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ACPS Regular School Board Meeting - Thursday, October 9, 2025

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2025-10-10
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Amherst County, VA
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001[Music] All right. Thank you. >> All righty. Welcome to the uh October Ammeris County School Board meeting. Um before we start with a moment of silence, Dr. Wells, anything necessary? We're good. Perfect. So, if we could stand for a moment of silence and pledge allegiance, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. I must admit I love hearing the little ones say the pledge of >> allegiance. >> So, um, you want to unmute that one? Okay. So, um, we have a couple on going to be calling in on phone. So, there's a script I must read here. So, bear with me. Uh, according to the Ammeris County School Board policy BDD,

002a schoolboard member may participate from a remote location due to a medical condition or personal matter that prevents the member's physical attendance with the approval of the majority vote of the members present at the primary meeting location. In order to offer this opportunity to the remote board member, a quorum of the board must be physically present at the preliminary location and arrangements have been made for the voice of the remote participant to be heard by all. Do we have a quorum of the board at this time? >> Yes, sir. Yes. >> Okay. So, Miss Thompson, are you able to hear us? >> I can. >> Uh, Miss Saunders, are you able to hear us? I can. >> Okay. So, they have stated that they are able to seeing that we have met both criteria stipulated

003by within the policy BDD. At this time, I ask for a motion from the board that Miss Thompson and Miss Saunders be allowed to participate in the meeting remotely with all rights of discussion and voting afforded to them. >> So moved. >> Okay, we have a motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? I seeing that the eyes have it, we welcome Miss Thompson and Miss Saunders and we will make this happen. All righty. So, board um Okay. >> Approval of the agenda. >> Mr. Mr. Chair, I'd like to amend the agenda to have a close session at the end of the meeting to discuss a student matter. >> Okay. Okay. A motion. Okay. Second. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. >> Mr. Chair, I move that we approve the agenda. >> Okay. We have

004a motion. >> Second. Okay. All in favor? >> I >> Okay, >> Dr. Wells, recognitions. >> Yes, sir. >> Are you going to do those or somebody else? >> Okay. >> All right. So, we have Mr. Chair, members of the board, we're going to recognize our students of the month for the month of September. And when I call your name, please come forward and we'll stand up here. Once you once you up here, we'll wait till everybody else gets up here and do a photo at the end. Parents, you're welcome to take pictures at the end as well once we get everybody up here. Um, so I want to just instead of reading everybody's three paragraph accolades, I'm just going to kind of summarize those really quick and just say that, you know, the the

005words used to describe our students include trustworthiness, positive, positive attitude, they're hard workers, they're leaders, they're polite, they're resilient, they're team players, they're dedicated, they have good attendance, they're a helper, they're a role model, they're a friend, they have good character. Um these are all the words that you know describe all of these students and we want to recognize them tonight. So as we recognize these students again ask them to come forward. I'll call their name in their school and do we want to thank them for all they do to make their classrooms and their schools a better place. So when I call your names please come forward from Ammeris County High School. We have Lucas McFatter. Lucas here. All right we'll go on from a Ammeris Education Center. Kennedy Brown. Congratulations get to stand

006the whole time from Ammeris Middle School. Holly Llewellyn not with us tonight. All right. Lenel Middle School. Elena Wear. Make sure I give you the right one. Congratulations from Amalon Elementary. Robbie Lively [Applause] from Ammerst Elementary. Jacob Por [Applause] Central Elementary. I know that she's not going to be here. Kamaja Jones, she's not with us tonight. Elen Elementary School. Dion Salvador Kish Paye. [Applause] I hope I got that right. >> Thank you. Mass Heights Elementary. Sheriana Jones. [Applause] >> Congratulations. and from Temperance Elementary, Aiden Maize. [Applause] >> Congratulations. >> Over, Mr. Ter. >> All right, everybody. Yep. >> Good. >> Great job everybody. [Applause] Sweet. [Music] Next, we're going to recognize our staff members of the month. And our staff members will get a certificate. Um, we had some of those teacher lottery tickets we

007had left over from uh we did our earlier in the year. So, you'll get one of those and plus you'll get your your other gift card. So staff of the month um these are selected by the respective schools or their department. C staff members have gone above and beyond to support their colleagues, students, schools and ACPS. Again, words used to describe our staff include caring, compassionate, a compassionate leader, calm calm demeanor, steady presence, makes connections, kindness, love for children, and a positive attitude. All these things are words that describe them. So, as we go through these, if you're present, please come forward and you'll get your certificate. We'll take a picture from Ammeris County High School. Rebecca Pakar [Applause] from Ammerst Education Center. Andrew Hardy. >> Thank you, sir. Thank you. Is that a couple

008years? I had a good coach. Ammeris Middle School. Christine Ramage. I hope I pronounced that right. Is that right? Okay. Manela Middle School. Rebecca Childris. [Applause] Emlan Elementary, McKinley Styles, Ammeris Elementary, Lauren Higgins. And I know our our staff member from central um Olivia Fernando cannot be here as well. She is not with us this evening. Let me get these right. All right. Sorry. Elen Elementary School. Lauren Butler. Congratulations. Madison Heights Elementary School. Caitlyn Johnson, Temperance Elementary School, Akira Sandage. And last but not least from the school administration building, this is somebody who does not like to be recognized, but we're going to Miss Britney McN. [Applause] Now, >> who's going to take the picture? >> Yeah. I >> I do want to say a couple words. No, you can. You're in the picture. So,

009Miss McNary, I do just want to say a couple words a little out. So, she's been the one since I fell been tested or volunteered volunte whatever it may be to drive me around to make sure things are straight and when I'm not here and so forth. So, I just want to thank her for everything she has done both personally and professionally. um for the school system during the past couple months when I've been kind of dealing with this concussion. So Britney, thank you [Applause] Mr. Mr. Ross. >> Thank you. No relation. >> Okay. So, now we're going to move on to uh public comment. We have two people who've signed up to uh speak. Uh first is uh Toby Thirsten. Step forward, state your name and voting district or address, please. Uh good evening.

010My name is Toby Thirstston and I live in district 1. Uh Mr. Chair, members of the board, with fall officially here, I wanted to come tonight and personally invite each of you to the high school next weekend for the 54th annual Amherst Apple Harvest Festival. The festival is the county's longest running tradition and we have a lot of great things happening this year. Um, since taking over a few years ago, our goal has been to have more student involvement. I'm happy to say that this year we have the Lancer nurse aid students are hosting a blood drive during the festival. Busted knuckle garage students will be at our car show that Sunday. The cosmetology students will be doing the hair tinsel and parades. Art students will be doing face painting. The culinary art students will

011be cooking Brunswick stew. The adaptive classes are baking and selling apple pies. Um all elementary school students in the division color apple designs and we display all of them at the festival and show choir marching band and theater will be performing. These students are working hard to raise funds at the festival and they have incredible support from their teachers. This year we also have the Amherst County Sheriff's Office doing Dunk a Deputy to raise money for DARE. They are recruiting SRO's, deputies, and teachers, but I'm sure they would love a few board members in the tank as well. So, if any of you would like to get in the tank to raise money for DARE, let me know. Along with60 vendors to shop from, I invite you to come out October 18th and 19th to

012support the students. Thank you. >> I just want to go on record that I'm playing music at the car show. I can't go in the dunk booth. Sorry. I'm sure I think of a reason why I can't. >> Thank you. Uh, next, uh, Mr. Porter. There we go. I am Jeff Porter, 478 Woody's Lake Road, Madison Heights, Virginia, District 5. I'd like to speak on a couple of issues. Um, one is I really would like to encourage the community to um really consider the opportunities that this board offers to come and be in attendance at these meetings to hear what's going on and to interact with people who are here from the school board as well as from the school district. It's important to have involvement and um one of the ways that I think

013maybe we could help the public be a little bit more involved would be in the area of the upcoming school budget. Uh it seems at least from an outsider's point of view that there's so much that's already set in the budget and it would be good to be able to know what areas that we really could have as public for having input on how the budget shaped. And if we could have that kind of information, I think that would be helpful and would encourage participation. Um secondly, um at the public hearing that you all had back in September on the 25th concerning the cell phone tower, um I learned a lot from that meeting. Uh that's part of the reason why I come to these meetings because I have much to learn and um so

014I'm grateful for Eric coming up to me after the meeting and help me to understand some of the uh terminologies uh that I could use in a more correct manner. Uh and but also I want to say that in regards to the cell phone tower two things. one is uh I am opposed to it and I am opposed because of health reasons for it and um secondly because I think that it's important because you all are going to be talking about it this evening to be able to hear from each board member particularly uh from those who are attending this via phone for us as public to be able to hear your comments. So I would ask that you would make every effort to speak clearly, distinctly uh so that we can hear how you

015uh look at this issue. Uh this is an important one. Thank you very much. Okay. >> Thank you sir. So, those are the only two we had sign up ahead of time. Is anyone else from the uh audience who would like to address the board? Okay. Well, seeing none, we will move on. Um 4.0 action item. >> Yes, sir. Mr. Chair, members of the board, uh bring forward to you the memo B which was from the policy updates. Uh we were given you received these last month. These are the ones that we had adapted and made a few changes to in our uh committee and we brought them to you as a first read last month and they come as a second read tonight and I ask that you uh approve if if if you

016see so fit for any discussion on the uh the the policies that are brought forth. Okay. Anything? >> Sure. >> Yes, ma'am. >> I just wanted to reiterate again how much I appreciate um the administration meeting with the policy committee and having open dialogue. I want to bring special attention to um the policy sorry uh GCDA effect of criminal conviction or found in complaint of child abuse or neglect through the diligent work of the committee. um we were able to take some components of the VSBA policy that was brought suggested and add it to our current ACPS policy making it um more tighter in the requirements. Um so I just wanted to say I really appreciated that. Um, I appreciated the um, GC part-time and substitute professional staff employment. It gave greater um, versatility for

017our substitutes to be in the classroom for a longevity. So, you don't have to have like two substitutes in the same classroom because the 90 days are up. So that helps our students have greater continuity of instruction and just thankful for it. >> Any other comments, board? Okay. Can I have a motion? >> I move that we approve um the policy changes as presented in Mo. >> Second. Okay. Um we have a motion and a second. All in favor? I >> I I >> Okay, >> Dr. Wells. Good. >> Yes, sir. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the board. Next, we have the Verizon Wireless uh tower contract. The past several months, you've been given information regarding the Verizon Wireless Tower. Last month, Verizon conducted the balloon test and we held a community meeting

018to hear from members of the county. Um at that meeting, we had two residents speak, one in favor and one opposed. We also conducted a survey that ran from September 15th to September 26. The results were as follows. There are 46 responses. 34 were in favor, which is 73.9%. 10 were opposed, which is 21.7% and two are undecided at 4.3%. Um, I believe we've had much discussion on this topic. I would ask the board to make it to vote tonight on whether or not to approve the contract. >> Okay. Okay. Board, um, from a request from a a an audience member, they would like to hear, you know, how we feel about things. So, um, Mr. Rossi, you like to start off? >> Yeah. Um, obviously cell towers are here to stay, uh, at least

019until they come up with a better technology. That being said, um, do they belong on school property? zoning already does not allow them in residential areas. Why is that is my question. Why don't they allow them residential area? Is it simply because of aesthetics? Um I know subdivisions from time to time have empty lots, but they don't allow them in residential areas. Me personally, I live in this particular area. I I know sell service is lacking there. Um, I would have liked a lot more community involvement because it does impact every student that will be going to our school. And I think maybe if we approve it tonight and it moves on to the next step, which would be the county level approval, even if we say yes, the county can still shoot it down.

