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Budget and Finance Committee Meeting - 10/7/2025 - 3:00 PM

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2025-10-08
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001All right, we ready? All right, let's call the budget finance committee meeting to order and next thing would be approved minutes from 8:19. I read through those this morning. I'm good. You good? >> Yeah, good. >> All right. First quarter financial review through that. So, I'm interested in your thoughts on that, >> too. All righty. Um, I think I briefed you all the last one. Uh, enrollment's slightly down. We haven't done our uh official report to the state. So these are based upon the first 10 days. The numbers might change. Um so once that's done, I'll revise it for my second quarter forecast, but based upon our my calculations, uh reduce state funding about $661,000 there. And uh sales tax looks strong in the first quarter. So I programmed another $100,000 projected for the year

002on sales tax to offset a little bit of those losses there. So we'll see if that holds true. So really that's the biggest change um is um the state uh funds mainly due to decreased enrollment. >> Okay. >> I mean it's still not >> you know we're expecting the enrollment to be down about 60 to 70 kids based upon our what we saw in the first 10 days. Hopefully it gets a little bit better when we do our report. So >> yeah. So I'll be interested to know too where did those 60 to 70 what grades were those in? So were those a smaller incoming kindergarten class or was it >> I'll bring some data on that actually. Um, I'm going to be doing projections uh for next year on the enrollment. So, I've got

003all the spreadsheets and stuff. So, I'll be giving more data when I brief the whole board on that as far as what are we projecting next year, but what happened in the fall this year, but I can bring that to uh Thursday night also. >> Okay. And do we still collect exit data on kids that don't come back if they like if they withdraw or so we're not collecting any kind of >> Never. Um, it was a small it >> we've never so >> I thought we used to get like exit information if they were transferring to a different school. >> Oh, we have that. I I don't know if we have it all in one place. We put it in in their folder, their power school. >> Okay. >> How would you pull that?

004>> I don't know. >> Yeah. I I'm just interested to know. I mean, did they go to a private school? Did they go to home school? Did they just move out of territory? >> I think we found some of the projections were off. >> Okay. >> I think is what we found from last year. Mark's projections were a little bit >> I'm looking at the projections especially the kindergarten and I did a a fivey year back well I didn't go back to co but I went like last three or four years >> and what weldon's cooper um at the state level is using based upon birth rates to project for our kindergarten they've been five like five to six% short every year so next year I'm going to factor that in because I think they

005were over overp projecting kindergarten but kindergarten was you know one of our smaller classes ever that makes sense >> definitely this year and and And actually in two of the surprising schools where it was smaller was really, you know, TJ and also Force Elementary, they had some of their smaller kindergarten classes. So I'll bring more data on that, but it was in some other grade levels, too. Um, so overall $342,000 um projected under on revenue. Once again, it's the first quarter. Hard to get gauge, good gauge on everything. The federal money is just money that probably, you know, money that got carried over that did not come in by June 30th of last year. So, I just some things that were delayed. Not a lot there, but uh so $342,000 under budget on revenue at

006this point. Um that is factoring in that if you look at projected supplementals, >> that is the all-in money. I actually put that as a sep It's so big I put that as a separate line this year. This is the last year for that money. >> Um there will be some other supplementals as we go forward. We were awarded some state security money. So, I'll bring that in the second quarter and um uh when I get my supplementals ready for that. >> Out of 125 million budget, that's it's not terrible. >> No. >> Uh $342,000. Even though it's under um I have no heartburn over that. Um when we get closer to the million, I get kind of a little bit more nervous. Yeah. >> Uh but once you look at the expenditure, I think

007there I don't have big concerns with bringing the budget in this year. It's going to be tight. It's going to be close, but uh you know, nothing nothing really popping out that is like, oh my goodness, we we missed something in the budget. Um you can see across the board, pretty tight on all the budget areas there. Um 424,000 under budget on expenditures. Once again, first quarter, there's a long way to go. Get through the winter and electrical. Um projecting in bounce about $81,000. So, it's not something we go yay. Uh, I can breathe easily, but it's uh, at least we're looking at it that we're not in trouble. >> I like it. >> I mean, to me, you've put your budget in place. I mean, it it it's equally out with revenue versus expenses.

