001All right, we're going to try this again. Hopefully, it works this time. Um, and if it does not work, we're going to keep trying until it does. But we will begin our first opportunity for public comment. Um, right at this moment. Again, we have 12 cards in person and a couple people who are going to speak to the board of education. And those folks are uh on Zoom online right now. So we will begin our public comment period with student Alana Rubio [Applause] Moran right here. We will I'm sorry before you begin we're going to set the speaking time tonight to one minute per speaker. Oh, we also need to uh vote for uh Director Shinowski to be able to join remotely. Is there a motion? I'll move that uh Director Shinowski join remotely. Moved
002by Director Korn. Is there a second? I'll second. Seconded by Director Vasadev. Miss Charis, can you please call the role? Director Vasadev, yes. Director Director Korn, yes. Director Shinowski. Yes. Vice President Ch. Yes. President Brown. Yes. Okay. You may begin whenever you're ready. Good evening board members. My name is Aliana Rivier Moran and I'm a sixth grader at King Middle School. I'm here tonight because I need to talk about my mom, Yen Moran. I know you're making important decisions tonight and I understand there might be layoffs, but I'm really worried about what will happen if my mom, our op specialist at King is one of them. My mom does so much for our kids at our school who really need help. It's not some small things. She's there for kids who are going through really
003tough times. Maybe they're having problems at home or feel super stressed or they need they just need someone who can listen and can understand without judging. Before my mom came to King Middle School, there weren't people who did this kind of work in the same way. But she made a huge difference. She started a successful Latino Suns Club and equity family nights, a support group and a support group and events for kids at and families who are from our school and want to connect with affinity groups. She created a system for kids and families to confidently ask and help co connecting for local charities and or families that needed food or clothes and more. I've heard kids, teachers and staff talking about how much better things are now because she's there. They now have some
004someone to turn it to and get help. She Thank you. She finds Okay. Thank you. Uh, next we will go to Marina Cruz. Um, and Miss Chariz, we will have um translation for this and so there is um an extension of time. So if you could put two minutes, one minute uh for your presentation and then one minute for the translation. Thank you. Welcome. Thank you so much. scholar. In [Music] for measure. Thank you. Next, we will have Michael Williams followed by Will Barton. Oh, I'm so sorry. We need to do the translation. Our community is under a serious threat by our current administration. Nonprofits and organizations that could be counted on in the past are now being cut. and our community is losing support from many of its allies. Our district cannot abandon their
005support, especially at the most critical time. In the past, the district has cut the positions in the OFI office and specifically the Spanish bilingual positions without notice to our community. We seem like an easy target because we don't have as many voices present at schoolboard meetings or committees. Many in our community do not feel welcome to come to a meeting where only English is being spoken and the public and there are members, excuse me, of our community that do not have the luxury of making themselves visible in the public eye without fear of retaliation. We are asking our allies to step up and vote to support our community by making sure that these positions are not cut and to please keep the cuts away from the district's most vulnerable families and students. Thank you. Thank
006you. Next we will hear from Michael Williams followed by Will Barton. Okay, so my first board meeting. Um, one of the most frustrating aspects of the Trump administration is that things always seem to have a first step, but they don't seem to have a step two, three, four, or five. And this whole plan seems to be a very good step one if you're going to save some money, but no plans for how you're going to run the program afterwards or articulation of who's going to be running it, who's going to be doing all the work, etc. Um, I say the next thing as a higher income parent in the room, has there been any numbers run on what it would cost to keep the coordinators where they are and increase fees based on income for
007folks who make over a hundred, 200, $300,000 a year? There's quite a few of those in Berkeley, right? So, if I need to pay an extra 100 bucks, 200 bucks, 300 bucks because I'm at a certain income level, I think there's a lot of people in this room that would be okay doing that if it kept the coordinators. Will Barton followed by Diana Mullins. Uh, thank you for your time. So, I'm uh a parent at Emerson Elementary. I'm also the PTA president, but I'm not here in an official capacity just to provide context. Afterare is the single most consistent issue that I get asked about as P PTA president among new and incoming families. Um, I've also been made aware of an existing family that was not able to enroll their child in TK this
008year because there was no spots even though that their older sibling was currently in learn. So, I'm here in support of the learns coordinators keeping their positions because I see it on a day-to-day basis as being one of the biggest issues that is facing the parents at Emerson Elementary currently. Thank you as well. Uh Diana Mullins, followed by Elizabeth Eckles. Good evening, BSD board members. This is my final plea to save the foundation of a scalable learns program. Board members, we implore you, do not eliminate dedicated learn site coordinators. This isn't a $ 1.4 million savings. It's a profound loss for our children's safety and program quality. These coordinators are foundational to scaling learns to meet parent demands. As I've said before, you wouldn't do this without a principal. So, Afterare needs to deserve the
