001I did >> order. >> It was really exciting. >> Welcome to the Lincoln High School Western Pluser School Board meeting November 4th. We'll start off on the pledge of allegiance. Trustee Price, please stand in the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> The board has been meeting in close session. Conference labor negotiator. No action was taken. Personnel public employee employment discipline dismissal released. No action was taken. Conference with legal negotiation anticipated litigation government code section 54956.9. No action was taken. Public employee performance evaluation superintendent. No action was taken. The board encourages participate. The board encourages public participation during the meeting as requests civility and the use of Korea's language.
002The board does not condone the use of profanity, vulgar language, gestures, or any other inappropriate behavior, including attacks, andor threats directed towards any meeting participant and or district employee. There will be an opportunity for members of the public to speak to the board on items that are not on the agenda during communication and reports as well as communities to speak to each item on the agenda when it comes up for consideration. The board does not permit the board's not permitted to deliberate or take action on on items on the agenda, but may refer the bound to staff for followup. Request forms are located at the entrance of the meeting room and are to be submitted to the superintendent's executive assistant prior to the start of the meeting. Speakers are limited to 3 minutes each and
003the board will limit the total time of public input for each item to 20 minutes. However, in exceptional circumstances, when necessary to ensure full opportunity for public input, the board president may with the board consent adjust the amount of time allowed for public input and or time allowed for each speaker. Such any adjustments shall be done equitably so that to allow diversity of viewpoints. Okay, we're going to go to 4.0 zero consent agenda. Notice to the public, all items on the consent agenda will be approved with one motion, which is not debatable and requires a unanimous vote for passage. If any member of the board, superintendent, or the public request items to be removed from this section and placed on the regular order of business to allow the following for approval of the consent agenda.
004I have the consent agenda which is 5.2 through 5.21. Are there any items on the um any items that the board would like to remove from the consent agenda? No. Okay. Uh do I have a motion? >> I'll move to approve. >> Okay. Do I have a second? >> I'll second. >> Okay. This is a roll call for please call the roll. Member. Yes. >> Yes. >> Price. >> Yes. >> Okay. Communication from the public. At this time, any member of the public who has submitted a request to speak to the board regarding matters not on the agenda will be given three minutes to address the board. Uh Darwin Gutierrez. Hi, I'm Darius. Um, the reason I'm up here is because um, last week at the Lincoln City Council, uh, they were proposing a uh,
005approval for a park and I went up to question why we couldn't have a school park like uh, the one over here on uh, what is it? >> Yeah, anyway. Um because I told them it wasn't right that people that are buying their homes there um won't know that they're going to be shipping their kids to Sheridan. Um they said that they do have a piece of property for a school further down uh for the future, but they don't know from you guys when it's going to be built. Uh one of the city council members stated that she's been getting a lot of emails from the public because where tax property money is going. Um, you guys get a certain percent for each house that is being built and plus h uh property taxes that
006we people are uh paying throughout all these years. And yet we don't have enough money for our schools. Uh the one over there by more it's going to be five years. The one on 193 another 20 like you guys did at Lincoln Crossing. I had a son living at Megan Crossing and they moved because uh by the my grandson was four and by the time you built that school he was 18 in Roseville. Out of five kids that graduated Lincoln High School, I only have one back here and she might even move because it's getting ridiculous. So where is the money going? If property taxes is paying for all this, we have tons of houses. tons and yet you have no money. >> Okay. Okay. Uh, Marcia Snap. >> Good evening. Thank you. My name
007is Marcia Schmack. Um, I'm retired with my husband to Lincoln Crossing. Um before that I had a have a bachelor's degree in economics, a masterers of business administration in finance and technology project management. I worked for Bank of America for eight years in corporate. Um I then got a securities license worked for a bond issuing firm who's also a financial adviser for public agencies. I then moved over to the other side of the desk became a controller in the private sector for both manufacturing and bank. Um and then took a position in the public sector as a Um, so when he came up here, I thought I was retired. Um, but evidently not the case. And uh, so I was asked to come speak at uh, the school district about their finances and several other
008items. And uh I understand in the early 2000s when the uh when it hit the wall in 2009, the district evidently had some issues that they had to get the state involved. Um currently, I'm looking from the 2021 to the 2025 projected budget. Revenues have gone up 30 million, but at that time, uh the expenses were projected to go up 45 million. I understand that the board basically thought that was a bad idea and since called for a tighter budget, but this is a trajectory that can't work. Um, so you can tell this is going on by the fact that certificated salaries during that time went from 35 million to 48 million, but classified salaries went from 10 million to 18 million. That's almost 100% increase in salaries over a four year period of time.
009That that cannot stand. Uh in addition, for whatever reason, they combine contract services and operating expense. No one knows why you combine those two, but it is. And they went from 9 million to 17 million. So yeah, that was almost 100% increase in four years. So there are obviously some issues that the district needs to uh address. I have never seen a private sector company that doesn't have a controller and chief financial officer certainly for anything with 10 million and up. This district has 100 million in revenues and has no chief financial officers. I think you need one and I think that should be one of your business. In addition, the district paid off uh I guess yesterday with 53 million in bond anticipation notes between 23 and 24. That was 53 million. I'm assuming
010that came out of some sort of reserve because it wasn't hit cash and I just thought that should be >> okay. We're going to go to uh board reports. Uh Kim is not here. So we're going to go to CO Bridg's high school student advisory. Charlie. Hello. So it's been a while. I apologize, but it's been because of my golf, which ended yesterday, so I'll be here full time now. But just to catch up. So for homecoming, we just had that about two weeks ago, and we had over a thousand students packing to our gym. We had a great turnout. We were very excited for it. Little Woman starting with Lincoln High School starting this week, November 6, and I highly recommend that you see that. We're also having a drift sale at my school
011as well as our Crash Corner still being open and successful. If you're not aware of what our Crash Corner is, it is a new outlet for business students to learn how to operate and sustain a market. Basically, it's this little hut outside one of our D buildings and all the students take turns operating, funding it, spending their own class time and after school hours to make sure it's successful. For athletics, there's been quite a lot going on. Our football season just ended and it remained undefeated, but now we are going to playoffs starting next week on Friday. Girls golf won their four-time league championship and we recently completed at divisionals. Varsity boys cross country wins their league manner for the first time. And tennis also wins their pink banner with winter sports starting now for
012all triyouts including soccer for boys and girls and yeah basketball as well but that's all I have to report. >> Charlie I think you missed a little part of your information about yourself perhaps with golf >> and I recently completed competed at Masters um last Monday and yeah I'm very grateful that I got to go against the other schools from different divisions and and she did very well. >> All right, Phoenix High School advisory student Jonathan Martinez. >> Um, hello. Um, I would like to start this off by saying I went to the student senate and I uh saw many faces such as Callahan, Jason, Jennifer, I think one other. Uh, the bus ride there I got flexed on by a kid. Um anyways, uh Sierra College was on campus today in our college and
013career center to help students register for second semester co-enroll. They also met with seniors to register in the next fall. They will be conducting the ASVAB test on campus today which was a military just military related things. Uh on the 17th we'll be holding FASA orientations for seniors interest in postsecary training in college. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh board trustee uh trustee Price. >> Um I'll keep it brief. I was able to spend some time with Jennifer Horton, Jennifer Ladden. Um gosh, who else did we bring? George and I were there. Uh but we got to uh spend some time with Sierra College and with Analopee High School uh sort of modeling their mechatronics program. It's just really cool to watch um this team figure out how to create things that don't exist and trying
014to figure out ways they can get materials donated programs drawn. Um very creative uh solutions with Sierra College to become a satellite campus. Anyway, sorry George. I had a feeling he was going to talk about that and I didn't mean to say as much as I did. Um it's just an impressive team. It was fun to be there. I love the way we're trying to find ways to serve the community. Um Shark Tank is uh is humming along and the projects are challenging this year and the kids are getting smarter every single year. I think I'll run out of ways in which I can provide value within the next two years which is ahead of schedule. So that's good. Um also to shout out the crash corner. I think that uh that business pathway at
01512 Bridges has hit a stride that is pretty remarkable and if you're not following them on Instagram, you should especially if you own a small business cuz they're teaching you how to market on social media. Um and that's all I >> Okay, Trusty Nits. Okay. So, um on October 27th, I dropped um off palm grants from our farm to Sheridan First Street Gems Phoenix um and Lincoln High School and the district and I'll if they are not popped and I need to bring you some. If they're not popped, um I'll be bringing them to the rest of schools next week. If not, they'll have to wait for the mandate to I'll make sure I capture them. Um I attended academic excellence meeting with Jen and George and we talked about math and there was a
016report out on that in our in our weekly update. Um on Halloween I handed out candy and tattoos to about 200 kids at my store. Um I met with member Price to talk about boundaries and I attended the sporting plays last sporting plays tournament. Then the next one will be the states I uh state finals. I would recommend if you can go to go starts at 8 a.m. in Sparta. Uh it will be really fun. And um u Mike Mo's son slated over there. He did really good. So that's my report. >> All righty. Trusty Jag. >> Okay. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Trusty profit. Sorry. >> Okay. I don't have anything. >> I had my one-on-one with I had a one-on-one with Carrie, a leadership call with Dan. Um first dyslexia committee meeting of the
017year we had this past uh week and Jen's I think pretty ready to go with us now. She got brought up to speed. So I'm excited about that for our early literacy interventions. Um attended the PCOE award dinner last night with Carrie and Christie. We didn't win anything. at this point. We need to start nominating people. Um, met with council member John Rei, facilitated an interview with Gold Country Media for Club America officers over at 12 High School and attended Mayor Andre's fundraiser for her run for county supervisor. >> Okay. Uh, Trusty Destro. >> Yeah, I have about four or five items and I'll be quick. Uh I met with the dyslexic committee which is uh Jen Latin, Marsh Profett, Rio Penders and some others. We were working on ways uh to aid the dyslexic
018detection in middle school and older students oftentimes older students who have dyslexia have not diagnosed and they have ongoing problems. So we're trying to address that. And then on October 30th, I also met with the academic excellence committee, which is April Nitzos and Jenna Adden. And we're working on improving math outcomes. Part of our focus is on uh middle school math, but also there's a difficult transition often times between 8th grade and nth grade math. And we're going to try that try to make that better. People have tried that for a long time, but we're going to put that on our agenda. Also, last week I had a chance to work with Emma. Thank you. And we worked on the poetry slab which is coming up in the spring. Uh we did a comprehensive entry
