001e e e all I signed up for is one people yeah I at least you got it you got it hopefully it's just okay welcome everyone I'm calling to order the um oops where is it tonight's board meeting um and I see everyone is present so uh please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance plge Al to the flag of the United States of America for it stands Nation God indivisible and justice for all okay and um I would like to invite a trustee Shen Brewster to read the living land acknowledgement Sunnyville school district is located on ancestral and unseated land of the MMA alone tribe who have peacefully honored and cared for this land for thousands of years we recognize that every member of the sunville community continues to benefit from the use and
002occupation of this land we acknowledge our responsibility to learn from the wisdom of the lonely people and to consider how we might work to repair injustices and to move forward together in honor we have the translator today yes we do yeah we do okay we're just seeing we're seeing the network it support scrolling okay um so I would like to invite our translator to please give directions yes good evening everyone I'll give instructions for inter in Spanish for those that need it okay thank you um all right I'd like to make a note for those people in the audience that there is uh tonight's meeting is being recorded and that speakers in the room may be uh recorded at any time uh we're on to approval of the agenda agenda is there any member of
003the public who would like to speak on this item which is solely just the approval of the agenda if so um seeing no cards in the room please use the raised hand feature online okay I see none or do we have a motion to approve the tonight's agenda I move to second second thanks Michelle I'll uh board any discussion about the agenda okay we can vote um all those in favor please say I chair what's I um the agenda is passed thank you okay [Music] um we are on to item three discuss riew and discussion the ELA and El pilot update uh Dr Tean good evening board uh the team is here to um continue conversation around our Ela El um pilot process that we're in the midst of at this time we provided some
004details with regards to where we are in this process at this time and so Dr Valentine is here and Miss Armstrong and they will be supporting uh this conversation and discussion around our process today um pus I think there's a slide deck that we shared in case we meet oh it's up perfect I didn't see it there wonderful thank you um so we can kind of guide through this process and I think the the most efficient way to do this is that there were some questions with which we have addressed um but I think um in order in the essence of time um to follow up on any additional questions that you may have that are not clear or that require additional clarification thank you Dr Dean good evening trustees staff and public and welcome
005trustee paeta but I don't know if I said that last name yes um again we're going to give you a quick overview and then um we understand that you'd like time to discuss as a board um but I wanted to start by sharing that we board and staff have a shared and mutual passion to ensure that our students are robust readers and writers who have a strong positive academic identity um that's our goal we see this outline in our strategic plan and you're going to see parts of that come up in this process um I also want to reiterate that we have um continue to we've had well let me just walk that sentence back for a second we continue to include the science of reading strategies and curriculum um in our approach to reading
006we see this in our foundational literacy training that has been occurring in our district for a number of years um we see this in our use of really great reading and youly curriculums this year and our use of core assessment data um so we can align and meet our student needs and we continually work to improve our instructional practices to meet the needs of all of our students curriculum of course can support our staff members in developing pedagogical practices we know that and we also know that the quality of instruction outweigh a specific curriculum um at the Strategic Plan update in February I shared that we are exploring the potential of a comprehensive Ela ELD pilot and that we didn't have more details at that point because we needed to include our educational partners to
007to ensure that we were and are making a thoughtful decision um with multip multiple entry points to include our educational Partners um and in fact where we are right now is from our educational Partners um I wanted to walk us back to December so in December our teachers were piloting an an ELD curriculum designated ELD curriculum um at that time we had identified that we needed to have an ELD curriculum to best meet the needs of our students in December our second curriculum training occurred and at that training our teachers saw a comprehensive Ela curriculum the publisher gave us free access to all the materials and our teachers were really excited to see a comprehensive Ela program um along with El and so they posed the question what would it look like if we paused
008this process would it be possible for us to move forward with a comprehensive Ela ELD curriculum um and we really appreciate that this is where our staff is currently um and based on that feedback um we've been working on designing A New Path forward just from December so with that I'm going to turn over to miss Armstrong who's going to walk us through the steps she's been working very hard with administrative teams the designated eeld pilot team um as well as taking feedback from a number of different Community Partners so we can move forward thank you Dr Valentine hello board trustees Dr Gallagher thank you for having me here this evening um I'm really excited about the work that we're doing and um the steps that we're taking to move forward with this process and
009do it in a thoughtful and meaningful way for both staff and students um so I will continue am I controlling this yes sorry it's been a while since I've done this okay um I'm gonna move forward with where we are where we were in January which was not that long ago um after our discussion with uh the designated BL pilot team team and knowing um feedback from teachers and administrators and knowing some of our gaps in our current curriculum um we at the central office worked with site administrators to address first not recommending um a designated El curriculum adoption for next year uh putting that on pause so that we can move forward with a Ela comprehensive Ela ELD um pilot and then adoption um to help us work on these next steps we formed
010a principal Ela ELD team which consists of four of our principles in the elementary um Range it is a mixture of Title One represent representation as well as our non-title one sites um some of them volunteered others were asked to join and the other four of our elementary principles are part of a a math leadership team um so we've uh developed these teams to um really form a smaller group to discuss some of these big topics brainstorm ideas on how we might move forward it's not a decision-making team but really a team for us to um think through processes and then present them to the larger group as a whole moving into February um just last month actually just last week uh we had a pre like to the day a week ago from today
011uh we had the opportunity to arrange a curriculum preview for our principles um this was we had three Publishers come to the district office uh they presented to our principal team as well as our programmatic tosas um they provided a 40-minute presentation on their curriculum and then we had a 10-minute opportunity for questions and answers um we also had opportunities for them to notet take throughout and document questions um both individually but then through group discussion so that our El Ela El team here at the district office can seek more information from the Publishers that may not have been addressed during those presentations uh two of the curriculums that and Publishers that we heard from are the same as the as the two that we are piloting for designated ELD currently so those are aligned
012and the third um was added because we have heard from other districts that have used it um with great success it's aligned with the science of reading um and it also has an approved reading difficulties risk screen which is something that we'll be needing to implement um starting next year um we ALS the third curriculum is also the curriculum that one of our that our middle schools are [Applause] using March where we are now um so as of now um once we had our curriculum preview uh we learned a little bit about each of these curriculums from our Publishers the next step in our process was really wanting to hear from our teachers and staff about process and timeline um we know that there is urgency uh for our students so that we are um
013developing confident and competent readers and writers we want to do that as quickly as possible we also understand that we want to make sure we are being thoughtful about the the process um in which we look at curriculums uh that the different components and really determine what is best for our students um so as of now in this week and next week principles are going back to their site leadership teams um designated ELD pilot teachers are also invited to join this discussion um they are sharing advantages and challenges to both uh pilot process timeline options so a more expedited version and a more traditional year-long version um they are gathering feedback on both processes they are also capturing questions that teachers have about both processes so that when we have heard from all eight schools
014um we will gather that information and we will be able to make a more in informed decision about next steps for our pilot process and timeline um we hope to be done with that feedback Gathering uh within the next couple of weeks um and then we will be reviewing that feedback with our district leadership team with our principes uh to make an informed decision we are in the very beginning phases of this process so um in ter when it comes to um choosing and selecting curriculum we aren't there yet once we have a decision about uh process and timeline we will know how quickly we need to move in terms of selecting a curriculum uh the two curriculum to move forward with um when we come to that point where we're selecting curriculum we want
015to make sure we are on um selecting two curriculum that um support alignment with best instructional strategies and practices are aligned with the science of reading and have all of the components of literacy instruction that will build competent and confident readers and writers so when we think about the process uh that principles are gathering feedback on we have a more expedited process this would mean that we would need to preview quickly uh two curriculums this year with the goal of implementing um curriculum at the beginning of next year if this is what is selected um and where the um what we determine to do for our pilot process this means we would select the two curriculum quickly um gather as much information we as we can about the from the three Publishers that we heard
016from and then make a decision about the two curriculum to move forward with we would determine the process to gather feedback from a WI range of teachers at in this the spring and also work on developing um a schedule for professional development um next fall if based on feedback we move forward with a year-long process so this means we would be piloting um all of next year for the implementation of curriculum the following school year the 26 27 school year uh we would still need to take the steps to select to curriculum um we may need maybe a little fast uh we may not need to move it quite as quickly because we have a little more time on our hands however not much because we would also need to schedule training for P for
017a pilot um we would determine oops sorry I'm on the wrong part um we would need to determine how to support the development of instructional practices next year uh in the interim so knowing that we wouldn't be putting in place a new curriculum uh what can we focus on with our with our uh teachers and with our principales so that we are supporting students with developing their literacy skills in the meantime before having the curriculum in place and then from there we would follow the same steps as the expedite process um selecting the curriculum deter determining the process for feedback um determining what the team would look like for piloting and then um scheduling professional development for the pilot team with all of this uh knowing that we're in the middle of this process our
018end goal is that our process will combine the science of reading with the passion of learning we aim to cultivate um skilled and enthusiastic readers through inclusive practices expert teaching and Community engagement we really want to align the core value of Joy when we go when we consider um Next Step steps through this process and the curriculum that we select um and we really want our students to have the every opportunity to grow and Achieve at high levels in our district um we're excited about our next steps um we really value um teacher input and the process that we are taking moving forward uh so that we can make the most informed decision to best meet our students needs want to thank youa for questions thank you um first we're going to do public comment
019and then already discuss but thank you very much so um now um um now is the time for public comment only on this agenda item um if there's any do we have any blue cards in person so if you're in the room there are there blue cards over there in the things so there's a blue card you can fill a blue card out and um get it to U Mr Romero and he will um he will get you in the queue and we have a few people online so if you're online now uh it's the time you'd like to speak on this item please use the raised hand feature um as a reminder put our bylaw 9323 the board shall not prohibit public criticism of its policies procedures programs Services Acts or emissions during public
020comment we encourage speakers to discuss issues with civility um to treat people whose opinions differ from their own with respect and to focus on ideas policies and values um so we have one person here in the room tonight um how many do we have three online okay great um so while the person in the room is um finishing their card uh we can start with the online callers just for the sake of time today first we have Wendy Smith followed by Courtney Json and then g go okay thank you um go ahead um Missi all right hello my name is Wendy Smith I am the President of sea and a dedicated teacher of 30 years 27 of them here in Sunnyville I want to express my gratitude that the district is considering adopting a comprehensive
021curriculum for ELA and ELD something nville teachers have been requesting for a long time in the past teachers were involved from the very beginning of curriculum adoption which made sense we are the ones delivering instruction and seeing firsthand what works and what doesn't for our students unfortunately in recent years that practice has shifted with key decisions being made by individuals who either haven't been in a classroom for years or have never taught in a general Ed or Elementary classroom we also used to take a full year to adopt new curriculum carefully vetting programs to sure they had a lasting positive impact on students but the rushed adoption of our most recent math curriculum has shown us the risk of moving too quickly just years we are already seeing major flaws tonight we ask the board
022to uphold board policy in regulation 6141 as well as Education Code 600002 which states that each District board shall provide for substantial teacher involvement in the selection of instructional materials teachers must be included in the curriculum adoption process from selection to implementation because we share the same goal doing what is best for our students that starts with ensuring the Educators working directly with them have a voice in these critical decisions thank you thank you our next speaker Courtney J followed by okay go ahead Miss Jansen you have three minutes uh good evening Courtney Jansen sunny or Sam Miguel parent of chunto kids um I didn't organize my comment ahead of time but so I'm going to wing it but basically uh thank you for the additional information that was provided in the presentation today um
023I didn't see that looking at the pack ahead of time so you already answered several of my questions which was great I was very excited to see that the curriculum that I mentioned the curricula that I mentioned are all aligned with the science of reading uh this is fantastic IC and matches what much research has shown for how to make sure that our kids are going to learn to read and write correctly so thank you for making that commitment to science-based curriculum and moving away from the balanced literacy I am unclear and maybe I missed this on what the three curricula are um it would be helpful to know the names of them so that parents and I guess everyone else can have that information ahead of time I was also curious to understand how
024these curricula have been used by other districts to um close the achievement gaps and to improve reading and writing scores I was looking at the I think it's the vital District scorecard from the other week and right our students are on average about 47 to 49% uh in achievement for reading on the nwaa score so which of these curriculum has been successful in getting students to uh read much better quickly I can't remember but I think in another meeting maybe Jeremy or someone made a comment about how kids were below average need to be um achieving you know more than a Year's worth of growth within a year so how are these curriculum going to help those students do that um and help our teachers set up for that I would also uh just like
025to end on the note that I really appreciated that teachers are included in uh the review process and that there's lots of time coming up for that but I liked the other person's comment that teachers should be included uh in this from the very beginning it would also be nice for parents to see you know which teachers what grade levels are represented uh which schools are incl included in that and then my final comment would just be be nice to see how these curricula align with getting our students ready for Middle School I don't know enough about the Middle School curriculum at the moment but it would be nice to see the connection between elementary and middle school so that we know we're setting our elementary elementary school kids up for success thank you thank
026you last speaker on line is M you have three minutes thank you even in Dr good evening the Board of Trustees uh thank you for this opportunity uh really enjoyed the presentation and uh I love that uh the feedback is being taken uh from this um site Administration and from the principls and each individual site and uh you're going with collaboration which is something that I'm very happy about um I have a neurod Divergent child and I'm trying to understand his way of learning and as I'm researching more and more about this what I'm learning is that um uh some of the kids have just way of processing things which is like a whole chunk or visualized whole picture kind of way of uh processing um language processing uh their environment processing even the text
