PUHSD Special Board Meeting Novmber 20, 2025

0012.1 call to order. I will call the P Union High School District School Board meeting to order at 400 PM. I'm going to ask for a roll call to determine a quorum. Trusty Annayia >> here. >> Thank you. Trusty Stafford >> here. >> Thank you. Trusty Hall here. Thank you. And Trusty Gia >> here. >> Thank you. And Trusty Compost here. We have established a quorum. 3.1 pledge of allegiance. Please stand and rise. Put your right hand over your heart. Ready? Begin. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. >> Okay. 4.1 revision adoption ordering of agenda for November 2000 November 20th 2025. Do I have a motion? So

002move. >> Uh thank you Trusty Garcia. Do I have a second? >> Thank you Trusty Stafford. Please vote. On being taken. The vote was five in favor, zero opposed. We move on to 5.1, invitation to address the board of trustees on agendaized items. >> Are there any public comments? >> There are no public comments. >> Okay. Thank you. 6.1 uh oral reports evolve weapons detection system overview and demonstration. >> [snorts] >> Good afternoon everyone. >> Good afternoon. >> So my name is Alex. I'm with Evolve Technology the manufacturer and we have from TRL Systems uh who is our channel partner here in Southern California. I believe they do a lot of a lot of work with the district. Um, I have a a slide deck to show you some images and some videos of our

003technology and uh give you some information about the company so you have a better idea of what it does, how it works, the process you might experience using it. Um, the experience you might have during your evaluation and >> can you guys hear me? Okay. >> Yeah. So, we just want to make sure you picked up. >> Got it. And uh just your experiences throughout any uh potential onboarding or when you're on [clears throat] a uh during your term. See these screens. Okay. So, I'm just going to start with a video just to give you a little bit background about the company and how it got started. And please interrupt with any questions or comments in >> [music] >> Inspiration is often a term used to describe the light bulb moment [music] when an idea

004sparks an entrepreneur's mind. But for Vault Technology, our inspiration was born following some of America's darkest moments in recent history. It came in the wake of the Sandy Hook tragedy in December 2012, [music] the 52 mass shootings in the 122 days that followed, and culminated with the Boston Marathon bombing on April [music] 15th, 2013. These horrific events, summed right here in our own backyard of Boston, [music] crystallized the bigger need for technology that could address this growing and evolving [music] epidemic. In 2011 and 2012, we were actively searching for new technology that could transform an industry. We started Evolve with a vision to develop products to prevent these catastrophic headlines. [music] It was time to out innovate the bad guys, to apply technology to help keep people safe [music] in public spaces. Our founding principle

005was balance. Any successful solution had [music] to balance the detection of weapons being used to carry out these incidents while allowing people to [music] continue to live in the pace of life without creating new checkpoints everywhere they went. [music] >> Instead of forcing people to adapt to the needs of security, security [music] needed to adapt to the needs of people. Instead of rigid immobility, we needed mobile flexibility. Instead of alarming on keys or phones, we needed to only catch the gun. Instead of figuring out how to react when a shooter entered the building, [music] we needed to prevent a gun from ever entering the venue. It took us six years to develop and deploy a technology that could meet this need. In 2017, our first product, the Evolve Edge, launched. While it dramatically reduced the

006need for invasive security screening, [music] it wasn't good enough. It had to be faster for people to go through, easier for security operators to use, and better [clears throat] at detecting a growing list of threats. It was a step in the right direction, but we still weren't satisfied. So, we kept innovating, experimenting, learning, and adapting. In September of 2019, [music] we proudly launched Evolve Express. It uses the power of AI to instantly [music] differentiate personal items from threats, making it easy for guards and [music] frictionless for visitors. Since Express has been available, Evolve has screened hundreds of millions of people, helping to keep them safe in schools, [music] workplaces, healthc care facilities, entertainment venues, houses of worship, and many other public places. Hundreds of customers have partnered with the wall to create [clears throat] safer

007zones. Sadly, the US continues to see more mass shootings and gun violence continues to rage. In the first 100 days this year, there have been 146 mass shootings, taking 202 lives, and over 5200 additional lives were [music] lost to gun violence. That's over 50 people a day. These staggering losses show our work is just getting started. [music] 2023 marks our 10-year anniversary as a company and our passion and our commitment have never been stronger. We at Evolve [music] continue to drive forward developing new products, building and deploying our technology, and spreading the word to help create safer zones for [music] more people. We work tirelessly to keep students and educators, doctors and nurses, workers, [music] sports fans, concert museum goers, our neighbors, our friends and loved ones [music] safe and able to enjoy daily life

008without fear. We proudly count Boston as our hometown and are especially honored to know we help protect venues right here in our own community. We are Boston strong. >> All right. So, that's just a little bit about the company. Obviously, they talk about Boston little little too much, but um East Coast company. Uh the equipment's manufactured there. And uh you know on the product that we're going to go over today, which you can just see a visual of what it looks like right here. that was uh introduced to the market in 2019. And you know when we first hit the market, it was more for all the types of venues that were already using screening devices, you know, sports stadiums, theme parks, concert venues, entertainment venues, things like that. And then really probably around 2022,

009that's when started getting into the other segments of the industry. um like you might might have heard in the video, workplace environments, healthcare, schools, not places where you typically have well many places typically don't have uh you know screening devices. So kind of the purpose of Evolve and other other great companies like like we have Cha here as well. Um trying to make the screening off pro process uh much more efficient for people going through the screeners and the staff members who have to do the searching [clears throat] and all that kind of stuff. Um, so a free- flowing screening process and the way we are doing that is by ignoring more of the common every items out there and alerting the best we can on weapons. So most people will not set the system

010off and the ones that do the uh search process is [clears throat] going to be much easier. And I'll show you some demonstration videos of that. Um, not as markety as that one, more more straight to the point. Um, yeah. So, here's just a snapshot of some of our customers. I don't know if some of you have already seen Evolve out in the wild. Um there's quite a few places in SoCal, a lot of the sports stadiums, um other smaller entertainment venues, convention centers as well. But like we we're kind of alluding to um dozens of healthcare sites and our first school which I believe uh some of your team has already gone and seen it was he unified and they they have some of their own videos on their YouTube channel that showcase how

011they approached this. But uh since then just in SoCal maybe about a dozen school districts, some of the charter schools as well and then Northern California about another dozen. So got some local connections if you uh ever want to learn about their experiences. And we'll get into how this data is actually tracked. The system can collect some data. It's a you know an added on feature but uh we'll focus on the detect detection capabilities for now. So let me just pause right here for a second. You see the screener right here and the students are going to be walking through and you're going to notice um this woman right here, she's going to have a tablet and on this tablet there's going to be an image of the individual and on that image you'll see

012a box, a bounty box that will uh tell that person where an item a potential threat might be on that person. And then when they go off to the side for a secondary search, then no one has to guess from head to toe where to conduct that search. Um they could they could target, hey, let me just have this person empty their pocket, take a look in their bag or their ankle or wherever the box is telling them to go to. So um you know, like I say, most people don't alarm on the system. the few that do, the experience is better for the student or the visitor or the family [clears throat] and the uh staff member doesn't have to guess from head to toe where to do their search. The uh targeting searching

013makes it a lot easier for them. There's no really room for human error and bias. Uh less room for any sort of profiling. Actually, let me just show you a quicker So, this is what I'm talking about. You'll see this uh person walk through clean and you'll see him walk through with an actual object as well. >> Evolve tablet seeks to provide a fast, noninvasive threat resolution. With the Evolve Express, it shows who may need a secondary search and highlights where to look using a red box on the person's image. If there are multiple items detected, you'll see more than one box. This process is designed to focus the search and avoid searching someone head to toe. The goal is to resolve alerts quickly and help reduce bias in the process. Pause there for a

014second. Any questions? >> Um, couple of questions actually. Um, visibility. The way that's set up for example in a in a crowded situation, it seems like a student could slip right around the side of that. I'm sure that could be cordoned off to keep it absolutely that way. >> Um, mobility. We can move these pretty [clears throat] much anywhere we want them. Stadium, gym. >> Yes. >> Anywhere. >> Yes. >> Without any major data lines or anything like that? >> No, I'll show you video of it, a demonstration video of it uh and moving as well if you would like. And I was just going to pull up this picture to kind of show show how people do their best to control the environment. they will have, you know, stansions. >> Yeah. >> Just on

015the borders of those towers to, you know, control that uh flow of traffic and funnel those people through that that one area. >> Um, so yeah, reducing entrances and also thinning that entrance is something. >> So, so I don't get too far ahead of you because you're probably going to >> probably ask too purses and backpacks. >> Yes. >> Keys. Does this mean people don't have to empty their pockets anymore to get in? scan effectively for that. >> Yeah. So, we're going to be ignoring most common everyday items. We're not perfect. We're not going to hit on every weapon. We're not going to ignore every common everyday item, but for the majority like like these things. This is I can leave it in my pocket, walk through a system, and uh >> it's going not

