MGSD School Board Meeting: June 9th, 2025

001Before we get started, Jack, would you mind leading us in prayer? Yeah. If you care to join with us before we start our public meeting and word of prayer. Father God, we just once again thank you for this time that we could come together as a school corporation and conduct a business. We just pray that you would be with all our students and faculty and administrators through the summer that they might have a safe and restful time. We just uh lift up our men and women in the military and those who are first responders. And especially right now, we pray for all the unrest that we are seeing in our country. And Father, we just pray that you might help us to focus on those things that that are most important. Uh we just lift

002up those who have lost loved ones here and recently and just pray that you might undergard them with your strength and with your love. Conduct our thoughts and actions tonight that everything that we say and do might bring glory to you. And we ask this in Jesus name. Amen. 6:31 our time if you can pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right, we're going to do the highlights of the facility study. Yeah. So, tonight we have uh our friends from Schmidt Associates here to kind of fill us in on what they've done so far on the facility study and kind of what's left to be done. And I

003think they've got some uh input they want from the board also at at least one point. So, thank you very much for coming and I'll turn it over to you. Okay, Shel, you'll help help us change. Awesome. Thank you. So, Trinity Brace here. I'm Kyle Miller and Marie Burrell. I think you met met us all when we when we presented to you a couple times. So, it's good to be back. Uh Trinity is handing out an update. This is just an update. It's a progress step along the way. We want to go through and just share with you what we've done. We want to get a little bit of your input input tonight from the board and try to keep this brief. Uh we'll be back obviously next month and probably the next month and

004and to wrap this thing up. So, um, moving along, just really the agenda tonight is just talk about what we've done. We we've been out here several times. We've had a lot of folks out here. Uh, we want to talk about our core group in input. We did put a core group together and we want to get an exercise from you. We want to want to take some notes on some of your goals and and we we heard some of that. We met with you a couple times, but we just want to after you've heard the core group's input, maybe you've got some other thoughts. Talk about the group input sessions. We've been out here meeting with a lot of staff and we want to make sure that you're seeing some of the highlights of

005that. what's coming up next and then any questions and discussions but certainly chime in as we go through it if you have any questions we can we can update you as we go. So what we've done so far uh we've collected drawings uh created digital versions we we take those back get them copied u and so you can have anything that's in on paper on disk we can have it too I think we've returned those already uh we've collected demographic information that's all going to be studied as we start to put together the programming information uh staff input se sessions with and is going to get into the detail a little bit on this here in a minute we've met with the elementary middle high school separately we've met with the transportation and maintenance staff

006central administration staff so that we want to make sure we're hearing from from everybody that uh that has a voice here. Um we've been on site to do our full team conditional assessment. Um and that is mechanical, electrical, plumbing, all the things back of house, architectural site. We're pulling that all into into our database right now. So we don't have a whole lot update on that other than the team is inputting that now. So we've already made spent oh probably a good week, week and a half out here with the team uh doing that work. And then we're setting up the scope document which is where this the assessment goes into. That's our digital database where all the information goes in and we start to uh pull out what becomes of it. So, that's what

007we've been up to. Uh the core group, uh this is the core group. I'll let you read it. I apologize to Andrew because I didn't have his titled last minute and then I sent it through. So, Andrew, pick whatever you want to do around here. Okay, we'll we'll plug it in. So, but we did meet with the with the core group uh once. Uh we had to cancel a meeting last week or two weeks ago, but we're going to get another one to go real soon so that we're getting their input, sharing with them, then we can come back to the board. Uh this is the um this is our team that um was is on the core group as well. So the core group input uh what you're seeing in your handout is this

008area is this layout. We have the uh hand notes that we did from from all of our sessions uh taped in there, pasted in there so you can see those. We did take this I've kind of you know we rearranged it a little bit and we're going to next time you see it it'll be more into categories. This is just kind of a you know a dump of the information but really we put it into different categories like five different categories. First of all strategic planning and decision-m we heard a lot about a road map. I think you also mentioned a road map a document at the end that drives decision making. Uh look at renovations versus rebuild. When do you make that decision? Uh road map needs uh buyin from the staff and community.

009And we put it into immediate and future maintenance and infrastructure needs. Obviously those things that we saw when we were out here walking around. What do we see? things that a lot of you know but maybe there's some behind the scenes things that you don't know. Uh HBAC HVAC needs always come up in these assessments. What are those details? Uh paints, aesthetics, finishes came up as an item uh quite a bit. Um several classrooms or dungeons. I think that was more at the high school. Um no windows, poor ventilation. Um issues with the lobby in the athletic entry area, a little dated, that whole thing. Upgrades needed, dated space. uh vision, growth, and educational programming. Uh this is, you know, how how you grow as as a as a district, not just, you know, with

010your facilities, but with your programming. Uh forgetting about cost, what is the dream? What can we be? Uh take on more CTE programs. We heard that many students go to, you know, Wayne Township for the uh area 31 program. Uh do we bring fifth grade to the middle school? Big question. A lot of a lot of districts are facing that either they're going to the middle school or away from the middle school. Those sorts of things. uh students, staff and community experience and pride. Uh building that attracts and retains students and staff proud of facilities. Improve students, staff and community safety, traffic drop off, we heard that a lot. Doors, entrances, zoning, uh take pride in hosting IHSAA events. So, those are the items are up here just a little bit more organized into kind

011of some categories. This is um and then so we want to get your input now. That's the next you heard it. Uh we'll take maybe a I know we don't have a lot of time but a few minutes here if the board wants to give us uh kind of your top five items that you want to see out of this. Maybe it's beyond what you just heard. Um or you can echo what you just heard. We'll take some some notes here. I mean I think for me it it's some of those same things probably I'd say it a little bit differently. Like I think the priority list and the strategic vision and kind of putting that whole piece together is a big missing piece for us. I've said a lot like every time we choose

012something we're not choosing something else and I think as a board we don't know what that is right so I mean we got a certain amount of funds we need to be able to allocate you know based on what we think the highest priority is so I think that's the number one for me and then the thing that really you know kind of keeps me up is the growth and you know how do we manage that and manage the student populations I mean we've got an elementary school that's you know seems to be busting at the seams and and you know I think we really need to kind of figure out a plan long term and short term and I they may be different right for that. Um, so I think those are the kind

013of things that I'm thinking of pretty consistently. Yeah, I agree. I think you touched on it too. It's like like we had tal discussed before kind of a living document that kind of grows as as we do those priority lists and as they get completed, you can add things even if like Tom said growth comes into play like easily being able to be moved around. probably for me it's more of a third party vision or you know out from outside looking in on our existing facilities where we're at what we have uh what we what we can make the best out of what we have and then from a facility standpoint moving forward just a game plan of what to do any thoughts I'd say mine's you know staff's important for me because I'm not

014in the building and I don't know what's going on and you know they know they're in it every day so that's on here though. So we agree that's why we get their input. It's been it's very helpful. I I think the triggers too like I always kind of struggle with that is like what's the trigger to do this next step right? I mean at what point is the breaking point? We don't want to get to the breaking point. You have to make that decision two years before you're at the breaking point to you know if you have to build something you can't do it next week. Right. Exactly. And then kind of matching that up with the the finances and you know, we're always pretty sensitive to the tax rates here. And you know, I

015think that game is going to be a little tougher with some of the budget stuff coming out of the state and so you know, how all that fits in as well is kind of where my head and then programming, but I think that maybe it's a little out of scope here, right? So and obviously we're in the business of educating, so that's got to be tough. Yeah, it's tied together. It's tied together. And certainly as Anna Marie's working through a program space program, she's considering what are the programs that are happening, what are the ones that you need more space for and and what are what's coming up next so we can plan for it. Those sorts of things. And I think you said it too, but you know, things that make us attractive attractive

016to students, attractive to staff. And I'm sure you think of this, but you know, space that's flexible that's conducive to the way kids learn now. I mean, I don't know what that is. I don't know what that looks like, but I'm sure it's different than what it was when I was here in the dungeon. There's no question. And that's certainly one thing we hear a lot when we do assessments today, especially if they haven't done a lot of projects recently. Um, flexible, small breakout space. They just didn't used, they didn't build those things back in the day. So, you're not the only one, but we heard that from staff quite a bit. This is really good. Really good feedback. Is there anything else that you want to share with us tonight? I mean, I think

017there's always needs versus wants. I I'd like to see the wants on there as well, right? I mean, people want a fieldhouse, but you know, when you're facing with classroom space shortages, I mean, I'm not sure that's the top priority, right? Right. So, I think things like that, too. Just make sure we we get the wants on there. Okay. We want to share with you what the staff said. So, we did have that included here in the presentation. We went to all of the different facilities. Like Kyle said, we spent a couple days here and uh we were gathering input and what we were looking for is big picture input. We were looking for uh things that rose up to the top and that were consistently said by the staff. So we gathered this input