019form and we're going to ask people to submit their poems and we're working on the one of the most important parts of poetry slam which is publicity and soon you're going to hear a lot about it and it's going to be posted in the schools. Two other things. Next, uh, I was on the mechatronics tour and, um, mechatronics is a word you're going to be hearing a lot of, and if you don't know what it is, I certainly didn't know what it was. Um, it encompasses a multitude of things, but one way to look at it is you're you're building the machines that build the other machines. For instance, one way to look at it is if you've seen those electronic arms that zip around and build cars, that's mechatronics. And uh we're gonna we
020went had a chance to go to Analopee High School. They have a brand new program. And we also then after that went to the Mothership, which is Sierra College. And they have a a great training program. And something you might want to know is that uh if you complete the 8week course at Sierra, the eight course program, eight different courses, you can walk into a 70 to $80,000 job without even an AA degree, which is pretty >> class I'm taking. Hey, >> well then you'll that be then you'd get $10,000. Okay. And finally, soon we'll be discussing districtric district questions. And it's, as you all know, that's a heck of a problem. Regardless of the resolution, uh please know that the people here beside me uh went over this dozens and dozens of times. Dozens
021of times we talked about it, searching for answers that will best serve the students, the parents, and the community. Still, I know not everyone is going to be pleased. Whatever your position on this, you can take some slim comfort from Mark Twain's 1877 declaration. Mark Twain, he said, "In the first place, God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made school boards. Okay. Thanks. Thanks, George. Um um I haven't had very much to do this this last couple weeks, but I attended the president's call with our local uh presidents uh uh district presidents. uh PCOE and CSBA were uh there uh during that we were able to discuss what was going on with the neighboring districts. Um it's always nice to get a uh um a view of what's going on with um our
022local our local u parent districts. So um that's usually a great conversation. Um I have my leadership call with James um on Halloween. and I got dressed up and uh came out to the district office and saw some really cute kids of ours. Uh got to pass out some candy and then went down to the uh plaza and saw some whole bunch of other kids and I stopped by April's shop and um I didn't get a tattoo though. >> The kids love that when you came. They thought I had planned it. It was great. Um and then uh last night uh I met with Superintendent Callahan and Trustee Dyster to prepare for tonight's meeting. And then we attended and then uh I attended the Alurn uh awards night at Plaster County Office of Education in
023Auburn. And that's all. Uh so Western Plaster Teachers Association, Michelle. >> No. Okay. Uh, what about classified employee association, Heather? >> No, nothing to report. >> Nothing. Okay. All right. Superintendent Callahan. >> Okay. I will keep mine brief. I um attended the CTE advisory meeting on uh October 23rd, which uh Jennifer Horton, our college and career uh coordinator, did a fabulous job of bringing members of our uh business community in to meet with all of our pathway um teachers and students to discuss kind of what's new and trending in their pathways and to uh make then adjustments ultimately to their curriculum to stay current and relevant. um so that we're ensuring that we're preparing our kids today for the workforce of tomorrow. Um on the 25th, so Saturday, I was asked uh to be a
024moderator at the Constitution Bowl and um I think it might have been on purpose, but I got placed with the Lincoln High School team and so I was their moderator and uh they uh were announcing in the three the first two rounds. So there's four rounds, three rounds of 14 questions each and teams are asked the questions, they're given 30 seconds to respond and then the moderators score it and then uh at the end of each round they report out where teams are and uh at the end of the first round, Lincoln High School was in fifth place. The end of the second round they were in fifth place. And at the end of the third round, they only announced the top three winners. So they either place fourth or fifth and I just decided
025that they probably fourth. >> So >> what kind of voice did they ask? >> It's all sorts of questions related to the constitution. >> Yeah. So it was um it was pretty cool. And then I was asked to be their um guest speaker actually at the end and I talked about uh the importance of civic engagement and leadership. So it was it was a great event. And then uh this past Saturday I was uh I hosted the Rotary hundred-year gala as the Rotary President and we officially um uh announced our $2 million donation to the Boys and Girls Club of Plaster County. Uh they are going to be working to bring a Boys and Girls Club to the city of Lincoln. So uh and uh they are working to collect the additional funds that they
026need and they're well on their way um to get that and so within the next probably couple of years we'll have a boy and girls club involved and that's my report. >> Okay we'll move to information discussion action. Uh at this time, any member of the public who has submitted your requests form to speak to the board regarding items on the agenda will be given three minutes to address the board >> during the do we have anything for this one? >> Not. >> Okay. So 6.2 to approval of memorandum understanding regarding classifying school employees summer assistant program within the western classer unified school district and California school employees association. Mr. M. >> Good evening. Uh thisou which is often referred to as CESAP will be authorizing the second year of participation in this program. We
027are currently about halfway through the first year of this program. Just as a memory refresher, what it does is purely voluntarily CSEA employees who are 10 or 11 month employees, meaning they're not year round, who make uh under a certain threshold of money, can elect to have money set aside from each paycheck that goes into a separate account. And then at the end of the year, uh the state of California will do a match for every dollar that's put aside. the state will match up to a dollar of those funds and they can set aside up to 10% of their paycheck. So in a perfect world they could actually get a 10% boost to their paycheck. So it is not a substantial financial opportunity for our employees that come at a small statutory cost to
028the district but it's one that we're more than willing to to shoulder given the benefit to our employees. This year uh we had almost 110 people participate and the current estimate from the state is that it's going to be a 56 cent on the dollar match which isn't the full dollar. uh CSEA is aggressively promoting to districts that participate and the good news is more districts are but of course more people that participate the money is spread a little more thinly but we still see it as an undoubted benefit to our employees and so we're working with participate in this again and so we recommend that we approve this >> okay any discussion >> yeah how come the state doesn't pay the full dollar >> because it's an appropriated amount want that set aside by
029the state on the year and it's clear in the language that they'll match up to a dollar depending on the participation rate. I wouldn't be surprised I'm sure that CSCA is aggressively bargaining with the state to get that appropriation to increase but as it is a pre-desated amount they have to go with how many people are in it divide it into the amount that's set aside. Great question. I had a question about so is this is this collected in a specific calendar or tax year or does it go towards some sort of long-term retirement? It seems like it's part of their income. >> No, it is. And so it's set aside in a set account and then in August or September based on how it works, they will get a check that's got the lump
030sum of the money they set aside plus the additional match money from the state. They get it in that summer. whose original convention was that a lot of districts don't pay their team or their classified employees during the summer. This was a way to fill that gap. We pay all 12 months, but because of the state match, it just makes sense to give our employees this opportunity as well. But it is a a one-time lump sum payment in the summer following the initiation of their enrollment. >> Is there a reason a teacher would take advantage of that? >> Well, first off, to be clear, it's classified employees, not teachers. Okay. Um yes potentially just the because they do have to set aside money each month and if their monthly outgo that would just be too
031damaging for them to participate comfortably then that would be the number one reason why another great question >> is this a continuing program or is there a sunset >> sure we to the best of our knowledge it's continuing we have no end of date to our knowledge we however do have to engage in anou every year to continue it's not automatically resetted And employees have to reup every year as well. We as a district have to reup on it and then each individual employee has to reup. But we know of no reason that this wouldn't end anytime soon. >> Has membership increased each year? Do >> this is only year two. So I don't have that data. That would be a very interesting point. And also just so you know, um employees are allowed like
032a 30-day period where they can back out. Of the 110 people that we had initially enrolled, only four people elected to opt out once they found out that was only 56 So partition participation rate remained strong despite the fact it wasn't $4. >> Do you have to commit to the dollar amount that you're going to set aside at the start of the year? >> You you you do, but in that same 30-day period, it's kind of you can opt out or you can reduce your contribution that you're setting. >> So then you're locked in for the remainder of >> outside that 30 days unless you have a significant financial difficulty which again opens the conversation again. Once you're after the 30 days, you're in here. >> Interesting. Yes. >> How are you? Do I have
033a motion? >> So move. >> I have a second. >> I'll second. >> All in favor say I. >> Okay. 5. >> All right. Uh consider approval of neutral sunshine proposal for negotiations regarding the collective bargaining agreement between Western Plaster Unified School District and the Western Plaster Teachers Association. >> Thank you. So this sunshine letter was presented at our last board meeting as a review and information item only without sunshine what we are opening the contract with the teachers association looked up because this is a continuation of our last negotiations where the entire contract was open. This continues that along with salaries which you did call out because we did come to a salary agreement last year. We did call out salary and specific, but this is now up for a vote because it's the
034second time of this presentation. And as we're in mutual agreement with you, we recommend that you approve this the sunshine letter that enables us to negotiate uh for you. >> Okay. Any discussion? >> Uh do I have a motion? >> I'll move to approve. Do >> I have a second? Second. Okay. All in favor say I. >> I. >> All opposed. >> Okay. Votes 5. Uh review of the mutual sunshine proposal for negotiations regarding the collective bar agreement between Western Plaster um unified school district and the Western Plaster Teacher Association. >> This one should be CSA, right? >> Yes. All right. So, I guess see it. This is the classified employees association. >> Yes. Sorry. >> No problem. Um, so this is the counterpart from our classified association for sunshine. This is information only. This
035is a first read this case because we just settled the entire contract last year. There's only two articles we're calling open at this time. Salaries and benefits which are open at all times uh every year. And then we're also opening our transfer policy. There is a mutual interest in creating a more clear transfer policy process that will hopefully make the movement of classified employees from one position to another a little bit more streamlined which is definitely interesting both of us. Um neither of these will qualify as reoper because we're mutual agreement once a contract is closed annually each side of the negotiations table can only open two items with the contract. Neither of these will count as a reopener because we're in mutual agreement that we want these open. So again, this is review only.