008I mean, and it's not like a huge number. I know it makes you nervous, but I would I like this. Yeah. So, >> and once again, sometimes when you get through the year, yeah, there's some unfilled position vacancies right now that might not be built in, but we have people transition out and we have vacancies and coming and going throughout the year that that impacts this. And once again, anything that has to do with staffing has the biggest impact uh on the budget, >> right? >> So, I will be analyzing I usually don't start building the following year budget until I have the second second forecast midyear. Okay? Then I look at is there more participation in health and dental than I'm expecting and I make some adjustments for >> now. Let me make sure

009too on a quarterly that doesn't mean that those dollars are frozen in these categories meaning the department heads >> at at this point we don't have anything frozen right now. The budgets >> I I just want to make sure. So when I look at technology and I see $150,000 less I'm not going to say well why didn't we spend that money? Because they could still spend it. >> They could still spend it. Yes. there's some uncertainty in all these categories especially I I think the biggest one transportation and maintenance usually have the biggest uncertainty >> y >> um because of you know the consumables that they buy >> um things breaking uh unexpectedly that are very expensive items but uh so yeah they still have to manage these budgets but from what I'm seeing on

010the run rates and projections it look pretty good >> okay >> uh the next few pages are more detailed on each of those major categories I usually don't go over that but that's there for you to look at if you want um under and overs on different things, but we do it at a pretty high level. >> Yeah. >> So, the two or three pages in, you've got the other funds, which I can go over if you're good with those. Okay. And I'm assuming Karen that the classroom instruction are like open positions. Is that is that what that is? >> That um >> the seven >> she I haven't gone over that with her. A lot of that in in that detail or open positions or unfilled positions. >> Okay. >> Um the special ed

011is a lot higher because we were >> the 6B funding that we have from the federal level. We had spend been spinning that down over the last few years. they had a lot of carryover. Now we're to we're about a three-month carryover, so we're not spending that down. I had to shift some money out of 6B over to local money on that. And I'll have to adjust for next year's budget on that. So that's why uh special education is a little bit higher than than what we had budgeted. And the classroom, it's just such, you know, it's $54 million. There's so many things going on in there. Uh could be some vacancies, unfilled, you know, paid positions across the board. experience >> experience because you're rotating new people in and old people out >> and

012and you typically do get a savings each year that I cannot anticipate >> because of turnover. I just don't know how much and where. >> Okay. >> And that's going to be the biggest one that's going to realize that. >> Okay. Makes good sense. >> All righty. Still because the total budget for total instruction is I mean it's it is tight.3%. >> Yeah. You're running it. >> Yeah. >> So, um but nothing really big. I mean, the special ed was the one I had to dig in a little bit more. Um, and so if there's any surprises, that was one. Um, but whenever we have, you know, Kelly, uh, Jennings has to respond to the kids that come to us and there's times you got to get an aid or you have to get some

013help in there and stuff. So, >> anyway, >> all right, the other funds. Um, you're going to love the first one. Uh, one more. No, Mr. >> Nutrition. >> I saw that. It's actually made >> first quarter. Uh we have a profit. Uh so I hope that holds through through the year. Now if you look at there, I've got a receivable. So I'm there's some numbers I'm guessing on there because we haven't actually filed with the federal government and delays and you know the county posting some of the reconciliations for sales. But based upon last year and best I can do uh we're at a profit and hopefully that holds. So a lot of the changes that we've done uh we're hopefully seeing fruition. we've stopped the um the dec decline in that balance going

014forward. So very very pleased with that. >> That was a massive massive turnaround in a fairly short period of time. >> So I think thank you to Suzanne Quizberry and all the staff and uh the nutrition staff that have stepped up and even volunteered and said, "Yeah, we can do with we can do with one less person just, >> you know, make sure we have a substitute when we need it." So I think the morale is good right now and so very pleased to report that. textbook fund. Uh we look fine there. Um we look whiffer and I look at that at a five-year basis to make sure we have future adoptions covered and uh we'll go through that in the next budget cycle. But um even after the math adoption 1.5 million sit in