027that they read the so the methods that seem to work for these kids seems to be like you know the L Linda moodbell um methods uh where they will um work on comprehension where they will try to help the kid visualize the text that they're reading in a whole picture way to be able to help them visualize it as a picture before they so they can process and retain that information um I do not know much about uh science of reading I've uh I've only listened to a few podcasts about it so I'm not fully familiar but I know the phonex part of it how it is being done um but regarding the comprehension I was wondering if uh this curriculum that we will be adopting will take the input from the resource teachers like
028for example with the working memory aspects of it the visualization aspect of it and these kind of aspects to ensure that uh this curriculum will be successful even for children thank you thank you okay the name is uh Robin fer ier ier sorry um welcome you have three minutes at the podium thank you hello my name's Robin ivester I a resident here of Sunnyville and have four children who have gone through Bishop two now at CMS and one has moved on to the high school so from kindergarten through nth grade I'm um pretty well bured on where we're at I also have two children who were diagnosed with dyslexia not by the help of the school district however by the Endeavors of myself and pushing for that to happen when I heard that you were
029going to be discussing curriculums first off kind of change a little bit what I was going to say I'm very disappointed that this presentation was made mentions nothing about what curriculums are being looked at how are they aligned with the science of reading and how successful they are with all children and so that's that's a big problem if you're asking the public to sit here and listen on Zoom you're asking teachers to participate and it sounds like even the teachers don't know what curriculum is being looked at um I come from a school district in Redondo Beach that's where I spent most of my life and I am a product of the California public school system so I know where it can where it has been I should say and where it can be again
030unfortunately if you look back at the Historical perspective of language arts reading in California our our test for tanked in 1980 and where have we gone in all these years since that was when I graduated from high school I'm very literate but I've wondered how we've gotten to where we are today with kids who can't read adults who can't read in the 90s the three queing system that we continue to use with font and penel which failed my children and many others is set up for children to be turned into poor readers and yet we continue to this day in this District using it in the 90s the science of reading emerged but yet we didn't buy into science as a healthc care professional I sure would hate for all of you to have your
031health care presented in the fact that we're not going to do evidence-based practice which is pointed to the science of reading for about 30 years now and this district has not moved to go to it I I wouldn't want to be the one receiving that kind of Health Care even our former superintendent Bill honing in 1996 admitted that the whole language font Sanel Lucy Caulkins um Marie Claire that all of that was wrong and he believed that we would turn in the right direction and use the science of reading and phonics and get our kids on track so that all kids can read because we know that 60% of children need explicit reading instruction with the science of reading but it didn't happen that way and then we know what happened the pandemic came I
032as a parent got to see the fact into the classroom where I never went and I actually discovered that my daughter my I'm Mark sorry may I go past uh no I'm sorry it's three minutes so you're going to have to there's a lot to be said for this if I will say this the children who have dlex in this District need to have science of reading turn in your comments we'll make sure that the board you know what sir I have written to the board in the past this is exactly why the public is sending their children to private school agenda item on this item on March 13 this is why the public is sending their children to private school you are failing our children so and Miss Dean says that this has being
033would you like to call appropriate for finances would you like to take a okay it's this is the meeting of the board this is not a public forum right now it's a meeting of the board in public so if you can stop if I name this once what the thing is board member you don't listen to the community we can take a five minute recess and we can come back and we can try again to have our conversation about this item or we can continue okay I think we'll continue all right so board um now is your time do you have any who would anyone like to begin talking about this I I would just like to state that I put this item on the agenda um for tonight's meeting is a special meeting because
034I felt so strongly that it was necessary to call this um before the March 13th meeting because it seemed like um the process was getting ahead of maybe where what my impression is that the board was um and what I mean by that is that um you know we had a we had a board meeting where we were told that there was going you know there was some feelings about a pilot um Dr Gallagher has been keeping us updated but it was um very much like well things are in the works they might be happening and then um I was basically told that um some teachers had been informed that they were um not involving teachers in the selection part of it because that was the direction the board wanted to go the board was
035pushing so hard and that that was the impression so I just you know we hear a lot of things about the Board of Education and you know um it's okay we can be the heavy and you know be told for a lot of different things but I just felt like rather than my impression of you know where where we are on this or what what we wanted for involvement or um you know maybe Petty in mine are two on ones with Mike for pocket review um we've been really asking since October to have um I've been asking since October to have a discussion about like what is our curriculum review process and um between the holidays and the end of the year and all the things on our agendas we just couldn't get it agendized
036so now that I'm board president I asked for it to be agendized we were trying to connect and get it agendized but I I think there was like a you know between the communications from the teachers uh I think that there was a maybe a misunderstanding that we were looking for something like concrete about this particular item so I really want to say I appreciate the um executive summary about like what the pilot process has been to date um and what it is now I went in and I looked at the board policies and I appreciate this presentation um but I'd like to before they come back to us on March 13th with things set a little more I'm sorry um president Watson can I just get one clarification because I've heard you say that
037several times about March 13 and at at this time March 13 is not a date that I'm aware of for ELA El March 13th is about the math pathway so I just wanted to clarify is that a new item just because I thought we still had this I thought we still had this on the agenda for March 13th we can well I mean you can decide if you want to put it on there originally that was the date that we had it for but then we decided to put uh it on this agenda so if the board wants to discuss it again at the next meeting that's of course the prerogative of the board okay so um anyway um I think that some of the issues that I'm interested in hearing from the rest the
038board about would be like um the the process in general but also the El um Ela process and selection of moving to the science of reading um and the process so far like what they the steps that they've done so far because as you heard from uh Wendy Smith the teachers are interested in in being involved in the from the beginning with the curriculum selection and it sounds like it's it's been going a different way so I don't know would any who would like to begin any questions or yeah well I have few questions in other curriculum other years we had a teachers piloting the programs is there any pilot with the new program that we are putting right now with the new one that you're considering how many teachers are in that committee that
039you say that in December the over here in the executive summary say that in December what how I say teachers piloting the designated English language development program so a comprehensive AA ELD program from a publishing company so how how many teachers are piloting that program right now now on in which size that would be a good start just want to clarify because you you merg two different things the polot that we talked about in December is related to El tonight we're talking about a process for ELA if you want us to talk about the El product um process I'll have Dr Valentine and Miss Armstrong to come up and talk about that process but the purpose of tonight's meeting my understanding was to provide you an update as to where we are in the overall
040would led to where we are at this time and what our processes have been why they are what they are at this particular time and where we will head in the future based upon input and feedback that we have to date so that was a kind of a double question from you so I want to clarify what aspect of that do you want us to speak to this evening okay so the the ELA program as I understand is PA with the a is somehow because that's now called the science of reading which work for both languages and for implementation of English for English Learners at the same time am I yeah you're ersing so we started with an El process is what we were going to be doing uh teachers based upon those who were
041actually a part of that process uh provided us some feedback and that feedback said hey if we are going to be looking at and need uh Ela curriculum we may need to pause um that um process to move forward and so while we're still still piloting and going through that process and we're in the midst of collecting the final data from the El pilot not the ELA um that will definitely go into our considerations when we move into what we're going to do as it relates to the ELA process okay so um P yeah I I just want um some background on the pilot because um from the slideshow I thought it had caused an order to to um do a combined curriculum so I I was just curious when did that start and what
042curricula are you piloting what was the process for that okay sure thanks for asking the question I realized that we're using some terminology that isn't totally clear um So currently we're piloting designated e materials um the request to pause wasn't that we're going to pause that pilot right now um but that we're going to pause was making a recommendation for curriculum um so the teachers are going to finish using the designated eeld curriculum through the rest of the school year the team is going to give feedback on the designated ELD portion of those curriculums and when we move into a comprehensive Ela ELD pilot um and whatever timeline we work forward on um that will include the feedback on the designated eeld portions and also we'll have more information because teachers excuse me teachers will
043be using both parts of the curriculum simultaneously so that may shift the recommendation um so but that's that's what we mean by when we say pause it doesn't mean that we stop them piloting right now so I apologize for the confusing terminology can you um tell us more about what curricular being um piloted for ELD and then you also mentioned that the Publishers that presented um for ELA ELD combined were the same um for a couple of them were the same publisher I just wondering what's the process been like so far what's the name how many teachers are involved Etc yeah for sure and um I was looking to pull up the document right now because I don't have all the teachers days memorize Katherine might um oh she does um good good job Katherine
044um just broadly yeah so so broadly in terms of a curriculum pilot we work really hard to have representation for each School site so it's equal representation um the place where Equity comes into play is when we think about the hunos program with materials if we're looking at Spanish language arts and English language arts at the same time because they have the neighborhood Strand and the HTO strand so that's a piece where we think about changing the numbers of teachers what we've heard from our teacher population and Catherine you can please clarify is that there was there's was high interest in piloting designated yield de materials and from the sites who have gotten feedback from their leadership team so far there's High interest in in piloting the ELA El curriculum I think something that we'll
045have to be thoughtful and like we've not designed what the process is is how do we include more teacher feedback um we have a vested interest in having a lot of teachers have feedback and also we know that and you know that um too large of a group is actually hard to move forward in terms of like having a cohesive decisionmaking process we do think that where we are right now in terms of having each site go back to their leadership teams is demonstrative of the fact that we want feedback from our teachers um something that we might not have outlined clearly but I want to articulate now is the reason why we were even looking at an expedited process is because we had heard from some Pockets um of teachers like we need materials
046now we we would like to look at things more urgently and um there's always that balance of urgency and also um capacity right like if we move too quickly will we lose the voices um and the ability to like thoroughly vet um and it's a balancing act between the two but our goal is to have transparency in the process which again is why this is where we are right now our principals went back to their school sites and their leadership teams and just said this is what we've heard what feedback you have for us but I know there was a question about like I haven't answered all the questions so do you want me to keep going or do you want to ask me again oh what what is the c and how many teachers
047so for the designated ELD pilot currently um the two curriculums that we looked at embedded are um mcra Hills one mcra Hills wonders program there are a lot of s's there um and then Benchmark um Express program um both of these two on the designated El pilot um these are two curriculums that are currently on the California Department of education's approved list for comprehensive ELD um Ela programs so that's what we looked at initially um we also vetted it through and I know we wrote this in um packet update we vet this through UC ational reports we look at other districts that are using programs we get anecdotal feedback from districts we look at their data and also we want to like know what their process is because again curriculums are a support a strong
048instructional practice and the teacher in the classroom makes the biggest difference um the third program that we're looking at that we looked at is amplify CK it's um core knowledge literacy okay Catherine just looked away c k a it took me a while to get the letters in the right order um but that's the amplifi program the reason again like Katherine outlined the reason why we are looking at it is because they have an approved um reading difficulties risk screener that was just approved at the state level this last December um that is a new initiative that we've been working toward um but the state is with us now in terms of looking at like some people call it a dyslexia screener um but looking at where our students may have reading difficulties at an
049early age um so those are three programs is that all of them that we could look at know we're again this is this is where we are right now so um I just want I just Poe knowledge language arts thank you Dr Dean um so I just wanted to add in you said there was 40 minutes a 40 minute presentation was that plus 10 minutes was that 1 hour each for each curriculum or was that 40 minutes for total all three together oh thank you for the clarification so it was 50 minutes for each publishing company so it was a long morning for our principal group um and again in a 40-minute session it's also a broad overview we were just looking to collect some information we haven't looked at these programs in this way
050until last last week so my my main my my my question for this is you know we've just heard so much about the teachers wanting more input and and I looked at our board policies and regulations and it says that um it says in our board policies like that the in the AR the committee the superintendent or designate which would be you want say what AR is 61 614 no what's an AR for those who don't know administrative regulation administrative regulation thank you Michelle um in the administrative regulation which like Dove tails in with the policies it says that the superintendent May establish the curriculum Review Committee to evaluate or recommend curriculum for the governing board approval um and that the committee shall consist of a majority of teachers and may also include administrators staff
051and core of subject matter expertise parents Guardians representatives of local businesses post secondary institutions and other community members and students as appropriate so like teachers are Central in the AR teachers are Central in the um in the Ed code policy that you sent to us in your outline and teachers are Central in the other piece the other thing is is that what surprised me so the the administrative regulation was done in 2009 and the policy was updated in 2009 so they were updated together so it's nothing this this board has really looked at in a while I mean our ourselves but it it indicates that the process is different so it says that that committee is supposed to come to the board and outline all the reasons and all the data for making this decision
052right it's supposed to talk about the analysis of the effectiveness of the science of reading the alignment with the proposed curriculum evidence of Effectiveness on all student groups applicability costs resources all that stuff it comes to the board and how the process is outlined is that after the board approves it then the pilot happens so it's actually kind of backwards right so there's parts of it I like and there's parts of it I don't like I like it that the I agree with the policy and the the regulation that the teachers should be a part of the decision-making process like I I'm I really I not even because the teachers would make a better decision than the principles I I don't necessarily know that I really believe that involving the teachers in that part of
053the process in the early stage would possibly create a lot more buyin uh that's just my feedback on that um and if there's a way to do that now you know um I don't know because I know we're a little in front of it but I'm not super crazy about approving it before we've tried it I don't like that idea so maybe this is an AR board policy that we could bring back and look at the other thing was that the um you know these this actually talks about approving curriculum in general and I think that we have some electives that we should probably also talk about at another time like music and the Arts but for the purposes of the um of this one is there a way that you thought of to other
054than like other than the way that where the principles are going out to all the schools is there a way to bring the teachers in now sooner than just when they sign up to Pilot yeah absolutely so um I just want to Echo what you're saying in terms that teachers are Central to the decision-making process like we agree um like and Wendy Smith said s which is like we're are the features of the classroom that would be using it so our feedback is invaluable again we agree I think where we are right now is no no decisions have been made um the principes getting a preview from the curriculum companies like that was just a preview overview to see what was out there um to see if like this would even be a viable like
