001the budget work session and the first thing is district building administration pages 58 5-84 >> now >> I am ready these are our last four sections of the book or of the this this book >> he's gonna share >> I'm gonna share um Did we give him permission to share? >> Yep. Repeat the page numbers. >> If you didn't see it, Laura is asking for the page numbers again. >> So, we're starting at page 5-84. And this is function 2311, board of education services. This is uh this is the function uh where we pay for the uh membership with the Connecticut Association of Boards of Education and the National uh Boards of Education. Um as well as the cost of any board members attending the uh the conferences conference. So if we go down to
002page 5-85 >> here are the expenses. Um there is uh it's the same amount as last year. Uh we have $4,200 in there for travel, which is really the the cost of the of the convention or any and any uh travel that would be associated. Uh $500 for food supplies and uh the 25541 under dues is the cost for the CABE and NS NSBA memberships. And Andrea, I have a I have a couple of questions. >> I'm sorry. I forgot. >> I'll I'll lower my hand. >> I'm gonna go with you and then Liz. I'm sorry. >> Okay. When it says travel for administration, $4,200, are they talking about board of ed or administration in the schools? >> No, that's the cost for the board of ed to uh attend either the cave conferences or
003or any cost to uh to attend any sort of conference. So, the board of ed members. >> So, could we clarify that please? >> Yeah, I will change I will change that. And um I noticed last year it was estimated it was less naturally. Um I don't believe that and I I can't I don't know why nobody is going to the national schoolboard conference. It's a wonderful conference. It's in Orlando this year a I think around April 4th. Um I you know we always had that in the budget for travel for schoolboard members. two school board members and our superintendent would also travel there. Um it's it's a one wonderful wonderful conference if for those people that have attend CA this is like cave on steroids. There are just so many wonderful presenters and um
004I I would highly recommend you know at least two people from our board being able to travel there and I would like to be able to break out the the difference between the CABE the cost two belong to CABE and the cost that for the NSBA which is the national schoolboard conference do you have that Ken separated? I I don't have that here in front of me. I I do have that at >> I remember it was usually around 5,000 to belong to the National School Board Association and CA was over 20,000 and at one point we were thinking of cutting that um and then contracting with K for individual services because they've gone up so much over the years in price. So I would like to see that separated to see how much it
005really costs for National School Board and how much it costs for Connecticut boards that you know the K association. >> Okay. >> But but there should be something for board travel and it should definitely not say administration and and you know this would be the cost. Um, I mean, I've even done it where I've paid for my own travel, but then the um, Graten has paid to attend the conference. So, there are ways that board members could go, you know, where it wouldn't be as much of a cost of the district, but professional development is extremely important, and I believe board members should, you know, have the opportunity to attend the national school board meetings. Thank you. Rita, you stole my thunder. I was going to ask if we could break out K versus NSBA
006because I think it's important. The other thing is is um I do know of some other boards of education that are considering um not having association with CAPE and and doing things with, you know, like contracting out for services. And maybe this is a time we start thinking about that. I'm not sure. really if that's the the one the way we should go, but I think it's something's worth discussing. So, um I just wanted I just wanted to piggy back on that. >> Does anybody else have any questions or comments? >> I know Beverly um I know she's attended I've attended conference at National School Board with Beverly. So Beverly, feel free to join in anytime. >> Andrea has his hand raised. >> Thank you. Uh first of all, thank you Rita. I had no
007idea that that was a possibility that there was history of that. So thank you for that, Rita. With regard to CABE, um I don't know enough to have an opinion of what we should do, but I think we shouldn't be precipitous to do it immediately. I think there should be some additional research on what services we need, what services we don't need, and what the costs would be before we make any decision. Thank you, >> Rita. I I don't I don't have a raised hand on my computer, but um you're you're absolutely right. Years ago, when I first got on the board in 1993, no board members ever went to um the NSBA. And then George Riley, the superintendent at the time, he started encouraging board members to go to NSBA. And so I went
008and then I would come back and give a presentation and then other board members started going. Rita went with me and Brian went. But it it is an excellent conference. You get well-known keynote speakers. I can't even think of all we had Sandra de Orana, Matteline Albbright, Bill Clinton. I mean, it is a phenomenal conference. But I have to say, and I think Rita might remember this, the last time I wanted to go before I got off the board, the board voted no for me to go. And that was very discouraging. And because years before that, >> because I was vice president of Cab, CAB used to pay for me to go. And then when I stepped down from Cab and I wanted to go, um, the board voted no. So that just showed me
009the board wasn't interested in um education for their board members and that's a shame too, >> right? But not all board members voted no. But yeah, I mean and I don't know even know why it went up for a vote. I I I don't ever remember that happening ever before that one time right before you left the board. But I've been able to go um with learn the past few years. this year. I'm not I'm not attending. Other um other learned board members are going to be going. >> So I I have a question. Maybe Rita, you can answer this. I I can't imagine if there's something in the budget. What procedure do you use to vote yes or no? I >> I I don't know why that ever happens. I I don't you know
010why went up for a vote that time? It never happened before and it nobody's ever gone again. So, and why you should distinguish between CABE and the National School Board, which to me is like in a whole different category than CA um because it's so well and you meet people, board members from all over the United States and even from other from other countries, you know, in Puerto Rico and Hawaii. I mean it's just a wonderful experience and I highly recommend it for um at least two of our board members. It's better to go with another person and usually the superintendent Dr. Mitchell always used to go every year. So anyway, that's just >> maybe maybe so that we're talking about >> children why. >> Yeah, we're talking about why how what procedure does the
011board use to preclude a a a member from going to the national school board about this? Beverly said that the board voted when she was on. Maybe it was before your time when she was on. >> No, Kim was on the board then, too. I'm pretty sure >> she was on she voted no. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Well, maybe you can talk to us later about procedure. >> I I just walked in so I'm not I'm not in context so I don't know what that is. >> Okay. So, just think about it and the next time we get together maybe we can talk about >> about whether we vote about whether people go to conferences or not. >> Right. whether the board members when there's money in the budget report. I think both know that
012somebody can can't go >> a question. We'll catch up. >> Oh, I'm sorry, Matthew. Go ahead. I'm I'm turning over again. >> Wait. >> So, my question is, and I don't know that anybody has the answer. Perhaps Susan does. What would the cost be for two board members to attend a conference? Well, >> put us up. Let's divide it up. I don't know what the airfare would be, but you know, just for the two for the conference cost. >> We could look it up. We could just go online and look it up. I don't really >> I guess my question is >> about a thousand bucks. >> Pardon? >> about a thousand bucks what you know nonparticipating.com and cube and I don't know. So, >> and we're members so we get a discount and if