020So just by us voting tonight doesn't mean that it'll happen. Um, I kind of want this to spark more engagement with the community. um at at the county level. I think that not not approving it here would just the entire community would not have an opportunity to speak on it. And it seems to me like more people get involved when it gets a little spicy. And I think we're at that point now where I think it would be great to have more community engagement on the topic. So, as it's presented, I would support it right now to move it on to the county level for more community involvement. >> Thank you, Miss Justice. >> Yes, sir. Thank you. Um, so I've said from the beginning that one of my big concerns about having a cell

021phone tower on school property is that a school is a place of compulsory education. That means if a quarter of the parents at our school do not feel that a cell tower is healthy for their student, they only option they have is to remove their student from the school. And so I am concerned that that would place some parents in a very difficult position. Second, um, if we put a cell phone tower on this school property, what is the stop there being cell towers on other school properties in our district? Sorry, I had a third point, but it's gone now. Um, the Oh, I remember it thankfully. Um, my understanding is that if the board were to pass this and it was to go before the county, my understanding, and you can correct me if

022I'm wrong, is that according to code, the county is not allowed to include health concerns in their decisionmaking process. Only the school board is allowed to make that um a consideration. So that concerns me. Thank you, >> Miss Lian. You want to >> Oh, yes. Thank you, sir. Um, is when we started this conversation some months ago, I I believe I said that um I I want to rephrase. I would never say I don't care what we do, but I'm going to abstain from yes and no. I was at the public hearing that we conducted, and I would have liked to seen more people there, of course. So, uh, then I read the comments from those who, um, wrote in. So, I'm not making a judgment on that at all because I just don't think

023it was a big enough population to say yes or no. I'm not going to speak on the health of it because that's not in my jurisdiction because if I said it was no harm and then something. So, here I am. I'm going to abstain from this and hope it goes whichever ways the best. >> Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Miss Saunders, would like to hear from you if you could. >> Sure. You guys hear me? Okay. >> Yes. >> Um I have heard the concerns, but I also had a parent who has a student at Manellison reached out to me last night who said that safety should be one of our concerns. Mr. Holmes, the principal of Manellison, cannot have self does not get self service outside of his office. So, I understand the health concerns,

024but also safety should be one of our biggest concerns as well. There's a lot more school shootings than there are fires on cell towers. So, with that, I'm voting yes. And then it will go to the county and then to the board of supervisors for final decision. >> Thank you, ma'am. Miss Thompson, can you weigh in, please? >> Yes. Can you hear me? Okay. >> Yes, ma'am. Um, I really appreciate the comments so far. Um, I think that listening to the community with the survey, um, that we have a good portion, um, what do we what do we say 20 almost 22% that weighed in that were opposed to the cell tower and the majority of those listed lots of links about health concerns. Um, I believe that Mrs. Justice is correct that if the

025school board does move the cell tower forward, the next step does go to the planning commission and the board of supervisors. But the conversation about health concerns is not something that they are allowed by law to consider. So for me as a board member, my first duty is to our students in our schools and in particular our student at our students at Menellison and I am uh aligned with Mrs. Justice in that with it being compulsory education that I feel that we have a good portion of the responses that have some concerns about health issues. This is the only place that we can consider that and when I did my research it's very difficult. Some show that there are some concerns some show that there's not. So who do you you know where do you

026place your understanding? And so my take is that since it's my duty is to our students and if there is enough concern about health issues, I have to be in that stop gap and ask is the school property the right place. So, if our if our community needs additional service, which I believe they do, I believe there's enough places and locations that they can put a cell tower, whether it be on the um electrical towers or whether it's on the ball field or whether it's in the um on top of Walmart. I don't know. you know, this may be the ideal location for Verizon, but for me, with um 22% of our survey showing that there's concerns for health, I would be uh a no on this. >> Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Mr. Childress, >>

027certainly. So, you know, we had the public hearing had the comments. The majority of those are in favor of the tower. Um, and I would probably also suggest that uh everybody that attended it and and the people here tonight all have cell phones in their pockets as well. Um, and then when we think about the safety concern and potentially putting it if if we didn't do it and the baseball um it went out towards the baseball field, it would actually be closer to our students, right? Because right now we're talking about it being 800t away. If it went down towards the baseball field, it's going to be 300 feet away. So, if that's the next next logical location for it to go, wouldn't it make sense for us to put it further away if you

028know that being a legitimate concern? Uh so, with that in mind, uh my vote would be uh to approve. >> Okay. Thank you. So, um I think everybody here, you know, has has valid points. Um there's nobody who wants to put the kids uh in in harm's way. Um I I did go to the public um forum, heard Verizon's input, heard the parents or the uh speakers who spoke for and against. Um I do live in one of those areas where it is tough to get sell service. I live in a dry zone. So uh it's it's it's rather tough. I know the struggle for people who um live in that situation. Uh I don't think it can go any further. If we don't vote yes for it, it can't let the public make any

029further decisions. So, uh I would be in favor of having the tower. So, so from here, we need a um >> Mr. Chair, I move that we approve the contract with Verizon. >> Okay, we have a motion. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Okay, so board, we have a motion and a second. We've just had discussion so I believe we're beyond that. Um >> Mr. Chair. >> Yes ma'am. I'm sorry. Which one was that? >> Just a a quick >> Abby. >> Yeah, this is Mrs. Thompson. Okay. Yes. >> Um just a quick uh note. Um if my recollection serves me right, there was a previous contract that was written with Milestone uh years ago that gave them exclusive rights. So that might be something to be considered before any signature goes on

030this particular document. >> Okay. This >> just a point to note. >> Okay. Okay. What is uh >> whether that one's been rescended or not. >> Everybody here is kind of looking around going >> No, other companies do have they can put other companies on that tower. Is that the question? it. Miss Thompson, your question is, can other companies use >> No, it's not a question. It's not a question. Okay. >> Is if we move forward Yes. >> and you do vote to approve this. Yes. Before you actually sign it and accept it, we need to make sure that any previous contract that gave exclusive rights to sell towers on school properties has been rescended before we have two contracts. >> Okay, understood. >> Okay, >> is all I'm saying. Do >> Dr. Wells, he

031he's not he understands what you're saying there. >> Miss Thompson, when would that have taken place? When would the school board have voted for that? That would have been at the Elen Tower. >> Okay. >> Well, >> Dr. Wells will take care of that. >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you, Miss Thompson. Uh Dr. Wells said he would make sure that's taken care of. >> Okay. Any any further discussion? Board. >> Um Mr. Chair, I do have one comment. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Um Mr. Childress, with all due respect, um I do want to disagree just a little bit about the logic of the cell tower if we don't put it in our property that it would be closer to the students. Um first, we don't know where an alternate tower would be located. Um

032and so we can't go from my mind and say that well if it's 300 ft away that it's going to be closer because we just don't know where it would be. That's all. >> Okay. Okay. Yeah. >> All right, >> Mr. Chair. >> Yes, ma'am. >> I can let you know it was 2015 um when the milestone communications um contract would have been considered accord. >> Okay. Thank you very much board. Anything else? >> Okay. So, board, we have a motion and a second. I'll call for the vote. All in favor? I >> I >> All opposed. >> Nay. >> I >> Okay. So, we have two opposed, >> one abstained >> and >> four four, >> sir. Thank you. >> Four. Yeah. Can't do my math. >> All righty. Uh, Dr. Wells, consent agenda.

033I ask you to approve the consent agenda. Okay. >> Board move for approval, Mr. Chair, on the consent agenda. >> Okay. >> Second. Okay. Uh, all in favor of approving the consent agenda. >> I >> Okay. >> Number six. >> Next, we have our school board reps. We'll turn it over to them. >> There you go. Sorry. Um, okay. So, we're just going to give a synopsis of what has happened at the high school since the last meeting. So, actually tonight our freshman class has had the opportunity to participate in a special production. It is called the freshman takeover. It's a production directed by freshmen and co-directed by one of our history teachers, Mrs. Saunders, but it's completely made up of freshmen and directed by freshmen. Also, this is also the first production in the

034new auditorium. It was a great chance for new students to step into leadership and creative roles early on. We also held another one of our senior breakfastes where a representative from Justins came to share important information about caps, gowns, class rings, and other class of 2026 souvenirs. We also had a lot of excitement for the week of our big game and dance, the homecoming game. We held a spirit week leading up to homecoming and the participation was outstanding. We had so many students and faculty dressing up and showing their school pride that the senior council took over 300 photos of participants. The homecoming dance took place Friday, September 26th, right after the football game. We had four generous convertible owners that drove members of our homecoming court around the track before they walked to the

035center of the field the field where this year's winners were announced. Afterwards, students enjoyed a fun and relaxed homecoming celebration in our beautiful new cafeteria complete with pizza, drinks, and floats. Thank you. >> Hi everyone. Um homecoming this year was a different experience for everyone. I talked to a lot of the students. They said they loved the homecoming was hosted inside the new cafeteria. They say they just loved it a lot more than it being in the old auxiliary gym. Um, looking ahead, we have a movie night on the football field on the 22nd. We'll be watching Hocus Pocus by the ways. >> Awesome. >> Um, we're also charging a bag of candy per entry and that bag of candy is going to go towards our trunk or treat that will be hosted on the

03626th. That way, you know, we can save us some money and just use the donated candy for it. Um, also we have a senior tailgate that is going to be next Friday. We're just going to hang out and enjoy some time together before kickoff. All seniors are welcome to come and enjoy some food and games together. And that's all we have. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Well, you have to let Miss Saunders know that I'm disappointed that it's tonight because I love coming to those uh especially this the freshman takeover. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. So, all righty. 7.0. >> Yes, sir. Mr. Chair, members of the board, uh we will have a presentation by uh Mr. Neighbors on with our instructional team here on the data presentation on

037so turn over to Mr. Neighbors. >> Yes, sir. Good evening, Mr. Chair, members of the board. Uh a couple of caveats this evening before we get launched into our presentation. Uh the word data does appear in the title, but I would be remiss if I didn't communicate to the board that we are disappointed at the level of data that we've received to this point in the calendar from the state. Uh we currently don't have anything that is publicly available for release. We have set you what we've received at this point. Uh so we're going to talk a lot tonight about the framework, the new system, all the different components that are kind of behind the scenes to that. We are very hopeful that later this week and probably meaning Saturday or Sunday, we'll receive some

038additional supports for our consumption that we will share for the board. Uh and hopefully next week is when we're expecting public release of that data. So I wanted to provide that clarity at the outset. Yes, data is in the title, but unfortunately we're a little data light with the presentation this evening. All right, quick look at the agenda. Several items that we're going to uh look at here tonight. Really want to give that background as I mentioned before uh and then talk a little about where we are and where we think we need to be headed as we are going forward. Um also in the interest of time, Dr. Wells asked me to be efficient uh with my presentation this evening, but please jump in at any point if you have any questions. Uh as

039the board is aware, we have had some changes to our accountability system. Provided a bit of a timeline here, so a little over a year ago, uh the board voted to make those changes. And we've kind of been going through some different uh components of that process since uh leading up to our uh release or what we hope will be our release here very very soon of public data. U I will say uh this is one of the few uh things that I will be encouraged by out of EDOA. I do feel like there's components of this new framework that are good, that are more representative of all of our students and ultimately, I think, give us a better picture of where our schools are and how they're functioning. A little bit of a primer

040here before and after. So, prior to this school year, I think we're all very familiar with what that reporting looked like. Very, very much based on that overall pass fail component. Did our students pass the test or not? Some other pieces certainly factored into that, but that had always been that cornerstone piece. still very much primary in regards to the current data uh but much more comprehensive in regards to how they're looking at it. Now, the biggest change and they've been using uh that $10 word bifurcation at the state uh separated out this idea of accreditation and accountability and we'll kind of go through uh as we're reviewing this evening exactly what that looks like. But separating those pieces out really providing us a much more in-depth framework of how our schools are performing and

041what that looks like for our students. So starting this year and moving forward, all of our schools and all the schools across the state of Virginia uh will be receiving a couple of different designations. So first and foremost, we will still see that accreditation designations. That's kind of what we're used to from previous systems that still exists and as we'll talk about here in just a little bit, that represents that we're following the rules that we're doing everything we're supposed to do by code, reporting our data accurately and in a timely fashion. all the things that we're required to do as a school system as individual buildings. We're checking those boxes. Accountability is where we get into what we're typically associating with these types of presentations. How are students performing on the so assessments? Where

042are we at from an absenteeism standpoint? Are they graduating on time? Are they taking the coursework we want them to take? And within that accountability structure, they're going to get a score on that framework 0 to 100. We'll talk about what that means. uh as well as the performance category which will also get a little more in depth into. So each of our schools as we see we'll see hopefully on these reports that we receive over the next several days will have each of these designations as a part of it. We're going to talk a little more about federal identification as we go through the presentation that is also information that we are hoping to receive at least what we've been told from the state as these summary reports are available in the next several

043days. So from an accredititation standpoint, just wanted to provide a quick look here. Very similar to what we've seen in the past in regards to the words that they are using, but this now has nothing to do with student performance on SOS. We're kind of used to that being the verbiage. They've taken that to the other side. This really is are we following the things and doing all the stuff we're supposed to as it relates to our requirements under code, as it relates to our requirements for data reporting to the state. And they've given us nice little visuals on what that looks like here. uh we report a couple of times a year to get that information in and I wanted to provide the board a listing here. These are the 10 pieces that are

044straight out of Virginia code that accreditation connects to. So when we complete those data reports, when we complete those surveys to the state, all of that's going into these different categories verifying that we're doing what we're supposed to, not just as a school division, but as individual schools as well. From an accountability standpoint, this is the big change this year and what this framework looks like. Ultimately, that mastery component where our students fell in passing or failing the test is still very, very important. But it's much more comprehensive. All of our students, even those that did not pass, still count is the word we are using toward scores within this framework. They are recognized within this framework and ultimately how our schools are designated as a result of that. There are still a number of

045components that go in beyond performance on the SOS. Again, things that we're used to in regards to absenteeism, graduation rates, and the few others that we'll talk about that have been added in again, I think in a positive way uh as we go through. So, one more look here, a little side by side comparison. I've actually appreciated these charts from the state kind of giving us a visual grounding of what all that looks like, but a true separation of these different ratings, these different processes. Each school will have a rating based on these two new systems, but definitely an attempt to separate what is accreditation and what is accountability for the purposes of identifying our schools. All right, and I'm going to keep on rolling if nobody has any questions at this point. Uh, so

046the framework itself, thinking about accountability, you'll notice at each of our levels, there's different weights provided to different areas. So mastery, that's where we're really thinking about performance on the SOS. Where did our students fall with reading, math, and science? And again, doesn't matter if they passed or failed, all students factor into the ultimate score with that. This is also where we see some data related to our students that are English learners. We'll talk a little bit about the impacts of that here in just a few minutes. For elementary and middle, we still have that growth component being a significant piece of the framework as well as readiness. That's where we find our chronic absenteeism for middle school advanced coursework. I'll note for the high school, you don't see that green portion of the band

047growth doesn't come into play at that particular level. We see much more of that emp emphasis on readiness. We'll talk about the different pieces of that here in just a bit, as well as much more emphasis on graduation as you would expect at that level. To further break that down, all the different pieces I was talking about there, I wanted to be able to provide the board this visual from the state. What are those different pieces that go into those different components of the framework? And ultimately, how is that factoring into how our schools receive that framework score of 0 to 100 and ultimately that credit the designation they receive as a part of that performance framework. You see there middle as we discussed as well as all those components that go into high school.

