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Malden School Committee SPECIAL MEETING 2026-01-28

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2026-01-29
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001Good evening everyone. We're going to call this  special meeting of the Malden School Committee to   order. The time is 6:03 p.m. Today is Wednesday,  January 28, 2026. Our next meeting will take place   on Monday, February 2nd at 6:00 p.m. here in the  chamber. This evening's agenda will consist of   the following. First, we will pledge allegiance to  our flag. We'll then take a moment of silence for   those who have served our country and continue to  do so. We will then take attendance to ensure that   we have a quorum sufficient to allow us to come  together. And then we will get into the agenda   which consists of one item, the Northeast Metro  Tech School Committee vacancy interviews of which   there are two, Leonard Ayino and Sean Salazar.  Uh from there we will deliberate. We expect   to deliberate

002and then after that we will move  adjournment. So are there any questions of the   team hearing? None. Please rise and let's salute  our flag. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the   United States of America and to the republic  for which it stands, one nation under God,   indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.  Please remain standing for a moment of silence   in honor of all those who have fought for  our country and continue to do so today. Thank you. We'll now have our clerk call the role.  Mayor Christensen here. Councelor Lennahan here.   Mr. Drum here. Mr. McCarthy. Miss Bataphora here.  Miss Mlin here. Miss Horty here. Mr. Piaza here.   Mr. Bernard, Miss Rosyberg. So, we have a quorum  sufficient to allow us to gather. We're now going   to go to Miss Bataphor to introduce the

003topic on  why we're gathered here tonight. And before I do,   I just want to uh thank her uh for her hard  work on this. I know it's had different uh   variations here when it was first introduced, and  I appreciate your efforts to get us to this point.   So with that being said, let's go to Miss Fetta  forward to get sort of a pretext as to why we're   here. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Please excuse me. This  frog in my throat. So um due to the unfortunate   passing of um Mr. James Holland, he was the school  committee representative to the Northeast Metro   Tech Regional Vocational School for Malden. Um  and he had served uh since being elected in 2024.   um due to his passing this left a vacancy in this  seat. um the contract that this city

004um all the   cities actually have with the northeast um I'm  going to call it the voke just to be a little bit   easier um just for those um that are not familiar  reads that any vacancy um occurring among the   members of the initial committee appointed under  subsection one um shall be filled in the same   manner as the original appointment. If a vacancy  occurs among the members elected by a member town   under subsection I, the school committee members  of the and the selectmen from the town involved   acting jointly shall appoint a member to serve  until the next annual town election or in the   case of the town of Sus until its next regular  bianual election at which election a successor   shall be elected to serve for the balance of the  ex unexpired term if any. If

005a vacancy occurs   among the members elected by a city us under  subsection I, the local school committee members   and the members of the city council from the city  involved acting jointly shall appoint a member to   serve until the next regular bianual city election  at which election a successor shall be elected   to serve for the balance of the unexpired term if  any. Now, that then kind of raised a question of,   okay, well, what does that that procedure look  like? um in in conjunction with our city council.   And in our school committee policy, we have a  policy for something very similar. Um that the   school committee will work um in conjunction  with the mayor, who is also our chair. and the   president of the city council acting on behalf  of um on behalf of the city council

006would then   meet in joint convention to choose a school  committee man for the unexpired term. Um so that   is the policy that we are following um for this  particular um vacancy. It's in the school in the   city council meeting back in December I think it  was or November um it it was really stressed that   we just wanted a procedure to to be followed.  So, um we found that this was um the most   straightforward way and um are really excited that  we had applicants interested in in serving the   students of Malden. Um and I think And how long  was the posting up? The posting was up for two   weeks. I believe it was 12 days. um in I believe  it was 12 days. Okay. All right, everyone. So,   there you have the context. Any questions before 

007we begin begin? If not, if I may, Mr. Chair,   and I just want to um for the record, um member  McCarthy is not in attendance with us as he is,   um employed by the Metro Tech Regional Vocational  School. Therefore, he is abstaining from these   um proceedings. And um member Bernard is just  stuck in some traffic and should be with us soon,   but I think everybody is um working a little  bit slower with the amount of snow on the   ground. So good. All right. So if there are no  questions, did you have one, Miss Mlin? Please. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just  for a point of clarification,   um can we know what the interim term is or when  that expires? Sure. So the um last election   took place in 2024 in this position is a 4-year 

008term. So the next election will be from 2028. So   uh approximately two years left in this um and  then at that point it will be um to the voters of   Malden to choose um whom they deem fit. Very good.  Thank you Miss Mlin. All right. So let's do this.   So we're first going to hear from Mr.  Ayavino. So if you would step forward,   we're going to allow each candidate a three  minute opening statement and then we'll open   it up to questions. So let me just You want  to get the time? So just one second, Mr. Let's do it. Okay. Thank you very much. Uh ladies  and gentlemen of the school committee and madame   uh president madame representative of the Malden  city council uh you have my resume, you have my   uh letter of intention. So