013you register by a certain date you get more of a discount. Um >> yeah. So if depending on what we qualify for. If we're a member state association, we do early bird. It's 850 >> versus 1400. If we do onsite, >> I don't know. There's >> it up. Thank you. >> Okay. >> I'm just wondering if there's a feeling that it would be useful to include add a budget line. Um, I know we're all scared of adding anything to the budget, but um, 2,000 out of >> But it's already there. >> 90 million. >> It's already there. It's already >> much more than last year. >> Okay. Well, then then thank you. I' like to hope that you guys leadership will consider making that available to board members. Thank you. >> Okay. Moving on. Are
014we finished? I was still Okay. >> Okay. So, we're going to move on to page 5-86. Um, this is superintendent uh office services. Uh, for FTEES, we have the superintendent, assistant, assistant superintendent, director of HR as well as 7.4 FTE uh of clerical uh that work uh in the central office. Um and just a note under the under the program description that uh the costs for the town pension which covers uh three groups. The custodial maintenance tech group, the school secretaries and the co staff um is shared equally between this uh this function and the next one the business office function. Um if we go down to 5-87 the expenses um under salaries um we have put in a 2% uh increase under administration as well as clerical you'll notice a under 114 an increase
015of 57 and 134 a decrease of 40,000. Uh that's a shift due to a pending retirement um uh that that we were making an adjustment for. Um, >> and we'll be able to showcase that when we give you this week the superintendent's adjusted budget. So any of these things that need to be tweaked because of retirements, we'll be sharing that with you so you'll see what it's actually coming out to. >> Uh, so overall salaries and wages up 2.9%. Uh, under employee benefits, um, I'll point out a line 213, that's the town retirement or town pension that I mentioned before. Um this this is based upon an estimate that we had uh at the time we put the book together. Uh we are working with the town to get a final number for for this
016uh and we are uh we'll we'll present that as well uh on the adjusted um superintendent budget. Uh under purchase services uh which is professional services and legal legal services. professional services such as fingerprinting, background checks, legal updates, and then the actual legal services from the law office um is an increase of $94 over last year's budget or this year's budget, sorry. Um the purchase property services, uh repair of equipment such as the postage machine, laminator, uh office equipment, and um copers. um uh an increase of $82 and rental for those same machines, uh those same office machines, uh an increase of $37. So that's an increase of 1% over this year's budget. Uh down under other purchase services, postage, uh we are experienced a decrease in the usage of postage. So, we're uh proposing
017a decrease of $2,000 there uh with the other uh areas left flat. So, a decrease of $2,000 for other virtual services. Um general admin supplies or total supplies, I'm sorry, are down uh or proposed down to be $500. Um and under dues, uh the dues, there's an increase of $540. uh dues are for um National Association of Federally Impacted Schools uh for CAPS for National Association for Gifting the Talented some U HR associations as well as Chamber of Commerce. So the total amount for uh the superintendent office services uh is an increase of just under $50,000 or 3.1% over this year's budget. I'm gonna I'll recognize William and then Rita. Yeah. >> Um can you explain town retirement for me? Like what is that? >> So there there are three groups that uh that are
018uh eligible for the town uh pension plan. That's the custodial maintenance tech group, the school secretaries, and then the central office staff. >> And so if it's from the town, why do we have to put money into it? So the employees uh uh contribute uh a percent or portion and then the uh the town or the >> department contributes another portion. >> Okay. >> Do you have thoughts about that? >> Yeah. I mean they're no longer on our payroll, but they're still on our payroll. You know, still on our budget. They're retired. These are retired not this isn't the contribution for active members contributing to their you know expected retirement. >> They're the ones who have retired and are retired. >> Well, so uh we get in a report annually um from the actuaries that
019look at the pension plan and they calculate out what the contribution is from the town and from the board of Could maybe Ken >> maybe you could tell us um Ken exactly how many people are in the are on that line because some are still in the central office and they're not retired. Correct. >> They're getting attention. >> Um >> well it's their >> saying the active active um recipients or >> Yeah. Are there any active recipients that that put in to town retirement? >> Yeah. So, so active employees. >> Yes. Yes. Yeah. The they're the the uh the custodial maintenance tech group, the school secretaries, and the central office staff, >> right? >> I don't have a number of how many people it is, >> right? But it would be good to know how
020many people that is. And um my I have a couple of questions. One question would be if the group insurance other if that will go down because there's one there'll be one less like looks like there's one less administr administrative assistant or ad clerical and admin so does that affect all the other lines >> so there there is no change in the FTEES for clerical administration what we're doing up above is is we're shifting um because we are there is a pending retirement uh and we are shifting uh uh folks around but it's going to be the same number of people uh this year versus last uh next year. >> Okay. And then my next question is the travel for administrators and travel for workshops and convention is almost $10,000 and that seems to be
021excessive when you consider the board line is 4,200 and there are many more board members who could you know receive professional development. So, I just want to, you know, be aware of that line. And also, every year we we talk about you build in something for administration for raises with before you talk to the board. So, what did you do this year? >> Uh, there's a 2% uh increase uh in there. >> Okay. Now, that's something I I believe the board would really I mean, I'd like to discuss it as a board member and maybe get that down to one or 1.5%. >> Um I I think every year it's 2% 2% 2%. It just really has been adding up and the salaries are great, you know. Um everyone works hard, but I do feel
022that every single year and we've also talked about accountability. Maybe there are some people that are working a lot harder and deserve more than 2% and maybe there are other people that aren't and you know we need to to be have evaluations in place. So anyway that's my thoughts about this section of the budget. Beth, >> um, Ken, I was just wondering on the clerical temp it last year in FY23 it was 40,000 and, um, this year it zeroed out. Can you tell me why you zeroed that out? We're not using temps anymore. >> So, uh, what we're doing is we're shifting, uh, due to a pending retirement. Uh so we're we're we're attempting to to uh uh maybe to have a a full-time um that that point4 be a full-time not not change the
023the number of FTEEs but uh uh change the classification um uh but it's it's the same number of employees this year versus last year or next year. >> So the the temp employee just went into the permanent employee slot. >> We we we we put that in there for classification. Yes. Okay, thank you. >> Any other questions? >> So, Rita, would you like to have your question about the 2% go to finance and facilities? >> Um, no. I I think that's that's a board discussion and we usually have that but you know when we have it is June and then Ken comes to us and says well we already built in 2%. in June when we go to discuss it, it's too late then. I think I asked last year that we had this like
024in November while the budget was being built and not do it in June because then you know they say well but we already put it in the budget. So I I believe this discussion should be ahead of time not after the budget's already in place and it's voted on. But before and if it goes to finance and facility, that's going to be too late. By the time they meet and it comes back to the board, the budget will already be voted on. >> Well, we won't have a committee of the whole meeting. Did I just do something? >> We're talking about budgets now. I mean, this is time. This is when we're doing budgets. We're trying to get a um gallery view. I'm sorry. We're working on the computer. >> We're getting help here. >>
