001Call to order. Hi everybody. Welcome to the September 15th back to school school committee meeting. It's nice to be back in the library. We'll get started. Committee meeting on August 18th 2025 accounts paid payable and refund warrants number eight nine ten and eleven signed by mrs. Kristin McEachern as proposed second 4.1 policy LBA. All right. We have policy LBA before you and Meredith Erickson is here to talk a little bit about this. THIS IS A POLICY THAT HAS COME OUT FROM THE STATE. IT'S NOT ONE WE'VE HAD BEFORE. IT IS ABOUT CTE PROGRAMS FOR US SPECIFICALLY THE TECH VOLK IN HANOVER. AND I'LL LET MARIANNE EXPLAIN. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A FIRST READING OF A POLICY THAT WAS FIRST REQUESTED THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF SOME NEW REGULATIONS. back in the spring by the
002board of elementary and secondary education so we belong to the south shore votec and are a member district in that and part of the regulation stated if you are a member district of a vocational tech that you are required to have a policy in how you're going to help that school communicate with your eighth graders and so this policy represents that and talks a little bit about The fact that they are welcome to provide a tour to our students They have to incur the cost of the busing But I already reached out to them to figure out how we can enact these systems and be able to support students that are interested in being able to explore these types of options So with that said there are some other pieces including making sure that we
003give access on our website So we will be able to do that. There are deadlines Held within the policy to make sure that that information is available and to really establish communication between The vo tech and our middle school faculty any questions We will host our policy online as well as the tech folks policy, South Shore and Oak Tech's policy. So there's a lot of that information. We've already, we've always done this. We've had a good relationship with them. I think the state, when they went through this vote, also had a lot of requirements for the techno vocational schools and lottery systems and all those different things. So this was kind of a universal. Catch-all for this particular policy all of the guidance is online and if you want to see more of that you
004can but this is very much exactly what that's he's looking for actually had a Parent of a current eighth grader before this, you know came to us There had been a college track prior may well still be, but it sounds like there's interest even without this additional step. So we've had two students in the recent senior class who are, told me that they're headed to, or maybe have already started their paramedic studies program, paramedic at Bayer. So yeah, it's great that we have these. I'd love to see the communication lines open and just ironically I didn't realize at the time that this policy was coming through for the middle school but I met with Paul Bellow who is the career and community director at the Vo-Tech over the summer and we're going to just make
005sure that he is in touch regularly with our guidance department at the high school. They have some really amazing courses. 200 hour courses that are available to our students whether they go to college or they don't that are free and really can give them some certifications and things so i believe mark is meeting with i mean paul is meeting with mark and brenda during the um college fair next tuesday yes so we invited him to the college fair so unless anyone has any other questions thank you to approve policy lba for first reading as proposed second All in favor? Aye. 5.1, our new student government representative, Izzy Belial. All right, Izzy Belial is here. Izzy, let me... Just read a few words from your guidance counselor at the high school. It's my pleasure to introduce
006this year's student representative to the school committee, Izzy Belisle. Izzy is a remarkable senior whose dedication to both academics and extracurriculars sets a high standard for student leadership in our district. She brings a well-rounded perspective to the committee, grounded in her wide range of experiences and genuine passion for making a difference in her school community. Izzy currently serves on the social media manager of the Medical Fields Club. Is that with Mr. Marsh? No, it's run by students, but Shara is the advisor. Oh, Shara is the advisor. Okay, great. She's a member of the Volunteer Corps and holds a position of co-president for Latin Club. She is also involved in Best Buddies, a peer mentor program fostering inclusion. and plays a vital role in peer education and student government. In addition to serving as a delegate,
007she is proud to represent her classmates here on the school committee. Athletically, Izzy is a three-season athlete, playing volleyball and tennis and captaining the ski team. Outside of school, she babysits and works for the town's summer recreation program. Academically, she challenged herself with a rigorous schedule of honors and AP courses and is a proud member of both the National Honor Society and World Language Honor Society. Her favorite subjects are Latin and English and plans to attend college next fall where she will major in pre-medicine, the goal of becoming a doctor. She also hopes to continue her athletic involvement through club sports at the collegiate level. So she brings a voice for all of the students there, has a lot of involvement. Thank you so much for joining us, and I'm glad you were able to