016going to such a system off. >> So, so the main thing, backpack, that's our biggest item coming through every morning. So, >> exactly. it's able to scan that and and [clears throat] activate on if there's something in the back there >> almost. It's not as smooth and I'll explain um why. So, um, we're going to be ignoring most items out there, but when it comes to, you know, me just walking through right now, I have these like AirPods, phone, keys, wallet, belt buckle, that stuff is kind of all spread out and separated around my body, and it's um easier to ignore. And I can go more in depth into how the system works through, you know, further through the evaluation process. We can have a demo system here and, you know, show you how run

017through and test the system. Um, when it comes to like sports stadiums or after school events or something, the alarm rate is a lot lower than what you're getting at is when you know daily screening. When a student comes in with a backpack, there's a lot more items in there, a lot more clutter. You can expect the alarm rate to be a lot higher. Um, maybe some of them won't alarm, um, but maybe some of them do. So, one of the common false positives that we see are uh some laptops out there. Most schools do have, you know, a Chromebook that does set the system off. Some don't and that's great and makes the process a lot easier, the screen process. Um, for the ones that do, there are workarounds. I know I can go

018back to that school video. You might catch some glimpses of uh how they do it in the B-roll. Some some schools will have students hold it out, let that box capture the laptop or preferred way is have a those laptops go around the system, place those items on a table and then pick [clears throat] up the laptop on the other side. We do have another product out there though that's not what we're looking at today. It's a it's a bag scanner and that helps um schools scan the bag and the students separately and reduces the false alarm rate. that we can tackle that item another time. Um, but yeah, >> I won't interrupt you anymore. >> No, feel free to. >> Well, I you're probably going to say it. I'll wait. So, >> you probably

019say it. >> Okay. Well, in the interest of time, it's better if I don't ask too much right now. >> No, you're good. I was just going to touch up my comment what he was going to say. [clears throat] >> Mr. Jeff was talking about, you know, the three ring binder, the laptops, metal water models. Yes. >> Um when you got a bunch of kids coming in now, that's going to slow the process because now you got to look inside those bags, right? >> Correct. Yeah. >> That means every kid has almost has a backpack uh that they're coming through. So that means every kid we want to check and make sure. >> Right. >> Yeah. Dur during you know your evaluation process if we like [clears throat] if you do a pilot or a

020demo for sure you would like to test the laptops that your students use. If they do alarm, then we would have to find that workaround because you would not want to keep that binder, keep that laptop in the bags because everyone will alarm and that will defeat the purpose for sure. So having them take it out um is >> so it's kind of like they got to have their stuff out before they walk through what you're >> Yeah. And it's really just usually the laptops and the binders. Um there are some other common false positives like an umbrella can hit set on the system, some eyeglass cases, um like you mentioned some water bottles, but they're less common and uh usually those can all just stay in the bag. It's usually laptops and binders. >>

021So this is really just for metal purposes, right? Like a I mean I don't vape, but I uh do they have plastic vapes? I don't know. >> Pick up a vape. Not unless it is a uh like densely metal one, but typical. >> Okay. >> Yeah, one day hopefully. >> Um just to hit on your other question just to show you how mobile they can be. It's not as as mobile as others, but uh just a quick setup process. Heat. [music] [music] Heat. >> [music] [music] >> Yeah. So, some places they leave these things stationary. They bolt them down even sometimes. Um but yeah, schools and some other our entertainment venues, they'll move the D's in and out every day. Um we provide training for that. Obviously, part of the kind of process of all

022of this, you know, we're here today giving you a brief overview, a high level view of the system and kind of what you can experience on a dayto-day. Um, what we typically do is encourage you to, you know, get one of our demo systems out kind of in a closed environment. So, you can really test it because we have, you know, multiple sensitivities and that depends on how many weapons you might hit, how many false or sorry, how many common items you will ignore. You know, balancing that um risk mitigation versus overwhelming your staff with too many false alarms. So, in addition to that, doing some sort of pilot possibly at one of your um schools or maybe an event just so you get an idea of how it could work in your environment. And

023then uh one of the steps we've kind of already done, John's taking me around and we've done some site surveys at the entrances of some schools. So, we created some graphics to show, hey, these are where the pieces of equipment can be positioned and where the personnel can be as well. Um, so you have a baseline of what the operation could look like and you can tweak it as as you go on. And when it comes to actually, you know, deploying these to schools as you are waiting for, you know, systems to arrive, we do have online resources um that go over everything, you know, for your staff members, how to use a tablet, how to set up the system, do the whole operation. I know that it's more administrative levels as well because there

024is a a portal to this where you can uh I'll just quickly fly through those um slides but this portal is a website that every account has and there's three things to it. You can change settings remotely like you hear about a incident you can increase the sensitivities but there are are some other settings as well. Um there's a lot of data that is automatically connect uh collected through the system like the amount of people coming through the alarm rates and then um when your staff are doing their searches actually at the end of each search they'll tag what they found and so you can generate reports on hey we found this many bladed weapons or this many guns in October or whatnot. So um yeah and the last thing that we just introduced to

025this website is uh the tablet images can now be sent there and so you know someone in your security office will have access to real time images on their phone or their desktop. Before in order to do this customers had to integrate into their VMS or other platforms and like Genitech is is a big one of ours that we uh partner with. So you can still do that but you have this option as well where we don't touch your network at all. Um and then we have all these courses online as you are getting ready to do an installation or deployment at these schools. Once it comes time to do that, you know, we provide inerson training and then we will provide some go live support as well because many school districts have not done

026this before. But what the learning curve uh or there is a learning curve to it and you know these transitions are not easy. So we will be there for go live support the first few days to you know give feedback, answer any questions and and tweak things as you're getting started. Any questions on that or anything else? So you can break down a gun and put it in different spots bag on you. So uh will it pick up stuff like that? you know, when you break down a gun or if it's uh wrapped heavily in something else, is it gonna >> pick that up? >> Yeah. So, we are looking for the components of the firearm. So, like that barrel, that slide, right? >> It's not really just the whole thing because a lot of

027components are not um metallic like the polymer pistol grip or some magazines are plastic as well. So, we will be um targeting those components and if you disassemble it, if you're on the right sensitivity, it it would alarm on that. Yeah. >> So, we're also heavily um we got to rely on our own staff to go through all that stuff, right? You know, scanning it, doing the second search, um you know, then you got to back up a bunch of kids, you know, trying to get into class. So, that creates, you know, a bottleneck. >> Yes. And now these students are going to be late if there's so many students that have got to be checked for stuff that you know a three- ring binder or you know so um where do you think you

028could improve on in in this whole process on this company? >> Yeah, our detection is is very good. Um, but we can always get better. And right now, the situation you're describing is definitely something you would see with a regular like metal detector as most people will alarm. But in this case, and you know, you can hear me talk about it. I'll show you just kind of some B-roll. Since the majority of students are not going to set the system off, we don't typically see a backup and you know the few that do like I was mentioning that targeted search just makes the search a lot quicker and more efficient. >> Couple of questions with that it's a standard width is always saying it can't go any wider than what it is. Um there's two

029widths to it. Uh 32 and 42 in in that interior lane. Um and that is really just the optimal range for our magnetic field to be at to detect reliably. >> Yeah. If we could spread out or across the hallway, that would be phenomenal. >> Okay. The other question, um you may not be able to Well, you might have data on it. The durability. Um how long is this? >> What's the life of? >> Yeah, life expectancy is uh about 7 years. >> 7 years. >> And these can be deployed outside. These can be in torrential rain or a out east in Palm Springs in the heat and the >> wind and desert. Yeah. >> If we get uh if they get defaced or the students can be pretty rough on on facility. So, um

030I I'm they have parts and warranty and all that stuff. >> Yes, we do include a lot of that. I mean, if it's something neg negligible and it was some some sort of vandalism that could have been prevented, then that might not fall under that, but we do have like a break fix warranty over the whole term. >> How is this getting build out? >> How do you guys build this? >> Build. Yeah. What's the price on it? What are we looking at? >> So a single L. So I am with the manufacturer. I don't we don't directly sell them. We sell through our channel partners. But um we do a 4-year term typically. And we've seen places pay for a single unit of these anywhere from maybe 80 to 100k over this four years.

