001And we'll call the Thursday, October 23rd, Wilton Board of Education regular meeting to order. Has everyone had a chance to look at the agenda? >> Yes. Is there a motion to approve the agenda? >> Thank you, Pam. Is there a second? Thank you, Lori. All in favor? >> Carries unanimously. Um, comments from the public. Are there any comments from the public? hearing none. Um, consent agenda. On the consent agenda is minutes from the regular meeting on October 9th and contract approval for the WA 26 through29 um contract. Are there is there a motion for the consent agenda? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Nicola. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Pim. Any discussion? All in favor? >> I I carries unanimously. Um for chair's report, um I don't have anything for this
002evening. Kevin, if you want to move into great >> um your report. >> Yeah, just a quick Lucia. Is the camera on the Zoom camera? There we go. Okay. Thank you. Um so, yeah, just a couple of things. So, first, um thank you very much for your flexibility tonight. Uh we had a stellar, uh fashion show with our >> fun, didn't it was such a treat. high school and community step students was terrific. Um, so another just great example of, you know, organizations in Wilton coming together to support our kids. Um, and so thank you to all those folks in the room who generously donated as well. So I look forward to my hidden hypnosis. [laughter] >> What did you get? >> I don't know. It was >> hypnosis. Something like that. So >> I
003told him he get his kids to clean his rooms or something. >> Yeah. [laughter] So very excited to discover what it is I've been on. Um so just a quick note um I received a note this week from uh Edna um Kobalka from the Wilton Garden Club. She shared um that she had been working with our community steps kids in advance of the flower show and they had put together a submission and the students received an appreciation award as a result of their work. Um she also shared that um she's engaged with um district staff and is going to be working to help launch our um greenhouse over at Middlebrook which has been um just we haven't had anyone to lead and organize that space for a couple years. So um I'll keep you posted
004on on those developments. If it's okay I'm going to roll right into the financial report. Um while away this week so um you saw you know there were some positive news. Um, so just on the whole, you know, we're still very early on um in the budget season and there are no surprises um you know in in the budget um at this point and so we continue to you know watch those areas that we consider to be um most vulnerable but you know at the moment we're given the fine. Um in the memo that Llaya shared, you saw um we had the opportunity to change our um student accident insurance carriers. And so um this was um really good. Uh not only did we expand um coverage um we also lowered the premium cost. I
005think one of the real benefits here um we used to offer um optional insurance for parents and we no longer need to do that because all of the activities um that they would otherwise have insured supplementally are covered under this new policy. >> Oh, that's great. >> Yeah. And the um the coverages are actually better than they were in the old plan. So that's all upside. Um and I'd already um spoke to you previously about the um Title One funds that were restored and so that's that's good news. >> Great. And so happy to take some questions if you have them. Um the only other no I had about the financial report you saw um in the transfers. One of the largest transfers that you've seen now um about this time of year for the
006last couple of years is the um HVAC tech district salary um transferring 85,000 into district building repairs. annually for the last several years since Mar Espazito retired, we have um posted for a new HVAC technician and we just we can't find anyone. Um so we've had a couple of candidates over the years apply and you know they wind up getting an offer from us and then taking it back to their current employer and who you know adds to their you know their current um compensation. And so, um, we have been covering that vacancy through contracted services. And so, that $85,000, you know, we start when we plan a budget, uh, with money on the salary line and then our fall back is contracted services. And so, that's, you know, unfortunately what we're doing again. Um,
007we do have, um, Merilla Franco who works for us. Um, we've been sending him to HVAC school. So, he's in um, I think this has started his second year. So, um, you know, hopefully, you know, we're trying to just grow some internal talent to to cover the need, um, because it is a need. >> No, great to have that back in the staff. >> Any other, um, questions on the financial report for accountable? >> Okay, then rolling right along, um, review and discuss, um, the 2627 budget assumptions and goals. >> Great. So, um, I I apologize. I was working on these all week and you know because of the um and it didn't have all the the information and so um you'll see when you read through it um we have TBD for um our
