion or a motion to approve consent? I move to approve the consent agenda. Thank you. As I want, is there a second for approval? I'll second that approval. Thank you. Uh, roll call, please. Mr. Johnson, I. Miss Noble, hi. Miss Grace Velasquez. I Mr. Abara. I consent approved and now we can move on to the action agenda which we have no action items this evening and then so we'll move on to discussion which is the first reading of updated board policies. Okay. So there are three policies that we're updating this evening. The first policy BP5113
035relates to absences and the excuses for those absences. It clarifies what is and is not an excused absence and it um codifies some of the reasons for being absent that can be excused. So work in the entertainment or allied industry is now an enumerated excuse. So before it was not included and that could be an objective standard or something that the district could choose to excuse or not based on the circumstances. It's now an enumerated excuse. So this would be like think of I I don't know what that is actually. I thought you were going to ask like the other one. Ah you're right. It's businesses that support or closely relate to the main industry of entertainment. Interesting. Entertainment industry hired as a dancer. Okay. And it doesn't negate the need for them to have
036a worker's permit to engage in the work through the industry. So they still need that in order to engage in working as a um a student. Um it also further outlines the policy that teachers have to provide identical or equivalent assignments and tests when an student has an excused absence. So if they don't want to give the exact same test for, you know, security purposes or whatever, they have to give an identical I mean um an equivalent test. So they they can't choose not to. So it is now a board policy. Okay. The second one has to do with chronic absence and truency. And this one is updated to designate the intent the attendance supervisor as the person responsible per for performing various assignments related to absence and truency. Um, it reflects a tiered approach
037for reducing chronic absenteeism, which includes universal strategies and letters to parents, expanding material regarding early intervention, sending that out to the parents and households. It adds the provision of training and information to staff for the implementation of a trauma-informed approach to chronic absence. It reflects chronic absence as a measure of district and school performance on the California dashboard and adds uh grade level to the list of specific data that needs to be provided to the board. regarding attendance, absence, and truency. So, and the last one, BP 5131.2, has to do with bullying, and it updates the bullying policy requiring that our policy specifically prohibit discrimination, harassment, intimidation, and bullying, including acts of the governing board and superintendent in enacting policies and procedures that govern the district. It also updates to reflect CSBA's policy student uh
038student safety bullying and cyber bullying which encourages families to model respective respectful behavior, contribute to a safe and supportive learning environment and m and monitor potential causes of bullying. So it just sort of expands and enumerates that everyone needs to not be a bully. Did I read somewhere that you're going to discuss this with parents? Maybe that freshman orientation about cyber bullying. I thought I read something. Yes. Um it's it we discuss it with families and then at the all of our parent meetings at the beginning of the year, especially our freshman orientation parent meeting, we go over bullying, cyber bullet, bullying, how to report bullying, intimidation. Is the freshman um parent orientation is it's not mandatory, but is it highly recommended? So the orientation date before school is not mandatory, but when we begin
039school, we have student behavior expectations assemblies for every grade level and those are mandatory. Teachers bring students to those assemblies. No, I guess I was thinking of parents because when it comes to cyber bullying, some of them may not even understand, say, social media, how to access it, what it really looks like, and that to to be in more informed and help the parents understand what signs would look like their child if they start to disengage or anything like that. Yes. And I know through our health and wellness center, we've had a couple of events this year about social media. Um, I think they've done them not only on Zoom, but they've done them in person. And so they're trying to reach people in different ways, right? Um so we are doing that, but parent
040meetings are voluntary, but student meetings after school starts are not voluntary. They're mandatory. I wonder if we could do like little um PSAs, you know, public like little two-minute videos for parents in Spanish and English that just say you like, oh, if you notice this in your child, something that can be thrown out to parents where a parent doesn't have more than a minute or two, but just to like if you notice this, you know, this is how you access Instagram, this is how you access Snapchat, just so they have a little bit more um accessibility to help their child maybe navigate some of it. Yeah, I have a question. Do you um also do some uh bystandership education and providing students uh strategies and language to address, you know, what they're witnessing, right? And
041that is particularly important, right? if they're not being asked to be a part of it yet, their presence is making them kind of We do go over that in our um expectations assemblies at the beginning of the year and they cover that also in our focus on success classes. Um when they go through kind of each one of the topics, there's always a portion of that in there. Yes. But at our expectations assemblies, um, we cover, especially with the younger students, we cover a lot of that peer pressure or just even being a bystander. So, you're standing around in a group, you're part of the problem if you're not part of the solution kind of like you can advocate for somebody. And we do actually more times than not other people advocate for the kids
042before they advocate for themselves. So, which is pretty which is pretty remarkable. And I just wonder that anonymous tip line if let the freshman know that because sometimes they feel intimidated being a bison. I think that's a great point. Yeah. And they don't know where to go or if they'll be then bullied themselves. And so if they have Yeah, we have that available on a QR code. So all they have to do is scan the QR code and they can report that way and it's on our website and it's completely anonymous. So that's that's a good thing. This may not be the time to ask about this, but I'm going to anyway. What about the uh situation with the aging students, the 18-year-old students? Is that for a different Yeah, I think that we need
043to do some research and we'll bring something back to you with, you know, everything that we found and what our proposed path forward is so that we can be better equipped to have the conversation. So, we can make that a discussion item under our transition students. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Um, we can make that a public discussion at our next board meeting. That'd be great. Anything else? Okay. Well, that uh takes us to close session and I propose a fivem minute recess and we'll go into close session at uh 6:15. or the dates. Yeah, dates. I'm sorry. When is I don't know when the August. August date. Yeah. Okay. Did you mean the 18year-old signing themselves out? Yes. That's what I meant. I just didn't know how much I should say here. We're going over
044date, so no close session. So, so where were you were on August? Yes, I've got it. I've got it as a 19th. September I have as uh the 9th. Tuesday the 9th. October is uh the 21st. The 21st. and November November would be the 18th, December the 9th, which may be a problem for me. But let's address that at a for different date. No, there's no there's no election this year. Yeah, it's we're between midterms. [Laughter] Okay, so I think we're all settled. Um, well, December I may bring up at a future date, but not tonight. So, okay. Okay. Now, we'll uh move to close session. And you guys want to take a little five minute recess or want to just move in? Okay. Let's transition. Okay.