001there it is good evening welcome to this regular meeting of the power Unified School Board it is June 4th and it is 6:05 p.m. this meeting is being recorded and broadcast so if you're here you might be seen or heard on that recording I now invite you to stand for the pledge I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to theic for stands one nation indivisible with libery and justice for all thank you item 3.2 is our report out of closed session clerk KET all right um our session began at 408 for uh 2.5-in the matter of public employee discipline dismissal release reassignment resignation non- reelection on a motion by Miss uh Dr sitzman a second by Miss o Conor Radcliffe the board voted to release an assistant principal affected
002at the close of the 2023 2024 work year and reassign the assistant principal to a classroom teaching position for the 2024 2025 school year pursuant to Education Code section 44 951 the vote was unanimous 2.6 DB the matter of public employee appointment principal Elementary School on a motion by Dr Patel and a second by miss kuet the board voted to take action and close session to appoint Laura di quisto as an elementary school principal and the vote was unanimous we want to clap is she here is she here yeah there she is for 2.6 DB in the matter of public employee appointment principal Elementary School in a motion by Dr Patel and a second by Dr sitma the board voted unanimously to take action and close session to appoint Terry herd as Elementary School principal
003[Applause] 2.6 DB in the matter of public employee appointment principal Elementary School and a motion by Miss plotsky and a second by Dr Patel the boat voed unanimously to take action and close session to appoint William Egan as Elementary School principal there he is 2. 6-b in the matter of public employee appointment principal Elementary School and a motion by Dr Patel and a second by miss ploty the board voted unanimously to to take action in close session to appoint Stephanie weeks as Elementary School principal there was no other reportable action taken during Clos session and Clos session adjourned at 5:51 thank you clerk kuet please note on item 3.3 that all six board members are in attendance tonight and for item 3.4 welcome to the public Mr tretti welcome to the monthly meeting of the
004Board of Education if you would like to address the board on any agenda item please complete a speaker slip all requests to speak must be submitted to the clerk of the board before the agenda item comes up speaking time for agenda items is 2 minutes per speaker if you would like to address the board on a non- agendized item you may do so under item 4.2 public comments speaking time is limited to 2 minutes per speaker with a maximum of 30 minutes total unless Wave by the board president there will be a 30second yellow warning light when time is running out speakers may only speak on one topic under item 4.2 and may not defer their speaking time to another individual if there are concerns regarding specific individuals it is preferred that the speaker refrain
005from naming them publicly to respect their privacy the board will accept and review any written materials that would provide more specific information the brown act does not permit board action or extended discussion of any item not on theend agenda but your concerns will be referred to staff with that said welcome and thank you for coming thank you Mr TR betti item 3.5 is approval of our agenda sequence is there a motion motion to approve a motion by Dr sites there second second second by Dr Patel all those in favor I'll start with Miss travetti for a preferential vote and everyone else I all right that passes unanimously six nothing thank you 4.1 is our student board representatives and I've got three schools and four students sitting there all right who wants to go first all
006right if you don't tell me I'm going to go with naen Palma from Ranch Bernardo [Applause] welcome good evening and thank you so much for allowing me to speak with you all my name is Palma and I am the asby President of ranch Bernardo High School this is now my second board meeting of the year and I'm thrilled to share some exciting updates on behalf of ran Bernardo looking back at March I'm glad to inform you all that our Bronco Cella Music Festival had an amazing turnout we had over 600 student attendees which was the highest attendance for any of our previous Springtime events along with 10 student composed performance groups during the month of April all of the Power unified ASB presidents collaborated ated for an April full Spirit day where we traded school
007apparel with each other to bring unity and school pride amongst our sister campuses wrapping up our spring Sports season we had a very strong finish across all our athletic teams our boy track our boys track and field program won at league and went to CIF our boys ba baseball team won CIF finals and completed their exciting Journey at state in addition our boys and girls lacrosse team won academic lacrosse CIF North County all academic team this has reflected how our amazing athletes have been able to successfully balance both their Sports and academics we also had an amazing prom night at the USD H Center last month this year's Gala at Gatsby's prom was a night full of dancing live jazz music silent disco and tons of fun and tons of fun and games in the
008Torero Rec Center testing was a huge success at rbhs this year over 96% of our Junior and senior Broncos completed their Ela math and science test and more than 900 students took AP exams in total rbhs administered over 1,500 AP exams this year alone the month of May was also packed with tons of student engagement on campus to kick off Memorial Day Weekend ASB put on this year's celebrate assembly where we were surfing Into Summer to celebrate or to save our mascot Billy the Bronco from a shark attack our student body participated in multiple Beach themed games and our Color Guard cheer and dance team did an amazing job in their performances we also recognized our seven retiring staff members and we will miss them dearly next year we got the chance to welcome our
009incoming freshman at our annual Bobcats to Broncos day and our counseling department also put on an amazing College and Career Day for juniors along with the lunchtime career fair for all bronos students and they had all an outstanding turnout our Visual and Performing Arts department has also been a uh shining star on campus this semester this year's Shrek musical put on by our fellow students and our and our performing arts teacher Miss Morris and Miss Crest was recognized as one of the top five musicals in San Diego County for Broadway musical awards and two of our lead actors Kat Hansen and Carlos Gomez were named in the top 20 of soloist for Broadway San Diego as well our Bronco TV news show directed by Mr Kalen also won four out of the five categories at
010the nchs film festival last month last night we held our senior Awards night to recognize 191 of our seniors for their hard work and accomplishments 41 of those seniors also were named AS Scholarship recipients with this year coming to an end our Bronco leaders have been busy planning many senior events to make these last moments the ones to remember this past Friday they celebrated their grand night at Disneyland where they all got to experience the magical night together together at the happiest place on Earth this morning we continued the fun food we continued with fun sorry we continued the fun we continued to the fun with food and activities at our annual senior picnic our seniors celebrated some of their last moments together signing yearbooks taking pictures getting caps and gowns and playing games all
011in preparation for graduation this Thursday we would like to thank our PTSA and and the rbhs Foundation senior class advisor staff members and administration for supporting us in all of our events this year we can't thank them enough for all of their hard work and Devotion to our school thank you so much for granting me the opportunity to speak this uh speak with you all this evening and I look forward to continuing to bring Spirit equality and inclusion onto our campus next year have a great summer thank you very much we'll stick with high school and go with Sonia Singh from Del Norte [Applause] welcome good evening members of the board my name is Sonia Singh and I'm the current ASB president of Del Norte High School I'm happy to be here to share what
012has gone on at Del Norte for the past couple of months and the rest of our school year starting on May 6th our Nighthawks began AP exams spending time studying and preparing for the long testing days students participated in studying events put on by peer counseling and attending Nighthawk tutoring after AP exams ending on May 16th our new Nighthawk ambassadors were selected after an application and interview process our past and future ambassadors have just participated in their first event at Monterey Ridge pushing into next year our Nighthawks have filled out and submitted their course request forms choosing their courses for the upcoming school year our seniors just completed their finals week and their last day of school is going to be on May 31st stud seniors will be graduating on June 6th following the end
013of finals for the rest of the students and a week of senior activities outside of academics our students had many fun activities as well as achievements prom was on May 18th hosted at the Broadway Pier students got a fun kickoff to prom spirit week and the junior class ended up winning our seniors recently got to participate in an next for Spirit day where they got to Showcase their next steps after high school with college or future gear in our in our Athletics we had four fielda flock events for this past trimester a program which we used to highlight different sports with a student section also this past Friday and Saturday our dance team held their final dance concert of the year on top of this there were many athletic achievements our softball team made States
014our girls AOS team played placed second in division 1 CIF championships and one of our Nighthawks was named field athlete of the Year outside of CIF titles our Athletics held their own awards ceremony the netp honoring athletic achievements of delor students lastly on campus we have been working to highlight different groups and educate students on different world events on the 25th and 26th of April our US History classes participated in a civil rights fair in the quad to educate students on different topics and issues regarding civil rights our AP World classes partnered with the equity Alliance on the butterfly project decorating butterflies as a symbol of Hope to honor those who passed in the Holocaust another event hosted by our Equity team was our fourth Bagels in belonging focusing on students on gaining student voices
015on campus-wide improvement over a bagel breakfast students also got the chance to participate in our annual kindness week as a part of kindness relay there were lunchtime activities in the quad such as giving out Ring Pops to peers and posting kind messages on the wall our South Asian culture Show Club recently performed two shows showcasing different types of cultural dance selling out one of the days all proceeds from the show went to the Akra Foundation to help children in India who are in need last Wednesday our Equity team as well as our black student union contributed to our restorative practices training training young individuals to grow into leaders with the help of speakers and volunteers lastly as we have just entered pride month Equity Alliance H held a lunchtime activity making bracelets incorporating our lgbtq
016plus Community we're very proud of all these past achievements and we hope to keep this momentum moving on to next year thank you a lot going on thank you for sharing um from Stone Ranch Elementary we have Gavin Park and Haley [Music] [Applause] rash welcome guys good evening everyone my name is Gavin Park and this is Haley rash and we are the fifth grade student council officers at Stone Ranch Elementary we would like to thank you for allowing us to speak tonight and are excited to share with you some of the amazing things we have done this year at Stone Ranch every other Friday we have Community Gatherings where the entire School comes together to celebrate good character friendship and school spirit at the Gatherings we learn how important School togetherness is the donor ambassadors
017join us at some of our Gatherings and help us learn about problem solving and citizenship using fun Skits the skits represent real problems and situations that students may find themselves in and how to find a solution student council also hosted a charity event this year to support Second Chance Dog Rescue which is a nonprofit organization that finds homes for rescue dogs we collected donations of blankets pet food dog beds Toys and other pet supplies I'll now pass on the mic to Haley who will talk about some more of the amazing things that we have done at Stone Ranch one of our best and most favorite student council events that we host is the student council movie night for students and their families this amazing event is always such a blast in addition to student council
018we also have a group of Trailblazers called the character ambassadors they work really hard on their amazing skits that they perform for us at our community Gatherings like Gavin mentioned before where we celebrate Good Care the character Ambassador skits include life lessons such as how to be fair and to treat others with respect our newest group of terrific Trailblazers is called The Hope Squad they help bring our community together and show school spirit they help us realize how great of a community we are and they have fun crafts and events throughout the year both of these groups of Trailblazers help bring our community together as a school that promotes no place for hate to wrap up the year we had another really fun event that student council hosts staff stunts staff stunts are where student
019council officers set up an obstacle course but instead of kids competing the staff compete this year the challenges including tossing a water balloon back and forth with a partner eating a donut off of a string playing ring toss and more it's always so much fun to watch the staff compete and to cheer on the teachers as we conclude our speech we would like to thank you again for letting us speak tonight and to share the amazing things about our school we are so proud to be Trailblazers and always will be thank you thank you to all our students uh who presented tonight if you would like to go we get it now is a good time for that if you want to stay make yourselves comfortable but now's a good time we're going to move
020on to four point to our public comments and I will note off the top here um if you would like to address the board please fill out a public speaker request I should note we already have more than more speakers than time allotted if everyone takes their full time speaking is limited to two minutes per speaker with a maximum of 30 minutes total um which if everybody takes their full two minutes that's 15 speakers and we have of 17 cards so if you are going to go shorter than that or if you can condense your statements we might get our last two speakers their opportunity to speak as well um just a reminder if you have concerns regarding specific individuals it's preferred you refrain from naming them publicly the appropriate complaint process can be obtained
021from Miss Anderson over on the end of the dis here the board will not allow any disturbance or willful interruptions of our meeting we have an expectation of Civility decor forum and respect we know you're all capable of doing that so thanks very much with that in mind clerk kuet call our first Speaker all right first up is Dr Dees visha good evening my name is Dr D visha I'm running for Powe school board for trusty area a um today I want to speak about a really wonderful Community event that we had this past weekend we had our campaign kickoff we had 60 members in attendance um at The Hilltop Park in Reno penos Kos uh it was really a wonderful event because we had representatives from across the PD Community this included three PD
022trustees we had representatives of the special education um Community as well as class classified staff Educators we also had parents and a number of students there from the ages of 6 to 18 the themes that I heard at this kickoff were really a focus on investing and increasing our support for student mental health which is a theme of our campaign as well we also heard about the importance of hiring a superintendent who is compassionate and also competent and has experience leading a large uh District like pal unified um and finally another theme I heard was the importance of preserving our Arts and Music education for our students so thank you so much for hearing me today again it's Dr davish visha I'm running for power UniFi trusty area a our website if anyone wants to
023learn more is www.des d v for PD and that's F pd.com thank you fre difference hi I was Palmer council's PTA president who established the Jedi committee and I have remained a member of the committee for the past four years Jedi is important to me as a mother of black children with marginalized identities including lgbtq plus and special education needs after the events of the last two weeks which began with a hate campaign against our Jedi share I don't know if I can continue to be part of PTA and it really pains me to say that PTA talks about being careful about representing PTA values when you're wearing your PTA hat but it just as important when you're not wearing your PTA hat that you can represent other organizations and opinions you shouldn't have to