018um a couple of different ways. If you go to the next slide, we first had um everyone uh when they came into their group session. So let's say we're at the elementary, right? We had them take some time here and fill out an individual form and we asked them who are you? What do you do? What are the where is the space that you utilize and what works well in that space for you right now? And what would you see um could you benefit from that the space could be different um educationally, spacewise uh and even facility conditionwise. And so we let them take some time each um on their own and kind of think that through. And then we pulled everyone into groups. And so, uh, depending on the size of the group that

019we had together for each of the schools in each one of those facilities, it ranged from having two to three groups up to having about 10 groups at one of them, the high school in particular, because it's a bigger staff, right? Because we had all of the staff there with us. We asked them to work at a table and te and work together and come to consensus of what are the five most important things that you want to make sure we are hearing as we are getting ready to go and walk through your facilities because the steps right after that were and what has happened is our engineers and architects and interior designers walked the building and we wanted to know about is it where the ceiling tiles are uh potentially damaged or where there

020might be uh outlets that weren't working. And so um they came to consensus and then we had them feed that back to the group. So if you go to the next one uh this is us feeding back the information that we got that rose up to the top that at the elementary the group came to consensus as these are the most important things that we want to make sure that you hear. When they fed back to us there's the flip chart. We wanted you to see it exactly how it was. Architects can't spell. So sorry if you see misspellings on here. It was us really quick trying to go through and and take those notes. But as each group fed back to us, there's an asterisk next to it. If that is something that more

021than one of those groups said, then we started to, like Kyle said, this list right here of the different things that we heard from them, we started to categorize. So you we heard here at the elementary we heard about the HBAC. We heard about um how it feels different in different rooms. We heard about the finishes um throughout the facility and we heard the need for maybe more electrical outlets. And we also heard something that we never would have seen acoustics between rooms. So something that um is is troublesome to them. We then when we look at things like the educational program in growth, we heard that there's spaces that they need more of like small groupoup pullout resource student services type of spaces areas for special ed. Uh you know, can we look at

022while we're programming what would it mean to maybe have a space like a maker space and uh look at spaces like the cafeteria? the cafeteria is used um c lunchtime is really long because of the size of it and trying to get all the kids through and so wanting to have a space where maybe there's not so much time spent um in in the cafeteria at the same time finding areas where they can get the whole staff together, large group instruction areas, restrooms, restrooms comes up everywhere and restrooms came up throughout all of our um all of our different uh input sessions that we had. especially here it was a lot about congestant congestion um and getting the kids in the amount of uh restrooms that there are for getting the amount of students through

023in between classes. Um then there were thoughts of hey can you look at what happens if there was a separate building for prek prek 2 uh what would that look like? But at the same time as you're looking at all this it's we like the fact that we have the grade levels grouped together as they're going through. Uh and then we start to look at things about the experience and the community experience for students. Um looking at uh the interior and the exterior circulation um the circulation patterns on the inside of the building, the circulation patterns on the outside of the building. And then there was also the comment of can you look at where there's weather safe uh zones within the facility. So it's just of the highlights here for the elementary. We go

024to the next one at the middle school. We started again. Uh if you go to the next slide, here it is. Then the clip chart form here you have your list form and then as we start to categorize it into infrastructure needs it's um there conversation the things that rose to the top were things about finishes again uh looking at the roof um looking at air quality air circulation throughout and acoust acoustics uh restrooms again and some of the fixtures the plumbing uh safety as far as doors and security the consistency of that uh outlets and then as we looked at the vision and educational programming looking at um more breakout type spaces and flexibility. A larger um classrooms uh the furniture within could it be more flexible? Uh they talk about uh the cafeteria

025and how it's shared with the high school and that's and what that does to them as far as programming wise and schedule-wise. uh the conversation about the gymnasium really um the amount of gymnasium space that there is is there the conflict between high school and middle school and being able to program not only during the day but also athletics um at night time and talk about the corridors and the interior circulation narrower hallways and that kind of congestion area between the high school and the middle school um connection and then talk about parking staff parking uh and and um parking throughout uh looked at experience and uh the feeling that you get in staff and community pride exterior. Can we look at the overall exterior, the welcomingness of it, the appearance of it? Uh look

026at uh potential media center upgrades and then also um um even things as far as the circulation and walking paths throughout the campus. You go to the high school again. Here it is. And you have that in your packet and here it is in a list form. you look at the overall infrastructure needs against the again the HVAC uh looking at things like the um flooring uh here in particular looking at the second floor and areas where they were showing us that the infrastructure maybe there are some areas um where uh there are um infiltration of elements into the building um areas in the floor uh that might need some structural help. uh restrooms again uh looking at the um safety and security of the locking and the doors of uh throughout uh the envelope

027and of the building uh and electrical outlets. Do you look at educational programming looking at the labs the science um looking at those configurations of those spaces? Uh are there spaces out outside that be that could become educational spaces? uh there's a lack of large group instruction type of space. Look at the auditorium and how is that utilized? Could that space be utilized um differently that's around some of that support space and always looking at classroom storage and then again at the looking at student and staff community experience and pride. Uh lack of equity for girls in the locker rooms. Look at the locker rooms. Look at the furniture and the flexibility um uh that uh for both teachers and for the students. um look at the athletic fields and ox gym um upgrades or

028synthetic tur turf uh and really um taking care of what we have the pride of place uh exterior circulation again and um even down to protection from the elements maybe with the awning for any kind of drop off situations. Then you go on to the bus facility and transportation group. We met with them. We got a lot of feedback looking at really the bus facility needing an overall upgrade. Uh and that uh they also talked a lot about not just what they were in because they also had that connection to the buildings. Um they wanted to make sure that we knew that you know the high school bathrooms and needed to have an upgrade. Uh looking at the overall uh programming and really the need for um more more space for uh maintenance. Uh there's

029a lot of time and a lot of maneuvering around that site where it is and the location and potentially the location of that bus facility uh where it is because of the parking of the buses, the circulation of the buses and the traffic patterns around. They talked about how many buses that they have and how many spaces are actually here on the site especially not only for the um actual buses for but for the drivers. Um, and then they talked about, you know, some things that we could look at as far as circulation around as we looked at solutions and things at the elementary. Uh, potentially putting drives around the elementary and some came up about every traffic and circulation and that. So, yeah. U safety and security was very important. Um, looking at the

030um the adjacency of where the transportation director is, is there a way to have that closer in within the bus um facility? Uh and really again it's the overall location of the facility and the traffic patterns around it were some of the things that were highlights and these were the things that they were saying that they were that rose to the top that we're going to take into consideration and use in in our study. maintenance group. Again, they were able to come um give us uh a lot more information as our engineers went out on the things that we needed to be looking at as far as the HVAC um and the safety the security alarm system uh controls um and the roof roof etc. uh which our team started to look at. And then

031as far as um the educational program, uh they talked about uh the things that they saw as a maintenance team um with the uh middle school and the high school sharing the cafeteria space and the timing that it took and the timing it took to clean in between etc. in the um also how that space is used after school. And they talked a lot about storage. um they have um a very condensed storage space for their own maintenance area. But they also um know that that just boils right back down to the amount of storage that the teachers have in their rooms and then the amount of storage is actually available for things that are um you know surplus that you have that you have to have on hand like extra furniture etc. And so

032those were some of the things that rose to the top there. And then as we top it out at the the end with the central office and administration group really uh they um came and looped all the way around and um uh had a lot of consistencies with absolutely everything that we heard um from the very beginning from that core group meeting talking about the need for the overall road map. Making sure there's transparency to the community um as we're working through what that might be. uh messaging to the community, making sure that we take care of what we have right now in our buildings, especially what is seen restrooms again came up. Uh visioning for the for growth. Uh potential for uh definitely the outdated classrooms and storage. Um finding ways to attract students.

