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Special Board Meeting - July 29, 2025

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YouTube / ElkGroveUnified
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2025-07-30
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Sacramento County, CA
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14,413 words · about 81 min
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2026-06-20

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001Good evening. I'd like to call this meeting to  order at 6:05 p.m. Uh good evening and welcome to   the Elkrove Unified School District's uh special  board meeting. Live streaming of full in-person   board meetings will be available to the public via  the Zoom platform. Today's meeting is being video   recorded and will be available on the district's  YouTube channel. During special board meetings,   the public may make public comments on items that  are on the agenda. Individuals with comments on   general school district issues may address those  to the at the next regular regularly scheduled   board meeting. For purposes of this special board  meeting, requests for public comment will be   accepted regarding the superintendent search firms  up until the search firm candidate presentations   are concluded. Generally, members of the public  will have will be given three minutes to address  

002the board. If there are 15 or more comments on a  specific item, the board will reduce individual   comment times to two minutes each. If there  are 30 or more comments on a specific item,   the board will reduce individual comments to  one minute each. Individuals may not defer their   time to another individual speaker to increase  their total speaking time. Please be mindful   that district students may be watching. You are  encouraged to address the board and the public in   a respectful manner such that all those observing  from children to adults are made to feel welcome,   safe, and valued. The board shall not permit  any disturbance or willful interruption of   board meetings. Persistent disruption by an  individual or group shall be grounds for the   board president to provide a warning and then to  terminate the individual's privilege of

003addressing   the board. All right, Miss Ballerini, our land  acknowledgement. All right. We acknowledge that   the Elkrove Unified School District administrative  facilities and schools occupy the unseated   territory of the Miwok, the original people of  the skies, land, and waters where we work and   learn. The Miwok have cared for these lands since  time immemorial. They continue to teach their   traditional knowledge that comes from and responds  to the needs of the land and people who share it.   May our daily lives and work, teaching, learning,  leadership, and community engagement support the   evolving vision of the Miwok for their community  and these lands. May we strive to acknowledge   the past for the betterment of our future  generations. May we look to our tribal partners,   the Wilton Rancheria, the descendants of the  original people of this land to assist with the  

004successful education of our community. Thank  you. And Mr. Yang. The pledge of allegiance. Thank you very much. All right. So, let's go over  let's do an overview of what this inter interview   process will entail. Um, so this evening, the  board will listen to presentations by three   applicant superintendent search firms. These  firms submitted written proposals in response   to the Elkrove Unified School District's request  for proposals for a superintendent search firm.   For the benefit of those of you who are viewing  this meeting, please allow me to review the   process that we will be following. Each of the  three applicant superintendent search firms will   have submitted a response to the district's  request for proposal and a presentation. Each   superintendent search firm will have 15 minutes  for their presentation. After their presentation,   15 mil 15 minutes have been allocated

005for  each superintendent search firm to answer   board questions and to provide a one-minute  closing statement. After the three presentations,   there will be a short break. After the break,  the board will pro provide an opportunity for   public comment regarding the superintendent search  firm agenda item. The board will then deliberate   and consider taking action to select one of  the superintendent search firms. Miss Lasser,   would you like to uh walk us through what  the board members have in front of them? I need to do Oh, there we go. Perfect. Good  evening, President Vargas, fellow board trustees,   superintendent Hoffman. All of you today have in  front of you a folder, an Navy blue folder that   looks like this. Inside that folder, you  have a couple of different documents. Um,   on your right side, you have a notes on  presentation.

006You have for each firm,   there'll be three firms like President Vargas  said that will be presenting tonight. So,   you have a notes on presentation for each of those  firms. You have a superintendent search services   packet that has the various questions that some  of you will be asking tonight along with a section   to take notes for clarifying questions and then  a section for the one minute closing statement.   On the left hand side you have a superintendent  search forced ranking sheet. We will use that   at the end of the presentations after public  comment when you have your discussion. We will   use that forced ranking sheet to decide which  search firm will move forward. And with that,   our first firm is here. Are we ready to bring  them in? So, one clarifying piece just to make   sure we're

007on the same page. Um, so as far  as the the questions go, uh, we're thinking   Miss Moore would ask question number one.  Miss Bowwin would ask question number two. I think it was reversed. Oh, did  you reverse them? Miss Bowwin,   you'll ask number one. Miss Moore, you'll  ask number two. Thank you very much. So,   and Mr. Yang, you'll do the closing ask for the  closing statement. Yep. Thank you. Are we ready   to move? Any other questions? Board members,  any questions about the process? Okay, then   I think we're ready. We will bring them in. The  first group is leadership leadership associates. Ready when you are. Excellent. Well, I'll give you let  me give you a quick rundown of the process. I'm   sure that you guys got an email with the uh the  basics, but just in

008case. Um, so welcome. Thank   you very much for your application. We really  appreciate it. We're excited for this process. Um,   so during this interview, you'll be given 15  minutes for a pre for the presentation and then   15 minutes for board members to uh ask questions  and uh during that time, there'll also be a   one-minute closing statement. So, please begin  whenever you're ready. Okay. Well, thank you so   very much and all I need to do is navigate how to  move the slide. I think I just figured it out. So,   thank you again so much for us uh to present  to you. It's quite an opportunity and we   really look forward to working with you on this  most important project. By way of introduction,   my name is Dr. Jackie Horsesh. And um as  all of our partners

009are, I am a former   superintendent. I was superintendent in Union  School District in San Jose. And I will let my   uh colleague Blanca introduce herself. Hello,  Blanca Kavasos. And uh as Jackie said, we're all   former superintendent. and I was superintendent  in Taft Union High School District, which is a   small district in central California, not the  LA one, but central California Oil Country. Good afternoon, trustees. My name is David  Verdugo. I am a senior partner with Leadership   Associates. I've been on the senior partner group  for about the last 11 years. Former superintendent   of Paramont Unified School District in Los  Angeles County. about 17,000 students. Following   my retirement, I became the director of Kulsa, the  California Association of Latino Superintendent,   and also worked in Washington DC for  ALASS as the leadership academy director,   where I mentored and

010coached aspiring  superintendents ac across the nation.   Um, one thing I'd like to mention, however, prior  to the next slide is that um, wanted to stress to   the trustees that leadership associates is the  only silver affiliate uh, search firm business   partner that is recognized by CSBA and we  think that that's important in terms of the   um, association with each other uh, as that as to  how that works. Let me go on to the next slide.   I particularly think this one is uh very unique  and quite special because it displays the support   specialists assigned to the search uh who will  provide exceptional support to um Ludy Avalos to   Lisa to a number of people within the main office.  um comprehensive on call support which is again   unique with leadership associate personalized  written guidelines, templates, sample documents,   checklist,

011brown act assistants as a matter of  fact and each of the ladies that you see on the   left there have been former assist have been  former executive assistants in superintendent   offices um throughout the state. Let me go on if  I may. I know that we're trying to There you go.   um a sampling of some of our regional and  successful searches which really is the title of   in terms of our experience and qualifications. We  have conducted over 750 searches a very long and   proud history of successful searches and these are  some examples. Sacramento Folsam Fairfield Cissoon   as a matter of fact about a year and a half ago or  so. Modesto, the Santa Clara County Office of Ed,   San Francisco, Oakland, Corona, Norco, San  Raone, and others in Southern California as   well. Tustin, Orange Unified, Irvine, 

012um, Berkeley in the Bay Area as well. So, one of the things that we've been doing is  finding out a lot about your district. And of   course, if we were fortunate enough to be given  the search, um we'll do that much more extensively   through our uh focus groups and our surveys  and all of the uh stakeholder input. However,   we do know a lot about your district that  enables us to know what it is that you're   going to be needing in a superintendent. So, you  are definitely an award-winning district. You're   committed to academic excellence and the types of  skills and experiences that you're going to need.   um in a superintendent is somebody who's going to  ensure that all students get a rigorous curriculum   that prepares them for college and career.  Also being able to have experience

013in providing   targeted support students for those students  who um have been marginalized and have some   uh disparities in terms of their academic  performance. You also want to have somebody   who has experience in promoting and fostering  safe learning environments for your students   and one who authentically engages families and  community partners including decision-making   types of activities. Um you are going expected  to have growth of over 8,500 students or more in   the next 5 years. So having somebody that's  got experience implementing bond funded new   construction and modernization will be important  for you. Also, the fact that there are one-time   funding shortfalls expected. You're going to need  somebody who's got experience in securing funds in   order to make up for those types of shortfalls  that are um possibly going to impact students.   And you have very positive relations with