009I'm ready for your  questions if you have any questions. Okay,   let's open it up to questions from the team.  Any questions? Uh let's go to Councelor Lahan.   Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, thank you so much  for being here tonight and for submitting   such a thorough um, resume. I'm wondering if  you can tell us a little bit about how you   think your background and your professional  experience will contribute to this role um,   and serving the the regional board and our  community specifically. Well, I think that   um when you're a member of a school committee, in  order to be a good member of a school committee,   you really have to have a passion for what you're  doing. You need to have an honest concern for the   well-being of the youngsters that are in your  concern. And in

010this case, that would be the   obviously the students in Wakefield. Um you have  to be able to see the big picture. I've been a   member of the Malden School Committee. I served  for 16 years. I'm aware of what my duties are,   what the duties and responsibilities of a school  committee person are, and I think I can carry that   forward for the remainder of Jim's term. Um, my  intention is not to seek re-election. It's just   to finish uh uh Jim's term. Jim is a personal  friend and and I would consider an honor to to   you know to fill this vacancy. Um I'm a person  who likes to work collaboratively. I like to   reach consensus. Um, I understand that on any  given issue at any given time there's going   to be disagreement and that's fine. As long

011as  you can agree to disagree in an agreeable way,   that's that's important. Um, you need a vision  for the future and all of that is important,   but what's really important is you have to be a  good steward of the taxpayers's dollars. We all   know what the cost of groceries and everything  else is. So it's important to that that's that's   paramount. May I ask a follow-up please? So thank  you for that. Um I wanted to also ask one of the   things that came up in our personnel committee  meeting in discussing this position um was a sense   from the council that we sometimes don't um know  always what's going on with this body and that   we'd love to have a little more collaboration.  You spoke of having collaboration. Do you have   ideas of how um in this

012role, if you were to get  this position, you could foster more um two-way   communication or collaboration among this body  and other stakeholders such as the Malden School   Committee or the city council or um just residents  of the city? Just wanting to have a little bit   more information about what goes on at the VOE  and what this specific um role is doing would be   it's something that I heard from my colleagues  is something that they would love to see more   of. Certainly. Yes. Um, it would be incumbent  upon the person, me or whoever is selected for   this position to make sure that any information  pertinent to what goes on in the Malden School   Committee is available. Um, I could certainly be  a part of of the Malden School Committee if you   needed a um an updated

013report to know what's going  on. Uh, the progress curriculum um going whatever   is needed, I could certainly provide that anybody  that that's very important. It has to be part of   the discussion. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank  you. Uh, let's next go to Miss Horty. Then we'll   go to Miss Mlin and then Miss Rose Dyberg. Thank  you, Mr. Chair. Hi, thanks for being here. Um,   due to the recent change in the admission process  for Voke Tech schools, there seems to be a lot   of moving parts for that, especially with such a  larger Voke Tech school that pulls in 12 different   communities. Can you tell us how you're going to  be the voice for Malden students to make sure that   they're guaranteed fair admission? Well, as my  understanding is there's going to be a lottery   um

014very similar to the way the youngsters lottery  in the uh middle se uh the Mystic Valley Charter   School. So, I will look at that policy very  very carefully and I will adhere to it.   I know it's it's very tempting when  somebody comes to you and said, "Gee,   do you think you can help me?" And as much as you  want to help somebody, if the policy says, "No,   it's a strict lottery system," then it has to be  that way. It can't vary because once it varies,   it's no longer a program. It's no longer a good  system. Thank you. Welcome. Thank you, Mr. Mlin. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh, good evening, Miss  Javina. Thanks for being here this evening and   for your interest. Um, I believe it's important  for the members of the Vogue school committee   to

015gather data on local employment trends and  skill gaps to meet uh with the evolving needs   of employers today. And so my question is, how can  a vocational school committee assess the alignment   of its programs with workforce demands and what  significance do you believe industry partners   hold in this evaluation? Well, I think industry  partners hold a very important position and the   students who come out of the Northeast Voke  School um they're in a unique position because   they've had an opportunity to be ex exposed to  not just because it's a comprehensive high school   and they can take college level courses and they  can enter a four-year college if they so choose,   but they also have an ability to be exposed to  the various career offerings there and they're   going to receive training that's I would say it's 

016apprentice level training. It's going to put them   in goodstead to um seek job opportunity in what  is an everchanging global job experience. Um I   think that it's important um for and this is where  the community can come in. I think the community   would serve any community that's interested in  wanting to maintain open guidance of communication   and find out exactly what's going on. Um  that's where this liaison role would come in. If if I may um just in addition to that um how can  we make certain that these programs are inclusive   and um responsive to students with diverse  learning needs and cultural backgrounds? Well,   I I that's very important because the new school  um with its increased capacity up to 1600 students   is going to provide for an ability to to uh make  more inclusive the