048I will pause here for a moment and what I appreciate about how the state has rolled this out for a framework when we're looking at readiness especially at the high school level moving beyond the simple uh view of whether or not students pass or failed and so are they really doing all the things that are appropriate for them to be doing at this level to actually be ready when they walk out the door and factoring in all of those pieces I feel like it's a much more comprehensive much more appropriate view of whether or not we're preparing our students for what they need to be doing after graduation. To get into the math here just a little bit, I did want to provide the board a little more context. So, what I've been referring to,

049all of our students are going to count, for lack of a better word, all of our students get factored in uh to these calculations that occur. You'll notice in the lefth hand diagram there, wherever a student may fall, and this is specific to elementary, within that range of passing or failing, they're going to provide a point value that gets factored into the framework. So even if they fell below that passing threshold, there is still credit awarded, you might say, uh within that framework score for those students appropriately, that's graduated at those different levels. Uh but at the end of the day, I think it's important for the board, for the public, for everyone to be aware that all truly means all in this. All students factor in uh when we're calculating our mastery score for

050each of our school levels. Important to note here as we get into our upper levels, especially with high school, that bottom area there, the 0.25 comes off. If you fall below that passing range, it's a 75. So, the only difference there uh especially at high school, you'll notice the same for growth, and we'll talk a little bit about growth calculations uh here in just a bit. Uh but ultimately, those different levels, whether or not a student hit expected growth, may have been above, may have been below. There's also different levels of point valuations for that. Trying to be a little more comprehensive with that view and understanding not every student may hit that particular threshold. How are we still looking at it from a credit standpoint and factoring that into the calculations for each of

051our kiddos uh for the high school digging a little more to with this concept of readiness and again this is something I appreciate about what the state has rolled out. uh the three E the things that we want to see our students progressing in the different categories from a readiness perspective looking at all the different activities the different decisions that students and families are making that are accounted for in this framework and awarded credit for uh I will draw the board's attention we're talking about enlistment that ASVAB assessment uh not one of the just one of the reasons we've talked about that rolling out it's a very valuable assessment gives us a lot of information uh from a prevocational standpoint but it also his credit so to speak within this particular framework. It's an opportunity

052for students uh to participate in that for us to get some additional data but also increase that readiness score within our school framework. So the state has really looked for ways and opportunities to bring more of that comprehensive view in and make sure that's being recognized as schools are receiving those framework scores and designations. one more time because three I think is the charm with this uh breakdown of the different framework components and what goes into it, the different percentages involved in those components for different levels. Again, mastery continues to be a significant component uh but much more holistic you might say than in previous years with how that's being tabulated. Uh you saw earlier we were referring to performance categories. So in addition to that framework score I should say based on that framework

053score each school will have a performance category awarded to them. So 90 and above would be distinguished 80 to 89 on track 65 to 79 off track below that needing intensive support. As you'll see here in just a little bit, the schools that we'll be referring to here in Ammeris County all fall within those first three boxes, which we are glad to see and that no one's falling in that needs intensive support category. I do want to caveat here for the board that there is an automatic component uh if federal identification comes into play. The score does not change, but the category is automatically reduced by one. as we're looking at our projected data tonight. That is something that we'll be monitoring as we get those additional reports that federal identification would result in a

054change to the performance category. And with that, just another quick primer here in regards to federal ID. Um, ATSI, which is a category that we have not experienced here lately in Ammeris County, that will not be recalculated till 2028. So, we won't see that on any of the reports. The three schools that were federally identified last year were in that yellow column TSI. Uh and again, this is data that we expect to see as a part of those summary reports. Once those reports are received, if we do have schools with federal identification, that's information that'll be coming back to the board, be talking about the implications of that, what our plans are going forward to support that school or those schools as would be appropriate with that data. >> Do we anticipate any coming in?

055We are extremely hopeful that that will not be the case. I would say cautiously optimistic with that. Um at this point, we have been planning for and supporting schools as though that would continue into this year. Looking at the data, there's a very strong chance that we've got at least one or two of them coming out. Uh I would not be transparent with the board of say I'd be surprised if we didn't have at least one in that category, but I do expect it'll be different from what we had last year. >> But that's based on what the other schools do. See, there's no magic number. versus if you score here, you're automatically in there. You have to do that comparison to make sure your scores. If you go back, Josh, real quick, if you

056go under where any school with one performing student group scoring below the highest performing CSI school, so if there's a school that's in CSI and one of our groups drops below where they scored, then that school could theoretically be in there. So, it's not a we we have to wait until the state does their tabulations to know if we'll have one in there or not. >> We do and that comparative data does change. Last year, there was a threshold established. The threshold changed unexpectedly and that's actually when our three schools came into play with that. So, we're going to continue to monitor. Again, they're telling us when those summary reports come out that'll be the final determinations, but we'll continue to uh to monitor that and let you know. All right. So, before we jump

057into the data, I just wanted to pause for a moment. I know that was a whole lot really quick. Uh if there are any questions from the board at this point. >> Board, any questions? >> Mr. Terry? >> Yes, sir. >> So, I'm trying to we have the outline of what states state wants us to do. >> We we have information from them on how they're going to do it. >> All right. We have scores. We have scores. We have data because we've sent it to them. >> Right. So, why do we need the state to do the calculation? Is there no way for us to figure it out on our own? It It's kind of like doing your taxes. It's like the government already knows how much you owe. I don't know why you

058got to go to a tax attorney. So, have you got that information? Do we know where we're at? Obviously, you have some idea because you just talked about the one school. >> Yeah. >> Maybe, too. >> Yeah. So, I'm going to show you where we are from a broad perspective here in just a minute in regards to what we've been able to calculate based on what we know from a data standpoint, but also what the state has released. The issue with the federal identification is because that is comparative and we don't know everybody else's data. We're not sure where we're going to fall with that. So, depending upon where other schools or particular groups in schools perform, that would determine whether or not we actually meet the criteria to be federally identified. That's what makes

059that a little more difficult. growth is also included in that where they have our data and and again transparently kind of goes into a black box. We're not quite sure what happens with that algorithm gets sped out on the other side. That is one where we have some questions. Aside from those, we have a pretty solid idea of where we stand and we've been able to verify most of the data we were able to share with the board here just in the last couple of days. those requests that we received. >> And as far as like accreditation, that has to do with entering your data on time and giving them their information on time. So, do they lose a step accreditation by delaying your data back? I mean, is there recourse for that? Is there

060accountability from the state for that? >> Be nice. >> I would be happy to make that suggest throwing that out there. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And we are um glad I guess is the right word that they have separated out that process from an accreditation standpoint. A lot of that is the data reporting that we're doing on an air constant basis up here, but then they also ask us to self-verify and collect that evidence. Are we doing all those things that we need to? But I would be happy to pass that suggestion along next time we talk to you. Yes, sir. >> Thank you. >> All right, any other any other questions? >> Okay. >> All right, neighbors. >> All right. So, before we get to the next slide here, I do just want to emphasize

061a couple of pieces. So number one uh this is not anything that we've received from the state. So we have not been we have not received a framework score for each school. We have not received uh a category for each school. This is based on our calculations. We have based that in part on data we received from the state. Since that data is still embargoed and since quite frankly they are still working on verifying that data, we have done our work to project what we believe we'll receive when these summary reports come out. Uh but because this is us and we created it, we're sharing it with y'all and publicly tonight because it's our data, not the state's data. Uh so looking at where we have projected that our schools will fall, uh each of

062our schools listed there, you'll see that framework score out of 100. So 0 to 100 is the scale there. And as we talked about a few minutes ago, those different performance categories are based off of that score. So all the different components that we've been talking about under mastery. So thinking about our reading performance, math performance, science performance, the growth indicators that we have, how we're doing with chronic absenteeism, advanced coursework, the three readiness framework, all of those, all that data goes into a formula results in numbers at the end of the equation that gets added up and that's where we get that framework score. So based on that, uh we are very excited and hopeful again to see that we will get that report from the state as the high school being distinguished. The

063majority of the rest of our schools we are looking at an ontrack designation. So that 80 to 89 score range and several of our schools following just below uh in offtrack. I will note here for um Amalon, excuse me, Mattis Knight specifically, we were right outside of that on track category there and looking at the framework we've been able to calculate. we are able to identify those areas from a framework standpoint where work can be done to get up into that green category to get on track with that. Um obviously understanding that beyond those two schools central elementary school we're going to continue to work to get stronger within that offtrack category and where we need to be on track. But again, our initial calculations here, we wanted to be able to share that with

064the board in absence of summary reports. But very glad to see aspects of that data, but is usually the case. We know there's still work to be done on some of those pieces. >> All right. Before I move off of here, we'd be happy to answer any questions might have. >> Mr. Chair. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Um, so Mr. neighbors. If I'm understanding this correctly, when um we're looking at the preliminary data review, you went in and you took our data that we have from our students from last year and you inputed it into the basic formula that we have been given as far as a framework to estimate approximately where our schools will be. Is that correct? >> That is correct. with one tweak. So, we used our data to verify the data that

065the state had sent us to make sure it matched up with what we had and then we did that. Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> Order. Anything else? >> Okay. >> All right. So, looking at where we are, where we've been, and and where we're headed from here. Obviously, once we receive our summary reports and especially looking at uh those federal designations, if that does come into play, there's going to be some additional conversations, some additional evaluation of resources and needed support. But wanted to give the board an overview of what that's looking like uh so far this year. Uh so an important piece for us and this started all the way back um in May and into June looking at who we want to be, how we want to

066operate, what does it mean uh to be instructional leaders here in Ammerst County Public School with a lot of what we've been talking about which is fed directly into this new framework, this concept of all means all. What are we doing to make sure that all of our students, just like our uh mission vision says, every child every day, how are we making sure that we embody that in our practices instructionally and really working to make sure every student has what they need? We want to make sure that from a process standpoint, working with our administrators and teachers that we are targeting the right things. We want to be able to focus on student learning. We want to have that collaborative culture and support each other. We want to make sure that we're constantly looking

067at those results and we're getting where we need to get to with each and every one of our students. And the messaging here that Dr. Wells kicked off in July at the leadership conference about having those strong foundations and moving forward together uh has really been our lighthouse as we've gone through and here into the school year. Uh so a little bit of background on our timeline here. uh went out in May uh after I was initially announced, did my world tour, got around to all the schools, met with a good number of our staff members. Uh we needed to know how things were going. We needed to understand from their perspective, what's working, what's not, what do we need to look at differently? How do we bring that perspective into our direct planning and

068how we're making decisions for instruction here in Ammeris County? that role directly into a number of conversations with our full leadership team, not just here at the schoolboard level, uh, but all our building administration, all of our folks working in schools and leadership capacities to really talk through where are we, where do we need to go, what's working, what's not, how do we make sure that everything we have in place is working for what we know we need to do for our students. All of that channeled into recommendations. There was a collaborative agreement amongst that entire group about where we need to be, rolled straight into our July leadership conference where all of those pieces were launched and then into each of our schools here in the fall at the beginning of the school year.