014your  labor partners and you want somebody who is going   to be able to not only maintain those but also be  able to foster those moving forward in the future. So, we're going to be going through this wheel um  and telling you a little bit more about all of the   parts of our process, but I want to start with the  top of the wheel, which says we it starts and ends   with the board. And that's truly we walk side by  side with you throughout this search. Um again,   if we're fortunate enough to receive the search,  one of the first things we're going to do is we're   going to have a collaborative meeting with all  of you. And we call it the initial meeting. And   during that meeting, we outline every single  step of the search. We

015do the timelines. We   find out which stakeholder groups you want us  to have sessions with. You're a large district.   And one of the things that you'll hear moving  forward in our presentation is we will meet   with as many stakeholder groups as you want us  to. We do it both in person, we do it online,   we also have a survey available in a number  of languages. But our fee is one just it's   oneizefits-all. We don't charge you by the day.  We don't charge you by the hour. We do the whole   thing. And hopefully you also had a chance to  see that um the fee that was in your initial   proposal was incorrect. Our fee actually is the  lowest. Um it was the 4250 I believe. So I hope   that you had that uh correction made. Anyway,

016so  we do all of these things. We talk to you about   salary ranges with competitive districts. We walk  with you through your contract language. We get   contract parameters from all of the uh finalists  and we keep you updated with weekly or sometimes   bi-weekly updates just depending on what we're  working on at the time. So on to the next one. So a part a very very important part of the  process is community engagement. And so, as   Jackie said, when we have our initial meeting with  you, one of the questions that we will ask you is,   who are the educational partners that you would  like us to meet with? And those meetings can be   in person and or online depending on how you think  it would be best for that group. Uh some groups   would prefer to

017meet online, some groups would  prefer to meet in person, and we will accommodate   whatever works best to get the most input that we  can from uh your education partners. David and I   are both Spanish-speaking and so um we uh would be  meeting with any of your Spanish-speaking groups   um and be speaking to them in Spanish. Um, we also  have an online survey that we would uh work with   your team, whether it's IT or your executive  assistant or the superintendent's office,   whoever you designate, uh, to be able to put that  out um, send that out through your network so that   any of your parents um, the stu the parents of the  students um, also that that link goes out to them   so that they can respond and that um is is online  survey is available 24/7.

018So if they want to do   it at 1:00 in the morning, they can fill that out  at 1:00 in the morning. And that is in addition   to the the in-person or online uh meetings with  us. What we do is uh we take all of that input,   we create a summary that we share with you and  we use that to draft a position description. So   their input, your input is extremely valuable. It  isn't just we're listening to you and then we're   doing whatever it was that we wanted to do anyway.  It really is that that input really informs both   the position description and then later on the  interview questions that uh we will draft some   interview questions and then you are the ones that  determine what that will be. Again, the position   description that's a draft

019that then you uh edit  uh at that point and and make sure that it is what   you want it to be. But we summarize all of the  input that we receive. We provide that to you   and then that helps you as you look at that  position description to see does that match. Thank you Blanco. This slide really displays  our partners and not consultants. I say that   because we all have a vested interest  in the organization. Uh we are located   invested in California. Uh we are not an  outofstate organization. We are what I'd   like to say is California savvy and yet we've  placed more candidates uh from out of state   than any other firm and we're very proud of  that. So there is a national reach as well   in fact international. We've recently placed  somebody from

020Toronto as a matter of fact. But   uh I did want to mention that twice a month all  of the partners that you see there on that map   uh we all have a mutual zoom call twice a month  to discuss recruitment placement references   positions of each search that's taking place.  So in essence you really have not only Jackie   and Blanca and myself you have this entire team as  it relates to relating to this particular search.   uh two of our search partners happen to be board  members as well and so I know that they can and we   can walk in your shoes as uh board members which  is I think very very important as well. This next   slide I think as I mentioned uh displays a  little bit more specifically our state and   national reach. We've been

021responsible for the  CEOs or the executive director of a number of   those positions and or those organizations that  you see up there. CSBA for example, AXA, Kalsa,   CASA, Kappell, ALAS nationally. I'm a former  governing board member for uh AASA. And so again,   many of these organizations have depended on  us for the search for their next new leader. One of the aspects that makes us unique as a firm  is that not only do we do uh searches but we also   provide executive leadership development.  And so as far as recruitment is concerned,   we are throughout the year working with sitting  superintendent and we're also working with   assistant superintendent, many of them who  want to step into that role. And so that's   another in addition to our 1500 uh subscribers,  we also have contact and we're able to

022actually   uh see them, hear them as they  interact in in these different   uh leadership development series and the  series are uh happen uh throughout the state. Sydney swims. Me too. So, uh, one of  the the questions that you had is, uh,   about the background checks and candidate vetting  that we do and we pre-screen each applicant. We   speak with every single applicant and we ask  them some questions to get an idea of how well   they are meeting that position description, how  well they might be a match for your district.   We also do uh very comprehensive reference  checking on our applications. We ask for three   letters of recommendation, five um five references  and we contact those people but we also go beyond   that because of our reach throughout the state  because of the different leadership series that

023we   do. We have connections with many many districts  and so we get a lot of information that may not   uh come from a reference. It might come from the  county superintendent of of schools. It might come   from somebody else who's worked in that district  who wasn't listed. So we get a lot of what we call   intel or information on candidates that wouldn't  show up uh in doing a Google search for example   um or or just by talking to the references. So we  utilize our networks, our personal connections,   all of the partners that you saw on there and  we also will verify their credential and then   there is now an AB2534 disclosure document  which says this is where they've worked so   that there's a little bit more accountability as  far as evaluation and interview support. You

024as   the board will have access, you will be able to  see every single application. and we don't keep   anything from you. We're working for you. We do  not work for the candidates. We work for you. And   so you'll be able to see all of them. We based  on again that input, that position description,   etc., we will help you develop some evaluation  criteria as far as how you might look at those   candidates as as you're looking um at the  applications. And then we will review those   with you. We will rank them or tier them. I hope  that's not I think we have two minutes. We'll   rank them or tier them. Thank you. And um and then  we'll share that with you and as far as who best   meets that criteria and then we'll facilitate  the interviews,

025provide all the materials,   assist you with salary comparisons in the  area and then provide uh contract assistance. You've seen the search timeline. We're not going  to spend any of our time on that because it's up   to you. Whatever dates work for you, um we  will work around that. So, I'm going to use   the last seconds that we have just to sort of  summarize. Why would you choose us? There's   a lot of other firms out there. Okay. Why us?  Well, I could probably spend an hour on this,   but I'm going to try to truncate my my  comments. First and foremost, we can get   you the highest quality pool of candidates.  We have the subscribers that we talked about.   We blast out the minute that you hire us for your  search to these 1500 sub subscribers. We

026strive   every day to meet the diversity needs of this  district. And last year, 66% of our finalists   were either women or candidates of color. You  heard about our our California and our national   connections. We're partners. We're part of this  company. We have a vested interest in your success   because you'll give us a recommendation and we'll  do another search for one of your neighbors.   You saw from David's presentation how actively  engaged we are with public education. Um 85% or   more of our candidates have stayed in their  position a long time. I know that you value   that. You have a fabulous superintendent who's  leaving you but who's been part of your district   for a long time. Uh and we know how important  that is. And also we are an all-inclusive cost.   There's no hidden fees. We have

027a two-year  guarantee. We'll do the search free if after,   you know, before two years the candidate leaves.  So, I really hope that you'll consider us. We do   believe that we offer a high quality service. So,  do you have any questions for any of us? Thank you   very much for the presentation. Um, so we do have  a couple of set questions and then we'll uh we'll   open it up to board members for um clarifying  questions as well. Um, but Miss Bowwin, you have   our first question. I do. What is your firm's  retention rate for superintendent placed? Can   you provide examples of successful superintendent  placements you have made and what do you see as   a key factor? What do you see as the key factors  that contributed to those successes? Go ahead. No,   go. Okay. So, uh,