009same dedicated leadership for quality and safety. Instead of cuts, let's look at success. Districts in Alama County run afterare programs that generate revenue for their general funds. From what I can see, we can too. We may already be doing that at Craigmont. We can learn from these proven models and transform learns into a Berkeley asset. Let's grow Learns to meet overwhelming family demand. With strategic planning, it can become financially sound. Parents are here and ready to help. We urge you reject these cuts. Investigate successful models. optimize our approach and invest in a stronger, safer, revenue generating learns program. Thank you. Thank you, Elizabeth Eckles, followed by Lily How. Good evening, Madame President and board of directors. My name is Elizabeth Eckles. I'm here this evening to urge you to keep our dedicated afterchool program site
010coordinators on the job. As the mother of a fifth grade student at Craragmont, I have seen firsthand what a positive difference this position makes. Our site coordinator, Miss Jasmine McCrory's leadership, has created a nurturing environment where students feel safe, seen, and supported every day. She has grown the program by leveraging limited resources to provide learned students enrichment opportunities in dance, drama, sports, and cooking. Most importantly, as site coordinator, Miss Jasmine is the person in charge and accountable for our children's safety and well-being. The experienced leadership of Miss Jasmine and site coordinators across the district is exactly what we need to grow the learns program and make it accessible to all the families who need afterare. By scaling the program, we can address an unmet need for care, generate significant revenue, and contribute back to the
011district's general fund. We urge you to reject these cuts and invest in a stronger, safer learns program. Thank you. Thank you. Next, we have Lily Ho, followed by Glattis Stout. Okay. It's funny how in education we continue to use terms like historically marginalized students or historically underserved students. When we continue to balance the budget on the backs of these students, cutting the equity initiatives to counter these inequities, we remove the word historical. These students aren't historically marginalized. They are perpetually and currently marginalized, furthered by the proposed budget cuts. We name equity as one of our four E, a core value in our mission. Yet budgetwise, we treat equity as an extra, not as a central part of our work. Then equity cannot remain a central core value philosophically while placed in the margins fiscally. Then
012the eloquent words you speak around equity are rendered meaningless. Director Sinoski so aptly noticed that when budget cuts are proposed, we never discuss cutting programs that are also extra rich enrichments but are potentially beloved by more privileged communities. To center equity, you have to act bravely and center it in your funding. At the end of the day, the programs that are still at risk of cuts are overwhelmingly equity initiatives. I will not buy into divide and conquer. Fully fund OPI, fund bridge, rise, and college brown. Don't just tell us you care about equity. Show us Glattis Stout followed by Dante Gallon. We want to thank the committee for working on the proposed budget cuts. We understand that the district has many difficult decisions to make. OPI works with our most vulnerable students and to cut
013any position in that office would only further the inequity that already exists. Also, while it may be tempting to cut the 0.5 district Spanish bilingual position at the district level, please remember that the position, which was originally a full-time position, was created because only two of the district OPI positions are listed as bilingual Spanish and those are at Sylvia Mendes and Longfellow. Latinx students make up over 22% of the school district and those students are at all our school sites. At most of our schools, parents have to ask neighbors, friends, co-workers, and many of their children to serve as translators. We also need somebody at the district level to focus on our Latinx families. We are asking for you not to make any cuts to OPI. Please protect our most vulnerable students. You all have
014talked about the importance to this. Please make sure you follow through on that. Thank you. Next, we have Dante Gallen followed by Tania Hernandez. Hello everyone. It's me again uh here to ask for the continue to support the learns program by keeping the after school coordinator's position in place. I've been here time and time again showing you why this role is not only needed but essential to the safety success and future of our students and our program. Last week, we thought the board made the decision to support us to recognize the impact we have and the critical role we play each and every day. And tonight, we are hoping and praying that you reaffirm that decision. This is more than just a job for many of us. It's a calling. We've shared our stories. We've
015shown you the deep, irreplaceable connections we built with students, families, and staff. You've heard the parents who've watched their sorry who've watched their children thrive under our care. You've heard from students who stood here bravely to tell you how we make them feel seen, supported each and every day. We are not just filling in the gaps. We are leading the programs and changing lives. Because when you choose to keep coordinators, you are choosing safety, safety, equity, and stability. Thank you. Thank you. That's Tia Hernandez followed by Danner Dow Martin. Dear members of the school board, my name is Danny Arnandez. I'm the school secretary at King Middle School and I'm here to express my deep concern regarding the proposed layoffs and to strongly advocate for keeping the family engagement specialist especially at King. The role