055next step for us that's that's where we were no decisions were made um the them going back to their sites to ask leadership teams principal going back to their sites to ask their leadership teams around um the next steps are really around um the urgency question like are you feeling the need to have curriculum in hand before next school year um knowing that that would mean that we have to put together an X process or do you want to do like a more traditional process where we do use materials over the course of the Year while also knowing that we still need to ensure that our students are um developing strong reading skills in the year interim right so we would be doing both simultaneously and both of these plans have pros and cons to
056them so we didn't want to make the decision or we wanted to make sure that we brought that back to teachers to get their input following this process I think that like the process of naring curriculum again these are three curriculum that we looked at for the following reasons um we'll have a better idea of our next steps because the timeline also dictates the level of depth that we can go into um the things that we've looked at in the past is how many teachers can like look at materials if not pilot materials what does that feedback look like um how do teachers who are piloting bring back their um identified strengths and questions to their grade level teams and their sit these are all processes that we have typically have or are looking to
057bake into this process but again this is all very early stages and I think we're aligned in wanting to make sure teachers are involved in the process um so if you have previewed with the principal group um three different Cula what is the process to um according to both experti and year long um nearing it down to two um how what does that look like um yeah that yeah that's a good question that I don't have an answer to yet um and Dr de and Catherine if you want to add in feel free um part of it is is developing the process to narrow down to two will depend on our timeline right so these are our three right now um knowing that we could possibly looking at at expedited timeline which would mean okay
058asking our teachers like how could you how could you give us feedback on these curriculum knowing where we are in the school year um knowing that you want to try things materials out in the classroom so that would be a place where we'd want feedback from our teachers versus like if we do a year-long process then we again we would be still designing right now for next school year um but we just have a little more Runway I wanted to just touch on the fact that um where we are right now with this particular curriculum update is um in a land that is different from where the state is so in like years past like I'm going back to like long ago which is actually not that long ago um the state was in regular
059cycles of adoption like adoption of Frameworks adoption of Standards adoption of curriculum um and across like the county across the state the process was actually pretty straightforward the state would approve materials after all these other pieces counties would hold previews districts would pick from the previews um teachers would go it would be it was a set process and where we are right now is like we're designing processes that um don't Hur currently have like that larger infrastructure do we think that it's important absolutely that's why we're doing it but I just want to make sure that we have that context because I think that's where things have felt maybe a little more disjointed um because we don't have that infrastructure at the state level or the county level still very important I for that suggestion
060so uh this would be my suggestion moving forward for this we can get into our superintendent stuff which is still three hours would be maybe we do like two by kind of like what we did the last couple months related to facilities master plan and I'm up like kind of getting updates on those then we're able to like dive in ask more of those like questions they get more understanding because I think this is a really important great topic for all to know better about so that would be my suggestion is that we maybe do that so people get some more information and then in a month or two if this is a priority of the board we do like not just update but then a study session where we are are talking about I
061think these are good things to talk about we just have three hours of superintendent search we need to do tonight so that would be my suggestion is we table this conversation which is great stuff do those kind of two by2 to go in depth bring this back to the board in mon of two well I also just want to make sure that like oh sorry well I forgot and then one other thing was if it's it sounds like the important piece for you is uh like teacher right and so then that is also are sounds like they're doing it but and even more so sometimes people do things and people don't realize it's happening right so figuring out how right something that's our Direction right now is in this process in the next month or
062two also like how do we help teachers fill more engaged so whether that's helping them understand the process more or whether it's like actually bring more teachers in like but just that could be our direction to staff is right let's make sure the teachers are feeling included and listen to that's right so I mean I think that would be an overall direction and then the other thing too is that I mean Isabelle and I have toured a number of sites where they have the sign of reading where we've seen right like we've gone to um Morgan Hill we've gone to Campbell we've gone to other places and I just want to be like crystal crystal clear that I'm I'm really hoping that because of the proven data around it that we are not going for
063like elements of Science and reading like light you know like do you know what I mean like I'm hoping that we are all in in the fun awesome way that we've seen it at these other places where the kids are really pumped about learning phonics and just like feeling very successful and actually being more successful in their academic confidence and abilities for reading so I mean I that would be like my hope that the board that that's just not Bridget waiting her hand like I would hope that we can offer some consensus around that definitely and I well I know in KSA I was actually talking with other superintendents and uh I was asking directly like do you how was your experience with the science of reading and and most of the people that I
064T were very excited at telling us how they were close to close the gap how much they change very very quickly and how everything turned around so I'm I'm very confident that this might be the peel that we were missing before yeah I I'd also like to see if uh full in on the science of reading as opposed to like a bad balance literacy approach um I am a little worried by the wording in the school that says the process will combine the science of reading with a passion for learning um I feel like that's a false just jusos like I don't think that they're exclusive of each other so I really want to make sure that we following the data and um looking at outcomes and um doing what's best for our students and
065um the other thing I wanted to say in terms of urgency when we're asking teachers um expeditor for full or yearlong process I think from what I've heard is teachers are going to say yes it's urgent like we are we have children that are literate that are leaving our district you know every year thousands thousands daily and so yes it's urgent but that doesn't mean that it should be um an expedited or Rush process which doesn't have the Buy in of the community and of the teachers and um where they don't feel like you know I I want the teachers to have curriculum where they feel fully supported in using it um and so I think there's a it's a matter of like before there's an adopted curriculum what are they using then will there
066be you know is there some can can they still teach their children the children well enough um provided what is already provided and um without any kind of um repercussions for using only conscious Andel for example I agree it's just it's a it's a big it's a big part of what we do so I really want to thank you all also for your passion and I know that you are dedicated to our students and I appreciate that and I feel like this is a great partnership and excited to see um how we can together as a community really move forward and move those numbers you know that's that's the thing that's always driving me it's like why do we have such big outcome differentials that's exciting any other comments from the board so if I
067can jump in I think my understanding is um I like Michelle's idea about um setting up two by twos or it doesn't have to be two or whatever um two of you meeting with um staff on as regularly as as you need I was thinking when we were talking about the March 13th board meeting the deadline for agenda items for the March 13th door board meeting is yesterday so there wouldn't be anything new that you would get in your board packet thought it was on there that's it was I mean I I I was part of we had that on there in case we needed an update but then I realized we wouldn't be able to put anything in the board packet that's new because that was already due okay because we're that's next week
068okay so so we'll get it on upcoming yeah so we can get in an upcoming meeting as you as you desire um but I think the regular update this is really important obviously to the community obviously to the teachers definitely to the team here it's heartening that it's so important to you as a board um so let's just keep communicating about it and really have a good outcome because I think that's what everyone wants I have a question so the um the information that was given to the board like about the process and background is that on the agenda will that be available to people as background we can make that available I think that's really important because I just want to commend you on that like I think that that was like an excellent
069summary of the process to date and it had links into Ed code and things and it was like very very helpful thanks so much for um I'm curious about what kind of um how we are sprinting for our reading disabilities or there's um maybe that's a future topic um not related to this specifically but that is something I'm really interested yeah we can follow up on that thank you we can do it our two by twos okay good thank you thank you teacher teacher so my recap is teacher involvement and um in on the science of reading and transfer that's what hear yes okay okay so we are on to the next agenda item which I have to get back to my things it's number two quick things one can we do a five minute
070break sure um and two it would be awesome for this discussion I know we have to kind of Shuffle but could we like during the 5 minute break put table and like move the camera to the side so we can all get the table together that's what we usually do for these kind of yeah things I don't you think you could pull that off makes it easier for us use a different table maybe like from one of those ones instead of moving any of this we could just move another table okay so why don't we uh come back at 706 get 5 actually 7:05 make and uh let's move some furniture thank you vol be a [Music] seven just the board board and [Music] than [Music] that looks good [Music] I this where you want
071sit here yes just cuz I'm already here no preference [Music] needed need more than think you need me here right Mike we don't yeah but you're welcome okay all right just wanted to be sure it is that Tuesday yes it is you all have a good evening thanks bye bye you so you e e e well I'm going to talk to her Monday I actually recommend you wait a year I know you're doing doing it faster yeah or you mean like the entr training the new member training just the one day the one day one put on the list sorry to make everybody pivot it'll beace okay it's 7:05 and uh we're back uh from little recess and we are now at a new table and we're ready to discuss um agenda item four um
072which is where is it superintendent are we yes uh super approval of superintendent search agreement with leadership Associates okay so this is the um basically the contractor the agreement with leadership Associates and so this is a separate um uh approval item um for you to consider um but we can't really go on if you don't approve it send us home er okay um so anything else for the the information is in the agenda packet there is no presentation um so um if there's any member of the public who would like to come mment on this item I don't see any blue cards in the room uh please use the raised hand feature if you are remote if you would like to comment on the approval of the superintendent search Services agreement with leadership Associates none
073okay I see none um board we have a motion so we can discuss I moved to approve the superintendent search Services agreement with leadership Associates in a second yeah okay seconda thank you you did it okay the is The Interpreter listening yes yes he's thumbs up long as long as you keep speaking up okay so um board any discussion or would you like to call to vote should I call to vote looks like I should call to vote um all those in favor please say I I I okay chair votes I and the motion passes contract engaged thank you guys so much okay uh we are on to item 4B review superintendent search process so this is with um Mr Eric Andrew from leadership associate representative and Miss Jacqueline how do I say your last
074hor Porsche also a leadership associate representative welcome thank you so much we appreciate being here and good to see you again we're looking forward to performing with you as a team we look for your next superintendent that's really what we're looking for is us being a team to find the best superintendent for sunny Bell that's going to do what it can do to make uh all of our students successful and their staff and Community proud of the work that they're doing uh we would like to do is go through the initial meeting discussion items and that will set a framework for the process itself please keep in mind this is your search and so we're going to present information we're going to present uh templet we're going to present uh Frameworks but you can say
075you know can we tweak this can we move this can we eliminate that that's exactly why we're here tonight in addition to that we did receive some of the comments from the board asking to move some dates Etc all of that's possible okay so there's nothing that here that's in stone we were just providing a framework what this framework will also do is create the logistics of the search when we're done tonight but it still doesn't mean if there's something that has to happen we can't say Hey you know we' like to make a change here according with that being said I am going to lead the discussion Jackie is going to be taking notes and jumping in uh we do tag team quite a bit with this we work together quite a bit in
076the past and do you folks all have the initial meeting discussion item doc yes it starts out with Open Session oh wait yeah that's the I think the Ed part yeah today's data to yeah it says inial meeting discussion item is this the email us or in the have your agenda yep that's it y [Music] That's I think he open session got it I cop okay great okay so we're just going to go ahead and begin we're just going to go through them in order for discussion purposes and yes yeah all right so we're going to talk about the search process in general as I said providing a framework so that you all are going to be able to uh have a pretty decent idea in terms of how the search is going to work
077please keep in mind as well every about every 10 to 14 days we're going to give you an update that says hey here's what's going on in the search you can use that as talking points for your community people ask you so where are we in the search because uh there are some dat that we have and they're pretty far apart but there are a lot of activities that are going on in between those days we want to make sure that you are aware of these activities so if someone asks you a question you know exactly what's going on except we are in that process one of the very first things we do is ask the board sometimes uh has several different ways in which they want us to communicate with the board there are
078some boards who say communicate with the president the president will then uh disseminate information out other boards decide that we're going to have a a a leaz on or two people committee and those two people are the people we send information to other boards say no just send it to everybody at the same time there's advantages to all of it there may be times and situations particularly when we talk about the position description that has a timeline attached to a publication that we have no control over we may need some information quickly and so to have someone designated to say you know these two people we can they can make that decision for the entire board sometimes you can say give everything to the entire board if you do run into those situations here are
079the people who you can talk to who the rest of the board authorized to give so make a quick decision and it's not really either or because if you would like us to communicate to all of you on anything that is you know gerain for everybody right we're more than happy to do that when we're talking about maybe appointing a leason or maybe two people as this leason that's usually just for some Logistics if there's you know just some logistical thing we need to have a quick answer if you designate one or two people there's two generally two areas where that happens the first one is when we're trying to get the position description on your websites and so on and there's a lot of conversation going on and we know that ow which is
080the uh accs as publication has certain timeles and dates that we may not have the time to get everybody's opinion at the same time that may be one the second one has to do uh often times when we're looking at uh contract or salary uh R ranges along the way uh and we may just say if we can't figure it out at a meeting EV that with that at what we're at that you guys agendize it and then somebody from board's going to let us know here's the salary range we discussed we're local so that means that if you know if you need us for a board meeting to helped with the discussion just say hey we need you at this meeting one of us make an attemp to be there so that being said
081let's start at number two designated boards spokesperson leison what's the board's preference in terms of communication from us to you well you have us designated as your point of contact but we're perfectly okay with like the information going out to everyone and then just connecting with us when you need one thing but if you want to do it the other what does the board want to do yeah so we had talked about previous that idea that the two of them would do the the the the one caveat I gave to all them though was that after we have appointed like we have the person we think we want yes I want to be at least like how we did it last time because last time it was Reed and I were like something with those