028as we mentioned, uh, 85% of  our placements stay for 5 years or more. But,   um, actually, let me see if I can  go back to this very quickly. Um,   it was some of these the comparable districts that  uh, we shared with you. Um these are districts   that we the ones that have an asterisk we have  done their uh search for them previously but   uh some of these candidates for uh for example  uh Folsam Cordova not the current superintendent   they've only been in in place for I think this  they're starting their second year but the   um uh Sarah Kiganian who was at Folsam Cordova  she stayed for I believe it was six or seven years   uh Modesto City. Um Sarah Naguchi there was also  7 years seems to be it was uh uh the magic number  

029uh has been there uh for that amount of time. I  think Corona Norco was like maybe six years and   San Ramon was four years. But uh so there is a a  good history there of um long tenure and I think   part of that is really early on developing that  good relationship with the board and making sure   that that superintendent is another member of the  team and and sees themselves as a critical member   of the team and is constantly ly communicating.  There's constant communication back and forth. Thank you very much. Miss Moore has our second  question. Yes, thank you. How do you ensure   that you are reaching the broadest group of  applicants with a wide variety of viewpoints   and experiences? Specifically, how do you  conduct your search so that your scope of   potential candidates is not

030limited to applicants  with a narrow set of perspectives or experiences? Part of what we had mentioned previously  is the contact with each person who might   be an applicant. We reach out to them and try to  obtain from them um additional information about   their skill set, their experience, personal  and professional as well. What might be some   of those characteristics that you in fact are  looking for and is there a match and fit for   um for uh El Grove Unified School District. So  it is in terms of comprehensiveness a a deep   dive into where are they at, what are they doing,  where have they been. Um we don't have a pool. We   certainly don't have a stable. So it's unique  to the needs here in this particular school   district. Uh that outreach that we have though as 

031I mentioned as a result of the contacts we have   not only statewide but nationally this will be a a  well sought off after district. We would predict,   if I may, and sometimes we do that, to have well  over 45 to 50 applicants. Narrowing that down to   just the finest in tier 1, tier 2, tier three  is really going to be very important for you to   be able to see all those applications as well  and get a stronger sense yourself of what your   needs might be. I'm sorry. Yeah. And I and I'd  like to just add to that. I think two things.   The first thing is we really dive deeply into  the candidates. Um, so we know a lot about them   and their perspectives. But what we really do,  I think most effectively is we know

032about your   district as a result of the stakeholder input. all  the time that we spend here with your community,   with your administrators, with your parents,  we know what you are looking for and what it's   going to take for that next superintendent to  be as successful as your current superintendent   has been. So, because of that, we really  feel that we're able to match what you're   looking for with what we know about  what the candidates can bring for you. Thank you very much board members. And at this  point, um, does anybody have any clarifying   questions? These questions should be related  to something in the presentation or the packet,   uh, or something like that where you think maybe  there's some clarification that could be provided. Miss Moore, uh, I did just I was wondering,  you said you have

033a a two-year guarantee.   If we are not able to find a candidate  for some reason that we're happy with,   what is what happens in that situation? Well,  the two-year guarantee refers to um if you hire   a candidate and if the board who hired that  candidate, the majority is still the majority   on the board. And if you have done regular um goal  setting and evaluations with that superintendent,   if after a year or prior to two years it's not  successful, that person leaves or you ask that   person to leave, we do the search again uh just  for uh basic expenses. An example, if I may,   is Culver City. Culver City superintendent  recently had to move back to Florida as a result   of a family issue. And so I happened to have  done that particular search in Culver

034City in Los   Angeles County. So we did come in and there was no  cost to the to the to the district other than our   um support specialist. I think it was about  $2,000 because of the work that they had done   for that. So we stepped back in. We did it  free of charge and have been able to bring   forward an outstanding superintendent there.  Thank you. Other board members. Yes. Yeah,   I uh just want to say thank you for presentation.  Um uh what is the um source or criteria that you   guys use to um find a pool of candidates  that will uh reflect on um diversity. We are absolutely committed to diversity  to equity. We believe that that's one of   the main um components to a superintendent and  a leadership according and a leader accordingly.   Uh

035we don't have that slide but we do have a  slide that actually goes into detail regarding   the fact that that's some of our core values. We  often call it our why as a matter of fact. So uh   it is an important factor. We take that into  consideration. Much of what we will be dealing   with if of the course is u out as a result of the  position description. What are your stakeholders   and what is this board of education and the  trustees uh asking for and um uh requesting   if you will. It's that person that we are seeking.  We also happen to know and this is going to sound   a little aggressive or assertive. We know who has  baggage and so as a result you know we don't bring   those people forward. Certainly, they're welcome  to

036apply, but during those conversations that we   have with them, we temper that quite a bit. As  a matter of fact, it's interesting. I was at   Chick-fil-A today. What a wonderful environment,  your families, your kids. I I just want to mention   that I was just so impressed with the environment  and the atmosphere and the culture that exists   here. I got a a flavor for that while I was  sitting there with at Chick-fil-A. Pun intended.   Well, yeah. Flavor. Flavor. Yeah. Thank you.  And if I can certainly if I can just add to   that. I have to tell you one of the things that  also attracts uh uh candidates to our firm. Uh   and I just say that because recently on a search  that I was doing, one of the candidates contacted   me because she's a Latina and

037she saw my name. I  don't know her uh but she contacted me and wanted   to speak to me as a Latina and what are some of  the barriers? what are some of the things that   she should be preparing for etc. And so our  the diversity of our firm has been increasing   um and and we were very proud of that and we  continue to seek that out um because as David   said it is and if you look on our website you  will see that it it is part of our core values. Thank you. Other questions? Board members,  I have one clarifying question. So, um,   on your stakeholder engagement process,  we are a very, very large district. Um,   and most of the applications we got, I think only  one or two had uh done a process for

038a district as   large as ours. Um, so obviously stakeholder  engagement is incredibly important to us.   Um we represent three different cities, schools  in three different cities and unincorporated. Um   so would you please expand upon a little bit  what stakeholder engagement might look like   uh or has looked like in the past for you? Okay,  thank you. It begins with a template that we   provide you with samples or examples of the type  of outreach that we have typically utilized or   reached out to stakeholder groups. you add to that  template because you know of course your district   better than anyone else. So that template is kind  of the beginning of the list if you will of the   stakeholders that you'd like us to speak to. U  and if there's a a an affinity group for example   u if

039there's a organization uh that's not listed  on there we add that to the list and then we make   sure of course that we are reaching out. It's  really very important that those stakeholders   realize that you as a board, as trustees are  reaching out to them and requesting their   input. It's really critical. It's more than just  a feel-good type of thing. It's an authentic and   genuine request during that conversation, whether  it's Zoom or personally being here, and we have   actually talked quite a bit about the fact that  we would need to be here for multiple days in   order to capture that voice uh accordingly. But um  my point was going to be is the questions we ask   of them uh what experience do you desire most  in your next superintendent? What experiences   skill set? What strengths

040do you do you require?  But we also ask them what are the strengths in   the district? What's going well? But perhaps more  importantly, what are some of the challenges? That   is all compiled for you folks in a wonderful  road map almost like a WASK accredititation   uh document. That is the executive summary. It's  a wonderful road map where we would provide that   to you along with a free 90-day plan in assistance  with your in conjunction with your superintendent,   your new person, along with in conjunction  with the board. So, those are all steps   towards success if you will, but that outreach  is very, very critical. As Blanca mentioned,   we are both Spanish- speakaking, so we can  certainly um provide that opportunity. We   have the survey in multiple languages. we would  ask you what those languages are that

041you'd like   us to have those surveys in, but it's very  comprehensive. Uh that is really the heart   and soul of uh reaching out and again those  stakeholders appreciating the fact that you've   asked us to speak to the city manager of three  different cities perhaps or the police chief   uh safety being such a concern. Um the DAC group,  I remember speaking to a DAC group of parents,   Spanish speaking primarily. Um, of course I was  lucky in that they fed us so much. But the one   thing that I can recall specifically a little bit  of humor if I may was uh in the end they simply   said Dr. Savis GMO waphovven they just wanted  somebody handsome and and young um the DACA group   that is that was for a large school district and  elementary school district as

042a matter of fact.   So we work uh diligently with those stakeholder  groups and we create that relationship with them.   And I also just want to add that um it's important  for us to meet with your labor groups. So we   always meet with you know the executive board of  of all of your uh labor groups and then we also   meet with the membership of your labor groups. Of  course we meet with your teachers, we meet with   um the parents, we meet with the students. Um,  usually we'll go to, you know, a couple of the   high schools and we spend a day uh meeting with uh  whoever it is that the principles think would be   representative. We don't always want to go to the  government classes. We want to be able to get a   broad spectrum. So,