031I'm sorry. >> Like 80 to 100k over the four years. >> Okay. So, is that a four-year term? Are we locked into that four-year term or is it, you know, something it's just not working for us? Is there a service club where we can get out? [clears throat] >> Uh, we we don't entertain any terms of >> So, we're stuck with it [clears throat] for your term. Okay. >> Does that include the software upgrades and everything connected to AI and technology? It includes everything that you wouldn't see any add-ons. So, it would include everything you need to operate it any um of the software updates that we send to the system every few months. That's, you know, to improve our detection and um add new features to the tablet to make searching easier, add new

032features to the portal to make reports look a little bit better. Um and then, yeah, like the warranty and the brake fix service and all that kind of stuff. So, that is all wrapped up into one. Yeah. >> The warranty for the four year for the four years. >> Yes. >> So my colleague asked a question about uh pretty much the warranty. So I would have a question in regards to if there is damage because there are individuals whether students or public community whatever you want to label them as who >> aren't very thrilled and they go on some >> crazy uh >> chaotic move. I don't know how to describe it but they go bonkers, right? and they decide to go after the the unit, then what are we out of luck? We can't

033get a replacement. Do we have to pay another 100k or what are we looking at here? >> You know, it's a rare circumstance. I had not seen it before in a school environment. Um for fortunately, but if that ever did happen, most likely it wouldn't fall into the warranty as that should be a preventable um circumstance. Storing these putting covers over it, that kind of stuff. I haven't heard of >> I don't want to >> No, no, I understand. I just know what type of >> bring the challenge on to anyone, but I have not seen a student um you know, really deliberately try to just vandalize the system. you know, we've heard of or I've seen situations maybe these have been at an entertainment venue where, you know, someone was a little intoxicated and

034they took a bat to it or at a sports stadium, someone was maybe in the same mindset and they tackled the system. But, uh, and we figure a way to and help the customer out with not being a financial burden. >> Okay. Um, the question I have, I don't really know how to ask him. So, I'm going to ask him how it was presented to me years back that you guys could detect what's in our pockets based on the density of the the I guess uh the shape >> like shape, size, composition of the of the metal. That's what it's doing. So, it's uh >> But the way you pitched it, it didn't sound like it. So, that's what I'm trying to figure out. >> Yeah. Um, it's not a visual detection at all. That

035large tower right there is emitting a magnetic field and pieces of metal that go through cause a disturbance and we're measuring that disturbance with the uh the shape, size, densities, compositions, the things you just mentioned. So, >> okay. >> And depending on the sensitivity is how you know sensitive it's going to be to certain items. >> Right. So in in a educational environment, we're not looking just for weapons, right? We're we have to be proactive and look for everything contraband, you know, vapes, whether it's nicotine or wax pens or whatever, vice versa. Nowadays, they hide vapes and standard looking pens, right? Highlighters, stuff like that. So would that be able to detect it? >> We would not. >> Do you guys have like handheld wands that would support a secondary search? >> We recommend using

036handheld wands as second, >> but you guys don't have that problem. We don't provide them now. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I So, I had a couple question in looking at the unit and I saw them breaking it down. Um, >> is there a battery in there or is it Do you need an outlet where it plugs in >> for the system to operate a 110 outlet is required. Okay. >> It's not battery powered at all. The tablets are or they can be wired, but they have batteries in them. And if you didn't have power, we have seen uh certain facilities use like the electric portable uh generators like Jackary or Blue Eddie, but most places will just want that outlet and they'll run on that. >> Okay. And then the other one was so

037it's kind of similar to their question. So if um like here, you know, technology just fails and breaks down and we have a tech team that does what they got to do, but if that fails, what's the like the turnaround time for I mean is there a backup? Is there a backup there? Do we have one in case one doesn't work? Um how does that kind of work out? >> Great question. So a lot of this is uh remotely connected to an AWS cloud and that's how you get the software updates. tablets are connected, the portal, all that kind of stuff. And so if you ever have an issue, the lights will flash red. There will be some error messages on the tablets as well. And you know, the first troubleshooting steps are provided there

038for you. Sometimes it's very uh simple. Maybe towers aren't aligned or something like that. But if none of that works, we do have a 247 tech support team. They uh work weekends. We have a lot of weekend customers, work late nights. So they're always on standby and they can remotely diagnose the system and figure out where the problem is, which part. A lot of times they can just fix it remotely, some sort of software or something or they can walk the operator through how to fix it. If not, then we do have depending on severity level of the system and when you need it up and running next, we can overnight parts, get a technician out there, and we work with our partners as well. They're certified techs and we can get the system back

039up and running. Thank you. >> Um, okay. So, I have a couple of questions because I saw two lanes earlier. So, you have that large tower and you have that thin tower. How much would the two lane system be? And how fast can you send us the product if we ordered, let's just say, five schools worth? >> Yeah. So, the numbers I gave you is for the single lane and you could just add probably another 25% for the dual lane. Um, and the lead time it's about four to five weeks. Thank you. >> Uh, does this have to be covered up or can it work in the rain? >> It can work in the rain >> with no problems. No. >> Yeah, I mean the cords don't have covered by things, but if someone's, you

040know, doesn't have the cord plugged in and they have it just sitting there letting rain get in. That's the only issue. But it's IP67. Um, these are used out in the rain. They're meant to be. Yeah. And I just want to capture this one more time. You said for the cost of 80 to a,000 or $100,000, it comes with everything, the tablets, the towers, the mat, and what else? >> Everything you need that you've seen how to operate the system, and then all the uh stuff behind it that makes it work, the software, the the personnel to support, all that kind of stuff. >> Thank you. Typically you do schools what is it I know they're all different so just a ballpark figure what does one site mean two or three >> great question so

041that's something we'll do on our site surveys which we have have done some um yeah the more you can reduce entrances the better for you financially and just easier for everyone to funnel through and to manage that. Um, so typically people try to get to one, but I don't really see any schools going over two or three entrances. They figure out a way how to reduce that >> because it's not only systems, the personnel for each each site as well. So >> support any covers come with it >> to put over the system? >> Yes, we we provide that as well. >> Just thinking when it's in storage or something. >> Exactly. Yeah. >> Personnel wise, how many do you how many does it require? >> Yeah. So, for like a base, like you went

042out at the beginning when I was talking about like an entertainment venue where you might have less alarms because they're not carrying book bags and things like that. Um, that might just be two people here. Let me uh just flash to this this image again just so you can see. You see on the the left here this gentleman where my mouse is and this gentleman where my mouse is, they're just focused on this right lane right here. There's people for the other side. So, these two people are focused on this lane. This this gentleman on the left, we call them flow control. They're controlling the traffic coming in and really just identifying the person that shows up on the tablet when an alarm happens. So, those green lights flash red, an image pops up, and

043they just identify the person, send them off to the side to do the secondary search, so it's not impeding the general flow of traffic and not causing a back stop. And then the people on the uh secondary search, the threat resolution is what we call it. They will use that box to, you know, do their search efficiently. Um with school environments in in the mornings with the book bags, if they do have a higher alarm rate, you may see, you know, a third person for that lane. So typically two to three people per lane. >> Thank you. We have no more question. >> Okay, I think we're good. >> Thank you for the time questions. >> Yeah, thank you. >> Okay, moving on to 6.2 to CIA USA's open gate technology weapons detection system and

044demonstration. >> Good afternoon. >> Hello. >> Good afternoon. Thank you. >> Give us room. All righty. Um, yeah, good afternoon everyone. I'm Tom McDerman from CHA. It is pronounced CHA. It's an Italian company where we got our start. Um, you know, I'm going to spend as little as time as possible going over the company background, but it's critically important because very different companies. Uh, but I'll jump to a demonstration as quickly as possible. So some many of the questions you asked I'll be able to demonstrate um so I can detect the rate if need be but let's go through a couple things. So, Cha um we're founded uh in Italy. Um we've got eight different companies uh about 150 distributors globally. We're a big global company. Um started in ' 62. Okay. Um the founder

045of the company uh was actually in the textile industry and the the dress manufacturers and others were getting needles in their in their dresses. They wanted to figure out how to get them out from the textile manufacturing. That's actually where we got our start. Uh so we've been at this metal infection for a long time but Cha as a company [clears throat] started in ' 68 and uh funny enough we actually started from there into food processing likely the foods you ate today were protected by us. Okay. And pharmaceuticals as well. Any medications you take were likely protected by us. Okay. People don't realize it but food manufacturing and and pharmaceuticals you have to have metal protection. So we've been at metal detection for a long long time looking for tiny tiny bits of metal.

