001Yep. All right. Welcome to the board of education uh regular meeting of the buildings and grounds committee. It is what is today's day of Wednesday March 19th and it is 5:26. Can I get a roll call please? Jason Navs here. Anthony Smearino here. Jim Fian is absent. Also in attendance Dr. Ken Sarinich, Amy Romano, John Calhoun, Lorraine Rosner, James Orizetti, and Kate Kash. We stand for the pledge of allegiance, please. To the real flag and not the to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, justice, for all. Oh, yes. That's right. Can I get a motion? Can I have a motion to approve the agenda, please? Anthony, it's all a motion to approve the agenda. And I will second it. Uh,
002and then number three here, review and appro review approval of the following reports to the committee. You want? Yeah. Motion. Yep. I make a motion to approve and I'll second that. and public comment. I see none. So, we can move that we can move on. Uh agenda items, the facilities of report. Mr. Ken, thank you very much. Um so, for the facilities report, I'm going to I'm going to turn it over to the superintendent because got the most up to date um on the status of the project. So turn it on the whole report or just the Moheagen roof? Just the just the Moheag. I was going to say now it's really seriously if you want to do the rest. I'm okay. Uh so and I think the board is aware of this that the
003alderman appropriated the money um for the roof project last Thursday. I believe it was um $1.4 million. Uh that is the total minus the three uh 38.5% reimbursement that we'll get. Um I obtained copies of the minutes this week. So we have everything that we need to do to submit for a building project um when the window opens up on April 1st. So shortly after April 1st, as soon as the window opens, we'll submit all the paperwork, get a project number for the assignment, and then that will go off to the architect and he can proceed with all the plans to give it back to the city to open up the bid process. Ken, I I I thought I thought we had to uh retain all of the money for the project, which would be
004more than 1.4, wouldn't it? So, um the mayor had a meeting with Paul Hillard and um Dean Petraelis to determine how much funding they were going to allocate for the um alderatic meeting. I wasn't a part of that meeting, but as a result of the meeting between the three of them, that was the money that was set aside. Okay. And that was between the mayor and the mayor, Paul Hillard, the finance director, and Dean. Okay. Yep. Okay. Very good. Thank you. Right. So, so after after April April 1st, we're we're we can go ahead and key all the information. So, after April 1, I'll submit everything into the to the Connecticut core system. It'll then produce a project number. I give that project number to Dean Petraelli. He can then complete all the paperwork to
005give it to the city so then they can go on to the bid process. Right. You think it can be done? Uh Dean feels confident that there's enough contractors out there that'll take the work this summer. That's the plan. That's the plan, Kate. Yeah. I didn't know how fast it would move. Yeah. No, he he he said he has a He said there's contractors. Yeah. Big group waiting That's right. to pick up jobs? Yep. Yep. Has Dean been out for a site visit yet? Yes, he was. He spent about two hours on the roof a couple weeks back measuring, making getting all his calculations, everything. So, you spent quite a bit of time out there. Okay, good. Okay. Um, next two items on the list, I'm going to I'm I'm going to uh put them
006together, is Longill Elementary's window project and Moan's window project. So, there's nothing new on that at this point. Um, so I'm I'm assuming that once we get the roof project underway that that hopefully that'll be that'll be next on our list of priorities. Um, next project is um, Son High School multi-purpose turf field. And I'm going to ask if our facility, our building and ground chair could uh, report on that. And I kind of like passing off these uh, yeah, you know, John, I wish I had more to report on, but you know, it's uh, been kind of the same the same scenario. Um obviously uh money is being allocated for the roof first. Again, we had that meeting on the Feb on February 13th and he told the uh the consulting company or the
007the tariff company that that that was going to be uh pushed pushed behind until the roof um until the roof project was underway or uh alloc money was allocated for that first. So again, I have no uh information on that besides what I've already said last meeting. Unfortunately, uh, next is current issue, current issues and accomplishments. Um, one of the things we're dealing with right now is the, um, we had talked about this a couple of seasons ago during our, um, during our budget process was the Connecticut bill HB5272 free menstrual products. Well, we have submitted a reimbursement to the bald board of aldermen um to pay for the roughly $14,000 in supplies. Um we're and it it and it failed the last the last alderman meeting. We're hoping with some new information brought forward