043we see uh and hear the voices  of those people. I also want to mention because   this is was new since co 19 um since co rather  many many groups uh particularly um those who work   in the district really appreciate the opportunity  to join zooms and it can either be by school or   or their group. We have found since co that that's  in many in many cases their preference. We used to   do, you know, after school meetings a lot. Um, but  people want to get home. They want to take care of   their kids, go to soccer games or whatever it is.  So, um, we find we ask you what the best way to   meet with the people are. Um, so you know, your  superintendent, your administrative assistants,   they know. So, they let us know and then

044they help  schedule that accordingly. And I just want to add   if we find that we need uh more time then we will  add more time. If we need some more resources we   will ask other partners to join us um in gathering  that information if needed. Thank you very much.   Mr. Yang, do you want to close us out? Sure. Of  course. Thanks again for your presentation. At   this time I would like to ask you please provide  a one minute closing statement for us. Thank you. They know I'm long-winded. That's probably not  a good idea. I think there's a reason that we've   done over 750 searches. I think our firm has a  welldeserved reputation. We work hard. We've all   been former superintendent. We know how vital,  how important it is that the superintendent who   leads your district

045has what I'm just going to  characterize as the right stuff, has those skills,   has the experience, has the aptitude and the  attitude to take your district where the board   wants to see it go. We want to work with you  to get that leader who's going to take you to   the next level. You're a great district, but you  all know that the enemy of of great is good. You   want to constantly be improving. We've looked  at your data. You're doing a fabulous job with   a lot of the kids. You have a more work to do  though with all of the kids and that's what   you're going to need in that next superintendent.  Told you I'm long-winded. I think we're worth   taking a really sorry serious look at. Thank  you very much. Appreciate your presentation.   All right,

046board members, we  have a couple minute break,   so please continue taking notes. Uh,  and we will be back in four minutes. And do I have to do Oh, it works,  right? Okay, good. I don't. Oh, no worries. Thank you. All right. Thank you so much for joining  us. Just to give you a really quick rundown,   I'm sure you've gotten this information before,  but just in case. Um so the process we're going   through here is um you'll have 15 minutes for  the presentation and then 15 minutes for board   member questions uh and a one minute closing  statement as part of that. So feel free to   take it away. Thank you very much and pleased  to be here. Um I I sit in this room and think   about all the things you must be thinking  about now

047and I'm sure you've heard from   every firm this is the most important decision  a board makes. Um but it really is true. Um,   and it's a busy time. There's a lot  of work to be done, but it's also a   great opportunity for you and your students.  And I think I've got this right. Okay. So,   I'm going to I'm going to just talk about the  piece that's missing here as you already know,   right? And that's your next leader, the governance  team. It's not the board and the superintendent,   right? It it's the governance team. And leadership  in your district makes a difference. And as all of   you know, so what happens at the dis um if great  things happen at the DAS, great things happen in   your classroom for you and for um your students  and the

048community you serve. Um you've got 68,63 reasons to do great work. And when you look  at your goals and your objectives for your dis   um for your students and those outcomes, um  the reason why I put this up, first of all,   it gives some insight on you and your  priorities. But as we start talking about   um the research process and how we include  your community and education partners,   these aspects will be part of a part of that and  I'll go into that to a little bit in a minute.   Um just like you, we believe every student  is entitled to a high quality education.   um a and as mentioned um high quality  leadership is an important part of that process. So we are a nationwide search firm. I think all  of you know that we did

049the search here I think   10 years ago. Um and one of the reasons why  sustainability is important the average tenure   of a superintendent used to be 3.5 years. Now  it's 2.3 years. Um, that's heartbreaking, right?   Because it takes that sustainability to make good  things happen. A leader cannot change or move a   district forward if they're not here for a long  time. So, we are a nationwide search firm. We have   um 130 consultants across the country. Um, but we  have 25 here in California. Um I I think what's   really critical too is all of the consultants  um have and I'll show you who's going to be on   the team in a second have different networks and  connections um to make sure that when we are doing   a search about putting something in ed joining  Ed Cal

050but it's looking at the criteria that   you develop for your next leader and using that  criteria to really identify what it's all about   right it's about fit because you're going to have  a lot of people that are going to want to be here   and lead this district and there going to be a lot  of candidates that are qualified, but are they the   right fit for you and what you need at this moment  in your district? If you look at the one bullet   point where it talks about authentic stakeholder  and education partner um connection, so a lot of   people talk about um including education partners.  I I think one of the things that makes McFersonson   different is every one of your education partner  groups have a different voice. So a lot of times   people will do

051town hall meetings or online and  they can have value but what where the real value   happens is where you take for example and we have  meetings with each of your bargaining units. We   have meetings with PTA we have meetings with  your ELAC DAC all those groups are education   partners but their voice and how they see and  their challenges in your district and their   opportunities in the district are different. So,  making sure that you help us identify those groups   and us having one-on-one meetings with those  groups to make sure that we're hearing that voice   and and providing that to the board as really  in a different lens that you're going to see and   what your community's concerns are because every  group in your community has different concerns   and priorities and needs. This just gives you  a

052kind of highle overview of us. Um, and I'll   just focus on a couple bullet points. Uh, roughly  about 80% of, um, candidates that are hired with   McFersonson are still in place at 5 years. Um, the  team that's going to be working the search numbers   are better. Mine are at 97%. Um, Nicole's at 95, I  think. Um and and so when you look at our team and   the amount of time we spend in doing searches, we  really are intentional about making sure um we're   not hiring your your next leader, right? That is  the board's job. Our role is to bring you the best   candidates that align to you and your criteria.  The the reason why the 130 consultants is because   even though they won't be working in the search,  they have a network and that expands

053our network.   So all of our team members are members of every  major um superintendent organization or developing   leaders organization. And so that network helps  us identify candidates as well um to help you meet   those needs. And then if you look at the 60% at 10  years and 40% at 15 years are still in place. This   just gives you um I I know that equity is a big  factor to you and um the lead consultant that will   be um part of this search and Nicole has done some  really great work of just giving you a kind of a   highle overview of the diversity of candidates um  that she's able to build um over the 16 searches   that she's done in just in Northern California.  So this is your search team. Um Nicole's got a   great background.

054She worked at AXA. Um really  broad network across multiple fields, but um is   a Northern California consultant. Dr. Dan as well  too as a superintendent and uh so is Dr. Spalding.   Um my background is a little unique. Um I'm a  board member. I was in um Riverside and Alvort   Unified for 21 years as a trustee, roughly 23,000  students, a little smaller than you are. and then   um left that and now serve on the county board.  So roughly 400,000 students in Riverside County.   And the reason why our team is built that way  because there are different lenses and different   networks and different information. We get about  candidates. We learn about superintendent. I get   information when I talk to other board members  than my peers would because we've known each   other. Um same thing with my colleagues

055that are  superintendent. they provide a different lens as   well. And as a board member, um, try to go to the  grocery store for 15 minutes and rush home, right?   How often does that happen? It it doesn't because  you are the most accessible elected officials in   your community. And so your lens and how you see  what's important would be different than the other   leaders. And that's why I keep reinforcing we  don't hire superintendent. That is your role.   Our role is to bring you the best candidates  based on the criteria that you identified. So,   um, we've worked in district and all sizes. I've  I've personally have done districts as small as   125 students up to 71,000. Um, I just did Fresno.  Um, I did Stockton and uh, Santa Barbara that are,   excuse me, San Bernardino. They're roughly 

056the same size as um, your district, a little   bit smaller, but um, roughly the same size. We  have a high degree of stakeholder involvement.   it that is critical because the more information  that the board has in making the decision   um the better outcomes you have. The third  the other piece when I look at the last bullet   point is it's tailored. We do not have a cookie  cutter approach. So, it's really critical that   when we're talking about the process, yes, we're  going to have candidates, you know, go through   the typical interview that is most candidates um  and most interview process that you're probably   familiar with happen, but um we include some  other things like videos. So when we bring to   you and I'll go through the process in a minute,  but um we include videos, we