015there for the next adoption. So >> history is next. Is that right? >> Yes. >> And when is that next year? Um, we don't know because they are still talking about standards and no one has actually started publishing a history book to match the standards. So, it could be two more years. >> So, which would give us time to build some stuff up. >> Ton of confusion with all of that and so they can't nail any any timelines down driving superintendent crazy. >> So, that money will sit there until the adoption comes. um um treasur for Bedford County does um is investing that money so we get higher returns and uh so it's just not sitting and getting 01%. So we've seen an increase on interest earnings and so that'll continue to earn until such

016time as >> we continue to put money away each year. >> Uh we we take the state money which is about 900,000 and in our budget was 300,000. So you got about 1.2 million you know going through there each year. And I think the 300,000 will be good for the next five, six, seven years. Um, looking at what what our spend is outside of the adoption with the adoption. So, um, once again, I look at that during the budget cycle with Dr. Woodford to make sure we're properly reserved. >> When there's a when there's a backup like with history, you know, what's after that? Like, does it do they start compounding on each other? Like in two years, could you get history and something else or do they push another thing off? >> It's possible.

017There's usually a seven-year rotation. So, we did um science and English at the same time. So, we got those both in one year. And then we did a lot of our um some of our English kind of >> wrapped over into the year after that. Our math was delayed. So, it actually kind of helps us. It helps us kind of accumulate between. It's hard when you adopt every year because it's got so expensive. So actually we would just hold on to that money and if we had to do a double adoption we would be able to. >> Okay. >> And every year we have to update. Then you have those oddballs like foreign language sometimes you have to run through a rotation or health things like that. So we always need a little bit extra

018for those things. >> Okay. >> Uh maintenance reserve fund. You can see it's going to go down quite a bit. But I'm reserving for basically uh the two big projects next summer. the HVAC uh for Liberty High School and Stan River High School and some roofing. Uh and in addition to those HVAC, those are estimates. Right now, we have an RFP u request for proposal out on the street. We've advertised for that. Uh facility committee will be going over that and probably bringing it I think to the board in I'm not sure if it's going to be November or December meeting for approval to award those contracts so they can start working on those. >> What is the roofing repair? There's it's not the entire roof for all of them, but probably the mass science

019wings at both with the HVAC and you got the you know when you redoing the HVAC, it's the ideal time to do that. >> The metal not the metal roofs or anything like that, probably some of the other um >> okay >> membrane roofs >> um and the controls. So, um we don't know how this is we don't know what this is going to come out. So, that's why we've asked for RFBs for the HVAC companies to design it and bid it. And so, we're looking for it's probably going to take two years to do the project. Those RFPs are still out there. >> Yes, sir. >> We had to put those out there for a little bit longer because they got to do the complete design on those. >> So, so that's why it's,

020you know, we were anticipating you're talking 10 million plus for those two projects, probably closer to 12 million. Um, so that's why you're going to see that bounce go way down, but we've been building it up for that. So, glad we had the money to do those self-insured health fund. Um you can see in the first quarter still went down. Um there were some late bills that did not get into here. So it might be even a little bit worse than that. So um we'll watch it over the year. There might be some stop-loss money coming back to me for large claims. Um but you can still there's still pressure on that. You can hear about it in the news everywhere. Um I I think we'll be going up on our uh premiums again next

021year. Um we are looking at different avenues. We have um Dr. Dr. Calvin and I met with our new consultants. We've asked for them to look at anything and everything. They're doing a deep dive on a lot of what we're doing and hopefully they'll give us some >> some some feedback on some options on there. But I think every company struggle >> I won't be here to drive this. But I do encourage you guys to look at what employees are paying based off their salaries. So I I think that's important. I mean, if you're making more, you should be paying a higher percentage than what someone who's making >> 50. >> We did ask the consultants to give us feedback on that. So, you know, >> we just asked them to look into what's what's