024give up your life outside PTA because we are volunteers the recent attempt by Palmer Council board to dissolve Jedi puts all our and needed Volunteers in a very difficult Place does it intend to monitor the private social media accounts of all its volunteers and who would be doing that monitoring ironically Palmer Council PTA did not follow their own bylaws in attempting to dissolve Jedi they made the decision without so much as a conversation with us unaware of the full context and wide reaching impact of such decision the Jedi Comm Community exists and we are strong we received an amazing support at 9th District PTA Summer Leadership Conference this past weekend so many PTA leaders from around San Diego County stood up and de demanded to know how PTA could let this happen when Dei is
025such a central commit commitment of this National Organization if PT Pama council is saying that uh its values don't be uh extend beyond nice white parents its membership problems are never going to improve thank you Stuart cook Stuart cook is this District protecting their next political gigs or their pensions by pretending not to know what's being taught in PD an assignment by Megan vulgar tried to teach my daughter that white people and Donald Trump were the primary perpetrators of violence against Asians government data shows that blacks commit five times the rate of violence against Asians why would a teacher lie to my child our four eyes of Oppression curriculum tells my children that all whites are unconsciously oppressive and all whites including children believe every negative word in the English language about people of color
026and I'm not exaggerating an ethnic studies whiteboard lesson told children to join anti-semitic BLM who sent out posts gleefully supporting the R and torture attacks of October 7th this lesson was broken into four sections based on the Four Eyes of Oppression my son is constantly bombarded with land acknowledgements even over the loudspeaker to all students for what inclusion how is it inclusive to tell 35,000 students that all the land their family owns really belongs to 16 students families because that's how many Native American students are in this District from your own State Testing docks land acknowledgements constantly tell students that they murdered the Indians Four Eyes of Oppression tells them that they're racists and history teachers lie that they're hurting Asians when are we going to stop doing this to our children if we stop
027if we stop teaching our children to hate themselves and hate our country maybe 23s of PD's new hires won't have to be mental health related how about fixing this over the summer for the next school year Jenna Corino good evening my name is Jenna Corino and I'm a co-founder of the Palomar Council PTA Justice Equity diversity and inclusion group as some of you may know our group and chair were recently targeted by the organization pure k12 and Jews in schools as they participated in a social media hate campaign claiming our committee's chair and our group are anti-semitic I speak today as a Jewish woman living in Powe and deeply concerned about the harm these groups are doing to our community they are broadcasting misinformation about anti-Semitism and using those claims to support views that Equity
028practices are doing more harm than good while true anti-Semitism in our schools is a continued issue that needs to be taken extremely seriously these groups are in fact aiming to dimin to diminish Dei work they do not stand for the views of all Jewish people and furthermore should not be considered as groups who advocate for safe Equitable practices in our schools the following is from uh the following is from a letter written by the Jewish voices for peace whose San Diego chapter represents over 6,000 local supporters quote criticizing the state of Israel for its policies laws and military actions is not anti-semitic Jews in schools and pure K12 are extremist organizations that weaponize anti-Semitism to undermine diversity equity and inclusion efforts they have systematically targeted Educators administrators and parent volunteers Nationwide in an effort to
029dismantle Dei programs unquote it has come to my attention that these groups may have been a strong influence behind the recent actions of the Palomar council's PTA to dissolve the Jedi program and discharge its members while we are still waiting on a response as to why exactly this dissolution was proposed I urge the board members and the community do not consider the P k12 and jwen schools groups for true and factual accounts of anti-Semitism and to take their anti-e Equity campaigns into consideration as politically driven harmful efforts to stop progression of equity diversity and inclusion thank you so [Applause] much Kim Avant thank you for the opportunity to address you this evening I am here to discuss a very troubling situation at Highland Ranch Elementary that negatively impacts students teachers and staff my youngest daughter
030is one of multiple students that have been physically and verbally harassed by the same student the situation has escalated to a point where the same student's parent is harassing other parents including myself on and off campus my understanding is that PD does not have a formal policy on parent conduct including appropriate steps to hold parents accountable for their actions to ensure the safety and wellbeing of the overall School Community parents who refuse to participate in resolving issues respect Administration and conduct themselves within a societal Norm of decorum are enabled to make inappropriate comments outlandish accusations false and inflammatory statements and encourage their child to bully others when the School site response and District culture is to cater to the loudest voices concocted stories false narratives and unfounded claims it does a grave disservice to the
031entire Community PD should stand for what is right and in the best interest of the students teachers and staff as victims we choose to resolve the situation for our mental and physical health by leaving friendships and a school Community we have been a part of for 11 years our daughter's heart is broken and many tears have been shed despite our leaving I have concern shared by many others that the other parents conduct will continue it is imperative that a parent code of conduct including accountability procedures be implemented to ensure there is no longer a loophole that allows this type of parent conduct thank you Jennifer singer I began at Highland ran element Highland Ranch in 2021 for preschool um there's been an ongoing situation at Highland Ranch Elementary School over the past two years that
032I do not feel has been adequately addressed the situation revolves around a parent who makes the school environment unsafe stressful anxiety-ridden for students teachers staff Administration other parents and after school programs concerns about the parents erratic and confrontational Behavior your use of her child as a conduit to bully other students false accusations against parents students teachers staff and the administration alike have gone uncurved I have written more than a dozen emails had dozens of phone conversations and probably had a dozen meetings across hres in numerous about numerous situations involving her and her daughter stealing rude comments calling people unacceptable names my mom says you are this type statements driving aggressively in the school zones honking horns flipping people off yelling through car windows all began the first day of school 2022 because of a lack
033of tools the school has largely relied on parents and Highland Ranch employees to conduct ourselves civil hoping we do not react and only report behavior that is threatening intimidating or harassing this has been fruitless in causing any discernable change in the parents Behavior two years of appeasement giving her special treatment as a way to try to avoid further conflict has not worked instead it has emboldened her to continue her behavior and escalated it because there are no consequences she uses loopholes and PD's codes like being just feed off campus when engaging in these behaviors are having her daughter make comments or say disturbing or mean things to other students on campus on her behalf I want to be able to walk my daughter to school without fear anxiety that anything is going to be said
034to us again please help us solve this problem by instituting a parent code of conduct the culture of the school is damaged her behavior has made meaningfully negative impacts on the first grade and the entire school and I don't know how I'm going to make it through four more years at Highland Ranch thank you very much Alison Knight stand up sit hi my name is Addison and I am a student at Poway School that the board represents what does Jedi mean to you I think it's means finding a solution to make the world a better place why is it important to have a Jedi group at your school so we can help students go to school and feel safe also to make sure all students have what they need like clothes or jackets what Jedi
035events have you participated in I helped with costume share events so everyone who wanted could participate in our Halloween parade I also helped with our jacket and winter wear share event to make sure everyone had warm jackets we also had the Earth Day fair and learned how to not litter and be responsible for our planet we also participated Maring for what we believed is important thank you for listening Maggie Knight good evening on behalf of parents of the Jedi commit committee which stands for justice Equity diversity and inclusion we are disappointed about the news of Palomar Council PTA dissolving our committee without any prior notice or opportunity for discussion Jedi has been and continues to be a support system ensures our families feel safe and welcomed and our presence sends a strong statement to our
036school community that we are united and invested in each other's successes through celebrating our Multicultural religious and unique experiences that enrich the lives of our families we are astounding board that works in partnership with our school leaders and staff to ensure that students are represented and that families are getting the support and resources they need to thrive research has shown that a student's sense of belonging improves academic outcomes increases attendance and enrollment and helps mental health we work to find creative ways to address deeper issues that are often overlooked including neurode Divergent needs socioeconomic gaps medical needs and non-traditional family structures and more for example we created events throughout the year where all families could come and shop for free clothing household goods and other items they would benefit from these events alone created a
037healthier environment by eliminating waste and encouraging our students and families to be more intentional about the items not going directly to a donation center or the lamill it gave families the opportunity to get items they need without any judgment or need to divulge their financial status it also taught our students the importance of taking care of the one planet we have and being resourceful decision makers without Jedi our community weakens because students are less likely to recognize their responsibility to care for each other as a collective the unilateral retraction of Jedi disrupts the harmonious Jedi events that have occurred without incident all throughout pawe unified the events and initiatives that we put on demonstrate to our students and our families that they have a supportive loving set of voices that bring us together in recognizing
038there is a seat for all students Charlotte Knight hi my name is Charlotte and I'm a student at a PO UniFi school that that at the power Unified School that the board represents I've heard some people don't know what Jedi really does what Jedi does is supports family that need more help or can't afford all the stuff that students need but they can't by Jedi give students a chance to be included we used to have an event at our school where dads would come to bring bring donuts but we thought students might not that might not have dads but might feel left out so we changed it to goodies with grown-ups so that so that any adult could celebrate with their students Jedi also put on around the world night where we learned about other
039people's cultures and traditions it was a really fun night I hope Jedi never goes away in morals make Jedi groups thank you for listening Rebecca [Applause] Oakley PD's policy of keeping a child's transgender self-identification away from parents is puts children on the school to gender Clinic pipeline since you support this pipeline I'm going to tell you about the various health risks these poor children who cross- seex hormones develop and this is straight from the endocrine Society by the way a man taking estrogen has a very high risk of developing deep vein thrombosis and Pulmonary eism he has a moderate to high risk of developing a tumor in his pituitary gland as well as severe liver dysfunction breast cancer coronary artery disease cerebrovascular disease severe migrain headaches and a stroke and depression a woman taking testosterone
040has a high risk of De developing breast cancer uterine cancer ovarian cancer stroke severe liver dysfunction vaginal atrophy and om metrial atrophy her good cholesterol will be lowered her bad cholesterol will be raised and she may become insulin resistant again review the endocrine Society guidelines on this so congratulations for feeling good about yourselves while these children have strokes and are diagnosed with cancer down the road tell hsh should the Powe unified um School Board consider giving a contract to NCC the national conflict resolution center the ncrc has a board member theom that supports terrorism that supports the murder of innocent civilians and willful torture and mutilation of children purposefully in front of young children and parents the board member justifies sexual assault and murder of young girls in the name of resistance asking you dear
041board members how can the board even consider allowing NC RC to offer facilitation or Training Services to PD districts staff when ncrc trains in this District it basically communicates that this board supports terrorism in addition we have already seen how training by ncc's Dalia Barman of KC led to the spread of vulgar hateful speech in our fragile precious Community District funding should be used with other organizations that are truly worthy of providing truly supportive equality Training Services to PD staff and to continue the essential school bus services critical for students and working parents thank you for the opportunity to speak on this important subject [Applause] uh Josephine Arno I'm here to express my concern about the West viw math grading policies um I did send an email to all of the board members so I'll
042try to make it short um I do think that the West View math department grading policy where 90% of the students grade is based on assessments quizzes and tests I do think it's inconsistent with your board policy uh 5121 that's uh says that students shall have the opportunity to demonstrate Mastery of course content through a variety of methods so what sticks out to me is the shall not a May and uh that it's got to be that children have to be given a variety of methods to be able to show their learning so this hurts students the policy that Westview has 90% assess ments it hurts students like my son who just doesn't perform well on assessments tests and quizzes generally across the board he struggles he goes to his teacher and he asks what
043can I do I'm not doing well on these test and quizzes what can I do the teachers are telling him my hands are tied there are no exceptions the policy is followed very strictly at Westview he's hopeless I'm I'm starting to feel that way myself the other side it hurts the other kind of student it hurts the student that does really well on test because why should they show up why should they go through the daytoday course work homework particip the whole broad range of a math class they can just show up for the test AC sit and that is their grade I mean what is what is the policy teaching those students and what is the policy you know and the policy is harming my student so really overall this policy harms all of
044the student Tim Dockery hello good evening uh my name is Tim doerty and I a candidate for area a Schoolboard trustee last month during item 11.2 at the end of the night we heard the first discussion of the hiring of a new superintendent it's worth noting that our district board has not been very successful in selecting superintendents in the past with a record of ow and two in the past 14 years this underscores the immense importance of the task at hand which will significantly impact our district for the the next decade or more unfortunately there's no update on this matter tonight however I am hopeful that we'll have progress to report at the next meeting before the July break with subsequent updates provided monthly thereafter hopefully I would like to draw attention to board bylaw