057include scenarios,   other things so you can see a full round of what  um the candidates have to offer because somebody   can be great in front of a group and answer  questions in an interview process, but may not be   the right fit. It may not connect with a community  and may not be really kind of the leader that you   want. So we'll bring all those things forward so  you can have a multi- view of of what that looks   like. 7 minutes. I reinforce number two. We work  for the board and and that is critical. We don't   have a cadre of candidates that we bring in from  district to district and a smaller district and   then take them to another district and to another  district. We work for you. As the old phrase goes,   we serve at

058the pleasure of the board. And that's  essential because that's the lens that we look   through everything. Um, I'm a board member, so  when I'm sitting and I'm talking to candidates,   I'm thinking the same things that you are, right?  No surprises. Um, I I don't have any stake in   bringing anyone forward except who's going to  be your best fit and who's going to serve you   well and most importantly who's going to serve  the students well in this district. Let me go   through our um phases. Um the typical search takes  between 8 to 12 weeks. And people typically ask,   can we do it faster? We can. I wouldn't recommend  it, especially in a district this size. You   deserve the time, the intention, and the focus to  get the best candidates possible, and to rush it   for a

059month sooner um is I wouldn't recommend  doing that. We we can do what you want, but   I would not recommend rushing the surge date. 12  weeks is just the proper amount of time to um vet   candidates um to recruit candidates um and really  background checks, right? There's a lot of things   out there that again, no surprises. So, let me go  through the the phases real quick. Um we spent a   lot of time in phase one. As you can see, it's  all about the characteristics. Um, identifying   the education partners or the stakeholder groups  that you want us to meet with. Um, and that equity   piece with meeting with education partners is  important because some want to do it in person,   but some people are working and they want to do  it virtually. So we do whatever

060is best for those   groups to make sure that um there's the right  level of participation and there's the right level   of engagement and there's the right ability to  make sure that those voices are all being heard.   So when I say education partners, it could be  your bargain units, um students, um we meet with   um community members, um site administrators,  cabinet, really anyone that you tell us is   important to meet with. We meet one-on-one with  those groups. Those group meetings are usually   about an hour and there's usually between 20  and 30 people in those meetings. Um when we   have those meetings, we give the board a document  that has the feedback from all of those groups. We   recommend that you share that publicly. Um but  it also is a good resource for the board when   you're

061talking about later on the goals for the  um this new superintendent, but it's also a great   thing for your candidates, right? It provides  information for your candidates. Phase two,   um we'll still be interviewing, meeting with  stakeholders. Um, you'll have my my gut is you'll   have probably 40 plus people apply for this job.  Really, it it's a horrible location, right? No one   wants to live here, but you'll probably have 40  people that'll apply for the job. And I I reckon   the men the board have a mindset of the reverse  funnel, right? Bring as many candidates in the   pos process and then take out those that aren't  qualified. We'll take out those that don't meet   your criteria and then we will bring what we call  a short list of roughly 12 candidates that kind   of align well

062to your criteria that align well  to the size of your district and anything you   tell us that's important to you. Right? That would  be what we bring to you. And then from that list,   the board would say here are the candidates  that we want to interview. So when you have   that short list, you'll have background material  on the candidates. You'll have resumeums. We do   videos of those candidates, so you get to see  those candidates do like four or five questions   about whatever you think's important. We'll have  them answer. So, you're getting to see them now.   And we've already done reference checks on those  candidates. So, we've had reference checks and all   that information you'll see before you say these  are the ones we want to move to the next step. And   then in phase four,

063um I mentioned the interview  process. Some boards include a community panel,   which means the board would say, "Here's  the type of people we want to serve on a   community panel. It's not required. Um, but it's  another way for the board to engage the community,   and we facilitate those sessions. It doesn't  extend the session. Um, we do the community   panel interviews the same day the board's  doing their interviews. So candidate A could   be interviewing with the board, candidate B could  be interviewing um with the panel and then they   would switch. So that gives you the ability now to  have and let me say they do not rank, they do not   tell you who they want. They just provide from  their insight who they saw had these strengths,   where were potential areas of opportunity. They  do not

064tell you who they thought you should hire.   And that's essential, right? It's just information  if the board wants them to do that. and it creates it creates less concern if they don't do that  piece. The other piece, it's very confidential.   They don't know who's even being interviewed  until they walk in the room. Um, so we we make   sure that our candidates are protected as well.  I think I can do it. Um, and then the next piece   is just as important, right? It's how do you set  the future for you and the board? So phase five   um is once you select your candidate, we  meet with the board and your new leader   um to help you set what are those goals that  are the two or three things you want your next   leader to focus on

065and we want to support that,  right? Because if you're not aligned on the goals   um and next step for that leader and  how you're going to evaluate that person   um that is all the work we've done on the front  end um doesn't have the best results because   that's how we make sure that we get these 10 11  years. In addition um if your leader leaves for   any reason within 2 years we come back and do the  search at no cost to the district. Um, I'm going   to skip all that because I covered all of this  here. Um, and I'll stop talking now for questions.   Thank you. Thank you very much. We have a couple  of set questions and then we'll open it up to the   board for clarifying questions. Thank you. Uh,  our first question,

066Miss Bowwin. Thank you. What   is your firm's retention rate for superintendent  placed? Can you provide examples of successful   superintendent placements you have made and what  do you see as key factors that contributed to   those successes? Uh yeah, our retention rate um  for 5 years as a organization is 80% 10 years   um 60%. And then 15 years I think it's 40%. I can  pull those up for you but that's roughly what it   is. Mhm. And then you asked what is the reason?  Is that is that part two of the question? Do you   want me to read it again? Just that the second  piece was the reason. Yeah. Can you provide let's   see can you provide examples of of successful  superintendent placements you've made and what do   you see as a key factors that contributed to those 

067successes? I I I think the search we did in Hammet   um the search we did in I can think a lot of  Santa Barbara has been really just watching   that leadership team grow um Fresno um Stockton  Ventur those are probably really good examples and   the factors that I think made it go really well  where the board was focused on taking the time   um to make sure that the search process was  thorough. They had high level of community   engagement and the education partners also  bought in. All of those all of those searches   had community panels and it's not required but it  does make the feel the community feel like they're   part of the process even though it's more work for  our team. the outcome of of the sustainability and   engagement and connectivity um I think led

068to the  success of those searches and that's just a couple   so did I completely answer your question good  enough okay what did I miss okay thank you very   much miss more thank you how do you ensure that  you are reaching the broadest group of applicants   with a wide variety of viewpoints and experiences  is specifically how do you conduct your search   so that your scope of potential candidates is  not limited to applicants with a narrow set of   perspectives or experiences? I I think well I know  we um we have a broad network. We're a nationwide   firm. We have roughly aboutund excuse me we have  roughly about 1,800 people in our database. So   even though we don't move people around, um we  have a large database of potential applicants,   I think the number of consultants that we

069have in  their network. And we identify and target people   once the board identifies that criteria of who  we're going after. And if you look at just the   information that Nicole provided relative to the  diversity, not only of experience and ethnicity   and all those pieces, but all those different  things that are relevant um show you that we   have a really good record of making sure that that  we are um focused on the best candidate, but also   the widest reach and not just a small cohort of of  candidates from a particular school or or network. Excellent. Thank you very much board  members. Um this is your opportunity   for clarifying questions. Um these questions  shouldn't be anything new but related to the   um the presentation or the documents  we've been provided. So any questions? Yes, Miss Albiani. I

070had two quick things. Um wanted to clarify you  were joking that this is a horrible place to live.   Absolutely. It's gorgeous. Okay. Um just don't  want that to go on record being a negative. And   then um you mentioned videos and scenarios. Could  you expand a little on that please? Sure. Yeah,   absolutely. Um so the short the short list the  list that we bring to you those 12 candidates,   we have them do a video. The great thing about the  video is that we give them questions. They can do   the video as many times as they want. We give  copies of that video to the board prior to the   short list discussion. So when you're reviewing  those candidates and let me go back and say when   we have that short list discussion with you,  we'll tell you

071everybody that applied. We'll   tell you why we didn't bring them forward. And  again, it's your search. So if you decide, well,   I know that person, we want to still talk  about them. We'll talk about any candidate.   But the video gives you a chance to see how do  they answer questions and how do they answer   them well on camera and and um it's another  tool for you to make um a decision about. You're welcome. Thank you, Mr. Yang. Yeah, thanks  for the presentation. Thank you. Um, as you know,   our school district has a very diverse uh  students and uh I'm just curious as far as   uh community engagement um what sort of what  sort of um source that you guys use? Well,   um so we have people on our search. Let me So I  showed you