046So we've got a little background on this. 75 is when we started uh weapons detection, metal detection at at airports. Okay. So that was 50 years ago. All right. So So we're not new to this. And been many many patents since. Um 7982 were some of our first patents. Um we created the cylinder patent um back then. That's what I'm going to show you here. But that was patented many, many years ago. But lots of different types. Um, zone arming, we started back in ' 88. Okay. So, zone arming, when they talk about the bounding box, we actually patent that 37 years ago. So, we've been at this a long, long time. So, we know where the target object is. But there's pros and cons depending on your environment, how to use that, and when

047to use that because of assumptions people make. Okay. But we've been at this. Um, Secret, same year, Secret Service started using our equipment. So, Secret Service only uses our technology. We have lots of different technology they use from liquid bomb, butter bomb, shoe bomb detection uh that they use, but they carry our equipment and they have carried our equipment since 1988. Right. Our background really in metal detection and walkthrough metal detectors um is airports and uh dignitaries in the facilities around the world. Literally securing posts and presidents. our first 30 years of existence in in weapons detection. We're really taking terrorism these facilities. We secure the White House um and have ever since there's more patents that we've been doing. Elliptical um lots of patents. You know, we started that in the theme park business,

048NFL, Major League Baseball. People don't realize that there's a reason for the elliptical is so you can see through the crowds. We're first and foremost focused on security. It's important to be able to see through a crowd. That's why they're developed like that. Okay? Because if you had to use panels, you wouldn't be able to see through the crowd as a security professional. Uh that's important to do. Lots of different patents. UN has been using since 2002 for ground search for IEDs in war torn countries. Um after 9/11, all North American airports and European airports only use CHA walkthrough detectors for metal detection. Um what else? Shoe bomb detection. Uh IEDs war torn countries. loss prevention, Amazon, Apple. So you look at, for example, a vape. Okay, you can't walk out of an Apple facility,

049Samsung, Amazon facility will find a single AirPod walking out the door. Okay, so lots of different things we could find. Uh we do uh gamma radiation, explosive detection. The Secret Service carries a detector like this. Okay, so lots of different things we can detect. Again, food processing, liquid bomb detection, shoe bomb detection, letter bomb detection, massive cargo containers at airports. we can screen we do around the world. Lots of different things. The open gate which I'm going to show you came out in 2011. Um but the Janice actually being installed in Vegas this week. Um that's combining many different technologies there. By the way, we screen a billion people a year at US airports alone. >> Wow. >> Okay. The wall is about two mill. They said about two billion now. We do a billion

050a year every year at US airports alone and have since 911. So a little background on that. The Janice just came out. Uh the GS is what you'll start to see at airports. Um again, we're installing it at Vegas and uh Christy Gnome from Homeland Security is going to be announcing it this week. So we're installing that at Vegas. It combines a number of technologies into one. So it's getting rid of that lidos that does this and integrating our metal detection into one and uh lots of other technologies I can't talk about. Um but uh that's actually being installed at John Wayne Airport as well and Philly airport as well as as tests for the US. that's used all over the Pacific region right now. Uh but we secure 95% of the airports travel the

051world. We have for many years, long before 911. Uh biggest stadiums in the world, biggest leagues in the world. Um we've owned that that crack all federal prisons only protected by CHA. Um school security we've been doing for 25 years. Uh New York City and NYPD we've worked with for more than 25 years, right? Um they started uh testing our opening aids three years ago. They want to switch over cuz they wanted to change their security posture. So they admittedly kind of look like prisons. That's an elementary school by the way. >> Okay. But if you want to catch those small knives, by the way, and I can show you we can detect those small knives as small as you want. I can make it alert on your zipper if need be, you need to

052go to an X-ray. Reason being, how many how big is your biggest high school here? How many students? >> 2600. Okay. The problem people think that if they use a good metal detector, they can search bags. If you want to search every bag, the problem with searching bags, we'll talk about by the way. So, the conversation shouldn't be about what doesn't it alert on. The conversation should be what's the smallest threat item you want to keep out of your schools. That's where it should start. This is about security. What's the smallest threat item you want to keep out? Then we will tell you, okay, there's a trade-off to that. Okay, you are going to alert on these things. Okay, so NYPD, they want to keep out the smallest blades. And I can show you some

053tiny blades they want to keep out. Okay, and they do. The only way to do that, right, is high security, a very good metal detector, and everything goes goes through your X-ray. Reason being 2,600 kids, that's 2,600 bags, you guys. Oh, no. It's not 2600 bags. Kids carry two, three bags, a purse, musical instruments, athletic gear. Okay, you're at 6,7,000 bags. What's the entry time for your school? Half hour, 45 minutes. Okay, >> good luck searching that many bags. Okay, but we've learned over the years, it's unrealistic. That's why people like NYPD, the TSA use X-rays because human error. Okay, so always think about what's the smallest item you want to detect. Okay, that's where the conversation should start. And then with that, what's the trade-off? Okay, the reason stadiums and others have gone to

054weapons detection, first of all, we don't call it false alarms and security background. It's a nuisance alarm. Okay. So, what this is all about is reducing the nuisance alarms because I want to focus on real threats, not nuisance alarms. We got around keys, belt buckles, coins 13 years ago, roughly, okay, back in 2012, we were able to discriminate those items. Our security professionals asked us for more. It's not about the the consumer experience. What it's about is if you've got 80,000 people waiting to get in your stadium, okay, and they're backed up. Well, that's a shooting gallery. Why? If you're going to shoot people out, why wait to get inside? You just do a driveby. >> So, that's what this is about. This is about how do I get people from an unsecure environment into

055a secure environment as quickly as possible. >> And you do that by reducing the nuisance alarm. Okay? So, that's what this is about. Okay? But it's not magic. Okay? What this is about, it's about the metal signature. And the reason depending on the sensitivity level you determine for your threat, okay, is some items have similar metal signatures as other personal items. So people don't realize the barrel of a gun contains iron. Okay? It's hardened steel to hold up to that explosion. So first of all, any gun we consider weapons in this context a mass casualty threat. Okay? So, a gun that can sustain a magazine club more than a single shot. If you're looking for a single shot, then you need to go to metal detachment. Okay? So, we're talking really guns with a magazine

056clip. Because of that, they have to have a fair amount of iron and hardened steel to hold up to that consistent explosion. Okay? So, that's how we're able to determine that kind of weapon versus another weapon. There's other weapons, mass casualty threats though, that have iron. Okay? Like a knife. Okay? if anyone has been in the military, but there's certain knives that have iron as well and hardened steel. Okay? So, we'll keep those out as well. Okay? But it depends on the threat. So, if you're looking for a full size gun or a compact or subcompact, those guns, those barrels are this big. Okay? So, now that is why you start to alert on things like Chromebooks. It's about the iron. It isn't about the shape. It's how much iron is in that frame of

057that laptop or that Chromebook. Okay, we got around three room binders though, things like that. There's not as much iron, okay, in those. But that's again depending on the threat item you want to detect. Okay, so for example, if you're just looking for a fullsize gun, the only item we're concerned about kids have to take out of their their backpack would be the chromebook. And I can show you, actually, I'll show you on the screen what that looks like to the detector and how much iron it has in it. You'd be surprised. It's a lot, right? But all starts with what he wanted to tell. All right. Um, so real quick, so the OPA was developed for that reason. Number one, what we call throughput. It's to move traffic, reduce an induc rate. These are

058incredibly portable. What our customers asked us for is throughput number one. Portability was number two. Okay. So when you talk about how many you need, by the way, the calculation for how many detectives you would need at a school isn't about entry. It's about how many kids can I get to class. Okay? So roughly you should be able to screen looking for a compact or subcompact gun about 300 students every 15 minutes through a single lane. That's your math. It's not about entrances. It's how do we get to class? Okay. So I'm going to set this up. Incredibly portable. No wires. Okay. This is 60 years of engineering by the way and the reason by the way you don't want to go further than too far. CHA by the way is the only manufacturer that's

059regulated tested by third party lab for human exposure. So you can go through with pacemakers, coar implants, insulin pumps, completely safe. Okay, only manufacturer that's true of if we went further. Okay, we could detect it but it would be unsafe. Okay, we screen a billion people a year, US alone, airports, we want people to be safe. That matters. So that's why it's limited depending on the threat item you're looking for. Again, is that distance is limited based on the threat item. Okay, so in less than a minute, these will be ready to go. Okay, no tablet needed, no wires needed. Literally take these in the middle of the field, you have charge batteries, less than a minute, these will be ready to go in just a second here. What I usually start with is this.

060It should be set for a fulls size handgun. And what we use. Okay. So that's set. That's all you need. No network needed. No mobile app. I'm going to show you the mobile app, but you don't need it. That's only if you're changing settings. So right now, this is set for a fulls size handgun if that's what you're setting it for. And basically that's a mass casual threat. Think about what an SRO maybe no guns by the way. What are you carrying? Block 17 19 Springfield. >> Springfield. Okay. So think about a full size handgun is what a police officer typically carries. Okay. Pretty big gun. Okay. So that's what it's set for right now. Ch uses only international standards. So right now it's set for a full size handgun. The Department of Justice is

061defined. Not CH. Department of Justice is defined. On that setting, the only item kids would have to take out of their bag would be the Chromebook. School related item. Okay. Kids walk through with all kinds of stuff. Not school. One would be a massage gun. You know those hammers, those massage massage? I mean, it's going to alert on that. There's a lot of iron in that. So, school related item things kids would have to take out just the Chromebook on the set. I've got three cell phones here, big old water bottle, lots of metal in my bag. I've got all kinds of cables, connectors. The reason all this can go through, and the reason we call it a weapons detector, not a metal detector on this setting, by the way, so I can set it

062to metal detector, because none of these items have enough iron in it to be considered a mass casualty threat. So that's why it doesn't alarm. Okay, does that make sense? >> Soon as I put a gun in there that has iron in it, not all guns do, by the way, a measure measurable amount of iron. A single shot because it doesn't have to hold up to an explosion doesn't have any measurable amount of iron. Okay? So, that's why we're looking for a mass casualty threat. I put this in my bag. Doesn't matter how I put it in my bag, where I put in my bag. That could be on the floor. It doesn't matter. It's going to learn. Okay? Okay. But it's alerting based on the metal signature. Okay. I take that out of my