036So we recommend you please do review these so that for next time on November 18. >> Okay, any questions for Mike? >> Okay, thank you Mike. Appreciate it. Okay, we're going to go to 6.5 which is temporary assignment of village 7 students pending construction of new TK8 school. So as uh shared at the uh public hearing and then uh discussed at other points the uh the need to assign as we did with village one students because when village one uh began um construction and we started getting students coming from the village one area. We needed the board to take action to assign village one. So the board recently did assign uh village one students to either copen. So the the development north of 193 is earmarked for coffin and the development south of 193 is
037earmarked for Sheridan. uh much like that we are needing the board to um assign the attendance boundaries for village 7 in this case because we do have a fully funded TK8 in partnership with with group of communities and the city of Lincoln. Uh we we need the temporary assignment of of students to Scott Leman Elementary and Glenn Edwards. Um and then and Lincoln High School and then once the village um village 7 school is built then we will assign uh the students uh permanently to Lincoln High School unless at that time there is any if perhaps there's a village 5 high school at that time which likely not but um we would then do another reassignment of those attendance boundaries once the uh village 7 school is um is built. So we are looking for
038the board to approve the assignment of Scott limit elementary middle school and Lincoln High School for Southern discussion on this. >> I would just like to make sure that it's memorialized that with this vote that they will be after the TK are still they cannot be agrees. I know. >> Yep. We can make sure it's more or less in the minutes. >> Okay. Any other discussion? >> All right. Do I have a motion? >> Motion to approve. >> I'll second. >> Okay. You'll second. Okay. All in favor say I. >> I. >> All opposed. 5 Z. Okay. Uh 6.6 uh conversion of First Street Elementary School to expand capacity for Glenn Edwards Middle School and reassignment of First Street Elementary School attendance boundaries to Fos Branch and Creekide Oaks Elementary School. Carrie. >> Okay. So,
039as um as the board is aware, we did a couple of community uh meetings at First Street. We had a meeting in the spring uh to discuss this initially with the board and then of course the public hearing uh last month. The uh recommendation remains the same uh that we would um begin to um plan for no earlier than the 2728 school year. uh for the reassignment of attendance boundaries of First Street to uh Creekide Oaks, which would be um south of Fifth Street and north of Fifth Street to Foscat Ranch. And again, that would be no earlier than the 27 28 school year. Um ultimately the board taking action tonight to uh to change the attendance foundry will start our process officially in engaging our community and staff around exactly what that looks like.
040And so you'll remember in the spring I had brought to you that the initial kind of thinking was that we would do a phase approach that starting and initially it was 26 27 that we would start uh phasing out the school. Um and after hearing from from staff and from um uh from board even too we we said uh that we could potentially postpone it as long as 2829 given the uh the change in recommendation for link crossing as well because originally the link crossing recommendation was 2627 and so we're going to need the capacity at Glenn Edwards sooner. So, um, and based on staff concern about a phased out and that that kind of I feel in some regards that just let's rip the bandaid off and if we're going to close it, let's
041be definitive about when and not necessarily have it be a slow a slow phase out. So, at this point, we have not made those decisions. So what the board is taking action on uh if if you uh approve the recommendations is that no earlier than 2728 those attendance boundary shift and then uh it will shift dependent on the the approach. So it could be what we've heard from uh from staff is that we know that the seven school is going to be opening right now in the fall of 2030. Is there a way for us to coordinate this with the opening of a new school and potentially do a close as late as June of 2030 with a new school opening in fall of 30. So our next step will be I'll be working with
042Mike Dell and with with Kathy and Carrie related to just facilities and assessing when are we going to need that capacity at Glen Edwards um beyond what Glenn Edwards can right now. So we know in 20 2829 if the board approves the next recommendation that we would have roughly 100 more students attending Glenn Edwards in the 2829 school year can they handle those 100 kids before needing to start to take some goals from first street. report. We'll work on uh updating the paste aspects related to uh the outcomes of this and then working with staff and the community on timeline and whether it is a phased approach, a shut at a certain time or a combination of the two. Um and so those decisions will be made later. So, what we're asking the board to
043take action on tonight is to um allow that no earlier than their 2728 school year, we could reassign attendance boundaries to Foskate Ranch and Creek Side depending on where the first street students live. >> Okay. Do we have any discussion? >> I have a couple questions. >> Okay. um had a few emails regarding the gate program and what the district plans to do to support those students. >> Sure. That's just want to make sure it's Yeah, thank you for the question. Um so the conversation about first street school date program has actually preceded this conversation about boundaries and there's been discussion about what happens with gate for for quite a while. Um since this has come up though, it's obviously gotten a lot more um direct attention. So I I'm a families both at and
044not at first street school that have gay children as well as in some student focus groups at and not at first street school with regard to gate programming. I have a couple more groups too. I have a meeting that we're trying to get coordinated with the teachers that are currently teaching gate at first as well. The thing that I would just make sure that the board knows is that um as of last month there were 254 total kids identified as eight and high achiever that works three through five in our district and 185 of them attend schools that are not first street school and 69 of them attend first street school. So, I'm really thoughtful about how do we support all of our gate students and I'm and I'm interested to see what the outcome
045of this decision is to figure out what that looks like. But I really want to be sure that all 250 students are being supported um and learning the best that we can from what's happening at First Street, which is awesome work as well as what we might be able to do to bring that to all of our schools across our district. I do. Um, one of my concerns is that we're going to repurpose the portables. >> Oh, is that it was Go ahead. >> So, um, there's been a lot of talk about the portables being at the end of their useful life and we keep talking about repurposing them. What are the odds that we're actually going to repurpose them or versus bringing in new portals? >> Right. That's something we're going to have to
046definitely assess about the conditions. >> Can you come up to the >> Mike needs a mic? >> Yeah, Mike needs a mic. >> Um, yeah. So, we'll have I mean, we'll have to definitely look at portals and assess their condition, some of their history, um, and you know, we'll have to do a cost of benefit anal Is it worth going in and trying to to refurbish them or even the placement? I mean, it may be more cost effective to to do some site work, keep portable where they are and either bring in a new building. It could be a mod or another we're going to have to assess that we don't have the plan. We don't just lost none of that. We're going to we're going to work within the dollars that we have because
047that is that is the dollars will come from village one >> developer fees. They won't be coming from the CFD taxpayers. >> No one Um, >> was that it? >> I'm just asking if there's any other questions or discussions. >> I mean, look, it's it's hard not to see the faces in this room >> and the color that represents that school and its culture and its people. Um, I will say every time I go on that campus, I just feel like I'm on an apology tour for making new guys work in that facility, for having you try and do the difficult job that you do in a facility that was promised as a temporary facility 25 years ago and built with temporary portable buildings. You did something miraculous in that space. um what's the alternative?