008by us to kind of um clarify a couple of issues that we can get that money passed because that money will come directly back into my custodial budget which desperately needed at this time of year. Um it's important to note that the the law basically says that and of course you know basically says that we have to provide free menstrual products um for ages uh grades 4 through 12. That means so that means all of our elementary schools are included in that. So there's 50 about 54 dispensers that had to be purchased. And it also made a comment, there was also part of the law that there had to be at least one um genderneutral or male ba or male bathroom in each um building. So we have put them we have put the the
009g them in a gender neutral bathroom as well. So, and again that that purchase was 54 dispensers plus all the products to fill uh those dispensers uh two different types of products for were purchased. So, we're just you again we're just looking for a reimbursement on that. We're hoping to get that situation squared squared up. So, maybe go back and try to ask for that money again at the next. Can I just ask a question? When when was it asked, John? When was the first go go around that it was shot down? It was failed last last Thursday. Last Thursday. Last Thursday. Yeah. So, I was reading some things about the new federal by federal effect. So, I'm just wondering why we're going ahead with this. I know the federal law supersedes state law. Know
010that our state laws have some, you know, we're very liberal. So, I'm just wondering I guess we'll need some clarification. Actually, we actually have to do that anymore. This is well this is a reimbursement from LA from these are installed. So the state law took effect September. We have to put them in the bathroom. We've already done it. It was done as of July 1st. We had to do it. So we did it this summer. We just need the city to reimburse us. We well they approved it. Mr. Cton said yeah it approved it. Yeah. They approved it. You going to reimburse us for it? They were supposed to and then there was arguing. Totally. Are we are how are we handling this then? Do you want me to send an email with a breakdown
011or are you gonna send to the alderman? Well, I I spoke to Fran Fra and and John and Glace both on this issue to clarify a lot of the misunderstandings. Um but I didn't put anything in writing. So I don't know. So you called you called John. I I spoke to Fran Fraer and John and Glace about this. There was there was a big misunderstanding with it. Um, one of the issues they thought that these these were all installed in boys bathrooms. There are no boys bathrooms that any of these things were installed in. It was just uh in in each building by compliant with the law. One genderneutral bathroom in every building. And because it's grades 4 through 8 uh 4 through 12, as Mr. Calhoun said, that means every school. We got to
012do every school. So, I mean, our our school system goes in that way. So that that's where the the amount of um but the law went into effect July 1st of this past year. So we have these installed this summer and prior to the budget that was implemented. We had put this in our budget allocation to the board of alderin which they approved in part of the you know when when we look at the budget walk from the previous year. You see the $24,000 was for mandated um requirements and that's what that was for. that was approved. So, we went forward and purchased everything to be in complian with the law. Now, we're just looking for the reimbursement. That's what this is. So, last summer, this this past summer. Yes. Before the start of the
013school year, last year. Okay. So, those are the ones the kids were ripping out. Well, no one's ripped anyone out. I know that was also talked at the aldermatic meeting about vandalism. There hasn't been any vandalism. Who Who was ripping them out, Jim? I don't know. Look, it was all over the news. It was on the news. I don't think we have a problem here in Shelton, right? It was like on the news at No, there was no We haven't had any We haven't had any reports of vandalism of any of any of the dispensers in any of our schools. I think other schools that didn't have a gender neutral bathroom. Just Just for the record, you we we did a pretty thorough search on finding the dispensers for that. We we found the most
014rugged dispenser that we could find for the for the lowest price because we could have easily spent $20,000 just for the dispensers alone, not not re not even the products to fill them. But once we once we found the dispensers and we and we bought the first round of products to fill them, um we reached out to a um it was a nonprofit that does uh that that offers these products for free. So, um, the last couple of times we've got them, we we actually have donations of those products. So, we're not spending any money going further. We have we have plenty of product right now. Um, so we're not spending any money. We're just trying to get reimbursed for for for what we, you know, what we had to do by law. I mean,