069Really endeavoring at every single step to make sure that we have the voice of our teachers, of our administrators, that we have that collaborative consensus, that agreement, uh, and we're all collectively committing to those same things. ultimately the efficiency of our processes, the focus and intent. Our processes are the beneficiary area of that. We're able to see things are actually moving forward the way that we need to and automatically, not automatically, excuse me, ultimately the response that we've received at least early from staff, from administrators has been very positive with that. We've used their voice. We've used what they've told us is working and not and trying to make sure those processes are where they need to be with those and put some different pieces in place here for the board to be able to

070look at. We want to be moving to action. We want to be streamlining. We want to be honoring our folks time and their voice and their ability to work together and support each other. Being able to make sure that every single one of the things we're putting into place is doing everything we need it to do. uh not going to read all the bullets here for uh the board, but I did want to call attention uh to a couple of pieces there at the bottom. So ultimately, we're constantly getting that feedback, be it through our administrative teams, our participation uh in those PLC meetings each week, being out in buildings, having those conversations. We want to know what we have out there is working, and that our teachers have the resources and support they need

071to be able to move forward with their students. A big part of that is them understanding the menu of supports available to them and giving them the opportunity to select those for themselves. Uh our tool there that's linked at the bottom and I'll be happy to send the board a copy of that. Uh it's a very unfortunate acronym. Ditz is the name of that. Uh we're working on some different names and are happy to take some suggestions of that if the board has it. Uh but essentially providing a menu to our administrators. These are things that are available to you. what do you need for your school? How can we support you? How can we support your staff in a way that's going to match up with what they need? So, aside from the title

072there, a good response initially from that tool and ultimately making them a much bigger part of that planning process where they need to be. Uh the next few slides I've outlined for the board some of the things that are already at play in regards to those resources uh and supports in place. We do feel like we have done well to allocate those resources strategically and make sure we've got technical assistance where that's needed a lot of good feedback from staff and administrators on that here in the first part of the year. But we've emphasized just like with the tool that we just talked about a moment ago. We want this to be fluid. We want this to be responsive. We want to keep those conversations going to make sure the resources we have in place

073are meeting the mark in the way that we need to. uh so with instructional support there the different components the one piece I will highlight uh above all else we've really reinvisioned that liaison relationship this year so each member of our instructional team here at schoolboard office has a school that they are designated to the goal is really to integrate in not somebody from schoolboard office coming in and uh being big brother so to speak to be alongside provide those resources and support to know what's happening so that we can allocate the necessary resources to be able to support and move forward forward. Uh in addition the next couple slides again I won't go through all the different pieces but wanted the board to be aware all the various resources and initiatives that are in

074place for literacy for math for science. A lot of different pieces of play a lot of different resources in the field to be able to support our teachers and move our students forward. And then again here talking about that liaison relationship, the different pieces that we're already engaged with already getting that positive response and again looks a little bit different from a support standpoint this year. How are we coming alongside our staff working with them where they are to make sure they have the resources they need to move forward. All right, so what's next and where are we going to be? A couple of different pieces coming out. we've already mentioned a couple of times here in the next several days. We expect to receive those preliminary summary reports from the state. Uh that'll give

075us what they have initially for that framework score for the performance category. Uh but then also for federal identification. We want to be able to see that uh and know where we are and how that might be able to move us forward or change our course a bit uh with some of those schools if that's necessary. Uh we're anticipating public data release sometime next week. uh they told us we're going to get about a week with the data. So, I'm hoping that tomorrow is the day where they actually release those pieces. We'll see if that happens or not, but roughly a week after we receive those reports is when the public data release is supposed to occur. That will include school quality profiles uh on the VDOE website and we'll be pushing all that out

076from public standpoint, making sure uh everyone is aware of where we stand and how our schools are looking uh for 2425 data. Beyond that, uh we uh we're going to talk about here in just a minute the new cut scores that have been approved by the state. Uh we are expecting further guidance at the end of the month exactly what implementation looks like with that. Understanding that there is an impact there looking at towards the end of this year and beyond. Uh we want to understand exactly from the state's perspective what that's going to look like and how we need to make sure we're equipping all of our staff to be ready for that and understand it. All right. And I'm going to pause here before we jump into cut scores and answer any questions

077the board might have. >> Board, any questions? Yes, sir. >> So, um, six slides back on the instructional program goals for 2526. Um, the first thing that came to mind as I was kind of going through those and listening, uh, on the goal of collaborative culture and collect collective um, commitments um, uh, consistency >> came to mind. >> Yes, sir. Uh because I'm reading review uh and revisions of instructional expectations, >> I'm assuming we're going to have some consistency there with the with those expectations. We're not going to be moving the goalpost. >> That is correct. >> For our staff. >> Yes, sir. >> Um >> and I do want to emphasize there even with this data coming out and I think I I made the comment yesterday in our 2 by two meetings with

078Miss Justice and uh Miss Thompson, the state's going to tell us what they're going to tell us here in the next several days. The decisions that we all came to over the summer that we thought were best for kids are just as true today as they were then. Even when we get this additional reports from the state, we feel like the course is the appropriate one. The feedback we've received from staff so far is confirming that. So no reason to change course. Um I'm not going to say regardless of, but at this point that's that's where I am. We feel like we've got those things in place and consistency is a huge piece. Correct. >> For sure. And then the other one was on the results orient uh oriented um you know teacher and administrators

079determined supports. What what data are we using when we talk about resultsoriented? >> What results? Like what are we using to determine success? When we talk about the supports and how are we determining what supports I mean you listed a whole bunch up there. >> So I appreciate that. But absolutely >> how are we determining using what results? >> Absolutely. So at this point when we're talking about process implementation that's that feedback we're receiving directly from staff from teachers from administrators are the things and pieces we have in place actually producing measurable results from students. So when we're looking at that intervention data, when we're looking at the results of the assessments that we're doing, whether they're common or otherwise for each individual teacher, are the resources we have in play or the processes we

080have in play actually helping with that. And some of that's anecdotal directly from the staff themselves, which we want that feedback and we want to see it. But can we see that progress being made with our kiddos that are engaged in those intervention studies? And that's the piece I was trying to drag out is the >> teacher themselves having direct input into that because >> you know back when I was in school we didn't have all these reports and data. It was really the teacher >> that determined you know that said what I was really needed support and I'm a data guy. I like data. I like technology. >> Yeah. >> But I also know that our teachers know our kids best and they really need to be the frontr runner in determining what supports

081they need. And that brings me to the my li my final comment on that was >> uh in talking about the the new approach with the liaison pushing into the buildings >> I'm very happy to hear that because a lot of complaints that I've heard over the past was that um the school the you guys are providing support >> but they didn't see it as support. They saw it as another admin coming in their building and saying you this is what you're doing wrong. >> Right. That's not a good level of support. And so what they need is people to come in and help them be the boots on the ground. And it sounds like that's the approach I think we're taking. >> Yes, sir. >> And I want to highly encourage that. So thank

082you. >> Yeah. The word there has been responsiveness, right? And I found and long time as a teacher, as a coach providing technical assistance to if I'm there in the meetings, if I'm having those conversations, I'm able to understand where the needs are and move much more quickly to provide that support if it's needed to work with the administration team to be able to do that. And that's really been the goal. Are we in there enough and consistently to be able to understand where that is and provide that support as needed? That's really that's been the goal for sure. Yep. >> Thank you. >> Absolutely. Thank you. >> Okay. board. Any other questions? >> Mr. Terry. >> Yes, sir. >> Um, so you went back I don't know what slide it was, but you you

083had conversations with teachers. >> Yes, sir. and building staff. >> And the fact that you're you you bring them in on this is very very important because we have heard complaints. And out of those conversations, was there one common point of failure that you heard most complaints about? Was there the one common thing or was it multiple things? And did you hear anything that surprised you that you didn't expect to hear? Yeah, I expected to hear things that surprised me. I'll be honest with you. But in general, it was consistent with communication that we had received and even conversations we had had even on Thursdays as part of the board meeting. The themes I guess I will say of it and there was a lot of conversations with a lot of different folks. All the

084pieces that we were highlighting just a moment ago, the consistency of approach, the consistency of communication, the involvement, and really understanding the day-to-day of what's going on within those classrooms. I can't sit and say that there wasn't understanding of that, but sometimes that gets lost in the way that things are communicated or the way that things are perceived and that cuts both ways and being aware of that I think is very very important. Having them have such a substantial voice in what this change has looked like. We knew we were at a pivot point. We knew there was going to be change this year. To me, I couldn't have imagined jumping into this with my team without having that perspective first and foremost, right? to really understand what those pieces are. And I felt like

085that process was addressing a lot of those themes that I was here. We want more of this involvement, more want more of that voice, more of understanding and what all that looks like. And that's really what's driven us as a part of this process over the last several months. So, >> excuse me, Mr. Chair. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Can you speak into your mic a little better? >> And maybe speak just a little slower. >> I will. Absolutely. Yeah. >> So, was there one comment that stood out among all the other comments that you didn't expect to hear or were you expecting to hear everything you heard? Was there something that came out that you said, "Well, I never thought of that particular issue." >> I will go back to my notes and check. I'm

086sure I highlighted something as I was going through, but honestly, in general, it it was things that I expected to hear from a big picture standpoint. It was good to hear the specific concerns because no two buildings are the same. Um, we want to be able to hear what does that look like at Elen Elementary versus correct Madison Heights versus Menelison. U, so having that perspective I think was important, but there was nothing that really rocked me back any of those meetings. It was me nodding my head like I completely understand where you're coming from. >> Great. Thank you very much. >> For sure. >> The board, anything else? So, Mr. Mr. Neighbor, I I will say, you know, listening to some of the comments, um you know, that communication up the chain to you

087is as valuable as the communication down the chain to everyone else. And everyone working together to with that common goal and it's not just well, Mr. Neighbors here, he's going to have to he's going to tell us what to do or fix all of our problems. It's everybody working together. So, thank you for looking at that. >> Tom, I appreciate that. We're going to continue to endeavor to be that way. Not a one-time thing. We're going to get back out and make sure what we're doing now still has us on the right track. >> Okay. >> All right. Well, I'm going to hand this over to Dr. Wills. Talk a little about cut scores. >> So, uh cut scores as I've spoken to some of y'all offline. It's the state is going to make changes

088to the cut scores this year. Uh the board has approved those changes. They've already approved the cut score changes. The question now is when will implementation take place? They meet on October 23rd to discuss that and discuss implementation and how it's going to roll out. And I'll talk about as we go through it. But first, I want to go through the timeline. So from the video, this is from the department of education that they have about 230 subject matter experts and they started meeting in April and May of this year. They went through a standard training committee uh training. The committee me went through a standard training. They did that in June of this year. Uh in also in June the committee members kind of looked at what h what type of statistical analysis they

089will use to determine the the test scores. So I'm going to read this one because I just need to read this part. Committee members use the ID matching method. And I'm not a statistics person so I couldn't tell you what the ID matching method is. Um to determine the value of a question from basically looking at how we score students from a basic to proficient to advanced and this transition becomes the cut score. Um so they went to they're going to use a different type of analysis to determine the value of the question and how that in turn uh makes a question a basic question or a more advanced question and also how they determine cut scores. Um in June again they also recommended to cut scores. They went to the board of education um

090in August and at the August board meeting it was passed in September and now they're going to look at how are we going to get this implemented moving forward. Um some of their justifications for this they looked at minimum scores a 0 to 600 scale is proficiency set to 400. Looking at mastery of outdated standards they felt they had to revised to cut scores to get higher proficiency among our students especially in math and English on the math and English standards. Um they want to align to national benchmarks. One thing you'll hear them say a lot is they wanted to use the NAPE assessment basically line and that's kind of what they looked at for math and reading was that where where does NAPE score in relation to this and how does that work for

091us and so they're using that that was part of their decision-m process and then also they want to make us more competitiveness amongst the state and lead to a stronger workforce and kids students leaving more prepared for work for life after school. Um so on that just so you know that there are lots of things there that went into this. Um I can tell you that very few people sitting in my seat uh were asked to participate in any of this. And so um we really didn't start hearing about this and the cut score changes until August. And so that's when we first started hearing about the cut scores being possibly being changed. And again it was passed in September. So, I want to show you the cut scores and this is basically what it's

092going to be. This is what was approved by the board of education last month. And you can see that um for the readings at the top, you can see to pass the test instead of a 400 being a passing score or 444 for third grade, etc. Reading course at the high school, a 479 is what is required to pass the test to be at the proficient level. Um, in math again the 443 up to a 453 for math to be at that proficient level. Again the one thing you can say about this if we go to that scale that's comp and you we're comparing one to one I don't know if it's going to be a one to one comparison now because that ID method may change the weight values of questions a little bit.