033Uh and then the overall circulation throughout exterior circulation. Again, uh the flow when you're here, when you come into the administration building when you need to go to the restroom, right? it's not really adjacent. So what is that flow through the building when you come in for administrative purposes as opposed to other type of purposes? The outside appeal, first impression, branding, pride of place, celebrate who we are, um graphics, pull it all together, imaging to the community. So that's a that is a really quick summary of a lot of information. I've got a stack of paper this big that that was all taken from to give you a little bit of insight of what we've heard. Absolutely. Okay. So, just what's coming up next to kind of sum things up, what we're working on. Again,

034we've we've been out here for the conditional assessment. Our MEP team was out here for three days about four weeks ago, something like that. Our architectural interior site team was out a couple weeks ago for two or three days. So, taking all those scores when we talked about a score from zero to four and what the condition is, doing all that, starting to put that into our system. Uh, space programming review, Anamarie is starting to do that now. We're we're putting inputting the drawings that we got so we know square footages, we know where space is. When we were out here doing our our walkth through, we identified what every room was was used for, even though the sign may not be the same as what it is. We need to know that. Uh so

035programming that's in the works right now. Uh and we're doing an energy audit for the with Mariah gave us all their electrical costs. So we're going to see how much it costs to run this building and see how that compares to what maybe it should. We do have some kind of, you know, industry standards of where you might want to be. And if it's not where it should be, we want to we want to know why. Uh put it all together in a final manual and costs for future potential projects. Obviously, we've got more input sessions before we get there. Um we'll have additional core and and school board meetings. We anticipate about four months. I think that's going to put us about August uh to wrap things up. So, that's where we are. Um

036and we'll just keep working on it. So, a lot of information I know. Any questions? I I guess I I have two questions early. Sure. You said you brought in the demographic study. Is that a study that we had done recently or do you do a different study? I think we No, we don't do that but we got your latest cuz it's pretty current I think. Okay. Got the current one and then like you said something about the upstairs classrooms and the high school and I know there was something mentioned here. We've got an item on the agenda tonight regarding high school classrooms. I guess I just want to see if if they're related. I'd hate to have something completely different from the feedback there and then we deal with the carpet tonight. Right. So

037is that I think do you have more information on what that is? Uh, well, I would say that we will pull in whatever it is information you have tonight. If you are starting to do something with carpet for the upstairs classrooms because that's needed right now, we'll make sure that we're pulling that in. But it was more about the spaces that are up there. Are they the right spaces that are up there uh and making that's part of the space planning as we get into that? Uh, and making sure that they are um equipped for uh the needs of the students today. So, science labs etc., right? Making Those are science labs and I'm not sure what the agenda is tonight. It's it's the carpet. It's carpet. Make sure we're not spending a bunch of

038money. I think those rooms are just in need, right? And Mr. Springer brought that up and he really emphasized the second floor rooms. I I guess my concern would be, you know, we spent $60,000 on carpet and then you come back and say we're going to knock out these walls. You got to rip the carpet up, right? I wouldn't want to do that, right? So, I just want to make sure that's congruent, I guess. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next item is public comments. And we had nobody sign up. So we'll go on to consideration consideration of the minutes from the meeting on May 12th, 2025. Move to approve. Mr. Elliott. Do I have a second? I'll second. Mr. Sears. There's any further discussion on that. All those in favor say I.

039I. All oppose. The motion passes 5-0. Uh number five, consideration of the claims. Uh as far as claims, uh pretty pretty standard. One thing we did um that's on there to be paid for tonight is we continue to pay energy harness as they kind of complete some projects. Um what we're paying for this time is kind of some of those just little finishing touches on um indoor and a few outdoor things. So it's not a an amount that you would normally see from them that's closer to like 100,000 or something like that. It's smaller because it's it's smaller stuff they're touching base on. Um they're actually coming tomorrow and we're going to do a walk through to make see where they're at so far um and see what's left to be done. They haven't touched

040the athletic fields yet. That's going to come this summer obviously, but uh they're moving they're moving along. So other than that, claims are pretty standard. I'll move to approve the claims and the payroll claims from 59 and 523. Mr. Kennedy, do I have a second? I'll second. Mr. Blendell, any further discussion on the claims and the payroll? All those in favor say I. I. All oppose. That motion passes five to zero. Item number six, uh, personnel recommendation. Cert certified first. Uh, just a couple quick comments there for you. Um, you'll notice that all the, uh, admin contracts are on there. I'm recommending that all admin contracts be renewed for two years. Um, their contracts is actually ending June 30. So, I'm recommending those be renewed for two years and they be placed on the um

041new pay scale that we adopted last month. Um you're going to notice Corey Shields has asked to go part-time. I want to mention that because I want you to understand that uh that will work just fine. We're not going to lose any services in our MLL program. She's told us that she can do that and still meet all of the the services that the kids were getting. So, want to make sure that that was that was understood. Um, also want to discuss that you'll see on there that we're making a recommendation for hiring an athletic director tonight. Uh, it's John Regacius. Um, he currently teaches in Wayne Township, but he has been in AD for quite a long time in uh, Danville and Brownsburg both. So, I think we're getting a very good candidate there

042in him. And you said we had 23 candidates for that or something like that. Yeah, they had 23 people apply. Um they interviewed seven first, narrowed it down to two, had two very good candidates that um frankly had a very hard time choosing between the two and kind of ended up kind of in some ways splitting hairs to to figure out who was who was better. So yeah, we had a very good pool um very good committee that that interviewed all those all those candidates. So yeah, move to approve the certified. Mr. Elliott, do I have a second? I'll second. Mr. Kennedy, any further discussion on the certified? So just on the the going to the part-time status for the multilingual, I mean, we're sure that's going to work. Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, absolutely.

043And then it says it's three days per week. So is she working three full days a week would be more than half the time. I mean, I'm just Is it hourly or is it cutting her salary in half? What are we doing here? So, she's on a um teaching contract, so she'll just get paid for the days she teaches. Okay. And is it would we ever hire a athletic director and he'd be a coach, too? I heard there was other people like that were coaches that wanted to be that, you know, but I was then asked like, "Would you still coach?" You know, that would even be that'd be kind of It's possible. It's been done. I didn't know if it was Yeah, it's u I've seen it work. I've seen it not work, right?

044We've said no. We're not going to get in trouble. I did everything right. Yeah. Very good question. Yeah. I just I was getting asked that. I was like, I don't know if that would even work, you know? So, It's it's hit or miss sometimes whether that works or not. Like you said, Tom, sometimes the board is like we want somebody to concentrate on athletic director and the last two times we definitely shied away from that. So we don't want that. So I mean you end up with a position where they're reporting to themselves, right? Yeah. That's why which is not good. I don't want to lose a good coach either. Absolutely. All those in favor of the approving the certified say I. I. All oppose. The motion passes five to zero. onto the classified. Yes.

045Two quick comments there. Uh I want to say thank you to Jonah Freeman there in the back for he's he's resigning as uh Mr. James IIA because he's going to go and needs to take some face-toface college courses. So sadly lose him. However, Owen Dwise who's also back there is going to with your um you know permission tonight is going to take that role. So, I think we've filled that position once you uh approve that with a very uh talented person also. So, do I have a motion to approve? I'll move to approve. Mr. Kennedy, do I have a second? I'll second. Any further discussion on the classified? All those in favor say I. I. I. I. All oppose. A motion passes five to zero. Getting behind here. Number C, ECA. Uh, don't really have

046anything for you on the comments about ECA. I'll move to approve. Second, Mr. Elliot. Any further discussion on the ECAS? All those in favor say I. I. I. Pro. All oppose. Motion passes five to zero. But I think at this time we will temporarily suspend this meeting. All right. So we will suspend it at 7:02 and then we will open the uh the bond hearing. Yes. 702. And with your permission, Mr. President, I can run this as I have in the past if that's okay with you. That'd be appreciated. Okay. No problem. Um, so yes, this is our, uh, second determination hearing on general obligation bonds. So, um, as we've done in the past, there's a script that I kind of use here to make sure we hit all the points we we need to

047hit. So, I'll just kind of read through there and and go from there. Uh, the next item on the agenda is for the board to hold a uh, project and preliminary hearing on the proposed project. If you're interested in speaking at this hearing, please make sure you have signed in the sign-in sheet. Um, which I guess no don't we really have a sign-in sheet for this part of it, but there'll be a time for you to tell us if you want to speak. If you want to speak, feel free. We'll we'll make sure you you speak. Um, there will be an opportunity for you to make uh comments about the project. Uh, at the hearing, we will ask each person to limit their comments to three minutes and that the topic be limited to the

048proposed project under consideration. Notice of this preliminary determination hearing was published as legally required. Uh Mr. Harris talked about that at the last uh determination hearing of of when that was published and where. Uh the first preliminary determination hearing was held on May 12th, 2025. Uh at this time, I'm going to discuss the uh purpose of this uh hearing. Pursuant to Indiana Code 20-26-7-37, before a school corporation may spend more than $1 million to build, repair, or alter a school building that will be financed by a lease or bonds, it must hold a public hearing at which explanations of the potential value of the project to the school corporation and community are given. Similarly, pursuant to Indiana Code 6-1.1-20-3.5, a school corporation must hold two public hearings and adopt a resolution to preliminarily determine to