025I don't have that either. I should >> Okay, I guess this is as good as it going to be. All right. Sorry. You know, when we talk about our when we do the contracts for our, you know, teachers and our administrators and our peer professionals, we know exactly what their raises, you know, are going to be. We bargain, we bargain that. We need to do that with our central office staff also the same way, but not do it after the fact, but ahead of time. And last year they said we said well let's do it in November like at you know before while the budget's being built and that that didn't happen and then again here we are presented with it and it's already built in so we can unbuild it basically. I'm going to
026recognize Jay and then William. >> Um, I just want to mention that with inflation at 6.45% and the Social Security increase at 5.9%. I'm wondering if Ken could contact his colleagues to get a sense of what's going on statewide. um with administrative raises. Um I'm just not sure that this is the year with these these soaring numbers um to uh to be cutting the administrators. Um so maybe a little more data for our discussion uh would be helpful. >> We do use as as a basis we use the administrative our uh internal administrative contract as a as a as a guide. The administrative contract for this year is an increase of 2.25 um just to give you um some context, but I can certainly reach out to the CASBO group and find out if there's
027any information in regards to statewide uh administrative uh wages. >> Thank you, >> William. >> So, if we So, you're saying that it's 2.25 25 is the increase in salary for >> for the for the contracted uh union. Um >> no, not for superintendent. >> That's 2%. >> We put in here 2%. >> So if we did 1.5, we'd save $2,700 on the budget. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Well, and and this is just just so just to be clear, this is just three of the administrators. I believe there are seven, >> but still it's a spread from this aspect right here. 105 that would be a $2,700 sav. >> Yeah. >> Right. Thank you. >> Jay, do you still have a question? >> No, I'm all set. I'm sorry. I thought I lowered it.
028>> All right. So, hopefully we can have that um I have a question. >> Okay. >> I think the difference can with the administrator's contract which we bargain with, they have a much higher co-pay for their health insurance than the central office administrators do. And there aren't just two. And it's much more than that because it's 2% across the board for all the clerical. Also, it's not just administration. you're putting the 2% in. So, it's all the administrators plus all the clerical in the in the central office. Um, but we do they have um much much lower copay than our administrators are up to about what is it 23 24% for their co-pay and I know the central office staff is well below that. So, those are things. It's different when you bargain a contract
029with a group of people than it is when it's just automatically put in and there's no discussion about it. That's that's what I'm talking about. >> Beverly. >> Uh thank you. Um I agree with Rita. I think it is something that the board should talk about and I thought we had a discussion last year about raising the co-pay of central office people up to what the administrators were paying for co-pay. >> There has been an adjustment in in the amount of the copay. I don't know those exact amounts. Um but there was an increase. Can you can you get that for us so we can see how far apart the administrator's co-pay is compared to the um central office people? >> Any other questions? >> Great. Moving on. >> All right. Page 5-88. This is
030uh the business office uh for FTEES. Uh one business manager and six uh clerical. Uh and then I'll note again that um the cost of the town pension, this is the other half that we saw in the last function is is recorded here. Uh so down on page 5-89 um you'll see the uh the costs. Um so there is uh the uh there's an administrator and the six um uh administration the 2% increase uh that we talked about before. Um if you notice down on line two 213 town retirement, there's that other half of the of that of that uh that cost being uh reported here. uh overall a 4.6% increase in employee benefits. Uh under professional services is the cost of our audit services as well as upgrades to the uh einance system. Uh
031that's an increase of uh $500 or 1%. Uh no change in other purchase services. Uh a decrease of $500 under supplies and an increase of $25 under dues. and that's uh our um membership to the CASBO. That's the Connecticut Connecticut Association of School Business Officials. Uh so a total increase for this uh section of $30,686 or 3%. Do >> I have any questions or comments? >> I have a question. Um, Ken, where where are you traveling to? Like $1,800. Are there is there a conference that you attend? >> It's it's it's traveling about the district and it is attending uh CASBO events and conferences uh that they have throughout the year. >> Okay. Okay. So, and then again the line um 213 town retirement if you could break out for us how many people that
032is. I didn't realize it was over a half million dollars that were putting in. So, it would be nice to see what who how many people are I didn't know why you broke it up and how many people are in each group. >> Yeah, this is the way we we've always broken it out between the these two uh uh functions. Um uh but it's it's a number that we get from directly from the town and they do have the number of participants on that report. So I just have to get that for the most recent period. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions? >> All right, let's move on. >> All right, this is our last section. >> Yeah. Having fun yet, Ken? >> No, this board has done a tremendous job getting through this
033book. >> Uh here we are at the page 5-90. This is school administration. Uh the first uh section is our FTEES. These are our principles and assistant principles at the schools. Um and so in total 20 uh uh administrators at the school level. Uh the 113 and 133 is clerical at the schools. Um and you'll know uh broken out by school. Uh you'll see a total of 13 for that group. And then our security ums supervision, but the security guards um we have uh 4.5 in this year, but we are proposing 5.5 for next year, an increase of one. Um we currently do have some of these folks on staff. They're being funded through the ARBs uh grant um and we are proposing to uh pay for those through the board operations total of 5.5
034between the two secondary schools. Um then down under expenses uh we have the principles assistant principles then the clerical which are all per contract. uh the increase in the security line is uh a 2% increase plus the uh the 1.0 FTE discussed uh on the previous page. Uh so overall a 2.4% increase in salaries. Uh employee benefits uh an increase of 4.5%. That's mainly due to the increase in group insurance costs. uh down under professional services um or purchase services, sorry. Um we have uh it's actually a decrease of $800. Uh the big line there is line 331, professional services. That's the two SRO's that are stationed, one at each of the um secondary schools. Um I have an updated number for that. Um so we will we'll be giving you that uh with the
035adjusted superintendent uh budget. Um we'll be look at that next time. Um repair of equipment. This is repair of instruments uh other office equipment. Um there is an increase here. Um it looks like in the pri prior year we did we did spend 10,615. Uh so it looks like we do need uh to fund this uh section more. Um under other purchase services. uh some up, some down, but over overall an increase of $700 or 2.5%. For supplies, um it's a uh it's a decrease of um three $3,500 or 9%. Um for equipment, uh an increase of $1,000. Um this is for last year we bought a special printer and some bookshelves. We're anticipating we might need to do the same again this year. That's for the high school. And then finally under dues, uh
036there is a there is an increase of $7,200. Uh that is coming from the high school. Uh that is due to uh uh $3,500 for Ed Rising and $4,500 for NNDCC. And I I don't know exactly what that acrement stands for. >> National Naval Defense Cadet Corp. Um, so overall for dues and fees, that's an increase of 50 uh 54.7%. But for total school administration, it's an increase of 118,000 uh or 2.7% over the current year budget. >> I'm going to recognize William and then Liz >> for 331 professional services. You mentioned SRO. What does that stand for? >> Oh, I'm sorry. I should have said that's a security resource officer. So, it's a it's a police officer stationed at the one at the middle school, one at the high school. >> Miss um can