016has been instrumental in helping clo sorry close the equity gap by directly supporting families in need in ensuring that students have basic necessities. Before Yenya joined our school school community, I witnessed the struggles of many families who lacked the support they needed. It was heartbreaking to see how many were left without resources simply because our school lacked the capacity to help. Since Cena's arrival, there has been a noticeable difference. Families feel more connected. Students are more confident in coming to school and basic necessities are met and students are allowed to come to school to learn rather than, you know, to focus on survival. This position is not just valuable. It is essential to our student success and well-being. Eliminating this support will only widen the family. Oh, sorry. Thank you for your time, but please
017take that in consideration. Danner Dow Martin, followed by Lizzie Hagard uh Barard. Hi, good evening everyone. My name is Danner Dow Martin and I'm a parent of a fourth grade student at Sylvia Mendes and I'm also here representing the PTA as the co-president. I've had the opportunity to spend valuable time with our OPI specialist, Miss Alejandra, and our learns um coordinator, Miss Anita, and I can't express enough how much they have made an impact on our community and our families. And without them, we would not be where we are today. I urge you today to consider these positions. I understand that there's many amazing OPI and um program specialists at learns. But because of our two-way immersion Spanish speaking community, it is essential that we have Miss Anita and Miss Alejandra as part of our
018family, as part of our support system to allow our students and our parents to thrive. I have personally seen Miss Alejandra and Miss Anita take students to and from their home to make sure that they are able to get to school to provide resources, food, clothing, and other that's and so please um consider this. Thank you. Thank you. Uh next we'll have Lizzie followed by I believe this is Jared Sanders. Good evening. My name is Lizzie Hager Barner and I'm back for the second time to strongly oppose any cuts to the learn site coordinator positions. When prospective parents ask what makes Kragma Element unique, I often mention our fantastic learns coordinator, Miss Jasmine McCrory. Miss Jasmine is amazing. Period. Miss Jasmine's most critical role is creating a space that prioritizes students physical and mental safety.
019Under her supervision, our physical campus is secure and students can learn and grow. As a result, families are able to focus on fulfilling their work responsibilities. I love when our superintendent refers to BSD students as our babies because each student is indeed someone's baby, no matter their age. All of our babies deserve to be safe. For our youngest students, safety means a well-qualified coordinator for each afterchool program. Moving forward, we need to grow our revenue, not cut safety critical positions. Thank you very much. Thank you. Jarrett Sanders, followed by Anita Zamato. All right. Uh, good evening. My name is Jared Sanders, the King uh, after school or learns coordinator. Um, first off, I've seen firsthand what Yasa Moran does. um and she is amazing and um she provides a depth that makes our program richer
020um by creating helping with the access to many of our students. On behalf of Lawrence coordinators, we finally got some numbers that we've been requesting and I just want to just share them with you uh from our ASUS grant 2.1 million ELOP funding 1.8 million parent fees what was that 3.45 45 million total of 7.3 million last year. That's not with summer programming bringing in revenue. Our operating costs were 5.56 million. All we ask is that you empower us with the full scope of our abilities. Invest in us to continue growing the programs both summer and school year and entrust us with the responsibility that you see many of these families want us to have. Thank you. And our final inperson commenter will be Anita Zamario. Hi, good evening. I just want to add to
021what Jarrett was saying since we're talking numbers that it seems like our deficit in our department seems to be around what we pay alo $ 1.5 million each year. They sell the safety and the um the equity. They sell what we coordinators consistently deliver and I cannot say the same for the Alo company that continues to drain our precious funds. So cut Alo and keep our coordinators if you really care about our students. Thank you. Thank you. Uh this concludes our in-person public commenters and we will move uh on to our online commenters. Now, when we began the public comment uh period, we actually only had four hands. And now there are seven hands up. And so we uh have only enough time to deal with those four hands. And so anyone whose hand is
022up, you will have the second opportunity, another opportunity to speak when we get to the second opportunity for public comment. So I'm going to um take our commenters in the order in which their hands were raised. And so we will begin with Gabriella Martinez followed by Paula Phillips. Oh my apologies. Um Andres is a student and so um Andres will actually go first and then we will go to Gabriella Martinez. If there are any other students who are uh interested in speaking along with Andre, please put S beside your name and so we can identify you as a student. Thank you. Welcome Andress. Whenever you are ready, you may begin. Andress, can you hold on for just one second? There isn't sound and I believe that everyone should be able to hear what you were