049issue bonds or enter a lease for a project which has a total project cost in excess of a non-controlled project. These public hearings and the adoption of resolutions are the very beginning of the legal process. These resolutions establish the maximum financial terms for the proposed project. Um, so now I'll just talk quickly about the process and determinate in determining and communicating the project to the community and the need for the project. Um, basically I'll just say what I've said the last couple times. Uh, we've done these with me as superintendent. Uh, Monroe Greg's been doing these for about seven years now. Uh it's basically a way for us to help our operations fund um so that we can get needed renovations done. Pretty much everything we've done this year that is what I would consider

050kind of a major renovation is being taken out of bond funds that we've had. Uh we've been using the 23 and the 24 bonds to do those things. Like tonight, we're going to I'm asking them to put carpet in the upstairs of the high school. That's coming out of bond funds. Last month, we had about four or five things I asked them to do. The rebuilding of the the fire pumps, um several things, the lighting from energy harness has all been done through through bond funds. Some of those projects we try to um establish ahead of time and and we do, you know, I get with maintenance, I get with staff and I say, "What what are our biggest needs?" I talk to the board. What are our biggest needs? Like what definitely needs hit

051with the money we have? And we try to set aside, you know, that money for some of those projects. Other things are kind of like, hey, here's this emergency we had. Here's how much it's going to cost. Let's use bond funds for that. So, that's kind of the reasoning behind why we do these these geo bonds. It's basically a way for us to make sure we can keep updating our buildings to keep them uh comfortable, safe uh for for our students and staff. We bought our buses out of there as well. Yeah, we have also bought buses. Thank you for that. Yeah, we bought bought buses out of that, too. Uh let's see. Next, now we're going to hear from Stiffl Nicholas and Company Incorporated, our underwriter, about how the proposed project will be financed,

052as well as information about the effect on the typical property taxpayer. All right, good evening. Uh, Luke Brickman with Stiffel. This is the exact same presentation that we walked through last month. The only difference is that at the end at the end of this hearing there will be resolutions set forth in front of you which will be tied to the maximum legal parameters uh on the last page here. Keep in mind that these are all maximum numbers. We can always come down from them but once they are set we cannot go above them. Uh so if you go to the the first page this is a chart that you've all seen before and this is the school corporation's outstanding debt payments. You'll see from 25 to 26 there's a drop off in the annual payments

053again in 2027. For us to get a levy in place for 2026, we would need to close on a bond issue by the end of 2025. If you scroll to the next slide there, this is an overview of the school corporation's current total tax rate. In gray here is the operations fund that's going to pay the day-to-day non-educational expenses of the school corporation. In blue is the pension bond funds which were paid off in 21. And then green is the existing debt service. We're going all the way back to 2020 here just to kind of show that you guys have maintained that dollar7 total tax rate. But you'll see going from 25 to 26 and then again 27 it really mirrors what that last chart showed is that you have some debt falling off and

054you have capacity uh moving forward. So, when we look at this authorization, if you slide to the the next one here, uh this would be a total authorization of $6 million. You could split this up however you wanted to over the next couple years. We started with uh initially doing 3 million and 25. That's in purple there. And then in blue would be the additional 3 million in 2026. You could always do less than that or even issue it over multiple series. Uh but this is kind of what what we're thinking as of today. You'll see here that this is going to be able to maintain your dollar7 tax rate. Also leave some capacity in the future as as this debt's pay being paid off uh extremely quickly, but also you have the other debt

055that's falling off. So it leaves room for future capacity as and when you start looking at that facility study that that Schmidt uh put together. This kind of pairs with this as a long-term planning part of the financial and marrying that to the capital plan. So on this slide, we just have the estimated cost breakdown. Again, this would be a $6 million authorization. Right now, we're showing a $3 million off uh borrowing in 2025 and in 2026. Estimated cost of issuance of $125,000. The last couple years, it's came in much less than that. Uh but any additional dollars flow to that project fund. So even with $125,000 of cost of issuance, that leaves a project fund of 2,875 for the 25 bonds and same thing for the 26. Is there savings there if we issued

056the $6 billion in 2025? I mean, or does the cost of issuance then get a 250? You would see you would see some savings there. Yeah. Is it significant? Um, you would see some fees are are based on the total borrowing amount, some are based on the hourly work. So you would see maybe a 25% reduction if I but then you have interest on the additional money that you took right interest on it and then I think also just from a timing perspective do you need to issue all of that you're forecasting a little bit and then also with the tax rate as we've kind of talked about there's some changes that that are going on you don't have that data so you're guessing a little bit more with the farther out you go okay

057I just wonder no it's a great question and so we started with two issuances you have the capacity you could do six $1 million issuance But then that really gets to your point, Tom, of all right, we're we're paying too much to the professional fees and not getting enough bang for our buck. So, we started with two, but that's certainly a conversation that that would be worth having as as you get continue to move forward. On the last slide here, these are the maximum legal parameters. Again, these will be in the resolutions tonight. Um top three are based on on the chart that was just previously shown. A borrowing amount of 6 million total professional fees of 250,000 leaving 5,750,000 for hard and soft project costs. Estimated interest rate range of 3 to 6%. Again,

058this is the beginning of the legal process over a potential two plus year borrowing timeline. If you sold bonds today, you're probably at a 4% give or take. Um maximum term of the bonds of eight years. Again, we plan on repaying that a little bit shorter. Estimated total interest cost there are 480,000. Um the maximum annual payment maximum that you can make on the total $6 million authorization any given year is $4,250,000. Uh so that was kind of the 2027 year. If you think back to that chart, if you simply divide the max annual payment by the school corporation's net assess value, you get max tax rate impact of just over 61 cents. that does not account for any of your prior debt retiring. When you factor that in, that's a net increase of zero

059cents, just like we showed on on those prior charts. And again, similar to what we've done over the last couple years here at Monroe, Greg, you'll see a couple other ratios down here. Uh these will be in your resolutions as well. Max annual payments as a percentage of your net assessed value. Again, that's just your max payments annually divide by your net assessed value of 7613. The direct and overlapping debt is simply looking at all of the other municipalities property tax back debt as a percentage of your net assessed value. So looking at the library, town, county, everyone, and the schools divided by yours for a 4.82%. Uh so you'll see those numbers in the res in the um in the resolutions tonight. That's all that I have. I'm happy to answer any questions that

060the border administration has. What's the 4.82%? Can you just go through that again real quick? Yeah. Yeah. So if you if you look at all the property tax debt by all of the municipalities that a minogre school taxpayer would pay. So looking at the library, the county, the town, if there's township, uh and the school corporation, all of their outstanding property tax back debt divided by your net assessed value. So what's that really tell me? Like what's nothing but like nothing but required in state statute. So I figured you would see these in here and they're not very straightforward. So that's why I walk through it. It's not a a super helpful tool for me measurement. Okay. Well, that's what I was trying to hear. Yeah. To be blunt. I appreciate it. Yeah. Any other

061questions? Thank you. Thanks, Luke. Uh, now it is time to open the public hearing. Remember, uh, if you would like to speak, we're just going to I'll ask you in a sec. If everybody wants to speak, let me know. If you do want to speak, just walk up to the podium, please. Um, as I mentioned earlier earlier, we ask that you state your name and address, limit your comments to the proposed project and financing. Keep any comments to three minutes. Um, so at this time, is there anybody that wants to speak about the geo bonds in in this hearing? Okay, seeing none, see what we're doing next here. We are ready to start talking about the actual project resolutions. We have uh I think three or four of them. Um Steve, did you want to

062start talking about those? Uh Kristen Mlen from Ice Miller, our bond council, prefers that we uh have separate motions on each of the resolutions. The first one is marked as exhibit A in your packet. It's called a project uh resolution. Uh this is required when the school is planning to spend more than a million dollars per building. It contains the estimated hard and soft construction cost and the cost of issuance and establishes the total project cost. It also contains the estimated tax impact. So, we need uh a motion and a resolution to adopt exhibit A. I move to approve the project resolution exhibit A. Mr. Elliot, is there a second? Second. Mr. Sears. Do we have any discussion on that? All those in favor say I. I. I. All oppose. Motion passes five to zero.