063bag. It's not magic. Okay. It's not going to look. Okay. Pretty straightforward. Okay. But it all depends on what you want to attack. Right now, again, it's not alerting on my cell phones. Okay. It's not alerting right now on this small knife. Okay. And this is utility blade. This is all plastic except for this blade and this harness. Okay, it's not missing this. It's not set to detect it. Okay, you decide what you want to detect. I want to set to detect this. A lot of schools do random screening much like using a K9 or something. We'll just pick a random classroom. You want to do random search. California, it's a little different. But I can change the setting real quickly. And you only need the mobile app to change settings. Very use and ch

064only use international standards. These are all classified by the way except for the DOJ setting I'm using. Uh but that's for an AK-47. I could use it for an AR-15. Why would you have those settings? Some governments at their airports, they want to push the perimeter out so that someone has a roller bag. You get a roller bag through, but I'll find that AK-47. I'll find that AR-15. So, different settings. These are all classified from different federal bodies. I'm going to go to a homeland security standard. Okay, this is for any gun commercially manufactured. Okay, so basically I'm turning into a metal detector right now. Okay, again, depends on the threat item you want to be able to detect. So, some are doing random searches, setting this up in the classroom. Just take seconds to

065change, less than 20 seconds to change this. Few seconds to be done. But now I won't even get through with a cell phone. Okay. So, you want kids to go through now. Okay. Oh, I got my cell phone. Oh, what else you got, Tom? Oh, I got another cell phone. Okay. And by the way, this works in either direction. Okay. What else you got? Okay. Okay. Right now I'm clear. Okay. But you want to catch the vape. So right now it's not going off on my watch. Bump this up just a little bit. So macro settings for weapons categories. Then you can tweak it ever so slightly. Okay. Okay. The kid said, "I have nothing on me." That's when you go to the handheld. So Chay, we have about 10 diff still 10 different walkthroughs

066in our line. We have about 10 different handhelds in our line. The student says, "No, I got nothing on me." We have lots of different handhelds. This one has what we call progress progressive alarming. You guys use handhelds in any of your schools? You probably use a Garrett that blocks. >> Okay, they're good metal detectors, but they're not advanced. Okay, this has progressive alarming. The closer I get to an object, it's going to make more noise. Okay. Also, when I'm on top of an object, it's called pinpoint alarming. So, know when I'm on top of that object. Okay. What that allows you to do is easily find that vape. You can't hide a vape from me. A lot of people your kid might say, "I told my that's my bra that you're hitting up. It's

067loading on my bra." The bra would make a consistent tone across that bra, but something else was in there. Okay, you get a different sound. Same in the crotch. Doesn't matter where that is, it's going to make a different tone. Okay? You can find it, you can isolate. Okay. Much more advanced. >> So, you're saying if we invested, it would be wise to invest in the wand as well. >> Uh, separate product. >> Yeah. But it would be wise to invest >> 360 bucks recommended. Now, for screening, for procedures and staff, what we train, what you want to do is have people go through. Okay. Again, right now it's going off my watch. Okay. By the way, take it off. See if I'm clear. Still going. Get that vape out. Okay, now I'm clear. Okay,

068it's right on the edge. Something's learning my metal credit cards. Okay, so you can make it as sensitive you want. Okay, and I still have room to go on this. Okay, so super sensitive. Um, >> so if you have a a surgical procedure and some metal object to support your body, it'll it'll indicate on that. >> Yeah, we don't indicate on this one, although we patented that. There's a reason we took it off this detector. Okay. What we experience in public environments, NFL, Major League Baseball, we think those are security professionals that wear their security jackets and stuff. Often times they're hired at 10, 12 bucks an hour. They're not security professionals, okay? They're not. and they're human and they make mistakes. The most common one we saw, okay, and we work with these firms

069around the world that do testing, it's called red team testing, higher security firm. They talk to the head of security at the state and say, "We're coming at 2:00 today. We're going to try and penetration test, send a red team to see if we can get through." 90% of the time that's happened. Someone walks through, okay, our detector, and this happens at the airport, so you don't know it lights up in this case. And I'll show you again on the slide. In this case, it would light up here because it's at my waist. Okay? And down the middle, alert on both sides because I'm going down the middle with this here. Does that make sense? What's the assumption? All I have to do is lift my shirt and they see a belt pole, they go,

070"Oh, you're good." 90% of the time they wave you through it. Okay? Because it's an assumption. They're trying to get you in on time to the game. They're human and they just want to move you along. So, we purposely took it off this detector, okay? Even though we patented that 37 years ago, what we found because the alarm rate on this is only 1 to 2% in the game. Okay? So, lowest alarm rate by far by anyone. Only 1 to 2% alarm. Okay? With kids, by the way, even on the highest setting with training, we're seeing about a 7% alarm rate in our schools. So, out of a 100 kids, seven would be pulled aside. Okay? It's pretty low alarm rate for carrying all that stuff. Okay, so that's your math right there. Okay, but

071that's been our experience. That's why we took the lights off this because what you want to do is if someone alarms, you do want to pull them aside and check them thoroughly and don't make any assumptions. Okay, that's better security. So, it is important to get people in on time. I don't care if it's a stadium or school, but if security if anything less than that and checking somebody thoroughly, we call it security theater. You're kidding yourself. You need to check people thoroughly. Take your time. Do this right or don't do it at all. >> Okay? Is what we believe. >> We're not interested in selling your equipment if you're not going to take this seriously. And we're not we don't need to be selling this to schools. We don't want to be selling this

072to schools, but if you're going to do it, do it right. I I've seen the uh a demonstration prior too. Can you demonstrate to my colleagues uh the battery pack? >> Sure. So you have an option. Most go with the battery option because it gives the most flexibility and portability. Um we originally since first came out we use Milwaukee batteries but it was consumer product. We had saw a lot of failures in the field. So we manufacture our own battery. We have for years. We thought we'd get out of the battery business. We got sucked back in. Um, but they run on right now it runs on uh one in each tower it runs on and as those fail it fails over to the other batteries that would be in here. They're in the box

073who left them in the air. Um, but it's about 6 and 12 7 hours of run time on a battery. So what would happen? Six, seven hours on this. It would fail over to that one. Okay. So you get another, you know, seven six seven hours on it. Okay. The main draws power faster. So what would happen if I'm in the middle of a field, I need to keep running, then I grab one out of this and move it over because this barely uses any batteries. So I get about 20 hours of run time on four fully charged batteries. >> Wow. >> So literally the middle of the field. Now if you um are near a charger, you can just keep cycling. So you can run it 24 hours, but also you have an option

074to plug it in, right? So when you purchase them, you get either you elect on each detector, you get four batteries and a charger or do you want power adapters and then if you chose one, you could always purchase the other accessories. Most go with the batteries. >> Can we talk price now? Uh I I want to know individual batteries on top of the four that you talked about and then the units as well. >> The batteries are like I'm not sales guy, but like 200 bucks a battery. And the whole unit >> uh 187 and you own it from a subscription 18,700 and you own it. >> And that's the pair. >> That's the pair. This is one detector >> and then we just pay for like a servicing or whatever if there's anything.

075>> I mean warranty you're covered on any service. For example, if you did have something someone cracked it, broke it. I ship you one overnight. Availability, by the way, we have them available. PO I ship in two days. No agreement, no service. >> Wait, there's no moving parts. Okay, have the door on it. It's the only moving part for the battery. There's no m 65 years of engineering built in this. There's no maintenance. No maintenance contract. There's no maintenance needed. Support's free 24/7 365. You pay for it, you own it. >> And what's the lifespan as well of the units? >> So, we have some at our facilities in Italy. It's sitting outside for more than 30 years. Still operable. We have one sitting in our office in Ohio that uh was in the World

076Trade Center when it went down and still operates. >> They hold up pretty well. Now, from a technology standpoint, we usually do a refresh every seven or eight years on tech, but TSA's been using some for, you know, since, you know, 2002. Okay? So, they're out there. New York City Schools, NYPD have some still in existence. They've been using for 25 years. So, they last because it's just reason being is no moving parts or microchips. Okay? >> So, And by the way, one thing I didn't add, we've been at this so long. We're, by the way, the only manufacturer, pretty much only manufacturer in the world that we actually we make everything, right? We don't outsource it. Not only that, we make the machines that make the machine, okay? Because no one can do what

077we do. >> Uh, you were talking about introducing a new product, Janice, about how much does that run and does it have the same? >> That's very different animal. That's a half billion dollar product. No, thank you. [laughter] >> We're not ready. >> What's your uh do you have like a recommended uh setting for schools that will >> Well, we tell you about pros and cons, but we don't recommend because at the end of the day, this is your environment. Typically, what we do, we'll ask you, so in training, I would ask you, you know, first of all, have you confiscated any guns in the last couple years? Number one, have you >> BB gun? >> Okay. So not a a you know threat item really to for someone's life. >> Yes. You have. Yes.