008um contracts that are under negotiation. So I'll revise this now that we've ratified the teachers contract and we'll plug in those numbers and then the other two contracts that we're negotiating this year will remain TBD for now. Um but just to take you through kind of what's here some of this will look familiar to you. Um we try to lay out goals and assumptions annually just to help guide the development process. Um so that you know budget goals should um not be a surprise to anyone. You know primarily um we want the budget to support the board of ed's primary goals to raise student achievement, narrow the achievement gap and then strengthen community wellness and belonging. Within that there are kind of specific um needs. So maintaining our current level of instructional and support those
009are based on class size and then you know special education intervention needs um what's the budget impact there primarily salary and primarily salary and benefits um you know a sub goal under that broad goal is to continue to support our implementation of the vision of a learner and that's really through continue vision and new course proposals um so budget impact there curriculum development time and professional learning um for this current year. Um, maintain current class sizes. Um, we're in a very good place with our class sizes right now and we want to put a lot of those impact there. Salaries and benefits. Some of our more um strategic instructional improvement work has centered around strengthening our task design practices. And so what does that mean? that's really, you know, checking his team through our instructional
010coaches with some additional outside support really teachers and our um administrative staff to understand task design and then to implement strategies to improve task design. Budget impact there is salaries, benefits, professional learning, contracted services. Um another related goal is just you know maintaining our robust digital infrastructure. Um, [clears throat] and so that really comes through um in primarily with the annual lease with Novvice and then the um updated lease agreements that we use for uh computer hardware and whatnot. Um, we talked about this last year and we've been very successful this year um trying to address in district transportation. And so really what that means is we're looking at purchasing another 10 passenger van um and hiring a driver. That's worked very well so far. this year. Um I think I shared with you already
011um we're in this current budget. I'm looking at savings of around $63,000 or so. And so if we can purchase another van, hire another driver. Um if you factor in the cost of the van, the savings in year one for the second van would be much smaller. You know, maybe on the order of 10 or $20,000, but you know, going forward, you know, the level would be 60 or 70 or plus depending on how many runs we can consolidate. So that's um on the docket. Our facilities improvement plan, we've talked about that a little bit and you know on that but you got a lot of work to do. >> So turning the page to assumptions, you're going to hear um everything you want to know about enrollment um projections. Um so I won't you
012know steal Patrick's thunder there. Um but you know just kind of forecasting where we are. We look at classroom staffing annually um K5 and you can see um you know from the comparative cohort sizes and looking at our average class size range. I'm not anticipating that we're going to need to add classroom staff anywhere. Um looking at other staffing priorities, we've, you know, laid out um a number of priorities over the last couple of years. Um so we've been, you know, chipping away at those slowly. Um, so things we're looking at this year, um, we have our two coordinator positions, um, Karen and Trudy. They've been in the, uh, teachers bargaining unit. And so we're at a point where, um, we'd like to convert them to the administrators, the WASA unit. Um, what that would
013mean is they would, um, become 12-month employees. They would pick up, um, a substantial amount of, um, supervisor responsibilities. There is an additional cost in the change. Um but you know we we can talk about those details as we come into the budget season. Um several years ago we um reduced the humanities coach position at Middlebrook. Um this has been on the priority list but we need to make sure that the conditions are um such in that building where you know the coach is going to be able to work with the staff effectively and so we want to make sure that people are ready for that. Um as we're contemplating an change to our ELA curriculum in that building. This is um I think an essential position to consider as we're thinking about the broader
014[clears throat] curricular change. >> Um for several years, the high school staff uh high school administrators have posed um proposed um creating a dean position and that's something we've deferred in previous budgets. Um looking at the enrollment change and staffing, we think we may have an opportunity this year um to create that position. That's a it's would be a position in the um teachers bargain unit. it would be split between instructional responsibilities and some dean responsibilities and the primary role there would be focused around student support. Um so more to come on that. Um you'll recall over the last couple of years when Andrea Leonardi was here um she had named some um concerns around um increased student dysregulation at Cer Mill and talked conceptually about the need for a more specialized program. um in