063The next resolution in your packet is called the preliminary determination resolution. This is required when a school is planning to finance more than a certain amount for a given facility. It contains the project total project cost, the maximum annual payment and lease term and other financial terms such as the estimated principal amount and tax impact. And again, we need a resolution motion on the resolution to pass this preliminary determination resolution. So, it says to adopt a preliminary determination resolution and the reimbursement resolution or is that still going to be two separate motions? It's a separate separate separate. Okay. So, this is just a preliminary determination resolution. Yes. Okay. Do I have a motion to approve that? I'll make a motion. Mr. Kennedy, do you have a second? I'll second. Mr. Blendell. Any further discussion on

064that? All those in favor say I. I. All oppose. Motion passes 5-0. And the third and final resolution is called a declaration of official intent to reimburse expenditures and this is related to the financing of the construction project. This resolution permits the school corporation to reimburse itself from bond proceeds for any cash which it might spend on the project prior to the closing of the bonds. It's required by federal tax law in order to preserve the school corporation's ability to reimburse itself. And again, we need a motion and to pass this resolution. I'll move to approve the reimbursement resolution. Second. Kennedy, Mr. Elliott. Any further discussion on that? All those in favor say I. I. All oppose. Motion passes five to zero. That's all the resolutions. Okay. All the resolutions I believe. Then checking my

065script here. Make a motion to close that. Probably should. Are we ready to close? Yep. I think we're good. I think we're good to close. I'll move to close the bond hearing. Mr. Kennedy, do I have a second? Second. Mr. Elliott. Any discussion on that? Closing. We will close this hearing. 7:18. Oh yeah, we got all those in favor say I. I. I. All oppose. We'll close that at 7:18 and then we will reopen a regular board meeting at 7:18. Yep. And move on to item number eight, consideration of the courses and curriculum for the high school. Yes. Um, hold on here. My paperwork. There we go. So, I'm asking you tonight to approve um some new courses and the curriculum that goes along with those courses and then approving um some books for an

066already existing set of of courses. So, the the new courses that have been outlined for you are some dual credit courses that we want to add for next year. So, pretty exciting. I want to thank uh Andrew Grismore, Mike Springer, uh the teachers that are involved. Um this has been a work in progress all year to talk with uh the teachers and and kind of getting them on board with what this entails, what the curriculum looks like and that sort of thing. Um getting, you know, talking with Mr. Springer and having him help us talk to the to the teachers also. Um so for next year, um I can just kind of read off here what we're proposing. Uh we're proposing adding dual credit English 111 um and then 215. So English 111 will be

067in the fall, 215 in the spring. Um adding bio 105. Um adding history 101 in the fall and 102 in the spring. And then also adding dual credit government which is uh polyai 101 as a fullyear course. Um Mr. Willlet is still planning on teaching dual credit music appreciation. So that's not a new one. He's he's done that. Um we don't think this next one's going to be ready for next year because this was a very this this is a new hire that and we hadn't really planned on scheduling kids because we didn't know we were able to get this hired. But for uh at the latest 26th school year, we would be able to offer dual credit communications, which is uh communications 114 and he can also teach English 131. That's the new hire

068from last month. So, um so in all, I think that is six new dual credit courses offered for next year. Then the following school year, adding at least that uh communications would put us where we're offering the minimum amount to be able to say you're offering the Indiana College CPS through IvyTech. So, we are making some great headway there. Like I said, very proud of the work Andrew's done, the teachers to come on board to do this because sometimes there's there's a PD these teachers have to do, maybe even a course they have to take here or there. So very happy that they're willing to do that to to help us. Um and then the world language department wants to is requesting new textbooks for the Spanish program. It's been a long time since they've

069adopted and it is definitely time to allow them to do that. So I'm asking that you allow them to do that. Um oh French also. Uh so Spanish and French. And I think that is it. So that's what I'm asking you to do. So moved. Are we going to combine A and B then? I would I would since they're both dealing with curriculum. I would say we could do it together. That'd be my motion. Mr. Elliott, do I have a second? I'll second. Mr. Bundell, any further discussion on that? No, I'm with you. I'm really excited about that. I mean, it's been a long time coming and I think it's something the community really wants to see more of. Yep. And if we can push that messaging, that'd be great. Yep. People need to know

070we're offering that for sure. And we're definitely not done. We're we want to add more and even possibly add some CTE courses, too, because that brings in some revenue, right? Revenue on top of giving kids options for things they want to do. So, yeah. Yeah, I think that's definitely in the right direction. Thank you. Thank you. All those in favor say I. I. All oppose. This measurements pass five to zero. Item number nine, the first read policy of the Neola updates. Yeah. So, I know there's more there than what you're used to. Um, what I can say there is there was a bit of a miscommunication. We felt that we knew the updates were there and we were trying to get in touch with our Niola rep and he thought we were up to date.

071So, it was just a, you know, quite a little bit of a miscommunication. So, um, we would have had the first one done and you would have had to do kind of multiple at one time, but we figure that, uh, we might as well just get them all done and then we'll be kind of ahead of the game. So yeah, just just uh for the for the transparency and the public, what we're doing here is um throughout the year we we belong to a a group called NEOLA and it's basically a group of lawyers um in each state that look over um state laws when it comes to education and when things change, we let the lawyers put their mark on how that language needs needs to change in board policy. So they send us

072updates. um you don't have to do everything they they have outlined for you. But if you don't, you're not going to be covered by by them and they're not going to be they're not going to, you know, cover you if if uh you do something with within board policy that you haven't adopted and they said you really need to. there are some things that you can um choose not to adopt if it doesn't um really work within your school corporation, your community, and that's separate from being, you know, covered by a uh this this group of of lawyers. So, um it's more just the the the legal aspect and the um wording of things that they definitely want you to to adopt. So, the board has in front of them has has been given this

073large packet of stuff to go through. Tonight's what's called a first reading. There's no action to be taken tonight because it takes two readings to adopt policy. So, we will come back then in July and then I'll be recommending to the board that we adopt these um changes to policy. It gives the board a chance to look through them, ask us any questions. We can go back to the, you know, our rep and ask him questions if needed and that sort of thing. So, just gives time for to work all that out. Good summer reading. Yeah. Fun stuff. Obviously, we haven't looked at this yet, but I know like there's two ways we could get those. Sometimes we get the policies and they've already kind of selected what we want and then there's also where

074we can say you select this or this, right? Do you know what we used to get the select this or this? So, we kind of knew what the options were. Do you know if this is that way or not? I have I haven't looked at it. So, and if not, can we get that still? I believe what you're going to see is um yes, there are all the check boxes are there, right, to show what you can select. So, we'll see what we picked and what we didn't pick. Correct. Okay. kind of sometimes we didn't do it that way in the last year or two. Y sometimes we do. I prefer Yeah, you're you're see you've got the ones that are all highlighted with all the check boxes. You're going to see what they're suggesting

075we check or if there's any that say, you know, check this or this. You can see what we're recommending. Yep. Okay. No, I appreciate that for sure. If not, I was going to see if there's a way to to see that at some place. Yep. Thank you. Yep. That satisfies that one. Item number 10, permission to sell and or dispose of the outdated band equipment. Yes. So, Mr. Willlet is recommending that um we dispose of or if we can possibly sell some of this outdated band equipment. He's got a list there for you that shows um what what that is um for the public. It's it's a marching drum line with carriers, sound equipment, marching baritone, xylophone, mima, baritone saxophone. um he's outlined in there that there is some areas where he might be able

076to sell it, but if he can't sell it, we're just going to disperse of it. So, I would make that recommendation to you. I'll move to approve, Mr. Kennedy. Second, Mr. Sears. Any further discussion on the band equipment? All those in favor say I. I. All oppose. Motion passes 5 to zero. Number 11, consideration of fine arts trip in the spring 2028 to Hawaii. Yeah. So, Mr. Willlet is asking that uh you allow them to take a trip to Hawaii, Aahu, and perform at Pearl Harbor. So, that'll be a very neat experience for them. And obviously, they do this much ahead of time, so they can fund raise and that sort of thing. So, I bring that to you for your consideration. Motion to approve. So moved. Mr. Elliott, do I have a second? I'll

077second. Mr. Blendell, any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. All oppose. Motion passes 5 to zero. Number 12, consideration of the flooring for the high school second floor. Yeah. So, we've been working on, you know, getting uh possible quotes and things like that for the carpeting up in the second second floor. um do feel that is needed um for several reasons. Aesthetics, sound that passes through the the uh top floor going into classrooms in the bottom floor. I think that will help dampen some of that. Um so I am recommending that we go with Marian Adams flooring um at a cost of $60,417 to carpet the upstairs classrooms. Motion to approve the carpet. I'll move to approve. Mr. Kennedy, do I have a second? Second, Mr. Sears. Any further discussion on it?