072this the our team, right? that that had   um people that speak English and some of our  colleagues speak Spanish. But if we needed someone   that um you need if you're talking from a language  standpoint, they would be added to the team. We we   recognize that we don't have on our primary team  maybe all the things from a language standpoint,   but we have the resources to add those people  to our team as well. That's the great thing   about having 25 consultants in California and  130 nationwide that um whatever the board says   the board said to us our um Asian population is  28% and we want someone that speaks Mandarin to   talk to this specific group then we make that  happen, right? It just whatever is necessary to   make sure the groups are all feeling their part 

073of the process. You guys do any sort of survey?   Um, thank you for bringing that up. Yeah, we we  do an online survey um that that will do all the   same things that we talked about in person. So,  we have an online survey in any language you want.   um that survey is added to that stakeholder  document that I talked about that includes all   those pieces of not only what group they're they  consider them part of and I mean that by like do   they consider themselves employees are they  community members and we ask those groups the   same question that we ask the in-person groups and  um I I would recommend that the board would keep   that like at least a month um open so people have  enough time to to apply and then we provide that  

074in that document as well. Thank you. Thank you.  Any other questions, board members? One one note.   I'm trying to be quiet in this whole thing, but I  thank you for being here. I did notice in the in   your proposal um page 43, you you speak to a price  match um for the service. I just want can you   clarify um the um how that works? Yeah. Um, well,  that sounded like a TV voice. 955 KO. Um, yes,   if if there's a firm that does a similar search as  we do, um, we we don't want, um, and this is going   to sound hokey, but dollars to prevent us from  doing the work that we all enjoy doing, and we'll   match that price. And our price is all inclusive.  That includes all of our travel. Everything is all  

075in that one price. And all the advertising as  well, and the stakeholder meetings in person. Thank you. All right. Uh I have one followup. Um  so on your team, so you have four members uh on   your team. So would you specify what each of those  members would be doing uh as part of the process?   Um it it would depend on the criteria that you  identified. Well, no, not really. Um Nicole would   be the main point person that would communicate  with your point of contact. Most boards um want   to be included as well. Some boards only want  the president, but most boards that we work with,   all the board members want to be in community  communication. Nicole would be the point person   for that. We'd have different members meeting with  stakeholder groups based on the number

076of groups.   I would say all of us would be doing some of those  stakeholder meetings. And then um on the days of   the interview, if you had a panel or didn't have  a panel would determine on determine who would be   um meeting with the board for the interviews cuz  we would be there for the interview process. Um   my gut would be Nicole would be meeting would be  with the board when the board interview candidates   and then one of us would be meeting with um the  pan the community panel um if you chose to do a   community panel while that was happening as well.  So both those sessions would be facilitated. Um,   and then for the reference checks and  background checks, all of us would be   doing that work. And I didn't mention we our  home

077office does all of the administrative   work. Your staff is busy enough. They don't need  us asking them for things, right? The only thing   we ask them to help us with is on the day of  interviews and meetings just helpful logistics,   but we take care of all that other work ourselves,  too. Excellent. Thank you very much. Thank you.   Any last questions? Yeah. Again, thank you for  your presentation. At this moment, I'd like to   ask you to provide a one minute closing statement  for all of us. Thank you. Thank you. Um well,   thank you for I'm biased. Thank you for the work  you do. Um I I don't think people realize how   challenging these times are for board members that  really truly value this work. And you've heard me   say the superintendency and and this decision  to

078pick someone is an opportunity for you and   we'd like to be part of that opportunity. I think  the the diversity and the uniqueness of our team   um we could do similar work like we did  before to bring you an exceptional leader   and not only bring them to you but help you as  you move them forward and um we look forward to   working with all of you. Thank you. Excellent.  Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Um,   let's see. Board members, we have we have  a couple minutes until our next one. So,   feel free to continue taking notes and uh I  will bring us back again in about 8 minutes. All right, everybody. Let's bring it back for  our third interview. Thank you for joining us,   gentlemen. Uh, we really appreciate it. So, I'm  going

079to give you a really brief rundown of what   we're going to do here. Um, and you probably  already heard this, but bear with me. Um, so   we're going to have the first uh first 15 minutes  uh is for your presentation and then the next 15   minutes is going to be for board questions. Um,  and at the very end of that there'll be one minute   for a closing statement. So feel free to take it  away whenever you're ready. Good evening. I I wish   to thank President Vargas and the members of the  Elkrove Unified School District board for allowing   Education Leadership Service or ELS to present.  We are honored and privileged to stand here before   you as you begin the process of selecting a  new superintendent for the Elkrove Unified   School District. I'd like to start by

080recognizing  Superintendent Chris Hoffman for his many years   of service to public education and to his years  of service at the Elkrove Unified since 2014.   My name is Bob Lee. I'm a consultant for ELS. I  intend to tell you a little bit about the company,   myself and our other cons consultants who will be  joining me on the search. Since we are the third   company presenting, you may hear some duplication  or similarities because of the type of work that   we do, but we will try and note what sets ESL  apart. ELS was founded by experienced educational   leaders committed to helping California  school districts successfully navigate the   changes they face, as well as becoming agents  of change in their own leadership development. You are elected leaders who have the critical  task of selecting the next superintendent for   the

081Elkrove Unified School District. We are here  tonight to meet with you for one of the most   important decisions you have as a school board  member. You represent and advocate for the 62,000   students and the 68 schools in your community.  You also represent you have the responsibility   of representing the 7,000 district employees and  the numerous labor groups. I'd like to tell you   a little bit about the four consultants who will  be representing ELS. Dr. Ron Kuth Dr. Ron Kuth has   served as a superintendent for 16 years in the  Whittier City and the Elorado Union High School   District. He served as the president of AXA state  superintendence council and the executive director   of the California high school coalition. He's  an active member of the Southern and Northern   California city superintendent. He's also one  of the most decorated

082administrators with many   prestigious awards including the 2023 Ferd Kisel  administrator of the year axis highest award.   Bob Lee has served in public education for 38  years in the Mantika, Modesto City, Rockland,   and Fremont Unified School Districts. He's  been a teacher, high school principal,   and assistant superintendent of human resource  for the last for three of the last districts.   He served as the president of State AXA in  2008, the first Asian-American president in   AXA. He received the prestigious Bill Alam award  along with numerous other state awards from AXA.   He's also a member of Kappell and was asked to be  an honorary board member during the inception of   of Kappell because he was the first Asian-American  act of president. Kelly Staley, superintendent   of the Chico Unified School District located in  Northern California from 2007 until her retirement   in

0832025. Chico consists of 21 schools including  seven charters and 12 distinguished schools.   She began her career in the Lodai Unified School  District as a high school principal. She serves   on the superintendent council and chairs the two  2016 superintendent symposium. In addition, she   serves on the California State University Advisory  Board and the Chico Rotary Board. As you can see,   this team along with 16 other consultants are  relevant and stay very closely connected with   our education community. ELS has a very large  footprint in California through their recent work,   their high higher level teaching, their leadership  in statewide associations and their community   service work. These four consultants have a  strong Northern California connection. ELS has not   participated in national searches, but have found  national candidates for California positions.   ELS is connected throughout California with  district leaders committed to

084helping California   school districts successfully navigate the changes  they face as well as to become agents of change   in their own leadership development. ELS stays  current, ELS stays active and ELS stays relevant.   I will let our last team member George Zaraki  introduce himself. Good evening. I think one thing   to note is we all live in this area in Northern  California. So, we're close by. We're relatively   um close to be able to do the work that we need to  do. I was a resident of El Grove for five years in   two different settings. So, I know the Elgroveve  community. I do have fond memories from my   coaching days where we played the Thundering Herd.  Even though we met him both times in the section   final and lost twice to the Thundering Herd, the  last time wasn't such

085a close game. And I remember   uh the player Lance Briggs who went on and played  for the Chicago Bears. So a lot of history.   I understand the community. Um I was to to a  superintendent for 10 years. Uh upon retirement,   I became the small school districts association  executive director for an interim period for   about a year. Um as if you know anything about  small school districts association, 700 of the   school districts in the state of California are  under 2500. So have influence and um connections   with small school districts. Um I also teach in  the doctorate program for uh University of Mass   which is the um produces a lot of doctorates  uh for education and I think I mean it's never   easy to talk about yourself but I think that's  good about me. You got a