017school to also make sure that   the um the special ed programs where you have some  youngsters who have academic deficiencies are well   taken care of and their programs are monitored.  you have an administrative staff in any school   that would would monitor such situations and make  sure that the uh IEPs the 504 plans are being met.   Okay. Thank you. Okay, Miss Rose Zyberg. Thank  you, Mr. Chair, and thank you for for being here.   Mr. Ivino, uh my question is school districts  are working to create and implement policies that   address the use of AI and technology in schools.  What are your thoughts on this both from a teacher   and student perspective, including the use of  cell phones inside school buildings? I'm very   much opposed to the use of cell phones in school  buildings. I think that they're

018a distraction,   an unnecessary distraction. If a student is  in need to reach communications with the home,   the school administrative office can handle that.  The nurs's office can handle that. Other guidance   department could handle that. Um, what was  the other part of your question, please?   the use of AI, artificial intelligence. That's  a that's a really open-ended question and I'm   not sure I have a good answer for that. The United  States Congress hasn't does not have a good answer   for that among other things, but they certainly  don't have a policy regulating the use of AI. Um,   good question and I don't have an answer for  you. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Piaza. Thank you,   Mr. Chair. Um, Mr. Iino, thank you for your  interest in serving uh students and families   in Malden. I have a question that builds

019off  um a topic uh raised by my colleague. Um given   um technological innovation uh that we've seen  lately, especially the way that AI is replacing   uh work formerly conducted by human beings. Why  is a vocational education important um in these   times? And what is it about your background  and experience that prepares you to guide   um a vocational school during times of such  change? Well, I think the the issue is guiding   a school. I've had uh approximately 35 and a  half years of experience in the Malden public   schools as a teacher and administrator, 16 years  on the Malden School Committee. You have to have   a passion. You have to have a concern. Um,  you also have administrative staff and you   have department chairs and you have curriculum  directors and coordinators and it's incumbent upon   the administration

020to make sure that those those  people in charge of delivering the curriculum   are current with it and making sure that the  standards state standards are being followed. Mr. No, that's great. All right. Thank  you. Uh let's see other questions maybe just from the chair Mr. Iino when you think  of the vote you think careerbound how do you   ensure that the programming there benefits both  careerbound and collegebound again that's where   your administration comes in Mr. requirement. Uh  the administration has to be very very cautious   and careful. Uh we have state standards that  we have to meet and it's up to your and we   here in Malden have directors, we have curriculum  coordinators that those are the people they really   make sure that the rubber hits the road. Yeah.  Kids have one opportunity as freshman, sophomores,   juniors,

021whether first grade, kindergarten,  and you have to make sure that that experience   is the best that those students are going to  have. Very good. I don't see any other lights,   so we're going to have you step back and we'll  bring up the next candidate, Sean Salazar. Good evening. Good evening. Uh, one  second. We're just going to set the clock. Okay, three minutes. Okay. Good evening,  Mayor Christensen, Vice Chair Spataphora,   members of the school committee, and city council  president Lanahan. Thank you for the opportunity   to be here today. I'm grateful for the chance  to be considered for this interim appointment,   and I want to be clear about why I believe  my experience aligns well with what Northeast   Metro Tech and the city of Malden need at this  moment. Um, I'm hoping that uh there's a document  

022I shared earlier today um that sort of goes over  my resume and how I sort of see my resume fitting   specifically into the role of a school committee  member, especially in an intern position. Um,   but to go over a few things, I'm a Desi licensed  career vocational technical education instructor   in hospitality management and culinary arts. And  for more than six years, I've worked directly with   the chapter 74 frameworks. On a daily basis, I  see how governance decisions translate into real   outcomes for students. Whether that is access to  programs, support services, or workforce readiness   after graduation. Before entering vac education,  I spent over 20 years in leadership roles in the   hospitality industry and large-scale operations,  including serving as director of banquetss at the   Hines Convention Center. In my different roles, I  oversaw budgeted operations of up

023to $13 million   and managed more than 200 union employees. My  experience has grounded me in fiscal oversight,   labor relations, facilities management, and  accountability, the same core areas a regional   school committee is responsible for at the policy  level. I also bring governance experience through   union leadership including contract negotiations  which has reinforced the importance of role   clarity, collaboration and process. I understand  the difference between oversight and management   and I take that distinction seriously. Northeast  Metro Tech is in a period of transition with a new   building, evolving programs, and high expectations  from sending communities like Malden. If   appointed, my approach would be to listen first,  respect decisions already made, and contribute   thoughtfully and professionally. My focus would  be on stability, informed oversight, and ensuring   Malden students continue to be well served during  this transition. Thank you. All right,