015we can't choose to to ignore the law, whether we agree with it or not, but we had to we had to install these products and we had to fill them, you know, and you got 54 dispensers. It takes a lot of product to to fill them all. So, that's that's kind of where we are. We just, you know, like I said, we we had we had a commitment, but, you know, going back and we just, you know, we'd really like to last year, right? But he's but he took it we took it now out of his budget, which he doesn't have. We need to get rid of well, you know, the finance side. I thought that was we'll have to look if we could get it to that. You want to send I thought that
016was Let's compose myself and Jason being ready. I got I got another question for you, John. Our cleaning products. What's that? Our cleaning products. I asked you um once before about our cleaning products. what we use for cleaning products. Yeah. And do we you buy by wholesale like by 55 gallons? No. What we do is it's even more efficient than that. We don't pay for companies water because basically a lot of the cleaning products you're paying for a little bit of chemical filled up in a bottle or a drum or whatever with water. We buy a we we use a dilution system. Yeah. So what we do is we get the the the raw chemical and we have these dilution stations throughout the buildings. What it does is as you fill up your containers or
017your auto scrubbers, whatever, it dilutes it to the proper percentages. So um we're paying literally uh pennies on the gallon for our chemicals as opposed to if we were to purchase spray bottles or even I mean do we have a price list of what we're paying? You're buy So you're buying by the drum then? No, we buy we buy we buy like a a two quart a quart container. It fits into a dispenser, right? And then but they also sell this. They also sell it by like 55 gallon drums. I just looked into all this. So I was just wondering what we're paying for it cuz I'm going to going to want to see that finance going to go over that cleaning. I want to see if we can't reduce that. So you're so Mr.
018Rosetta, you're thinking that buying in in bigger Yeah, we can get more volume will save us money versus the Well, you know, I I shopped around. I got 11.40 a gallon. What are you paying for? I'm paying I'm paying anywhere from 3 to 16 cents a gallon for our chemicals once they're diluted. The actual usable usable. That's that's diluted. This this is non diluted, right? So, you're paying for you're pay that's non-diluted. So you mix that as well. Yeah. Yeah. This gets mixed like five to one. Okay. So So you're paying, you know, the end use different. They only provide five into that. It's probably like two bucks. And is that by the gallon gym? That's by the drum. By the drum. So I'm just wondering if we can do something like that. Yeah, it's
019worth it's worth looking at it. You were saying you were struggling with the price of the cleaning products. That's right. When we were talking Well, cleaning not not the cleaning chemicals. I mean, cleaning chemicals we and we're doing really well on, but we're we're struggling with cost of paper products. Oh, paper products, excuse me, cost of trash liners, that type of stuff. um and every day every day cleaning products. But I've been working with right now I'm working with several several vendors and and using consortium like Omni and everything in the state contract looking and we're trying to again we could certainly buy a lot lower quality than we have but do we really want to do that? No, we're trying to find a mid-grade quality and with a with a lower price. So, um,
020one of the things I'm looking at for next year is I've I've found a, um, a new soap product that we use in all of our bathrooms. All of our classrooms have sinks and everything. Believe it or not, last the year before I took a full year's worth of data, we purchased over a million lers of soap product. So, I've found a contract with um that we could get it for about $10 less a case, which will which will be a substantial savings for us in the district. And the company will put up dispensers for us for free and take the old down. John, will those be automated dispensers? No, they're still a hand pump. So, um, and again, that's that's the most most efficient because, um, and again, we're looking at some paper towel
021dispensers, too, that are more efficient that will be the the paper towels out. But again, I want to find products that the dispensers paid for, cuz if we have to buy dispensers, it beats our, you know, we're we're already in the hole as far as trying to save money. So, we're looking at Can you bring some of that to finance? What's that? Not this. um could bring some of the the pricing that we're getting for cleaning chemicals to finance. I'd like to tonight or next month? Next month. Oh, next next month. So, I can get you a breakdown of all of all what our end what our I appreciate that. Well, I'll give you the I can give you case cost and what our enduser cost is and I'll give you what I have. That's