093So it might not be a true one to one measure if we can do a comparison of this year scores to next year's scores which I'll show you here in a second but it is a big change for us going from for those two content areas 400 not being the line which is what it's been since 1998. Um so everybody's kind of come through this with a lot of us not many of us or a few of us have been around before 1998 not many um are still around. So, it's a big change for those of us who, you know, have been doing this that long. But having that 450 to a 450 for a 479 being a cut being that that line is going to be a change. Um, again, some some things for

094us that you need to think about with this. Um, the state is looking is there are going to add or proposed to add a category called approaching. So if you look between basic and proficient, they want to add a column called approaching. And that would be an effect that depends on if they do a four-year roll out or a fiveyear roll out. That's another thing I'll hit in a second, but maybe we're proposing what the state has been hearing is do this over a fouryear to a fiveyear time period. Don't come in this spring and say it's going to be a 444. Okay? Do a roll out. So it's going to be a gradual increase over four or five years. The state board of ed needs to that's a recommendation that that's on their c

095talking points for them to discuss in October. Um but also adding that column in there called approaching and if you're in that approaching column then you would be considered passing the test. It will count as a pass for us as far as rating scales and stuff like that. After a four or five year time period though, those will be the scores. Okay, that's what scores are going to go to as what was passed in September. Question. I know might be confusing. So any questions or >> Mr. Yes sir. So that's proposed to put in that extra column. Correct. Yes sir. >> And that so if it's a foury year or fiveyear that column will stay in until that's complete >> and and the numbers would increase each year >> the cut toward like this year

096it could be a 400. Next year it could be a 410. The following year could be a 420 to get up to whatever that line is depending on the test. >> Understand? Okay. Great. Thank you >> Miss Justice. >> Yes sir. Um thank you Dr. Wells >> in in the past did we always have four levels? >> We always have below basic basic proficient. >> Okay. >> Yes. In advance. >> So that's the same. Yes. And I believe when we had our meeting yesterday, there was the possibility that um the change basically in the so the value of the questions would um make it so proficient is 444, but essentially it's measuring the same level as the 400. So, we don't know which way they're going to go. And theoretically, um, this does draw our

097student achievement higher. >> Yes. >> It just can be a shock to a system like going like if you've been spending your money, you know, you get each month, you know, basically on what's there and then you get a budget and now your dine out budget is this. you can feel like, man, I don't have any money. Well, >> it's going in different places and it can hurt. >> Yeah. >> In the short term, >> thank you. >> Okay. Okay. Board. Anything else? >> Okay. Um, so the state did an analysis of what the impact would be. So, this is the impact across the state um for reading and anything that is in the orange or blue is not passing. So as you look at grade three, you see roughly 60% would not pass based

098on current scores. The same thing for grade four, five. When you get to grade six, it goes into the 58 percentile, 58. Grade seven again around 60 and so forth. So they anticipate based off the changes next year, that's how many students, if you did that apples to apples comparison, would have would not pass. So you're looking at 37% pass rates up to 41 to 45% pass rates. That means you're going to have failure rates of 50 to 60%. Compared. So that's what the state's anticipated based off the change. But again, the thing to remember here though is even if you score below basic or basic with the new announce new system that Mr. Neighbors discussed, your school's still getting points even though they're not getting that one point. They might get a 75 or

0990.2. 25 as opposed to one or 1.25. It's just we're really changing the whole way we've done accountability and it's just changing everything. So, it's going to take time for people to get used to that. It's going to take time for me not to say we're accredited when we're talking about accountability because that's how we've been for the past 30 years. So, just understand that we know there's going to be some some difficulty with how it's changing, but these are what the state's pro projecting it would be on reading. And you can see the same thing here for math. Um again you can see the projection rates there. Anything below the bar would not be passing. >> Okay. >> Dr. Wells. >> Sir, >> how does that take into account what we just said is

100that even the 444 is essentially weighted back to the original 400. >> Well, well, >> so if you if you're waiting it back, then the same level of students should pass. Well, those numbers are staying 444 is 444. That's going to be the pass rate. That's going to be the cut score regardless. What the I was on a webinar today with the state and what they were saying was instead of counting the number of questions you have to get right, you know, changing that formula to get down to a 400, they went ahead and made it so you had to get the 444. But they will there will be more rigor and it will be more um I guess cause students to have to rise the occasion. There will be you have to get more

101right to pass and regardless of what that 400 is. What I don't know is how that that ID method is going to rate questions. I I just don't know that and I haven't had enough input to understand that yet and hopefully I will and I can share it with you. >> And the impact data here, the same thing we did with our data is apples to apples. Maybe you could say worst case scenario. So if there is no recalculation or no softening of that expectation anyway, this is what the data would look like and the state kind of took that approach. We did the same thing with some of our following. >> Right. But that's misleading if if in fact they are going to re um weight it. >> It is >> right. It makes

102it seem like it's going to be worse >> than it is. And I just I want to make sure we point that out to you. >> Absolutely. And again, I'll say I know we mentioned it earlier, that's why we're eagerly awaiting that roll out here at the end of the month of what does implementation actually look like. Would have been nice to have that in conjunction with the cut scores being passed. For sure. >> Yeah. So, what the superintendent have been asking to do a zero year this year versus starting testing this spring. One of the concerns is some schools on a 4x4 block. So you could have students at the high school if you're on 4x4 take the so test in December with a 400 being your cut score and the same class in

103>> May be a 479 being the cut score and how do you figure that how do you explain that to the parents? Well if you if you signed it for it first semester you would have passed it a 400 but now you got to have a 479 to pass to be considered passing. So, some questions there. We have um there are some questions about, you know, how quick the roll out is and how things are going to work. Um so, again, we're eagerly awaiting the board of education's decision October 23rd and as soon as I get something from them, I will share that with you, but right now it's all speculation. There's a lot of things we're proposing, a lot of things they're considering, but again, all that's going to be brought to the board

104of ed on the 23rd for their vote. Um, if you look at our projected impact, so if you look at just a onetoone analysis of if you just do the cut scores based on a 4 400 versus a 430 or 440, grade three, you can see we drop from 59 to a 27. Reading overall will be a 70% down to a 29% across all grade levels. Um, grade 11 EOC course 80 down to a 24%. um if it went in one to one based on where that 479 cut score is. Same for math and you can see the numbers there. So I want to put this out so if it is a one to one we're not in shock, right? But also know that we're aware we're working through this. We're working with our our

105schools. What I want our teachers and our staff to know is regardless of this, right? Regardless of whatever change that is there, we need to do what they know is best for kids and what's best for our building and best for our students. So regardless of anything happens at the state, we can't control that. I have no control over what that cut score is. What I can what we do have control over is how we approach it and how we teach our kids and how we support our students. And that's what we need to do regardless of what those numbers do. We need to make sure we're taking care of our kids and we're taking care of our teachers and they know we're supporting them in this in this process. So that's the bottom line

106here. I can't control that. So I can't really worry about what's out of my control. Yes, we do want to improve performance. We want our kids to grow, but we need to understand that this is a change and it's going to take time for people to adjust, but we want to support our teachers and make sure our teachers are supporting our kids. >> Okay. >> All right. And as a last piece here, um, and kind of as a caveat, just wanted to understand this new framework a little bit better. We did the work of using these new cut scores and put some of that data in just to see what the impact of the framework scores would be and we provided that comparison to the board. Uh you'll notice there's a bit of a stop

107loss even with some of those dramatic drops and percentages that we saw. Uh the framework scores are certainly still impacted but I I was anticipating a little bit more. This was useful for me to understand the math part of it a little bit better. Uh so at the end of the day, this is another piece we're using as we're thinking about what this looks like going forward. understanding the board is going to give us more information at the end of the month. There really is that I too they're looking at all these different components, not just that performance on the so still very important but not not the whole whole ball game as it were. So I thought this was a good thing to be able to see even with some of those precipitous drops

108of the percentages. Uh the framework scores still held a little bit stronger than I expected them to, but we wanted to be able to show that to the board. >> And we're basically looking at a five to six point drop if you did a one to one from those results. So if you're at 90% this year, you'll be at 85 if you did the new the new scores. Okay. >> Questions on that, >> Mr. Terry? >> Yes, ma'am. Um, so if I'm un provided we don't that our pace doesn't increase which frequently when like when we're in high school and we were choosing our classes and we knew one teacher had a bell curve and one was a 94 for an A, you know, it affected how we approached our classes and our work. And

109so, um, when looking at the new cut scores and considering there was a much smaller drop than might have been anticipated when you looked at the reading by itself, um, is part of that because every student is being counted. And so even though um so all students have await and so even though it looked like a much more drastic fall because of how inclusive they're being with the data in students it's not as sharp. >> And you look at that you look at the growth and before the only way you got growth in the previous models was you had to fail the test this year and pass it next year and that got they gave you growth. Now, if you move a band, you can get growth. So, you could have passed it with a

110450 this year, but get a 525 and a corresponding one the following year. You'll get growth. So, instead of being a one, you'll get a 1.25. Um, so that helps too. But also the 0.25s and 75s do add up at the high school. The three E, you know, that was whatif I think 15% of the of the math. >> Um, so those all add up too. Our graduation rates are important at the high school level. you know, having our graduation rate being high gives us a lot of lot of lot of credit there, too. So, all those things add up. It's not just strictly the so test, >> right? And again, from a calculation standpoint, how the framework works. So, um EOCC reading at the high school going from 80% down to 24%. That 56%

111that group of students is represented, they move from a 1.0 to a 75 in the framework score. So there's a little bit of a mitigated uh effect with that which I think is good. I think it's representative that we are doing more than just that one test in that one subject area. Uh but again we got to wait to see what we have at the end of the month to know what that ultimate effect is going to be. >> And I believe in our conversation yesterday we talked about in the readiness one the three E that um having more students take ASVAB. Having that as an option doesn't mean they're going into the military, but we get more points in that readiness readiness piece and our students get a greater um exposure to aptitude and

112um in just preparing for that test gives our students a greater level of proficiency as well. The ASVAB is a very good test to consider your aptitude and what areas you want to go into. It really is better than most other indicators we get for CTE by taking that test. It gives us an idea of a student strengths and so it's a really good measure of that but there's nothing that says you have to join be ready for the military anything else to take the ASVAB but it is a good indicator of strengths of students to know which which direction they should go. >> Yeah. And one more note I wanted to make because growth had come up a couple of times. The system that the state is using uh for this current calculation, this

113is the LA first and last time that'll be utilized uh for these calculations. They have an RFP out now. We're hoping to know more towards the end of the year into January what that new system will look like. I am glad for that and the hopes that we'll understand a little bit better how those calculations work and give ourselves a little more of an advantage with being able to calculate that for ourselves going forward. But we'll keep the board up to date as we get updates in that area. >> In our meeting today, it was stated that they should have a decision by December. At the December board meeting, they should have an answer. >> Board, anything else? Okay. Yeah, I I agree. You know, the DOE didn't call us and ask us what we

114thought about, you know, changing the numbers or anything, but we all know that if we want to hit a higher number, we got to have a higher target. And so, you know, when we move the goalpost, we have to adjust. So, uh, we we're not trying to just get better numbers. We want better kids coming out. So, thank you for all that you're doing, >> sir. Thank you. >> All right. Uh, my last item this evening is our math textbook review committee. There is a memo at your place in board docs. Have Miss Matheni give us a little information on that. Good evening, Mr. Chair, members of the board. As Mr. Neighbor stated, you should have a memo at your place about our math textbook review committee. So tonight, I'd like to ask for a

115consensus so that we can move forward with that committee. And I would also like to invite a schoolboard member to participate on that committee this year. So I'll be happy to answer any questions that you have. >> Okay. board. Any questions? Yes, ma'am. How's he looking? >> Yes, sir. Mr. um Terry, thank you. Miss Mtheini, Mrs. Wheeler. Um on when I'm looking at the three choices here, are any of these ones that we are currently using? >> Uh yes, ma'am. The one that we are currently using would be for the secondary um algebra 1, algebra 2 and geometry courses are using the uh SAVIS and vision. But the other options, the current adopted textbooks are not on the approved list. So we they would not be something that we could move forward with just those.

116>> We'd have to petition basically present to V VOE for an approval of that. >> Yes, ma'am. Now, a question for you. Um, what would it from your perspective, what would the benefit be to sticking with our current program and doing that leg work to um apply to the VDOE for our program to be accepted? Uh well, in my opinion, one of the challenges that we have right now, especially at both elementary and secondary, is that we have multiple textbook publishers. And so it makes it difficult. For example, we have kindergarten, second grade, and third grade using one publisher, first grade, fourth grade, and fifth grade using another publisher, sixth through eight using a different publisher, and then algebra 1, algebra 2, and geometry using something different. And so that is something that our teachers

117have really struggled with the consistency between the publishers because there's not that vertical uh alignment there with the publisher themselves. >> Um and then also with the new rigorous 2023 meth standards um our publishers are not as much aligned to the new standards as these new publishers would be. >> Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. So you you need uh approval of the proposed committee. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Um do you need a motion or is that just a consensus? Okay. Board, any objections to what's listed here? >> Okay. Miss Mththeni, I know you've asked for a school board member to be on it. If you don't mind, I would like to be able to text everybody and not since we have two members who are not here tonight. I'll

118send a text out to everybody. Once I hear back from everybody, then I will send you a message. >> That's perfect. And I would appreciate anybody's willingness to serve on math committee. >> Gotcha. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Thank you, sir. That was all for me this evening. >> Yep. >> All right. Moving on to um administrative services. First, we have some updates on the construction project. So, just a couple things. The fieldhouse is just about complete. We should have our CO hopefully. We're just waiting on um our last inspection for looking at the welds for where the netting went, but other than that um all the little things have been complete. So that's that on the fieldhouse and so we should be able to occupy that soon. Um Mr. Oaks is going

119to go through a lot of the construction project stuff. The good news, a couple of our um rooms, the uh collab space as well as the um teachers lounge. Um we've got the furniture in there, so we'll be using those soon. And then of course the uh four other uh classrooms working on that and the uh space in the um old auditorium. You'll see the pictures. They are really rolling on that. We did have one little setback on the um cafeteria equipment which we can talk about here when Mr. Oaks is done. All righty. So uh since the last meeting, the picture on the left is in the kitchen area as you can see that although picture the uh none of the equipment had been installed yet and the picture on the right is uh