024thank you.   Same thing. Let's open it up to questions from the  team. Uh let's go to President Lahan. Thank you,   Mr. Chair. Thank you so much for coming in  and for your statement. Um, so in since you   addressed a little bit of the previous question  that I had asked the last candidate of how your   professional experience would inform the role,  I'm going to skip to my second question about how   you might improve the communication since that was  something that was pretty central for our council   discussions. Just wanting to have a little bit  more of that collaboration among this role and the   voke um and the various bodies, elected bodies in  Malden and constituencies including the families   that send kids to the voke. Definitely. And I've  given this a lot of thought as I thought about  

025applying for this interim position. Um it's to me  has to be sort of a listening tour at first. You   know, I'd love to meet with Mayor Christensen. I'd  love to meet with you as well um as members of the   city council and the school committee to get all  of that shareholder input input. Nothing I can do   at that committee level would be done without  Malden in mind. And I can't do that without   Maldin in mind, without having the stakeholders  um such as yourselves, but more importantly also   the students, the students families, staff at  the school, administration at the school. I   really want to talk to everyone, listen to  everyone so that I'm coming in with multi-   um multi-perspectives, right? I deal day-to-day  with the how our frameworks are supposed to be   taught. we have a

026lot of leeway in the curriculum  development that we build, but there's also,   you know, there's a lot of other people that have,  you know, policies or procedures or priorities   that they want to see met. So, again, it's a  collaborative experience, and I would definitely   reach out to every organization, um, both here  within city council chambers, um, the city,   students, and everyone else because I I c I can't  do that job without knowing what that importance   is to everybody. Great. Thank you. Okay. Uh, Miss  Mlin, she'll be followed by Miss Rose Zyber. Uh,   thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, and thank you, uh,  Mr. Salazar for being here this evening and   for your interest um, in this role. Um, and so  to repeat my um, questions that I I posed to Mr.   IO um I believe it's

027important for members of  the ves school committee to gather data on local   employment trends and skill gaps to meet with the  evolving needs of employers. So my question is   how can a vocational school committee assess the  alignment of its programs with workforce demands   and what significance do you believe industry  partners hold in this evaluation? Great. Thank   you. Well, first of all, um before the chapter  74 frameworks are developed for each program,   there is input from industry. There's input from  educators, the input from family. There's a lot   of input right up front. Um and that input can't  stop once those frameworks are in place. Um we   need to be able to engage everyone. Um you know,  could you repeat the second part of your question?   I'm sorry. Sure. Lost my friend for a minute. No,  that's

028okay. Um what significance do you believe   industry partners holds on this evaluation?  That's something that I do every day. Um per   uh the advisory councils that each program have  to have have required um union representatives,   former students and industry leaders in those  program advisory committees. So it's very much   about getting all of that input from the program  advisory committees. I have a lot of people within   the hospitality industry that I keep bringing in  to add to my program that I teach as well. So,   it's vital to know a what the demand is for the  jobs out there. How do you know how those demands   are? You've got to talk to the cities. You've got  to talk to the different local organizations um   that help to facilitate interviews for students,  right? There's a lot of different

029people that   can help us make sure that what we're teaching  and what we're offering as programs is what's   needed out there. Um, currently in Everett where I  teach, we're combining the hospitality management   programs and the culinary arts programs because  the need of a all of the above strategy to run a   food and beverage business needs to be there.  It's not just about the culinary production.   It's not just about the management. So, it's  taking what's going on out in industry right   now and adapting each program that some programs  may not survive because the jobs aren't there   for our students to go to. But I also don't want  to limit um one of the things we as teachers of   CTE really push back against in academic world is  our kids are considered the non-olbound kids. But   that's

030not true. It's an all of the above. So it's  getting you know secondary higher you know higher   education higher learning um universities colleges  also to be involved to see what they can continue   on the education. So it's multiaceted. Again, I  think there's so many stakeholders that need to be   involved, but you're not going to have a program  where there's no future for this child. Um,   communities like Everett, communities like Malden,  um, we have a lot of working poor. We've got a lot   of immigrant communities. Success doesn't look  like it did when I was going through high school   and college or any of you. Success now is above  and beyond above and all strategy. So it's not   just going into the workforce, it's who's going  on to college, who's going on to the military,   and how

031those learning experiences that we have  in the classroom can be translated. Okay. And   just my followup um was um additionally, how can  we make certain that these programs are inclusive   and responsive to students with diverse learning  needs and cultural backgrounds given that we are   in such a diverse uh city of Malt? Yeah. I mean,  I'm going to take back to my um my experience as   a teacher. You've got to understand the  background of your students first and   foremost. You've got to understand the background  of the Senate communities. Um I am a co-chair of   our gender sexuality alliance. So, I have a very,  you know, I have an affinity to helping out those   students that are underrepresented in these larger  bodies and in these larger organizations. Um so,   it would be definitely a priority. Um I