037when we were talking about um the the staff at the high school and the middle school, we were talking about how the um curriculum coordinators they're 41 place or five one place. Is that is that indicated here in this part? >> Not in this part. So the those those curriculum coordinators 0.5 of them is in that other section. Um >> they get teaching staff >> teaching and learning. Yeah. Something like that. And the other half they're in >> their salary. >> They're in Yeah. Like whatever their u like ELA would be in language arts >> for instance. >> So So they're broken up half teacher half administrator >> subject area. >> Yeah. Do you have a followup on that? >> I'm just a little I'm mulling that over. >> You're mulling that over. Okay. So,
038should I stay with the mole or do I need Okay, >> so I'm going to recognize Matthew and then Rita. >> Thank you. Um, going back to the security line that we looked at, Ken, >> uh, you may the board may have discussed this at the one meeting that I missed. If so, I apologize for plowing old ground. But some months ago, I'd asked about uh security at our elementary schools. And I don't know what if anything the board discussed on that. Uh, I'm not suggesting that we need police officers as SRO's, but it would seem to me that we need some at the minimum some cross trainining for staff so we can have a designated person at each elementary school who has some reasonable amount of training to respond to emergencies and be a
039liaison with police authorities when they police fire whomever ambulance when they get there. Um, could you comment on that? Is is this something the board has discussed? >> I can I can comment on that, Matthew. Um, what we have is the DARE program at each of the elementary schools. And with that, what I've come to find out is that those DARE officers also are the ones who are checking in on the schools on a regular basis. As a matter of fact, ths river is the only city school and they happen to have a DARE officer who's connected to Thes and is in Thes quite often. So, I brought that to the police chief's attention as something to have that go-to person. Couple of them have the dogs that come in and the kids really are
040very fond of the dogs. And I think just having a police officer who knows the building, knows the staff, has walked the halls, and is doing more of that community policing um has been a real comfort to our principles. They've actually told me that that they've really appreciated that more so than when I asked them, "Would you rather have a security guard?" they really thought having maybe additional time from those SR from those you know DARE officers who you know could be part SRO but not full-time. So that's that's what I've gotten from my staff when I've asked the question and I've talked to Chief Visaro a little bit about how that could possibly happen through a grant maybe to extend their time. >> So that's that's very reassuring. It would be my hope and
041I'm only speaking as one out of nine that at every one of the schools we have some type of presence. Uh how administration chooses to structure that is beyond my pay grade to put it mildly. U but if a problem arises and it might be a medical emergency, it might be an accident, whatever it happens to be that there's somebody who's designated in each school to perform that cross function. Uh if that's not something we need to do with the budget at this time, I easily can accept that. But if we don't do it now, Kim, could we put that on our docket for some cow in the future? >> I'm I'm writing it down now >> as an agenda topic. >> And I certainly agree with you. I and I think the um I
042think the administrators in the buildings in elementary would also say that they really appreciate that partnership that they have and they probably would like to see them there even more often. So, we've communicated that to the police chief. >> Thank you for bringing it up. >> Um I'm going to recognize um Rita, Bev, and then Liz. >> Okay. Um, you know, often times we hear that, you know, 76% of this budget or more is staff. So, the only thing we can do really to decrease, you know, some of this is um is staffing. And when you look at the area high school around us, we're the only high school and middle school that has a principal and three assistants. I think it's time now to really think about our budget and think about, if you
043look at East Lime High School, they have a principal. They have um one assistant principal is for grades 9 and 12 and then the other one is grades 10 and 11. I they have more students than we have in our school. So, I really think we need to start thinking a little bit if we're going to have to tighten our belt and reduce this budget, we're going to have to think about staffing. So, it's just something I want to put out there and I want to, you know, I mean, it's it's sort of o there's o overabundance to me of administrators. So, that's what I'd like to say. Thank you, >> Beverly. >> Um Um I'm just going to piggyback on what Rita just said. Not only that, it's the staffing that we're going to
044have to have to acquire. That's that the me the staff people that we're going to have to acquire that are now being funded by grants and eventually they're going to come over to our budget. And that's going to really be a a big increase also. So those are I agree to reader we really have to take a look at our staffing. We do seem to have a lot of staff and um Tam can I ask you a question? Could you explain the security line again to me? The 128. >> Sure. These these are security guards that are at the the middle and high school. >> Okay. Now, did you say they were funded by OP ESSA and now they're in our budget? I I missed that. >> Okay. Uh so we we do have more
045than we have 4.5 uh in the current year budget. We do have more than that. Uh there some they are being funded in part by the uh by the RFSER grant. And so that that's that's why we're we're uh saying adding uh requesting to add one uh one FTE to this budget so that uh when RPs goes we'll we will have uh taken it onto this budget. >> How many are being funded by OP esser? >> Um I don't have that particular number in front of me. >> We can get that number to you though. Yep. And that's the kind of thing I'm talking about now that you know we're funding these security officers from AR ESSA and eventually they're going to be coming to the board of education's budget. So if the budget already
046is increased 4% this year, can you imagine what it's going to be in years to follow? >> Oh, did you hear what I said? >> Yes. >> Okay. I've got Liz and then I want Andrea. Okay, Ken, I've gone and I'm looking at the um for the administration. I'm thinking about those curriculum coordinators >> and I'm on 5-24 which is for social studies who know I go and flip to that one, right? >> And could you please I see this high school 9.3. Now I understand that three is the curriculum coordinator for the teaching element. Correct. >> Uh I have I don't have to look. >> What page are you on? >> 9 5-24 >> and we're looking at the high school. Yeah, it says 9.3. So I'm taking that the.3 is the.3 that that
047person um now it's Laura Johnson is this is where this is her teaching assignment and then the 7 would be administrative. >> Um so it's 0.5 of the whatever position is actually vacant when I when I put this together. It's 0.5 of a teacher, but there's also 75 of another teacher. >> Let's see where else is she. >> So, it's not 9.3, it's 9.5. >> It's n It's actually 9.25. This this rounded up. >> Okay. >> So, it is um it's >> it's um >> Was this done though when the person was in place who was at the high school? And maybe we need to adjust that to put it in the right place perhaps or No, >> no, no. I think I think this is this is correct. Um I have >> um eight
048full FTEEs. I got a 0.5 of the of the other part of the the curriculum coordinator and then a 75 of another position that's also split between this and another function. >> So it's it's in total >> 9.25. So what what what do we have for teaching? We have eight teachers, >> eight full FTEEs, right? We got a.5 FTE and a 75 FT. >> Oh, because the other part of the position is in world language and that person. That's a point humanities. The humanities and >> that we still have that Latin class. So that's why she's dually certified. Okay, >> that just made sense to me. Thank you. >> Languages. You're right. >> Yep. >> And so, so that's for their teaching assignment. Where in this budget do you show their administrative assignment? Is that