023saying. So, we're going to fix that quickly. Andreas, we are going to ask you to begin again. And what we'll do is we will um try to kind of do some troubleshooting here in the boardroom. And so we're going to see if we're we're able to hear you. And if we are, we'll receive your comment. And then if we cannot hear you, then um we're going to ask you to just hold tight for a moment. Okay. So Andreas, if you want to start, we can see if we'll be able to hear you in here. Okay. Okay. And Alejandra Familia Figas [Applause] bene Andres. Miss Travis, can you please translate? Thank you, Andre. Andres called in in support of Miss Yasna. Um, and he is grateful for the support that you provided his peers and his
024family. Um, and that was it. Thank you, Andreas. Next, we will move on to Gabriella Martinez, followed by Paula Phillips. You get the young Miss Anita, Miss Office. [Music] Thank you so much Miss Chavez if you could also translate. They called in support of Miss Yennena, Miss Alejandra and I'm sorry if I missed the other name. They are Miss Anita and they are grateful for the support Ofie has provided him and his family and you guys are Thank you. All right. Now we will move to Paula Phillips followed by Natalie Miller. [Music] Whenever you're ready, welcome. You may begin. Good evening, board members. Before you finalize tonight's resolution, I want you to know that the bear budget was amended to include a classified administrative assistant for the personnel commission just today. This position was not
025reflected accurately in the commission's budget last year or this year. Even though the commission is already funded from the general fund and its sole purpose is recruitment and retention, the assistant superintendent of HR and the commission's executive director rated the bear budget after the board adopted and approved the 2324 budget from the general fund. Were you aware of this? Probably not because it was wasn't in the plan until I brought it to your attention. I hope this budget session with all of its challenges has opened your eyes to review staff's recommendations carefully in the future. When you took the oath as board members, you promised to be good stewards over the district's funds and I have faith that you will. Thank you. Thank you. Our last public com or our last public commenter for Zoom
026will be Natalie Miller. Okay. Are you able to hear me? Are you able to hear me? Yes, Natalie, we're able to hear you. Welcome. Hi, my name is Natalie Miller and I'm a school of admin too with the Bears program. We don't have the same direct inperson engagement with the families as the other programs to advocate for us, but we definitely have an integral part on how things are impacted. This includes helping correlate between both programs, Bears and Learns, during the school year and summer. Bears has five sites and two transfer sites. The decision to eliminate two admin positions and hire one new administrator to manage the workload of a total of seven sites is something that I think would be important to be reviewed especially also with the transition and management and the restructuring
027of everything and the impact that it has on the families and the students. Thank you. Thank you as well. My apologies to everyone who is on Zoom who didn't get the opportunity to speak. Um, as a reminder, we have a second opportunity for public comment after we deal with our agenda item. So, we invite you to please stay online. Please continue to raise your hands so that when we get to the second opportunity, we will be able to hear from you. Um we will now move on to our agenda item tonight which is item 4.1. Um before we begin I just want to uh provide some context. So during our last board meeting or last Wednesday, uh this resolution came before the board of education um and there were some amendments and some suggestions that
028were made by myself, by director Shinowski as well as director Vasude Dev and the board of education took action on those recommendations. Um and then we it was shared with the board um that specifically the recommendation that was made um from director Vasu Dev needed to be um amended and corrected because of language. And so uh we unfortunately ran out of time during that meeting and there should be no action that has taken place after uh the meeting time has ended. And so that prevented us from being able to take action, prevented us from being able to uh take care of the amendment. And so it was my decision to come back as a special meeting um so that we could address uh uh director Vasuv's recommendation and so that we could take uh the
029proper action after receiving the guidance from associate superintendent um Samantha Tobias Espinosa. So, what brings us here tonight um is only to deal uh with that item. And so, um it is a a bit misleading because you see that the resolution um is put on the agenda for tonight. And so, that kind of leads to some confusion as well as some conversations or scuttlebutt that has been happening in the district that led folks to believe that we are doing an entirely different vote tonight. Um that is different from the action that we took last week. Um, and that is not why I am here, and I'm sure that's not why the rest of my board directors are here. Uh, tonight's meeting was called specifically to deal um with that amendment item. Um, it is thought
030of as a revote. Um, that's the vehicle uh that that could be used, but it is actually just an amendment to that language. Anything outside of that, any action that's taken outside of that would not be germanine. And so um I think it is very important that I begin this conversation with that. And then the second thing um that needs to take place is just to hear um from staff what action does staff believe the board needs to take to um clarify and to implement the vote that was taken on last Wednesday. So, if there's anything that staff would like to reply to or say, this is the time to do so. And if any board dire directors have any questions that is specific to the uh task at hand tonight, this is the time