032would  love to hear from more ideas of other people of   how we can actually do that from an admissions  process. We are really kind of hamstrung with   what we can do. I mean even this year they've put  down even more regulations of how we can accept   students and they're not taking into consideration  attendance. They're not taking into consideration   into discipline. Right? Are those the right things  to do? I'm not sure. But we've got to go through   and figure out are we losing good people? Are  we not being culturally sensitive? Are we losing   um students that this would be really important  for their success? Thank you. Thank you, Mr.   Chair. Thank you, Miss Mlin. Next up will be Miss  Rose Zyberg. We'll then go to Mr. Piaza and then   we'll go to Miss Hoy. Thank you,

033Mr. Chair. Thank  you, Mr. Salazar for coming in. Same question that   I posed to uh Mr. Aino. School districts are  working to create and implement policies that   address the use of AI and technology in the  schools. What are your thoughts on this both   from a teacher and student perspective, including  the use of cell phones inside school buildings? I   will say our CT department is leading Everett High  School in our no cell phone policy altogether. I   start my classes with put them away, put them in  a bag. I don't want to see them. Cell phones don't   have a place in our classrooms. It's becoming a  p an epidemic really of students learning losing   learning time because they're so engrossed in  their phones. Um so I think especially when it   comes to safety in some of these

034programs having  a phone in a carpentry shop definitely is a big   safety issue. Having a phone in the kitchen for  colonite definitely a big safety issue. So I'm   definitely not for integrating phones of any sort  into the classroom. AI is a different story. Um,   I've battled personally and professionally  with how I handle AI as a teacher. My biggest   thing with my students is AI is okay, but you've  it's the inputs that you put into it. If you put   thought and you put clarity and you're putting  your own original ideas into something that   can help turn it into more of a coherent plan,  you know, there are places for it, but it needs   to be taught like you would teach any resource,  right? People don't go to encyclopedias anymore,   right? But there needs to be taught

035as part of  the whole education process that AI is part of   it. As a professional, I use AI pretty often. You  know, I have lesson plans that I've had for years.   I've have ideas that I have that I'll put in and  say, "Here's the lesson I want to do. Here's the   pieces I want to include." And AI helps me come up  with a more coherent strategy. You're not going to   live by AI, though, right? It takes someone  with a brain. It takes someone with passion.   it takes someone to look at what's coming out of  the AI and adapting it and really going through   with a fine tooth comb to see, you know, does this  make sense to what I'm doing? So, I think AI is   tricky. I think AI in the classroom is tricky.  Um,

036I think from the academic standpoint though,   it needs to be taught as a resource to be  used because it's not going away anytime   soon. I do have fears about how it does affect  the workplace and especially a lot of the trades   that we're doing. But that's the good thing  about trade. You can't really AI that away. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Piaza. Thank you, Mr.  Chair. Thank you, Mr. Salazar. Um, you your the   the statement that you just ended on is a good  transition into the question that I was going   to ask, which is about um, you know, and it's the  same question that I asked Mr. Iv, you know, in   an economy that's becoming rapidly reshaped by AI  and other technological changes. Why is vocational   education important today? And what is it about  your

037background and experience that's prepared   you to guide a vocational school during times  of great change? Great. Um, again, like I said,   you can't replace a human being doing a physical  trade with AI. Um, sorry, repeat the question   again. Yeah. I know I had a lot in there. No,  it's okay. So uh so why is why is um vocational   education important in the era of AI which you've  you've you've you've addressed and then what is it   about your background um and uh experiences that  prepares you to lead a vocational school to help   lead a vocational school? Yeah. I mean again my  background is I I worked in hospitality management   for 20 years. I've I've managed union employees.  I started from the bottom up. I was a you know I   was a banquet server in high school.

038I worked  as a host in in a restaurant in high school.   um understanding the chapter 74 frameworks and  again how the classroom should look but it isn't   my role 100% as a school committee member to sort  of impose that down but having a knowledge of what   these teachers are supposed to be teaching and  the importance of transferring those skills into   actually doing work. I think that's the one thing  that I find really um exciting about vocational   education is it is work-based learning. What  I'm teaching my kids right now is a skill that   whether they go into this career field or  not, they do it as a part-time job. It is   directly applied to doing something whether it's  physical or something creative. It's um you know,   vocation has become my p passion. I never planned  on

039becoming a teacher. Um I was sort of looking   for something as I turned 40 that would be less  hard on my body as food and beverage management   was very hard. But now I f I fell in love with  it. I think vocational education more so than even   when I was growing up, it was for the bad kids.  It was the kids not going to college. That's not   what it is anymore. It is a strategy to success.  And we as the, you know, the adults in the room   need to be really making sure that the word is out  there that we're not undermining. We don't think   of less of you. What we're trying to do is create  skills that you're going to actually use out in   the workforce. And hopefully, again, you know, AI  won't be