086good sense of who I am. Next slide. Don't I? Yeah. This is  my favorite slide because that's you,   right? That that is every district has its  own DNA. Every district's no two districts   are alike. You know your district. And  that's what we're here to do is help   you find your next superintendent because  you know that you know your district best. With our extensive state and national contacts,  our team will recruit from the following network   of potential um uh associations and you can read  them all there yourself. We do have connections at   the University of Massachusetts global doctorate  program as well as the University of Southern   California Rosier School of Education as one  of the deans sits u and works with us. So we   have a number of associations and associations  that we will search for

087your superintendent. What's different about ELS? One, we have a clearer understanding of today's  educational landscape because we're relevant.   We're out there in the field right now as we  speak. We're out there listening. We're out   there teaching. We're out there mentoring.  and we're out there coaching. We're network   and we're connected. We're current.  We're experienced team members with   over 700 years of educational leadership  experience. We have higher educational   connections. We will lead a search tailored to  the needs of your district and community. We   provide firstear coaching and mentoring.  The cost is included in the contract for   the full year. We have a 100% retention  of superintendent placements to date. I'm going to walk you through quickly our  our four-step process. The engagement,   the recruitment, the selection  and support and mentorship. So, the engagement process, the very first

088thing  we'll do if selected would be to sit down with you   as a board to make um decisions of what this  looks like. We will give you some guidance,   but at the end of the day, you ultimately  make those determinations. We would   um then determine who are those stakeholders  that you would like us to engage with. We   know you have a lot of labor partners. Um  this is just some sample of some potential   uh stakeholders that you may want to connect  with. But our goal because we're right here is   we're able to come in and meet with all the  groups that you think is critical for us to   um get the voice of your community as well as  an online survey both in English and Spanish.   We can do other languages if we need to.

089Um, and  to develop this what we call as a superintendent   profile. I think you probably heard other firms  talk about something very similar, but that   superintendent profile becomes essentially  the guiding light. It's the collaborative   superintendent profile will anchor the entire  superintendent search process. So, spading the   ground well with your community, getting people's  voice, getting your board's collective voice. U,   that's the second part of that. Then we develop  um this profile which also provides clarity to   your candidates about what you're looking for in  your next superintendent. We want that person to   know exactly what they're getting into and and  what opportunities um lie here. And then we   help support um you decision- making of finding  that right person. That's where the um questions   will come from. We'll generate questions  based off this um superintendent profile. recruitment

090phase and um like Bob mentioned we we  know we'll know somebody if somebody applies we'll   know them if we also know people that are very  talented that would be wonderful superintendents   and we would tap them on the shoulder we didn't  mention we do part of our 20 consultants we have   a couple board members as well who understands  that board member perspective u which I think   is so critical in this process we do ex um  extensive ref uh reference checks and then   we categorize the candidates. I'm I think we're  a little unique and and they may have changed,   but we we give you every candidate who applied.  So you'll see the application. If we have a 100,   you'll get a 100, but we do categorize those by  highly qualified. That means they closely align to   your

091leadership superintendent profile. qualified  means they could be a superintendent, maybe   they're missing a few things and that will be your  determination if that's uh the person you want to   give an interview and then applied. I think that  speaks for itself. And I think one of the things   that also separates us as part of our our package  is that support and mentorship as Bob mentioned   has worked very well for us because all placements  have been very successful up to this point. as it says at the top, proposed timeline.  Again, at that first workshop with a board,   this is when we would determine um this exact  timeline that you want to follow. But we put   this down as a as a starting place for you with a  hope in this configuration, the new superintendent   to begin December

09225th or whenever Chris decides  he's off on a sunset somewhere on some travels. Here's our fees. 50,000 note four consultants are  part of our package includes advertisement the   bilingual surveys and that first year of coaching.  You can see the payment schedule. Um you can see   also that we will if if your superintendent was  to leave in the first or second year um we it's a   free search. If it's if it's left in the third  year it's reduced down to $35,000. And last,   um, we have a five-year non-solicitation,  meaning we will not tap your your superintendent   on the shoulder to go to another district  unless the board gave permission to do so. I'd like to close by giving you our promise. We  are committed to providing ongoing support to the   new superintendent beyond the search process. 

093This includes mentoring, regular check-ins,   and connecting them with professional networks  and statewide leaders. Our goal is to ensure   the new leader is wellconed, well supported, and  positioned to lead the Yelp Grove Unified School   District with confidence and impact. On behalf  of ELS, we wish to thank board president Michael   Vargas and members of the Elgrove Unified School  Board. It has been our pleasure and honor to have   presented to the fourth largest school district  in California. Thank you for your time and your   service to the students and community of the  Elk Grove Unified School District. Thank you   very much. All right. Now, we are going to  do about 15 minutes of board questions. So,   we have two questions set ahead of time and  then we'll move to uh more freestyle. Um so,   first up is Miss Baldwin.

094Thank you. First  question, what is your firm's retention   rate for superintendent placed? Can you provide  examples of successful superintendent placements   you have made? And what do you see as key  factors that contributed to those successes? I think I mentioned it in the PowerPoint  presentation. We're a firm that's been   around for three years, but we have lots of  experience. In those three years, we have 100%   um success rate. So, in our packet, you'll see  um the references to some of the districts that   we've done searches for. Um you can check  with those references. Um but every district   we've been successful and I really think it's  that coaching networking piece that really has   uh that separates us from maybe the other firms.  I apologize. How many searches did you say you've   done total collectively in those three

095years?  I'm going to say somewhere under 15. Okay,   thank you very much, Miss Moore. Yes, thank  you. How do you ensure that you are reaching the   broadest group of applicants with a wide variety  of viewpoints and experiences? Specifically,   how do you conduct your search so that  your scope of potential candidates is not   limited to applicants with a narrow  set of perspectives or experiences? One of the largest attributes of our firm is that  we have ongoing people in the field as we speak   and that field knowledge is vital and critical to  um helping to provide you with the best candidates   possible. We know that this is not a oneanddone  type of situation that it's an ongoing process.   It's something that is living breathing um  situation where things change and we have to   be able to change

096with them. We have to be able  to help them. We have to have be able to connect   them with people that can provide them with the  information they're seeking or whatever it is. Um   housing market is one thing. Uh growing districts,  loss of enrollment is another situation. These   are all things that are new to people that are  new in this position. So, we try to provide all   those resources so that that person can be as  successful as possible and we'll be there with   them every step of the way. I would just add,  you know, one of the pieces I failed to mention   is student voice. Too often we forget our student  voice. We need to make sure that's incorporated in   this process. Um, our team of consultants, we meet  every two weeks. We talk about

097which candidates   are out there. Um we are really careful to um  eliminate unconscious bias purposely. We do not   um videotape because we believe that could  uh contribute to unconscious biases and the   selection process. Um we are very intentional  to make sure that we have the diversity that's   representative of California when when they do  apply or we who we've tapped on the shoulder.   Thank you very much. All right, board members.  this an opportunity to ask follow-up questions   uh or clarification questions on something that's  been in the presentations or in the application   materials. Any questions? Miss Moore, um I I know  Mr. Vargas asked how many searches you've done. I   was just wondering if there if you happen to have  a list of the of the schools, a comprehensive list   of the schools you've done searches for.