049on this? >> We did review that. That was under teaching and learning. >> She's she's just trying to assimilate >> was under it under your6 teaching and learning. >> Okay. Oh, okay. I got it. I'm sorry. I just couldn't remember and I was trying to figure this out and it wasn't making sense to me, but I see it now. Thank you. >> Under 105 and 108. You see it? >> I see it. >> Thank you. >> It's just that with those split groups, they're all over the place. And I almost feel like they need to be it really needs to be spelled out this a lot clearer for for us to see that. Not a criticism, believe me. >> There's a reason I was a social studies teacher for 30 years. >> And and this
050is not a crit criticism. That is a a not a unique position, but that curriculum coordinator between 6 through 12. And I don't know if there's some place where like in a narrative to say you'll find this on budget line blank blank for that piece so that people can kind of >> match it up. >> Yeah. Because it is it is confusing. >> Yeah. I have a note to to to update the program uh description or clarify curriculum coordinator. Uh >> there you go. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we're >> we can say the other.5 is can be found. >> We can the places that would be great. Thank you. Any other questions? Oh, I forgot. Andrea, she just happens to be saying by this is a question for Susan. I'm always hearing about our fear
051of running out of grants, but they seem to be out there for the asking as it were. So, I I'm my my first question is can you reapply for a grant? And what's the real threat out there of us not sustaining getting or gathering another real or anything? >> Well, I think Beverly brought up a good point. We certainly have been paying attention to what's in our Besser and we know that that's going to end. Um there is something called the CAPS blueprint which gives a you know a lot of credence for at when you're at the cliff. There's also this bill 503 um should that be passed that will absolutely safeguard but we've also prioritized in those grants what will we need to keep on doing and that's you know a very select few
052staff and then what can we do we not need to have so we are keeping all of that in mind but for instance we're looking at um the DODIA grants for next year to get another million dollar grant that would help us with some of the magnet partnerships that you might even see in this budget, you know, the project O. So, there's some things that we might be able to take care of, you know, um should we get that grant that would help us. >> We really shouldn't be all that anxious about following up. >> I I know that we get a report from our grants director, like I think I get a report from her every week and it's amazing how many she's actually tackled. um we went for one that was in special
053ed and we were hoping to secure a a social worker through that and continue that but it it was given to other towns and not ours. So there are times that we don't receive the grants, but there are more often times that we do receive. And I think having a grants, you know, director here and knowing that we're constantly keeping our eyes open for those grants and what is really doable and she's so good at writing these and collecting the data with Phil's help that, you know, we've been very fortunate and I I figure, you know, we've got the right people on the bus to help us continue to look for those things and we do. Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Well, I'm sad to say that the initial view of the budget is done.
054Now the hard hard work is done. >> Um >> I think Beverly wants to speak. >> I Beverly, do you >> I just have a quick question. Susan, is it possible for you to um give us how many staff members we have added in the last five years or the last four years so we could see how the staff has grown? How many, you know, what was the staff like? >> I think we have that on a chart, but I can get it back out to you. I think one of Kim's nifty charts has that exactly like what we what we secured over time with the the three four different ers including the ARPser. Um most of the DODIA grants they have project directors that um you know will be doing it for the five
055years and then when it's done it's done. So anything that staffingwise tends to be there. the world language we put in for two additional teachers, but that's covered for the next five years. And we can actually apply for another world language grant that could continue on that journey. So, those are the things that Andrea was bringing up that there are other grants that can help us along the way as well. But we can I'll definitely look for that. I feel like I have something in my mind, Beverly, when you asked me that question. I can see it. >> So, I'll make sure you get a copy, >> Matthew. Uh Susan, uh after the budget is done, thank God, could you share with us what languages you have in mind for the uh world language program?
056>> Yes. And I think there's probably even another um survey coming out to the public to to get more response from our community. I think that would be right now we really have French and um Spanish in our schools, but we certainly can look and and try to, you know, figure out what else the community is looking for >> there. I wonder if there might not be some really significant grant opportunities if we were to be able to offer Chinese. >> Well, and I think there's talk about how we can collaborate as a restaurant. >> So, I'm going to This is great conversation. I'm sorry I'm off topic. >> This is No, no. I I have this down as an agenda item. It's I think what you're talking about, Matthew, is I think that we're
057all anxious to kind of get back to the business of Well, this is the business of the board, but to get back to kind of talking about things that we would like to see or not to see. So, I have that down. Beverly, your hand was up >> and now it's not. I now I just wanted us to keep in mind and I know I'm on the board of education and I'm all in for students and what they need and staff but let's keep in mind even though we talk about inflation going up and that's the reason for raises and stuff like that. A lot of taxpayers aren't getting raises and they experience inflation too. So, we have to keep all that in mind as we are going through this budget and going to present
058it to the town and to the RTM. >> Point well taken, Beverly. >> All right, so we're going to be moving down to the review um of the DoD supplemental impact aid, which is attachment one. I'm going to share the schedule on the screen. Um, so the DoD supplemental impact aid is uh are funds that we receive from the Department of Defense that's based upon the impact aid uh numbers that we collect for the Department of Education. Um, and last year if this first column before the yellow uh one is uh what actually happened in FY22. uh we received 471,746 that was based upon FY21 um impact aid forms that we received. Um this is how we utilize the funds. Uh we we have we pretty much uh there's no um we can use these
059funds in any way that we see fit. Uh we have used this for technology uh purchases uh pretty exclusively um uh up until now. Um and so you can see last year we purchased some software. Uh we uh purchased some projection devices that's the um Prometheium boards and uh we paid the first installment of the staff devices uh that we had uh talked about. Uh so the ending balance for the DoD supplemental impact aid uh account was a million 365830. Uh we bring that to this year that's the yellow column. Um and we received at the in the August of this year um actually of 2022 473,000 so very similar to the amount that we received in 2022. Uh and then we spent it in a very similar we're planning on spending in a very
060similar fashion um uh software uh supplement our software purchases as well as u IT equipment to maintain the network and uh the staff devices. Um you'll see that we also have um uh there are some um mandated u universal screeners and interventions that we need to um uh to to do something with. And so we have put uh something in here for those those items uh at 75,000 each. So we're anticipating at the end of this uh this uh school year to be uh about a million 84,000. And I just want to say that those screeners and interventions, we're piloting some of that and that's going to go forecast over to the next year or two. So that that's not just a one-year shot. That's a that'll take care of us for a few years.