022worth looking at. Let's see what see what we And remember these products have to be green green seal certified. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask, right? What's the Again, once again, we're talking state law. We have to have a green everything has to be green seal certified. Um, so that means there can be no ammonas, acids, they have to they all have to meet that green seal certification to be able to be used in the school building. We're just trying to keep Yeah. No, I I Any help, believe me, is greatly appreciate. We're gonna need a lot. Yeah. Very good. Always do. Just remember any cost savings doesn't get cut. It just kind of kind of stays there. Yeah. It should go back to you, John. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Don't take it from
023me is what you're saying. Okay. Um I will you after. So, the next product uh next project, the Elizabeth Shelton transformer. Um, at this point right now, we're looking we're going to look to hold off on that and because of the budget freezing, we're looking to hold off on that until the summer and which is fine. We'll be actually better because there's any issues or anything. There won't be anybody in schools. So, that's that's that's on slate for this summer. um the auxiliary gym renovation. Finally, we're going to, you know, because we've been we haven't been doing overtime and we haven't um haven't had any shut down over Christmas break. Um finally going to finish that over April break. My custodial staff is working that during that break period. Um so we're going to we're
024going to we're going to finish that project and that'll that'll be done finally. Take pictures. Can't wait to see it. I will. I might actually just show up and look. That place was You You might, Amy. You will. You will show up. Have you seen what it used to look like? Oh, yeah. I do. Yeah, I do. It looks great. It looks great. You go up there and you're like, "Oh my god, that should have been done years ago." Well, right now, yeah, we we took down to the upstairs. That was an auto auxiliary j what do you call That's a robotics. For whatever reason, whatever reason, they decided to put ceiling tiles in that area, which are a target for the kids, you know, to try to knock them out. So, we took that
025down. We took the grid down. We we re realloc relocated the sprinkler heads, and we put all new LED lighting in there. So, we're going to we're going to finish it up over April break. We're going to put um we're going to paint we're going to put new grates on for the Hback. And um it'll look pretty good. I was just going to ask the same question. Baseball baseball proof. Without a doubt. That was that was definitely a maximum priority. Very good. Thanks, John. Okay, so that's the aux gym. So hopefully after April um April break, I'll share pictures with you and you like I said, feel free to stop up there and take a look too. Um next one, energy efficiency upgrades. We have got um almost all of our buildings are complete now
026with all of our energy upgrades, you know, uh until they first change technologies, but the only one left is the is the high school. And I'm actually going to be starting with that with an audit walk through tomorrow. So, we're going to be looking at that. The reason the high school was the last one to be done, even though it's probably the biggest and the most things that need to be done, the fuel cell actually because it makes electricity and there's savings with that, it actually reduces the um the benefit of um of the energy savings because of the fuel cell running. So, but again, we're, you know, we're still using old technology lighting. Phil could buy in ballast and with the LEDs. Now, we don't have to buy ballast. They'll change the lights for
027years at a time. You know what I mean? So, we're going to start. We've done the we've done the gym, the aux, the aux gym uh stem room. We've done uh maintenance boiler room and all the outside lighting. So now we're going to start we're going to really start working on the main hallways and classrooms. So that should be a really significant savings too as well. Right. And then the time as well that it takes these your maintenance people to go ahead and change light bulbs and you're not going to have to a lot of ballast and light bulbs. Absolutely. Right. Right. So now the what what are the speed drives? Is that in the mechanical room? Um what is that? Is it light LED light fixtures and speed drives? Yeah, that would be like
028that would be like a var they call it a variable speed drive. And what that does is that it actually you put it on motors and it actually will control the speed of the motors. They don't have to run full boore 24/7. So it'll actually control that. So you're actually using less energy by computer telling the drive how much it needs tells telling the motor how much it needs to run in order to do the job. And that's for what? Blowers and furnaces. Anything that would take a mo Yeah. anything would it would be any pumps or anything like that. We have we have them installed in the intermediate school in the boiler room now. And it's it's you know all the uh all the heat pumps and everything and uh any any of the