078That's just classrooms, not the hallways, right? Correct. Okay, just classrooms. All those in favor say I. I. All oppose. Motion passes five to zero. Item 13, consideration of the contract with Indiana Business Solutions. Yeah. So, you have a new contract in front of you with uh Indiana Business Solutions. Um, we've used Indiana Business Solutions for quite a few years to lease our copers and some printers. Um, we reached out, obviously, we're trying to save money wherever we can. So, we reached out to Toshiba, uh, who has a they're considered a state contractor. where they have a state contract where they can offer really good pricing to schools and businesses for Toshiba copers and printers. We reached out to them just to put together a competitive quote. They came in, looked at what we had. Um

079I've used them before at my previous district um to compare prices and we actually end up going with them to to do this. But um then we obviously let Indiana Business Solutions do the same thing. We said, "Listen, we need to save money. what can you put together for us? And both came back with some pretty competitive quotes, but in the end, Indiana Business Solutions um came back with a better one. So, they're going to save us, I think in the end was about 14,500 a month, I think, um compared to what we were paying. So, it's going to be significant amount of savings every month and then per year. So, thanks to Todd O'Neal at Indiana Business Solutions for coming and doing that and and putting together a competitive quote for us. So that's

080my recommendation. Motion to approve. A motion to approve. Mr. Blendell, do I have a second? Second. Mr. Elliott, any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. All oppose. Motion passes 5 to zero. Item 14, consideration of the district organizational chart updates. Yeah, we just bring bring this to you because there's two small changes to the organizational chart. We um changed Lesie Gilly's title to include her role now as um MLL director along with alternative ed. And then we put the health aid in there um for members of the community that that don't know what's going on there. Um we have a pretty significant amount of diabetics in our corporation, specifically at the high school and middle school. um when you have that many diabetics and then you add on to there the normal

081amount of kids that come through a clinic um it can be scary that that something could possibly be missed working with those diabetic kids that you know you're checking blood sugar and dealing with insulin and that sort of thing. So we were in in need of some help. So, we had an aid at the middle school who resigned and that was our it's kind of like an aid to helping with the alternative program just for uh middle school kids. We talked with Lesie. She felt that that that could definitely be that position could be absorbed and really wasn't needed and so did uh Brandy uh Hyatt at the middle school felt the same thing. So, we said, "Well, let's transfer that uh position into a health aid." So there really wasn't any any more cost

082um to the corporation there. So we're adding that health aid to the organizational chart too. So just those two changes. I have a motion to approve the organiz chart. I'll move to approve. Mr. Sears. I'll second Mr. Blendell. Any further discussion on that? All those in favor say I. I. I. All oppose. That motion passes 5 to zero. Item 15, consideration of the Monrovia High School handbook update. Yeah, there are very few updates to their handbook. Uh they're listed there for you and then behind is the handbook where he's highlighted where those are contained. Um really it's a lot of just some wording wording things. Um, let me see what else comments to not really. I think it's all pretty self-explanatory. Nothing nothing major really. Motion to approve the high school handbook. So move. Mr.

083Elliott, do I have a second? I'll second. Mr. Kennedy. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. I. All opposed. Motion passes 5 to zero. Number 16, consideration of furniture buyback. Yeah. So, let me explain this for our community members here. I've already kind of explained it to the board in their their board memo. Um, we have some furniture that we uh own that however is being stored and it's been stored for quite some time now. Um, it was purchased to to go into the elementary office. So, it was going to be basically a whole redo of the front office furniture that you see there. And it was going to look more like what is in the other building offices. Um, when I took over as superintendent and when Mariah took over as

084treasurer, she was getting this bill on this storage of this furniture and it's like, what is this? Where, you know, where's this coming from? So, we did some research and it was exactly what I just said. We're storing this furniture that had not been installed. Um, as I started having discussions with maintenance on like is this something that we need to do or that we even have the, you know, ability to do and and it wasn't going to be completely on us to install um the company was going to help install it. But our feeling was, okay, so we rip up all the furniture in the main office. We have no clue what we're going to see underneath that furniture, what we're going to get into. We felt it would be better to talk to

085this company and say, "Would you buy this furniture back from us so we can get out from under the storage fees and we then we'd no longer own the the furniture." Um, obviously it's they're not buying it back for what we paid for it, but I do feel we're getting a a good deal. Um, we paid u a total of 15,000. They're going to buy it back for five. Um, but it's just something I don't feel like we can get into right now with especially with, you know, facility study and that sort of thing that we need to be we need to be doing. So, I feel they're giving us about the best deal we could have hoped for at this time. So, that's why I'm asking you to approve. I'll move to approve. Mr.

086Kennedy, do I have a second? Second, Mr. Sears. Any further discussion on the furniture? All those in favor say I. All oppose. That motion passes five to zero. Item 17, permissions to sell and or dispose of surplus equipment slash items and storage. Yep. So, we have a double wide trailer that sits out back behind the elementary that is packed. Well, it was packed. Not as much anymore. uh we're moving stuff out of it because we are going to dispose of that too because it's well past its life and there's been money that's been put into that. We don't need to put money any more money into that. So, we have to get uh you know get rid of everything that's inside of there. Some things were files. We've went through all the files that we

087need to keep and those are going to be stored elsewhere. All other files that don't need to be kept at this time will be shredded per, you know, state law. Uh but there was a lot of classroom furniture in there. um so much that we need to either sell or dispose of some of it. We are holding on to some obviously um I think we're holding on to about 125 um student desks, class um about a dozen classroom those trapezoidal classroom tables, things like that. There's some projector screens that we need to get rid of, things like that. So um for any of the teachers in the room, if you need student desks, we have plenty of student desks. Don't ever think we don't. So, and we've got classroom tables, too. So, um anyway, my

088first thing I'm going to do is just get stuff out to the other local superintendent. Um and hopefully beyond that, hey, send them some pictures. We have this furniture. Anybody need any? We'd sell it to you at a very reasonable price so that we can hopefully, you know, make a little bit bit of money off of it. If not, we're going to have to look at disposing of it because we don't have room to store that much. We've kept all that we can at this point. So just asking permission to do what I just talked about. So moved. Mr. Elliott, do I have a second? I'll second. Mr. Blondo, any further discussion? Is there any opportunity to donate it if we can't find buyers? I mean, I mean, maybe that's what we should be ready

089to just somebody might be able to use. Yeah, we can. Now that you've given me permission, we can sell it. We can donate it. We can dispose of it. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. I don't know if any daycarees around here. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. All those in favor say I. All oppose. Motion passes five to zero. Item 18, consideration of the girls softball team overnight trip. Yep. So, we're doing this retroactively. I let you guys know about this uh when it came up. So, our softball team obviously won the regional and they had to go down and play uh near Ferdinand, Indiana. Anybody any bonus points to where Ferdinand Indiana is? Anybody? Yeah, some of you know. Um, so, uh, yeah, they they asked if they could spend the night closer down there because it is probably

090at least two and a half hour trip from here. Um, that was a no-brainer for me, like yes. So, I asked the board, you know, would you be willing to, um, approve this retroactively because all overnight trips have to be approved and overwhelmingly they're like, yes, absolutely. That's awesome for them. So, um, that's what I'm asking to do and I'll talk more about them when we get to other about how how they did and everything. So, Mr. because it would be possible if we consolidate like line 18 through 29 and just talk all the field trips and and camps as one and maybe then address the consideration of youth volleyball league as a separate item one just because it seems a little different 18 to say 18 to 29 would you be okay with that

091and Mr. Yeah, I was going to ask actually if you wanted to consolidate a lot of I don't know if you can kind of talk to them if there's anything that we need to know specifically about them. I know we got the information, but a lot of summer stuff looks like a lot of camps and and overnights for for field trips. Do I have a second? I'll second. Was there no discussion on that? Um on some of the other ones, I mean, most of them is very straightforward. It's mostly just camps. There are a couple overnights like the uh wrestling overnight June 23rd. Uh they're going to stay in the wrestling room and I think they're leaving that next day to head to Florida for that trip. So that's there. Um I think isn't there

092a football Yep. Consideration of Monrovia football overnight camp that's August 3rd. They're doing some really neat stuff. I think they've done this one other time according to uh Coach Olsen where they've kind of done like almost a midnight uh practice type thing and then they'd stay overnight and that sort of thing. So, um, those are the main ones I would bring your attention to since they're overnights. Everything else is pretty much camps that are just held throughout, you know, a few days or a week or that sort of thing. I mean, maybe for the public we just read off what they are and then make the motion. I don't know. Just motion to this would be a motion to approve the softball team overnight camp, the cheer team uh, with the UCA the girls basketball