061>> And then if you look at our budget for 2024, we're hoping to receive a very similar amount um next year based upon this year's uh impact forms. And we plan on um uh utilizing in a very similar fashion uh uh for technology. Uh in the past we have used these this fund to fund our Chromebook onetoone initiative uh which we have not needed to do uh due to getting um those Chromebooks from a different uh a different funding source. Uh so we would anticipate at the end of this year to be somewhere in the 900 $94,000 um area. uh but what this particular uh report does is it it makes a worst case scenario uh that Grten doesn't get these funds uh in in the subsequent years. Uh we have to maintain a population
062of 19 and a half% or more of uh of of military dependent enrollment. Um so you know if if that were to happen we wouldn't we would stop receiving this uh this funding. Uh and so if we continued with our uh our Chromebook initiative, um we would run out in like two years >> by 2027. >> Yeah, definitely by 2027. Yep. >> We're getting people to fill in those impact aid forms and we're really being very hopeful and I know we have central office staff and and school staff that are working very hard to make sure we've accounted for every single student possible. But it's possible that the population would decrease to less than 19 and a half%. Which case that would be that would impact us receiving those funds. >> Rita, >> um I
063just want to know why you forecast that we're going to have fewer than 19.5% military dependence. I've never seen that before >> and I'm hoping that that doesn't happen. But I mean, just the fact that you forecasted it where how are we going to be able to absorb that amount of money, I I just don't I just can't see how we could, you know, not have this in our budget. And this is a supplemental impact aid. Does part of this DoD go also to the town? >> No, this goes directly to to the to the board of ed. I mean, it goes to the town for the board of ed use. I guess I should say >> it comes it does come to us. >> Yeah, >> they the town though does receive um $4
064million or their house >> that goes directly that's part of their revenue source. >> Yes, that's what I thought. Yeah. >> So, the reason that we're showing Oh, sorry. >> Yeah. I mean, so why are you showing that? I mean I would think that with General Dynamics increasing their employees and mean and if people live in Grten and work at General Dynamics that does count as mil as this part of this is isn't that correct? >> So they count for impact aid that does not count for the supplemental impact aid for the DoD is only going is only taking into account actual dependence of military personnel. >> Okay. And you feel that that's going to go down? >> Well, we we we have Harvard right above that 19 and a half% so it's it's a
065real possibility. Um we're do everything in our in our power not to but you know it could happen and so I think it's good for us to think about what would happen if that if that were to occur. That's that's one of the reasons that we maintain this fund is so that we can um we can continue with the with the initiative that we started and then have have time to make plans on what to do. >> Having B for Batty um right here in Brten does really draw in a big portion of the military community and there was a a time then they they were renting those apartments to non-military. I had heard that with the Columbia class being built and um stationed here that there would be the need for Balf Forbatt to
066make sure and secure more apartments for military. So I have that hopefulness, Rita. >> Yeah. >> And we're actually we're actually going to an event at the Navy Rec Center. Um like really staff members from across all the schools. We're setting up a table. I'm gonna hopefully get some military spouses who would like a job here and we're really going to we try to showcase Rotten as a very viable place to live for military families. >> That's great. Thank you. >> I'm going to recognize William. So with the uh impact aid are we limited in regards to what we can how we can invest that >> because we're seeing our interest earned as >> really >> so so it goes to the town the town puts it into an interest bearing account and that's that's
067what that's where this comes from. >> So the town >> the town maintains control of >> gave it to us. It's it's earmarked for us, but it goes to the town >> and they put it into >> this indust piggy bank >> essentially. >> Wow. >> There's also impact aid that goes directly to the town and the town can use it as they so that this one is absolutely like it goes to the town but it's it's it's written for only board of ed uses. >> Yeah. So my I mean because working with other organizations there are certain brands that we get or that we can only place it in certain types of accounts. It's limited like we can't put it into a specific CD or something like but if there's no limitations then the
068town owns the responsibility that they're not making any interest on this amount of money. especially when it's a loted that you know even if we say that we're going to go above 19 below 19.5 and it'll deteriorate we still should be looking at like right now there are some excellent CDs for large organizations to at least make us a little bit more money. >> We can talk to the town to find out what what what if any limitations there are and what options there are. Matthew, >> thank you William for anticipating my question. I was going to phrase it slightly differently. If we would be willing to uh now I know it's the town see if we could have a conference with the town and see if they'd be willing to get into something as
069speculative as one to threemonth US treasuries that are paying 4.3 to 4.7% right now. Uh I understand that the 473,000 is not going to sit in the account for a year, but uh [Music] we should be able to at least double if not triple that figure without any risk to to anybody. Could is that something we could chat about with John Bird? >> Absolutely. I'd be happy to have that conversation. >> Thank you, >> Andrew. I have a question about the do of funds that go to the town but they're earmarks for us and that is do we always expand all of that those those funds. >> So are you talking DoD supplemental impact aid or are you talking >> supplemental Yeah. >> So these funds they stay in there until until we expend them.