048Well, we build it better. That doesn't work. We don't have the finances to do that. Um and I don't I don't know of a different solution. I certainly don't know of a better one, but I I also don't know of a different one. And however this vote goes, um I'm I'm I imagine how it might feel. And um I uh I don't know what to say other than um when you look at the logistics of this, it's easy. And when you look at the heart of it, it's terrible. Um so I I I just don't want to not recognize that you're here and that I see you and that this is going to be another decision that will likely haunt me long after I'm done in this world. That's all I have. Um, I just
049want to say, you know, First Street, um, it has a great program and a dedicated staff. There's no questioning that your heart is in it every single day with your kids. And I've been there walking these campuses. They see you work with them and I just hate that it has to come to this decision. But you are appreciating. Can I add one? Um, if the board votes to move forward, I I want you all to know that I heard you loud and clear about how we go about doing this. And I know that the original recommendation was to slowly phase it. And we are going to do everything that we can to line up the timelines so that it works for the smoothest transition possible for staff and for students. Any other comments? Okay. Do
050I have a motion? All move to approve. >> Do I have a second? I'll second. All in favor say I. >> I. All oppose me. >> Okay. 4 Z or 41, excuse me. All right, we're going to go to assignment of Lincoln Crossing Elementary School attendance boundaries, Glenn Edwards Smith School and Lincoln High School. And there's some comments. Do you want to say you're Yeah. Um so similarly, we uh held the public hearing in October. Uh we had meetings, two meetings at Lincoln Crossing Elementary. Um and of course the board heard in the spring uh concerns related to the recommendations. I've asked Kathy to be here as well as she is our financial consultant that understands uh CFP financing and and other aspects related to uh this situation that people have had questions about. And
051so I wanted to make sure she was here in case the board had any additional questions. But the recommendation is that the board um approve the uh changes for Lincoln Crossing to uh attend Glenn Edwards Middle School and High School beginning in the 28 29th school year. So it would impact this year's third graders. And with that, I will just add too that uh we've we've said it publicly and we honor uh honor that any uh students who uh have siblings that are attending 12 Bridges Middle or 12 Bridges High School would be grandfathered along with their uh with their siblings and that we would also provide uh priority in intra district uh enrollment for Lincoln crossing students at both Middle and Bridges High School. Okay. Uh, first comment is Robin L. >> Good evening.
052We filmed you several times since June in regards to this. It's unfortunate that it's come to us and Marcy and some other people are going to talk about some other things. And the thing that I want to point out is and what the following code is in reference to CFD and what our specific CFD says. Um, which basically entitled using the word shall for our students to go to a school that the CFG has not should but shall in alignment with your attendance board policy. Nowhere near your policy does it states we were ever tied to only one school. I'm not sure where that came from ex copy of your own board policy. Um items on that board policy that are also potentially in conflict with the alignment with the boundary attendance are the state
053CFD law. Um the community alignment who got over 600 signatures in reference to folks that are against this. You still did not reach out to all 3,000 taxpayers who may not currently have school a student at LCP. In addition to that, we still have the situation with the gathering in which item number student safety. Item number eight, the community, the urban, who we're literally dividing HOA in half. Would you do that to 12 Bridges? I think you probably wouldn't, and that's why you're not, which is unfortunate. Yet again, we're treated as if we don't exist, just like we had to for the camp. This is wrong. Somebody needs to be held accountable for these actions. The traffic patterns. Have you ever driven to Lincoln High School in the morning versus 12 bridges? I easily get
054on the freeway and get off in less than 8 minutes. There are literally stop signs from my house to get to the school. Yes, distance-wise it may be closer, but timewise it's not. Think of driving in San Francisco with every stop sign you have to the additional 300 people coming to these schools. The consistency since 12 Bridges Middle School opened in 2006 almost 20 years ago that has been our school feeder from Lincoln Crossing. 12 Bridges Middle or High School opened in 2021. Again, a school we were promised in early 2000s. I sent this I've talked to the accountant. I've talked to Carrie. I've talked to them. It's not time. If you vote no, I'm not going away. At least please postpone it until you open another school for these kids to go to. You
055don't have to vote at all. You can say no vote. Thank you. >> Okay. Uh Marcia S. Last time I was here was um the last board meeting and there was some discussion about uh lion crossing not paying for 12 bridges. Um this is a uh in 2020 the district basically issued a 2020 bond anticipation note of 35 million. This is for community facilities district number two 34.98 million. uh basically said the notes are being issued to provide additional funds needed to complete the school of facilities including the construction of 12 bridges high school, Scott Elementary and the modernization. So um the original in 2003 the CFD was basically organized to finance the acquisition, construction, installation of new elementary, middle and high school facilities. basically those um at that point there was a memorandum of
056understanding that was basically exhibit E on this between the district and the developer to do a set aside of those properties in September 21, 2004. There was preliminary um title par including the new middle school. I want to know what happened to that. Right now the the cash flow is 107 million for the 50 years involved. There's been about 35 million spent. If you insist on basically moving forward on basically not allowing students to go to the the facilities they have paid for, then we're going to ask for that $7 back. We have to pass a ballot measure to do it. We will. But at this point, Lincoln Crossing is owed to middle school and they're actually But we'll settle for a minute. Thank you very much. Oh, I want to say one more thing.
057There seems to be some uh lack of understanding as to the word shall. And so shall law dictionary shall basically this word is generally mandatory or imperative but it may be construed as merely permissive. Um but in cases where there is no public or private right impair in this case there is a private right impair to the tune of $70 million and so shall is mandatory you shall basically acquire construct and install a ministry thank you uh Carrie Murma Hello, my name is Carrie Duma and I'm a resident of Lincoln for 20 years and live in the Lincoln Crossing Elementary neighborhood. Um, as you know, we were promised when Lincoln Crossing was built, two elementary schools and a middle school that land was set aside by the Lincoln Crossing Community Clubhouse. the the board and
058the district decided that that that was not needed. I'd like to read from the um 2014 master plan on why that was decided. After a thorough review of students expected from the 12 Bridges and Lincoln Crossing area, my an evaluation of enrollment and capacity at the existing middle schools and the possible expansion of both 12 Bridges and Glenn Middle School, the district will not need to construct what was originally called Lincoln Crossing Middle School. So now we're told that there's not room at 12 bridges and it can't be expanded and that we now don't have a min. And so my question is all those villages were planned in this master plan in 2014 and it was decided our our middle school wasn't needed. So my question is why? and I do think we're at Oda
059Middle School and then to be told that the new middle school that's getting built in the new neighborhood of Liberty, there's no room for us. So I would propose that we have priority to have a middle school for Lincoln Elementary. Thank you. Uh Brandon P. Thank you. I promise I'll stay. So, legislative intent when you're looking at laws that are created through uh California legisl legislation is predominantly what I deal with and um you look at legislative intent when these laws come out. And I want to go through the history of the school board's intent of these CFT2 bonds. Now, back in uh 20 uh April of 2003. Again, we're using the word shell in your exhibit A of your school bond is the facilities improvements that facilitate the finance credit of proposed CFD number
060two to the extent financing available shell as follows and acquisition construction installation elementary and high school facilities. And if you go to exhibits B down in Roman numeral six, priority attendance access priority to residents of CFD pursuant to the requirements of California government code section 53312.7, the district shall get priority attendance access to students residing in CFD whose residents have paid special taxes to finance these constructions. We're going to go um and this was a unanimous votes on May 6th, 2003. in your uh final hearing report May 13, 2003. Uh Lincoln crossing um western class here on the CFD, the formal vote is uh finance ac acquisition, construction, installation of a new elementary, middle, and high school facilities. And that's May 13th. Let's go to June 10th. Um or June 2010, your uh page 62,
061funding the district facility needs. So this uh goes through that improvement existing facility needs for um original general plan collection of CFD existing monies. This is uh 12 bridges elementary construction branch elementary link crossing elementary and 12 bridges middle school also constructed and included in the outstanding debt was the infrastructure and adjacent site improvements for the 12 Bridges High School campus paid with CFD2 money. And then we go to the the notes issued in 2020 that she had spoken of. These notes were a bridge loan between the funding for uh the CFP money and then the bonds issued out of the state of California. I think it was N and bond A if I'm not mistaken. But this is uh basically a bridge loan. And this included um facilities that were funded including the um
06212 Bridges Elementary or I'm sorry the high school was funded with those CFD bridge loan bonds and that was only recently paid off in June of this year for those notes that funded the high school. So I again say that we have paid our share of taxes to fund the high school and we shall be able to get uh attendance at the high school for today. >> All right. Um do we have any discussion? Okay, let's start with the legislation that's been talked about. Um, it's I had it up here identify yourself. I am Kathy Dominico with Capital PFG. We're the financial advisory firm for the district. You've actually worked with the district since 2007. Okay, I got to find it again, but hold on. Okay. So, the priority attendance um states like the gentleman
063said, "Pursuant to the requirement of California Government Code 533127, the district shall give priority attendance access to students residing in a CFD where residents have paid special taxes that have in full or in part financed the construction of school district facilities. The degree of priority shall reflect the proportion of each school's financing provided through the CFD. Can you explain that last line? >> Yes. So, what we're looking at and in this particular situation, there are two CFDs within the district. Collectively, those CFD taxes have been collected annually and they've been used to pay for COP debt service. COPs are certificates of participation. So, I'll get to your question, but I feel like I need to explain this first. Certificates of participation. They're essentially a loan issued by a school district to repay from any available
064legally available revenue source. So those series of coops were issued in the early 2000 to fund 12 Bridges Elementary, 12 Bridges Middle, Lincoln Crossing Elementary, and Fos Ranch Elementary. So the district has been paying and using the CFD tax collections in their entirety to pay for those COPs over time and will continue to pay for those COPs until they are they mature. Um, so that's that is how the money was used and will be used. So when we talk about proportionality, what we're looking at is of the various communities funding these coops, what proportion did they fund and what does that entitle them to? So when you're looking at tax revenue, you're collecting an amount that isn't necessarily tied to a specific project. And in this situation, it's tied to four projects. So we have
065to look at how much is collected in each area and what that funded and what those community members benefit from. So I'm going to use the Lincoln Crossing community as an example. Lincoln Crossing Elementary is one of the expenditures from those coops. Um the Lincoln Crossing neighborhood that attendance boundary paid for about double check the number. Uh it's about 10% of the overall cop debt service. So 10% of the overall costs would be allocated to that Lincoln Crossing neighborhood. So if we're looking at proportionality, they actually didn't even fund the cost of Lincoln Crossing Elementary. So when we try to do that tie, they're given priority enro enrollment to that one school because they partially funded the construction of Lincoln Crossing Elementary. That can be extrapolated to all of the neighborhoods within the two CFDs.