022happening in industry, what are people doing, what's out there. Um, and so we'll get we'll bring that to the committee and um so we asked them to take a look at that. >> Okay. [Applause] >> Um that's the financial review. So, it's uh pretty I'd say across the board looks pretty good. Health insurance probably the one thing that still is um a concern. Um that's just the forecast for this year. Long range for the facil uh finance committee and budget and board. As you know, reversion is still coming and the funding of the maintenance reserve after reversion ends. >> And that's going to be Mr. Daniels, you're going to have to really push on that for that maintenance reserve. 2728 28 29 >> 27 28 will be our last year. 28 29 first year without

023so a long-term plan to continue to fund our maintenance reserve um is probably the most critical thing. Um I know there's other thing in the operating you know we're working on the budget last year where our salaries rate across the board locally is like we're way down there so that takes money and there there's things like that that need to be done that are competing in the budget but you got to maintain your buildings too. So >> some things that just need to be addressed and I know you're aware of that. All right. Uh, nutrition feedback will combine kitchen. >> Yes. Um, >> the idea, right? >> Actually, I talked to um Assistant Quizbury. Um, and it's probably she does like the idea. It's in a little bit for format than you might think. >>

024Okay. >> Um, instead of combining like two elementary schools, it makes more sense to have maybe a middle school supply a um an elementary school. >> We are talking about piloting this next year for one school. So, >> we're we're determining where that's going to be. I won't say that right now. So, but um we could probably go down some staff members. You still need somebody to run the register. You'd have to have the capital u investment in probably a truck and the transportation, >> right? >> Uh but long-term less in in staffing, it might make sense. So, we'd like to pilot it at one school. Um it'll be for the smaller elementary schools and a feeder pattern from the middle schools going there. Um so, you're you know, you know, >> because we have

025we have the capability in the middle schools. >> Yeah. high schools doesn't make as much sense because their meals are different. Uh it too too too different to to kind of supply in that range and stuff. So >> um so yes, there may be opportunity to do that maybe at three different schools, but we'd like to pilot at one first. So we're going to make plans on that for next year. >> Cool. >> And I'll brief the committee on which which school that's going to be at and what we project on the financial savings and how that'll work and then we'll track it to make sure it actually produces. >> Right. >> So okay, >> if you're okay with that. >> Yep. And again, I won't be here, but I'll recommend, you know, let's not

026go sell equipment out of the test kitchen and test area before we prove it in to be, you know, >> you probably leave it there anyway. Um, you never know what's going to happen in the future. I wouldn't clear it for a room. It'd be too hard, expensive to clear a kitchen out, make a room for something. >> Um, but we'll see how that how that produces. >> Yep, that makes sense. Vendor analysis. I'm just any feedback from the two of you. Um the spreadsheet I sent out on that that was with vendors and stuff. We looked at we did we did a line by line and then you asked for the vendors on that. So that's still at your disposal. >> Yeah. I don't have any feedback on it. I need to go back

027and do there was some big ticket items. >> Yep. >> The biggest ticket are going to be nutrition. >> Y >> fuel, electrical, and construction. >> Okay. >> Those are your four biggest. >> Okay. >> Um uh and and when you do it when you do a math adoption, that's going to get up there, too. But, you know, your nutrition is buying food. You're going to be in over a million. Construction's up there. Electrical is up there. >> Fuel. Yeah. >> But, uh, if you have any questions, look at that spreadsheet. Let me know. >> Direct purchase order savings. >> Uh, you requested last time on how much we have saved so far, a lot of the big stuff, um, is still being ordered. So, so far from the PPA, $33,000 saved in, um, sales

028tax. >> Okay. And as for the two projects that the two >> three projects uh, but for primary. >> Okay. It does include primary >> all three. >> Okay. >> And it also included a little bit of savings what we did out at um Stewartsville. >> So I just put all that together cuz we put that in all our FBS. That's at our discretion to order big ticket items and save on the sales tax. >> I was going to ask that when we were talking about the H tracks and stuff. >> Yep. Um Taylor Bell tracks that his spreadsheet. He tracks all the sales tax savings for every purchase that we do. >> I mean 33,000 is 33,000. >> Uh it should >> it's a savings. >> Should get up closer. I'm anticipating $200 to