015working with Melissa um and some of the current staff through the late summer and in the last month or so um [clears throat] they're developing a proposal that will come to the table. Um but they think in terms of staffing they can um achieve this program staff neutrally and so um you know from budget perspective that's great news and you know we'll look forward to hearing some more of the details. Um Kathy has been um advocating for another uh pair professional for kindergarten. Um and so that's just on the list and you know we'll assess that when we start to finalize numbers and then in the last budget cycle Jose had requested an additional maintenance position and um again too we'll just look at that in terms of you know kind of where our priorities
016all shake out and you know what we're trying to achieve with a you know total overall budget. non-staffing priorities. Um, you know, our furniture um around the district is, you know, we've got some like great current new stuff and we've got some stuff that's been hanging around, you know, for 40 years that we really just need to move on from. So, um I will be looking at possibilities for um enhancing those budgets so we can start to more meaningfully um replace furniture. And then this this um kind of last one here around um you know, thinking about better instructional use of our courtyards. I don't have a budget number tied to that yet, but that was a concept that really emerged in our long-range planning conversation. And so, um, I've been on a tour with
017Jose and the principles over the last several weeks. I'll be doing this with Bob tomorrow, um, in addition to looking at some other, um, spaces. We're looking at the courtyards and our outdoor spaces. And so, um, we're going to engage this year, um, as part of, you know, budget thinking and, you know, kind of future planning, um, some conversations around how we might use these spaces better. You know, we have an outdoor classroom here at the high school. I don't know how well is utilized. We have an outdoor space that was um, put in at, you know, probably 8 years ago off behind where the um, Project Adventure equipment is. I don't know how often that's used. Um but some of the inter interior courtyards particularly at Middlebrook and Sutter Mill present a great opportunity
018you know if we can freshen them up and make them attractive and functional um we might be able to get kids outside in a different way. So anyway so that's on the list >> with respect to assumptions um you know I think it's important to say but hopefully you've seen evidence of this you know we're always looking at our budget and trying to find opportunities um to create more efficiencies. So, you know, the um example with the student accident insurance is, you know, probably the most recent, but we always have an eye in trying to, you know, squeeze dollars where we can and do things better where we can. Um, [clears throat] again, I think important to name, you know, our compliance with federal and state mandates. Um, you know, state mandates only grow. They
019never shrink. And so, sometimes those have real dollar um consequences um such as the new uh reading program. We honor our collective bargaining agreements. Um our administrator um salary um agreement this year is forecasted to increase by three. And as I noted earlier, we'll fill in the other numbers as we finalize other other contracts. Um you'll see kind of on the last page and you know I noted here in the other assumption, but we carry an offset in our budget of $400,000 anticipating staff turnover. And so that's a number um that I'm a little bit concerned about. And just looking at our hiring trends over the last several years, and it was really pronounced this year, the pipeline for new staff isn't as strong as it used to be coming out of, you know, the
020um the best colleges and universities. And so, um, what we have found in the last couple years is we are hiring more veteran staff from other districts and they're coming in. You know, they're the most experienced or they're the most expensive. Um, this year really stood out. We hired um I think nine staff members who were at or above the M's or sixth year max. So, you know, that's when you're thinking about trying to um manage a whole budget and manage the growth of um salaries, you know, that's a pretty substantial change. Um and so, you know, we plan for um younger, less expensive, less experienced staff, um [clears throat] replacing our more senior um you know, veteran staff who, you know, [clears throat] retire. Um but we're going to have to do some analysis
021with Marian and Laya and just ensure that that's still the right number. >> So, I just I and then we have to work on pipeline. That's not, you know, necessarily a budget consideration, but we have to pay attention to that. Um you know, about the title funding that was restored this year. Um, one of the questions we have is how do we treat that in the budget? Um, I'm a little concerned about putting, you know, an offset in the budget of, you know, some amount 4 to6,000 or whatever the number may be. Um, because I still haven't gotten a clear answer about how the title funding is u calculated and determined. I know it's an algorithm. Um, I I don't think know that I I haven't found a person who's behind the algorithm. And so