040taking these jobs away. Maybe they will   someday. I hope hopefully not within my lifetime,  but it's important and it really is passionate to   me. You know, vocational education is something  that for all students is an experience. Yeah,   appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Horty.  Thank you, Mr. Mr. Chair. Hi. Hi. Welcome. Thank   you. Um, I'm going to ask you a little bit  of a different version of the same question.   um due to the change in the admission process for  the vocational technical schools throughout the   state obviously. Um how do you feel like you're  going to be able to represent the Malden students   that because clearly only a small portion are  going to be able to go because I mean that's   always the way it is but the lottery system has  changed that. Um, how

041do you feel like you'll be   able to handle all of the pieces of that? Because  that's taking place this year. It is. I mean,   a lot of it won't be up to me. A lot of it has  to be up to the administration to execute. Um,   I need to dig down even as an educator myself  as we go through the lottery process. We've had   different lottery versions at every high school  of how we've done it. Some of it has worked,   some of it hasn't. You know, right now we've  got a lot of um a lot of students that may   not necessarily have picked the program that  they wanted. It wasn't their first choice,   but because of the lottery system, now they're  in it, and they're questioning sort of why am   I in this program? So,

042it's also clarifying  upfront that if you're going for something,   you need to know specifically what you want, what  program you want. And we really need to make sure   that we're providing all of the information to  the families and the students about what that   application process is because it can seem simple.  Yeah, it's a lottery. Great. Throw your name in.   But what goes into that lottery? And again, I  need to dig down a little bit deeper into the   actual minutia of it. Um, it's just something  that's really become a topic of conversation   in our staff meetings later lately. So definitely  want to I I will be digging down more into that.   Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. All right.  Seeing no other lights, let me just ask the same   question and it gets forgotten that there

043are  students at the VO who are collegebound. How   do you balance the needs of collegebound versus  careerbound? I don't think it's a different need   to be quite honest. I think it's the same support  systems. you need the academic programs and you   need the skills and the work-based learning. Um,  both go on to college. There are great college   level programs for culinary arts. That's what  I graduated from. For hospitality management,   that's what I graduated from. So, it's about  providing the support to the student that there   are multiple pathways for you. It's not just  one or the other. You could do maybe a year   working in the industry and then decide to go  further your education in college. So, again,   it's not about picking and choosing which ones  we do. The support systems need to be all

044the   same. And this needs to be student driven of what  their view of success is, which is definitely,   you know, handinhand with the guidance department,  handinhand with the program teachers, handinhand   with the academic teachers. It's going to take  all of us, no matter what, whether you're going to   college or into the workforce, you're really going  to need to know the same things. Got it. Thank   you. Thank you. All right. Thank you very much.  Thank you very much. There you have it, everyone.   So what's the pleasure of this committee?  We'll entertain any motions for consideration. Well, we could just please, Mrs. Spaphor, I I  just wasn't sure if any of the members wanted   like five minutes just to digest. Sure. um any of  of those questions to to think or um or if we are   ready

045just to roll right in. Do the members  want to recess or are we ready to discuss? All right. Hearing none on we'll  entertain any uh motions of the body and if none can hold it over.  If if if there's well um I'd like to make a motion um to recommend  Mr. Aino to the appointment of um the   Northeast Metro Tech Regional Vocational  School. I guess for purposes of discussion   as well. Um just from my my own standpoint  um both candidates are extremely extremely   um qualified for this position. It's actually  quite awkward to be sitting here as a school   committee member because this isn't the  norm. We usually allow our our peers to   you know through an election um to choose. I  guess my vision that I'm seeing um that Mr.   Ayabino has is he does

046have the experience  to hit the ground running um in just with a   position a seat that has been open for so long.  I personally want to see someone there tomorrow   um representing the kids immediately. Um  so well let's see if there's a second and   seconded by Mr. Drum. So, it's properly before  us now. Any questions, queries, qualms on that? Uh, Mr. Bernard, um, I think my only um concern  is, and this is no disrespect to to Mr. I know   cuz I I you know he has certainly gone and done  years of service and and he is wellversed in in   uh you know the procedures of the system here.  Um it's that the nature of vocational studies   is changing. Uh we had what three questions on AI  that I just heard. Um, and not to go

047and say that,   you know, don't no one can do this. I just heard  uh I just think that um Mr. Salazar had some some   very intelligent, thoughtful answers. Um, and I  apologize because I only kind of heard part of   what Mr. Ayavina went and said. I just want to  make sure that um you know I would assume that   um that Mr. Salazar once this term is done that  he may go and run again and we're kind again I   always like to go and think in terms of what's now  what's going to be in five years what's going to   be in 10. I don't know if he's looking to go  and stay there for 10, but that being said,   um we want to make sure that that we've got  someone in there that's going to go

048and be   have that ability to kind of go and be thoughtful,  think as things going into the future. Very much   that same way. Okay, Mr. Piaza, and then over to  Council Lahan. Yeah. Um so a as as you mentioned   uh Miss Vice Chair, we're we're lucky, right,  to have so uh to have two applicants that are   so uh obviously qualified for for the position.  Um when I uh when I look at both the application   materials and also, you know, reflecting on the  um the answers that we just heard, for one thing,   I'd like to kind of second some of the the  comments made by member Bernard. Uh I I uh   I want to highlight a few pieces that in my mind  distinguish the two candidates uh from each other.   One of those is that uh