029pumps or motors that are that are in the building. I would I would imagine it adds longevity to these motors too. There's some Yeah. But we would we would be looking at there's there's plenty more that need to be done in there. Yeah. And and when's and when's this supposed to happen, Jo? Um well what what the process is is we need to do the audit. They need to run all the numbers. And again, because of the size of the high school, we're going to try to do it in one might have to do it in phases depending on how much money there is from UI as far as the rebate money. Um but what that happens then is then it goes the the analysis goes to UI. they they look it over. They they
030you know modify it if they they feel numbers are and what they do is and they um they come back with a proposal um take a look at that and see what how many fixtures they're doing, how many how many kilowatt hours they they will save by and then what they do is they give you a payback period. It's like okay. So, and they finance it on bills so we never have to go to the taxpayers and money. So, it's on bill financing. So, and generally any of the savings greater than what the cost is for the project. So, it's usually the projects are anywhere from 2 and 12 to 3 years total payback. So, you're you're saving money immediately, but after the 2 and 1/2 or 3 years now, you're saving a ton of
031money. So that's why it's such a great program. So it's just a matter of organizing the the auditor and finding the time. Yeah. It's getting the company to come in, do the audit, do you know, again, they have to count every single fixture and they have to it's a pretty extensive process for them. And then like I said, the utilities pay pay them to do to do the work. Put all the fixtures in, whether it's retrofitting to an LED fixture or putting new fixtures in. and then any other any of the other options that we could do. Um and then of course then they come they come back to us with a proposal. Like I said most most times that I have seen the um the proposal is you know the payback is um greater
032than than the cost of the project. Then like I said after after that 2 and 1/2 or three year time period then all the savings there are. So as prices go up in utilities, our kilowatt usage is down. So it kind of it kind of works out to be somewhat level so we don't have huge spikes in electric and some new lighting definitely helps. I mean we all know changing LED from our old hallogen lighting that's definitely an upgrade. Takes an old building and makes it look new again. So yeah. Yeah. This is not the first time that's been been done. They they went from the old T8 light bulbs which are really inefficient to to T um they went I'm sorry from T12s to T8s and now they're getting away from fluorescent all together
033and now we're going now you're going to an LED fixture like I said until the next technology you're saying the speed drive ones that he's talking about the pumps. Okay. Cuz you're paying for you're running all Yeah. Yeah. Power needed. Incredible. Just so you know, the other other things that that they do that are included in this, they're small, but yet what they do is they they they even control the fan fan motors, refrigerators, and freezers, and food service. So, they they're running at maximum efficiency because they don't need to be running 24/7 on full boore. So, again, it it senses temperatures and it cuts things back. So every little every little thing that is running there is running up the meter. So cut back the youth a little bit on it. It really helps
034especially across the district. Appreciate that, John. Let us know how that goes. Hey. Um so I know it's getting close. So I just um goals goals and objectives. And uh we're going to be starting this over April break again because we haven't had time to get people in the building. But we're going to this new statute that state has on the uniform inspection and evaluations we're doing Sunnyside and Moheaggan. And again, that was money that was approved through my my cap my small capital list for the city. That's that's already been approved. Uh purchase orders have been cut. So they're going to start the evaluation of the HVAC system. Um, new things. Um, again, six-year capital plan. We updated that already um for our last board meeting. Um, again, the renovation of the aux gym.
035Um, uh, hot water, you know, going to finally in get the hot water heaters installed that we've been holding off for because offended period of time. And again, I'm working with a lot of new vendors. um come up with ways to save our district money on custodial supplies and ser and also maintenance service. Well, we're looking we're looking everywhere to try to try to save money by doing that. Um, and again, we're uh we're we're evaluating all of our maintenance contracts, all of our supplies, and again, just a just an attempt to see if we're getting the best price cuz a cycle where you use the same person, you know, and then prices creep up and it's time to start, you know, making everybody sharpen their pencils. I was just going to say that's Yeah.