0459000 the role of the board and board policy 2120 superintendent Recruitment and selection bylaw 9000 outlines the board's responsibilities most important of which is employing the superintendent policy 2120 emphasizes the need for quote diligent selection of a candidate whose management and Leadership abilities align closely with our District's needs policy 2120 States 12 key considerations number one reviewing the district's current and long-term needs including its vision and goals number two identifying the desired characteristics in a new superintendent and number three determining the scope of the search whether to promote internally or consider external candidates on a Statewide or Nationwide basis I don't know if I heard specifically the answer to this at last meeting in summary I just encourage the board to adhere to the policy carefully as we proceed with the superintendent selection process thank
046you for your time tonight thank [Applause] you Barbara carne inam hello I have come to the conclusion after listening to the pawe Unified School District board meetings for over 3 to four years that our kids are not mentally and emotionally safe at school because of the controversial things that are being exposed to them the school board is where policies are made that affect the well-being of our children to me that means the input of the parents is important and needs to be taken seriously when we moved here 30 years ago with school AED children PD was touted as the top District in San Diego I noted that it was very willing to listen to the concerns and recommendations of the parents and it made sense School boards that work with parents have good outcomes we
047need to work towards that goal but it won't be easy because there seems to be a movement to push ideas amongst the students that were never previously acceptable and here are the two that really concern me the first is the appearance of sexually explicit material in the library and in the classrooms it is difficult to understand why this would be acceptable in an educational setting the books have zero academic social and moral value if I were to read them to you you would squirm so why do we have them in the schools please do not ignore the harm they can cause as especially to young children schools should not be in the business of destroying children's innocence the books need to go the second idea is that of supporting gender confusion this is an issue
048for the parents to handle there is no basis for the school to interfere in this personal and complex problem if a child had a toothache the the school would not handle that they would call the parent the parent would take the child to the dentist so why does the school involve itself in the students emotional or psychological problems especially without the knowledge or consent of the parent at times it's a parent job to seek outside professional help to assist their child it's not the school's job or right to interfere especially if they're going to hide it from the parent Dan I don't have a last name just Dan hello board I'm Dan and I'm here to speak on behalf of about 60 families in our community who Express support for appointment of Dr Greg misel
049for p UniFi school superintendent role I would like to read the petition that they signed Greg Melle is currently serving as interim superintendent of P Unified School District Mr Melle stepped into the superintendent role when the district was on the brink of the losing Community Trust due to the Scandal despite this exceptionally challenging times he was able to get the district back on track during his tenure Mr maelle has demonstrated an exceptional ability to lead the district he displayed solid leadership qualities such as being approach and responsive respectful and accountable Mr Melle deeply cares about our children's education and ready to go extra mile for the community he serves we the under signed allhe heartedly support the appointment of Greg miselle as the next p Unified School District superintendent and here I have a list
050of people who signed I will send it to you [Music] later Shane hi good evening the Jewish students in the district have put up with anti-Semitism from the top in the district ethnic studies curriculum you have taught in English and Humanities and from activist teachers who harassed intimidated Jewish students after October 7th against state law as you know now I learn that PD chooses to work with a company that has a County wide known anti-semite on its board this is a little of what I mean people are occupied then resistance is Justified resistance when people are occupied becomes a human right people have the right to resist people have the right to defend their lives and the lives of their community members people have the right to defend their land their properties their their Dean
051their dignity their honor we cannot accuse somebody who is fighting for his life to be a terrorist the terrorist is the one the terrorist is the one who started the occupation in that October 20th sermon he said that Israelis are occupiers and that raping children women killing babies children civilians kidnapping Israelis is Justified you think occupiers would know about the miles of tunnels underground wouldn't you the company you pay all this money to hundreds of thousands of dollars states that its focus is innovative conflict resolution AKA I I can't even think of the name that that video upsets me so much does that board member Imam Taha Hussein of that company you hired sound like he's good at conflict resolution and Andrea Schmidt Dr Seuss got it right oh the Places You'll Go but how
052will we get there without buses oh no many General Ed buses are going away due to budget cuts that's unfortunate for parents kids and drivers alike it seems odd that pawe being one of the top-notch districts is one of the least funded districts in San Diego when I asked why our superintendent position was so highly paid yet we are the lowest paid District I was told that we needed to be competitive for the position in my opinion if we keep putting so much money toward one person then we will attract persons that want money and Prestige shouldn't we strive for someone who values are children and hardworking employees above all else not one superintendent has come into a classroom and taught a student higher math or inspired a student to achieve more no that has
053been done by the underpaid teachers and I IAS that sacrifice on The Daily the bus drivers that get up way before the sun to pick up those kids and drive double duty because we are so short staffed as Dr Seuss says I'm sorry to say but sadly it's true that bang-ups and Hang-Ups can happen to you you can get all hung up in a prickly perch and your gang will fly on you'll be left in a Lurch you'll come down from the Lurch with an unpleasant bump and the chances are then that you'll be in a slump and when you're in a slump you're not in for much fun unsl slumping yourself is not easily done so be your name buck bomb or Bix be or Bray or morai Ali van alen OA your off
054to great places today is your day your mountain is waiting so get on your way please go to Sacramento write letters fight for your District fight for us we win Awards we are worthy we are worth it I'm Andrea Schmidt a bus driver [Applause] Frank Shu hey good evening board trustees first of all please allow me to say sorry to Mr herenz I Mis pronounced your last name in last meeting but I do still believe that you probably should come back here to apologize to the public and explain why you spoke in support of Phelps last night November also I learned that former superintendent Phelps sued power UniFi School District on May 30th I recommend board chuses you all and the public to read through the 16-page complaint to say the least the basist complaint
055shows php's true color she refuses to take responsibilities for her own wrongdoings she judges people people around her by self-perceived intentions instead of facts and evidences she even condemns trustee Patel about initiating the investigation quote during November 2023 the board contracted with Dennis Oliver and Kelly and attorney Al alen wo to investigate the softball program at this time board president dasana Patel assured the petitioner that the were not looking into any wrongdoing of her but rather the softball program end quote so trustees this lady is not a role model to our students to say the least please do not Bend to her basist accusations she's terminated terminated for cause don't bring her back thank you that is all the comments at this time there are a few with different agenda items thank you Clerk kued
056and thank you to any member of the public who spoke who left space for those extra three everybody got their time so thank you for that 4.3 is our AXA Awards Association of California school administrators Awards Miss peek thank you president Conor Ratcliffe three power Unified School District administrators were named 2024 administrators of the year for region 18 of the association of California school administrators region 18 includes both San Diego and Imperial counties the administrator of the Year Awards recognized outstanding performance and achievement by individual administrators and are given at both Regional and state levels recipients of the awards are chosen based on their demonstration of exceptional leadership commitment to educational quality professional growth student achievement and display of creativity and innovation in overcoming issues facing public education we were able to celebrate our three
057winners this past weekend at the honoring our own Gayla but our Board of Education also wanted to recognize them here as well so would our interim superintendent as well as our Board of Education please join us at the front of the dis while associate superint tenant Peterson reads the description of each of our nominees or winners I should say yeah congratulations Margaret godman confidential employee of the [Applause] year Margaret is an EXT ordinary executive assistant who embodies the essence of commitment to meeting the needs of all students and schools in PD with over 11 years of service both at the school site level and District level Margaret has consistently demonstrated an unwavering work ethic remarkable organization attention to detail and a deep dedication to all she has earned a reputation for being diligent hardworking and
058instinctively attuned to the needs of students and families Margaret's most impressive qualities are her resourcefulness and her ability to organize districtwide events down to the Last Detail furthermore she goes above and beyond to help everyone she encounters creating a welcoming and supportive atmosphere thank you Margaret congratulations Ken Wall technology administrator of the [Music] Year technology leaders in education need to be strong technically while also thinking like an educator anticipating stakeholder needs in the essential task of supporting the next generation of Learners director of Information Technology Ken Wall possess es a distinctive blend of technical expertise and empathy allowing him to comprehend and meet the needs of teachers administrators staff students and parents Mr wall has worked at PD since 2013 and was promoted to director of it in 2020 the most challenging year the district
059has seen Mr wall has upgraded many of the district's aging technology infrastructure systems over his tenure and he also Fosters Innovation and creativity by exemplifying outof the-box thinking including bringing Esports to P USD thank you Ken congratulations Greg miselle student Support Services administrator of the year when Greg misel promotes PD's Mission he truly believes that the word every student should include students with disabilities and those who experience social emotional or mental health challenges his efforts have transformed the educational experience for thousands of students improving the level of support and care they and their families receive from PD from from expanded Staffing and much needed training to safety walks and Summits to Universal screenings Greg lives by the saying leadership moves at the Speed Of Trust he prioritizes visibility accessibility and is genuinely interested in knowing
060the aspirations and struggles of the people he leads and supports he and his team have worked tirelessly to make schools safer and more inclusive challenging staff to increase opportunities for students with disabilities to learn in the least restrictive environment thank you [Applause] Greg am I next and we are not done celebrating because item 4.4 is our student board member appreciation item I'll turn it over to Mr miselle well thank you so I'd like to present a final thank you and farewell to our amazing student board member nja while June 13th is her final board meeting she's graduating in two days and we want to get this in while you're still a PD student yeah so n just served faithfully and courageously in her role uh believe me this this work is isn't easy for anybody
061uh I think everyone in this room can agree that you've made quite an impact during your term as a student board member you took the time to meet with staff you made the effort to understand some of the complicated agenda items that came before us you commented thoughtfully you asked great questions you voted thoughtfully uh you advocated for student voice and participation Civic engagement you're passionate about topics like Recycling and environmental issues um and as part of the superintendent student advisory Council you helped ensure student voice was represented in our lcap survey you led the planning of our pursuing passion not Perfection conference and you impressed audiences as the student panel member sharing your thoughts advice and Reflections from your high school experience so through it all nja you have been so positive you've been
062professional you've been poised you stood firm in your beliefs and we're very proud of you uh we're going to miss you I I say that and I don't I speak on behalf of everybody at this Das and in the room we wish you all the best at Harvard um yeah oh yeah there's that we we know you're destined for great things yep and we have a small gift to commemorate your time with us [Applause] are we all going out there okay ready [Applause] two could put her sweatshirt on we've had a request to have you open up that bag and put on a new item of clothing that may or may not be in there and while she's doing that I'll call Item 4.5 this is our admir report of activities from the special education
063Community advisory committee for 20123 2024 come on down uh Mr miselle okay at this time I'd like to invite the special education Community advisory committee rosabel ab abayan and Andrea Rodriguez Chamberlain to provide their annual report of activities um actually I want to make one correction um it is Andrea chamber Rodriguez our current co-chair and our incoming for uh co-chair elect for 2024 lisis OA so I'd like to welcome them to the meeting this evening thank you we extend our gratitude to the trustees for granting us the opportunity to present the annual board report tonight before I proceed I'd like to express our appreciation to the many individuals who contribute to the success of our C business meetings each month the dedicated executive team roosevel abani and Chris coret to every subcommittee chair and member
064and the District staff who generously share their time and expertise ensuring that our meetings are productive and inclusive a special mention must be made for selfa director sty McGrath Smith and her administrative assistant Susan Cooper whose tireless efforts go above and beyond each month to get the meeting set up agendas translated and posted we simply couldn't do this work without them I also want to extend a gratitude to interim superintendent Greg miselle for your unwavering support and for granting us access to your administrative staff and to the esteemed Board of beses for your continued encouragement and graciously accepting our invitations to attend meetings each month the C remains dedicated to serving as a vital link between families and the school district for our special education Community reflecting on this past year we embrace the challenge
065of hybrid meetings with the majority of our attendees joining remotely looking ahead to the upcoming year the committee will decide on the best approach for meetings considering options such as hybrid Zoom only or blend of both our committee chairs continued to work on new and continued goals throughout the year our Communications and media subcomittee designed and distributed the CAC newsletter the 13 which went out in the fall and the spring the newsletter contains helpful resources for families and updates around the district upcoming events and much more we'll strive to have the newsletter posted quarterly in the upcoming year the community engagement committee continued to improve family engagement and transparency between the district and families in April the committee reviewed the local plan and budget as well as the lcap in May the fundraising committee chair
066Denise or Dena Harris has developed a plan for the next school year to apply for business donations for future events teacher scholarships and excellence awards this year the excellence awards Refreshments were donated by the CAC board member Andrea Roberts and her family our governance and bylaws subcommittee chair Lis OA had the privilege to attend legislation day in person with Stacy McGrath Smith this year on May 1st the purpose of the event is to educate legislators and their staff about the importance of special education and to promote for increased funding and access to services for students with disabilities Lis will share a few words about the day uh thank you Andrea um again this is Luis OA um just want to thank the members um of the school board for allowing me uh to represent the