078>> And so then the question would be is that a full size or compact or subcompact? >> It was a compact. >> Okay. So we're seeing a lot more of those and I could share some numbers with you. But then let's say you hadn't. Okay. What I would then do is ask local law enforcement because unless you're doing a threat assessment, your threat assessment would be based on what have you found. Okay. Since you haven't found any, I would ask local law enforcement when they arrest somebody. I don't care if it's for speeding, fighting, shoplifting, I don't care what it's for, and they confiscate a gun, what is it? These days, we're seeing a lot more complex and subcompact. By the way, that's why the NFL, Major League Baseball, this standard, by the way, was

079a standard for all those Republicans for many, many years. DOJ standard for a full size handgun. That's now changed over the last few years. Everyone's now the standards changing to compacts and subcompacts. And here's why. When Coline happened 26 years ago now, okay, we manufacture about 4.7 million guns a year. Okay? We now manufacture 20 million guns a year. A year. By the way, we give birth to about 4 million kids a year. We give birth to five times as many guns. That's number one. The change though is back then Vermont was the only state you concealed carry it and needed a permit. Now the majority of states you concealed carry you don't need a permit. So the guns being manufactured are these compacts and subcompacts that people can carry on their person in their

080purse and they're all over. People don't see it in the news but 5year-olds, seven year olds, 10 year olds are bringing guns to school because they're lying around the house because the other statistic is only about six 60% of people don't lock up their guns. That's why kids are bringing them to school, okay? Because we're not locking them up and they're all over, okay? Because people want them handy in case something's fear and they want them handy in case something happens. Okay? That's a problem. So these guns are smaller and smaller. So although we don't make that recommendation, look at the numbers. That's what people bring. And I'm sure that's what you're seeing in complex and sub complex. That's what people are carrying. So it does mean that. So for those of you who don't

081know guns, so again a full size what an officer would typically carry on service. Okay, he's probably got a compact on them as well. Okay, but a big gun. But that's a lot of metal. Okay, these smaller guns are all plastic now. Okay, but the barrel on some of an LCP Ruger is this big. Okay, and a 380 barrel it's very narrow. So what we have to hit on that target is small. No big deal. Again, you can see I could set this for anything, but it does mean it's going to hit on some more personal items. Okay, as an example, let me show you a simple example. So, I'll put this on the sub compact setting, glasses on. Okay, so I'm going to put this on the sub compact setting, but I'll show you

082what's actually going on in the detector. So you can see what the signal looks like. A few more seconds so you can see what it looks like for a gun. Then I'll show you what it looks like with an eyeglass case because it has a lot of iron in it. Okay. So I walk through. Okay. That bottom line is no metals going through. So it's not getting any reading on that bottom line. That top line is the threshold. So if an amount of iron hard steel goes through there over that, it should lure. And that's what you're seeing there. Okay, that's signal. Look what an eyeglass case looks like. Because the amount of iron in this, it's not magic. It's just that's what's in there. Okay. So when we say weapons infection, there's a lot

083of marketing out there that makes it m it's not magic. We're looking for stuff with iron and hardened steel. Surprisingly hard eyeglasses. Now with kids though, it's pretty easy to get around with schools. Ask mom or dad to get you cloth case for school. Okay, not every kid has eyeglasses. Ask mom or dad to get you cloth one. So we solve that problem pretty easily. So really we just worried about the Chromebook, right? So there's ways to mitigate those things. Okay, but the first thing is what do you want to detect? Okay, and because we see more complex and subcompacts, that's what NFL, Major League Baseball, your theme parks are all going to all public venues are pretty much because that's what people are carrying. So although we don't make that recommendation, it's probably what

084you should be going on. Okay? And what you think about is is okay, the higher you go is what more do they have to divest? What more do they have to take out the tighter you go? Again, if I want to go to this level means they've got to pretty much take everything out of the pocket, right? Or out of the you you can't screen them. It's just like an airport. If I have to go to this level, it's an airport level just about. >> Okay. So, tighter go. It's a trade-off, but you have to decide what you want to detect. >> That goes into my question. You know, the common tricks that a a student can try to do to bypass that is deter. >> Yeah. But let's be honest, okay? The reason most

085schools aren't going to this cuz you have to set up like a TSA checkpoint. Number one, it's more money, more staff, okay, if you want to do it right. Okay, but the reality is you have scissors in the classroom. You have stuff around the school. So why are you going to that level? Okay, and honestly there's stuff around the school that flag pole. I'll crack that pole in half and that spear far more dangerous than this. Okay, so a lot of Oh, we have to do that. Do you? Okay, this is just another layer in your security posture. So don't think this is going to stop everybody, right? It's just another thing sadly we have to do today. But do you have to go to that level where it's, you know, going from nothing to

086a high security checkpoint? Probably not warranted if you've only found, you know, one or two guns. Um I to me that makes no sense to go from nothing to this. >> How many students 15 minutes. You said >> 300. >> What's your average entrance time? Half hour, 40 minutes. >> Uh we program >> an hour. Okay. That's a lot of time for how many kids? 2,800. >> Yeah. You need again two detectors. You do uh what is it? 1,200 and a half hour with two detectors. So 2400, right? So two detectors at 1870 each. So basically we can set that up to make our own uh false you know depends on how >> and how >> any other reasons security professionals like me by the way I've been doing this since the 80s. I've been

087security my pretty much my entire career. >> Okay good like first time I was shot I was 9 years old in Chicago but I worked in nightclub business in Chicago and then I got into this side of security game. Um, one of the things we also want to do in security and public environments is we we the other reason to reduce the nuisance alarm rate is what we call alarm fatigue, okay? Is if you have too many alarms, it's like crying wolf, >> right? And people get used to it. Oh, it's no big deal. Okay, that actually happened in federal prison years ago. U and working with federal prisons, it was 19 I forget what year that was. a inmate would always alarm. It's because he had shrapnel in his body and he always alarm.

088So the guards would just ah it's just Joe let him go through. Okay. Well, what Joe did, he worked in the kitchen one day. He broke off a rod in the dishwasher, killed the guard. >> Okay. So, Federal Bureau of Prisons asked us, is there any way around that? So, what we did is built ID. So, now you scan in. We know exactly how much metal is in your body. You have an ID. Just like you get through the door, you have ID. even know exactly how much metal is in your body. You walk through again. You have any more, any less? Sets off an alarm. So, these are things. [cough] >> Uh what about the the um issues if something breaks down? How fast? You know, >> we can overnight you one. >> We

089can overnight you. Oh, >> okay. >> I mean, literally. And we do overnight them. Um so, the only thing So, first of all, these are basically big antennas. Anyone ever taken apart a TV or cell phone? It's copper. It's mostly what these are. Microchips up top. They're boards just like your computer, your laptop. We could overnight your board. So, if this wasn't cracked, so again, the damage you saw if somebody did some serious damage and it's cracked, there'd be a different thing. But again, we ship it, you know, hold detector overnight, no problem. Okay. Um, but if any went out, you know, the boards went out, we shipped that overnight, too. You just replace the boards. Very easy to replace. You talked about alarm fatigue. Um, personally, I know that's real because you'll respond somewhere

09010 times and it's that 11th time you turn the corner >> what you went there. >> And it's really why these exist. We want to reduce that nuisance alarm. Again, the reason we call nuisance alarm, you don't want to be chasing somebody's purse looking for what you think is a threat item. I'm spending all that time, okay, looking for threat items instead of focused on a real threat. Okay, so that's really the other reason. Let's reduce those so we don't have the fatigue and if it alerts and again at a stadium or something only seeing one to two%. So you're only pulling you know one or two people out of 100 aside and you want to check in thoroughly though. Don't make any assumptions. Check them up and down. Okay, schools admittedly the alarm rates

091a little higher. We're seeing about 7% on average. Some are higher that that new that follow our training protocol admittedly. Um and there's a range um but but not that high but we want to keep that alarm rate down especially because these are inexperienced these aren't security professionals working in schools. No offense to you but you know NYPD New York City school is one of the few that truly police officers are doing all screening. Okay. Only one in the country. Now there's SRO's in schools but not doing the screening. Okay. They're typically staff. Okay, with very little training, right? And that's where your mistakes are going to happen. The training happens and that's the other thing that we our trainers like myself have been at this many, many, many years. We, you know, one of

092my best buddies had a you for secret service, White House detail, ran all weapons detection, including, you know, nuclear threats. Um, it works for us. after 28 years to >> I'm good. >> Thank you. >> You bet. Good. >> Yeah. Thank you very much. >> Okay. Six for eight to come back. Yeah. >> 6.3 Review of Weapons Detection Systems. So, the district's safety considerations. >> Get all the stuff out of your way. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> You probably want to keep that. Sorry, I got lots of >> Oh, you're fine. >> Toys. >> No, we appreciate it. >> One quick question. How much do those uh weigh? I mean, you picked it up pretty >> 24 lb. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Super light. >> Yeah. Okay, while we wait for the slideshow. Yes, we have

093these. These are the ones that we actually So, those are here and will be on the campuses. >> Oh, they already? >> Yes. >> Oh, in my office. >> Um, it's available now. Sorry. [clears throat] >> Okay. I want to thank both of the companies for coming out and talking to us. I think there's a lot of good information given out. Okay. So, this is what I'm going to briefly talk about. Um, a lot of the stuff will they covered very well. Um, some of the data about why we're looking at this, the weapons that have been in school over time. Um just a couple of uh interesting points especially the nearly one in five students that they either carried a gun or had one been injured by one or by one on campus at

094the 2021 data but it's probably still accurate today. Um [clears throat] just keep in mind that these detection systems um you know they're they're pretty advanced. I think they're the the AI systems we need to be looking at to make our uh environment safer and um but they're a tool. They're just one part of the tool. They're part of our our our overall security system, which is our fencing and our security protocols and our security personnel. So, we want to keep in mind as well as our cameras that this is all part of a system to keep everybody safe. I think I don't know if he dropped he saw Is that a phone that fell >> behind the I think something dropped behind. >> Oh yeah, behind your seat. >> Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate it.