082two but then we also at the end then we did the contracts stuff and I just told the board like I'm okay the beginning stuff I whatever but I do want to be inv of that so we might do a little bit of we might do a little shift of who two are after the person has been picked but okay that's fine but just to be clear to the rest of the board we are all responsible for reading that contract and going through it with a fine tooth comb yes that doesn't like just because you're not with Michelle in the room yeah doesn't mean you get to skip it you all have to do it yes yes and ask questions understand who the two L Brig and but we want to see all right stff
083we'll just send it to everybody yes and then if we need a quick response we'll we hit these two up and then they'll still let you know that hey they need a quick response on this and so therefore this is why we made that decision and just like like one thing I really like I was telling Peggy that one thing I really liked about the process when we were I was a new board member um and we were looking for a superintendent because our their previous superintendent was retiring um I really liked it that when we got to the end that all of us got the um the resumés and things to look through and to give feedback and it wasn't just like two people going through it or just the firm like every we
084all looked we all read them all and it was you know it was very inclusive for new board members to and in fact when we get down to the point we're talking about candidate review will give those all that information to you ahead of time to say here are all of the uh applications with their resumees letters or Rec Etc we will help you out by saying we're going to let's just say there's 20 we're going to say here our top tier here's our second tier here's our third tier you're not you're not restricted to follow that because I've been in situations where there's someone who's in a tier two based on our reference checks that the board says yeah we still want to interview this person we want to move them to a number
085one there may be a number one that we didn't say that you may say we know something about this person in our community so therefore they may not be a one for us as a community even though your your research shown that yeah that in Morgan Hill Jonathan herner was telling me that it was with you guys that you you had the act the current superintendent it wasn't tier two yes and then they ended up and there was I remember that conversation distinctly that's public right right that which yes that did happen so that's an example of that so keep that in mind okay and and also when we do that and I I'm getting ahead of myself and I know that W yeah that when we do that it's a lot of information we
086get behind the scenes that you won't get so you're going to look at paper we're going to talk to people so just know that well the other thing I do want to let them know when you have access to the portal and you get all the materials you don't know who we have teared at that point so you're going to go into it you know blindly if you will so that you have your own opportunity to make your own choices number three Mr Romero I'm assuming you received all of the information obviously because the board does have this packet ahead of time and so remember we mentioned that our admin is going to be working very closely with your admin to make sure that anything that needs to be posted that we will provide the
087language for you if necessary along the way so we good to know that in terms of the your email addresses I'm assuming that the email addresses on the district website are good found yours as well today so I added to our list to make sure we can get to everyone can we also and it's up to you but if possible it's really helpful for us if we have your cell phone numbers if you want to you understand okay great and usually we do texting and said hey just a quick update from that perspective don't use it often but it's good if we but no thumbs uping No No Liking anything on no no which is why that that's very rarely used but if let's just say we need to get touch with these two we
088decide we're g to text you two because we need a this response along the way everyone needs to send something yeah check your email just check your email yes all righty number five discuss the input from board stakeholders Etc we're going to go through a document that will allow you to see a couple of things one we ask every Ed partner yourself uh staff parents even students because we' like to have students as a part of this process if possible and that being ask you three questions and at the end that's where we'll ask what are the characteristics you want to see what are the strengths of the district and what are the challenges or areas of growth that you see coming along the way we'll also show you a copy of uh the online
089survey giving idea what languages are going to be Etc so let's go to the most important thing oh you [Music] yeah in our scrip we supposed to go through so later we're going to go through the list of stakeholders yes we'll do after this follow an agenda I just want you to know that I'm abstract let me say like the list of people that you had provided the list this the options like there's only 15 on here I distinctly remember you saying number over 20 and and then you said and some people had more so I'm like oh now I feel like it's incomplete so if I want to like just check these off like well in some cases uh some of the groups are grouped together in some cases we some District uh and
090also each district has unique people who uh you want to make sure you reach out to so let's look at the calendar okay timeline timeline to say mhm I'm assuming up to Mark 4th we're okay looks good good thank you thank you very much oh yeah there were a couple things there's one weekend where I put on there because Evelyn's not available for the May 17th and 18th is that cor and that's the uh actual interviews yeah okay [Music] at the top and go through so the reason why I was asking was because if I think that's the um if if we had to back things up from there I saw you had like the um like how would you would you would you try to move it up or you'd have to move it
091we we can discuss that because we have some alternative dates if you're willing to just go down this sure so online survey dates that's when we would make sure that your community would know that here is where you have an opportunity to chime in uh in addition to that uh you'll see right Bel below that where we we confer with your staff and community and we try to do them in sync so that if we're meeting with this the teachers group uh we tell them hey make sure you tell your colleagues go on the onink okay so that's why we try to keep them connected as much as possible now if you're looking at backing it up there's a possibility that we could do that survey earlier okay so just keep that in mind so
092May 10th through the 22nd as an alternate possibility you wouldn't leave it open to the 26th you would just oh cuz you need to close time to get we need to take all the information and create the exact and what we'll do with that information from the survey 21 possibility say that again 10 to 21 I to okay yeah no I just didn't know where you're do and the information from both the online survey and the focus groups will be used to create two documents one being the executive summary we will give you an overview of here are the trends that we saw from the various educational partners that we even to survey and then two here are the characteristics that the community says they want to see superintendent so we'll do both of those
093things at one time so if those things work for you for now we can move back down and we were talking earlier a little bit about how there are some dates that we don't have a lot of control over where you move down to April 7th and April 14th that's where Ed Cal which is the publication that most administrators receive that's that's when they published the uh their newsletter it's called it's the one newsletter that people read from the back from the back page forward because the back page has all of the jobs so everybody opens it up and goes to the back page to see what positions are opening or who's moving or along the way so uh we could do that and then that would have our deadline for applications April 18th here
094so no he's on a roll there are other Alternatives just bear with us we want them so I have I have a question so so those dates so you're proposing like three dates in like so you'd have the you have to open the survey yeah and then the following week you'd have you to have three days is and it doesn't probably doesn't matter any three days in that time like but you're going to have about three days yeah we have 18th 19th and 20th and the way it works we take about 30 minutes per group so we can in those three days we can get about 50 groups in because of the two of us between the two of us plus uh we'll do some virtual because they're going to be some some groups that
095is much easier if you're talking about external facing people that they may want to do a virtual versus coming into the district office or wherever we set up we have actually I think since Co found we have far participation actually in Zoom meetings that we set up you know teachers prefer to be home in their bunny slippers you know talking to us over the computer so um we'll talk with your staff and determine which are the best ones to do on Zoom which are the best wants to do in person and that's where once we've compiled the partners who you want us to interview uh we'll work with pus and our admin to say okay here we'll give them a grid that says here Our Kind points and then they'll start plugging them in and
096we'll decide that I'll decide Okay who wants to be in person we both going to be in person on one day two days we'll make that determination at that point any questions about that and moving to the the deadline of uh April 18th well between the 14 and the 18 on that publication then I suppose everybody's ready because they will have only four days to send their application so let me tell you what's going to happen when we finish tonight if we get your permission we're going to post it on our website and probably your website we will start getting interest immediately once that occurs uh we'll do this information here and people will know because what we'll and so they'll know so they'll be looking for time that's why I always wanted to get
097timeline down because they're going to be looking what's the timeline what is the position description look like because timeline obviously they want to be on wall to make sure that applications are open now let's do it and then position description is important because they know that's what we look for to determine if you're fit you may be a great you may be a great assistance to but if the community says here are the characteristics we want to see and that's not your strength then uh you may not be a top tier candidate and it also will have your salary range on it as well so those are the things that potential candidates will be looking for immediately we're going to start blasting it out to people so looking at the um salary range sooner rather
098than later would be very helpful and actually he started a little table on that comparison comparison to your local yeah people we compare to typically all righty with that being said moving through April we will be doing our background checks our background checks are not just the people who they uh send us because each application asks for five references and then three letters of recommendation we are going to be very picky in terms of who we identify as we're going to call we will almost always look for people we know so we can have offline conversations with them even if they've written a letter of recommendation we ask off okay offline tell us tell us what you what did the critics say about them what did their admirer say about them offline so we'll do
099that and if they've been in other and then you also have Jackie and I but you also have our partners remember every other Tuesday we meet and we talk about every single search and will ask does anybody have any information or about this particular candidate beyond what we're going to be doing yes they were in this search or I know they worked in this District you may want to talk to this person about them as well but they didn't list that person and just a quick uh yeah there and then we go down to the interviews let's pick a date for their interviews now this was a concern right yes yeah well actually let me just check so Evelyn that's the weekend you're You're gone right that's your the 17 says all day meeting what
100time is the all day do we know is it like all day I mean literally all day it's like uh 8 till 5 the first day probably 8 we'll probably push it back to 8:30 or 9 depending it's a Saturday Sunday isn't that the weekend you have your thing um it's on the 15th and 16th yeah so we're not going to have a board meeting that that we're supposed to have a governance development meaning we're going to move that to move yeah we're going to move that anyway okay so I thought you were going the whole weekend but you're but you're not available Sunday and you're coming back what day in start FR um Friday the 16th 16 okay okay so could we do it the 24th the following week oh I think it should
101be the week earlier I already don't like how late this date is so were you looking at maybe is the 9th and 10th yeah how about the 9th and 10th for everyone well the nth is Tuesday 10th and 11 well no we can't do su I can't do so for 10th and 17th can we do Satur I prefer not weekend I could do weekend but I pre yeah it does not have to be weekend but I think Thursdays don't work for you right so it might have to be Friday Satur got okay 8 and N may may oh May okay could they be separated by one day like it depends let me tell you C for your candidate because they might be try and we might potentially do it in just one day like last
102year we did it in one day you might depending on how many candidates you interiew so if yeah it is not unusual for do it one day but we want to have the next day available if needed yes just know if it's a one day you're talking about typically 8:30 chill about eight so it's a 12 hour it is done been done how long are interviews do you typically 55 minutes to an hour but remember there's a cascading effect here if we change the um meeting date for interviews we also have to look at when are we doing the special meeting for a candidate selection with you because that's going to have to be backed up and then that might also affect our deadline so how about 12 14 12 through 14 12 and 13
10312 13 that's Monday and Tuesday I work on Monday but maybe I to go or 13 and 14 so I work Monday Wednesday right now this year next year I'm changing my schedule um so is this when you say all day like here the other thing is um like maybe the first day would be all day yeah the second day would be a partial cor half usually so like I could do a Tuesday Wednesday if the second day could start at 12:30 that's possible so the rest of you you looking at like the 13th 14th yeah like 13th 14th or 20 20 I don't want to go I don't no I don't want to go back so either 67 or 134 I think 2021 is too late I I work in the six so 13
10414 yeah 13 14 going around guess and the 13th is an early out day for those little kids can you arrange babysitters I said those with little kids ask bab please I said those with little kids can you arrange babysit I don't know can the district pay for babysitting it does get expensive well what I could also do is I could if we could I mean I could probably get a I could get a sub on the 12th you could get sub I could get a sub on the 12 I have to be down by five like I have a hard stop at five because I teach at night sure sure so I I could do that and then I'm open on the 13th so then we could do anytime on the 13 so I'll
105get a sub on the 12 can you are you working on Monday no I'm good does that work for everybody is interviews on a Monday is that a horrible idea or is that fine no I know is that gonna throw like is that like unheard of to do inter oh no no no no we do it every yeah so looking at 12th and 13th yeah why don't we do that I said Isabelle oh by the way I told you about my Southwest Airlines thing so 12 and 13 no yes thank you Isabelle yes okay I'll get a s yes yeah okay yeah okay 12 and 13 so all day 12 and and half day in the morning on the 13 I gotta leave at 5 which day turn into a pumpkin on the 12 oh
106we'll do that no that don't happen so those dates replace what they're going to replace the May 17th and 18th dates so let's take a look now back at the May 8 the special meeting we move that one we may not have to probably need to give them a little more advanced notice Yeah in our in our our admin each time too so let's move that back so we're need to move the May 8th back what works for you guys if we did the if you want to do the fifth if you want to do Monday the 5th I could do it at 12:30 sorry I don't know your SCH is May 8 May May 8 what about Tuesday so [Music] you what about Friday the 2 during during the work day what is that
107okay question is this an all day meeting no this is probably about two and a half hours so we could do evening meeting what if we do it in the evening so oh yeah in fact I would suggest if you do it anything Tuesday the 6 thef showcases that night okay what no we can't do the six do let's go back to the second I thought you were talking about Friday the second during during during the work day on the second would that work for everybody what time is during the work day is that you guys it's your because there's nobody but you guys involved in that meeting Friday we're not talking about night we're talking about during the work day on the second right now 1:30 to yeah well I think earlier is proba
108better for both kids I have 12 so you do like 9 to 12 yes you double checking I'm going to just double check one [Music] thing know so what time did you say again yes oh like you're confirming like you know you're okay that's what that was yes I can do my second all righty 9 to 12 all righty that's good May second we're good we moved it all up the that's good okay all righty so that's in person or on Zoom or we don't know that's May seconds in person okay that'll be in here like this what time is it 9 9 to 12 you got it did you get that may second 9 to 12 and then just to double double check it's um all day Friday all day Mond Monday the 5th
109and Monday the 12th I'm sorry' you get theth okay sorry all day Monday the 12th yes um and then hold on the 13th correct like a morning half day half day hold is half day just because we don't know there's a chance we might pick it all on Monday and not need to use the that chosing right so if we we on Monday 4 5:00 decide who our superintendent is then we don't do Tuesday we haven't decided then we come back maybe we do maybe it's a followup like Hey we're bringing our top two back and having them interview and then we pick that morning so for the sake of calendaring do we want to reserve the morning 9 to 12 again like or like is that a TLD or what is happening on the
11013 it's early release it is a early release so so 9 to 12 yeah 9 to 12 do you get out you get them at 12 or 12:30 yeah 9 to 12 okay so let's do 9 to okay and the so for the candidate picking night I assume we'll just do it in here but that other one are we doing it offsite yes correct toite so when we're interviewing the the candidates right we want it to be in private space so we'll do it offsite like a hotel or okay so May 12th and 13 May 12th and 13 it'll be inside it's okay has to be with and so there we're looking at we don't have to finalize the validation visit because it all depends on who the candidate is you guys get to decide