066So that's part of the complication is yes, these neighborhoods contributed to CFDs and and they will continue to contribute on the CFDs, but they are receiving a benefit. They're receiving it from Lincoln Crossing Elementary. They aren't they are not guaranteed enrollment at every school that the CFDs paid for. And Foscet Ranch is actually a really good example of that. Fosset Ranch has never been assigned to 12 Bridges Middle. They've always been assigned to Glenn Edwards Middle. And another point is 12 Bridges High School is not a CFD school. that was not funded from CFD proceeds. >> So the gentleman read something that said, do you know where that came from? >> Yes, that is the bond anticipation note. So when we were constructing doing the 2019 capital funding plan, there's actually a series of board
067workshops um starting in 2018 all the way through 2020 where we talked about the capital funding plan. Um you will recall we had we needed to borrow money from the in order to um bridge the receipt of state funding. Uh a large portion of the project cost was going to be funded by the state. The state when you get when you apply for state funding, they don't just turn around and and write you a check anymore. There was about a 4-year delay from the time that we actually applied for the funds until we actually received the funding. So in order to actually complete the construction of the school, the district had to borrow money. We used two different financing mechanisms to do that. The first was what's called a grant anticipation note. So, a portion
068of the um state funding was already committed from a an existing bond measure and the district was already allocated funds. We were just waiting for them to arrive. The second part of that was that the state needed a new school bond measure in order to fund the district share of cost. So, we didn't know there was no guarantee that the district would receive the revenue. So, we use the CFDs as a tool, as kind of a collateral type concept to basically use what's called a bond anticipation note, which is just a short-term bridge loan. CFD revenue was never used to pay on that loan. The state reimbursement was used to pay off the loan. The CFD was used as a tool to reduce the risk on the district general fund. And your only other borrowing
069option was through another COP. Go back to the mid 2000s. As we just talked about, the district already has significant coop debt. Um, over $128 million was borrowed through coops. Pretty much every school in the district was collateralized for those coops. You really didn't have the ability to borrow additional money through coops at that time. We had to come up with another security and the CFD was the tool that we could use. this um this was something explained kind of in to the board back in 2018 before this was implemented again in 19 and again in 20. >> Does that make sense, April? >> Yeah. Thank you. Couple more questions. texted my phone. Um the option and we've thrown out lots of options to you guys over the last few months for this and for
070first street. Um and thanks for addressing all those and g giving us um the reality of what what our recommendations meant. um redrawing the boundaries for 12 versus elementary um and and the sixth grade. So taking our elementary schools and making them sixth grade, would that solve the problem um capacity problems that we're having? >> One of your challenges is where your capacity problem is. So your capacity problem is in the 12 Bridges Middle School attendance boundary, current attendance boundary. The three schools that feed into 12 Bridges Middle are Lincoln Crossing, Lehman, and 12 Bridges Elementary. Those schools are the ones that are at at or exceeding capacity. So, if you're adding a grade level to them, they don't have the space to accommodate that. Um, there are a couple schools in the district that
071could accommodate sixth grade, Coppen and um but that those schools feed into Glenn Edwards, so it doesn't really solve this particular problem. Um, so we did look at grade configuration changes. It just isn't something that would solve the problem in front of us. Um, again, April, one of the things I think we want to keep in mind is we need to create about a capacity for about 100 kids per grade level. >> I know that's the magic number per grade level. Um, so you answer that question. Let's see. Were developer fees collected for a middle school in Lincoln Crossing? And if so, what happened to that money? and if you know what happened where we said we didn't need the school. >> So >> I think my first question is did we collect money from
072development? >> So the the CFD bond language includes a list of things that the money could be spent on. It doesn't include a promise that the money will be spent on all of those items. So when the CFDs were created, I don't know the promises that were made. And we could go back to the board minutes from was that 200298 and see what was actually promised. I I actually don't know. But what those CFD lists, those facility lists state are the the allowable expenditures. Um so I want to give an example. I'm use Rockland as the example. Um Rockland CFDs only call out their CFD1 and CFD2 only allow the expenditure for elementary facilities. The problem is now their CFD1 and CFD2 has a need at the middle school level, but their CFDs are restrictive
073and you can't spend that money on middle middle school facilities even though they have a need for it. Now, what is it 20 years after they were formed? So to prevent that type of situation, public agencies tend to put more items on a list than so if the money is available, they would be able to spend the money because that list is restricted. It's not on the list, you cannot spend the money on it. Um, so that's that's the concept of that link crossing middle school. In 2014, when the district decided not to move forward with that, I mean, kind of have to think about the numbers of link crossing community. If we're under 100 kids a grade level, there's not enough kids in that particular community to fill up a middle school. You'd end
074up with a middle school of 300 kids. You're not going to build a $150 million middle school for 300 kids. It It's just not cost-ffective. You're not able to deliver that way. The cost of school construction is so astronomical that you just can't build in every neighborhood, every type of facility. It's why we don't have high schools all over the community. Why it took so long to build bridges high? Uh so where was there money collected for it? Well, the CFD money is the only collection that came out of those those developments. question wasn't where the developers >> so the um the CFD collections were the funding source through a mitigation agreement. So back when the city of Lincoln's original general plan was created the developers entered into various mitigation agreements with the district that
075called for a combination of development impact fees not traditional developer fees mitigation fees and CFD taxes. That combination of the two is how the developers made up their full mitigation in order to fund the facility's needs. It was a negotiated agreement and the district got what it could get. The law was the same then as it is now. You can't withhold development on the basis of school construction. So they got what they could get. It wasn't enough to fund this laundry list of facilities. >> So the the money that was collected, do you know where it went? it went toward so the the CFD money has gone towards COP repayment completely for the four schools >> for the four schools and any of the mitigation fees that were collected under those development agreements also went
076to COP repayment or sitting in your cop fund balance so you remember as part of our COP repayment plan we have a designated fund balance because CFD collections and developer fees aren't enough to pay the full debt service so we have a fund balance that the board has designated that is drawn upon for or the annual debt service payments. So any prepayments to the CFDs and any mitigation fees collected from those particular mitigation agreements are part of that uh COP fund balance. Uh I do want to point out one other piece. There's also the bold program. Is the board familiar with the remember we have bold projects? Some of the development projects recently within these original this original general plan have opted instead of joining our existing CFDs, they have opted to pay development mitigation
077100% upfront. They've then financed that obligation through the bold program which is again a different type of CFD but it is a CFD on those properties. A portion of those BOL proceeds is sitting in the COP repayment fund. And last year, the district did designate some of the bold proceeds for the expansion of 12 Bridges High School. So, you remember we reallocated $3 million Carrie, I think it was $3 million from the COP repayment plan from the bold proceeds to finish the um expansion of 12 Bridges High School. So that's the other um that's the other development fee funding source from those original mitigation agreements. Okay. And those were specifically from the kind of the projects that are being built right now in 12 bridges. >> So I don't know if I heard you right.