049in Mr. Salazar's answers,  I heard reference to the chapter 74 um standards   and frameworks frequently throughout uh the  responses to a variety of questions. And I and I I   love me a standard. I mean, that's why I'm sitting  here, right? I love I love some state standards.   And when when when we think about um you know the  types of uh the types of learning experiences that   students are have but also the types of um  instructional responsibilities that are on   our teachers it comes from the standards and I  and I and I just got the sense from Mr. Salazar   that there's not only a a deep knowledge of those  standards but he lives them in his day-to-day life   um as a teacher at Everett um high school. So,  so, so that's that's one issue is just

050knowledge   of vocational standards specifically. Uh,  another another issue is that or another another   distinguishing factor. I think it's like proximity  to students, right? Mr. Salazar is in a room with   students every day of his professional life. And I  think having that experience is just so important   when you're thinking about highlevel policy. We  always want policy to be student centered, right?   And I know and this is why I say at the beginning  that um that we have two qualified applicants. Mr.   Ayavino has spent his entire career with students.  And so so it's you know there's there's there's a   similarity there. But when you think about um when  you think about just the day-to-day work that Mr.   Salazar does with students that distinguishes  the two candidates for me. And then there's   one last piece um that I

051want to add. uh this  was woven into I think the response to um Miss   Mlin's question about uh equity but I might be  misremembering it but uh Mr. Zeler said that   uh he uh co-chairs and please correct me if this  wrong the the gender and sexuality alliance. And   I think that spaces like vocational schools are  often um I mean really in all educational settings   uh gender non-conforming students or students  from uh uh students from different uh backgrounds   aren't always welcome. And I think we have  somebody here who works with students in order   to make more inclusive learning environments. And  I think that that's really important given um the   kind of challenges we see today. So very good.  Thank you, Councelor Lahan. Thank you, Mr. Chair.   Um I want to echo a lot of what uh

052Mr. Piaza just  said, a lot of what I had intended to say kind of   took the words right out of my mouth. I think um  as you said, we have we have a benefit of having   two very qualified candidates here, both of whom  took a lot of time to explain their background   and answer our questions. Um, some of the things  that stood out to me about Mr. Iavino's resume,   of course, the the depth of experience working  not just as an elected official, but in education,   um, student mentoring, faculty development, and  working on school culture. Those are things that   we would be very lucky to have in a position like  this. I thought you very thoughtfully answered   the questions that I posed to you. Um, but the  things that really stood out to me about Mr.  

053Salazar, which would prompt me to lean towards  supporting his candidacy for this role. Again,   as Mr. Piaza said, some of the things about just  the student development and being in the industry,   having that ed education onhands education  experience in a vocational setting right now,   um, and having worked in the trades, I think, is  is important. I I would like to echo Mr. Bernard's   question about what your intent is in in terms of  this position, whether um because I I don't unless   I missed it, I don't think you addressed whether  your intent is to fill the interim or whether   you'd be interested in running um after this.  So, I would like to get an answer to that because   Mr. Ayavino was pretty upfront about that. So, if  you wouldn't mind coming back and answering that,   I

054think it's important for us to know. It would  be my intent, yes, to to continue on and to run   for that position. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thank you  so much for that. Um, but I, you know, I also do   want to come back to this AI question because I  know all of you know this because I've been here   bothering all of you about it as a constituent.  Um, but I think it is critically important and I,   you know, I come from a family, I'm pretty much  the only one in my family who doesn't work in a   trade and didn't go to vocational school and I'm  married to someone who's in a labor union where AI   is being very affected. most of the labor unions  are and a lot of the students that are going to  

055graduate from the VO will be affected in some way  by the impacts of AI in one way or another. And I   just loved your answer not just about how phones  and AI are affecting the classroom now. I agreed   across the board with everything that you said.  Um, but also just having a thoughtful response   to how we're going to equip students for what  they're going to encounter in the workforce as   this affects the industries that they're going  to um, be going into. It it is the reality that   we need to be thinking about that. Um, and then  just the last two things I would say is that I   thought you had great answers to identifying  the key stakeholder groups and how to engage   with them in the community because again just to  underscore that is something

056that the council had   really wanted to hear, you know, a um thoughtful  answer to and also just understanding those new   lottery requirements. Um, I know a couple of us  had questions about that. So, I thought that was   great that you were able to weigh the benefits and  the drawbacks of that and demonstrate a thoughtful   understanding of it. So, I would be supporting  Mr. Salazar's candidacy tonight and I thank you   for the opportunity to be here and represent the  council. Mr. Dormy, thank you Mr. Chairman. Uh   both gentlemen, thank you. Um I'm a product  of a a Voke, Catholic one, but still a Voke.   uh my three youngests also attended the hook and  one is in the trades the other two they are in a   different way but each gentleman brings their own  unique perspective to