031to ask. Thank you, President Brown. First of all, good evening, B USC family. Um so staff's uh requests is that one the board clarifies um whatever recommendations or amendments were proposed and approved at the last meeting. I'm definitely considering what you just shared, President Brown, in terms of a possible change or um reconsideration to that particular amendment from the last meeting tonight. And then also staff wants to be clear on if uh board is taking action on each of the items or positions that was pulled and specifically what those actions are be it to um resend the notices for those particular pool positions um or otherwise engage in the discussion. So that's the clarity we need just again what the amendment is and um the clear direction from the board around each of the items
032positions and classifications that was pulled last week. Um if I can just respond during the last meeting um staff asked for clarification around those positions and it was provided and so we'll provide that again for tonight. Um the clarification that was provided was for the um uh 9.0 FTE for the afterchool coordinator positions. The uh second item that was um provided with clarity was for the originally was for the 1.0 position um that supported the work of the Latinx resolution and that is a bilingual OPI position. Um and then the third um item that we talked about or we recommended and voted on was for the classified person uh professional development coordinator position. So that's hopefully we provided that clarity last meeting but happy to provide it again uh during this meeting. And um there
033there are are some questions that I'm sure um director Vasadev may have in regards to the 1.0 versus the 2.0 recommendation. Um but if there are not then we will I do just for point of clarity for the board. Um it was my understanding that we're going to follow the only thing I have in front of me is our council's latest recommendation to us to the board of education. That's what we got today and that's what I have in front of me that we were going to present a motion for reconsideration as the superintendent stated and that we were going to vote separately for those three recommendations from last week. That was my understanding and that's how I'm interpreting council's recommendation to us. Would love to hear from my board colleagues to better understand their
034interpretation as well. Yes, I'll be happy to address that. Um we did receive that uh guidance from council and after receiving that guidance from council I spent um an hour and 40 minutes almost two hours uh speaking to council because the guidance that we received was under the impression um the guidance that we received is different after uh review of the meeting. So when we reviewed the meeting, it is important to identify that the action has already been taken. The board has already voted. The action has already been taken. And so um we are not here to take additional action. We are not here to revote. We are just simply here to deal with the amendment. And the amendment identifies the 1.0 versus the recommended 2.0. So, if I can give some further context, um,
035Director Vasude Dev, you brought forth um, a recommendation for the 1.0 bilingual position, which I supported. Um, and the board voted on. That motion passed um, with the board agreeing and moving forward with yes. Um, Associate Superintendent Tobias Espinosa came back and said, "Well, we'll need to change the language on that because it says 1.0, but it needs to be 2.0." Um, what I'm going to ask Samantha to do, what I'm going to ask associate superintendent Tobias Espinosa to do, uh, is to address that so that the community understands why, um, she has made that ask. It is my understanding, um, after my research that the reason why that ask was made is because the bilingual position falls under um, its own specific category um, for an OIE position. And so in looking at documents
036um from the work that was done with the personnel commission, it is under its own category. However, it is also my understanding that there are two positions that fall under that category. The first position, which is what you uh brought forward and I agreed with supports half um district work, half Sylvia Mendes and the second position supports Longfellow Middle School. And so it is my assumption that you move to the 2.0 know to um identify both positions in that category because that's how our seniority list works. But instead of making assumptions, I will give you the opportunity to speak. Thank you. Um so actually there is only one position that is designated as bilingual um and it is the position um that has been referred to as working at Longfellow. Um it's the most recent
037position that was created. We have bilingual preferred positions, but we only have one bilingual required position. Um, and that position is actually not in front of you tonight. Um, it will be coming back on the 21st because that employee um needed to have their hearing held and it was held this morning at 11:00. Um, and we are waiting for the um judge to give us their ruling before we can bring it to the board. So, it will be coming back to you on the 21st. Um, but that is the clarification that I have about bilingual positions. Um, if you want me to, I can clarify what my concerns were um, regarding the position. Yeah. And clarify what your concerns were regarding the position and your recommendation uh, for a 2.0 versus a 1.0. That would
038be great. So, the positions are all technically district-wide. They're not listed in our system as 0.5 here and.5 there or anything of that sort. They're all districtwide. So there's not a position that I can point to that is specifically.5 Sylvia Mendes and specifically.5 district office. So it would need to be um a 1.0. Um I my advice last week was the 2.0 you know um based on the request from the um director Vasadev in regards to a specific position and who is currently in that specific position. So that's why I was advising 2.0 because if we only do 1.0 due to seniority that would not be the outcome. board directors, do you have any questions about that specific explanation? Okay, hearing none. Um, and I just want to make sure because we cannot hear her.