093camp, wrestlers overnight camp, wrestling camp, band camp at Manchester University, the youth boys basketball camp, band camp, youth cheer camp, the summer soccer event, youth volleyball camp, and football camp. Yep. Uh, any further discussion on that? All in favor say I. I. All oppose. Motion passes for items 18 through 29. Moving on to 30, consideration of the youth volleyball league. Yeah. So, um they want to do a a youth volleyball league August 4th through September 20th. Um sponsored by the high school volleyball team, JV and and varsity. It's going to be held in the U middle school high school gymnasiums. um kind of way to build uh build the program a little bit, get get kids involved. Maybe this is a little premature, but how's that different from the youth volleyball organization that we already

094have that kind of runs? I mean, we already have a youth volleyball organization in Monroia that that is running I I think what fifth grade, fourth grade through through middle school. Is it third? I guess that'd be my only I I don't understand what's different or why we would take that on as a school versus I mean all the other leagues operate independently. So I guess do you have any color on that by chance? I'm sorry I didn't catch it until kind of looked at that's why I wanted it separated. Sure. A little different. I'd have to get information on you for that from that one. I don't have any information on that of how it's going to differ or I mean I wouldn't want to form it competingly in my mind and I don't

095really want to take the responsibility if we were to have a league that's running it in my mind. Right. You said it's sponsored by the Yeah, it's going to be sponsored by the the high school teams. Yeah. Maybe t I mean would you guys be interested in tableabling that one? Is that something I know we got a special meeting coming up you know on the 30th. We could tack it back in there if we got information. Well and you can even do it in July. This says they're not going to start it till August 4th. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to short amount of time. If it is something that we're going to do, it just it was just a little different and it's not a kind of it doesn't fall into the normal

096camps and things. It didn't seem like to me. I mean, it sounds like a different week. So, I'd like some more information. Yeah, I can definitely get you more information. I can either have it for the the June 30th meeting or definitely by July. Okay, that'd be great. Then I'll make a motion to table line 30 or the consideration utility. I'll second. vote on that. Yeah. All those in favor of tableabling item 29 say I. 30. Item 30 I. All oppose. Passes five to zero. 31 is other. Yeah. I just have a few things to talk about. Um obviously start with softball. I talked about I'll talk about we talk about that later. um had a very good showing in the in the semi-state in my opinion. Played the number one team in the state,

097Tecumpsa, who I think prior to us we we were defeated nine to two. I think that was the first runs they've given up in the past three or four games. Um girls played outstanding. Just ran into a team that had, you know, tons of tons of good softball talent, but we showed up and and did well. The they tecumpsa won the semi-state there in the evening. beat Salem 14 to nothing. So, we we put two runs on the board and and held them to nine. So, I looked at their Tecumps' schedule and there was a lot of teams they beat a lot worse. So, we did we did a good job there. Um, want to say congrat congratulations to Nelly Standerford. Ended up ninth in the state in long jump. So, that was awesome. Um,

098you've been hearing us talk about a special meeting on June 30th. We are going to have a special board meeting on June 30th. The reason behind that is we need to award if we can if they have a recommendation for us. Um Fanning and Howie will hopefully have a recommendation for us that night on who we should be recommending for the um roof uh project on this building here. They're going to do look at uh three to four sections of the roof here and that's going to be bond money from past years that we'd use on that. So that's why we have a special board meeting that night. As of right now, I think we've said 5:00, but if that doesn't work, we can move it to more like 5:30 or whatever, but um that'll

099be right here on on that that date. Um boys golf has their sectional tomorrow. It was supposed to be tonight, but it got postponed because of some wetness on the course. So that that will actually uh actually will wrap up our our sports for the year tomorrow. I mean, unless we have kids moving on, which there's a possibility they could they could move on from there, too. So, and then want to recognize the band. They won a couple awards here recently that we've kind of put out on social media. One was the uh one they've won several times, best uh community for band, and there was one other one I can't remember at this this moment, but there was another one in there, too, that they they won an award. So, um that's all I

100have at this time. We're down to the final public comments. Should we talk to about the property? I know there's like the question about some property. Can we go ahead and address that tonight as well? Absolutely. And it might be smart to grab you. Yep. So, just to update the uh audience here and what what we're dealing with. So, let's start with uh the Grenine property. We can start there because that's one we were kind of dealing with earlier. Um Diane Grenine approached us kind of earlier this school year of whether we were uh interested in purchasing their property. Um we did have it appraised. We did actually did three appraisals. Um one of we we did that because one of the one of the two initial appraisals we did we felt came back you

101know lower than what it probably should have. So we did a third one. Um, if we were to make an offer, we can only offer the average of those two um those two appraisals. Um, I've told the board at this time, uh, the only way we could purchase that property is through bond funds. I think all of our bond funds that we're dealing with right now have pretty much been spoken for. So, I feel like if they if we really want that property and they would allow us to say, "Hey, yes, we want to purchase it, here's, you know, what we could offer, but we couldn't like close on it until this point in time." Um, and so I've I've told Diane that. She said she was going to talk to her husband and see

102if that would possibly work for them. I haven't heard anything back from her since then. I can reach out to her again definitely. Um, and when I hear back from her, I'll definitely let you know. So that's that's that piece of property. And then the other piece of property we've been approached with is the remainder of the Hadley property, which you know, we own 20 acres of of what was, you know, the Hadley property. Um, but Ryan Hadley, who now owns the remainder of that, uh, had his attorney contact us to see if we were interested in the remainder of that, which, uh, correct me if I'm wrong, I can't remember the acreage at this time. It's 14 acres, something like that. Yeah. 14 15 including the house and Yep. including the house and any

103of the outuildings there and that sort of thing. So, we did have that appraised twice. Um I thought the appraisals, you know, first of all, they came back relatively close to each other. I think there's only a $25,000 difference between the two. Um with that average, I believe the most we could offer is $412,500. That would be the average of those two. Um, so yeah, we can definitely discuss where you want to go further with that because we haven't contacted U. Steve, correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think we've they've got the appraisals, right? But we haven't told them what our intentions are at this point. I mean, I guess my thought is I think we should proceed with that one. I mean, that's a nice piece of property that's a joining what we

104got. I'd like to see us proceed. We've done the appraisals. There's no risk in really making the offer, right? I mean, where cases they can say no. It would need to be subject to zoning for us to is something for school purposes. Okay. But we we do have the two appraisals. Yes. But we would just build that into the offer. Correct. My thought is we should probably proceed on that. I don't know what anyone else thinks. I'd agree. I think we should proceed. We're just kind of moving away from that property over there. This is more of a feasible option. Is that like we're not really focused on that? I think they I think they're kind of both good options. I think anything anything that's attached to your campus would right but it's across the

105road and it's a flood zone. There's a lot of that I would say right I think it's in my mind it's the more desirable property really that's just in my mind I didn't know property is more they come in there and say that you can't build anything no I think he means the the property is more because it's attached without the highway in my mind I I I'm kind of inclined to think we should pursue both possibly I think the Grenadine property in my mind we need to do a little more work mature we could use it for something we you know with the I think there needs to be Yeah, there needs to be a little bit more look into that back part of the property to see how wet it actually gets and

106what what the deal is there because I I agree. I don't want to purchase something that we can use one one acre out of a total of almost 20. So, and there's a difference in the prices, right? I mean, not necessarily per acre, but just affect the amount of ground and stuff. There's a significant difference. I do think even with the Hadley property, I would still like us to see if we could purchase it out of the bond funds we're doing like what we approved tonight and still keep what we're working on now. Keep keep that, you know, kind of earmarked for everything we've got going now and then see if they would be agreeable. If they weren't agreeable, would we be able to work out some kind of I mean, and you don't have

107to answer that today, but I mean, we could find a way for that property. Yes. You would have a rainy day or something, right? and then repay rainy day with bonds if you had to. We Mariah and I have talked about that. We'd have Well, actually, did Luke leave? No, he probably left. That's fine. We were wondering if we can do that. We'd have to figure out if you can reimburse Rainy Day out of a bond fund. Yeah. So, if that's possible, that could be a possibility. Um if if we needed to purchase the Hadley property out of our current bond funds, I can make that work much easier than the Grenine property. Yes. So I could do that because the amount correct. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm of the inclination we should probably at least

108make the offer on the to have the property. Do we Once again I know that we have to have approval from the town as far as use. That would be the zoning and we we could put that as a condition to the offer to purchase subject to us getting zoning for school purposes. And do we should we not maybe work with our facility study folks? I don't know if we could overlap that to see, you know, would that property be conducive. I mean, the the the house is an old house, you know. Yeah, we're looking at the 20, right? There's another 14. We haven't looked at that, but we can definitely take a look at that. Okay. Yeah. We get the original 20 acres. Yeah. I don't remember that part. Well, it started five years