057it and while my children   were in the book I was also on the parent advisory  group to bring up what Miss Mlin had brought   earlier they helped decide policy and see where  the studies are going I mean at one point we had   to get they literally got rid of the electronics  in the vote because it jobs weren't there anymore   and they leaned more heavily on programming.  So with the you're being one voice out of 13   communities and Malden has always been strong with  the Vulcan and going forward I I'm leaning towards   more only because of the fact he's been doing  this. He's been a teacher, he's been an admin,   he's been a school committee member. uh he's not  afraid to speak what's on his mind and I'm not   taking anything away from Mr. Salazar because

058he's  basically done the same thing but I just think I'm   looking at more experience with Lenny than I am  with him. So I mean it's it's a tough they're both   very good candidates and uh um it's going to be a  tough choice to me. I'm still really not sure but   I I think we got to work it out for us. Thank you,  Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Any other um members? If I might just from the chair, both presentations  tonight were excellent. You made uh Malden proud.   I think from where I come from, it's just that  I have a lot of experience serving alongside Mr.   Ryabino as a member of the school committee and  that was after him serving in the Malta public   schools for decades. So, and he was there for both  the good times

059and the bad times. He was the vice   chair actually for several years uh with us. So,  to me, we're filling a vacancy. Remember that. And   so, to me, it would make sense to have someone of  Mr. Ayavino's caliber to fill the vacancy. Uh Sean   Salazar has already indicated tonight he intends  to run for full term. I think we ought to give the   entire community uh that opportunity to do that.  I mean, based on what Mr. Salazar said tonight,   he has my vote, but I think right now we just  want to get through filling the vacancy. So,   that would be from where I come from. Again, I  wish we could vote for both because they were   really that good. But um for me the edge is  just having served with Lenny and knowing the   kind of

060person he is. That's what would earn  my vote for him. Uh seeing no other lights,   the motion's been made. It's been seconded. Uh  so why don't we take this up first? So let's have   the clerk call the role. Yeah. It's to uh have  Mr. Aino fill the remaining time on the vacancy. Did you have a question? I I just want to  um one, two, three, four, five, six. Yeah,   we'll cross that bridge. Okay. I I just I I'm I'm  always confused when we do these votes because   if a a tie fails Yeah. Correct. We'll cross that  bridge. Okay. Okay. I'm just uh Yeah. All right,   Madam Clerk. Oh yeah, there is nine. You know  what? Because Mr. McCarthy, that's what I was   thinking. There's nine of us normally and  then with um council president, but

061okay. Madame clerk, go right ahead. Mayor Christensen,   Lenny Ayino. Mr. Drum. Council Lahan. Mr.  Salazar. Miss Vataphora. Mr. Aino. Miss   Mlin. Mr. Salazar. Miss Hordy. Mr.  Salazar, Mr. Piaza, Mr. Mr. Ozyberg. So, what's the vote? So, the  vote is Oh, sorry, Mr. Bernard. I know. Sorry. And again, no disrespect to Mr.  I respect him and his years of service. Mr. I   apologize, Mr. Bernard. I'm out of I'm out of  schedule here. Um, so it still would pass would   would not pass. And the vote is it was 623. Six  to three. Okay. All right. So now let's entertain   another motion. Actually, I think uh Mr. Salazar,  why don't we do this everyone? If this We should   have said name. We should. I know. I know,  right? But let's um now that that's happened,   let's just make

062it unanimous. All right. Is there  a motion uh to make it unanimous for Mr. Sal? So,   Miss Bapor, seconded by Miss Roseberg. All right.  So, uh Madame Clerk, let's go around again. This   would be for Sean Salazar. Mayor Gresensson. Yes.  Councelor Lahan. Yes. Mr. Drum. Yes. Miss Faphora,   yes. Miss Mlin, yes. Miss Hardy, yes. Mr. Piaza,  yes. Mr. Bernard, yes. Miss Roseberg. Okay. So,   that carries unanimously. All right. So,  welcome. Uh, the next step, Miss Bapor. Next step would be to notify our city clerk. Okay.  Um, and I I'm assuming she will work with you on   the swearing in and and getting you um situated  with um the other members of the Northeast Metrop.   Thank you. Very good. Uh motion to adjourn. Motion  by Miss Roseberg, seconded by Mr. Drum. I think   second by Miss

063Horty. She's already All right.  Miss Horty. Miss Horty seconded it. All right.   Let's call the role. Mayor Christensen. Yes, Mr.  Drum. Yes, Mr. McCarthy. Miss Bataphora. Yes,   Miss Mlin. Yes, Miss Hordy. Yes, Mr. Piaza.  Yes, Mr. Bernard. Yes, Mr. Rosberg. President   Lan. Yes. Yes. All right. The school  committee is hereby adjourned. Thank you.

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