039Does Director Shinowski have any questions about that specific recommendation? No, I don't. [Music] Director Shinaski, do you have any questions about that specific recommendation? No, thank you. Okay. Thank you. All right. So hearing that, um, we've asked already what the guidance is from the the what guidance the staff needs from the board of education to be able to make sure that the vote that we took last Wednesday is the vote that happens and to make sure that we amend whatever language needs to be amended and so that the vote will be um able to to continue. And so, um, what needs to happen now is, uh, director Vasudev, Associate Superintendent Tobias Espinosa explained the rationale for the 2.0. And so, um, you can either, uh, make an amendment to your motion or another board member
040can make an amendment to that part of the motion and you can accept the friendly amendment. Um, but what is your pleasure? I don't one I feel like I'm being put on the spot because what I came here today to do was what is recommended by our council which is to vote on the three items separately. So I'm expressing my unreiness with this vote even though I trust that you had that conversation with council. Unfortunately we did not receive that information in time for this meeting and I do not have that information in writing. So based on the information that I have now, I cannot vote because I do not have that information in writing from council. The information that I have in writing from council is calling us to vote on those three um
041uh classifications that we pulled separately. So I'd love to hear and we haven't heard from the rest of my colleagues. I'm curious what they heard too. So I'd love to give the opportunity to my colleagues to also um state what what they're hearing. Sure, that's completely fine and we'll hear from the rest of the colleagues. But I need everyone to understand that we have already voted. I I need that to be be clear to everyone that we have already voted. So despite the recommendation, which is again a recommendation, right? We have already voted. We are just here to deal with a procedural item. We are not here to change our votes. We are not here to revote. We are not here to change the substance of the votes. We have already voted. And so I
042I just want to make that very clear and I appreciate um Director Vasudev what you're saying, but we have already voted. And so um it has been the request of director Vasude Dev to hear from her our colleagues. And so colleagues, please. I guess I would just say that I I share director Vasuv's confusion. Um cuz I too read the direct read the uh information that was shared with us from legal counsel. And it was my understanding, you know, when we voted last week, it was very late at night. We were all tired. I'm new to this. Um, I guess it was my understanding from the legal guidance that we received that there were some procedural problems with the vote that we took and that we needed to vote separately on each item. That is
043um incorrect. There weren't any uh procedural issues that was done with the vote. Uh, Superintendent Fort Morell, would you like to speak to that? I would definitely like to speak that. So that is correct. There were no procedural issues with the vote. The vote that took place was legal and um in line with what is expected per Brown Act. There was confusion amongst the board and a request for clarification if the vote was simply a vote to uh uh move pull or move the names or the titles list position sorry the positions listed from the list. Um or if it was a vote to both move them and also um take action to resend the notices. And and that's the point of clarification that that I and staff was asking for at this afternoon's meeting.
044Um wanting to be clear that the board did intend to both pull those positions and classifications from the list. One action and then also are in agreement that each of those pulled positions or classifications should be rescended in terms of their uh notices. Can you explain the difference between those two things? Yes. because you you can vote to pull items from a resolution so that the board can have discussion and hear each other out about each of those positions or classifications. Um there are o there are times when a board agrees to pull because a colleague has chosen to do so so that they as a governance team can engage in conversations, hear each other's ideas and viewpoints to then help inform the each director's vote and then the final direction to staff. In the
045case of what happened last week, there was a clear conversation um and agreement, multiple motions to pull titles or positions, sorry, from the list. Um what staff and I were not clear on is if the board was giving us direction to then for each of those pulled be it the after school coordinator positions the PD as well as the um uh OFI position that's now being clarified to then take action to resend those notices um and and maintain those positions in the district for 2526 and and and to be clear that is the action that the board took um and in reviewing our uh last meeting um actually it was director Chang who uh clarified that. But the action that the board took was to pull those names not for discussion, but to pull those
046names to be rescended. That's the action that the board took. Now, if folks were unclear about how they voted um that you maybe that is um well, maybe I shouldn't go there, but the action that was taken was to pull those items pull those uh positions with the purpose of rescending them. Um, and when clarification was asked, clarification was provided. We see Director Shinowski's hand online and also Director Chang who would like to make comments as well. And so, um, go ahead. Okay. Thank you. Director Shinowski, you may go at this time. Can we ensure that we'll be able to hear from her? I'm sorry that you're getting that feedback. Um, yeah, I I just my own recollection. I I was surprised when I learned that we were revoting on these items. Uh my recollection
047matches uh President Brown's of a a vote being taken last week and I thought that this extra vote was just a clarification about the OI position. Um we'll move on to uh Vice President Chang. Yeah. Thank Thank you so much. I understand there's a a certain degree of confusion here and and I was confused myself um oh I'm sorry confused myself in the way that director um Korn and Vasadev have indicated so I guess in terms of being constructive you know in terms of outcomes um I'm trying to consider what are the best ways forward some some folks are asserting that they don't feel ready um I'm wondering if there needs to be some form of motion to consider that, whether or not we are ready, if that's appropriate or not. Um, just so that