029$300,000 by the end of the project. >> Okay. Good. So, >> you got a lot of stuff to order here >> for the summer coming up at the two high schools. So, >> okay. >> So, good news on that and we'll continue to update the the committee on that. But we track every purchase and what we're saving um at the committee request. I will say that I'll try to bring Sheldon Cash to the next meeting in November or the December one to talk about you. We looked at outsourcing nutrition. We can see that we postponed doing that. We're doing better there. We were looking at do we do that for custodial services? So, I'll have him bring feedback from him talking to vendors and we'll tell you about the pros and cons. >> Okay. >>

030Before we go anywhere else, just like we did with nutrition. So, we'll schedule that for the next meeting. >> Okay. any other requests that you thank things hopefully I brought everything back that you had requested and >> I mean >> this wasn't a long as long a meeting but uh >> I I really think we've got a a couple more months and we usually just do a November one but and we're we're working through budget for next year but I think we really need to put our heads together and consider we've got all these buckets where we need to put limited funds how do we reduce the number of buckets And you know, we have, you know, the maintenance reserve fund soon is going to be at zero. And how do we start building up

031to that? Well, we have to limit our expenses. And there we have to really go through. We're, you know, we have feedback out there in the community right now cuz we're looking at doing stuff in in the forest zone. Um, we'll hear from people on Thursday. Not easy decisions, tough decisions, but decisions that need to be made. And we got to look at that through the entire division. uh because we're here to represent the whole school system for the whole county and we have to make those decisions because decisions we make or don't make are going to affect the future of this county and and all of the students and all the families that depend on us. So, I really think we got to try to be proactive and say what what do we need

032to do? What other tough decisions do we need to make? And you hate to say sometimes you have to rip the band-aid off, but we got to rip the band-aid off on some of these things to protect the future of what we're trying to do here. And yeah, I I think about it a lot. You can ask my wife. I talk about it at home all the time. Like we've got to we've got to come up with something. >> Yeah. I would also encourage too in the conversation, you know, from you guys, what are the new things that you would really like to introduce, but we don't have the money to do that because we're just trying to fund what we're currently doing. I think that's important to bring to the table to say here

033are the latest and greatest things that we would really like to implement or go do. I don't know if it's a new HR system, whatever that would drive efficiencies to bring to the table to introduce. So the team is then challenged to figure out how to pay for it and identify funds and you know like Chris said ripping that band-aid it it's going to be tough but if we can relay to the community here's what we get by doing that it makes it a lot easier >> easier we've already we've already started engaging on that Dr. Woodford and the principal meeting today. So, um, we're gathering data. So, that'll be coming to the fi to the committee and to the board about new >> things that we think, not that we not that we want,

034but they really need to make us effective. And so, there's some challenges out there in our schools and stuff that they're gathering data on. So, that'll be coming. Um, I'll let them get their documents and everything ready for that. But, there's some concerns out there and it's things that we need. >> These are not wants. >> So, Mr. Perry has been using that terminology and trying to and and he's going to be engaging on um I'll let him speak to that uh the county administrator and also board of supervisors. These these are not needs. I mean these these are not just wants. These are needs. These are critical. Yeah. >> And so there are there are some new initiatives that I think we'll be bringing to the table that require um influx of money. So

035we started over the last week or two he and I talking about lots of needs and because I'm preparing to go back to the board of supervisors spoke to Bob Davis is that his name? >> Yes, I'm sorry. >> Gosh, I always want to call him Bob James for some reason. Bob Davis and to set up a lunch and we can go through and show needs not not once. And um I've had a conversation a couple weeks ago with Tammy Parker. Um Stephen Hill has is trying to do the lunch with Bainley and I'm going to try to piggyback off of that. And so my goal is to get to all of them. Uh we'll update the presentation that I gave to the first ones and just to see that it's still accurate with, you