078>> So the the CFD money that paid for the coop that money then went to 12 bridges in high school. No, that's not what I said. >> The bold proceeds, the the the CFD money in its entirety, CFD 1 and two special tax collections in their entirety pay for COP repayment debt payments. The four schools, four schools, that is it. The only deviation from the mitigation agreements that were entered into in the in the late 90s and early 2000s is the portion of those 12 bridges um projects that chose to finance their fees through the bold program. That is a different CFD that is separate and apart from CFD one and two. >> So it's a different CFD as well. >> A different CFD. >> Correct. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I might have one
079more question. >> That's okay. >> Okay. C I have a question. >> Yes. Now I remember the last couple years and and previous that you've come and you've done your CFD report every year. Uh we have uh um auditors that come audit our books every year. And I don't remember I I just got a uh paper as president uh that we passed our audit. Uh can you explain to me what you do every year in regards to that and what our honors do? >> Yeah. So every the district back in 2007 I got a phone call from the superintendent at the time Scott Leman um and said well we we have a problem. Um we have an eight plus million dollar cop debt service payment. We're supposed to pay that off with CFD tax revenues
080and our CFD tax revenues are around three and a half million. Where are we supposed to come up with the rest of the money? And the district was facing a situation where the general fund was going to actually have to fund that that differential and it was going to put the district into bankruptcy. So in conjunction with the county office of education um we came in did a cop repayment plan and unfortunately the district had over borrowed. It was borrowing itself into bankruptcy. um $128 million when the coops were issued to pay for those four schools. The debt payments were not manageable because the CFD tax collections were not sufficient to make the make the debt payments. So, we did um several public meetings. Um there there's a rand report on it. Um there's plenty
081of information on that. The county office was involved several public workshops. As part of that, there was a restructuring of the coops. And the board at the time made a commitment that each year they would get an update on the cop repayment plan, not because it's legally required, but because they wanted everybody to know they had undertaken this debt. They were doing their best to manage it and they had to own it. And so I actually have come back here every year for the last 18 years and presented on the COP repayment plan which includes the CFD tax collections, how they're applied as well as the devel development fees that have been collected if they're enough to make up that shortfall and to the extent that we've had to tap into that C cop fund
082balance that I mentioned earlier. Um so that is something that's been reported to the board every year. Carrie, I don't know if you want to address the audit question because I'm not an audience professional there. Go to >> Hi, Katie Carlson, CBO. So, we receive a couple different kinds of audits each year. uh annually we our financial statements are audited by our independent auditors who uh then come report to you each January and issue an audit report. And so they are looking at um the appropriateness of expenditures to make sure that those are um classified properly, that they're the funds are spent on the correct um expenditures based on uh where those funds come from. And then they issue an opinion each year um stating that our financial statements are material materially correct. And then
083the second audit would be audit. Yeah. We they also um are charged with auditing um uh capital projects that are um funded with bond funds. And so we we have had four or five of those recently. Um those are also presented to you by by the same it's the same group our auditors crow um ensuring that those funds are spent appropriately and in alignment with the the bond verbiage uh for the bonds that were passed by the voters. >> Correct. Yes. And our auditors are very large firm who audit um school districts up and down the state and well actually the country but our the ones who um audit for us audit all over the state and we've been working with them for about uh close to 20 years. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Can
084I start my laundry list of questions for you? Here we go. Well, first I'll have a new question now for all of this discussion. So the COP repayments are paid through the CFD money collected from CFD1 and CFD2, correct? >> And developer fees and there's other funding sources that pay off the COPS, but yes. >> What is our total debt? >> Your total your total debt issued was 128 million. >> What are we sitting at today? >> Your Oh, I don't know. That's a tough question. >> Is it about 330? >> That is 350 million is your total debt repayment including principal and interest. when at the maturity of the coops22 the CF who's the CFD number two bond >> this is a meeting of the board >> CFD number one bond excuse me >>
085no comments from the public >> so we're paying back debt correct >> is all that my CFD money is going to correct and not to what it was actually formed to do was to we didn't get the the so I'm a little confused with the word shall So in the CFD language it says shall elementary, middle, and high school. That doesn't mean that we're guaranteed that. >> No, because the word shall is not in that context. The the word shall is being thrown out in multiple context. What you're getting as far as a project list of the authorized facilities is are the facilities that may be funded from the CFD proceeds that the tax revenue. If the um tax revenue is collected and spent on something that is not on that list, then it would
086invalidate the expenditure. So, you must spend the money on that list on whatever's on that list. >> Okay. who made the decision to annex the uh property next to the Lincoln Crossing Clubhouse not to build us a middle school who projected that we would not have the capacity for that. It seems like a very terrible >> mistake. Not really because again the Lincoln Crossing neighborhood is generating less than 100 kids at grade level. So 100 kids of grade level is going to be a middle school for 300 kids. Not look at what's happening right now though. So but for the problem and you're annexing us away from the schools we've been going to. But there's still capacity. So when you're looking at capacity, you cannot look by neighborhood by neighborhood. Students just don't come in
087nice little packages within the existing facilities. So the the answer is you're going to spend $150 million to build a middle school to 300 kids. There aren't resources to do that. The district has available capacity at its middle school level. And so that's how the decision was made back in 2014 and it's still holding today. That I >> I would add too that we we didn't have the dollars to purchase or to to do it because more than what we're collecting in CFPA funds for the four schools is what we spent on four schools. So there's there isn't money to build another middle school. >> Right. Right. >> But there isn't money because of the mistakes of the past that we had had the money had been spent the way it was supposed to, we
088wouldn't be in this position right now. agree. That said, I I would argue that even Right. No. No. I Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, I got to own I got to own the past because I'm here today and I got to be the one who I was not I was not here when any of that occurred. >> No. And I want to be very clear that I'm not blaming you for it. Um, I do blame the previous administration and board for the things that they approved that put us in this position because I am a CFD2 taxpayer and I'm pretty upset about all of this and un and it it feels like once again we're being punished for the mistakes of what people made in the past. Agreed. And I think
089part of what the aspect is related to the way in which CFDs are are written to is that it creates that laundry list. And going back to what Kathy said about Rockling, right? Like because they didn't put more on it, they got pigeonholed into what they could actually spend it on. And even if our district because there's no doubt Lincoln Crossing, Fosket, 12 middle, and uh 12 elementary were overbuilt, right? Like they we we could have built them more conservatively. That said, even if they were built like we are building schools today, we still would not have had enough money from the CFDs to not have to go into further debt and look for revenue sources elsewhere because we were never going to collect. There's no way based on the the agreements that were made
090that we were ever going to collect from CFD1 and CFD2 enough to fund all of the schools that were listed on that list. And the reality >> even even if we built them even if we dropped portals probably >> and and I mean just big picture here even in 2030 you're projecting just over 2,000 middle school students districtwide. That's not three middle schools that's two. >> But we will have three though by that point. We will have a K through eight by 2030. >> That those students are not in that number. >> So those students aren't counted in our particular number. We're I'm looking at just the projected enrollment for Glenn Edwards and 12 Bridges, not including like TK8. So >> So there'll be between those two between Glenn Edwards and 12 Bridges Middle, there'll
091be 2,100 students at those two schools. >> Those not including any kids out of village 7. >> No, the village 7 kids aren't in that enrollment number. >> The village one is in there is village one. >> Village one is in there. >> Okay. So how many kids are in village one? >> Those are all going to go to Glenn Edwards, correct? Yes, they're all one. >> So, our 100 kids can't fit at 12 bridges middle. >> They can't fit there now. >> Yeah, they're not. We got to fill up 100 kids. We got to free up 100 kids at grade level. We need room for 300 at at middle school and 400 at the high school level. So, there's 5600 um village one is 5600. Is that right, >> M? Yeah. total say 2500
092kids total um out of village one yeah active adult so I don't know Marie I'll have to get back to you on exactly how many middle school students I don't have that >> that's fine so so then village 7 is building the TK through 8 >> we can get funded >> there what that's we could get funded >> yeah so why not route the link crossing is there since it will not be fully impacted by 2030. It'll be brand new. I I would like to know why we can't do that when I have proposed >> time for an inter district >> but we can't draw the boundary line for it to go there that would leave the boundary as being until that school is built so that exists >> the taxpayers with CFD2 don't feel
093like we have taken the middle school from them that they help fund is that a possibility could >> I'm trying to be I'm trying to be equitable because it feels like this is the most inequitable solution for this area. >> We can't do an interd district priority. >> Yeah, we would do inter interd district priority. >> So you still insist on moving the boundary lines to slow them to Glenn Edwards instead of leaving them at 12 Bridges Middle where they've been going. >> We we don't have the space to accommodate all the kids that are coming out of crossing 12 Bridges area. >> Okay, I'm going to move on to more questions. Um, so even though we're trending down, there's still no room for us because we have to make room for all the new
094builds, right, that are coming in. Is that why there's no room for us over there? Because of the new builds and 12 bridges. >> The the people who are moving into 12 Bridges are right now new are being overflowed from both 12 Bridges Elementary and 12 Bridges Middle. And those that are moving in are paying into the CFDs as well. They're going to pay for the next 30 to 40 years depending on what safety they're they're paying into and they will they will pay the same amount of time. >> Yes. >> Yeah. But I'm like I'm already committed to 20 years of payments in 20 still to go. So I feel like I should have priority over somebody who just bought the house two years ago. >> And that's not >> I mean I know