048we can uh move through this either tonight because lots of folks have come out here and are expectant of that or hopefully not have to come back again. We'd like to try to I think try to address this tonight if possible. Well, um, to address your question, Vice President Chang, we don't have the cap capacity or the time, uh, to come back again because notices go out tomorrow. So, we need to deal with this item tonight. And so, if there needs to continue to be further discussion, if there needs to be clarification, this is the place to continue to ask questions. This is a place for us to discuss. So, let's continue to do that for as long as it takes until we get it right. I think this makes sense to have a conversation
049to make sure we're all on the same page, at least procedurally. So, I understand at this point that the vote on the coordinators has already happened. The vote on the PD coordinator position has already happened. The vote on the layoffs of all of the other people on the list who are not OPI has also already happened. And the only question before us tonight is whether to remove whether to resend whether to remove any OI positions from the layoff list and if so how many. Is that correct? Yes ma'am that is correct. Um and to answer your question, if so, how many? Um associate superintendent Tobias Espinosa has already provided us uh with the language that is around 2.0. That's the recommendation um that she has given. And so in our last meeting, we left off
050um thinking that we were coming to this special meeting today uh with the understanding of dealing with the amendment around the language from 1.0 to 2.0 No. And anything else outside of that would not be gerine to the vote that has already to the motion and the vote that has already taken place. So to answer your question, yes, you are correct. And just for my confirmation, the members of the public, um the superintendent Ford Mel, were you able to also be on that conversation with council after the original instructions were provided to the board that uh President Brown was on. In terms of that conversation I spoke to council Brown, I was not a part of a conversation that the president had with with general counsel. Um, but your perspective is that a determination was
051made last week. The clarity that I'm seeking was what the board determined last week. I do understand it and was present for a vote that the board took. Again, my understanding was that that vote was to pull a set of positions um or classifications from the list. Um and I was waiting for the board to vote and decide to direct staff to resend those. Um, I also sensed that there was perhaps uneasiness or confusion which I still sense and so wanting to get clarity around both more specifically wanting to get clarity around what are the next steps and what is the board directing us to do with the positions that were pulled. You heard the president say that her understanding and and what she feels like happened at the last meeting was that it was
052both and that you all pulled them and in that pool you rescended. What I need is just clarity. Um, and I was not a so in in the notes that I gave you all was my recommendation of of how we can move towards clarity which was would be to vote on those positions pulled. If the board is clear and in agreement then the decision can still just be that the rescion was also I'm sorry the pooling was also a a direction to resend those positions and there's still the outstanding position um regarding the offi um bilingual. Thank you. I want to recognize uh director Vasu Dev, but I do uh we do need to extend the meeting. So, just to let you know, um our meeting was first supposed to end at 9:00, but we
053um extended public comment, which ultimately um extended our meeting time. And so, now we need to extend the meeting again, and we can only call for um extensions of meetings within 30 minutes. And um we can only call for an extension once. And so, now it is 9:31. And so is there a motion to extend the meeting to 10:31? I'll move to do so. Moved by direct vice president I'm sorry 10:01. Moved by vice president Chang. Is there a second? I'll second. Seconded by director Korn. Um Miss Chavez, can you please call the role? Director Shinowski. Yes. Okay. Dr. Director. Yes. Director Korn. Yes. Vice President Chang. Yes. President Bramman. Yes. Please let the record reflect that Director Shinazki also voted yes. Thank you. Director Basudv. Yeah. I just wanted to follow up on the
054superintendent's comments. It would it's still my understanding that we're voting on those classifications separately and I would recommend that we vote on those classifications separately for absolute clarity. Um, director I'm I'm trying my um I'm trying to make sure that I use um language that helps us all understand um that we're not re voting. What we're doing tonight is dealing with um the item to protect and to save the position, the bilingual um position, and that moves from a 1.0 to a 2.0 based off of the recommendation from our associate superintendent. The bilingual position is not on the agenda. Correct. It is not on the agenda, but what your recommendation was last week was was that. And so what we are dealing with tonight is the recommendation from Associate Superintendent Tobias Espinosa to um change
055the language to a 2.0 for OIE. And so that's what's on the floor for us tonight, which I support um and voted yes for. And I want to make sure that all that we we all understand. The only thing that we're doing tonight is amending the language so that the record reflects that language. I understand that you keep saying that, but I only have and I'll say at 2:47 p.m. today, we received written guidance from council. And in that written guidance, it's clear to me, maybe my colleagues have a different interpretation, but to me as a board director elected by the public, what I got from council today says you're voting separately on those items. I understand that you talked to council, but I have nothing in writing from council clarifying that that's not the
056process. And for me to make a vote in good conscience, I need to have that in writing from council. And I can understand that director VasuDev and that is guy like we we actually want the same thing. Okay. So I just want to make that clear. We want we want the same thing. And so I I don't know how else to to stress and address that. Go ahead. Director, you have your mic unmuted. Would you like to speak or would you not? Vice was an accident. Okay. Vice President Ch. Um, is there a way would it be appropriate um procedurally to actually call council just to confirm this position? Um, and it's not an espersion on President Brown, of course, but just as a procedural. Yeah. And you I I know everyone's an adult here.