036know, where teacher pay is, you know, where expenditure is, um all those different things. it kind of was it was kind of the shocker for like Mr. Scott. Um so I just want to carry that conversation on but we started on Monday. I'm going to read the list. Um >> that's all right. >> Um we have to differentiate between needs and wants because that's the way they talk, >> right? >> And and nothing we have is a need. It's always a want. So, um, uh, $400,000 for full cost of SRO's, uh, competitive salaries. Uh, Le will work on that. Long-term funding for maintenance projects. Karen is addressing a new area right now. Um, and it's the behavior issues that we're dealing with. And we started talking about how it's mostly like K5, what would you

037say? K5, first grade, >> preK, kinderg. I mean, you're probably going to hear it on Thursday night and um because there's a lot of kids acting out in that age bracket, but then if you go back five, four or five years from now from before this, you know, where we were, we were co coming out of CO, it was just a different child. So, you know, looking at how can we do some behavior modification, what that would look like, because that would be something that would maybe be central to one zone and we'd send kids in for behavior modification and send them back. Um, and also funding for school consolidation. It's a better word to use, but um so those are the things that we're having discussions with. So, I went to um Robert Hiss's

038presentation to the chamber board this morning, and I'm sitting here looking at our budget. Originally projected 123, now 125. But yet, this is what they're advertising to the public that they assist with. So, 5 million off. >> That's debt service. >> I know. I know. But but he's projecting that they're paying. I'm gonna have conversations with him about what are you actually paying and and when you put that into to the mix of what we need over the next 5 years and where you need to come through. So those are conversations that need to be had, but I'm also just going to start with having those with individual members uh probably in the next couple weeks. Um, so th this kind of conversation will continue to go because I'm sure there's more needs that are

039going to come back every time we every time we meet. So it's along the same line you just asked. >> Okay. >> And along those lines, I mean, just talking on that where I separated that all that all-in money, that money goes away next year. So we've been using money from that all-in money for the last three years for where the governor and general assembly said we need to catch up on learning loss. So that was an influx of a lot of money >> and then it disappears. So >> is that used >> to fund the to keep from the classroom sizes increasing some of it. Yeah. We >> Mr. Daniels and I have had that conversation. I mean so we're already negative. >> Oh yeah. Based on Yeah. Because you change the staffing standards

040there's already there was a reduction in this year's budget that that filled the hole. >> But the principles in the schools haven't seen that implemented. They'll see it next year. >> They'll see it next year. Right. My point when when they start talking budget, they're already in the hole. >> We've had ASER money, COVID money, all in Virginia money. They haven't seen anything like this in years. It >> So, yeah, for those positions, the other positions we've been using for three years that were built into that grant. Those positions, if we want to keep it in those long term, will have to be built in or they go away. >> Yep. And I I think that's important to to get that number. And if you already have it, you socialize it with us so we

041can start talking. >> We'll do >> in addition to I think it was 1.8 that we had to fund out of that to to to keep the current standards. So what is that additional dollar amount that we need to add to the 1.8 8. So we can start having that conversation because things like what we're talking about for Thursday night, people the community needs to understand the numbers that we're facing and how that's impactful and and by not doing anything how it does. >> Well, you're looking forward and saying, you know, what does the future hold and do we have look at the challenges we have which is our operating budget? >> Correct. >> Is there money to go ahead and do expansion at schools? >> There there's no the construction money is not there.

042Correct. >> Um and the maintenance reserve or even >> you could borrow but that's borrow money >> especially takes more money especially if adding on to a school helps >> alleviate maintenance and other things like long-term savings would be there if we could spend but we don't even have the money to do it. So we can't save the money long term. So, all right. Uh, schedule next meeting November. You guys are out the week of Thanksgiving. >> Just Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. >> Okay. >> The 24th. >> 24th is a Monday. 25th. Is that Tuesday? Are you >> I'm according to my schedule on here. >> You guys good with that Tuesday? >> Tuesday. I have CPO at 3:00. >> Okay. >> Tuesday the 25th. >> Yeah. >> I can always move it. No, I'm just