095that sounds terrible. I mean but it's equitable. You know, time is money and I've spent a lot of money and a lot of time paying on the taxes and I know a lot of people feel the same way. I mean, I know that sounds like a difficult boundary to draw. You know, we got to cut carve out what's who lives in what house and how much money they've paid in, but Well, we and we did based on your feedback before, we looked at the the portion kind of near Kaiser and where John Adams is and and it was 26 kids, I think. Mike, you had done the math on that based on that. So >> there's only 26 kids at >> that we're projecting out. >> Is that per grade level >> or >> that
096total? >> That was right now out of the area >> right now >> per grade level. >> The majority of that was the business area and >> most of that is commercial. The part that you shared with us. >> Okay. I don't know. I just I feel like once again this community is paying the price for the deeds of the past and it's completely unfair. Um this is probably one of the worst board nights closing down a school and hurting an entire community there once again hurting another entire community and and it's not just all of Ling Crossing. We're dividing the community. We all play intramural sports together. I mean you're completely dividing a community. I can't in good conscious I cannot support this at all. >> Do you want to ask questions? >> Um
097maybe not as a bunch of questions but I think what we're seeing here is well I'll start it with a question. Why why cops? Why why did the I don't know why did the or the I think it predates you right. definitely predates me. Um, it's a it's a bad decision. I I I don't have a great answer for that. Um, I'm on the record in 2007 saying I don't know what they were thinking. So, why did they use cops? Because the CFD tax revenue wasn't enough to get the amount of money they needed to build the four schools that they were building. So, with CFD taxes, you have to have um what's called debt service coverage. So, you issue a CFD bond and you have to have tax collections in excess of whatever that
098debt service is. Um, some situations the credit requires a 20% coverage, sometimes it's a 15% coverage. In other words, you have to collect 20% more than what the debt service is. So, my guess, and this is an educated guess after reading document after document, um, is that the board decided at the time they needed to get as much money as possible and so they issued the coops because there were less strings attached because it was a general fund obligation, not an obligation of the taxing district. That's why I believe the decision was made. Um but they still overextended themselves and they reduced the amount of that last cop they issued. Um they actually there was a cop issued in 2006 that was originally supposed to be 75 million. They only issued 50 million. Um so
099they needed more money than they even issued. Um but it was a financially irresponsible decision. >> So why why why haven't we restructured and gotten out of cops? Is there >> you have restructured you definitely restructured. >> Why are we still using COPS? there no other's just paying them off. >> You're just paying them off. You're you're still living with the sins of the past. Um so CFD cops as a tool if it's done responsibly can be an effective funding mechanism. It is the way they were issued is what the concern was because there really wasn't a guaranteed revenue source to repay them. Only a portion of the revenue source was guaranteed and that was the CMD tax. >> This will never be paid off in my lifetime. >> 2049 Um I don't >> paid
100off in 2049 if we continue >> hopefully. I mean and actually Marjorie that's because you remember from the COP update there is a general fund liability beginning in 2042 based on our last projections the district could decide at that time instead of of hitting a general fund obligation to actually refinance them again. That that would be painful but that's >> why do I foresee the future right now? Um I >> when I came into the district in 2014, I think it was going to be hitting the general fund in 20 >> 24 years after 2024. >> We're now at 2042. >> And that's because the board designated additional funding for that COP fund balance. That cop fund balance is essential that we keep talking about. That designated fund balance is what's preserving your general your
101general fund and protecting it. >> It's it's not just that. We hired you as well, right? So that's one of the other uh I don't know I don't want to say costs that seems mean but investments uh so as not to repeat the sins of the past and a lot of other things have happened too and I think this particular issue draws out a lot of very emotional and personal feelings and it's not just been felt by us and by staff the district but it's been felt at the city as well and there are people that are looking for who's the villain like who do I who do I where do I send my ink, right? And um I don't I don't know if there is a smoking gun here that you can say it
102is their fault. Here here's what I will say. Um there there's no real and correct me if I'm wrong legal obligation for developers to strike a deal beyond the statutory minimum which we have been told over and over again pays for like about a third of a single elementary school. Uh even though costs to build these schools keep going up astronomically. So that's all that new development is statutoily required to pay for. >> Correct. So what it requires then is it requires a city to through its planning process engage in meaningful conversation with developers to say listen you have got to fund the school otherwise it lands on the backs of taxpayers that don't have kids in those schools. And I want to say that the relationship that we've built with the city currently is
103the best that I've ever seen it. Yes. >> That there is now collaboration between the two entities. And sometimes when you hear people say the city's growing irresponsibly, I don't know if they mean the borders of the city or if they're talking about the leaders of the city. I don't know which it is. What I will say is people have the right to do with their private property as they see fit. If they want to sell it to development, this is America. Go make your money. We on both sides of the tables uh downtown and here have to deal as best we can with the decisions that get passed along and we have to try and build in concert. What has changed and what has moved forward in a much more positive way is these
104two organizations are now seeing each other as an important part of what they do and there's a lot more collaboration than ever has been which is why I hope that these things start to occur. We've already seen a better deal done in current village projects than has been done in the past. I just want to see more of that synergy continue into the future. And yeah, this sucks. It's just one of the many things that we've inherited that we have to do the best we can to get through. That's what I see. >> You know, it it it's not like we have unlimited funding. Uh we simply just build more classrooms if we could. uh where the students are. Um but that's not our reality and um we have to use the space and the
105funding that we have wisely and I think uh us as the uh our board has to make the decisions that are in the best interest of all of our students and families across Western Plaster Unified School District, not just one area. And um we can't make decisions on one group. We have to look for the entire district. And I know that's not a very popular um conversation. Um but that's our reality. And uh sometimes I wasn't I wish I wasn't elected into this position um to make these type of difficult decisions, but unfortunately um we've had to make a few tonight. >> I'm wondering this is kind of back to basics. How do you could you explain your how do you get money to build schools? I I was unaware of that at one time.
106It's a third a third and a third. Could you just give the fundamentals to that because it looked as though lots of money is floating around. However, why don't you explain how it works? >> Yeah, and George, that's actually a really good point. So, you talked about what I refer to as the three-legged stool. Uh, and school construction in California was built on this new school construction California was built on this concept of a three-legged stool where a combination of new development, state funding, and the local community each fund a third of school construction. The numbers don't nicely work out that way, but it's kind of close. The challenge here is number one, the state requires matching funds. So, you must match them from these local sources. The state money doesn't come at the time
107you start construction. It comes four to five years later. So, then you're doing bridge financings which cost additional funding. Um, and local community funding is generally through a general obligation bond. >> Okay. Go going back, >> I think a perception is if you build a new uh community of of houses and housing development that the the builder and the new people that are moving in there pay for the new school. >> Yep. >> That I know that is the case, but I didn't know that wasn't the case before. >> They they pay for sewers. >> They pay for about a third of it. Right. >> It's about a third. Um and they they are there's no um under several 50 um the school district can't and the city can't withhold a development project on the
108basis of school funding. And so that poses a lot of challenges. >> Risk money for the schools. They still are allowed to build. >> They they can still build as long as they pay their statuto fee. >> Yeah. So that's their third. The builders have a third. The state pays a third eventually after they >> after they a little while. So it diminishes it because you got to borrow to pay get it >> after they steal the float. They they pay their money. Um and then the other money is going to come from bond issues or something similar to that. >> It's local funding really is the form of general obligation bonds and a community has to pass the general obligation bond to fund that facility. But they also have to weigh that with modernization
109needs and all of the construction needs. So that's the big challenge. So theoretically, you could have a community where the builders put in a third, the state puts in a third. If you don't pass a bond issue, you're screwed. I mean, you're not going to have a school, are you? >> Correct. >> You can't build two >> build two of a school. Well, >> possible. >> Kind of a little bit of that was bridges high school. >> Yeah. Okay. And it's it looks finished, but it isn't finished. There's still things to be done. >> Correct. So, first of all, I want to say I'm very sympathetic and the people here and I'm very disappointed in what people did in 2007 and 2006 that the fact that I'm disappointed doesn't change history and they they created
110some really stupid debt. I >> mean, well, I'd like to have you sit down and say, did you look down the road and see what you're going to have to pay? Maybe they didn't or maybe they were hardressed and they wanted water in schools and they they made some terrible decisions that we're stuck with and I think a decision we may have to make is not one that I'd like to make but we may have to do so today. Y um so back to the bonds, we have talked a lot about having bonds in specific areas, one 12 bridges area, one here. Can you talk about the what the future looks like if if we can do that timing and what the impact would be on our especially on >> Yeah. So the concept of
111kind of splitting the global the bigger district into two separate areas is kind of a newer conversation that we've dabbled in over time. But what we're seeing is the needs happening in the southern part of the district are very different than the needs in the northern part of the district. And I don't mean to kind of separate north and south, but that kind of is what we have. We've got Carlin Coffin that has significant renovation needs and significance is not even strong enough word. Um, we've got Creek Side Oaks that has improvement needs. Lincoln High needs improvements there. There's some significant modernization needs at some of our older facilities, but if you look in the southern part of the district, we have capacity needs at our middle and high schools. Um, so you've got different