057They we understand that for procedural purposes so we don't get hooked up on this one thing. perhaps a call. Yes, because if council has changed the direction from what was provided to the board at 2:47 p.m., we need to know before we make this vote. So, yes, I think that would be very helpful for the board of education and for the public. It's a little unusual. we could call him. Is that And so um let me ask um what we will need to do is in the time that we have we will need to then um recess into close session to be able to do that and then we'll come back for open session. Is there a motion to recess? I'll move to do so. Moved by Vice President Chang. Is there a second? No,
058second. Seconded by director Vasudv. Uh, can you please call the role? Director Shinowski. Director Vasadev. Yes. Director Korn. Abstain. Uh, Vice President Chang. Yes. President Brown. Yes. We will now move to recess. We I'm sure we'll be back very quickly. Thanks. We went into close session to contact um council and council is not available. So, we're back out here. Thank you. All right. So, we're going to pick up where we left off with uh the discussion. I've said a couple of times the task and the item at hand. And so if board directors uh need clarification or have any questions, this is the time to ask. I will just chime in to say that based on um Superintendent Ford Morell's clarification about the difference between pulling and rescending and um my understanding of what happened
059in the vote last week is that the majority of board members did vote not just to pull for discussion but to resend the positions that were voted upon. Um, so I I understand your point of view, President Brown, and agree. I'm not totally sure what we do about the OIE positions. That is that is correct. Uh, Director Shinoski has her hand up. Can you hear me? I don't know if you can hear me. Director Shinoski, before we before you begin, we want to make sure that the mic is turned on so we can hear you. I'm trying. to talk. There you go. It is. Go ahead. Okay. Um, yeah, I agree with Director Korn. Um, and I just feel like there's like a pressure to change the vote and I find that to be problematic.
060So, that was my understanding of the vote um, from last week. Thank you, Director Shinoski. Um, did everyone get a chance to hear what Director Shinowski said? Okay. President Brown, can you clarify what we need to what what is the part that we need to clarify regarding OIE? For the sixth time, the part what we what we need to deal with tonight is the language um around 1.0 versus 2.0 as was recommended by associate superintendent Tobias Espinosa. Director Vice President Chang, you had your hand on the speak button. Yeah, I I understand the um confusion that uh was described here, but I agree with Director Korn that I I think that we had made his decision, but you know, I do have some questions about the OVI position, but I'd like to move forward and
061we literally only have like four or five minutes left. That is correct. Director thinks so. My motion at the last meeting based on my understanding was uh superintendent was one position. But I just want to be clear that we're talking we're not talking about people. I'm not talking about who's doing the work. talking about the ability to serve what we to provide the services for our immigrant families, right? That's what we're trying that's a problem we're trying to solve. Increase capacity to provide services for immigrant families. And so um associate superintendent Hognite or superintendent it based on discussions that we've had since the last board meeting it is my understanding it's important for the community to hear this because Sylvia Mendes parents have come out Latinos and Neil has come out lots of multilingual communities
062that in the structure of OFI moving forward that the that the positions that are providing services to our immigrant families and that serve the Latinx resolution my understanding is that that staffing will be prioritized. Is that correct? That's correct. Okay. And so as it relates to your item, Director Vasidv, it's uh one position based on the recommendation that I the information that I received um at this time knowing that that can change in future meetings. Um, and just for a point of clarity, that language should state 2.0. Is that correct? That's the guidance that you gave, Associate Superintendent Tobias Espinosa. Um, the guidance I gave was 2.0. Yes. Thank you. And so, um, are you offering your own friendly amendment? Would you like for one of us to make the amendment or what is your
063plan? One of you can make one the amendment. Um, if I'm stating it correctly, a friendly amendment uh for 2.0 versus 1.0. That is correct. Amendments need seconds. Was there a second? I'll second so we can move uh quickly. Uh can you please call for the vote? Director Shinoski. Yes. Director, yes. Director Chang, I'm sorry. Vice President Chang, yes. Director Korn, no. And President Brown, yes. Motion carries. The motion carries. Thank you very much. Uh, we have now reached 10:01, which is the end of our meeting, and unfortunately do not have the capacity to receive additional public comments. Luckily though, there aren't any more cards that are green for speakers in person and there aren't any hands that are raised online. Meeting adjourned. Have a good evening everyone. Okay.