043kidding. >> I'm not going to I'm just thinking I'm just thinking of the agenda. I'll give you guys the agenda if I know I'm bringing Sheldon back, but I don't know if I have anything else right now except some of the budget items, but that might be premature. But >> so possibly push it into like the first or second week of December. >> We could, but you know, then you're really prepping for budget. Um and then I have a lot more data. Um, if we meet if we meet on the 25th and maybe we don't meet in December, I don't know. >> Okay, that's fine. All right. My goal is to have it and this is the Robert H re having this conversation again is bringing the finance committees together in November. >> Okay. >>

044So that's >> November or early December. So I depends on what what the two can agree. >> So we meet on the 25th then early December would work. >> Yeah. Maybe for that joint meeting. So you guys sit here and talk about what are we going to deliver? >> Yeah. >> Is that right? >> Well, what what what I'm going to try to deliver leading up to that >> individually is is the difference between what they think and what they don't know. And that is where our needs truly are. So we need to continue to have this discussion so that we can take real numbers and data over there. >> Yep. It's what our needs are, our immediate needs and also what our three to five year needs are. >> Yep. So, I'll bring back

045enrollment numbers and things you asked about that. I'll bring back >> and the reason I showed you >> and I'm sorry I it's not just uh us communicating with the board of supervisors and the admin over there. It's the public that needs to understand here's what we need and here's the amount of dollars that it takes to fund that. These are the choices. the these are the options that we're going to have to make decisions on and then they're going to have to start talking with board of supervisors to encourage them of what the needs are versus what what the outcome's going to be. So, you know, I >> and we tried that last year. We put that out and and we also said these are the options that are out there, not options we

046may be willing to take. And >> everyone's like you're going to shut down Susie G. >> It's like that's not what >> 3:00 in the afternoon. >> CPO's in here. >> Huh? CPO is in here at 3:00. >> You meet >> Can you do 9:00 that morning or do y'all y'all have >> Is anything 9:00? >> Can you do 9 >> on Tuesday? >> Yeah. >> Is that the 25th? >> We can do it right before if you want to do 1:30. >> That's fine. >> Right before you have a >> Well, you >> that's a lion. You got Can you do that and I can do that? I can do this one. Okay. Well, >> I mean, I don't have to be here, but if we're recording, it has to be in this, right?

047>> Um, we got a 10 o'clock with our consultants. >> Okay. >> Can we start like at 8:30? >> Sooner than 9. >> I can't I can't do not I can't do that. I have too early. >> Standing meetings. >> What about like 11? >> Is that too late? >> I mean, >> what? >> You have standing meetings until what time? >> Um, they'll go to like 11 or so. Can we do Monday at 3? Does that work for you guys? >> IGA. >> Okay. >> On November 24th. I have that on the list. >> That's what I have. 3:00. >> You want to look at December 2nd then? Is that good? >> That's fine. December 2nd's fine. >> That not right. >> Yeah, I have IG 23rd at 3:00. >> 24th. >> December 2nd

048at 3. >> Yeah. Let me check the room. Okay. >> Because you guys like to stream this one, I think. So, >> November 23rd. That's a Sunday. >> That's a Sunday. >> I'm in next year. >> The yard over there. >> Can you see? >> No, I'm not. I'm >> Can you see if this room's available? >> That kind of week. >> Yes. What day? >> Uh the second. We're going to move it to the next Tuesday at 3:00 in the afternoon. December 2nd. >> I had an idea. >> And if we were going to meet with the finance committee of the board of supervisors, I need to know when in early December that's going to >> I'll talk to Mr. prepare maybe for the week after the the 2nd >> like around the 9th.

049>> Yeah, before we kind of break. Yeah, right around there. So, >> yeah, I could do that the week after that. It would have to be. >> Would that work? Is that too late? >> Yeah, let's just sit down and figure out what dates >> to make sure that they have a couple to choose from. >> Okay. >> Are you Are you asking me about the second or no? Not anymore. >> Yeah, the second >> At three is fine. December 2nd, 3 p.m. >> All right. >> And I will add it for you, Randy. >> Any other topics? >> Have a motion to adjurnn. >> So move. We are adjourned.

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