067district in Sacramento uh legislative day is a conference brought um brings in special education leaders throughout the state California to engage directly with State lawmakers on key issues impacting students with disabilities PD Sela uh director Stacy McGrath and I had the pleasure of representing proudly representing PD um at the conference we had powerful keynote speaker motivational speakers like us Jessica Sandler um whose powerful message on how Partnerships can transform lives and we also had the Govern Governor uh Governor new's appointed um special education director Dr Rachel Heenan and uh she spoke about her vision for an equitable and inclusive special education system in California also we uh at the conference recognized the champions of special education uh semi member Gallagher was recognized for exceptional collaboration with uh seus um and then we advocated um furthermore
068for reducing stigma through bills like AB 2173 and using firstperson language um in AB 2026 um and lastly just to takeway um from the conference is that we help strengthen Partnerships throughout the state and through the local levels we also um come up with a focus agenda that increases funding and support for special education as a central theme um with a call to action for all stakeholders uh to advocate for legis ative changes and then lastly the community impact um personal stories we share personal stories uh shared by me and and other parents uh highlighted the profound impact of special education services on families and communities so it's one thing to ask for funding but also also another thing to highlight the success of special education in our students um and lastly I'll end with
069uh on my part um you know to sometimes to the world you may be one person but to that one person you are their world and that's what we think about our kles um thank you thank you L along with the district Representatives this year we continue to invite the Board of Trustees to have a rotating member give us a monthly update from the board's view on things that would be affecting our families the parent ambassadors also continue to have a voice at the table by giving updates on their successes trainings and events we hope to CL Cate next year with the parent ambassadors to present evening workshops during our business meetings the events subcommittee kicked off the year again with an inperson meet and greet at Star Ridge Park in July with jimy kids
070Who provided an obstacle course and we had eight resource tables which consisted of representatives from the Exceptional Family Resource Center California hands of voices car's parents Resource Center Mama Hughes hears San Diego Regional Center radies children's Audiology Department Autism Society of San Diego and the special needs resource Foundation of San Diego we had a great turnout and we're so thankful for the help of NCL Powe chapters amazing motherdaughter volunteers who we're looking forward to this year's upcoming meet and greet which will be held on August 9th at the same location our wellness subcommittee and events committee collaborated this year to present two hybrid parent information nights in December our parent info night focused on engaging Community Family building Community families um sorry engaging and building Community for families of children with disabilities rosabel agub bani
071and Dr Jill kulie invited a panel of parents to share their experiences during the Spring information night Dr Jill kulie licensed psychologist and Sarah vakara presented on the topic of transitions to Summer and Beyond sharing a number of great resources and strategies for supporting our neurodiverse children through transitions we had 30 attendees in person and on zoom and lastly our event subcommittee's biggest event of the year which is near and dear to all of our hearts was the Excellence and special education Awards we had a record number of 436 nominations from the community and 260 nominees this year all deserving recognition with six awardees it was wonderful to have the trustees The District staff the program Specialists and the winners families and the individual individuals who nominated them join us in celebrating their honors at
072the awards ceremony on May 21st our 2023 24 winners are Sheila Fink preschool teacher at Tira Bonita Elementary School Lam silberstein structured support teacher at Westwood Elementary Melissa Schultz education specialist at metal Brook Middle School Megan Brady inclusion specialist at Westwood Westview High Courtney ainson structured support teacher at Park Village Elementary and Angela Kennedy speech PA pathologist at Sunset Hills Elementary we're honor honor HED to recognize these amazing individuals for their dedication and going above and beyond for our students every day with that we'll conclude our board report thank you again for having us and we look forward to seeing you in the [Applause] fall thank you so much for your work and for being here tonight to let us get a big summary of it love it um item 4.6 is Common Sense Digital
073schools recognition for pawe Unified School District Miss Peterson thank you madam president the pawe Unified School District is a proud recipient of the Common Sense digital citizenship recognition this highlights our dedication to instilling safe and responsible technology practices in students this designation follows the successful implementation of Common Sense digital citizenship lessons across PD schools and over 80% of PD schools received their own Common Sense site recognition these lessons are crucial for fostering digital literacy empathy and responsible online Behavior preparing students to be worldclass Learners in an evolving digital landscape congratulations to all the teachers administrators support staff and edtech coaches who helped PD Reach This Milestone with all of the board members interim superintendent miselle director fosk and all of our edtech coaches please come to the front for a photograph and our Banner [Applause]
074presentation and Ken Wall [Applause] go back go back there go back there yeah go against the D and be in the Middle with the banner where am against the perfect back back back and then lift it up a little bit don't cover your face uh maybe yeah squeeze in yeah I don't see near or Dar so find a window find your face okay okay Michelle's SC over one D D's good over okay okay s come out a little bit and then GRE scoot in okay shall okay all right ready one two congratulations y thank you for a job well done well again congratulations I think that's the last photo of the night okay awesome that takes us to our consent calendar item 5.1 does anyone have any any items to pull yes me to pull
0755.3a 5.3 a anything else what I can't hear you anything else to pull all right is there a motion to approve the consent calendar absent 5 point 5 three I'm sorry wow 5.3 a motion to approve thank you Dr and a second by Dr Patel all in favor I that passes five nothing let's go to 5.3a somewhere around here 5.3 is approval ratification of the contractual Services report number 11 2024 um from Mr little Mr little would you like to introduce the item and then we'll call the sure the speaker thank you uh as you noted this is our monthly uh request for the board to approve Andor ratify contracts and amendments to contracts this is our 11th report of the fiscal year first speaker is L Christ thank you for pronouncing my name right
076um this past February I asked for a little insight about a 16,000 $200 contract with the national conflict resolution center at that time board members expressed no issues and Miss Peterson offered a brief description that the training was to help move through conversations and potential conflict to arrive at a positive place are you guys sure that's what this training is about the board has approved other agreements with ncrc one for 6600 and another for 9900 last year the board approved an agreement for them to provide a restorative justice practitioner at a cost not to exceed $138,400 please reconsider approving this contract to further examine action items and fiscal responsibility [Applause] Dan dear board I would like to talk about against the pl extension of contract for a national conflict resolution center and short ncrc so
077my concern is about the member of the board of this organization so I look it up and this organization and I found the individual name Imam tassan who is serving as a director of ncrc if you don't know who he is let me provide you with some context on October 21st shortly after horrendous Hamas terrorist attack on Israel in his sermon Mr Hassan expressed his support for terrorism he said that is instantly justify in referring to war crimes done by Hamas which included murder rape of Youth at age of the students and district and other atrocities on February 6 San Diego County Supervisor reappointed Mr Hassan to be member of human relation committee next day County Supervisor Tera laon rer released the following statement I was very concerned so after the meeting I search for
078the and found a full video of the remarks that were referred during the public testimony and I found Imam remarks to be truly awful and I immediately regretted the vote I made I don't support Iman tassan being on the County Human relations commission the following meeting uh whole human relation committee was suspended all of it this is example when uninformed bad decisions are made please do not make the same bad decision public Unified School District should not allow ncrc to operate in a district and have access to our kids thank you Frank sh good evening again board trustees I noticed that the law fir Atkinson Anderson lawyer rud and roma is awarded another contract of $400,000 please be reminded that this law fir is the firm who falsely protected Phelps on the first administrative complaint
079filed by the victim's family The Firm misled the board I mean you all to believe that there was nothing to look into and then wasted hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars in the following episodes as the statement read by trusty oconner rad cliff in the April 30 board meeting quote the investigation brought to light previously unknown evidence from Witnesses with direct firsthand knowledge that contradicted Dr phelp statements and assertions to the board District staff and the public unquote that fruitful investigation was done by another independent Law Firm so the question is why couldn't this Law Firm Atkinson Anderson lawyer rude and roma figure out those so-called unknown evidences did this Law Firm ever talk with those Witnesses with direct firsthand knowledge how did they get the conclusion to reject the first complaint is there any
080ethical issue besides their incompetence on the scandal please vote no on their [Applause] contract I will turn this back over to Mr little or any questions from board members I have a question concerning the number 83 on that one I know that with the budget cuss we've been very specific about keeping our counselors and our student Support Services how is what they do differently than what this group does as far as conflict Restort of justice and such is that something that our counselors are trained to be able to do so that it saves US money and also saves our own counselors positions I'm going to invite Shelley to speak to this I think she's more familiar with the contract in the service providers thank you so this is um year two of a 2-year contract
081and our national our our practitioner Eric kov he actually works with all staff members so his um the restorative justice practices which are his Focus are working with both adults and our Educators and including our counselors to help support support their understanding and support implementation of restorative justice practices across our district he also works closely with attendance and discipline and works closely with our district Equity um commit work within our Dei work and our district Equity advisory committee he recently provided a presentation for that group as well so we've already signed a two-year contract so we we're we're upholding what we are obligated toay possing forward since he been here years do our sta now have theills to keep what he's doing going and and do it the powerway way or source and take the
082basic skills and and uh so he's moving into his second year and that is our hope that this year we focus on um really Shoring up those practices and scaling the work across all of our schools are there any other questions from the board yes um I have a question um I'm hearing concerns from our community members and um to Shelly maybe do you know whether uh how many board members sit on ncrc and whether they have any direct contact or influence over the training that Eric provides to our adults our board members don't I I can't speak for the training structure of ncrc board members and whether or not they are responsible for the actual training of the restorative justice practitioners I don't I I wouldn't believe that to be a typical structure I
083have met with many members of ncrc San Diego the group we contract with and none of those that I have met with are board members they're actual n CRC practitioners and can you remind us again when you said that we're in the second year of the contract what all that 400,000 is going to it's not so this one is 142 it was a 2-year contract sorry I have the wrong yeah that's okay do you still want me to respond to that okay please thank you so for so that part of the contract essentially pays his salary so that he works exclusively within Poway Unified he has been trained at a as a restorative justice practitioner but he acts and works with our staff um through that those contracted services and it is the work that
084I just described to member kuat working with our staff our counselors throughout our schools um adults within our district around and attendance and discipline around restorative justice practices and just it's nonnegotiable at this point that's my understanding based on the two-year contract we entered into with ncrc last year I will share that I did hear Eric Ki speak um recently at The District's Equity advisory committee this gentleman is dynamic um really nothing sounded nothing like anything um that we heard from our community members who are concerned with the uh board member of the agency um he does only work with our adults not students this particular individual is outstanding that's all I can say um yeah I I heard him at the same counselor Showcase Event he introduced himself and led a very comprehensive and
085thorough um training overview of what the rant program is doing and what his his um contributions to that with the restorative practices I didn't see him having connections to the board at all just as an employee of the organization if I may I just want to to clarify he does work with students but only in the presence of our District staff um and he works closely with our district equity and Improvement director so their work is very coordinated in how they support uh the growth and development of our multi-tiered systems of support and supporting spaces that are inclusive and inviting to all students within our district and I conc um I think what you shared about Eric kov would be would be mirrored and um that sentiment would be shared by all adults who have
086had the opportunity to work with him throughout our district he is dynamic skilled intelligent and has an experience his experience lies within Elementary education what would the board like to do here Dr sitma uh just one more question do we know that the schools that he's already worked with if we're seeing positive results we are and in fact um as he works with uh in helping to scale and get systems in place so that these practices will take root we're seeing this ripple effect that he starts with teachers and Educators who are interested in implementing these practices and we're seeing that grow among staff we will really be scaling um next year as we grow the practices because this is the ideas that we can take it on ourselves and not have to continue to
087have a contract with ncrc because we will have the skills and the knowledge about how to implement in the years to come is there a motion Is there further discussion what are we interested in doing here I believe the work is excellent I'm oh miss C you the work has been excellent from this particular person clearly there's concern over a board member on the national board um I I have no knowledge of that I don't know whether that person was speaking on behalf of ncrc or on his of his own accord I don't know um I'm I'm uncomfortable suspending a in the middle of a contract that we've already signed we may be in legal trouble if we don't pay them the second half um I don't I don't know Miss G where were you
088I'm actually okay moving forward hearing about the what what we're tracking and what we we've heard from our grass groups I know this group is a very large group so the idea that one person's thoughts are going to trickle down I I feel like we're okay and he's going to be doing the right thing by us what you kind of sold me on is that he's teaching us the skills so this contract will not be renewed um so I'd really like to see us you know really kind of flag this and if some more fers want to bring it up to renew it we have a really good conversation about that because I'd like to think that our folks are wise enough to be trained in two years to be able to take this work