111if you're going to have one based on the candidate themselves and then in terms of the board approval sorry can you repeat that one more time yes looking at where it says tell a little about what that looks like since we didn't do that like typically what happens is let's just say that your new superintendent's coming from I'm gonna throw Morgan Hill just because no reason I well that's interesting right and so basically what happens is the board may decide that they want to go down and talk to the board members in or the board may also decide that you know what we're going to have our teachers union meet with their teachers union on that same date you may have but this is like you've already decided them but not officially like well they're
112not official until they are approved at a regularly scheduled board member so what you do is you will say and we'll talk a little bit about the uh uh press release but you'll say we've identified a finalist does it mean that they are are the actual line and so it's very rarely done now but the board can decide as I said we don't have to decide tonight but you just need to be aware of there is that possibility if you want to go down and see that uh person in their work environment and talk to people in their work environment then you can do that I will say um well at least in the last six years yeah pre we haven't yeah I haven't done that but some words and I would want to see
113them crying like we're so sad they're leaving you know that's what I would want to see I wouldn't be really happy unless they were like all in tears or mad at us well just just remember this the superintendent that you're stealing is going to basically select you know the people that you know the union people and that that you're going to be me Assistance or assistance and chances are that you know they'll have a feeling that they want those people to say how sad they are you know have you but I will say that one of the things that um another board that I worked with uh relatively recently decided to do was instead of an actual visitation they did Zoom meetings with their job alikes so board members did a zoom meeting with the
114um board members and then assistant sups did a zoom meeting with the assistant soups um and I can't remember how many more they did but so kind to get like a feel like what's their leadership style like like what are some tips working with them or what should we be afraid of when they first come what's their favorite chocolate so that's we'll we'll I said we'll get to that when we have the candidate review meeting that's where we start to get a better sense and then have to you uh once you've identified your finalist then you can decide on that and then the last thing we have here is the uh approval date these are ularly scheduled board meetings we have here and so that's when that person would uh typically be announced that you
115bring their family to that particular board meeting and we can move forward from there so we need to do the stakeholding yes we're going yes question would the um would the it says the week of May 19th is that still when we would do the um validation process the following week or would we you can move it out roll into it yeah if you were looking for a because because we have a board we have a do have a regularly scheduled board meeting the 29th of May so either way that's our Target date right yeah because we're gonna oh no actually wait are we doing the 2 I have May 1st and May 15th as regular board meetings this is like an old 1 15th and 29th this like so does this mean we cannot
116appoint the superintendent until June because it has to be at a regular meeting no and we don't currently have a regular scheduled meeting when's your next schedu meeting after the interview date the interviewing the 12 15th and I don't think we'll have a contract ready by that fast wait I thought we had the I thought the 15 16th where was the governance meeting that we were that we have to move anyway yeah so um the next one after that is June 4th yeah so we'll need one in between that but that's my question because it's not a regular scheduled meeting we can't we can't create a new meeting so you said the 15th so may yeah but Evelyn won't be here that's okay if we just have to we would have I doubt I'd be
117surprised if we had a contract negotiated and ready by then because You' have to have the agenda posted before that so it's literally not possible it's going to be the June meeting point yeah because it usually takes about a week at least to do the contract negotiations yeah yeah because you guys are going to have a contract the candidate is going to take that contract and give it to either their attorney or someone from access to review there may be some changes that they request so it kind of goes back and forth so typically it's going to be about at least a week to 10 days before you get that so June 4th it's a Wednesday Wednesday yeah all right got it got it June 4th all righty moving on Ed Partners if you call
118in the presentation I mentioned that this is an opportunity for you to look at pockets of your community who may not typically participate in school events but to do a careful Outreach to them to say hey you know what MH we really want you to be a part of this process we want us sched time for your community to uh talk to the research Consultants along the way so who are we missing well would you like to start and make sure that you want all of those that are listed and then we can find out are some of these maybe going to be separate you know from others um so if we start with number one the Border de okay we're going to do that uh obviously today um and then uh you want us
119to speak with your current superintendent yeah okay any former superintendant you'd like us to talk to so I think if you can't Ben so Ben our last one Ben peard he's great he's out of town a lot so like if you can chat with him but I think also like he's not as connected right now so I don't think like if you don't not super critical but he like right I bet we can find yeah he probably be on a cruise that's right you're right that's what I'm saying you might have to go join him on a cruise to chat with them IDE as long doesn't have his 400 grandchild with [Music] him okay cabinet obviously then District leadership and um sometimes uh districts want to split this up and have principles meet with us
120as a principal group and then maybe directors and coordinators as the Director coordinator group yeah in fact we almost recommend that because of the position Dynamic that principles might not be able to speak us freely if have the direct separate we're going to separate those those and keep the directors in together principles what are your thoughts on that we have yes um so we have executive cabinet that's just four of us um and then we have directors and Department leads okay okay so that's that's like there's a little differentiation there okay um and then there's principles and then there's a lot of assistant principles so I think you want to make sure that you heard the assistant principles yeah that's another group maybe separate from the principles yeah I would do that just because it's
121the right yeah okay so do you want it would be the dep the director and Department leads do you have any coordinators yes so would they they could be they could be in there too okay well yeah we have 50 meetings yeah so do you want directors Department leads and coordinators in one group no okay separate directors directors by themselves for sure directors and Department leads because that means that's that's our cabinet it and then coordinators coordinators could be said about managers that's managers goat and managers got it so directors and Department leads together and then coordinators maners okay okay I'll I'll give you this sure in there got it got it and what we'll do by the way once we have this list we'll send it back out to you and ask you is
122there anybody's missing yeah so here's the list here's the list and so on so then um classified staff um including the district office staff we generally try to do a you all you know join a zoom because that's usually easier for people um are you okay with including the district office staff and all classified or do I separate them out I think because they're here a lot of them are here you know like I I think there's don't they have like a meeting I don't know what they Me by departments yeah I think I think you're going to have like both the zoom option and person option we can I think that would be good yeah and we will also look at your list and say okay are there some natural times in our time
123plan that they need anyway yeah and so we'll say okay uh meeting we plug in PL in exactly the reason I said that is like the people who are here there's a lot of them that are here they just here so we could just be here they could be here that's pretty like do a classified meeting at yeah district office and a classified over zoom and they you want a zoom one for everyone okay got it all righty uh certificate who's confidential like I know that term but I don't really know the term Jus Jus is the only confidential stuff now [Music] typically your superintendent usually hr's admin is one sometimes business your payroll is is the other usually those three are confidential and sometimes there's more but yeah yeah okay what do we decide
124we want to do confidential with district office now classifi they could be with the I suggest you don't I think conf to be a group of their own group yeah because can speak up more yeah they have they have a very unique role and perspective of the district yeah I said they're going to hear a lot of stuff yeah because they get a lot of it and they buffer some of it even from their managers and so on okay looking at your it'd be fun to be you guys in these meetings know what just so that you know we actually take down Verbatim what people tell us as a group everything is Anonymous except it is disaggregated by group you see all of our comments so you'll know not our comments you see the comments
125all right going down looking at so certificated we're okay there how about number eight pretty clear so quick question first certificated last time did we no I'm probably mixing up I was trying to say did we have you guys go to each School site but that might be related to our uh facility master plan strategic plan yeah I think well well no this was like for plan this would have been a facility master plan probably and that would make so how do you do for certificated the same thing we usually do a [Music] zoom we could split it up into Middle School let's do that I like that Elementary you guys I like that too okay so that's like all the um like the slps is what like the the um not just class teachers
126it's all the corre exactly do you have seu or just CA so we usually do their ex okay students is there a district what's the day of our April 9th that's what ionna a can we like tag in have students coming in for the meeting with me want that April 9th yeah from 11 to one you don't take the whole thing they just would take like 15 minutes of [Music] it believe or not students have a lot to say yeah oh oh my gosh it's they really really do it's and and because they will love this they do we also sometimes ask them to take a surve um so we were going to be doing stakeholder input in March 18 yes late okay do you have um student board Representatives or do you have student
127uh coun at your schools yeah you could go to the two Middle School leadership classes do that yeah Middle School in in elementary they do have student counsel yeah so Middle School they have student leadership and then they also have like at CMS they have the leadership club right they have the um it's the what is the name there's an acronym Miss Miss Cario is here miss Cario can i ph a friend what is the name of the student leadership web leer web web oh yeah right so they have the web students and then they have student council and they all like but they're different right groups so one of the things that we've done um is we contact the principles of those middle schools and they say could you invite a representative group of
128students so it isn't just your student counsil kids it's you know all those kids the kids that may not be necessarily in scho so will the principes have time to pull that together in the next few weeks it shouldn't take too long usually it's in the library and they provide pizza at lunch I remember I feel like we were no it but we were not on Zoom by then all of that was in person that was all happening in January I remember going to School site do something we didn't we didn't do a single thing the latest superintendent search on S even the interview just the interview no we did all that the interviews were in person yeah everything we WIP even though our regular meetings our regular meetings had transitioned to zoom but we
129did that myor well I was think 27th 2 okay so so I like I like the idea the representative I do think that because the web kids and the student leadership kids are also like if you said add an extra group if you had extra groups to add I would add some of those student leaders you know from those groups you could invite in the kids who are on student site Council you could go into an ELD one and two classroom you know um newcomer groups yeah right those are the newcomer groups those are the newcomers and um and just get feedback with like from them they might not I mean like because I think for any kids you're going to be explaining what what the superintendent is and does and what they're in charge
130of and and typically your teachers already having prep this is going to be your chance here's the position and so when they we come in they are ready to go with all kind responses and answers it's it's it's very impressive will'll work as M maybe if you guys are okay with that usually work with the principles as well yeah to get a sense of your groups that you're talking about yeah okay definitely oh yeah definitely and one of the things and vac and elac are typically groups to try to do in their uh they have a natural meeting and during those times we we'll be able to find that out work with jus and others to get that straight looking at I before we jump into Partners so I mean this adds more work but
131a couple groups that I would love is last year we had a Hispanic Latino kind of a group like of of parents that kind of we had Consultants come in and they were like doing stuff the whole year and then accumulated with this event with us board members there if there was a way to like do a zoom like I'm assuming those contact like staff by still has it like asking that group who already like been participatory and say hey we're having a superintendent search we would really love your feedback I would love to reach out to that group and then I think we have just recently started a similar one for black families and so if there's a contact list for that group I mean that's a newer one that's just started but I
132would love to reach out to that and those are group was talking about earlier group that you may not have it was last year yeah last year it was okay yeah yeah do that's like a couple hundred people total we gu the principl to get yes so we don't have an Asian parent Affinity cuz I was going there that's what I was trying to loot to as we kept going around I kept going circles on this one say not natural right now yeah that's start yeah okay all righty we still going down the list yes 11 11 did we skip that one cuz I don't no come back 11 mhm so which of those groups do you have and which ones would you like to meet together we generally can get representatives from each of
133those groups together but if you would like them separate we can do that as well each school has a PTA we also have a Education Foundation I think maybe putting the reps and the Ed Foundation reps together is that crazy idea no a little different I don't think so I think that I don't think so because the Ed Foundation has a board of someone from every school I think they would like to give input they'll be very they'll have their own thing and then the PT um you know there's like the PTA presidents there's PTA people you could invite you might get people who are available and people who aren't available but you could get a a big group but then there's also at Sam Miguel yeah there's um it's a different sort it's like
134a familiar who us like that yes it's a it's a Spanish speaking uh Spanish first sort of um effort going on there uh so this s Miguel you said s Miguel can we work with you maybe to or who's to find who the contact is so would San Miguel be with the PTA people or their own separate I think they would have their own because they would I mean even if you had a meeting in Spanish for for families they're they're a they're a special group okay yeah and we've done that so but it could be what if so it could we could just Reach Out them but we could looking at the open Community Forum if there's an English speaking Community forum and there's a Spanish speaking Community forum and that group is specifically
135like targeted but it's open to any Spanish speaking well and we had talked about like they were interested in actually when I talked to the C Miguel families they were very interested in um The District's idea from pre pandemic of having a quto advisory committee from with parents and families that would span both elementary school and middle school and so like they're already kind of unofficially that for the elementary school and then they graduate to CMS and they participate like crazy there but I think that would be I think they have a kind of a unique lens because they're think they're in their mind they're thinking about hos you know and and San Miguel okay well we'll work with group yeah maybe even just hos maybe that would be the better nomenclature instead of s
136Miguel maybe it would be like a Hos session hos session well colia yeah but then those two the S Miguel and Columbia also separately right PT well the PT won't be separate it'll be PT all together it's not like each PTA G to be the two together yeah because hos is goes from San Miguel through Columbia so hunos parents and parents grps yeah right but hunos is incorporating s Miguel yeah yeah so you wouldn't have to do s Miguel because like as we were talking through it was thinking the S Miguel PTA is sort of special but then they they could join the other ptas or do other things but having the hos thread is probably separate thing a separate thing so San Miguel PTA would still be invited to the PTA be a different
137um do you have SSC Representatives do would they be in with your PTA folks do you think sometimes same yeah okay any other parent groups or partners that you want to consider um I had not for parents but I had Outreach coordinators at each of the school sit I thinking about that tooo certificated yeah not certific classifi they're classified but they're they need to be pulled out yeah I like that yeah they have a different perspective I love it okay you're ready I get end up yes and then um service clubs rary only just rotary number one it's not like sunville community services oh that would be that's a or just Mar Bernard like that's as I was writing I think sunville community service Mar Bernard is the director of c community services I would
138love her may like inviting a group she's onary yeah so Marie Bernard is the director of Sunnyville community services and they're right like supporting people with low housing so she's the director of it but she also is Sun president and so she is a leader in sen she but she's she's on yeah so that we when we did the Strategic plan we did one meeting with all our strategic Partners together and then we invited the the rotary the city council members like everybody who can make it that date we invite a bunch of people and then like 50% were able to make it and pulling from that same list is a good idea a good so this is how you see it grows from 20 plus yeah I'm feeling better already addal grou right yeah