022I I don't know how we predict, you know, given the last two years when it was, you know, it was always there, then it was zeroed out, now it's back. So it's an uncertainty. >> Um so I offer that to you. Um [clears throat] we think we're in a decent place with our um medical insurance and so, you know, our our forecast is, you know, kind of comparatively low, you know, 6%. Um, [clears throat] I just saw something today about the state partnership plan and while those numbers aren't solid, you know, I think um, that whole program is underwater financially and, you know, they're probably anticipating a double digit increase. So, I feel like, you know, being self-insured here, um, carrying the reserve the way we do, you know, we've been able and we had
023a healthy staff, so um, our premiums haven't skyrocketed in other places. Last couple pieces here for you. Um I I just offer like I did last year so you can see where the revenue streams are in our budget. So you can see those. Um and then the uncertainties, none of these will surprise you. Um you know the risk presented by potential um outplacement of students is always a risk to our budget. I talked to you already about staff replacement and um you can write the script about the risk for um unbudgeted facilities repairs. Um so that's that. Um, I know you just got it. So, I just, you know, ask you to, you know, take it with you tonight and chew on it a little bit and then when we come back together, um, if
024you have, you know, questions or things you want to drill into, we can do that at the next meeting. >> It's interesting that we don't have a bubble in any of the of the group. You know, usually there's a bubble, you know, one class just is just more enormous than the others. >> Yeah. >> And then sort of [clears throat] works its way through the system. And we don't have a bubble at all. I mean we have you know some variation but not for me for for years we used to have a bubble right well kind of >> junior class is the largest in the district they're over you know three they're like 330 326 something like that and then you know and you'll see in in the projections that 250 to you know I
025think we have a class that's 299. >> Yeah. >> So yeah they're consistently at least under 300. I think the um the question of how to kind of organize the budget around the unpredictable grants or unpredictable funding coming in from the states is an interesting um one to try to you know make sure that you know we can plan appropriately the same way we kind of do with our ECS type funding and and other things. So, I think um like that that's on the um you know that's that's been put on the table something to to think about um and I know that we all just kind of um got this tonight. I think also um to really also think about to some extent you know we talk about um you know revenue but we
026also kind of like you know offsets are like cost avoidance. So with like site our mill we were able to make that program costneutral that also should have downstream effects of cost avoidance in terms of outplacements and consulting services and those other um you know attenuated um services that go along um [clears throat] with that. So, um I just also don't want that to get lost in the um in the idea of like where we're trying to um make programs better al make programs better but also and serve kids but also save >> sure >> save money um even like the van you had like a [clears throat] um an actual decrease in year one but then you have class avoidance you know moving forward and so making sure that we're able to capture the
027that understanding is important too I to put together the formal budget presentation. I'll make sure I hold on to that. Um just a couple of pieces. I think we did a little bit of analysis around genesis and community steps and so we'll you know pick a couple of things just to make sure that that >> again just the thinking features prominent good input. >> Yeah. >> And you know this is just the beginning but I think it's the right place to start. So thank you. >> Okay. Are we ready for um Patrick please and the enrollment report? Thank you for joining us tonight. >> Screen and good evening everybody. Pat Gallagher, principal with MP Planning Group. Um we have the full report that was shared in your packet. I'm going to really just touch on
028the highlights. Um spend a couple minutes going over um what we've seen as kind of the key trends this year. I always like to start with a look at um the productions we did last year. Go to the next slide, Lucille, please. Thank you. Um and this is a trend we've seen throughout the um uh you can go one more please. uh throughout the the region actually is that uh enrollment is trending below what we had forecasted in in not just Wilton but many of your DUI a peers. Interestingly enough, kindergarten is is the only uh one of the few grades that actually exceeded what we had projected by seven students, but uh the remainder of the elementary and middle school grades are trending below. We also have a handful of grades at the high
029school level that are really spot-on. Um and this is largely due to the housing market and the lack of housing turnover that we've seen throughout the region. You know, we know Wilton and and all your peer districts, the school district or the school system is what draws new families in. And when there's houses for sale, it's often empty nesters who have sent their kids through the school system selling to the next generation of families who are going to put their kids through the system. And with no inventory, that kind of generational turnover hasn't happened and it's reflected in our enrollment this year. We'll jump ahead to slide eight next. Um, [clears throat] this one I can actually. So, there we go. >> Okay. >> All right. So, births we track every year because it's closely