095>> Okay. So, all this stuff would be incorporated into our system and it would all work together to keep our students and staff safe. What I want to show you now is the current entrances that we have on each campus. Um this is Paris High. There's three entrances for students right now. the sped entrance, the main entrance, and then the bus entrance. And that's pretty much the same on each campus. Um, Heritage High School, the same situation. They have a student parking lot and bus entrance. Liberty High School has three, a sped entrance, main, and then the students come into the back parking lot. And then Paloma main entrance, a parent drop off gate, and then a sped parent drop off gate. So, they have three entrances as well. Penatti has two, a main and

096a bus entrance. Paris Lake is the only single entrance school along with a CMI. They have a single entrance as well. Reason I bring that up is is for your considerations of what type of uh systems we're going to use and what type of entries we're going to do. Under our current situation that we have, you know, we would have to consider the number of staff that we need for multiple entrances, the number of devices we would need for those um entrances. We need to know how many students are coming through. Like it says three 300 students every 15 minutes, uh 600 and half hour. What are those entrances looking like? How many systems are they going to need? Um, are we going to be able to staff and use the special ed entrances? That's

097going to be tricky. Those are all buses, but it's a lower amount of students, but those students do have situations where they bring stuff on campus. Um, power for the systems where we have our entrances, uh, the amount of time to screen all the students, and then where we going to put these systems once we're done with them. We have to store them somewhere. So that's considerations that you guys have to look at. Um moving to a single point entry for each campus. Same type of considerations. We have to reroute students, change parking [clears throat] lot areas, traffic flow. Um again, the number of staff, um the amount of time to stream the system, the students, the number of systems we'll need for those entrances, how we're going to power the system, and we're going

098to store the system. So things for you guys as the board to consider and for us to consider as we move forward in this process. Okay. Uh that's just brief for me. Any questions or um and I'll provide answers. The [snorts] So I didn't hear an official recommendation on numbers except how many ent point of entries we have for all the high schools. [snorts] And uh if we go based off the point of entries, I'm counting three for point of entry, one for each point of entry, you know, and then again, it depends if uh we have one high traffic area, whatnot. So if that would be multiple units, but based on your single point entries at each campus, that's 13 units. >> Are you talking about single point or you talking about our existing

099entrances? >> Existing entrances. >> Yeah, sorry. existing entrances. I would, you know, my recommendation would be the main entrance we would have depending on which system we go with, >> right? >> So, um, for the going with the last system, I would recommend two in the at the main entrance, one at the bus entrance and one for um, special ed if we go that route, if we choose to to to screen special ed. Um that's 1,200 per half hour in the front and uh 600 per half hour on the side which it's depending on the school it's three to six three to five buses. So that's how I would break it down. So it would be probably three to four per school with the exception of uh Panakat which would be two, Paris would be

100one, Paris Lake would be one and um CMI would be two. The sped entrance is only um the special need students are allowed to go through there. >> Correct. [clears throat] With the exception of Paloma which is sped students and it's a drop off for um general ed students. Everyone else has their own. >> Um John, any thought about the after hours use of these? Um, I know football games is a big target. Say you have basketball. Um, typically when we're out at the stadium, we we used to try to lock down the say a Heritage the uh the quad area and and lock the front gate so they couldn't get into the campus. But somehow someone would always exit and some kids would get in there somehow or they had to go to ASB

101to get something or this or that. >> So we the systems we we definitely will have to move them and that's where I see opportunity to damage them if we don't have a set way we're going to move them and keep everything together charged and like you said where we're going to keep them. Um, I would just suggest we walk the sites to see where these the potential to store the things and charge up batteries and things like that. >> Well, and just keep in mind to to address the first part about sporting events. >> Um, that would not be daily, you know, that would like say football that certain Thursdays and Fridays throughout the fall. Um, and I did speak to another district that actually um is in has the open gate system and

102they're using it strictly for uh sporting events right now. They originally bought it for entry, but they were challenged with the staffing issue. They didn't think about the staffing issue once they got them and said, "How are we going to staff this?" So, they just moved it to the sporting events. So, what they've done is they set them up and about 40 yards ahead of where they have them set up, they have trash cans and they have signs that say what's not allowed in the football games and you they say that they people will walk up, read their signs. People will turn around and go back to their cars. People will take stuff out of their pocket, throw in the trash, come in, go through the system, and go and enjoy the game. When they

103check the trash cans after, they find knives. They find pepper spray, they find vapes, you know, people are, you know, they're getting rid of the stuff because they know they're about to to walk through the system. So, it is a deterrent to people bringing those things in. So, that's something we can look at and then we'd have to create policies and procedures for for using it no matter how we use it. But, it is something that's doable and it seems to be working elsewhere. >> I think we'll have the same issue staffing. Um, so you try to staff a stadium and you've got two sides, visitors, homeside, visitors, and you've got the back entrance. >> Well, it'll be a lot easier to staff athletic events than it will >> regular school. Yes. >> Have you

104looked at any kind of numbers for if we need to staff like during the regular school day, what that might look like? >> Yeah, I'm going with the recommendations from [clears throat] the companies. I'm thinking um depending on which devices we're systems we're using and how many we're using it's anywhere from three to eight people at at an insurance. So we would you know if we're using a system single entry let's say the the open gate system at a single entry we could get probably get away with two to three people. We're using a double evolve system at the front. Double going. We're looking at um six to eight people. >> What kind of how do I what kind of staffing did that I mean um what would they what uh department would they follow

105there? >> Well, that's that's under the consideration something we have to figure out, >> right? Okay. >> Because we couldn't do it Yeah. We couldn't do it with all the security staff. The other issue that you have with using your security staff is if you go single point entry or if you go to keep it the way it is, you need to secure the rest of your campus because what happens? Hey, I can't. They're going to be doing metal detectors. I'm going to slip stuff under the fence. I'm going to >> hide stuff in the bushes. Your security staff needs to be dealing with that. As well as the fact that you're screening these people on, you're going to have a thousand kids on campus. Somebody needs to be able to supervise those people. So

106you're not going to want your security team, >> right, >> tied down to this. >> And and we did go to Heaven Unified to view their system. They're using the evolve system. And then we're utilizing four staff members for a dual lane uh process. And then we're using two clerical to just identify the students and then security are the ones that would be searching, making, and checking off once they check the bags and things like that. And to answer the question earlier about the open gate system or anything involved, do you have a backup? So yes, we do have a backup to do less invasive searches. So once we find something, we know exactly what we're looking. Well, we have an SRO at every Well, I guess we'd have to move them as we need

107them. Let's say they found something. We had an incident. Of course, the SRO's got to go straight to that, right? I don't know how many technical we have in a game. Um, but I'm thinking if somebody actually had a weapon that our security staff is not armed or it's no way they can deal with them, >> right? >> Um, so we have to be aware of where you're training with >> place your SRO's strategically or something. >> That's the other consideration on staffing. Yeah. and and single single plane entry versus multiple point entries. You know, if you have multiple and you have a bus zone and there's a report of a weapon, your throat's got to go there. Now, you have the main entrance, another weapon, they've got to come over and deal with that

108as well. >> So, and for football games, we will be centralized in one spot and we have multiple deputies >> at games. So, we can we can have them available for that. That's a trial and error. >> Like I said, the sporting events is a lot easier to staff and to deal with than the entry of of the students and so it's more challenging. >> Yeah. I I just when we have events, it brings people from other places. >> Yes. >> And their parents can usually be can be a problem too. >> Well, the interesting thing about it, EMTT uses it for athletic events. Well, they use metal detectors for their athletic lens >> and um Corona Norco [clears throat] is using the open gate system and they've they've had um the response has been

109very positive from home as well as visiting teams. Okay. >> They're really appreciative of it and and they haven't had any problems with people refusing to go through argument about it school district. I'm good. >> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> Okay, moving on. Uh, actually 7.1 business author for purchase orders above 50,000 November 2025. Do I have a motion? Someone >> second. Uh thank you Trusty Horn and on the first and Trusty Garcia on the second. Any discussion? >> Yeah. Uh yes. Um I is this for the uh the training room that we were in last Saturday or a few Saturdays ago for um >> Oh yeah, for the workshop. Couldn't think of it. Sorry. Yeah. Everything looks good in there. I don't see why we should replace something and spend that kind