139but that could be the number 13 because the number 13 will be the community partner get yeah parent let me see have that did you want special ed folks separate or yes yes okay special ed their own that's I and the Strategic plan group what was that called that had like a good name that was like a was like wasn't like Visionary group or something it was like some was the cool no but was like the it wasn't the steering Community though because it was all of these leaders right it was like a name that was like I was like oh I don't remember sorry yeah I don't I want to be on that one okay all right because it was such a good name yeah yeah they're they're going to figure they're going to
140find it you're going to be like that's true that sounds like I want to let's go with the uh number 15 open Community Forum hold on before sorry one thing real fast so this could be a part of these people could be a part of that like Community Rockstar Group whatever name is but I think um people related specifically to the city is like inviting City Council Members city manager and then I don't know the exact title but like and it might be two different people but like the City wreck person and more Library Services I've seen about people who work a lot with the superintendent that is that two different what is what's the one that you work with is it the W person or the library person are they same people in that
141division so yeah so they rotate through no no I mean there's like it's libraries and parks are together but we work with all the people in that that's people rotate okay yeah yeah assistant city manager and DPS but I don't think the assistant city manager works with us you would be the people that were on the neighborhood c meeting to what is CBO something the one that we have next Friday is Park W and Library going to be separate from the rary city council City council's yeah part of the group people would be they facility Bond people that they're partners and they're always around cboc yeah they could be part of that Community Partners group they should be because they always around and helping a lot where would like office people be like in the
142school offices the front office classifi classified okay good question mhm so classifi is anyone who doesn't require teaching we want anyone like from business like of Commerce or Downtown Association or anything like that is that useful or like the neighborhood associations yeah I think if we did that open Community one then we could we could put it out to um read like for Community neighborhood association Reed Myers so she does the neighbor she's the head of like all the neighborhood associations they have a monthly meeting you could probably like quarterly quarter but she can put it out to thework she just say hey here's there's for if anyone's interested come join all rights of forums would you say you wanted one in Spanish and one in English so do you want them on two separate
143nights or you want them confir no preference maybe maybe maybe into different so is faster the English one and it's faster the oh you me concurrent not happening at the same time and not two different days but when you say concurrent you're not meaning it's all one meeting no it might be two meetings happening at the same time yeah that we forgot to tell you there is another very important group in the community go liable Sunny bille you could invite them to the sunny and um yeah the one of the partner what is it Community part leadership and you could also add leadership Sunny B to that list too they don't need their own meeting but just to invite them to okay or do that Community Partners something like that yeah get everyone to yeah
144and when are we going to do the community forums go back to the input so typically we do them at the same time that we're having the input session so for example we're looking at um March 18th through 20th typically we'll have one of those evenings does it matter to you guys we do a Tuesday thirsday can we go can we watch no we can't go then I don't care it changes the dynamic tremendously location for those that's where the location I think zoom's probably best for this might be zoom we're talking and you have an interpreter available right if we did we have to request it okay but I need so we'll do Zoom we'll pick the dates yeah and then if that's okay all right do we think zoom's best for both those
145do we think one of them in person would be better do we think like for Spanish speaking one of the schools in North sunal having it there would that I don't know what would do that I think one Zoom one in person always helps but they're going to be two different uh languages right languages right so one's in English and one's in Spanish but the zoom could be English with Spanish translation right so tell me this and the English one we could also do transl have translation available for both so tell me this uh in terms of when you want your Latino Community to really come out and be involved what's the venue that they come out in in person in the current situation current sitation is probably they feel I would do so and
146I I have to tell you ER can you know C corroborate honestly we are not getting a lot of inperson participants um people are just really used to zooming I will tell you convenient yeah if we get 20 if we get 10 that's that's a lot in person for Community fors the last the last District that I did and they were very you know um actively involved parent groups um the the board asked the custodian to set it up for 150 chairs so we had it set up good hopeful thinking yes it is but I had seven no we really haven't really I've had similar situations where the poor custodian I would say because but the reality of it is that people don't show up they don't yeah and and the convenience of it what's
147the date range you're looking at 19 yeah okay so we want to know that there be careful there aren't any parent meeting yes that's what I was to say yeah and the 17th there's no school so like if you send in a blitz on the 17th people might not be paying attention we have to get it out early yeah but I mean like a reminder right so like I almost if there's anything going to be in person I almost would think you'd want it on the 19th and 20th unless like there's things that are busy that night those we'll work with jus and Mike and get a list out and then get it back out to you guys and bring it back to to us all righty lot of work there we got done next
148one is uh languages for the online survey I think you may have a couple of examples of the types of questions and categories but for us what we need are the languages that you typically Andor atypically would send information out too Spanish for sure okay so Spanish then the question would be the third is our third language Mandarin yep that is our third I mean if we were talking about putting in a program because there were enough oh yeah right true I remember then after that it's typically we use whatever you've done with your you typically put out English and spish okay it's just English and Spanish just do that all righty are you guys ready for some fun this wasn't fun it was great fun this is work we got a lot done but
149now it's the fun time you and what are the characteristics you want to see in your next superintendent get out close session no why does he have to leave session he's retiring he doesn't care anybody other than someone like we're gonna talk to him anyway he's gonna give us his inut Yeah question that other that's just an informational page the page the one through six the is that just like the S like that's what the survey will look like corre okay are you ready at some point that would be different more Personnel issues after we're done with this yeah what are the the dates for the online service the dates for the on [Music] are March 17th through 26 unless you want it earlier in which case it could be May 10th 2 all right
150here we go yeah that should 17th to 26 you ready Jackie I am ready all right what are the characteristics you want to see in your next superintendent I okay sure my not all right um so I said it would be great if they already know our um District um if they're familiar with it and if they had um experience already um as um a superintendent okay um but if not someone who has experience in the California public um education um and not someone that just came from outside um and someone who um wants or um wants to have um like School Achievements um like providing programs that helps with um Student Success rates in um reading or math um someone who has a vision for positive outcomes for the district especially for students and
151teachers what we can do to help them Excel and become successful inside and outside of the classrooms um some someone who's not just filling the role or the title but someone who is actually caring um compassionate and empathetic um someone who believes in advocating for students and families and teachers and also for um the board um people um for for us to um count on them like we can count on that um person um not someone who is just um hearing us but actually listening to our thoughts and ideas I'm almost done guys talking [Music] too um and then also someone who is easy to um approach and talk to someone who's serious but also has a sense of humor you know um someone that will um because I know they're busy they have a
152busy role they have to be or you know um everyone wants them everywhere but someone who can actually um like go to school events um because you know they have such a busy schedule and I know um when I was in the music boosters and we wanted um at that time it was Dr um um bicard and so you know our our boosters were like C it would be great if he could come you know but he's always busy and so I remember you know um Mr Scott saying you know I don't know you know we could try and I did and he came and so we were like all like super excited you know so um someone who you know would take the time to um grant our wish so kind of connecting with
153the community yeah wow I have to tell you that was a great list it's good she's so good typing was the one SK I never realized how important it would be in my life wow impressive well you know I was thinking about it when you mentioned it last week after our interviews um and you said next week think of these things it seriously that was a good L I was like oh she's caught most of the stuff there yes Okay who wants to go next go add two great great okay um I'd like to see an instructional leader um who is um a builder uh not a manager what do you can you what do you mean by that uh I want to see instructional I want to see outcomes in our students that we
154have not been serving very well I want to see a shi there so maybe somebody who has um done that successfully elsewhere or has um deeply has a deep commitment to equity and has like impacted like has driven an impactful change for the community so it might be in terms of um you know academics but it might be in terms of um just you know even something like nutrition or achievement in a different way like something where it's like um able to change systems or yeah where we're really change like understanding the vulnerable populations especially very equity-minded and um willing to affect change and able to affect change so you know a consensus Builder obviously but also kind of a disruptor in a sense you know it's like let's not look at this as if
155everything's great let's look at it critically and um see those don't fit together consensus Builder and disruptor well yeah but It's Tricky I mean that's I mean we got asked for it right and I understand and then I mean but I think we need like a transformational educational leader you know yeah um uh well I think I think like in talking to like the idea of a disruptor but who can bring people along with them so like not disrupting people but like disrupting the system but disrupting the system disrupt people hon distracting people you have but you have to bring people along to change because we're we're set up I agree that we're set up with our strategic plan for making a change so we need on the right track we have to we have
156to help someone have someone help us make the change and like that's challenging I think another term that is used for a disruptor builder is also a Shaker and a maker that you Shake everything to change the system and then you make it again so it's not I've never heard that before I like that let's keep going Peggy what did you say a transformative transformative educational leader um so I think a a leadership um it's like a a culturally like um inclusive leadership but also who leader like I feel like whose leadership also like trickles down or you know into the each School community so that there's um confidence in the district um a good communicator can you go back to the trickle down can you just say that again wa it's not maybe a
157different ter oh not trickle triggered a little bit in a fun way joking a little I'm joking a little but for the for anybody who watches this on video and they're like what are they talking let's say um well I just was models leadership um and um has leaders under or you know that that also um that also not like that also Inspire others to want to follow them you know not because inspiring inspirational yeah inspirational um let's see obviously we want somebody that's a financially like fiscally responsible um uh defender of vulnerable groups strong inclusivity I like that phrase that wording that is a really good phrase are you getting that word for are I mean I think it' be it it's not like must have but I think it'd be really great if
158we had an immigrant or somebody who's a second language learner um that would really understand a a large portion of our students populations um somebody that's this is this is like I feel like just put it all out because there's there's so many different but somebody who's um you know approachable trustworthy authentic yeah that's that's that's I agree that that is completely mandatory we need someone who's approachable and trustworthy yes trustworthy is authentic I like that word she she's got it down she's impressive um let see you many skills and keep him on TR that's true that is the hardest yeah um data driven I'd like to see someone who's like willing to look at our um especially like our outcomes when we were looking at our focus subgroups and when we looking at language
159Learners or social economically disadvantage um you know the M mckin vinto students and um look critically at what those outcomes have been and how we can shift that and maybe by database I mean let's look at what else has worked elsewhere um and take those learnings so somebody who is collaborative and not so prideful like I know how to do it but like you know often times you know we just need to work with others and build that consensus amongst um leadership because you need that person's not going to be all of these things but they might have people around them that would be able to make them you know that that kind of leader um let's see except for the trustworthy they have to be that themselves they have to be yeah that would
160be really important I'm GNA lie but I'll have the people around me tell the truthly um I want somebody that's um that's present you know in the community at the school sites um uh were were you referring the same thing that Evelyn or a different space like you Evelyn's talking about like going to school event or SCH but also just like on School sides and and not in a oh gosh like the superintendent's here like I'm intimidated but just like you know in a like I'm interested in seeing how it's going and so people would like feel like oh look they care about us you know I'm not like o evaluation like you know um and see let's see um think I covered um oriented some a good balance of nimble versus stable um wait
161that's a new one you guys yeah I think um being able to like adjust to be able to Pivot yeah but especially like um I feel like especially with the new Administration there's a lot of unknowns coming down and just being able to be responsive and inclusive of the community and um shift like if needed right if that if even if that's kind of um just different than before like willing to kind of but stable in that like okay like like somebody who we can depend on is you know in in those ways and um yeah let's see inspires yeah I said inspires teachers inspires others um data [Music] driven um someone who's willing to look critically at our district and the structure maybe maybe has to make some difficult decisions about leadership or you
162know and just yeah that's it good thank you thanks let's go next okay so I agree with the yeah expertise in California education system is unique ER that can show some uh success as a leader that is empathic that ER if he's not as as you say an immigrant or a minority at least somebody who understand the multilingual World somebody who can speak more than one language so understand the the challenges that orys overcome ER somebody who is a good Advocate and has some sort of show can show in there can tell a story about this is how I confront the situation or did this you know as some experience in that show a history of equity is obviously empathic ER active in the community is important an instructional leader is important I I like
163the I I wrote earlier Shaker and a baker yeah I like that that idea because it's somebody who is not afraid to shake some structure or work with in silos of this is not just this person does this this person does that what if you talk to each other shake it other so which is this as you call it distru drr Builder I Str worthy approachable that driven but it's a leader that Inspire others to lead that's that's important it's not he not a king yes um and Inspire Inspire and an environment of empathy and balance stability cool thank you think you guys are going to break the record of the most Min [Laughter] board um I don't really have a whole lot different um but I think it's important that they hear you like
164and we hear you so like if because there's a lot that's been like I agree with like pretty much going through like yeah yeah so just you can just see well I kind of already like interjected too it's thing so I don't think we've talked about so I think one like someone who works collaboratively I me I think we've talked about that maybe not use that word um and then uh this is actually a note uh from when I had chatted with Ben when we first knew this and this one this one's from Ben is someone who believes in Partnerships um yeah and I just I thought that was like an interesting space um and then um's see so like I don't really know how we would this is L this is like more like
165how do we discover this was thing I actually wrote I wrote like a month or two ago um so it's kind of a characteristic but it's like how do we like how do we find out how they handle hard situations or hard conversations right um it's one of the in questions usually right right like and I think hard and there's like in lots of different avenues like hard conversations with board members hard conversations with Community hard right there's like there's different Avenues of hard right and each one of those are like hard for different reasons you know I don't know how best so anyways um just kind of yeah so how how they handle them but then also like not just the conversation but then like what happens afterwards right like what happens afterwards like