036Yep. You got to shop them out. Yeah. Just a quick question if I may, Jason. Um, I just when they go when you're doing the evaluations of the HVAC systems, when do you think it's going to get us that report back? Um, it should be I would I would think within a few few weeks after they do their like the maze meeting or something. Yeah, I'd like to see that. Yeah, I I definitely think we get by um the results these inspections refresh my memory. What happens if there's something wrong? have to fix it or it's just No, they're just they're an advisory. They're an advisory for us. But again, if they see something that's really a problem, it gives us a heads up that hey, you need to you really need to address this
037in your next budget cycle. Yeah. But again, it also just to look at evaluate basically, right? Test. Yeah. But again, you're we're going to start out with two schools that have really really small um HVAC systems. you know, the Sunnyside is literally uh exhaust fans and you know what I mean? So, it's not a there's not a when we get future down the road when we start talking about the high school and intermediate school, then then there's going to be some ser very extensive work that needs to be done and the cost of these contracts for the vendors higher. What was it for the for the smaller? They were under They were under $7,500. Yeah, I was under something else. Yeah, they were they were seven 7,000 something. Yeah, but again, these are these are
038are smaller buildings. We started out we started we have a it's a 5-year process. So, this is the first year in that 5year process. John, um is there any consideration on solar panels for the roofs? That's something that would be more of a I mean, I'm willing to, but that's that's something to be more of a of a city uh a city mandate. I know the mayor had a company coming around and they they had to ask my guys to let them up on the roofs and show them around, show them the electrical room. So, I know the mayor has looked at all of the schools. I'm not sure where that project has gone at this point, but I know that there is there are people working on on solar uh on on solar proposals
039for the mayor right now. So, there is there is that going on, but that's something that they would they would be the driver on. Are we aware of other schools that have solar panels? Um, I mean, do you see those those those car uh the car ports they've built now all over Fairfield? They're everywhere. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. We have them currently we have we have it fully on Long Hill and partially on Perry Hill. So, and again, a lot of it has to do with the roof structures and stuff. If they don't can't do it on a roof, then you'd have to look at maybe, right? But there's a lot of there's a lot of new there's a lot of options out there. And also they look at the age of the roofs as
040well. So if a roof is, you know, got another 10 years left, they're not going to be as willing to put them on a 10-year roof as they would a brand new roof like Moan when that's that would be candidate for next solar project. And to add to John's know that when you put them on a roof, it's get it John when you put it on the ground you have to get Yeah. So those things that are in Yeah, it gets I read up on the minute it touches the ground. Okay. It's anything over 5 kW cuz then now at that point you're basically having like you know a a big energy on your property versus like it's almost like solar and you do need Elizabeth Shelton a long long hill. Um, yeah, actually, um,
041I've never seen I think the finance department I think they could probably put that together through the bills. Got to be asking. Yeah, I I don't I don't know what it is off the top of my head, but I know it's a pretty significant savings. Um, they do save a lot of kilowatts there because of that that unit. I I know when myself and uh John and Mr. Sariners were were at the initial meeting. I know someone from the building committee. It could have been Bernie said that said it was definitely a positive uh positive move. You know, it's definitely uh saving us money, making us money. I'm not sure what, but it it was a positive. Yeah. I'm not I'm not sure where to get that from. About it before. I remember talking about
042it. Um I think we need I think we need to know that phone. I know Lena has so like I have an app on my phone that tells me how much solar my property and then it's also on your utility bill. Mine comes right I can I can email Bernie and get that answer. So it should be on our utility bill. It is it is we we have we have the we pay and again know Jackie's right over here but we pay utility bill. We have a is panels right. So, um, so you see, you can see a break, you'll see a breakdown of of both of them. Yep. Oh, yeah. Save size. And it'll also show you, you know, the bills will also show you a breakdown of of how many kilowatts it's producing,
043right? Realistically, if you just say, okay, well, this school is tell they're the same size building. It should be pretty relevant, man. I know. I know we started a little late, so we'll keep moving on. Uh, Mr. Sinister, do you have any comments? No, not at this time. Okay. Okay. And I have one last uh question for you, John. Um, the uh I want to clear the air a little bit. M Mr. Rossetti here got his own answer on the third ply of the roof from the last meeting. Um, so is that right, Mr. Rosetti? you got you you got your own information on on the third ply when when when Mr. Ordi asked about the third ply. So what I would like to know with that third ply being put on have how much
044uh how much reinforcement have we gotten? We have any leaks uh with with that third ply is there any leaks on on any of these buildings? Um I mean you know to be honest with you we we have we have leaks in every building. It may not necessarily be the It may not be the membrane that's leaking. It could be a unit that's that's leaking around around the outside of the unit. Um, as far as that that gen generally tends to be what we find is around the air handling unit or something like ventilation unit where uh the seals have, you know, it's kind of deteriorated, the cocket has deteriorated. But as far as the the the the roof itself, we have no have no issues of of anything um of anything ripping or tearing.