110of money on something that uh we can push to something else. So, I I don't understand why we're looking at spending that kind of money redo carpet. I mean, what are they actually trying to do? What do they want to re uh redo? >> Yeah, the train room. They wanted the tables to be able to roll because those tables are heavy. Wasn't that one of the considerations? Remember those tables were very heavy, >> right? >> Um they had reconfigured the the room, but they don't have a set custodian over I don't think that's there during the time they have to have to be set up. So they had to do it. I think what they did say is those tables that are there can be definitely used somewhere else. I mean I'm not saying yes

111or no. I just >> just tables 60,000 in tables. >> No, I don't. >> Okay. >> All right. Yes. Um so the training room the third building in the back. So what um you said the first part for training room one is is correct. Uh the chairs are appropriate but the tables are I believe over 15 years old. We have um one uh person who does the setup. It's on it's used districtwide so on a daily basis that moves. And right now the practice is she runs around trying to find other secretaries that could help move. Um uh and it's the last room in the district that isn't able to accommodate kind of the amount of PD that that we do. Um so the chair stayed that's for training room one. Um what we're calling

112mini training room one used to be the former um director of CNI office. Um but that's being converted back to um a conference room. So, we've been just kind of pulling uh tables in order to be able to have meetings in there. Um, and training room two uh is where all of the supplies are that just has one workstation in the middle. We've taken all of the community liaison and family engager and then the the community covered things that we use at the events. Um, we use all the other storage around. So that just means one workspace um in the middle. And in training room three, uh we did convert that space in order to accommodate um eight employees that are currently working on PD tables. They don't actually have um workstations. Um and so

113that's where the 64,000 is. Um the chairs are good. Um so there's no reason to change those out. Um the tables, we do have other school sites that have also asked for some of those tables um because they'll be in locations where they won't need to move. Um and so that's what that um covers. It mostly covers all the training rooms and then just one location where we have eight um uh PSCA members that don't have workstations. >> How serious are we about moving the district office? Is that still Is that something that we're looking forward to in the near future or future? >> That's a lot, right? >> I mean, I know for me I I would definitely >> that's something I mean obviously we have to figure out all the financials, but I

114mean I know for me that would be one of those front burner burner issues, you know, and I for me I guess you know the cost now knowing what the security I mean that to me immediately what I think of is that's three metal detectors or three of those safety and it's you know priority wise I mean you know, I just I don't know. You know, a lot of times we hear the financial situation is, well, we're deficit spending. We've got all this stuff. And so, until, you know, for me, until, you know, we're we're in a position where I mean, I know it's probably onetime money, but I think until we're in a position where we can just say, hey, you know what, we are not deficit spending. We don't have that kind of

115concern because obviously I think we have uh bigger issues and expenses that are kind of uh on the on the front burner, which I'm already calculating in my head. And obviously those are not ones that I'm going to want to try to put off. But um so that's kind of where for me it's like >> and I can clarify the funding. So this was um the funding that initially was part of moving pupil services to the back of house. Um but since there is not enough room to accommodate both those departments, we reduced the scope of work at the back of pals. And this is coming out of the fund um that uh is not for security measures is for um furniture um and this type of equipment um out of the fiscal budget. And

116so uh that's how the funding was redirected in order to accommodate some of the changes we had to do at SSC. >> So question um do you never have a custodian go over there ever? So, we have um one um custodian um but there's no daytime custodian. Uh she comes um toward the end of the day. Uh she does the trash around 1 and then comes back uh closer to 3:30 to 4:00 and then her her day uh ends. During the day, she works um at the ML. And so, um, we don't have a a system where district-wide you would do like a work order and there's like people who would come every day to change it. No, we do have the the uh PD technician who takes care of all of that across the

117district. But this is our largest room and it's the for whatever reason it's the only one that doesn't have the ability for things to just move or the whiteboard tables and uh like all the other what you see in the the rooms that are close that are here or the other training room at pals. Um it's for whatever reason it's the only one that uh doesn't allow for the one person to move. Uh they're very heavy. It does require at least two people per table. >> So, how often are you having a training? Uh >> well, this is the district room. So, this the trainings and uses daily. >> When's the last time it was updated? >> When I um Mr. um Fritz was there and he said, "Oh, wow. These have been here for

11815 years." >> It was good. I'm sorry. >> Oh, no. Oh, no. that they they look at the the issue is is just uh the strain of that it's just in a space that has to be adjusted um if not daily maybe four to five days a week based on the meetings and if they're not full day meetings then whoever had in the morning you have to have someone be able to change it. So it is becoming a it's just physically you're trying to find people to adjust Well, I think for me, I'm just, you know, because we have all these things kind of up in the air with u what's at the different sites and the way things are set up and I mean, you know, obviously I think they're aware of uh I

119mean I would like to kind of see how it all works and in action, but um I mean I just think at this time I for me to to be on board of this I I need more information to take a look and see what actually what do we have because I think that's kind of one of the questions that we have all these different sites and different places going on and so >> can we get like u maybe yeah um what we're working with and then what you guys want so we can >> if there was um and I don't know how it works but at bare minimum just to be able to get the um eight employee workstations they are they're working on PD tables that we took out of the PD room

120in the back of PAL. So, we just have eight employees at minimum that need a work workstation. >> How many workstations are you looking for >> there? In that quote, I believe there's eight um for the eight uh teachers. >> And I don't think um on there we have the new single point entry. It may be the reception because it's a a single point entry now. So there's a wall with the the window and the So we just stuck a few chairs in there, but we have a a single point now. So there's like a reception area similar to what you see in um HR actually exactly what you see in HR. >> I mean I can see okay they don't have a workstation for those particular right >> fine but to to revamp everything

121with with we might want to buy get a in the district office. Uh we got the uh security system we're looking at. Um and we're also in keep being told we're in suspicious spending. >> So that's all I know. >> Well, okay. So on the teacher side, are these TOSAs? >> Yes, there are instructional coaches and our tech coach, our tech coaches um that came over from technology. >> So they're not assigned at sites? >> No. >> Okay. Would that be? Well, I I think there's I mean, for me, I I think there's more questions and absolutely more of a conversation to have. So, unless anybody has anything, I'll I'm ready to I'm ready to >> When you say when you say workstation, are you like building or just >> No, they're they're in a

122room where we've taken some of these tables out of other rooms. They don't they just don't have a a desk. They don't have a desk. They're just on tables. And so we had taken the tables out of TR1, but then every time we had um larger events, we would have to take the tables so they would be backward. >> Um so we're just at least trying to help. >> And are you is a long-term um station that they're going to have? >> Yes. Yes. So, it says we've all we've had, I believe in this district, the instructional um toas and the TEDtosas um when they came uh they do rotate I you know they do go to sites but they also do a lot of collaboration and training on site because we're doing the math

123adoption. We're doing a lot of things with the smaller teacher groups. So although they're at site they also need like a a space as well. So they're all in uh one room. And so what on that uh order is not as wide uh smaller but single and they go up and down and have the holes and stuff for technology and then one roller drawer so they could have you know the three file type drawer. >> Well, okay. I'd like to see what that price tag is. Yes, it's it's part of >> Well, yeah, but I'm not I can't approve the whole 62. No, >> I like to see, you know, take care of our and see what it looks like, you know, to give them a place to so they can have a workstation. Well,

124and and and I think looking ahead, um you know, obviously obviously the techtosis I'm a little surprised that they wouldn't just be on the site because I think that's I thought that that was the whole purpose of them kind of tackling on-site >> issues, right? >> Um but at the same time, you know, with I know some of the conversations with staffing, um some of these positions might not be long-term positions. Um, so you know, obviously I think you know we can find kind of a like what you're saying a fix. Um, yeah. Well, yeah. I don't I need definitely more more information on that information, but if there's no other discussion, if anybody else wants to add anything making sure, just put it to a vote. See no other discussion. All right. Please load

125it. On a vote being taken, we have three in favor and two opposed. Uh so now go ahead and moving on to 8.1 adjourn to close session. Do I have a motion to adjurnn to close session? So move. >> Thank you Trusty Coch. Do I have a second? >> Second. Thank you Trusty Stafford. Um seeing no discussion or questions, please vote. Oh being taken the vote with in favor, zero opposed. and we are adjourning to close session at 5:46 p.m. 9.1 the special board meeting of the Paris Union High School District is reconvening at 6:49. Oral reports 10.1 report on close session session. >> Okay. Thank you Dr. Rouse. And number 11.1 adjournment special meeting of the board of trustees for November 20th, 2025. Do I have a motion? >> Some move. Thank you, Trusty

126Christie. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Trusty Hall. Seeing no discussion or conversation, questions, please vote. On a vote being taken, the vote was five in favor, zero opposed, and the meeting is adjourned at 6:50. Thank you.