166in that interaction what happens afterwards also like uh right like are is it like a super stress right like like like can they like have the hard conversation and then I'm okay and I move on like some people have hard conversations and then they're worked up for like days or you know like I don't so kind of a tricky do they hold a grudge well that was that wasn't actually that's not what I'm referring to so guess Grudge would be an important piece yeah that's not the piece I'm referring to more just like hard conversations for some people can be a very like stressful thing so yes Grudge is a piece but I'm just referring more to like can they handle it just how do recover I guess how do you recover from those hard
167so yes you don't want them to hold the garage I don't dis agree with you but this is a piece and you do want them to have those hard conversations yes you don't want them to not have it doesn't have yeah yeah um and then go to my other because that was like my notes from previous and then my newer notes um so essentially what I like right what I wrote last week at our meeting and then all kind of say like I wrote We are a very active and engaged board we need a superintendent who can handle that um so it kind of connects to the hard conversations but not even fully right but just that we are right like we are a board that I mean you have like I think you can
168see that right and even way more than like the board from five years ago right like right this there's more of us who are more active and engaged and um right and right we push back into time anyway so I just think that's because the board is a diff a very different board than it has been for lots of years I think that also takes a little bit of a different super intended right like um yeah so yeah I talked to somebody about that today so it's funny you say that I it's a different board yeah this is this is a different group yeah yeah and and one of the questions we often ask is is something similar to you active Bo how do you deal that yeah really strongly to me yeah just really
169in Partnership as with us as a board but the community and oh that's interesting because I I think when Ben said it he was referring to like Community Partners but that is true in Partnership generally that isn't good I don't think that was what was comment that is a really good way to look at it yeah that is a good way to look at it too I'm adding that working partnership with the board yeah I was kind of waiting for that one to come up and and I think I mean and I think also right the like with the right we all active but then also there are two new board members right and so there besides just a generally active board there's also two new board members right and so there's added space with
170that and so I think some superintendant are better than others at like working with new board I think that's just like a skill that some of them have better than others and I think that would be a very important skill because we have two new board members and so a superintendent who um right just whether they have experience that or just like they could do a good job with that or whatever you know like yeah yeah that's next okay that's me so um love everything everybody said um I definitely had honest open and trustworthy on my top of my list I had adaptable on there which just similar to flexible um Dependable uh I would like someone who um there's a there's a term um that I read about a while ago that was like
171the servant leadership mhm so I'm interested in that because I think the idea of putting putting the job of and that's think what you were refering to saying that a lot yeah so you're so you're I just I like that terminology and like not so much about like yeah being king or being in command and control all the time you you have to you have to be you are in you are in command but the way that you're in command is by lifting all those yes um and in service to others so uh really need I think communication is just so important you know um being able to keep it cool and listen um and really listen I like what um Evelyn might have said where you know you're not just hearing us you're you're
172you're hearing you're hearing the you're engaging in the conversation yeah um I I really believe the district needs a change maker so um and that's because we've worked so hard to to kind of create the Sunnyville promise this idea of a portrait of a learner um and it's going to take a lot of work to get us there so some things are going to have to change and um that's going to be difficult so they're going to have to be someone who brings people along and encourages and supports and and gets the right reasons in front of everyone so um I think the uh keeping students Center focus especially the ad promise students I think that's really key yeah and um if I said creative um we need a solution Seeker with a heart of
173gold honestly because someone who's going to go take us through all this big change I think they just need to be they need to have a a good core sense of self like being a really just we just need a good person in there with us um and maybe someone who um you know gives people people the benefit of the doubt but also verifies you know like someone who's like very open yeah like trust but verified like we're going to we're going to like you know like just kind of that even tempered uh I've seen it at work in in other situations so um they're going to have to be pretty brave and pretty strong I think the the federal environment is pretty pretty rough yeah and it empowers people who can be pretty you
174know interesting that's inter so when you said Brave and that's an important part of bra but I was thinking more Brave in this like change making space that we're won right like that's going to take that's going to take a lot of bravy different than the other Brave that is going to take a ton of bravery and and it's going to take a lot of like I think the only way to do it is to stay centered on the students because we're not just changing for change's sake or because we think change is fun we know change is hard yes you know but we have like we've all agreed we have to do it we said what we want to be where we want to be right like okay we got to get there that's
175that's the job and um I really think like we've talked in the past about building thought partnership on the board like we have a lot of conversations about things um conversations over time so like I don't like we don't all agree with each other about everything but we definitely know where people are coming from we have a lot of overlap and I think with our new superintendent we we want to build some build a new team together yeah so and I like what everyone else said and that relationships are important like us as a board right like it's not we're not just here on the stand and so with the superintendent that those relationships really matter to all of us and yeah and I liked I think um that idea of a transformative leader um
176you know someone who just wants to make everyone better like the best versions of themselves wants to help people get to where they need to be and like move us all forward together so it's a it's a it's a great it's a big opportunity I think for the district and like I said before John Herer really scared me when he said you know if you get this wrong you're going to regret it for your whole entire life and you know and I'm like ohn you're killing me got to reach out to him John we do our tomorrow work and want someone who respects all the people in the organization that's very important to me you know like the people who are meano waiters it makes me want to throttle them and I'm a non-violent person
177um so we need somebody who's going to treat everybody with respect and and have a care and like you know truly values all people all humans yeah not just not just someone who's signing a paycheck and I would like someone who's um I think I said communicator and I meant not just interpersonally but someone who's very little like very trans transparent for the community like interested in interested in feedback interested in empowering Community interested in empowering the students and to do that you have to you have to reach out to them you have to be available and you have to push push yourself out there push push the district out there not even like yourself but like engage interested in engagement interested in community engagement okay thank you guys you just got started we're not
178done yet y it's just so interesting in a sense that this is the most I've ever had 82 I was say like great list but I also a great list lose because we're not going to find someone who has all of that only 82 things like we could created yeah yeah there's some but still I've never had that many ever we'll find that unicorn for you don't worry so now is your opportunity to brag about Sunny Bell because you're going to talk about the strengths of the district and this is what we use to recruit mhm when we look for candidates we'll say here's why you want to come here these things are present and so on so yes I I think that we have a great um Foundation like a vision okay um and
179we we've established that through the Strategic plan and um and we also have like the facilities master plan and you know all there's a lot of um the sunny Bell promise I feel like there's been a lot of work done to identify what we want to see in our students and how we want to be like um in theory or you know like conceptually um and so I that's very encouraging because I feel like there's a a great place to step into like okay there's a direction and a vision um I feel like financially we're in pretty good shape compared to other places um can I add on to the first thing you said so the first piece you said about having a great VIs the foundation I think it's also really important that there
180was a lot of community outreach it wasn't just the board it wasn't just the school district it was like a lot of people families and community members were engaged so I feel like I feel like we got a consensus around with that too right and that forms a big foundation as as you say in the community but it also ask a lot of what need to do because we promise a lot we brought yeah everybody and the grandmothers to talk about the Strategic Plan before that everybody and their cousins talk about the facility plan everybody we keep asking asking asking and and making promises so we need someone to fulfill them got it we have with us yes with us we have a very strong we we have a very engaged board we are uh
181always out today we were meeting with your wife and we meet statewise we go in a professional way a profession yes so we we we want a lot we wish a lot we have a very big wish list of things that we want to together there and and and for that we have a very healthy fiscal fiscally solvent District because we have involved a lot of the community we have been very successful in bonds yeah so they're they're asking for us now to show the parcel tax the ta% and and so they they will ask for us what are you doing with all the money what are you doing with all these promises what are you doing with all these so we we need to answer with numbers and data and and show them that
182we are actually doing an accountable what else she Community oh yes um well I was going to talk more about Community um Partnerships and Community um just interest and engagement um like and there's I feel like a lot of Buy in into us as a district you know and so I I love what Isabelle just said about we' made these promises and let's car through on those promises powerful yeah like what do you like about the what do you think are strengths well I think that um our our um strength that we all have is that we all want the best for for the kids that's I think our our biggest goal and that's why we're all here is because we want that and we want a superintendent that can help keep that keep it
183that way and help um work together to um to get there and then to stay there you know and make it even better if we think it's better now we can make it even better right anything else um I mean this is already this was already said without these words but we've had huge Community Support like one the bond and paral tax rate so just that there was huge community support and not just things right too I think right like generally majority of people are happy with majority of what's going on in the district right I mean there's always little things here and there but the majority of people are happy um I think also a lot of times when staff comes from other they come from other districts and come into our district they
184are very happy with like how things are in our district like I feel like that's happened several times the last few years where they're like and I can't I can't think specifics right now what they were but I just remember St making comments like you know like not the place of work for was bad but just yeah something about our district they really liked right so I think again I'm sure it's not true of every staff member but that seems to be a piece um and I think this is kind of what Evelyn said but maybe just word a little differently I think right us as a board me so a lot of times boards are split like our our board is absolutely aligned on that end main goal right and I would say like
185that end goal is equity and doing better for our Hispanic and Latino family so I would say we are like Absol absolutely aligned on that this would be going into like not necessarily a strength right like we might not be aligned on like how we get there or the Nuance of it or like how detailed we get into things like there definitely is some spaces where we rub each other but at the end of the day we are totally aligned on that like that is a thing that all five of us are behind you know and I think that's I think that's huge which is why I think we've been able to get to where we are and we all are absolutely like yes we want a change maker to like make that happen right
186so there are but there will be this is like not this is like a weakness or thing have to work on like right like I think sometimes because we have different opinions of how to get there we sometimes get a little splintered even though we have that main end space and that's a little bit of like we're a board who's active and involved yeah the superintend is be to handle us put that in was that articulate that well have and to your point Michelle often times a strength is can also be an area a double-edged way I should have said that of okay I also think um you know as a district I think we have we have a lot of um you know teachers who care a lot I think the teachers you know
187they're highly trained um they express when they're really concerned but like they're concerned about their students performance and their last update we had to the um for the elcap you know the students could they see that their students are struggling their teachers see their students are struggling and they are concerned they they're advocating they're pushing us to get them the resources they need you know as a district um so I think they're you know I think we have strong teachers who care a lot and um and I think that you know we have a culture that respects everyone's contribution you know like um even though I want more detail in our lcap that for you know for certain items so that we can see like where the um where the uh targeted spending is I
188think it's just great that like many many job categories are in that l cap as contributing to every student's success and I think it's just from the culture of like we're all doing this together right um so I I think that's pretty positive and then um you know the best thing about our district are the kids honestly they're and I think every time every time we ask them to like every time our students are given an opportunity to be super creative you know have an Adventure Learn an instrument perform stretch um kids K kids who are given like second and third and fourth chances like through our strive program right like they are like the kids take it you know like we create we've done some creative things like um for for students who are
189struggling in different ways um to re-engage kids and stuff so I just think like I think our students um I think our students are restrict you know I think uh on the student no also the diversity right like I really love that we have and again I mean there's challenges with it too but I love we have a very diverse group of students right so like raced culturally like that's one huge diversity but then also like privilege and not privilege right like it just we we are diverse in almost every way you can be right and while that also brings lots of challenges I it's beautiful though too right it's beautiful this like diversity of you know people in all different ways whatever I really like that and I think we have like I think
190in our district we you know that constellation right of like things that we're doing like with um family engagement or you know um you know Innovative teaching IDE you know methodologies and stuff or just like there's there's bright spots all around like not that like it's all pretty bright but like there's just there's some things where we just go God if we could just amplify that impact that's happening you know that would just be fantastic and so I feel like I feel like um when we have a lot of them thank you and I think my last piece would be like the I guess just like the leaders like the leadership in the district I think is like some of the best we've had right like it just like right we're I think besides the
191treat plan we also I think like we have a lot of Staff who really I think the teachers we teachers but like like leadership staff too who like really care and they're not just just doing things to do things right so I just feel like we we have all the makings to make the changes right it's all there ready to go right I don't know like right person yeah what are some of the uh opportunities for growth for the district there's some really big opportunity gaps okay um in our schools um in terms of um like types of learning modalities that that schools can't engage in or not based on like how much money they have or the PT can raise and so um that results in I mean there's already opportunity gaps in those
192populations and um and they are kind of exacerbated right when our our schools aren't able to see um opportunities with that Equity with that Equity lens right so um that's very broadly speaking but just the types of activities that able to um participate in because of where you go to school or because of the how much the you know the parent z c yeah it is we have three zip codes and it's like highest income to Middle to lower actually be four zip codes I think if we like I think the one thing about the the Sunnyville promise is that like it's just very it's very simple but like the idea like we've talked before like hey getting to take an elective or getting um you know there there's like almost like there should be
193a certain level like regardless of which middle school you go to or which elementary school you go to hey if you're in third grade like just like right now we have science camp for fifth grade that's really the only Universal thing that we really have right like if you're a fifth grader you're going to science camp and you're going up there and everyone's going to be in the same cabins and they're going to be doing everything the same but like other like other than that like we have few we only have like it's not so clear to me that we're really aligned on like a level of instruction or or um instructional opportunities or enrichment opportunities um and it's interes because even though we do want each of the school to have their personality and