120as of early this week where all the equipment is in place. We still have uh two ovens that came in earlier this week that they're going to be uh installing tomorrow and that will hopefully complete the kitchen equipment in install itself. And then this is just another shot looking back over the preparation area. On the far left side, you can see the hood system. Uh that brown cardboard box you see into the sink and preparation line. That's one of the two ovens. They still have to install tomorrow. Picture on the left here is the freezer. Uh that was a month ago and this is the picture earlier this week. U pretty much fully stocked. We also transport all the the frozen food that we took out of the old freezer uh prior to demo uh

121that uh my staff and I moved to uh Ammerst Elementary into Ammerst Middle School. That's all been brought back over to. So, pretty much ready to go. Picture on the left is the serving area. Uh the picture on the right, picture on the left is a serving area a month ago. Serving area on the right uh earlier this week with all the equipment in place. Um, and the way you're looking to get you orientated is, um, standing where the rollup door is, going out into the cafeteria, looking back into the serving area, and the far back part of the picture is a kitchen area. And, uh, so basically, this will be a somewhat like a cafeteria style serving area, if you will. It won't be a serving line like we used to have in the

122past. And the the students will come in on the left and right side of the picture, come in, sort of roll around through the middle. Uh, both lines will pretty much be the same. And then when they come out coming back towards you uh front of the screen, you can see the milk boxes in place on the left and right where the plans are laying on the left um milk box there. And then um at the register tables right here on the left and right side of the picture and exit the out to go eat lunch. Again, a lot of tile works been gone going on in the last month. This is just another picture of the serving area um in recent weeks. And this of course is looking from the cafeteria back into the

123serving area um on the left side of the picture there that was taken yesterday. And the picture on the right is looking from the serving area back into the cafeteria. You can see the rollup doors in place now. The tiles done. Um so a lot of finishing work is getting completed in there. And as far as the serving equipment, we can uh like I said that's we've had few issues from a shipment. Another thing that the contractor did as a vendor that's held us up a little bit in that, but we're trying to get some workarounds on that as we go through the process uh and go from there. The collaborative teach collaborative lab and the teacher workspace. Uh the collab picture is on the left. You see the glass doors out into the hallway

124that goes back toward the the cafeteria and then the teachers workspaces on the right. Uh some of all that furniture has come in the last couple weeks as well. As we move forward, as Dr. to mention the classrooms, offices in the old auditorium, if you will. Three classrooms in there. The picture on the left is one of the classrooms looking from the door frame into the excuse me, actually the picture on the left is an office space in there. So, we were actually standing about in the middle of the old auditorium on the wall. That left wall is the wall that goes down to the CTE wing and to sort of get you oriented in there. The picture on the right um is actually standing in and looking toward the back of the uh a

125old auditorium where the hallway is in the main hallway where the ticket booth used to be. So there'll be a hallway coming down the middle and dividing those two uh two areas up. Uh these pictures are the nursing lab. Uh they install the the window frame today. So the picture on the left, you're looking from the lab area itself facing back toward the the classroom. That opening where you see between the scaffolding is the classroom. As you see the picture on the right hand side is the framing for the window that goes in there. So you'll be able to see from the classroom into the lab itself. And all that uh CMU has been laid in the last two two and a half weeks. Cosmetology is also progressing. All the demo work is done. All

126the plumbing in the floor is done. The floor has been repported with fresh concrete and all you can see all the HVAC mechanical equipment that electrical lines and stuff that going on in the ceiling and so that's progressing as well. As Dr. Hod mentioned, the fieldhouse has come along. We've got the road paved back there. Um lines on it, parking lots paved. Uh they've been in this week back rating against the edge of the uh edge of the pavement. So all that is pretty much done and and uh tied up in addition to uh the handicap signs, the handicap markings and those type of things are in place as well. In addition to that, the agriculture lab, this is where the four Spanish classes used to be, all three classrooms used to be. And this

127is the area as you come up Lancelane, look to your left, the little parking lot on the lefth hand side which has dumpsters in it. Now, in the last few weeks since our last meeting, we moved the classes from um the Spanish classrooms into the uh their new classrooms and about a week and a half later, they start demoing. Everything's completely gone, you can see the paint lines on the floor. That would be for water lines and those type of things, which talk to the contract. I believe they'll be coming in possibly in the middle of next week to demo uh the floor up, put the plumbing in the floor. They've already done a lot of plumbing up above in the ceiling down to the uh fixtures on the wall as well. So, the next

128steps is complete the kitchen and serving lines. Uh finish the CMU walls in the um I see a little begin the paint area in the uh old auditorium. And I think that painting should start maybe middle to late of next week. They'll be finished all the concrete walls. They come in and start ceilings actually start painting and start finishing that area as well. And then of course continue construction on the cosmetology lab as well. So any questions? A lot of progression. Still got a ways to go. Um we're hoping to be serving, you know, as you know, uh the sandwiches and stuff like that. Cafeteria ster tremendous kudos. You know, since the beginning of school, they have been making part of the staff has been divided up. They've been making sandwiches at Ammeris Elementary and

129Ammeris Middle School and then Inet Central and then, you know, bringing that stuff back to the high school. So, it's a lot of extra work on their part and and they have been exceptionally well uh to handle that stuff. Hopefully, uh when the kids come back from fall break next Wednesday, we'll be doing all the preparation work at the high school itself. So, we're unfortunately still serving sandwiches, but at the same time, we're bringing the staff back in and cutting out that extra work and having in place at the high school if everything goes right over the next few days and stuff. And then um hopefully within the next couple weeks, we'll have the uh the serving line uh he uh hooked up and uh ready to go on that aspect as well. So, any

130questions, >> any questions, Mr. Terry? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. What about the 30 amp heating tables? What's up with those? >> Okay, so the problem that originated was uh as we went to the root cause this thing between 2024 and 2025 when the equipment was ordered and then when it was manufactured and shipped, the federal government changed the refrigerant requirements in those aspects. Unfortunately, the vendor did not pick up on those changes based upon our order. So when they shipped the equipment that we received on site, the um the equipment they with the refrigerant changes, it required a higher amperage motor. So the specs that were um the plan was based off of what the uh electrical contractor here and everything had, they installed all that electrical requirements as it was when it

131was set forth. Since the uh refrigerant requirements changed, the amperage went up, they started unpacking this stuff. not like uhoh the amperage the wire we have is not big enough you know do we have enough capacity in the panel those type of things so that's what we're working on now and that that's where the the hiccup was so a couple alternatives we've looking at is uh we've been trying to figure out how we can start getting warm food served so there right now we have in the existing equipment we have 23 bays well bay serving equipment we have two three five bay bay wells, you know, where the food is placed in the students pick it up. We have three of those, uh, one, two on each side, and then we also have two four

132bays. So, we have a total of 23 serving wells in this serving equipment. So, one of the things we're trying to do is make sure we have enough capacity. We have the electrical engineers review this as well to make sure we have enough capacity in our panel with this, but also to make sure that we're not maxing out the panel. So we don't want to start up this serving area and max out electrical panel in the system right off the bat and not have any room to you know expand down the road if we have some another need come in place. So we're making sure that all this is going to fall into place. So what we're looking at doing is trying to get the uh two four well line serving lines heated up wired

133up and heated up. I think we have enough capacity on that. And then on the five wells do we go back to four wells? We've been talking to Miss Klein who's you in charge of child nutrition, you know, is she okay if we we switch those out with four wells versus the five and those type of things. We're trying to make sure we got all the bases covered and make sure we have the solution that's going to be the best for us long term and not just make a quick term, you know, quick decision uh to that's going to bite us on the long run. And before we do anything, we have electrical engineer coming in to kind of assess and help us do that while clue with Jameson Lewis is kind of working with

134the company to see some other fixes. So, we have a couple different options going on at the same time. And as far as I know, we're talking about power and capacity and what our amp draw is in our power cabinet. You're saying that it's requiring more amperage because of the refrigerant. So, obviously the compressor. So, we're talking cold service, right? >> The these serving wells do cold and hot. They do they they'll dual purpose. >> All right. So, >> so like if like a five well, if you wanted to do cold, you do all cold. If you want the four wheels do hot, you do them all hot. So, they have the capacity to do either one. >> Each one of the piece of equipment can do either. >> And then one thing that wasn't

135in a picture yet, which we're working on, you'll there'll be um five monitors above there so that when the kids come in, the students come in, they'll be able to see on the monitor what is at what station. So they'll be able to go to a different station. So that's why the difference in the cold and the hot, >> right? Okay. >> So we're working on a solution and >> we are it uh you know it involves obviously various different parties and uh you know the main one I think right now it's a left engineer once they found out what the root cause was um based on the vendors and uh we just want to make sure you know is it can we do it? do we add in a sub panel so we do

136have capacity down the road and we just want to make sure we make the right decisions and talking to Miss Klein. We think we have the ability to start serving warm food quicker, you know, hopefully by the end of the month. Uh but of course, a lot of this depends on having all the kitchen kitchen equipment in place, which those two last ovens just came in early this week. they're getting installed tomorrow, having the company come in and hook all that stuff up, verify it is correct, but we also have the help to have the health inspector um inspect everything before we can train our folks. So, all that is into play and uh we're getting those worked out as far as you know over the next week to 10 days. The contractors, uh they

137know what our expectations are. They know our disappointments. Again, it's not a it's not the fault of Jameus Lewis. It's the fault of the vendor itself out in Indiana and the manufacturer of the equipment. All right. And I'm at the point now where we take one of those electric buses and park it over there and plug it in. Uses the power like that. >> Just just saying. >> Yeah. So, it's it's all there ready to go. Um, you know, obviously got to hook up electrical stuff and everything's pulled to the um junction boxes in that area. And, you know, the electricians had not pulled the wire from the junction boxes to the equipment for this particular reason to just make sure everything was right before they went too far. That's just a small task >>

138that that's a it's a good uh >> a good thing that they didn't go all the way. >> Right. And if if we do a bigger wire, >> Right. And if we do, you know, there's a possibility have to pull run more pipe and those type of things. So, it's a >> unfortunate a lot of things here at the last minute that that no one was expecting, but >> it's construction. >> Thank you. >> Yes, sir. >> Board, any other questions? >> Thank you, sir. Next. All right, moving on. Um on here we have uh just wanted to let you know that um back in the late summer right before school started uh we applied for $250,000 with a school security grant. We were awarded about $183,000. So we are working on uh spending that

139uh some of that thing uh will work on um improved um safety and security and you'll be hearing more about that. Just want to let you know that we got that. >> Okay. Thank you, sir. >> Okay. Good. Uh Mr. the chair members of the board. Next, I'm bringing you as a first read policy JHC which is the one with teleaalth. So, what we have done in speaking with members of the board um made it our own and put into things that are related directly to the memo I sent you. We were we discussed last month when you approved the tele health contract. So, we have put those items into the policy. Uh, what I think would be prudent to do would be for us also to have a regulation that goes with the policy

140that goes into more depth as far as specifics to support the policy. But this is again a first read. Um, I ask you to take a look at it over the month, ask reach out if you have any questions and then we can bring it back uh next month for for approval. But again, this is one of the teleaalth services, mental health, and we tried to again take the information I shared with you last month and put that into the policy. So, this is not the VSBA policy. This is what we have done to meet the needs of our of our kids and our our school system as opposed to using the VSBA policy. >> Thank you. Next. >> All right. 8.03. We have uh for you uh the student suspensions for September. Miss Lian

141called me today with several questions and I was able to answer those for her. So, any others? >> All right. 8.04. Uh we have in you have a memo for the best lab data. Uh and um Dr. Smith's unavailable tonight. He had a death in the family. But if you look at that, it's uh fairly, you know, self-explanatory interesting data. Uh Tuesday is the uh most used day and the most used times are 12 pm, 8 am, which lunchtime and first thing in the morning. And then it looks like our middle schools uh 7th grade are the most uh mo using that the most uh the last last little bit here the last six weeks. So if you have any questions on that, I'll do my best to answer that. But again, um that was

142compiled by uh Dr. Smith. Okay, board. Any questions? Okay. Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. That's it for me, sir. >> All right. >> Next nine. >> Next, we go to Mr. Cottage and finance. >> Good evening, Mr. Chair, members of the board. Before you tonight are your September financial reports, so we have completed the first quarter of our fiscal year. Um, it's still early on. I don't really have any concerns to report. Um, I do want to mention two items. Um, one, um, when you look at the child nutrition revenue and expenditure reports, I've told you in the past it's normal, um, to see the expenditures exceed the revenue because it is a reimburseable model. If you looked at the reports this month, um, it was probably a little shocking and that is because

143we have the purchase of the cafeteria equipment that's at the high school. Um, and if you recall back at the March um, board meeting, that was when it was presented to you the child nutrition's excess balance corrective action plan and they had a plan to spend down the amount. Um, they're allowed to have 3 months of operating expenditures. Um, and at the time they were exceeding over 7 months. So they had a plan to spend it down. Um, and that this equipment is part of it. So, this is going to continue to show on the reports. Just know that of the of the expenditures, 832,000 of that is the cafeteria equipment and you will not see the revenue show up on the report because it is using the prior year fund balance. Um, so I