030corresponded with your kindergarten classes. And as births went down throughout the 2000s, your kindergarten classes got smaller. But what we've seen over the last four years especially is an uptick in births. And over the last few years, that's averaged over 160 annually compared to, you know, 130 or so that you had seen throughout the 2010s. And so this large birth bubble will start entering kindergarten next year. Um, so that'll be something we'll closely track over the coming years. Um, housing turnover again is really, I think, the the most important indicator that we are tracking across the board. Um, you can see here, this chart just shows uh home sales since 1991. And like a lot of communities in the region, we saw a huge spike back in 2020 and 2021. We saw a huge influx
031of new families into town uh and and large growth in enrollment. Uh but over the last four years, that has uh gone down. Interestingly enough, your sales are not down as as uh much as some of your peer communities. Um, but they're still trending well below that peak that we saw back in 2020 and 2021. So, >> is this >> I was is this a kind of are you thinking that this is now kind of where it's going to settle? Is this trend going to continue? Is this the line that you're forecasting based on moving forward? >> So, it's um we've lowered our migration assumptions for the next 2 years knowing that the housing market's not going to turn around instantaneously. Um, we know interest rates got lowered a little bit. Um, so if that
032continues to happen and rates come down, we think that may help the market and help turnover. Um, I know we've heard, you know, that a lot of folks aren't selling just because of the rates. You're locked in and at a 2% rate, you're not going to sell and and get a 7% mortgage. So, um, we're kind of at the the whim of, you know, larger federal policy here. Um, but yes, over the next two years, we're taking that more pessimistic view on the housing market and migration. And prices obviously are also impacting that. So prices have almost doubled over the last six years. Again, something we've seen throughout the region. So that may be pricing out families who traditionally could have afforded to move here. Um the other important factor driving migration is um new
033housing. And we know that you're a community that's seen quite a lot of housing development over the last few years. uh primarily on Danbury Road. We've seen over 200 units built, another 340 under construction, and uh almost 500 additional units beyond that that are [music] approved that have not started construction. Um while it's a large number of units, we do find that smaller one and two-bedroom de uh uh units tend to not produce a lot of students. Um one bedrooms hardly any, two bedrooms we do see some. Um, and so when we're looking at some of these larger apartment developments, um, you know, they're going to produce way fewer students than a single family development. Um, another important consideration is price point. Affordable units. We've seen not just in Wilton, but across the region produce
034more uh, uh, students per unit than our airator or a luxury unit. And so we build in future housing into our model. And so this shows our projects um, in the right hand side that are approved or under construction. um and our student generation estimates uh for those developments. Um and so we are using a estimated estimated student generation of about uh 22 students per 100 units for these um market rate and mixed income projects. Interestingly enough, when we looked at some of your recently built housing, those have averaged collectively 23 students per 100. So it really aligns well with what we've seen um in reality, which is always helpful. Um, we've also not added in all the students to the model because your baseline forecast accounts for some housing growth and we don't want
035to double count. Um, so we've deducted that um to account for just the new students beyond the baseline growth. So migration um I think the chart here really shows how um impact of the housing markets reflected in your students. So this is our net migration analysis. So this compares the total number of students who moved in minus the number of students that have moved out. Um in the upper left you can see our elementary grades. So Miller Driscoll and Cider Mill historically you guys have seen um average in migration of you know greater than 50 students annually with the exception of the pandemic year. We had a little bit of out migration. This year we saw a net in migration of just five students um compared to you know that record of 114 back in
0362021. uh and an average of about 50 over the three years prior. So we're down about 45 students in net inmigration which explains much of that gap in the lower elementary grades from our model last year. Um similarly at the middle school um after a number of years of net in migration we saw net out migration uh this year for the first time since 201617 and the high school um historically you had seen out migration particularly in the 8th to 9th grade transition um that had uh really reversed itself over the last few years. We're back to about neutral there um for this year. So we're definitely uh migration has definitely um changed from that really those peak years that we saw um following the pandemic. >> I don't know if we looked in the