109ago. Yeah. when the original we just we just did it in I think it was October that we got it finalized. Yeah, we did go through through some of it. Yes. Do we need a motion to to allow the offer? So moved. Second, Mr. Elliott and Mr. Sears. Any further discussion on the uh motion to move forward on the property? And I would suggest we're just going to go to the average of the two appraisals. Correct. That would be my suggestion. Yes. Yeah. All those in favor say I. I. All oppose. Motion passes five to zero. And what I'll do, I'll talk to Dennis McCross and that's his attorney and just get a a verbal commitment that if he thinks this is going to happen rather than waste our time. But I've been the indication

110I've been given so far is that he he wanted to sell, but I'll make sure. Should that motion been contingent at the zone? I I'll put that in the offer. Yes. So the offer will have that offer. We we can make the I maybe we should make the motion say that, but I I'll certainly put it in the offer. I think that would be a good idea that it would be subject to zoning for school purposes. Well, then I amend my motion to include it contingent upon that. But would you have to make the motion to have the offer include the contingency because I mean it seems like you're kind of Yes. jumbleing two things, right? Yes. So, I think that's what you got to do. It's the motion to have the offer include the

111contingency. Sorry, Jack. No, that's fine. Cool. Yeah, we have to revote on that then. I'll second his motion to amend. Yeah, if you're making a new motion. Yeah, I know that one was a good one. Okay, so we're just going to basically start over. Yes. Okay. So, Tom, you're Tom, you're going to make this motion. Okay. So, I would make a motion that we move forward with an offer and the offer contains a contingency on reszoning for school use. Yeah. up to the amount of the average of the two quotes. There you go. I second, Mr. Elliott. Any further discussion on that? All those in favor say I. I. I. All oppose. Passes five to zero. Any any other issues or comments? Now, final public comments. Please state your name, address, and you got two

112minutes. You have to go. And yeah, please go to That's right. Yeah, we're live. Yeah, we're live. Uh, Cena Bane, longtime listener, first- time caller, 380 West Crest View Drive, Morsville, Indiana. My first I I know this isn't questions, but um I do have one that I think can be answered. the curriculum with. So, we have all these new dual credits, but the language in the emails, it says AP and dual credit. And Andrew, you may be able to answer this. Is it actual AP or is it dual credit? Because those are two different things. And so, I still have a going in sophomore. And so, is it actual dual credit or is it AP? Yeah, it it is both. You can overlap them. and our conversations with IvyTech and our conversations with some other

113schools that are doing the exact same thing. Um, we are meeting in those classes we are meeting AP standards. Okay. While having a agreement with IvyTech to also list that as a dual credit class. So, but do they have to take the AP test in order to get the college credit? N okay. No. Because it is a dual credit class through IVTEC, right? that if you would want to have the freedom to go to a out of school state or um you can take that AP test and then that gives you another opportunity to just open to not have to stay in state okay transfer. Okay. And just to give you some peace of mind that's my my daughter just graduated from Eastern Green. They do the same exact thing. She took and she took

114at least two courses where she took the AP course but still got dual credit or took the AP test because she wanted to see how she would do. Mhm. Um but you still got dual credit for it. So you can get both, you can get one. Well, some if you don't take the if you don't pass the AP, you don't get the college credit. And that is not beneficial to some students if they can't take the test. Absolutely. Okay. And so then my second question in regards to this is it is noted that sophomores will now take government class is what it says down here in the social studies curriculum. Is that what is going to happen now? Because that's a pretty difficult class for sophomores to take a government class. That is part of

115the new um diplomas from from the state. part of part of well it's not a requirement that they take government as a sophomore. They don't have to take not as a sophomore not as a sophomore. They have to take government. They have to take government but is not a requirement for them to take it their sophomore year and that is a very difficult class. I mean, yeah. Yeah. It's been traditionally offered as a senior, right? Econ, right? Right. Now, econ's no longer requirement, which is ridiculous, but Right. Yeah. Personal finance is a requirement. Yeah. Um, when you look at the requirements from the state, right? Mix with the opportunities that you want to give student flexibility later on in high school for things like workbased learning, right? um we felt it was best to you'll

116have you know it was it was reimagining what can the social studies curriculum look like which is all here right so in eighth grade you take a US history almost like a US history A right as a then you're a freshman you're kind of going into high school US history almost like US history B partnering that up with a government class which is a required course yes that does give you some flexibility if if something would not go well you're not requing ing a senior necessarily to pass that course. There's some flexibility later on in high school to address that. Now, at the same time, you can see we're offering that dual credit one, which is going to be then a raised bar for government, too. So, that was the thought process and we talked

117to our social studies department like that was not a internal decision whatsoever. That was very much a group between the counselors, the principal and the social studies department thinking this is probably what's best in terms of the design. So the answer is yes. Right. It's a 10th grade requirement. It's not I just want to be careful with language. It's not 10th grade. You are not required to take it as 10th grade. But the way we're designing our curriculum. Yes. It's the flow. It's the flow. Yes. And as a former teacher here and as a teacher at other schools, I know that the curriculum is very much set up for the students that they do not have much flexibility in their schedules. So when they get their schedule, they may get one or two options in

118their classes and their curriculum and then that's it. Because I mean I get now that we have a lot of dual credits now that we're going to be offering, but they those dual credits are just like as options, those other Englishes are still requirements whether they take the dual credit or not. And those dual credits are college courses and as a dual credit teacher, they're hard. You have to what IvyTech sends you is exactly how you have to teach it. And it is a college course. So you can take it as a freshman, you can take it as a sophomore or as a junior, but it is college work and it is very difficult because you are getting those college courses and college credits for free. So, taking a government class as a sophomore and

119I get like, oh, you can take it as a sophomore and then you get to take a dual credit as a junior, assuming you pass it like and if you don't pass it now, your GPA is down and that's going to impact you as you go into college. So I mean I just that this I understand like the concept trying to help the students that are naturally smart but for someone who was me who a C was a good grade for me and I did very well in college but in high school I didn't. And so this is going to like I almost feel like this is going to make kids struggle even more and not I mean sitting here watching some of our data we're not doing great. So I don't know it's just

120this curriculum is a little bit concerning. Although I'm super excited about dual credit that concerns me a little bit. Um, my last one, my last comment. I am confused on how we have a volleyball coach that could not coach because of culture, but now she is approved to be an assistant track coach. I just don't know how like make that make sense to me. It doesn't make sense to me. I'd say maybe the question is the season's over and has just now been brought here. So, I don't know. She I mean, she coached, right? Yeah. And then she wasn't renewed because the culture wasn't right. She has to be compensated for that time. Correct. We just now got the recommendations for all the track coaches. They just they didn't get in here in time for

121the last last meeting. So, we just got them for this meeting. So, this isn't for next year. No, that was for this past season. So, all the So, she continued it after volleyball. She was recommended to coach after she was let go as an assistant. Correct. As she was an assistant. Yeah. Well, that way you could look at it where when I had an assistant, I was in charge of him. You know, maybe that would be the reason. you know, like I'm the governing as a head coach, so it's not on me. So maybe that's why it's an assistant. I don't know. I'm just spitballing here. Why I've had some assistants that had no, you know, I was in charge of them. You know, if they were to screw up, I would be, you know,

122as on me because I hired them. You know, volunteer or not. You know, trying to say that's why this was paid, not volunteer. I'm just saying it's why it's a paid position, right? that was approved here tonight. Correct. And not ever removed from the duties during the track position. The track position that is being approved tonight was for the track season that was just completed and the culture was still fine during the many two or three months that there was conversation here that the culture was bad. I just it I mean I don't feel like I'm a dumb person, but I just feel like it just isn't processing in my head very well. That's all. Thank you. Any other comments? Quick, if I can. Mark James, I'll use the high school as my address. Uh

123I I just want to say one more time how much I appreciate Jonah what he's done for our program. Um he's leaving it better than he found it. And you don't often say that about you know a lot of instructional aids but um his very first year I missed four weeks with knee replacement and we didn't skip the beat. U and uh not only am I appreciative of him but I'm very thankful that Owen's coming back to uh kind of taking the time from him and I know we'll continue to grow. Owen is a recent graduate of Ball State and audio video communications and he's uh got some some ideas to kind of better prepare our communication students for for college life and um I I I'll tell you I'm I'm really blessed to have

124both of them. So, thanks for your support of this. Appreciate it. Anything else? I need a motion to adjurnn some Mr. Elliot. Do I have a second? Mr. Blendell. All those in favor say I. I. I. 806. 5 Z. Journ. 806.