008make it here after your game. Sorry you didn't win the game, but it's always fun to see our student reps running in from there. events as we open our meetings. So welcome. Do you have any remarks on the opening of school? I feel like that's summed up a lot, but I think coming into this school year, we're really working on upping our school spirit. We've come in planning a lot of spirit days and all of that, and I feel like the most important thing is really just helping welcome the freshmen and coming in with a senior perspective. I feel like it's really easy to kind of make our high school family, which is definitely our goal. We don't have that much planned. right now for student government but coming in we are coming in strong
009with lots of upcoming plans for the school year have you when do you guys start like the the pieces of spirit day the walls and all kinds of things we started planning that last school year but we just had our first meeting um last week to set everything in stone so the next meeting will probably set everything for sure we look forward to hearing from you throughout the year All right, so we opened this year. I think we had a very good opening. Spent a lot of time on the strategic plan and on the UDL, the keynote speaker, come and speak to the entire staff. Both of those we did on Thursday. On Friday, we spent the entire morning going through our safety protocols and drills with... Rick Phelps, our SRO, and Sergeant Resnick, they
010do a really good job. I mean, it was, they did a really nice job for the full morning, broke out in different groups, so people got to do some real-life classroom stuff and some stuff in the cafeteria around tourniquets and other types of conversations as well as presentations. So that was a really good three hours, I think. Everyone kind of appreciated it, especially with everything that's going on. It was a very nice review. I do plan on having a standing item on the school committee agenda about the strategic plan going forward. Our next meeting, I will probably be sharing all of the different goals around the strategic plan, and then, where appropriate, we'll kind of tackle the ones that are happening and where they're headed throughout the year. Overall the opening I think has gone
011very well You know obviously working through a couple things here and there but kids have been great teachers ready to teach and The weather has been fantastic. So all those things All right, so in your packet is a brief is the audit from last from 2024, so it's a full year ago, and Warren is here to speak to that. There's not a lot to speak to. I don't believe there are any findings, but Warren, maybe you can tell us a little bit about what the audit covers, what the process is, and see if there's any questions. Good evening, everybody. So the audit is done on the end-of-year report that is given to the Department of Education. It covers everything from the classroom expenditures to the expenditures done by the town of Norwell on our behalf.
012So the health insurance, the retiree insurance and all those things and how we report everything. These days most audits are done at a distance. You upload a whole bunch of files and they have a whole bunch of questions and you've got to try to remember what you did to get those numbers. It's a several month procedure for me to put all this together. But we were fortunate enough to get no findings. So everything was performed without exception. Like I said, it covers every single penny that is spent in one way or another. One of the most difficult parts of it is actually covering all of our grant expenditures. So our IDEA grants, our Title I grants, all that. So every penny that comes through those, whether it be for payroll, expenses, classrooms, consultants. All have
013to get reviewed taking they take a look at it make sure that we are within the components and we're doing things the way it's supposed to be done so I think This marks at least four or five years in a row without a single finding or concern. So It's pretty positive Thank you very much All right, so in your packet is the proposed budget development timeline. This kind of outlines this year's different meetings that will take place. We've reviewed this here. I'll review it with the leadership team. It outlines the Congress of Councils as well as our workshops and meetings with advisory board and other groups on our final budget. Asked that you take a look at the dates see if there's anything that is problematic so we can address it before If we can
014We don't have the dates yet, you know, they're just that they're in that time frame So I will be ringing that On October 20th as a final version after leadership team looks at it, but we should be all set with that 5.5 FY25 end of year budget report. All right. So once again, Warren is here to recap our FY25 budget report. Okay. So this is the familiar report format I've used for all of our forecasts. So this is the end of year budget for June 30th, 2025. So the first thing to notice on this is we were given in 25, we were given $500,000 from the town towards the circuit breaker issue that we were having. That was a one-time deposit. All that money did get put towards circuit breaker. We did spend 100% of