194to be proud of of their own Al matter or you know this is what we do here and this is the program that we do there ER we will also have like a base that we say everybody's doing this thing right and it's not always possible and not always you have the same level of of you know economic equity around so the parents cannot always participate as much in one place than another right so that makes a lot of difference in the programs and if there will be a way to you know to that more Equitable yeah like Garden learning is only can happen on some campuses field trips my kid didn't go on a field trip until third grade whereas some some schools can go like you know every month or every other month
195um there's a music and art is different at other at school school to school um based on how much the parents can contribute often after school opportunities also that same you know like what's offered what what um can be offered who can pay for that to be offered what kind of child care there is that's very um that's very different sight to site um so being able to recognize I think like also that you know these are all opportunities also to learn and to like kind of uh move like literacy and math like you know with different inut different different ways of learning so as yeah as much as you can manage to provide Equitable opportunities in all sides without prohibiting one side no you cannot take your kids to one field trip every other
196month because you're the only school who can do it or you cannot have a garden because the other schs cannnot have a garden but somehow make a system that works out more Equitable for all the sites yeah and I think that's a a a leader like a top down just um in instead of like each School site has that much autonomy but maybe just a little bit more um direction from so uh one one issue that is I don't know if it's going to uh I don't know I mean it seems like when I hear about so Management in companies is different than Management in schools right right and so like in technology or other fields sometimes individual contributors become managers and then like they really don't know how to manage very well right and
197they get some training but it's like it's not in their it's not in their it's not their jam right but like in when I think about like the people who are are like managers of our schools like principles right the principles they are in charge of all the students they engage with all the parents they have the whole staff they're supposed to be instructional leaders they're top down and they're they're up too right and so there's like an incredible amount of like um there's a big skill set that goes into that but I hear about like like some sometimes it's like um I think to get all the principles like who's helping the principles how are we developing them as Leaders right like how when we're in the at the district office right you have
198all these people who are on different teams you have teachers who want to be coaches and you have coaches who want to be other people right and like how do you keep this like system of um and you know because we're on the board and like we have other jobs that we've done right like maybe this is just completely intuitive and everybody there is a way that this all works but it seems like um there's a management piece of this it's not like manage it like yeah we just need someone to go sit in the chair and Status Quo this whole thing runs itself like that's that's not the kind of manager we need but we need someone who who can support you know support the um growth and development of all its leaders right
199because there's there's so much like happening all at once it's like pretty in seems pretty intense right you go on a site visit and it's like oh you got a lot on your plate you know and it's like a Tuesday there's like a lot going on yeah so I just I think you we're going to need someone who's sensitive to that and who can support some maybe some systemic supports for that and with and trans with transparency yeah right so that people can also see that it is a supportive community of all including our instructional leaders good yeah um I think I I feel like in some ways um as wonderful as our teachers are I don't feel like they have enough support to teach as well as they could um in many different aspects
200but like I I feel like there there there might be a distrust sometimes if there's um seems to be um like a lot of instruction asked of them without necessarily like um like let's do all this data but what are we doing with the data and they're not seeing what is being done with what's asked of them and then you know just in terms of um feeling like the profession is respected I'm hearing a lot often that like oh we don't feel like we're trusted because we're managed in this way or that way so um just just respecting that profession you know and um knowing that we're all here for this students you know like we know how much teachers put in and um to also like honor and respect that in them um I
201think that's that's and I feel that we we should we we have high quality staff and teacher we when we have seen I haven't seen these years the numbers but we have seen in other ER other years where we are ER as a district comparison ER like what we can give to your staff and teachers we should it should be coveted position it should be something that people want to be so I think we should have we should be able to choose for the best of the best if and that's what we have as teachers as staff people we we I feel comfortable that we have very good people and and that wish you'll get the best of the best but our numbers are going the wrong direction so like that's the problem right like
202we love the people we want to support and grow but like there's probably some hard conversations because we're going to need some change because our numbers are going the wrong way yeah I feel like there's also like a culture of compliance oh your student achievement student achievement numbers not and not for like for the groups that we're targeting like specifically for the groups that we're targeting it's like um there's one school where the they put in tons of intervention and like the white kids their scores went up by 33% and the Hispanic kids they went down further it's like what are we doing you know so we have to like pivot and re reframe and think and it's like you know we we have some changes to make right yeah yeah I was saying like
203um there's kind of a culture of compliance you're not um really speaking up um because that um isn't always valued in teachers and I I feel like we really need to respect them as the ones that know the students the best right for them to say this might not be working for my you know for my students specifically um I want that voice to be honored and um yeah I mean I think it's just a matter of um like trust right just from top down trust and and building that um leadership that inspires that will inspire everybody to or conversely if we have to adopt a new curriculum and someone doesn't want to go with it because they've taught the other thing for a long time and they don't want to do it like we
204have to like bring them along and be like yeah this is these are all the right reasons right remember because they they have the they have the uh the heart they have the they they have the will they want what's right for their students but we're gonna have to like prove it to them a bit right really robust training and uh onboarding yeah well with human nature changes hard right so you're push back just because not everyone but most people just push back on change period right so working for that buy in too you know good sounds like a really fun job it is we loved it hly best job in the world it we loved it we really really loved it I think besides that I was thinking about when Bridget was talking about
205the um like instructional like like helping support principal structure I think that's a thing that is we're starting that right so like it's Maybe started and so I was thinking about another piece I think is started but is tricky and I think one of the places we're finding it tricky is with staff and or not not staff but like teacher staff like staff on the more at the school sites is this continuous Improvement and feedback right and so we for a few years at the board have been talking about that and like right we try to model like right we do governance training to help us right the idea like all of us at every level in education like it doesn't mean you're bad like we all can get better whatever it is we're doing
206in our lives right and so that idea that this is not uh and maybe that's where some of maybe that's where some of that like not respect I I I don't know right but I think that's a tricky space too that I think we have like I think we start started it but got to figure that out that like and maybe not every single person but when I say everyone like generally the majority of people how do we help everybody like continuous Improvement and feedback is actually a blessing and a beautiful thing and it doesn't mean you're bad at your job or you're a bad person right but like helping everyone at literally every level right like it's so funny you say that and so I say that's the thing that I think yeah and
207I think as we can get better at that I think that's what's really going to help move the needle and in a specific thing related to this is I think bias is one of the most important things like if every if every adult who works with every kid any kids at our schools was individually working on their biases I think that would be huge right and some are doing that and some and I'm talking about like like every adult right like even like the parent volunteers mean like you got to have everyone on board yeah um so that's kind of connected but a specific piece of feedback right think that's just one area is this bias work but then there's lots of yes we have been having a starting from the higher level now it's
208going down hopefully we'll get to everybody in our district but the the superintendent and the cabinet and everybody has been having a very intense even one-on-one ER meetings for anti bias antias training so if we have somebody who already have a background of antivirus training that would be okay something as a characteristic yeah good not just antias but [Music] anti-racist little KY work I like the anti-racism AL righty great list you guys and a great start so here's what we will do we will put all this together give us a few days for us to sit down and cab we'll work with Mike to uh identify the groups and and Jesus as well and then we'll get some information back out to you as soon as we can to say okay here's what we think
209we heard trust us as the search firm to make it happen and then we'll have a chance for you guys to give feedback as well along the way but I think we did some good work in terms of getting a calendar or a timeline in line I think we have a good work in terms of how we're going to communicate with you we've got groups and we've got the strengths uh challenges and characteristics so question I put a question in the board packet so um you know with some of the staff or teachers like there's a there there was when we when we mentioned to them like yeah you know tell us what you want from a superintendent like there was a question of trust right like of hey who's going to be reading this
210it says it's anonymous is it really all that other stuff like how do we get the word out what can we as a board or as a district do to like really encourage people like how important it is that we really want the feedback I can tell you exactly how to do it but you guys have to trust the system and that is I very I'm going to tell you my secret she if I don't know if she knows or not I very rarely give the board the names of the groups who fill up the this they need numbers and some of you be able to figure out just because of the comments themselves but if I can tell the people in that group I will not put you're the teachers group I will not
211put you the classified group I will not put that that seems to really lower the temperature because they do ask us that same question and as I said in some cases it'll be pretty clear because it's just the statements that they made it says in the in my classroom whatever right right you have an idea but if we can just say we will give the board the list which just has groups there are 47 groups that we interviewed we took all the information we look for Trends the trends we developed uh uh and created the executive summary and position description that if we give you the list because our our list says teachers parents has every one of the groups there but with some groups I'll ask that board the same question say can I
212take the names off and you trust enough so when they ask me that question I can say we will not tell the board this is your group your group some of it will be very obvious but we're not going to say because it's not these are all the comments from the teacher section these are all the comments all the comments are together from all the group and if you live by the executive summary that has everybody's stuff so to clarify your question so rather than on our form we have obviously group one group two group three were you saying that you would want just oh no I was asking how you guys do it so you would have each group separate you would have oh this is group one's common group or give you exactly
213a summary give you everything together I mean take all the comments and just instead of splitting them group one group two group three you just get by question all the question yeah yeah uh could it be separated seral class could it be separated in like two groups like staff and non-staff and then have comments yes and the that keep them from talking because I think I would kind of want to know the difference well the one disaggregation you might be interested in is sometimes the student comments are not quite as I mean they're or they're very specific to they're good but you know you may just want to MH no so it's your preference we your search I like that idea I like the idea of getting the comments like disagre all together all together
214I think it's fine and I I'm okay with breaking it out by student or staff and and non-staff I think that's that' be helpful for adults fine um I have one more group to put on there um as a thought was um there was a there were some topics that we were reaching out to families who are allies of lgbtqi kids and families and staff and so um just the idea like just see I think um Mike had the had some contacts for that or the district had some contacts that they were reaching out like for our facilities plan and for something else like they were reaching out to a group of of parents of kids of all ages and then they were very adamant they didn't you know they didn't want any they didn't
215want anything recorded they you know the whole they wanted to be as Anonymous as possible and they just wanted to be characterized as allies okay um okay so we'll talk to Mike about contacting them able I have one more related back going back to the groups I have one other I was looking at my notes from last week uh could we do so I had written besides you know like I mentioned like you know those groups of parents who are you know specific groups but could be within staff also do that right so like and maybe it's just I don't I hate using the word minor the best term but like like the like the majority of our teachers are white and like sometimes I think that they can dominate right so I almost would
216love to like for those who want to have a space that is not necessarily dominated by white people to share their concerns is that making sense what I'm saying that would be a difficult affinity group and I kind of backlash you guys would get you could get a back and that's why I'm concerned because I'm like this actually would be really helpful but I don't know how you yeah I I think you would get backlash I yeah what I'm concerned about though is like in most of those things because white it's not a huge like 90% but like white is the majority at all of our levels of staff and I think often those who are not white sometimes don't speak up as much because white sometimes dominates if I'm being totally honest like right
217yeah like Anonymous survey because that's going to happen with the community too yeah so I guess they can answer in surveys but I'm just think about like in these forums right we are probably going to get a majority of white people's comments yeah yeah I I I wouldn't doubt that and you're going to get in many cases the people who always right participate these tyes of things are going to be the ones who going to show for the forums really like lean into the surveys so that the surveys are pretty good at aiing out those other folks and and um yeah they they will do that they know that is anonymous and it is we we ask them to put categories in terms of of teachers parents dude whatever the case may be you don't
218necessarily have to can people like if they meet with they meet with you can they also follow up with like additional information if they wanted to or they just fill out the survey or they can do all of that yeah all that all that because sometimes they'll say hey can I call you can I call you offline like those three things and say and so on so that does happen in those meetings do you give your like your email address and say hey if you have any followup in the next few days please reach out yeah because I think our information will be on the website yeah it should be that's the other thing so yeah is there a a Web Master in the district he's right there okay so our our administrative assistant is
219going to be working with them because they're going to need to you know set up a you know a superintendent search Banner on the website and put the information okay good sounds good yeah so again we will be in constant communication with you and if we see glitches or there's something else you guys think of yeah you know in ter of another group that maybe we let us know ahead of time uh as we're doing groups and even if we miss a window we still say okay this is somebody in our community we think you need to talk to and so we'll make it work thank you so much I do sorry I do have one more I was looking through all my notes I do have one more related to like kind of yeah
220area growth or area concern so I think another one would be um I think recently sometimes uh the like the way the board asks questions of staff I think sometimes staff is feeling I don't know but like not good I don't really know the word right but anyway I think that's just and I think it just because we're a more engaged active board and so it's just a new space in our district and wanting to be mindful right like you want an active engaged board but you don't want staff to feel I don't really know it was like one of our we Parts but you don't want staff to F bad right like anyway so I just think that's another piece intimidated what's the words you would like to use uh ask Mike okay he
221said iing a weekend report to us yeah so like I would just ask Mike okay yeah thank you so very very much are we going session yes we are okay session will take 15 minutes so let's so who made the motion for the agenda don't get scared that normally doesn't happen it's not every day this is unusual this is this is unusual so I make a motion to extend the board you say yeah you just in case hopefully Che and who did the who second was it me or okay I second need to vote okay all those in favor I I sure I motion passes we're extended till 10:00 but we're hoping it's 9:4 we'll yeah okay I do we need to at least take like a three or four minute break are we staying
222in here and just close the doors yeah turn off the well I will let them know that we're post session and they be EXC thank you yeah thank you to the translators thank you everyone thank you okay come back in few [Music] minutes recording