089on themselves especially since we have a Dei director um so that's kind of my thoughts I'm also supportive of upholding our end of a contract that's signed in place that is part of our fiduciary responsibilities here as trustees um certainly would be you know wondering what legal recourse there would be tonight is the night to make the decision I do know that there are times where there are board members that are problematic and yet the employees carry on doing a good job right we see this all the time so um I think I can disconnect this one employes work from the actions of the national board can I offer an idea and see where the board how the board feels that we might want to ask staff to look into it a little more and
090make sure that this individual that our community is concerned about is well get more information about that because if if we're going to discontinue a contract we certainly want to have information we want to let them know why we I think that's important information for us to have and a discussion for us to have with them um the very nature of this group is that we're not going to shy away from the conversation that's true do we have the time to do that I'm not looking at Ron on that one is it fine for us to take until so we could pull it and bring it back next week we could bring it back next week we probably have to bring a revised CSR uh depending how much time it takes to do the research
091that the board is asking for but it should be doable one way or the other just a thought I'm sure yeah yeah I agree with you Michelle and it says it doesn't um renew till to Y first yeah so we have the one meeting before we're delinquent in our payment okay all right can can I hear a motion of some variety here so we can close this item out I move we pull um number 83 from our Cal services for the national conflict resolution center and have staff look into the contract as well as the performance of of the individual okay want to rephrase that a little bit I I'd love you to rephrase it to say and approve the rest and approve the rest of the orders thank you and on that motion by
092Miss kuet is there a second I'll second that including and is there any further discussion no okay all in favor I I I didn't I didn't catch your vote Dr sitma okay that's 5 to nothing thank you very much we'll see that one again next week okay thank you 6.1 is a public hearing and approval of the initial proposal for contract reopener negotiations from the Board of Education to the Powe School Employees Association unit 1 for 2024 2025 Mr Jimenez thank you president OK Conor reffe on the May 9th board meeting the board approved the three-year contract with the PO School Employees Association unit 1 this is a three-year contract that expires in June 30th 2026 this item is an initial proposal for reopener negotiations in what would be year two of that three-year contract
093on the May 9th Bard meeting we presented the initial proposal from the district to PSA unit 1 for public review this evening is an opportunity for the board to open a public hearing for any public comment on the initial proposal and then to approve the recommended initial proposal on behalf of the staff thank you Mr her menz and with that I will open this public hearing at 7:42 clerk kued are there any public comments no there're not well that was easy then I will close this public here excuse me close this public hearing at 7:43 and we'll get back to the item this is a voting item since it is our second hearing on this one second read yes that's correct okay so is there a motion to approve I'll make a motion to approve
094thank you on a motion by Dr Patel second second by Dr sitma okay thank you sorry all in favor I thank you that passes unanimously five nothing 6.2 is a public hearing and approval of the initial proposal for contract reopener negotiations from the Board of Education to the Powe School Employees Association unit 2 for 2024 2025 Mr Jimenez thank you madam president our Powe School Employees Association has two units obviously this is for unit two uh this is our District's initial proposal for reopener negotiations and what would be year two of that three-year contract uh it was presented May 9th for public review and that's given a good number of weeks for the public to consider it uh this is a two step action as well meaning you can open the public hearing for any
095possible public comment and then close the hearing to then consider adoption and approval of this initial proposal the reopener initial proposals would allow both parties then to open negotiations for a limited number of Articles per the provisions of the contract for reopener negotiations thank you Mr Jimenez at this time I will open the public hearing at 7:44 clerk CET are there there are not okay I will close the public hearing at 7:44 any questions or comments discussion before all right is there a motion who won that one I wasn't paying attention all right on a motion by Dr sesman second by miss plotsky all in favor I that passes five nothing thank you 6.3 is ratification of the pawe Federation of teachers tened of agreement 2024 2025 Mr Jimenez thank you Madame President the district
096bargaining teams and the pawe Federation of teachers bargaining teams conducted interest-based problem solving negotiation sessions over the last few months on May 13th we reached agreement on a tenative agreement for the second year of the current three-year contract this was ratified by the unit members a few days ago with an overwhelming 798 votes in favor uh versus nine no votes so close to 99% approval rate the tentative agreement requires the approval of the board this evening uh these items would go into effect effective July 1 2024 um I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have but at this point it's final approval on behalf of the board thank you Mr Jimenez are there questions comments is there a motion this is popular somebody's got to actually say it though motion to approve thank
097you on a motion by Dr sitma second by second Dr Patel um before we vote I just want to thank the entire team that that was a long a long long lot of sessions by the team here and as well as pft's team I know that was a lot of hard work a lot of long conversations and hours spent so thank you to everyone involved in that thank you all in favor I all right that passes five 7.0 7.1 is the public hearing of the 2024 2025 budget a first reading Mr little I know we have quite a few public comments so if you want to introduce the item and then we'll go to our public comments sure thank you Madame President pursuant pursuant to California Ed code section 42103 this evening staff presents the
098first reading of our proposed budget for 2024 25 uh for the board's consideration and uh questions and feedback once uh we receive feedback from the board we'll bring a subsequent budget back next week for final approval I'd like to note that on a normal a normal agenda item we allow a maximum of 12 12 minutes um per agenda item we have 12 speakers on this item which puts this at 24 minutes um it appears that they are all on the same topic under the budget um I'm going to put this to the board with your consent we can change the change the time allotment to one minute per speaker so we get everything in the 12 or we can just allow all 12 speakers to go this is a big agenda item with a lot
099of impact that people have sat here for a couple of hours so I would like to hear them speak that said don't say the same thing over and over again if you could make some new points that would be awesome so um that would be my choice I'm gonna look down the road we have consent to take every speaker okay we're g to take every speaker call the first Speaker Miss kuet Heather a or ult sorry or Heather o I'm sorry thank you right the first time thank you my name is Heather a and I'm a resident of North Forest Ranch and as well as the Oak Valley Falcon Foundation president and I'm here to discuss the Oak Valley bus issue um understanding that there's been a proposal to change the eligibility from 2 miles
100to 2.5 miles or possibly eliminating the bus altogether due to budget constraints so I know that you all know about the nightmare traffic situation at Oak Valley on a daily basis and I also know that you put student safety as your highest priority that's something that you talk about over and over um as a household with two working parents I count on the bus daily to get my daughter safely to and from school um ensuring her safety and by cutting out the bus Troop that puts my you know my area at risk of this where I would then have to rely on friends and neighbors to take my child to school every single day of the year which seems overwhelming and slightly ridiculous or allow her to bike or get her an ebike as she
101so desperately wants and I don't want her to have where she would then have to travel to school crossing three major intersections with high high rate of traffic speed and regular accidents and these are Rancho Bernardo Road Camino Del nort and Camino San Bernardo um she's a 13-year-old eighth grader I can't even imagine her doing that let alone a 10 to an 11year old sixth grader who doesn't have a choice because both their parents work um so I know that you've talked about this being a budget issue but I'm begging you to put your money where your mouth as you talk about student safety please prioritize student safety by keeping the bus as is thank you very much Lauren Zimmerman good evening my name is Lauren Zimmerman I've been with the district 22 years in
102a school bus driver I have seen many changes to the transportation department budget deficits pay cuts layoffs early retirements and reduction in busing but this year it's the most serious at 50 more than 50% yes this Pro uh proposal is better than eliminating all of the gened buses but what are schools supposed to do about you know field trips okay they supposed to Charter those Tri trips are like school you know F sixth grade camp Junior Achievement Science History music Sports just to name a few okay so now I have a question for all of you are you ready okay are you ready for the angry parent calls the transportation Department's already getting are you ready for the double the foot traffic double the ebikes double uh double the the parent cars this is a
103serious problem it's a serious safety issue I even had an ebike hit my bus this year okay hit me I didn't hit her okay that was cuz there was so many kids on the sidewalk that they were spilling over into the ebike you know the bike lane and stuff like that and we were waiting to merge and you know this was at po High all right and she you know she tried to get these kids out she blew her horn blah blah blah tried to get them out of the way it didn't happen she went down on the side of my bus okay we've had other kids just crash going down esola you know one kid was seriously he pulled a shirt up but he was he was bleeding sorry okay you know the school
104bus is the safest way to get to school and from school okay that's it imagine the stress on our kids here the the world class Learners you know just trying to get to school be ready to to learn [Applause] Elizabeth Rodriguez good evening board members my name is Liz Rodriguez and I'm a resident of deler my four children are students at deler elementary and Oak Valley Middle School I'm speaking tonight because I'm upset to learn that the district is considering eliminating District run school bus transportation routes to Oak Valley which will not only affect the hundreds of students and families each year who currently rely on the school bus but the entire student body of 1500 plus students and their families I'm deeply concerned about the impact of any reduction or elimination of school bus
105transportation for several reasons the safety of our children sorry sorry I'm getting emotional the safety of our children is Paramount my family lives 2.2 miles as the crow flies from Oak Valley Middle School however the route for my 12-year-old Oak Valley student to bike or walk to school should her bus route be eliminated is over 3 and a half miles it is neither practical nor safe for a 12-year-old to bike or walk over 3 and a half miles to school furthermore the elimination of bus transportation will result in a substantial increase of Street traffic at Oak Valley I'm not going to go into that because we've already heard that um working furthermore should the bus routes be eliminated working parents will be forced to drop off and pick up their students well before and after
106school hours leaving 11 12 and 13-year-old students unsupervised on school grounds for potentially hours at a time each day finally the elimination of buest routs at Oak Valley to Oak Valley will result in A disruption of student attendance this includes increased absenteeism and decreased academic performance while the district May save money in the short term the long-term effects of students not able to attend school due to the lack of consistent reliable transportation of the district drun school bus will negatively impact the district and our students for this for these reasons I strongly urge that you maintain current District run school bus transportation throughout throughout dser and fors Ranch thank you for your time and consideration this evening Tim doy hello again my name is Tim doery it goes without saying that we are in a
107very precarious time with our budget the budget presented tonight shows a loss of $20 million this year a loss of almost $29 million next year and a loss of $38 million in the Years two years following that's an $87 million reduction of the fund and the reserve is cut by almost 2/3 the budget Solutions implemented are tough decisions and will be difficult thank you to everyone for the hard work and sacrifice a few observations and questions that I hope to hear more about tonight as we just heard the were prudent negotiations and certificated salaries are flight flat to slightly reduce for next year however I did notice that the classified salaries went the other way by over 4% is this more people or increases number two I wonder if in parallel exercising the budget from
108a bottom up zerob based approach we can be more prepared for downside risk perhaps you're already doing this but just a thought related to my last comment I wonder what the level of confidence the budget is built upon although a couple of years away a 4.4% reserve seems dangerous ly close to the level the state requires before intervention thank you again for your time and the opportunity to comment and I thank you all for the work thanks art clue thank you board members I'm here to today to express my concern regarding the proposed discontinuation of bus service um as we heard from other members or other audience members and school bus drivers uh I am also a working parent along with my wife who's a teacher in San Diego unified uh we have a schoolage
109child at uh in middle school and one in elementary school being two places at once is virtually impossible um we talked about uh the distance uh measured as the crow flies nobody flies like a crow right we all have to walk on the streets uh even though there may be Canyons not the safest way as we've as we've heard um I believe discontinuing the bus service will be financially burdensome to many families not just ours but uh other families in the audience um I ask you to please strongly reconsider your decision to eliminate bus services or any bus routes that are on the agenda thank you [Applause] Dan hello again um I'm Dan I'm parent of three kids in the district at all different grades I work full-time in normal business hours bus service is
110really something that enables my family to keep our job and all in the same time my kids to continue to be in the school district I'm sure that I'm not the only one who needs to juggle work and kids it's actually Grand majority of the parents in the district I understand that finances looks very tough for next year but we need to find another way to save and enable the bus to benefit of all our community we should spend less on the legal services or other activities that are not contributing our students academic growth or benefit all our district Community please consider the buses as a high priority than thank you y Cohen sorry arise I'm sorry Roi yes I'm sorry about that sorry hello hi um school buses are crucial for working parents who
111rely on them to transport support their children to and from school many of us chose this District specifically for its reliable bus services as taxpayers we expect Equitable access to these Services the district should reconsider allocating any further extension of the position of restorative justice Advocate at the ncrc and use it for transportation instead especially after what we heard here tonight also instead of using additional funds for recruiting a new superintendent the intern superintendent should remain in position and instead those funds should enhance transportation services ensuring our children's safety and supporting Working Families transparency and practical Solutions are essential thank you Rick Craft Rick Craft good evening my name is Rick CFT I've been a school bus driver for 19 years and just to preface this I love my job I love my kids I
112love my co-workers we work as a team together a week ago today assistant superintendent Ron little came to our busard to fill us in about proposed budget cuts and program cuts and it was very insightful we really learned a lot of good information thank you Ron for coming but I had one issue that he stated uh and that's I want to bring it up he named all of the top things that that pawe is here to support and the top two was the students and their families well it's ironic yet disturbing that the very top two factions that all are dedicated to serve are the very ones that will have the biggest negative effect due to the proposed budget cuts and busing shortages to illustrate I was a weather man in the US Navy on