015our budget. Some of the major variances really were to do with personnel. There was some technology we needed to add, the Aspen student registration portal. We did have some issues with some software through Google for ransomware. Google was the only thing that we did not have covered in case of such an emergency, so we did decide to take that on. It was a heavy year for legal with negotiations and some personnel contracts that were happening. The utilities, the gas prices significantly raised. It was a fairly cold winter and we had some employee separation. Other than that, we did know we were going to be kind of in a very tight budget situation. So we asked at the end of the year, well, from kind of the middle of the year to make sure that we
016weren't overspending any of the supplies anywhere we could cut back early in the year. We cut back as early as we could so that we could try to land the budget in a reasonable place. So these are the administration totals. So we were less than 1% variation on the budget for the administration. We were about 1.76% away through the instruction. Some of this was the personnel contracts, in fact, a large amount of it. Much of the savings came from kind of, like I said, pulling back early. We did recognize the position we were going to be in long before we got there. So we were able to make some pretty significant moves early in the year as far as, you know, somebody left, not replacing them, et cetera, et cetera. Any questions on any of
017the numbers for these? So the other school services, which is obviously medical health, transportation, food service, athletics. Again, we were within 0.7% of our budgeted number, only about $19,000 away. The operations, we did run into a few things. We had some burst pipes, we had some plumbing issues that came up that were unexpected. We had a domestic water heater at the middle school that failed that we had to replace. Other than that, we were fairly reasonable. The custodial services was a savings. We actually lost the custodial supervisor and we decided not to replace that position also. So we could try to keep those savings in-house to try to manage some of the other issues. Other than a lot more gray hair, that went okay. Employee separation was obviously significantly high and then we had the
018tuitions. So within that we landed at full fully expended budget and we'll have the circuit breaker in relation to the tuitions in a few slides. Any questions on these numbers? Do you think it's important that your utilities and the operations and maintenance also reflected that change in contract for the heating contract? Yeah, so we have been managing in our electricity and gas. We've been actually dealing in future contracts for the last several years. We knew that the markets were going to explode. One of the things we were able, I'll phrase it a different way. I think everyone's talked to somebody who's had a complete connection over the gas prices at their house recently. So we were able to avoid all of those increases that have happened over the last four or five years by being
019in the future markets. We couldn't get away from it anymore. They caught up and all their prices were where they were. So we got hit all at once with all of those small increases. We got away with it for several years, but we're living in it now. One of the large increases that we actually had in this year's budget was due to this $86,000 of overage. And that was specific to the gas contract. Within the revolving accounts, we did know in the pre-K account, we did know we were going to slightly overspend that. We had a few less kids in kindergarten this year. We knew the fees wouldn't totally cover it. So we did bring in about $652,000 in fees between preschool and kindergarten. We did expend more than we brought in this year, and
020that brought our revolving down to $78,000. We'd like to try to keep about $100,000 in there just to deal with those fluctuations so we don't have to go up and down on the kindergarten expense every year. Athletics was able to, for the first time in a long time, put a little bit of money away. They added about $8,000 to their revolving amount. Again, $40,000 or $50,000 in the athletic world, that's one scoreboard that breaks by the CCC. That's not a lot of money. Facilities for the first time since COVID, we were able to build that up slightly. That money comes from renting the facility for YMCA, for before and after school programs. That's the gyms we rent all over the district. That money goes back in to manage the software and small repairs across the
021district in the gyms and in other places that the public use and pay the fees for. And finally, the transportation. So obviously our timing is a little off with the transportation. We start collecting money in June before school ends for the next year's transportation. We were down in that account. Once we put the $138,963, we were budgeted to spend $140,000 out of fees. We didn't quite have what we needed in there. But with the money that came in this year, we actually budgeted this year to take $190,000 because with the increased buses, as you can see with $175,000 in there, we're actually a little short of that. We do have a few less kids riding the bus. I don't know whether that's just purely because of a coincidence or because of families adjusting to the
022slightly higher bus fee. So we're a little under on their ability to pay that this year, but I think we still have some fees coming in in July So I'm hoping we can get a hold of that but it was only four or five thousand the last time I checked So this is the famous circuit breaker slide Obviously, this is the falling knife that we've been trying to catch for quite a few years now With some of those early years savings and some positions that we did not refill and the $500,000 from the town for the one time, we were able to roll $928,000 of Circuit Breaker into this year. Now, the importance of that is that we received in FY25 $1.5 million. in this and that is the recommendation from the state is that