098on the  website it should have that on the ELS website   but I don't think it's part of the packet that  you have proposal we only provided the references   okay thank you there's a list of five in their  packet though other questions board members Mr. Yeah, thanks for the presentation. I just want  to uh see if you guys could elaborate as far as   um providing different languages through  engagement to folks out there for survey   or any other source that uh might need it.  And and I'll have a follow-up question. Yeah,   that's part of our package that's presented.  um it's only in English and Spanish. However,   um we would then sit down with the board and say  we this is our population that we need to be able   to reach and do the online survey. We'd also

099um  lean heavily on staff to help with translation   when we do in person. Some some communities um  want to come together in person and we want to   make sure we're not limiting um just to online  for those communities that don't speak English   as their native language to be able to come and  give their input in their native language. So,   we would leverage all resources and make sure  that we meet the people where they're they need   to be met. And the follow-up question would be  um what type of search and source that you guys   will use to make sure that you guys have a a  will uh diverse candidates uh slash equity. All I can speak to is um we're very intentional  and make sure that we have good diversity and   and and um and and

100being very inclusive in  our process. Um I would just recently I was   part of a process separate from um the ELS but  was we they hired their first African-American   superintendent. So we're always looking for um  diversity and making sure that we can provide   um a strong applicant pool. Our if you ask me  at the end of the day when if we're successful   will be that when we actually paper screen  them down you will have a hard time making a   determination who should be interviewed and then  when we get down to actually the final interviews   um usually somewhere between three and five  depending on board's preference that will   make it even more difficult to find the number  one um and so if we do a good job we should be   able to present you candidates that

101are diverse  and very talented. Thank you. Thank you. Other   questions? All right. Mr. Yang, do you want  to close this out? Sure. Thanks again. Um,   at this point, I would like to ask you to provide  a one minute closing statement for us, please. Bob kind of already gave that one minute. Um, so I  I'll try to um generate something really quickly.   I I think we're a great firm. I I when you really  think about the end of the day, what separates   the firms in my opinion, who can connect with who  because if we can connect and we and we know it's   not a guessing game. I think when you look at  the four consultants that are dedicated to this   search, their proximity to this area and their  connections um they belong to the organizations   but

102they are very active in organizations there  will not be a candidate that we won't know or   somebody won't know them and we'll be able to  provide you a strong candidate pull from that. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. All right  board members that is our last interview. So,   we are going to take a 15minute break.  Uh, please collect your thoughts. Uh,   finish taking any notes you need.  Uh, and we'll be back uh at 8:02. All right, everybody. I'd like to call  this meeting back to order at 8:02. So, before we get to board discussion, uh, as  is our custom, we'll take public comment. Um,   I don't see any. Have we gotten any public  comment? There been any? We have not. Okay.   We have none. Board President. All right. Then  we will close the public comment

103and move to   board discussion. Um all right. So how this is  going to work is everybody should have their   um forced ranking sheet and hopefully has filled  it out or at least knows what their one, two, and   three are at this point. Um so we will go down the  line. um saying what our ranking is of the three   uh applicants. Um Lisa is taking notes of that and  it will appear on the screen. Um and so that will   serve as our starting point. Um if one of the  firms clearly rises to the top um then we could   discussion may be brief. Uh if it looks like it's  a little bit more spread out then we can have more   an in-depth conversation about it. But this will  serve as the starting point for our discussion.   Any

104questions before we start? Okay, Miss Baldwin,  would you like to kick us off and give us your   rankings? Sure. Based on like round one or just  all three at the bottom? Yeah, your your final   all three. So, y sorry, I was paying attention.  I promise. Uh, so I um do you want me to give   you my rankings only or my rankings and my logic  behind how I came to that? Start with rankings.   Okay. Leadership Associates is my first, ELS is  my second, and McFersonson and Jacob is my third. Okay, Miss Moore. Um, thank you. Leadership and  Associates is my first. Um,   Education Leadership Services is my second  and McFersonen and Jacobson is my third.   Thank you, Miss Balerini. Okay, I have  leadership associates is number one. Number two,   McFersonson and Jacobson. And number three,  education

105leadership. Okay, Mr. Jeang. Um, my number one is McFersonen and Jacobson. My   number two is Leadership Associates. And  my number three is ELS. Thank you, Mr. is number one is leadership associates. Number two is  education leadership services and third is uh MJ. Thank you. Uh Miss Albiani, my one and  two are very close. My number one is MJ.   My second is LA and my third is ELS.  Thank you very much. And mine are number   one is ELS, number two is leadership  associates and number three is MJ. All right. Have the totals in there. So we have so leadership  associates was clearly our top choice. Um the and   then McFersonson and education leader services  were tied for a second. Okay. So let's see. So   we've got four. So before we go to It looks like  we

106do have enough. If somebody wanted to make a   motion, we do have enough um to get to a majority  on leadership associates. Um before we do that,   I want to give anybody else who had a different  number one an opportunity to um explain why.   Um and yeah, so let's see. Beth, I think you had  it. Um I felt they were very close. Um I have no   problem going with um leadership associates. Um,  some things that stuck out for me for MJ maybe for   just a feedback personality for them was um how  they spelled out longevity which I liked. I felt   it was um hard not to have their lead person here  that was going to be our person and who I happen   to actually know and have taken classes from. So  um almost have a

107little bit of a different view   on that but I don't. But it it took away that she  wasn't here or it wasn't even mentioned she wasn't   here. Why? So, um that was hard. And I like their  phase five. Um and leadership development. I I   like how LA finds their people through leadership  development. I think that's really cool. So,   um I have no problem with lead with um leadership  associates. I'd support that board. Okay. Mr. I also agree with Miss Albiani, but um some  things that stood out for me for McFersonen   and Jacobson is how um how their foundational  statistics were stronger than all of the other   candidates. They've worked with school districts  that are larger than ours and smaller than ours.   So they have a good grasp good grasp on  candidates that could potentially fit

108a   school district that serves such a large amount  of people and such a diverse number of students. That's all I have. Okay. Uh and then I was the  only person to put uh educational leadership   services as number one. And I will the the one  thing that really kind of jumped out at me and   what became the the tiebreaker between um them  and leadership associates for me because it was   it was very close is they were just so local.  Like they had such a knowledge of the area and   our district and um you know they they had the  superintendent experience um you know but like   they came in talking about our district. they came  in talking about the area and that really kind of   became the tiebreaker for me. So I I would  absolutely support Leadership

109Associates if   somebody wanted to wake make that motion. Um you  know but I thought ELS did a really good job too   and yeah so all right with that unless any other  board member would like to offer any discussion   I will at this point entertain a motion. Yeah.  Um can I make a comment too? Yes, please. I um   I put uh EOS as a second because I felt the  same way even though they're um much newer,   but I I did feel connected with them. uh just the  fact that they are uh locally and they has been   exposed to our school district and I I really  feel that that vibe of uh um you know have that   local vibe local understanding of who we are and  uh all demographics and so forth and that's why I   chose

110them a second their their presentation was  lack of some of the stuff that I really wanted to   Um, but maybe it's because they are new, but uh I  I did really feel them as well. Okay, Miss Moore,   I did just want to say that ELS was um a close  second for me as well because they live close   by and um something that stood out to me as  well from them is that they meet with each   board member and to me it seemed just like a  more personable experience. I think the main   the main drawback for me was just I wanted  to see more um you know because they were   so new I just feel like it's kind of hard to  tell um how successful they are but you know   they did mention that so far

111they have 100%  retention rate um and they did also they were   also the only the only firm that said they will  re-engage in the process if if it's unsuccessful   um and that is a possibility so um that was  something that also stood out to me. Great. You   any other comments? Okay, then I will entertain  a motion. So move the motion but to move our top   voted. Yeah. So um the motion would be to award  the contract to pick one. Whichever one you want. Yes, please pick your number one. That would that  is the idea but exactly what I was going to say   but I just want a clarification before I make  that motion. So I want to make a motion to move   leadership association associates to be our vendor  to search for our next superintendent.

112Okay,   I'll put that. So we need some magic  language. So, I'll put that into. So,   the motion is to authorize the award of RFP  799-2526 Superintendent Search Services to   Leadership Associates. Is there a second?  Second. I'll give it to Miss Ballerini. All   the numbers and all that, too. Nope.  I already said the magic words. Um,   all right. So, we do need to do a roll  call vote. So, starting out with Mr. Jeang. Hi, Okay, Miss Albiani. Hi, Mr. Yang. I Miss  Ballerini. I Miss Moore. Hi. And I am also an   I. Me, too. What? She's not on my list. I  should have known that. Miss Baldwin. Hi.   All right. Wonderful. Motion passes unanimously.  H. All right. Um, Lisa or Karen, am I forgetting   anything? We need anything else or are we good?  You're good. Would

113you like the firm to come back   in? They are waiting. Uh, we can they're more than  welcome to come back in and we can tell them. Um,   go get them. Sure, go for it. But yeah, go go go  for it. And before we do that, we are adjourned   at 8:13 p.m. Your folders and binders here if you  want. We'll take care of them. Yeah. [Applause]   We're totally done with that part. Yeah,  that's great. Enough for me. Got my one. Just keep throwing stuff in here and  then I just grab the same magnets. have to clean this the store tabulation down. There you go. And you know what I sometimes

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