037um middlebrook was it concentrated in like the fifth to sixth grade or was it across the building? Just curious. >> What are you talking about? >> The the student lost the net the net migration >> at seven million. >> No, at >> actually all the grades and actually interest seventh grade was Yeah, >> seventh grade was like it was we were numbers in every grade and they particular pronounce. Yeah, >> it was across. Okay, >> so getting into our historic enrollment here, our our kind of look ahead. Um, this chart here shows our persistency ratios. I know it's a little hard to read, but it compares a a cohort as it moves from one grade to the next. If a number's over one, it grows. If it's under one, it shrinks. Um, you can look
038at the last few years, and you see mostly numbers over one. So, a cohort will grow as it moves from kindergarten to first grade to second grade. This year, we had several um cohorts that shrank that historically grows. So, I've highlighted um third to fourth grade. Historically, that grows. this year that shrank by about 3%. Um the middle school cohorts all um shrank this year uh as that cohort moved up a grade and we also saw um a a lower retention rate for eighth graders as they move to 9th grade. And so collectively um again tied to the housing market and lack of housing turnover um we're seeing net out migration for um the elementary and middle school grades which um for kind of historical comparison we saw only higher net out migration in 2020
039in the pandemic year. We have have had other years um that have had slight out migration um I think three other years that are kind of you know one year they have out migration the next year it rebounds. So certainly something we'll want to look at as we move forward in our projections. Um so we always do three models recognizing that there are conditions that we can't foresee and so the range really helps us with you know providing the different whatifs especially for long-term planning around facility and capital improvements. But we always recommend our medium model as best aligning with the um enrollment trends analysis and the demographic and housing analysis. And the medium model is showing um some modest growth over the next 5 years and then a greater growth over the following uh
040the second five years of the projections. As I noted before, we're assuming more pessimistic in migration over the next 2 years. Um assuming the housing market will gradually recover and then return more to that long-term average that you've seen. Um and then we're also adding in the students from new housing on top of that um throughout the projections as well. Looking at our individual grades, um we're looking at Miller Driscoll, which is always at the leading edge of any trend. It was the school that saw the greatest growth over the last 5 years. And as that growth or as those trends of Miller Driscoll, um as those classes move up, those trends are then fell to our other schools. We're projecting Miller Driscoll to grow by about 11% over the next 5 years, really driven
041by those larger birth cohorts that are going to enter kindergarten starting next year. Um and we're looking at an average of enrollment of about 930 over the decade. We're projecting uh higher growth at um 3rd through fifth grade at Cider Mill. Um and that reflects existing larger classes at Miller Driscoll as well as those birth cohorts moving into um third grade starting around the midpoint of the projections um averaging about 900 students. The middle school is projected to see um really the the greatest growth in the near term. Again, largely due to those larger elementary cohorts as they start moving up into the middle school. The middle school will start to experience growth um reaching about 900 students by 2032 333. And in the high school, we're projecting a decline in the near term, reaching
042the bottom in 2028 29 before starting to rebound as those larger cohorts start moving into 9th grade, settling in at um just under 1,200 students in year 10. And I'll uh conclude there, but happy to answer questions on any of the slides I didn't cover as well. on the future residential development slide 14. There's um some of these are actually they're built now. So 131 Danbury Road is it's it's fully occupied. Um and we have I asked for numbers from Lucille recently. We have I see the 35 or 37. >> You talking about 141? >> Yeah. Oh, >> yeah. That's Riverside. Yeah. Yeah. Where they're projecting was like spot on that they forecasted 37 future developments. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> So, we have it we have it twice. So, this shows the recently built two
043on slide 13 and then 14 is the numbers we're adding is just the future one. >> Mistake. >> Where's 141? >> Yeah. I I mean, if it's >> 141 bell weather, you know, the forecast is pretty solid. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, it's a hot topic in town, too. Everyone wants to make sure that the rest are all saying, "Well, we've lost 100 kids and what are we going to do? Should we have to rethink all these [laughter] and after these projections, you know, we're [clears throat] we're going to have lots of kids, lots and lots of kids." >> Yeah. I you know, you you look at if the projections bear out um and you know, I would expect that you know, the >> how we're going to continue to add housing stock at