070So there's no limitation >> of to how we can spend it or how long it takes. >> Oh, I see. >> Historically, we have used it for our technology integration, for networking, for software, for Chromebooks, for leasing the teachers equipment. So that has been since Mike and I arrived. I don't know before that what was happening. >> It was the same. >> Was it the same? Okay. >> For all these years, it's always gone to technology and and computers. And there was this long 20 year plan that Yeah. >> Yeah, that makes sense. >> Yeah. >> Any other questions about the review of the supplemental impact aid? If not, let's move on to um operation budget plus grants, which would be option two. >> All right, I'm putting that up on the screen. Uh so
071this this is a um a schedule we put together a couple years ago because there was a question as to what is our total operating cost. And so what it does is it takes our operating budget and it adds in the the grants um that we um uh we talked about previously uh the categorical, the competitive and uh the coronavirus relief grants. And so you can see uh on this schedule in this first box that um >> it's actually not up. >> It's not Well, unless I look >> a lot better. >> There it is. >> There it goes. I don't know. Um, so now it's up. And so you can see that um total operating cost including grants if we're looking at the FY24 budget is 89,733. So that's a 83 that is in
072the superintendent budget plus those grants. Uh the next box down is uh it just takes the operating uh budget the number from above. It removes the revenue that comes directly to the town and that's those grants uh the competitive and the um uh categorical and corona relief virus grants and then the revenue that's received directly by the town. And so uh there you'll see the portion of the budget that uh is funded by the town. You'll see FY23 48,362 and FY24 52 million 418. Um there was a question as to the increase to the town's uh portion. >> Appleatch. >> Um if I can I'm going to stop sharing on this and share. I did a little calculation if I can find it. All right. So here's this this is that same schedule if it
073gets up there. Uh so the increase in town uh contribution in dollars is 4,55,000 that divided by the previous year is that eight 8.4% 4% or the 8% that um that we had been talking about. >> That's where that 8% comes from. Just so we're clear. >> Thank you. >> Y um and then the the bottom box is just a calculation of what portion of property tax collected supports the uh the board of ed budget. So you see for FY23 we were around 46.4%. We don't have what the uh projected property tax to be collected for this year is. So that's not yet available. That that's that we'll know that once uh a final budget is uh is is uh provided. >> William, >> so have we been about 46% historically? >> Um I can
074tell you last year >> 63. >> No, it's not 63. Uh, we were uh 48.4% in um in FY22. >> I'm not understanding. Ken, could you explain that? >> I'm seeing 63.1% with this year's budget. And how would that compare with last year? >> Okay, we if we can go down back to the next attachment, that might help. I think those are the numbers that you're quoting. Um, >> so I'm going to put that up on the on the board here. So this this is attachment number three actually. And um these are the revenues uh to support the board of ed budget. You'll see here um under >> Oh gosh, this this delay is killing me. >> Zoom is bugging right now. >> It is absolutely very >> talking on the first one. >> Yeah.
075I was going to let you know that Kathy Chase was up there and and it wasn't up there. It wasn't up there for a very long time. The first one took longer than the second one did. >> Well, it says I'm sharing >> Ken is fighting with his computer. >> What's visible now is the lower half. What's visible is the lower half lower half of attachment three without >> Here's the top part with with the nice bar graph. But what I really think we should concentrate on is down below. Uh this this this breaks out all of the different revenues that are received. Uh right in about the middle of the chart is um the town portion. And so this is where um uh last year uh 60% of the budget was uh uh contributed
076by the town. Uh this year it's around 61%. So next year uh we're propo the proposal uh we currently have is 63% of the budget being supported by uh by town >> but we haven't brought some of the adjusted and getting getting some of your ideas all along the way will help to do that >> right >> Kathy did that answer your question >> it it answered the question but I have another question when you're when it's convenient Uh why don't you just continue on? >> Okay. I mentioned this last year and I'll mention it again. It may not be what the board wants to do, but from my perspective, uh the total amount that we expend on the budget as it was proposed initially by the superintendent, I'm going to go with that though
077I understand there going to be adjustments was just over 83 million. I would like to see a pie chart that showed that 83 million in there. And once we put in that 80 once we have the the full budget there and we have a slice of pie that is all the grants, we will see that the town tax share is lower. And I think it's only fair if we're going to talk about what our actual expenditures are going to be. At some place, we should be demonstrating with a with a visual what the total package is. There'll be a part that'll be town, there'll be part that'll be state, there'll partly be federal, miscellaneous, and grants. And that will demonstrate I hope to the public clearly communicate that we are really try very hard I
078don't want to say we're successful we try very hard to be good stewards of the of of our school and of the impact on our town. >> So Matthew if I understand you correctly you're saying the missing part of the pie is the additional grants that come directly to the district that have been competitive and categorical. You understand me correctly because from my perspective that is part of what what Susan and her team administer. They administer the entire package. And that's I think >> I I think it's fair that that that piece should be a part of the story that we're telling the town and they will see the dollars will still be the the higher dollars but it it will it will shrink. I can't I didn't do the math, but it will shrink
079that 63% to below below 60%. I can't give you an exact number that that doesn't alter at all the tax burden the amount of dollars that we're going to have to raise. I'm not trying to say we're going to play a shell game, but it will give the public a sense of how active our administration and board is in seeking funds to give the proper education to our kids at a minimum cost to taxpayers. >> Thank you. I love that idea. That's actually, Matthew, that's actually a really good idea. >> So, would that just be a different shade of gray? >> Yeah, we have. >> No, make it a different color. Make it green. Make it green. It's it's it's not >> I like green. >> It would increase the total pie uh and then
080break out more >> because it will reflect what we have on this chart with the 89 million versus the 83. And so we would include that as another revenue that comes directly to Graten Public Schools to pay for >> all of that PD and other things that we do. >> Now the administration will decide there are two ways to do it that I can perceive. One is just to change the presentation from to what I suggested, but that'll be a departure from a previous year. >> So perhaps perhaps we want to put in two pies and say here's the way we would have presented it if it were last year, but you know, we've raised X million from grants and so here's here's what we think the true picture is. So you guys determine how
081you want to do it. So we are done with this portion of our budget. We have heard from su um superintendent Austin and her staff about the budget that she is proposing and why. And my understanding is is that on the 13th um Susan and her staff are going to come back um with the um adjusted budget. >> The adjusted budget. But I want to get it to you as soon as I can within the next couple days. I want you to see it. And any questions that you have when you see it that we haven't contemplated, I'm going to go through this book. we've been going through this book and everything that you've commented on like FTEES and looking at all aspects of the budget. Um we are really working hard to try to