023we roll 1.5 million in order to manage this. We were able to get to 928 so we're still a little over half a million shy of what we should be rolling in this. However that puts us in a slightly better position than we've been in in some time. We are trying to get all this and manage it. As you can see with the predictions if we stay where we are over the next few years that it will start to come back down again because we will not be receiving that $500,000 from the town again. And by 28, the forecast is to be a little over $300,000 in the revolving, which would put us about $1.2 million behind schedule at that point. One of the reasons why this is favorable as well is we did increase
024the budget $250,000 through cuts last year to $1,750,000. So we did increase this area by $250,000. Our initial ask to the town for the override budget was to move that $1.5 million we budget for tuitions to $2 million. And that is the $500,000 that they gave us last year. That would actually give us that year over year. Obviously, with the failure of the override, we did have to cut back. If we cut back any more than that, we would be in a deficit, and this would hurt us very badly. every year. So we're trying really hard to kind of keep on top of this. But that is the position we're in. So we're going to keep working on it. It is important to remember if you look at the total expenditure line at the bottom
025that this does fluctuate. In the last four years we've had totals of 3.1, 3.3, 3.8, 3.3, and 3.6 is a snapshot in time just before school started. So we still need to keep our eye on that because that will continue to be a moving target throughout the year. Any other questions on this? Just in terms of, I mean, the volatility, we know that we can't control sometimes situations where kids are moving in and out of different schools. But have there been any surprises in the past couple months, or do we foresee anything changing in the next couple months that we didn't expect? The short answer that I can give you is yes, without going into any details. Obviously, you know, it's kind of a sensitive area. We don't like to get too detailed about individual
026kids coming in, but yes. And I don't think in the 13 years I've had my job that there has been a year where we have not had a surprise move-in, a surprise kindergartner show up, or parents move into town whose child is already in an outplacement that we did not anticipate. I'm not sure there's been a single year that that has not happened. I mean, ultimately, the purpose of the state telling us to revolve the receipts from one year to be available the next year is to manage that fluctuation. you could have two kids move in and cost you $600,000. That's just two kids move in. And you have to deal with that, manage that, deal with the state. There will be reimbursements, but to manage those fluctuations, this is what that money is supposed
027to be helping us doing. And by being lower than their recommendation, it's not that anything's broken or we're not going to be okay, but if that happens, we have a far more difficult time managing those fluctuations. And again, in 13 years, there has never been a year. that we have not had significant fluctuations. Essentially, the summary circuit breaker was increased. However, we're not where we need to be yet. Severance was larger than expected, especially with the overriding outpatient and some additional personnel leaving and some bumping things that happened through there. And utilities are now caught up to us. and we're paying the same higher prices that everyone else has been paying for a few years and that's another thing we're managing. Obviously the solar contract with electricity is still going well and we are still
028managing to provide a significant savings to the entire town with the streetlights, this building that we're standing in and the town hall both old and now new. Any questions? Thank you. All right, so throughout the year I plan to have an agenda item, state of the schools, just so that we can continue to kind of talk about the impact that the non-override has had from last year to this year. Next month we do, we capture kind of all our total enrollments and we capture our class sizes. We do our October 1st report and those sort of things. Traditionally, we've kind of focused on our academic classes. I think it's going to be important to focus on our elective classes as well and to get an overall sense of some of the adjustments we've had to
029make between those two areas. Also, probably have a little bit more of a clear report on our FTEs in all those different areas. So I plan to keep that there. What I would like to ask of you is if there's an area you'd like to kind of understand and hear more about, I can do my best to pull materials together for that. Some of these things we won't really have information on until the end of the school year, but we will be able to report out on quite a few things in October. As we hit some of these topics, we'll be able to focus on them at that time. So I didn't know. I wanted to put that on the agenda this time just so that you had an opportunity to be aware that I