113the island of Diego Garcia during the Vietnam war my job was to forecast the weather for um future for the future planes that were coming in well I'm going to use some of my Navy meteorological um training and I'm going to give you a forecast there is a storm brewing and it is heading this way in my past profession 30 years as a manager of a Food Service Corporation I am one of I am no longer in management now I am one of the worker bees the solution is in the hands of the management teams here you all need to come up with a viable solution that makes sense that's what you're getting paid for I'll close with a statement and a question to the upper management of PD to the entire PD School Board
114to the union leaders back at PSA and to the management team in the transport Elena brainstein brandstein hello last week by way of rumors we as parents understood the dist district is intending to cut bus services needless to say this decision will severely impact Working Families who rely on school transportation and it also possesses environmental and safety risk due to the increased number of cars near near the schools the district chose not to disclose a significant change to the community after looking at the budget proposal changes it's clear the district chose it it buys design as it intends to divert the money saved from cutting essential students Services as bus services to cover legal fees arising from lawsuits and er caused by the previous incompetent superintendent this move H not only demonstrate a lack of
115transparency but also shows the total disregard of the district towards the students and their families the district should closely look at the spending for example support for external controversial groups as ncrc and should promote a superintendent from within the district instead of cutting services or asking for new bonds thank you Jennifer Gutierrez hi good evening I'm here to well first of all kudos to the bus drivers Andrea Shu summed it up very well her and Dr Seuss with their sense of humor the the bus drivers have a great sense of humor and are spoton and sum it up very well um I second what sue a said I'm also a parent of a student at Oak Valley and now um I am going to piggyback on what many people have said but I also have
116something new to add um I'm a single mom and the sole caretaker for my son I work 30 miles and approximately and drive approximately 35 to 40 minutes away to another school district if I had to drive drop him off he would be waiting outside for 45 minutes in the cold in front of the school with no supervision the other alternative is I'm late to work and would lose my job unfortunately I am not in a position that I can share or provide a carpool with other parents due to my work schedule nor do I have family members close by that can drive him so I guess I would have to offer there's a neighbor that when he's been late for the bus I've called her texted her and he's tagged along and now I'm
117going to have to offer to pay her if she can um let my son ride with them every single day 180 days um my son he's on an IEP and has anxiety about going to school um he has a negative attitude towards School therefore making it a negative attitude to go to school taking the however taking the bus Every Morning has been a great way for him to ease into the school day he sits with a friend and is able to talk and relax before the busyness of the school day he gets to the cafeteria when it opens so he has time to eat breakfast and not waste time waiting in line or worrying about being late to class from a social emotional a mental health standpoint the bus has been our Saving Grace and
118it helps it makes it manageable for my son to go to school every day it eases his anxiety about going to school he has a schedule and routine he follows every morning in order to make it to the bus on time ironically he doesn't want to be late and miss the bus even though he doesn't like going to school um I know if he had to get in the car with okay I'm sorry thank you I gotta move on to the next person I apologize Katherine [Applause] Matthews hello I'm also a parent of an Oak Valley student and also a prior Oak Valley student uh she took the bus my son currently takes the bus it's a great opportunity for them to get independence and they are in charge of getting themselves to school instead
119of angry parents waiting in line and I can tell you from our community and delsa all the people that do Drive their kids bless their souls uh talk about all the double parking talk about all the ebikes and bikers weaving in and out of the double parked cars to get to school and that's before we get rid of the buses so if we turn the the uh as the crow flies radius from 2 miles to 2 and a half miles it takes out our whole Community all of deler and I looked it up um I'm this is an estimate because I'm not on your shoes but from what I can see there are currently seven buses that go to Oak Valley if there are two per seat that's 48 kids per bus which means approximately
120340 kids that will now have to be driven by their parents if they can and if they're not not driven by their parents their parents are going to be taking them to a different school which means you're going to have less money for your school uh I strongly advise that you look at other options so what I said to my friends when I decided I was going to speak was you can't come to the board and complain without suggesting Solutions so here are my solution or my suggested Solutions I have no idea if they're possible first of all my son brings home two school books at the beginning of the school year they sat in a cabinet they never were used his backpack is currently very very heavy he walks to school like this to
121the bus I should say why do we why do we not get rid of these textbooks we have everything online anyway why don't we get rid of the textbooks from what I read in the in the budget it says school books um were $5 million in the budget so that's that's uh onethird of the $15 million you're trying to get rid of what about school laptops many of the parents say they would pay for their kids school laptops what about thank you all right that's all that's everybody I guess then um thank you for your comments at this time I'm going to turn it over to Mr little yes thank you who hopefully will address some of those we will we will definitely touch on on some of those points uh let's see where to
122start thank you again Madame President uh again this is the first reading of the budget uh again to solicit feedback from the board and see in which directions you want to go as we develop the budget and finalize it for adoption next week you'll remember that by Statute we're required to adopt a budget by June 15th of each year and submit it to the San Diego County Department of Education before we begin with the slide show please come up I'd just like to invite executive director romiro and our finance director uh Mr gero who are going to help with the presentation I'd also at this time like to thank the finance team for all its hard work and due diligence in putting together such a complex budget uh and the associated documents uh that were
123with the board packet so we look forward to sharing it with you this morning next slide please this evening sorry wow so here's here are topics that that we're going to be covering this evening uh we're going to try to move very quickly through uh the first two and spend our time in uh the power Unified School budgets next please before we get started just a few reminders uh we did post the budget publicly on our website so it was there since May 30th I believe that was last week uh the electronic standard account code structure are the Sachs forms that we must must submit to the state have also been uploaded uh to our website uh we have a 14 page multi-year page projection multi-year projections which we attached to the Green Sheet which
124was also public uh when we posted uh the agenda and again just a reminder this is a first reading only next slide please so let's begin with a brief overview of the State of the State budget next slide please so this is a 30-year look at Trends related to California's big three revenues you'll recall that those big three revenues are personal income tax corporate tax and sales and use tax and you can see a nice ascending graph which peaks in 2122 at 215 billion worth of revenues then you'll note in the very next year uh the graph plunges by 21% to $170 billion again in one year's time much of this of course has to do with the lag effect of the covid pandemic and its effect its impacts on the California economy as well
125as the postponement of the income tax deadlines by the state among other fiscal factors next slide please not only is there a substantial Challenge on the state revenue Vue side of the equation but because the Department of Finance and the governor's team misestimated future tax receipts the state built budgets wherein expenditures would ultimately exceed available resources sometimes substantially you'll note here uh just by way of comparison so the purple L the purple line on the top is the Department of finances estimates with respect to revenues a year ago so June of 2023 the orange line is their revised estimates of revenues in January of 20124 that the governor uh put in his budget of January and finally the green line at the bottom of the graph represents their latest revi revisions of receipts uh released
126last month with the governor's May revise if you were just look at the numbers for 2223 that's like a 15% difference with respect to estimated revenues uh in that year from a year-over-year perspective and this year we're looking at somewhere about a 10% Varian so big numbers next slide please as a result and based on the current fiscal data which the governor's team has now put into his uh curric his uh formulations in his May revised last month the governor calculated a nearly $45 billion budget deficit uh which he's calling a budget problem this comes right from his budget that's the 37.9 billion plus the 7 billion so $45 billion budget problem over the three-year budget period that is the way California budgets in mid April the California legislature had passed AB 106 the early
127action budget package to their credit so they were trying to get ahead of the problem and they came up with $17 billion worth of solutions to solve the $45 billion problem next slide please the primary piece of that legislation that impacts K12 districts is the delay in quotes uh in TK and full Kinder full day kindergarten facilities grants so as you know one of the underfunded mandates that the governor has put on school districts is the expansion of transitional kindergarten without uh appropriate resources to help us repurpose classrooms to accommodate those little kiddos right so they need restrooms in every classroom they need some space uh for storage classrooms etc etc so this money will go away uh under his proposal or be delayed uh for who knows how long so that left a state
128budget deficit of approximately $28 billion by his own math to resolve next slide please and obviously there's a lot of factors that play into an economy the size of California's I'm not going to read them all to you but these are some uh that uh our experts School Services of California have identified uh as watching out for over the next year or so next slide please so let's turn our attention now to the governor's May Revis budget and what he provides for schools via prop 98 next slide please these are some comments from Kevin Gordon president of Capital Advisors group who has presented to our board a couple of times uh regarding the governor's budget I'm just going to highlight a few so the first one uh despite dramatic decline in revenues over the past
129two years which we just reviewed the governor is going to propose he has proposed uh protecting all education sectors within the state as well as provide a 1.0% cola and we're going to look at the cola a little bit later uh number two Governor proposes significant reductions to all the other state agencies which we're going to see the nonpr 98 side of the budget uh particularly one-time funds which require negotiate and compromise uh with the legislators uh and Sacramento and finally the last bullet point I think is worth noting spending down so part of his budget solution is spending down the reserves just like we're going to propose this year spending down prop 98 reserves to avoid budget year cuts Revenue growth will be needed over the next couple years to maintain existing programs so
130Revenue growth uh will need to be uh maintained uh to sustain current programs next slide please this is the governor's this again directly from the government's Governor's budget sorry uh this slide obviously tells a story you can see the second column the 20242 budget that's what he's closing for next year it's about if you go all the way down there it's about a $21 billion budget for next year you can see that in the current year 2324 we're at $226 billion so that's a reduction of about call it $25 billion or 11% year-over-year so the government in his own budget is reducing the state budget by 11% of course you can see by the very last column that's that's not uh equitably sort of discharged right so reductions in all other agencies other than education
131range anywhere from 3% uh to 78% right so fortunately K12 education is protected as is higher education uh and you can see there's a slight increase proposed and again I should say this is just the governor's proposal So currently the legislature in California is negotiating with the governor uh around all these numbers and all his expectations next slide please so even though k12's have been spared reductions in the budget for 2425 when the Department of Finance which is the governor's Finance team when they re bench the prop 98 based which they need to do by law for the three-year budget period Visa lack lackluster State revenues school districts actually actually come out behind and this is particularly because of year 20 2 23 so last year once we re benched the prop 988 base based
132on the actual revenues that were realized what was proposed last year in terms of prop 98 resources goes down by almost you can see there1 billion well problem is that money has already been allocated to schools so how do we get that money back question mark that's a question that the state legislators currently are discussing with the governor who came up with his own uh method for getting that money back which I'm not going to go into uh cuz it's it's messy and it's uh it's complicated next slide please but here's the maneuver uh you can read on it basically if you look at that third bullet point he was basically going to say well we're going to pay you back $1.8 billion uh we're going to take $1.8 billion from you for the next
1335 years uh with respect to your prop 98 funding so uh we're going to reduce the base incrementally over a 5-year period so that we can be legal and repay you so you repay us what you owed us from last fiscal year next slide please so one would think that a relatively flat state budget with respect to schools would be a good thing however in reality the state will lack the resources necessary to fund K2 12 adequately which of course being that power unified is one of the lowest funded unified school districts in the county means that we're again not adequately funded uh next fiscal year uh what makes it more difficult of course is that the state without the resources cannot uh continue to extend the covid relief Ada funding where we could take
134an average of our average daily attendance next year we go to actual kids in the seat that's going to be an imp a big impact and an emic Cola you can see on this slide that when we started developing this budget a year ago uh the governor's team at the time had said that this year's Cola for 2425 would be worth 3.94% if you look down below the graph there you can see that TOA unified that 3.94% Cola was worth $15.4 million in December of that same year the Lao revised the cola Outlook to 1.27% so now that same Cola is only worth 4 let's call it $5 million uh to power unified so in that six-month period we lost $10 million of ongoing money uh each year the governor's budget in January reduced the
135cola even further to 76% we lost another2 million and finally in the May revise uh the statutory Cola is calculated at 1.07% so we gained a little bit back but you can see over that one-ear period we were building we were planning on $15 million of ongoing revenues every year just for this Cola increase and we'll realize something more like $4 million so a loss of $1 million uh each year so that complicates things as well as uh our declining enrollment uh and uh our attendance rates which have been fairly flat over the past uh couple years uh since covid next slide please as we mentioned the California legislature and the budget and the governor are negotiating uh his proposal uh and these are just some of the risks that again School Services uh sort
136of call out uh with respect to next couple of weeks all right next slide please so uh as I mentioned we've included a 14 page detailed budget document as part of this agenda item it delineates all of our fiscal assumptions for next year but over the next few slides uh we're just going to share the highlevel highlights of these fiscal assumptions next slide please so when we were looking ahead someone mentioned it already I think one of our our commenters when we were looking ahead to next year's budget at second interim we had already identified a $28 million budget gap of our own for all those reasons we noted earlier and the sun setting of onetime Co funding that we had received a few years ago next slide please $28 million represents about 5 a