044some point. >> Yeah. you know, the conditions will shift for in the single family houses. And so, you look at those out years and they are, you know, more reflective of some of our historic highs. Yeah. Um, and I think that when when I'm thinking about short-term, you know, conditions you saw in the assumptions, you know, there's really not staffing implications for the lower schools at this point, the high school, um, as we've talked about from a staffing perspective is the most sensitive to enrollment because they staff to the section. And that's where we're going to see, you know, we're going to have a smaller high school and a fewer staff. Um, create some opportunities maybe to do some different things. Um, so and you know, they're budget friendly, but you know, they're they're going
045to get quite a bit smaller before they start to grow again. >> And I was interested, you know, they um just the the birth projections are always interesting to me. And that's something too for years we've we've been looking at. And um, you know, there were some old projections. This was way before we used MMP. um a demographer who operates around the state kind of took the the low birth rate um and then you know forecasted out based on that number and you know years ago it just made all of our projections really wonky. So, it's I I like doing this annually cuz we see the sensitivity and um we get the numbers, but you can actually, you know, see with the live birth who who's here and >> you [clears throat] know, with those
046kindergarten classes, it's about, you know, 48 51% [clears throat] local birth in migration. And so, you know, I think we'll be at a point where we're looking at kindergarten classes of 300 again pretty soon. >> Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But it is great to have it done every year also because now we're able to make you know the housing market adjustments and be more um flexible in terms of >> I need a sound >> investment. Yeah. I Yes. Um and it's also um you know interesting about as like the apartments come on if we have you know housing market conditions are different then the the um the space almost stays is mutual. So if is there a difference between when 141 Dami road has generated 35 children in the school but the um
047Godfrey place is a has got 30% affordable housing. Is that likely to generate more students? So, the the number of affordable units, especially if we're looking at affordable twobedroom units or or more, it does have higher student generation. So, um we have the smaller project on Holly Hawk Road that was built that has 10 students and 17 units as of this year. Um that's 100% affordable. Um the 30% affordable if they are affordable two bedrooms and three bedrooms. It's probably going to have higher student generation rate than 141 Danbury Road. Um it's larger, you know, more larger units as well. It's a bit smaller of a um a size development. So I don't think the impact is going to be tremendous, but uh probably a higher student generation rate if I had to estimate. >>
048But the model includes that, correct? >> Yes. Thank you, Patrick. Any other um questions or is very interesting. Thank you so much. >> Thank you very much. Thanks for coming out tonight. >> Appreciate it. Thanks for making the trip. Having nothing under possible action items for this evening, comments from the public. >> Thank you. >> So, um to accommodate fashion show tonight. Typically, this would have been the evening where we ask the high school staff to come over and present their new course for clownies. Um, so with your indulgence, I'd like to keep to the schedule that we typically have. So, I'm asking folks to kind of read through those over the next two weeks. I'll have the staff here when we meet on the 6th. Um, but I'd also, you know, if people are
049ready, I'd like to vote that night. um because that has, you know, real budget implications and planning implications as we're moving through the winter. So, if that's okay, then that's I just wanted to point that out for people. >> So, I um I put in a request to the board that over the next week before the 6th, which is our next meeting, but perhaps by that Tuesday of that week, so that would be the fourth. If there's any questions that you have um for staff relating to um the course proposals, if we could just get them into um them so they have time um to [clears throat] um prepare and answer our questions so we can um move forward with it um at a vote on the six. Um also just for um information purposes
050and um the um 2025 class size report is now um available um along with the um the enrollment report which will be um put online that we just went over today that's up and also be um put on the website. We have a regular meeting again on November 6. And then on Thursday, November 20th, our meeting will start at um 6:30 and we're going to have a two topic meeting of parent engagement and community conversation about um the budget. And then there'll be a regular meeting on Thursday um December 4th. And then on Thursday, December um the 4th will also be our organizational meeting and our regular meeting. And then on the 18th, um we have a regular meeting scheduled for the 7th, which is looking like we'll probably turn that into um a board
051workshop, but more to come on that certain and meeting will turn 8:41. Thank you everyone. Thank you.