144did want to point that out. Um, the second thing I wanted to point out was just the ADM. Um if you remember during the budget season our ADM was projected to go down um 97.65 students and that's what we built the budget on and um if you look at the current September ADM report it's standing at 2659. So that is 43.75 students more which is a great position to be in considering last year at this time we were looking at a shortfall of like 15 and you know of course that impacts our revenue. Um our business students also um have increased from last year and that provides additional revenue however that is sped revenue that does have restrictions on it. So again, nothing is concrete until that March 8 a.m., but these numbers are promising

145and I just wanted to um note those two items, but I'll take any questions that you have on these reports >> board. Any questions for Mr. Connage? >> Thank you, ma'am. >> Thank you. >> Next, next we'll have Mr. Gallagher of human resources. >> All right, Mr. Chair, Mr. Vice Chair, members of the board. Uh the first item for human resources this evening is this month's iteration of the vacancy memo. So I'll let you review that and I'll take any questions board. Any questions? >> Okay. Thank you, sir. >> All right. And next up, it's that time of year again where we get to start building and preparing our school calendar for the 2627 school year. Uh so in order to do that we have to gather input from all stakeholders to identify priorities and

146in doing that we have established a school calendar committee. Uh that committee that represents stakeholders from across all different positions throughout the division meets on October 20th at 3:15 as a first initial meeting and I would invite anyone interested from the board to join that committee. Um, and so I'll throw that out there along with the previous committee request. Um, that is obviously pretty important committee to make sure that we balance priorities and meet the needs of not only the school system but all stakeholders. >> I will add that to my text. >> Thank you, sir. And that's all I have and I'll shift over Dr. Rose. >> Good evening, Mr. Chair and board members. Uh you have in front of you the recent analysis from our state interviews that were conducted in the spring

147of 2025 earlier this year. Um this was with 20 employees. And this was a voluntary um interview that was conducted by me one-on-one face-toface with individuals in our CTE fine arts program and administrators. Um the breakdown of the data shows a lot of positive things and that um there was a great appreciation for the supportive leadership that was demonstrated and the responsiveness and having collaborative relationships but there also presents opportunities um some of those Mr. neighbors even lend into with his presentation on the instructional component of how they are being responsive to some of the feedback that has been gleaned from the spring to create better collaboration among central office as well as um teachers right there in the classroom and administrative supports and that was one of the things that really keyed out. They

148want to have that type of support working alongside individuals um on a regular basis. Also the visibility being in the building um being present not just for um with a laptop or being um an evaluation and or being in their words uh judgmental but being seen as a colleague valuing their position, valuing their expertise and being supportive in a way that they can receive and really feel like they're making change to improve their practice. Um so if you have any questions about the information, I'll be glad to answer that. >> Okay, >> Mr. chair. Oh, >> yes, ma'am. >> Oh, nothing big. I just I really did just take probably more time than normal just reading over these and and looking into it. And I I still sometimes find it difficult to understand why uh

149people think there's not a collaboration going on between central office and and other people. Every night that we're here, that's pretty much 40% of what we hear. at least what I'm hearing that you're in the buildings, someone is in the buildings, someone is collaborating, someone is helping. And so I don't know how that gets lost. And then I was looking just for myself on board visibility. >> Um I I can't imagine more consistent school board presence in the building. And now we're not to be there walking the halls and judging and and evaluating classroom activity, but I believe that we let me speak for myself. I believe that we are there when we can be uh open houses uh back to school events or surely sporting events uh touring buildings, new buildings, old buildings. Uh,

150I don't know what else a board member is supposed to do. And I mean, I don't want you to ask him that, but uh, it interests me. And it also interests me with how much more you guys can be in the school and still do your job here. >> We we have I mean, I'm on both sides of that. My own job. >> I make rounds to be visible, but my people know that I have a responsibility to take care of business in my own office so I can come out and do what they need to do. So the word collaboration and support um it it seems to me from what we hear on every fir second Thursday of the month there's surely support being given but just in a quick second since we're in

151late hour where do you feel that the lack of support is not the school board would deal with that differently I think it comes with how they perceive support like perception of how we interpret they want support and then their reality of how they want to receive it. And that comes with that communication piece. Um, one person even said, "I rather you just come in the building and say, "What's going on? What do you need help with?" And start the conversation from there instead of me coming in assuming where they think where they need assistance and being more um insightful from their viewpoint of where they would like to have assistance. And I think we're going in the right direction with that because remember these are individuals that are staying with us. So a good

152majority felt that they were being heard, that they were being supported, that they do have the ear of the administration and central office and that they see you in the building. So you know, you give yourself grace and understanding and I appreciate what you said um Miss Ligins about your availability. You're in as much as possible realizing that we can't be in every day. We have jobs that we have to do up here, but to just be intentional about making that time without the caveat of being there in an evaluatory position or judgmental position. Just being intentional about that. >> No, I appreciate the comments. >> I'm not uh by no means upset. I was just questioning. It's perception probably, you know, different people think differently when you arrive of what your intention is, you

153know, but from what I hear here and what I've observed through the years. Ammeris counties probably goes overboard. I'm tell you cuz I've been around, they go overboard and trying to help. I don't think that we've ever said we are not going to help you unless I miss something from the central office. But um we want everybody to be happy. I'll end on that. We want people to be happy, but we also um well evaluations are like whatever you want to say, but from my standpoint, I believe, speaking for me, we try the board tries to do as best we can to be as as as involved in a school system that we can be without going over the top. Uh I I said this one time before and I know it's a new day

154and a new board, but at one period in time, they didn't want us in there. while the board members nosing around. I didn't pay attention to her. I kept going. But I'm just saying that can't have this thing both ways. And so we kind of go at the recommendation of the superintendent. >> When there's a need for us to go visit, we're surely there. But as far as just going by every day, I don't think that I'm going to start to do that. That that's all I had to say about that. >> Miss Lean, I will add add to that, you know, and we kind of hit on it with uh Mr. neighbors earlier. You know, I I don't want it to ever be seen that, you know, oh, Mr. Terry's here. There must be

155a problem that I I want, you know, we're here to help. We're here to if there's a problem, I don't mind being there, but I want to be there for the good stuff, too. So, u and to Mrs. Lincoln's point, we we everybody can't be everywhere at one at the same time. So we're we're spread as thin as we can be, but um when you go in, when I go in, when others go in, it's not just when there's problems. So all working together. Thank you. >> Okay. Thanks. >> Okay. Next, I just wanted to give you an update. The Amherst Leadership Academy cohort 3 is underway. We've had our one kickoff session last month, and we will have another full day with these individuals tomorrow. They are a group of I won't say aspiring

156leaders because they're already leaders in their own right um taking on leadership positions in the building as well as sometimes on division level committees. They are a truly engaging group. They are showing a lot of honesty and vulnerability. We make it a safe space so that they can really grapple with some scenarios and some situational pieces that many may not have ever been involved in. Most of them are I think all of them are still practicing in the classroom. We have three counselors and no three specialists and two counselors. So, we're really challenging them in new ways to kind of stretch their leadership abilities so they can really see the scope of where they want to take their journey with leadership. And Mr. Neighbors, if you want to add anything to that? >> No, we

157try not to play favorites with our cohort, but this has been a great great group so far. I'm just excited to be working with them. And this is the first group we've had entirely made up of individuals that are still in that teaching role in the classroom. So that's brought another unique layer to it and they have been highly engaged literally every moment of our time with them. So very excited about the group >> and again next month we are going to be presenting the Amoris Leadership Academy at the Virginia School Board Association talking about its inception, lessons learned along the way and the future outcomes that we've been g gaining from it so far and also trajectory of where we want to see it to go. >> Okay, >> questions. >> Thank you ma'am.

158Any questions board? All right, I'm going to roll along. My next we have our next sharing our strengths uh day of peer learning. This was initiated in February earlier this year. U the request last year is that we do this earlier in the school year so that they have more time to really use the new strategies and skills that they're gaining during this time of learning with their peers. So that is why we're doing it on November 4th. We again offered the opportunity for our CTE, fine arts, school psychologists, um, library specialists, ITRTs to do shadowing experiences out in the community. And we actually have about 25 individuals that are going out to local museums. Some are going to Liberty, um, some, um, businesses to actually learn more about their content, you know, content expertise

159in order to bring back and create really unique and diverse learning experiences for our students. Um we have 20 no 33 sessions going on on November 4th being led by um all our administrators are leading a session as well as Dr. Wells and um teachers from across the division at various levels will be leading sessions. We added more into for K2 as well as for our school counselors and we even have a session on aspiring administrators. So that will be going on from 8 until 4, excuse me, 8 until 12 noon on November 4th at Ammeris County High School. >> That's so You did it before. It was wonderful, wasn't it? >> I did. >> Didn't you have >> We did this in February. Yeah. Yes. We're just doing a little earlier this year. >>

160And any questions about that? >> Questions board? No ma'am. >> And lastly, we're going to showcase our wonderful medals. We've been doing some wonderful initiatives with wellness and guess what we came home with? We brought home not the gold but the purple and white. We had a wonderful time at the Virginia 4 and 10 mileer over at EC Glass in Lynchburg. We had about 33 participants. It was a rainy nasty day, but you could not tell from the energy of everybody trekking. I got made it up the second hill. Didn't know if I was going to, but my partner kept pushing me. Um, but we got a lot of feedback. I sent out a follow-up email afterwards and the staff was really appreciative of offering that opportunity and gave some suggestions of what we can

161do in the spring and we do plan on doing something in the spring and we're just going to plan for better weather. Um we also got great feedback on the pop-up wellness event that was held at Ammeris um middle school. We gave out free BB cups, blood pressure cups to everyone that attended. They got healthy snacks and they also got a little personalized wellness tip sent to them in in our office mail. So, we're trying to make this a routine to really be um understanding, responsive, and thinking about the well-being of our staff so that they know we know they can't give their best unless they feel their best. So, all ideas if you have any ideas for wellness initiatives, we're always taking new ones, but we really think we have some good things going

162on for the remainder of the school year. >> Board, anything? Dr. Dr. Rose, I was out there at the 10 mileer. I did not run. I was there supporting and you are right. The weather was absolutely nasty. It got bad there for a while. So, more power to the ones who d who ran and walked that. >> And at your place, you should have a shirt, the school uh the division shirt that everybody wore. So, you should have it at your place as well. And so, you want to pass that along. >> Gotcha. >> Thank you so much. >> Okay. All right. Moving on. >> All right. Uh, Mr. Chair, members of the board, along the shirt line, uh, you should have got your Virginia 10 mileer, four mileer shirt, um, but you also should

163have a polo up there that, um, has Ammeris County School Board on it. So, I want y'all to have a little schoolboard bling. Um, if you want next month, you can wear that shirt and I'll wear my polo shirt. We can call it even and and go from there. We'll talk about it. Um, but you have those. I thought it would be good just to give you a polo when you go to meetings and stuff like that that you could wear that way you could represent use that to represent the school board when you're in those uh types of positions. Uh one thing you're going to get we've been looking at our class sizes as um Mr. London has stated we we do have increase in enrollment which is good but that also leads to

164some uh class size. So, at Madison Heights is the only school right now. We talked about this last month. This is still sitting there. We're going to advertise um for a position for the for a teacher for class size reduction. But we're also um hoping we'll get somebody. But in the short term that we in term we don't or in the short term. I also um I'm going to get an a memo to you next week regarding adding instructional assistant at Mass and Heights Elementary. This is for class size reduction. So, you'll be getting that memo from me next week. Um, and I can talk to you'all during the month, but I would like to go ahead and advertise for that position and get that in because it is a a need at that school.