137half% of our projected 2425 general fund budget next year so obviously resolving a $28 million budget Gap in a budget that is 85% people in one year's time would have resulted in some substantial redu reductions to both programs and staff so rather staff cabinet proposed at a February 2024 board budget Workshop to attempt solving resolving half of the Gap and we set $15 million as you see here on the slide as our goal uh this year and use reserves to uh cover the remaining 13 million this year uh and then Focus next year on covering the difference probably somewhere in the neighborhood of another $15 million as you can see on this slide uh the fact that some reductions or Solutions are ongoing and some are one time right complicate things uh because ongoing reductions
138are worth $2 next year and onetime reductions are worth $1 next year so that's part of the uh math that we do as we're trying to balance the budget and look towards the most effective way to to uh to create solutions that are not going to impact uh students uh uh more than they have to next slide please so staff presented numerous ideas to the board at the February budget board workshop and we see we received Direction uh from the board loud and clear as well at that meeting consequently after many months of due diligence uh and hard work by District leadership this is the list of budget solutions that we landed on and as I already mentioned it's a mix of one-time funding I'm sorry one-time Solutions and ongoing Solutions we note those there
139uh I'm not going to go through all of these uh but um wherever possible we we tried to take advantage of attrition so as staff either resigned or moved on to other districts or retired uh we looked at uh whether or not those positions uh could be frozen or not filled and uh I believe we had four psychologists for example on the list who uh resigned and so we decided not to fill those four positions uh without any impact to current staff busting of course is at the top of the list uh because simply by sheer magnitude of um of the reduction I'm happy to answer any questions about any specific line item later in the presentation next slide please in performing this work so in performing the work of creating the budget Solutions we
140divided potential budget Solutions into three tiers tier one Solutions were meant to be the farthest from the classrooms they total approximately $8 million in reductions for 2425 this is our attempt to sort of uh laying them out on a spectrum of district office hits to uh those reductions that are closer to schools classrooms and the students next slide please tier 2 Solutions were closer to the classroom although we attempted to minimize impacts to students so for example uh we have on this slide eliminate the exploration program it's true that program will be eliminated uh the flip side of that coin is however that we're creating a new elementary school vapa program that will actually be more expansive in arts education than uh the exploration program that is being eliminated so again tier 2 we were
141trying to figure out ways that we could make some targeted reductions to high cost programs for example like connect academy uh while maintaining the Integrity of the program and the exceptional uh quality that those programs delivered to our students so if you look at this the tier tws were $4.5 million approximately in savings so if you add the tier one and the tier two we're at $ 12.5 million of proposed solution so that means we didn't even get to our $15 million which was our goal right so that's another $2.5 million that will need to be solved next year uh if we don't solve it this year tier three solutions only because I mentioned it uh they focused primarily on negotiable items such as class sizes across our district and at this point we have
142no savings or reductions uh proposed in those areas next slide please so I did want to obviously spend some time giving the public comment on the busing uh so this year we provided busing services to approximately 3,100 students of those we were legally obligated to provide busing to less than 700 students so those are what we call mandated services that means that approximately 2400 of our PA Unified School District students received non-mandated non-obligatory busing Services coupled with the fact that uh on average we were 30% fewer in bus drivers than we should have been so we have about 100 bus drivers in any given day we were we had 30 vacancies that we were still trying to recruit right so given that reality uh many of those students who receiving our mandated Services who by
143law we have to get to school uh we being taken to school and delivered to school delivered is not a good word uh but taken to school and they would get to school late consistently so at the February board Workshop we proposed three different busing scenarios and I apologize for indulging but I want to go through this with a little bit of detail uh so in February we proposed three scenarios uh scenario one one of the scenarios actually looked at what it would cost uh to make our general Ed our non-mandated busting Services cost neutral so right now for all those 2100 students uh that we provide services to their school via the bus um we subsidizing them even though legally we're not mandated to provide them the services and we're subsidizing to the tune
144of over 50% so uh we figure that costs about a little over $1,500 per student per General ed student uh to bust them to school and right now as you can see on our slide our bus fees are $725 so one of our proposals was well let's make it cost neutral and then those students who are receiving the non-mandated services will pay for the service uh fully uh and then we'll be closer to a $1,500 uh bus fee so that was one of the snares that we shared uh with the board among others uh what we heard at that meeting was obviously that would be a significant fiscal impact to our families so uh team go back and try for a couple more scenarios so we did we developed two additional scenarios and where we
145landed was on scenario five uh that as was noted already reduces the number of our general Ed routes uh which be the non-mandated services from 25 to 11 right uh we're going to increase in this model uh our routes for our mandated services from 69 to 72 that doesn't sound like a lot but it it makes a big difference when you're putting 8 to 10 to 12 students on a bus to get them to school on time we're also going to uh remember there's 30 vacancies right so uh this is not going to impact current drivers with respect to jobs right we're just going to be reducing the number of vacancies that we have on the books uh reducing the number of routes that our drivers will have the responsibility for uh and have less
146tension trying to get all of our kids to school on time we're also going to add five Flex drivers uh which would be full-time positions that allow us the flexibility to jump into either route mandated or non-mandated as well as field trips uh and other services uh that we offer to our schools and our students in addition to the numbers that you see on the screen we also have worked with psca uh and and Mr jimenz and his team with respect to uh developing a recruitment bonus uh for new drivers uh as well as some training bonuses again to try to uh to retain and attract uh more Dr more bus drivers so that we can fill uh those vacancies I think that we won't know the impact with respect to the routes uh until
147July uh given that at that point we'll know which kids are in which zones Etc Etc but I did ask director Lauder to come and he's here this evening and he can certainly address any more specific questions uh that the board may have all right so next slide please so that's that's sort of just the uh Prelude unfortunately uh again I apologize for the length uh to our own budget uh so we got to 122.5 million of solutions we wanted 15 uh as you noted many of those Solutions were one time those will not help necessarily with the outgoing years but executive director Ramiro is going to walk us through our own proposed budget for next year thank you associate superintendent L good evening board president Corner rli members of the board and cabinet um
148before I begin I also want to um acknowledge all the hard work of our finance team and all the Departments uh budget administrators who spent a lot of hours helping us building this uh budget for the coming school year 2024 2025 so this section of the presentation um we'll go over the district's proposed budget and this is based on the May revised assumptions and including uh the budget solutions that uh was shared by associate superintendent Le next slide please so starting with the general fund unrestricted our local control funding formula or lcff is projected almost 397 million the overall total projected revenues net of this 74.8 million in other sources is 347.50 million for um everyone's information the negative in other sources is due to the 84.9 million of contribution to the restricted general fund
149the total projected expenditures including other outgo is 361 million and this expenditures budget include the step and column increases longevity adjustments the projected increase for Health and Welfare Pur rate increase and again all the budget Solutions identified so after all the just ments and implementing the budget Solutions we are projecting a deficit spending of almost 13.4 million in the unrestricted general fund next slide please on the restricted side the total revenues and other sources is 168.75 n million is the contribution coming from the unrestricted general fund as you know the contribution is to support mainly two programs first R and restricted maintenance account uh with zero funding coming from the state but we are required to deposit to the account at least equivalent to 3% of the total combined general fund expenditures and other outgo
150for pawe this is between 15.5 to 15.8 Mill million and second uh we have to support also special ed program because we are not fully funded by the state to run our special ed program so that is a total of 84.9 million coming from unrestricted to restricted the budgeted expenditures in the reg in the restricted general fund is over 1884 million it is 15.4 million higher than the available funds we are spending down the one-time categorical grants the carry over as part of the budget plan so bottom line you will see a deficit spending of 15.4 million in the restricted next slide please so here's the combined general fund numbers uh the total deficit spending in the combined general fund uh is 28.8 Mill million and this is the amount of reduction you will see
151in the as a reduction to our general fund beginning balance next slide please on this chart we are outlining the general fund combined revenues showing the breakdown of the district sources of funding by Major category so you will see 79% of the overall general fund revenues is generated by local control funding formula the district's main source of funding and 16% from other state this is the funding we get for lottery mandated backround uh the transportation reimbursement for ab1 181 also the ab 602 funding for special ed is included in this 16% and those are the major uh State funding that we're getting the remaining 5% of our uh total combined general fund revenues um are federal and local revenues so Federal these are all the title grants Title One title two all those grants and
152for local um the use of facilities uh Asus is also included in the local and um the interest income that um um we earned from the count treasury so overall total of 56.2 million in the general fund combined revenues next slide please so this pie chart um is for expenditures um you will see the L the largest share of the combined general fund budgeted expenditures is for salaries and benefits equivalent to 87% % of our overall total combined general fund expenditures the remaining 13% of the budget is for other operational costs 8% of this 133% is for services which will include the funding for the cost of like non-public agency and nonpublic uh non-public schools services for our students with special needs uh this is approximately 9 million for pawe also included in the services
153budget is funding to pay for all the district's utilities including uh electricity gas water um phone lines internet and that's almost million plus also we have the ongoing online subscriptions technology licenses and other maintenance services included in this 8% which is equivalent to 42.3 million the remaining 5% of the expenditures budget are for supplies textbooks for adoptions Chromebooks and Equipment replacement we also have here the capital outlay budgeted using the onetime Arts music instructional materials Block Run for the vapa and the site safety projects as part of the budget plan overall total expenditures in the general fund combined of 541.401 million this is after the 28.8 million um def OS it spending or the negative net activity our total Reserve including fund 17 is 50 million which is equivalent to 99.3% included in the 76.3
154ending fund balance are the carryovers for restricted categorical programs and the estimated sites carry over next slide please so in this slide um where providing breakdown of all the carryovers so 3.1 million projected for sites and an additional 1.4 for other departmental and program carryovers total of 4.5 million in the unrestricted general fund and here's the list of the restricted carryovers by um programs a total of 21.4 million next slide please so the district's unassigned and assigned fund balance is projected above the recommended reserve for economic uncertainties for pawe the state recommended reserve for economic uncertainties is 2% and since our Reserve level is at 99.3% this slide is to provide uh breakdown and reasons of the excess minimum Reserve so we have fund 177 fund balance resered for technology and infrastructure projects and for
155fund1 the excess in reserve is for Budget stabilization so next we have director gorola to go over the district's multi-year projections thank you thank you executive director rido next slide please good evening Madam president president board members cabinet interim superintendent miselle we're now going to be reviewing our multi-year projections which includes our 2425 proposed budget and our 2526 and 2627 projected budgets uh these assumptions are based on uh the governor's May revise and may slightly change when his final budget bills passed June 15th uh briefly go over the assumptions you can see enrollment is projected to remain static we're projecting our attendance rate to slightly increase in the out years to to 96% uh we're currently at 94.5 in the current year so we're on track to uh increasing our attendance uh you'll see that
156our funded a uh Ada will take a slight dip uh in 2526 and then increase slightly in the out years uh funded Cola as Mr little went over um in detail earlier one 07 current year uh gradual increases in the out years hopefully those will stick uh those are still projections and as we've learned this year they are very rough projections uh up unduplicated pupil count projected to remain static as is Stir contributions uh you'll see we are having an increase in pers contributions um we're currently at 26.68% to 28% by 2627 and so these these assumptions are all Incorporated and built into the uh multi the projections you're going to see on your next slide and so now we'll review the general funds projected ending balance uh net activity and Reserve percentages uh so
157we're going to focus on the net activity unrestricted uh 20 for the 2425 budget years as we went over in detail currently projected at a negative net net activity of 13.4 million uh moving over to 2526 14.7 million and 2627 we're projecting a negative net activity of 11.4 million uh this net activity is going to reduce our ending balance from 76 million in 2425 to a little bit under 50 million in 2526 and then down to 38 million in 2627 uh the impact on our Reser Reserve percentage we're at a healthy Reserve right now for 2425 99.3% and decreasing to 6.4% and and finally 4.4% in 26 27 again based on our current Cola projections which um are still very conservative and hopefully they don't reduce further and next slide please here we are um
158we are showing our um average State Reserve levels for unified school districts and we're there you we missing a row yes there we go threw me off okay uh so uh we're comparing to the first row unified school districts as you can see um pawe Unified School District's um Reserve percentage has been significantly lower than the Statewide average um mostly due to uh pwe does not receive concentration funding or the multi um Equity multiplier for lcff um but we have maintained a reserve a healthy Reserve balance from 8 to 11% historically next slide and next steps would be any questions feedback we'll make any necessary changes on post these changes to um online by June 7th at our next board meeting we'll be reviewing other funds and hopefully approving our um final budget and then