045But of course with the and again when these when these when these roofs were put on they were flat roof but now with the state mandate all the roofs have to be pitched. So there's less there'll be less pressure. Got those two roofs that we did are pitched. Well, I I think Mr. Calhoun speaking that any of the leaks are more the you know penetrations through the building. The old the old roofs are not the new roofs that we put on Long Hill are definitely center drain pitch. Okay. Okay. Mhm. Okay. So, well my question we had any problems? I mean I got an answer for the third class. So I'm I'm okay with that. It's it's it's more exorbitant nowadays than what it was back then. I just wanted to know, did we make
046the right choice? So, we don't have any problems with the roof. The warranties are still in effect. Yeah, I think it's a valid question. It's a valid question. Okay. I I just for myself, I want No, no, absolutely. Like I said, most of the times when we have an issue at one of those buildings where those those roofs are on there, um it's generally not a not a a membrane issue. It's it's something else where we have the warranty still should cover that leak. We have a leak on any of those two schools. It should be you know I could listen I could recite that warranty to you almost like the back of my hand and how long is the warranty good for? Those two schools are 30 years. Okay. Right. So now um they
047we should not have any problems with those roofs. If we do I want to call the the installers or whoever is supposed to be come back in and fix those roofs. Mhm. Like you know because you know we put out one fire and we want to go on to the next fire. I don't want to have backfires. So when we have Do you know do you know what the warranty is on this? Do you have a certification of what the warranty is? I I think I think you need to dig that up and it's 30 years we have it. But then if if we if we have a leaky roof besides silicone joints or any uh penetrations going through that's different AC units penetrations that's all different. There's all kinds of specifications. I'm sure John's
048probably everybody probably came on onward afterwards. But any, you know, that's why there's foot paths up there. You can't do any kind of work up there without this. There's no penetrations allowed. Blah blah blah the whole the whole nine yards with those two school roofs. And I just want to know if there is I will. And if you can't find those warranties, I certainly I have the warranties and and Silk Town does a lot of our work. So So So when there's a when there's a warranty issue, Yeah. They will they will go back to the manufacturer. They'll do the repair and go back to the manufacturer for the for the payment. But again, like I said, we have not had any issues with the membranes itself. That's great. And I'll give you and I'll
049give you what I when I did the research and I and I called some people, they told me that the price for the third layer now just slightly under 400,000. Back 15 years ago when we did do those roofs, not anywhere near that. Hence my persistence to try and get a third roof on it for, you know, for an extra 10 years. But another $400,000 per I don't think it's gonna fly. Not these days, but I mean, a lot of schools, like you said, do do the two ply roofs. I'm happy with it as long as they don't leak. Want to make sure that our warranties are in effect. Fully take take advantage. Good. Perfect. I think that sums up our questions. And uh thank you, Mr. Calhoun. You're welcome. Uh, can I get a
050motion to adjurnn, please? I'll make a motion. I'm going to second that.