112needs and if you look at what the community will support, they're not supporting the needs of the other part of the community. So, one concept is to do what's called a school facility improvement district. It is a general obligation bond in a portion of the district's boundaries and the portion of the district the northern part would fund could fund if they supported it those modernization needs. The portion of in the southern part of the district could fund those capacity needs. The reason a bond would be needed for the capacity is those costs are so high the district just doesn't have the resources. There aren't enough developer fees to go in and expand 12 middle school because of a lot of the infrastructure. It wasn't built to expand. And so there's infrastructure needs that need to
113be addressed before you can even add classrooms. 12 Burgess High School, there's new classroom buildings that are needed, but it's going to take a significant capital investment to do that. And you also have to have the appropriate support facilities. It's not just classroom buildings, it's having support facilities. So if you bifurcated the district, each portion of the district could pay for those specific needs. We are running some numbers now about financially that could actually work out. Um but timing wise, the earliest the district could consider that would be in the 2000, sorry, 2026 um election, the November election. It could possibly go to 2028 election cycle. There is no election opportunity in 2027. Oh, and one more thing on that, April. Um even if you have an election, you don't issue the bonds the day
114after the election, there's a little bit of lag there. And then there's kind of the planning. So even the implementation of a bond like that would be about five to six years. >> Okay. So >> and then my last question then okay my last question and maybe this is for Carrie. Is there any option I know we've thrown a lot at you trying not not to have to make any of these decisions tonight. Is there any option that we have not explored that you can think of that we haven't explored or that you maybe have thought of that can Thank you. >> Okay. Well, brand me selfish and feeling fiscally responsible for my community. I'd like to make a motion that we not change the boundary for Lincoln Crossing Elementary until the new 2K through
1158 is open. That's my motion and continue to overflow the students like we have been. No. Guess not. >> Second. Sorry. >> Okay. I totally get what you're doing. Like 100%. I wanted to say I want to say the same thing, but what's the solution? Like what's the solution for the district with that pool? >> I'm not just looking at being selfish for the community part. I'm also looking at bonds ahead. Good luck getting them to approve or help us get a bond if we take them out of the school they feel that they are paying for not having access to there's a bigger picture to all of this but a bond would put them back >> but they you kick them out they're going to support I mean that's common sense would you >>
116I mean you're just I mean you're just not talking about just for that area you're talking about all for all of 12 bridges area that realize that we have we are having capacity issues and will continue to I'm going to be >> I talked to John Rey today quite transparent. He's really worried about this us doing these boundary changes is going to affect the city going for their bond because this is a huge voting demographic and that if we pass this that the city won't be able to get theirs and he was honest with me and he said good luck getting yours one day. >> What's his solution? >> He bounced ideas off me. I don't know. He talked to Carrie today too. I don't know. They talked about that, but I mean >> he
117told me to do the overflow thing like we have been doing as long as possible. He said to go for it and so I did. >> So I talked to Kerry about the overflow today and I asked her what if she was getting push back and she said absolutely. So I don't think the overflow was much better. do. >> And the issue that's that's coming up is that the overflow is going to become more of an issue because we're not just talking about new students that were overflowing because we're at capacity. We're talking about getting to a point where we don't have enough space for all of our sixth graders or fifth graders from the to go to the middle school. So it's how do we create an over it now creates the whole thing
118of we're talking about this lottery system and other and then and it's not just from Lincoln crossing to uh it would become the whole piece of we're talking about from 12 Bridges Middle and any new people coming in from that are in any of those areas that want to go to 12 Bridges Middle or to 12 Bridges High School. So, it's not the overflow that's occurring right now. We're able to do because we're talking about new people coming in. >> Mhm. >> And that's it. Like, we're getting to a point where we don't have capacity to do the kids are already in the hold. >> I understand that. But, see, in my head, I cannot get past the fact that we're told that we're trending down. So, we have less students year after year going
119that way. Lincoln Crossing Elementary does. So it does not make sense. >> But but but it's still but there's going to be more from Bridges. There's going to be more from Leman. There's going to be minimal less from Crossing Elementary. And the 100 that we need right now the the fifth grade class of uh crossing is 92. So we're technically eight kids short. It gets us within that decision. with with the changes if if this gets approved, will you still be overflowing >> from 12 elementary? We will be over still after this. It will still be overflowing >> for the elementary school. >> Just for the elementary because that school is not big enough to support all the students up in that area. >> Okay. Yes. And it and it the overflow is at the
120kinder like not everyone who registers at kinder necessarily gets the spot and then any new students who enroll at other grade levels are getting overflowed if there is not space. Okay. Any more questions? Okay. Okay. Well, I'd like to uh make a motion that we accept the boundary change as proposed by the school district. >> Do I have a second? >> I will second that. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> All opposed. >> Okay. Motion passes 41. We'll move to 6.8. 8 revised uh revised new policies uh board policies um 6141.2 recognition of religious beliefs and customs uh board policy 6142.1 sexual harassment and HIV/ AIDS prevention instruction. >> I don't know. >> Oh god. you just >> Okay. So, the provision of new board policies. >> Um, so this is our
121standard process. So, they are in front of the board for a first review and uh and then uh coming back again at our next board meeting for consideration for adoption. So, so I did review these. Um I had a question about the first one the um This is the second page and it says the district shall and this is marked out. The district shall respect the rights of parents guardians to supervise their children's education on these subjects and to impart values regarding human sexuality to their children. I was wondering how that was marked out. The second page, the third paragraph. >> Third paragraph, second page. >> Yeah, it's just one sentence. the district shall respect the rights of parents. That's marked out. >> Um I think >> I think it's because it's embedded elsewhere. >>
122Yeah, it's embedded up above. And so that um there's really no like specific change to this policy. It's really just clarifying um >> where is it in the paragraph above it? >> Well, two um two paragraphs above where it says the district's educational program district educational program is crossed out. It's just re it's the way that I interpret this and and you have feedback. I'm open to it is really it's about putting the the um the obligation um or giving the right back to parents and guardians to supervise their their child's um education and their values. Um that that's what it's saying over and over and over again like it's everything that's crossed out is is giving that right back to families. If you if you look at the f the second the second paragraph
123it says the because you see the district's educational program is well the dis the is not the district's education program is cropped out. So it's the district shall respect the rights of parents guardians to supervise education on these subjects and impart values of their children regarding human sexuality. That's that's what's crossed out essentially. So they they reorganized it slightly. Oh, so district it doesn't it's that's where it was in the previous uh piece and they just eliminated that sentence and incorporated up in the in the top of the other one >> and before it was weird because they should have just left that scratch that whole thing. They only left that one sentence. It just felt like it was >> maybe had a different meaning. It's um and and most of it is because of
124the second. So if you look at the so that one the bigger paragraph, it crosses everything out, right? But it essentially moves that the the one that got scratched out in the third or the fourth paragraph, the little one that you were talking about. It moves it up because it's now becomes ahead of a a completely new paragraph that now addresses it in more detail as it relates to the administrative regulation that has to be in place. >> Okay. All right. I I think I would also say though that this these policies provide greater clarity around how families notified and have an option to opt out versus before I was really in the district this is what we're doing and then it was kind of left at that and this really brings families back into
125the picture to be able to say that's okay I want my child to be a part of it. >> Yeah. I didn't it didn't read that way. The whole thing did have that theme which I liked. >> Um was there any is there anything that we cannot opt out of? I know that there are some things that are not but it didn't I didn't read that in here that there was is there something that is not that you cannot opt out. >> So the only thing that you can opt out of is the sexual health education which is what this speaks to and there's like that's a broad term that's used to more of it. There's also some new language with the mood versus tailor part where families have opportunity to opt out and that
126information is all over our website and families can do that. We've had zero engagement in those policies since that has started and then um our board has made a decision to opportunity for you to give an English study curriculum which we're going to come back and talk about in a couple of weeks. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. Thank you. >> Yeah. >> And that's all they had on policies. Do you have anything, >> you know, because with that whole Muhammad Taylor thing and all parents say is religious values and they don't have to read any. It's probably the most >> foreign friendly >> and you all have a copy of like our procedure. I've shared that with you all a few times. It's on our website and I monitor that know it. >>
127Okay. >> Are any other questions on the policies? >> Okay. Um there are um several references to the future agenda items. You guys can all see that on your screens. Looks like there's several that are ones ongoing, several to be determined based on when we get the um information. Any other anything you want to add to I would like to add um 8727 discussion. The requirement of the Trevor Project um information on our student cards have some serious safety issues uh said concerns with that. So we could get that. I mean I think it's uh we have to we have to um January >> I think it's July July. Oh, was it July 2020? It would be for essentially next next year. >> So, we do have some time. So, maybe if we get it
128at the beginning of the year somewhere. Totally. Not at the end of the year, but >> beginning of that way. >> Beginning of the calendar year. >> The calendar year. >> Yep. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Uh the next meeting uh is uh November 18th at the uh school board uh district office city hall at 6:00 p.m. New Jersey.