159we'll be all waiting for the state's final budget Bill June 15 thank you very thank you very very much for the presentation there's a lot here I'm needing a break definitely but we're going to we're going to stick with this and take a break out after um questions for Mr or our panelists I'm going to call you panelists today at the table yeah who wants to start this baby off all right Dr pel happy to started off uh thank you very much for the thorough presentation it was very full very detailed um and I I just saw the slide deck like yesterday so didn't get a chance to review any of it before you presented it tonight so still absorbing a lot of it um just to start the discussion on the buses you have
160heard me time and time again um sharing a lot of the same concerns my children don't ride the buses but a lot of our friends families neighbors connections throughout the community depend on school buses to get to school for not just the reasons the community members have said but many others as well I think some of the reasons I've stated multiple times before is the ebikes definitely concern me ebike use will go up they're very dangerous and I know we're working on training for our students so that they could be um licensed to ride their bikes to schools but still there's lots of concerns especially with the Middle School set concerns around um our Ada is already struggling I believe I had asked at a previous meeting to get some kind of analysis on you
161know the trade-off between Ada loss and the savings by cutting busing um we we didn't get any information on that I know there's still time to get that so this is a first reading um I would ALS also like to pressure test what our community can pay in fees and I don't know what that looks like right now but I'm wondering you know the community members I of course have been thinking about what does as the crow flies means it's not the actual distance our children are riding to get to school we know that um and increasing that radius really does change for a variety of residents in our community what that actual distance looks like freeway Crossing under over freeways um you know things that we really don't want our youngest kids who have
162to get to Middle School to have to do so lots of concerns there um I have heard through conversations with interim superintendent miselle that there may be opportunity for a community survey or something like that on the busing I would like to see the outcome of that before we finalize this decision um I know that's going to be tough because we have to approve this budget but perhaps there's wiggle room to look at that you know based on what the governor is actually giving us we know sorry I have a lot of thoughts we know that um the cola that they're offering us doesn't really meet with our increasing costs right we have step in column we we're we have obligations no matter what there's inflation increasing cost of services yet we're only given Cola
163and even that is very minimal so when we say it's a flat budget it's actually a negative budget right so but the busing is definitely a big challenge for me because I I can see a lot of disconnected impacts but directly relating to our families and I I have expressed this multiple times before I fought at the state level to get our reimbursement rates up to 60% but we still can't hire our bus drivers right because it's expensive to live in this community so it just a lot of thoughts going through our head I would love for us to have more conversations with our community I don't know that there was a question there actually but I'm it was basically a rant when when or will we when will we know which which bus routes
164are proposed for cuts even because to my knowledge that is not out there in the world there are a lot of assumptions about what that is but I had not heard what they were it's true there there are a lot of assumptions but I'm going to ask director Lauder to come up uh and perhaps speak to when we will know and why it is we won't know until when we will know sorry good evening Madame President members of the board cabinet um the reason it won't be we'll only know those the which routes have been eliminated um somewhere in July uh because those routes are still being worked on the whole the the dispatches and schedules are still working on those items so um as soon as we know that um and it's like this
165every year as soon as we know that those those routes will be posted um Aurora is there anything El see there no because the the actual excuse me the actual route reduction from 25 General Ed routes to 11 can only really be finalized once we know the student attendance for each school because the where the routes will be placed is determined by where those students live relative to um both existing and proposed transportable boundaries and we never we don't get that information until after July 1 well I would think you'd have some historical data um because you have kind of the same amount of kids eighth graders leave sixth graders come in you know I think Oak Valley is probably right now from what we've heard very impacted and and I have to agree I
166think as crow flies is kind of a silly way to expand it you kind of need to draw some lines to say okay if it takes you three miles to get to school or whatever I'm totally agree with that um but how the information was disseminated to the Oak Valley parents I think is really unfortunate right now because um how do we get back any of their trust so they can start planning and to come out the end of July when school starts the middle of August it's going to directly impact in two weeks they got to figure out what to do um so well you can clap but I don't have a solution um you know so I think this is really important to get in front of and and to and to really
167be careful what information leaks out until we really have a handle on it because there's a lot of fear out there and I think that most of us want to do what's best for our families and if we have some wiggle room you know I think I've been frustrated a bit with Transportation because we're not doing it well in fact that with as far as how late our kids are and such like that so I'd rather do it smaller and Tighter and successfully but we need to make sure that we are able to to get the kids there safely and like I said I'm an ebike Horror Story too so I really don't want to encourage that so I don't know what creatively we can do if we can make Roots longer if we start
168a little earlier just how how can we accommodate this better and I did want to speak to the one person who said that now we don't we won't have bus drivers for field trips I think actually this will free up more for field trips and more for after school sport so so that is a positive I think in that way that I do you know there's a lot there's a lot to this and I know you guys deal with that puzzle so again I'm I'm going on a rant like poor Dr Patel did um because I know it's not easy but I just feel like we need to do it better if I may uh I'm trying to think which comment I want to respond to here the fact that so the fact that we
169don't do it well is exactly sort of What scenario 5 addresses and while it's not ideal we could certainly charge our our families you know more of the of what it costs to transport their students but this time next year if we don't have 30 more drivers we'll still have the same challenges getting our students who deserve and receive mandated services to school on time so so that's why we're not doing it well is because we're short 30 bus drivers and we're serving uh many students who you know as I said were not mandated to but I certainly understand your your points and they're well taken I just want to clarify that right now it's Oak Valley families but that as the crow flies radius change will impact other schools as well it's not just
170Oak Valley so you know % ofs how are the kids get tool so I know there's a long-term possibility that obviously doesn't help us but the long-term work that we've been doing trying to consolidate and eliminate some of the mandated routes by making sure students are attending their home schools and making sure the inclusive practices are there and that they can access the programs they need at their home school but that takes time and we have been working on it I know but it's unacceptable and in fact I mean I'm just going to say it illegal for us not to get them to school on time we must do that I'm talking about the mandated the mandated routes for sure so when we don't have enough drivers we really don't have a choice at this
171point we keep working on the mandated routes we keep working on getting more drivers hired but it's not an immediate fix it takes time and finding figuring out what to do here we we we're trying to keep cuts from classrooms and by that frankly we mean we're not raising class sizes next year at least um there's a lot of money out there on the table for class sizes we were not willing to do that this year um there's a lot of money on the table cutting people we did not do that this year um there are places we can get substantial savings but are they preferable I don't know to some people obviously they will be preferable but we have a lot of our community members who weighed in on this and we as a
172board at least when we talked about this initially we tried to preserve the highest rated Community concerns and that was at least in our most recent it was about class sizes it was about our employees keeping their positions it was about um mental health and wellness for our students um we have managed to preserve all or nearly all of those and there are hard decisions and and there's not an easy I I think every person out there has something to be concerned about absolutely there are no easy solutions here and if we even if we raised that the bus pass rate to I think you said $1,500 I would I would guess that many of our Riders would not be able to afford it um and would choose not to ride the buses but even
173if we were to fully fund our buses we still don't have the drivers we we solve one problem but continue to have another one so I I'm going to stop now I don't I am I'm just restating the problem a different way so I have a question why is it was it still not negotiated with PCA that federally mandated students are not the first to get bus drivers I it just amazes me that that is not something that's required I have a student that gets picked up on a weekly basis more than three times a week 45 minutes to an hour and a half late every day he is mandated I have two other students I'm paying $1,500 a week for and they're only picked up 5 to 10 minutes late why was why is
174this not legally a legal issue why is this not directed I'll speak to and Mr Jimenez can add to it but we inherited the current contract uh with psca uh we this work we've been doing over the past uh couple years uh with respect to looking at that particular language and also looking at the language around the bidding process uh that Transportation does each year so we are in active talks with PSA about uh uh fixing that piece of the contract moving forward and I think we're making progress I think we're just not there yet but certainly it's a focus of ours and we continue to work on it uh I think think we're creating an ad hoc task force right uh with bus drivers and others also to to look at that piece about
175the the bidding and the selection and you know how the services should be provided to those who need it first uh to your point and then all others after so we're making progress but we're not there yet and it's in the contract this is a short answer I'm gonna move on from bu's I'm sorry um it was slide I think it was slide 19 where it talks about um uh yeah 19 where it's what we are getting rid of what we're expecting for the deficit and um I add it up and the projected deficit is $87 million and after three years we're at $75 million and I hate to say it but I think we're kind of Lucky to think that it's not going to get even worse from the state um so as we
176look at the CATE years of 24 and 25 million I'm afraid it's going to be 30 million 35 million because they're being really creative this year for their budget I can only imagine how creative they're going to be in subsequent years um so we're we're not catching up um which is very frightening when you look at what kind of deficit we're doing um I had asked and I was wondering if there's a way of looking it what was our staff to student ratio back in like 03 I mean I'm not I'm putting I'm not putting you on the spot on that one but you know just as far as what do you look what does it look like when we were I because I don't want to look at when we had the major budget
177issues which is what 06 to what 12 we can't look at that we can't really look at covid time so where when were we like a healthy district and what was that ratio you're laughing but we were healthy back then yet you were in school back then what year did you graduate I'm sorry I'm the old one up here so but I'm just saying is what when when when when what did we have a better sizing you know as we look at this because in three years this is we have to plan ahead for this and we don't want to just shock everybody all at once and and uh it's very frightening to see this and this is not what I we worked really hard to get a 10% reserve and to see this go
178away again is is really sad and you know and this and seeing these numbers that's takes in that the coal is going to go up a percent a year which I don't think might happen either so I'm sorry I'm the Barry are bad news but it's really late and I'm tired um I just if I could just say a couple things remember well there was a different funding model uh in those good years right and uh for better for worse pawe UniFi did better under the last Model than we do under this model the second point you make is correct I think I agree 100% is as Mr Guerero mentioned they colas for the out years are at this point rather Rosy so uh but we didn't want to be totally Doom and Gloom so
179we try to and it is what the school services are projecting so we're using their dart board and it's actually their colon numbers at this point so uh but I I agree with you I doubt that we're going to see three plus Cola next year when this year is only 1% It doesn't even make sense from an economic standpoint so I think what that means is next year will be right even more of this kind of thing I'm happy to be Doom and Gloom I have a feeling we're going to have deferrals and some prop 98 Maneuvers and I I hear all these things in the budget talks and um and then if they do these but prop 98 Maneuvers that means prop 98 does get re benched lower effectively and so that is deeply
180problematic going forward so yes I understand that I'm complaining about bus is but that there's a bigger problem looming ahead as well so I I recognize my own cognitive disconnect in this whole thing and my larger concern is what happens when we have a major accident at a school or a con as in a construction issue that we don't have facilities issue where we don't have the funds in the uh Reserve question We're not gonna have it did we did talk about certificates of participation is that what they're called yes borrowing money yeah which is a fancy word borrowing money which encumbers general fund money which means that we can't budget that general fund money going forward and and trusty psky makes a good point uh we didn't mention it in this budget but there
181is no money other than the $9 million which executive director mentioned for Capital outlay which is just left over from the Arts and Music block grant that we're spending on site safety and and vapa Facilities there's really not a lot of money for facilities uh in the budget so if there is a big uh hbac failure at one of our schools we're going to have to find some money either from the general fund uh whose reserves are diminishing or borrow from somewhere and that has to be paid back cops have to be paid back from the general fund to your point uh which takes those resources away from other uses obviously so can we give some of the families who are here from Oak Valley some hope if if when we find out what routes
182are determined that we need to cut them we don't have the drivers we don't have the funds whatever I mean it's a little of everything can we promise that we're we will put out the information as a preliminary and have a conversation with families try to work out some solutions because I do think more than one of our more than one of our speakers mentioned um attendance problems that and I believe that will be a problem um if we indeed cannot provide our you know this optional busing is not optional for a lot of families but can we promise that when we do have the routes um the the route Cuts list that we it's it will be a preliminary list and we will have conversations and we will attempt to have some flexibility and
183try to problem solve we're not going to save every route yeah no I'm open to having those conversations I don't understand the work that Mr Lauder does well enough to understand how going back to redo the routes that they're going to do over the next few weeks when we get that feedback from the community how I'm not quite sure sure how that's going to work necessarily but um I think it's director L do you have any thoughts on on the uh feasibility of of that approach um we can certainly put out communication once we have it we will and we're working on a communication with with Christine P um regarding how the process is going to look once we have the rats established we can put out a communication I don't know how easy it's
184going to be to rework that uh if there there are concerns um there are options uh you know I think of the language that we implemented last year regarding um the the late routes the possibility of