165But, you know, it does add an FTE, but we feel with the enrollment numbers, we're okay budgetwise. Um, you're also going to get a a memo from us regarding AEC. um they have requested at another instructional assistant there to help with some of the behaviors and things that AEC and so um this will be a general ed IIA um they're requesting so I'll get that to you as well and again I would ask that we move on that too but if we need if you want to wait until you know the end of the end of the month into November board meeting or October 23rd when we do our budget conversation maybe we can discuss it there and see where we are but um you'll get those two requests for positions moving forward here in

166the next week or questions there. >> Board, any questions for Dr. Wells? >> Okay. Um, the tailgate is coming up October 17th. Staff tailgate. We had to cancel it. We canceled the one last time because the forecast was calling for rain. That was the prettiest day we had all week. Um, but the next day it rained. Um, so, but we have a tailgate coming up the 17th, which is next Friday. We'll start at 5:00 p.m. at the uh in front of the high school. you're welcome to become there and we hope to see you there. Um we'll do the hot dogs burgers again. It's a typical thing. Uh show up day uh events were held at all schools the end at the end of September to get students in involved and attend and be attendance

167at school. Uh schools did some great events. Um but that was a good good couple days there. Um November is bring your legislature to school month and we are looking at November 17th as the date. Um, they'll be at Ammeris County High School. The time is to be determined. We're looking around 9:00, but I have to see when our legislators what their schedule looks like, too. If they're saying 9:30 or 10 will be better for them, then we'll make those adjustments. But right now, we're looking at November 17th at the high school. We're going to shoot for 9:00, but I I haven't we haven't locked that in yet. When we find out, we will get that to you. Um, and we'll have our legislators there and discuss what issues we're seeing and what we think

168we need assistance with, but also show off some of the new facility there at the high school. The VSBA annual convention is coming up and we hit this earlier, but um if you could the next tonight or tomorrow, if you know you're not going, could you let us know so we can go and cancel the rooms cuz I don't because we're getting to that point where we need to start making those arrangements and decisions on that. So, if you think you might be going, we'll keep your room. If you know you're not, if you could just let Miss Mcer or myself know so we can just change those room room arrangements around so we're not >> holding those rooms. Do you want to poll us now to see >> if y'all feel that way out

169fine? Yes. >> Yeah. I'm I've got to check with work, so I'm I'm going >> Okay, Miss Ligan, I'm not >> Okay, Mr. Rosa. Okay, >> I'll let you know. >> Okay. No, and we'll reach out um to Miss Thompson and to Miss Saunders just to get their input, but thank you. >> That's why we can go ahead and make those that would help. >> Yeah. Thank you. Um October 23rd we have the budget priorities work session. I'll be here from 10 to 1. Again that is to get your feedback and input as to what you want us to focus on into the budget season as we start preparing the budget. Um we'll be working with the county on that. We we have not I have seen nothing from the state. This is the new

170bianual budget coming up this year. I've heard nothing in my conversations with other superintendents or again the state regarding what they're anticipating coming out for pay increases. I think if they do raise this or what the budget's going to look like from the state, I think that will depend on November 4th as to what direction those things go. Um but we'll at least get your priorities in so we'll know where we need to be. I would and I told Mr. Connage, well, you know, we'll kind of think about looking at it from a 3% pay increase up middle of the road of what the state's been doing the past few years and kind of get that number. So, you wouldn't know what that number will look like, but then we'll go from there. But again,

171just get your priorities. We'll meet with the county in November to talk about them with their priorities and uh we'll go from there with that. Okay. Questions there. Any questions? >> Okay. >> Yes, Mr. Terry. Um with that budget priority session coming up, how can we make opportunity for the stakeholders other stakeholders to um have input or >> so typically what this is the first year we've done the meeting for y'all. just to get your priorities. And then typically in no December, we have the open session or the the public hearing. Excuse me. Thank you. My brain's not working. It's getting late. The public hearing for members of the community to give their input before we get too deep into the budget process. That'll be December when we'll have a public hearing here at the

172school board meeting >> after >> and then March as well. two public hearings. If if citizens want to give their input, they can send it to me and Miss Laconic and we'll be glad to put that into consideration. >> Great. Thank you, sir. >> Board, anything else? >> Okay. >> VSBA. So, we had some members receive some recognitions from the VSBA and it should be at your place. So, Miss Lian is distinction certificate. She got the starfish pin this year. Um, let make sure I don't miss anybody. Miss Justice received a a certificate but no pen. Mr. Childer certificate but no pin. And then I got something. So, all right. So, it should be at your place. >> And then I believe that is it for my information and I can turn back over to

173Mr. Chair. >> Okay. So, now we're at uh committee reports and individual schoolboard members. So, um we'll lump those together. Um our our two phone members have had to drop off the call, so they will not be participating in this, but Mr. Rossi, if you would kick it off for us, please. >> Yeah, it's getting late, so I want to keep mine short and sweet. I do appreciate our student reps for coming out and uh for our students that uh were recognized and faculty that were recognized. It's it's important and based on other conversations that have happened here tonight with changes that are happening this showing up matters. You know, I I know it's been Dr. Wells's push to get people to show up because it it makes a difference. And now it matters even

174more because being there is part of what's going to keep the education system moving forward. They're going to raise the bar and you don't have to jump over the goalpost. You just have to prove that you're going toward it. You're moving in that direction and that counts. Before that, that didn't count as much. Now it matters even more to show up and to move forward. The goal's out there. They've raised the bar, which I think it needed to happen. You're not going to get better unless you try to go a little bit further, a little bit harder. Push it a little bit more. We don't know what our limits are unless we push it. The When was the last time it was changed? The bar, when was it when was it changed? >> It was

175instituted in 1998 and had the 400 number has not changed. 400 400 has not changed. So yeah, I think it's about time for a change. I think it's time to raise the bar and move us forward. And I know it's not going to be easy. It's going to be painful. And we've been warned about that for 10, 12 months now. So, so we know it's happening. We know it's going to happen. So I think it's going to be good struggle for everybody, but I think it's going to move everybody in a positive direction. And I'm looking forward to the struggle and the challenges and overcoming those challenges, but most importantly, people show up. Students show up and I think that's where we need to head. And that's all I have. Mr. >> Thank you, sir.

176Miss Justice. >> Thank you, sir. Well, I appreciate the opportunity, Mr. Neighbors, to participate in the 2 by two yesterday. Um, it was not quick. It was a deep dive and I appreciate it. Um, I appreciate all the work that y'all are doing. So, um, as we all know, Central Virginia Gov School is in the process of hiring a new, well, searching for a new director. Um, the CVGS hiring committee met last Wednesday and reviewed application P candidates. I am one of the two CVGS um board members who's on the committee. There were three superintendents present for the presentation by the Lynchberg human resource department of the packets. three qualified candidates were put forward and in um the next step is teaching demonstrations likely at the end of the month and in November interviews will

177be held and if all goes according to plan in December we will have a highly qualified director at CBGS. Um I am willing to be in the dunk tank so you can contact me. Um, I'm sure you'll get plenty of throwers. So, um, I, um, I just wanted to bring up to the board, just a reminder, we've got, um, BSBA legislative positions. Last year we talked about we had a pretty vigorous discussion about um legislative positions that may not represent Ammerst and and we just re reviewed that if there are legislative positions that BSBA is lobbying for that Ammeris doesn't feel represents them that the board has to draft a letter. So perhaps we can put on the agenda for November a discussion of some sort because Miss Lian's going to be going there pretty

178soon and um if the board wants to do something, she needs to have time. So um you know, I think of rigorous standards. I think of cut scores. And one of the things I've heard from parents steady for the last four years has been our kids need to have a higher standard and it needs to have been yesterday. So I can see how this um more rigorous change can be meeting that demand. Yet at the same time, if I want to go from running a sprint, triathlon or Spartan to a trifecta, I've got to change what I'm doing or I'm just going to die. And I'm going to die in the beginning anyways. Um, but if I can keep my eye on the prize of where I'm going, I can frame the deficits that show

179up in the beginning as yes, this is where I need to put in more effort. Yes, this is what I need to do to get there. And so I I hope that um as parents, as students, as teachers, we can see this as the challenge, it is as the goalpost and even if our score is, you know, we achieved and proficient and we answer the same questions in the same um number and it's below that we can just keep making it better and saying, "Okay, this is what I did last year. I got we'll say 10 out of 20, no, 10 out of 15 questions, right?" Okay. And it had a had a specific um rating, but this year I got 11 out of 15 questions. You know, the bar might have been changed, but

180I still moved forward. and just to frame it that way. Um, one of the things I appreciated when I looked at how the committee um, came to a decision on this was the number of teachers. There was like 273 teachers and content experts, teachers who were content experts that were part of this process. and I really appreciate that priority on the classroom instruction. So, thank you very much. >> Okay. Thank you, Miss Lian. >> Okay. Yeah, not too much going on, but uh it is a a task ahead for the um video for what the Virginia Department of Education is requiring. So, kudos and happy happy camping on that uh adventure, Mr. Neighbors. I know you can do it and it's I I agree setting the bar high is good. We all want to do

181better all times and not but and some work is going to be required here because the metrics are changing just a little bit. So for those who are dealing with this on a day-to-day basis, we're here to help if we can. So thank you for all the great information. So everything else is quiet. I did go to back to school night at at Amalon. We had a good time down there and um some other community things have been going on. So everything I think is very positive. I'm excited for the Apple Festival next week. I I go there anyway, but having the children involved more I think is a great thing for the county. So all is well and um you all can read the um BSBA suggestions for legislative positions and talk about it

182in November. >> Okay. >> And Laurel has not met since we saw last time. Okay. Mr. Childress. >> All right. Well, I will keep my remarks short and sweet. Um I agree. Um with the Apple Harvest Festival, it's great to get the kids involved in that and so I'm I'm excited about that. I will be going, but I will not volunteer to be dunked. You probably have a lot of people lined up to do that. Um but uh no, uh I did want to make a comment about the um the recognizing staff members and how appreciative I am of that. And then just thinking about the the words that you use to describe them uh you know about making connections and kindness and a heart for students. Those are all key and that's why we

183hope people get into education because they want to make those connections. I have a personal story I've shared with many about a connection a teacher made with me when I was a kid and how it it changed um my my pathway and uh so it's extremely important uh for our staff members to do that. Um so and that's all. Thank you. >> Okay. So, um I I don't have a committee uh so I don't I don't have a committee report. I I want to start off by thanking uh Mr. Childress for carrying on last month when I was not able to hear be here. Um sounds like you finished a lot quicker. So, did a better job than I did tonight. So, uh um I have been able to attend a few things uh like

184the e Eagle Een Bash. I love that event for uh anybody who's ever been. And they had Fields of Faith at the high school last night. absolutely wonderful event. Um, so ever get a chance to participate in those, please do. Um, I I I hate to to say this, but I I get some of philosophy from a car commercial. Saw this the other night and it said, um, whether you say you can or you can't, you're right. >> And I thought that that really hit home, especially when you hear stuff about, hey, they've moved the goalpost on us. If we go, we can't do it, that's we're right. we can't do it, but I think we can. So, that's a it's a great thing. So, philosophy by car commercial. Um, and thanks for all the

185information you guys. Um, love hearing what the students have to bring to us. Um, good luck, you know, good work with all the the the health initiatives and that kind of stuff. It's it's great to see the school year kicking off with a bang. So, and with that, um, >> I have to read something. >> You have to read. >> We have public comment first. That's right. Public comments first. So, is there anyone from the audience who would like to approach the board? Okay. And if you do and you spoke already, please have a different topic in mind. Okay. Hey y'all. Good evening. Sam, District 2 Dad. A few comments were made about it getting late and maybe I'll have a closed session, but it's not that late. This is one of the quickest school

186board meetings I've been to in years. Right. Um that's a great quote, chair. Um that's a Henry Ford quote, right? Believe in yourself. Well, I want to uh say on behalf of the town uh of Ammerst, they had their meeting last night. Uh to remind you, they would like me to remind you all October 24th, 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. is the town of Ammeris Halloween event where all community members are invited out, churches, businesses, um to set up a table. I'm going to bring healthy snacks is my plan. You know what I mean? like um candy, but maybe like a fruit juice sweetened, you know what I mean? Or like a like beets or carrots and the coloring or something like that. You know what I mean? Still sugary, but um but that's a really

187fun event. So, I encourage you all to get out um to that event if you can. And if I have a couple minutes or one more minute, I would just like to say get out and vote. Election day is coming up. There's school board elections folks and uh board of supervisors elections and we there's a lot of stuff up and down the ballot and y'all I'd love to put myself out there to y'all again. I'm on the ballot to represent Ammerst Bedford and Nelson House District 53. And if I were to go to Richmond, y'all, I want to represent all of your voices in Richmond really honestly. And I think being honest and losing is better than winning with deceit. That's something that I that I uh have been thinking about a lot recently. And

188you know what? The the students talked about the ninth grade play. That's really cool. I wish I would like to have been at that ninth grade play. But as I look at the audience, I realize that once again, like it's been pretty solid for four years uh that I've come to these meetings. I was working at Bonfire for a minute also like um managing the uh second stage farm market and sometimes I couldn't get to all of these meetings. Um but I but I follow them pretty faithfully and it's like Mr. Porter's here but there's no one else in the audience y'all for the viewers at home you know um and I think it's important for a parent uh or you know Mr. Porter's kids are grown, you know what I mean? But I'm a

189parent of the school system and I'm not even the best at taking notes, y'all. You know, so I encourage other people to come in and and I I don't come here for my own kid, you know what I mean? Well, I already take him to the library. I feel good about his education, you know, but I think that what it is is his classmates. He may have classmates that don't have that, but um may I just say one thing? Vote for me, don't vote for me. But just remember that each one of you has the spark of the divine inside of you. And please just let that light shine through you. Remember that at all times cuz shining your light helps everyone else around you to shine their light. Peace and love. >> Thank you,

190sir. Anyone else from the audience? Okay, seeing none, Dr. Wells. >> Now, pursuant to section 2.2-3711 2-3711A2 of the code of Virginia. It is recommended the board convene a closed meeting for the following A2 student matters. >> Have a motion session. Second. All in favor? I

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