082figure that out. So certainly give me feedback if you'd like. Um but we are going to meet and that whole time is going to be dedicated to the adjusted budget and other things that you might forecast. Um Jay, did you have your hand up? Yes. Um, as much as I like Matthew's idea uh of showing the the total revenues and expenses, the the fact of the matter still remains that the 4.98% budget increase is amplified by the fact that the federal and uh state um contributions uh or revenue sources uh stayed pretty much flat. uh which is why it it amplifies to a cost to the the graten taxpayer of over 8%. So as much as it's nice to show that we're we're getting um grants um the burden to the taxpayer uh the groten
083taxpayer at the at the real estate tax level uh is higher than the 4.9%. 4.98. So, um, I'm all for showing all the revenues, but it it still doesn't change the math. >> Jay is of course absolutely correct, but it'll still give a fuller picture to our our community, but Jay's absolutely right. Rita, >> I was just hoping that um next week or when this um revised budget comes to the board that you could also list if if we did have to make some reductions the board, what possibly what areas we could possibly usually we get a list of what possibly might have to >> be reduced and you know you sort of rate it in terms of you know we don't want to really reduce anything but if we had too where what would
084be those areas? >> So, you took the words right out of my mouth and but can I um add can I add to your question? >> Sure. >> In the years past, we actually had the superintendent kind of gave us what a what a reduction in her budget would look like and what she would what we would have to lose. Um, and I don't know, is that something that the board would like um, that to have happen? Um, because in the years past, we've had to look at the potential of a zero um, percent increase. I don't I did not get a sense from the town council or the RTM that that's what they are going to require from us this year. Um, but >> they said anything behind the >> go to a 0%
085budget like I I just think that that would also be um probably not plausible, but I mean so I guess my question is do we want her to do that and her staff and what what are the percentages? Am I making sense? What are the percentages that we would want to have? And I think that's something do we, you know, does a board want to see a 2% increase or a 3% increase? What what would those different scenarios look like? >> Thank you for like being much more eloquent. So >> I just used to get before nearly 5%. >> So maybe so remember three uh a two three four >> a 2% raise a 4%. Okay. >> I mean, especially if you if this translates to more. I was wondering, Jay, if it was a
0862% increase, what does that mean for the taxpayers in GR? Is that like 5%. >> J, >> I don't have that off the top of my head, but I can I can send uh an email after this meeting. >> That's how it's calculated. I just couldn't understand, you know, how that was calculated. you know, if we went up almost 5% but yet that's 8% to the taxpayers, that's 3% more. So, I was just >> But there's one other there's one other factor, Rita, and that is the the growth or decline of the grand list. >> That's it. >> Uh and and we will be having we will be having some more apartment complexes coming on. They will be finishing the or moving ahead on getting a higher valuation on the EB building. So, you know,
087we've got a number of moving parts there. And I think we can count on some increase in the grand list. How much? Only God knows and she's not telling today. >> Um, and and I also think that that's what councelor McBride was talking about in terms of the grand list, right? >> Um, I it was really hard to understand him, but I think that that's what he was talking about. Um, but yeah, so that feels um, so when Susan gets to it, I I've taken my notes. I'm sure everyone else has taken, you know, their their own notes. Like if it doesn't get covered, can you make sure that that goes to Susan so that we all can kind of see that as well? Um so that we can have an enriched conversation. I call
088me silly, but I would well you wouldn't guys would not be the first people that would call me silly. Um, I would actually, if we had a really good result on the 13th, um, and really talked about it and kind of came to consensus, um, I would love for the 22nd to actually be when we voted on the budget so that it gives the staff a week to do a turnaround to make sure that they got the budget to the town council. Like, I just I'm still worried about the the 227 to have the have the vote, but if we're not ready, we're not ready. Like I I get that, but don't um I might just in case because we have those two days the school is off on the 20th and the 21st or
089the 20th. Um I I might have us have a special to vote on the budget meeting. Um that can absolutely be cancelled, but we just can't add it because it would be a special. So don't don't be surprised. I mean, don't be like alarmed like I'm not listening to people if that happens. Does that make sense? >> No. What What What date were you thinking about adding? >> I'm I'm talking about the 22nd, which in on our list does not have it that we would be voting. Um it's just so instead of waiting until the 27th if we're ready to vote. I think I would prefer to do it on the 22nd because it gives enough time to get it to the town. But if we're not ready, we're not ready. But I can't add
090a meeting within 24 hours. So, it's easier to cancel a meeting than we can't add a meeting. So, that so that's that's what I'm just telling you. >> You want another meeting after the 22nd on the schedule? >> Um, it would be like a five minute, 10 minute just to to vote on the budget. Matthew, >> uh, is somebody has has somebody gotten back to to Councilman McBride or will somebody get back to Councilman McBride? >> We just did the minutes. It took it took quite a bit. Joan's minutes were then reviewed and we were listening to it to make sure we captured it. So, um, we will be getting back to him. >> Wonderful. Thank you. Well, I I'm I just thought I'd let you know I probably won't be at the meeting next
091week. I'll be away, but I'll be here for the 22nd. >> So, could you please make sure that once you get the budget, if you have any questions to to send them and and also feel free to send them on to me because I would be more than happy to read them in your in your behalf. >> Thank you. Um Jay, >> the other thing I'm wondering if Ken could could gather for us is uh the analysis of the um insurance reserve. Um I know last year we decided not to touch it because we were unsure how the pandemic would affect it. However, um you know, we we need to be good stewards of the taxpayers's money with regard to how much really needs to be in that reserve. And um I'd be curious to
092know how much of the money that's in the reserve is actually attributable to accounting periods that have already closed. Uh meaning that we are over reserving. Um once we close out a year and all the claims are paid, um there's really no need to continue to to maintain that level. Now, I certainly don't want to get to the point uh that we got to years ago where the reserve went to zero. Uh but if there is uh an overage um you know, it really should be uh applied to uh the current year's budget or potentially uh attributed to OPED um you know, one or the other. But I think we need to know, you know, what is really a reasonable amount and I'm talking about the reserve over and above the corridor, >> right? Okay.
093>> Thank you. And and Ken, you will get us the um the co-pays and the insurance information for the central office also. >> Yep. So, Ken and Susan and your staffs, thank you so much for um being so diligent in getting and having us walk through the budget. I really appreciate that, Ken. Um about how hard and going to all the town meetings and facing all those questions. So, I really appreciate that. And also, I just wanted to say thank you to the board. Um I thought it was a productive meeting on Wednesday with the town council, the RTM. Um and I'm proud of the work that we do and I'm proud of how we represent our district. So, um, thank you very much and I will now entertain an adjournment. >> Motion to adjourn.
094>> Thanks, Kim. >> You want to say >> Oh, and um, next week on the 13th, Rita, you're not going to be here, but please try to come at 5. We're going to have an art gallery and as always a lovely snack and and some food. >> I wish I wasn't, you know, I'm gonna try to get in for the meeting, but I don't know if I'll have internet. So, we'll see. >> All right. >> Thank you. >> I did I did a back of the of the envelope calculation. Were we to cut $100,000 out of the budget, I divided that by the $52 million that we'd be raising from taxpayers and it would be a 1.9% decrease. >> Well, I think it's much more complicated than that, but thank you, M. >> Okay. Sorry.
095Sorry. Um um our motion for adjournment was second by Liz. All those in favor, please say I. I. >> Oppose. >> Abstain. Motion has carried. Thank you guys. Thank you. >> Have a great night, everybody.