030was doing this and feel free to send me an email or give me a call and say, hey, what is the effect that the librarians have? What is the effect literacy has had of PE? Those sort of things. Some of those things are going to take a while to have adequate data on in terms of... how they kind of affect the learning. We may not even see that in the first year or so, but we need to start thinking about how we track that information. Things that are harder to track for, you know, we need a little bit of data points, even things that are a little more concrete, like class sizes and things. But I know you said you're looking at... Yeah, there's a lot of those. There's some good stuff that we can
031put together in October that's, you know, just very clear. They just, it's pure data. some of the more nuanced stuff we would need more time with to see how that kind of flows through our different testing stuff. And when we do the class sizes, will you be able to provide the historical data as well? So you can just do the comparison? We've always done a comparison year to year, but I'm going to be asking the principals to go a little bit deeper because there's a lot of classes that we haven't talked about in the past, especially electives. Some of those areas, how those have been impacted, you know, enrollments and those sort of things. Show up in different ways in different areas obviously Physical education has been it probably hardest but it has also affected
032other electives Because the kids need classes and we take away those opportunities We don't necessarily want to go to study halls But we'll look at you know how that has fallen out how those class sizes have changed from different elective departments academic departments and We always do We always look back to 2001, 2000, 2000, 2001, and the year before. But we're going to have to do that and a few other. Just expand the list. Perfect. It might be helpful to look at the survey questions that we use, not to change them, but to understand which ones might correlate best to understanding the impact. We have the end-of-the-year survey. I think that for our students middle school and high school we have a survey that kind of focuses more on their well-being but we also have
033access to parent surveys and we might be able to focus the parent surveys a little bit in that direction to impact students and how they're able to support families and how they're able to be supported at school, but also in the process of college, things like that, the many components of what the guidance counselors do, social education. So all of those components, I think, without the support needed, probably. Or, you know, we might find that it's different than we expect, but worth looking at it. That may be a conversation for me to have with the principals and their school councils just to think about what kind of service they put up for parents in the fall and the spring. 5.7 school committee reports. I've got nothing now. Open house. I was just going to say,
034yeah, I mean, I just love the fact that the kids are back in the buildings. They've had two home football games at the high school, which it sounds like a high school event, but it really is a full community event, Friday Night Lights. I mean, the CCC is just jammed from boosters to band to cheerleaders. The multipurpose field is. borderline a wrestling event on the back, but at least it's lit and the lights are staying on, which is great. There hasn't been blood on the field, but yeah, it's just been really awesome. And then we just had open house at the high school on Thursday, so it's great to get back in front of all the teachers and get ready for the year. So yeah, it's been awesome. Yeah, open house, I felt like it
035was smooth. See all the teachers sit in the classrooms. And we have middle school this week. Middle school this week. And elementary on Thursday. Thursday. Looking forward to those. Okay, so for school committee reports for myself, so I just wanted to mention, yes, the open house was great. Also just wanted to clarify a couple of things just in regard to school committee meeting protocols. There have been some questions from residents as well as I've even had a couple inquiries from local school committees and how we... run our meetings so just wanted to provide some clarity on some of that so i just have a little statement that we put together Alright, so just wanted to address some increase I've received recently in regard to accessibility and transparency of normal school committee meetings and give a
036little clarity on meeting protocols Normal school committee is an autonomous board unlike the other town boards It governs itself and abides by all state of Massachusetts open meeting laws in addition in addition to following all desi guidelines and regulations Our meetings purpose is to conduct all school related business in the most efficient manner possible All meetings, all monthly meetings are open to the public and written minutes are published on the school website. September through June meetings are held at the public library right here, which is handicap accessible and are live broadcast with video recordings available on the school's website for future viewing as well. July and August meetings are the only ones held at the Norwell Middle School and those are not televised but still open to the public. Monthly meetings offer residents the opportunity
037for both agenda and non-agenda item public comment. Not all board meetings in town and not all other towns offer. both of those areas but we in norwell have done that for quite a while now so each resident can speak for the duration of three minutes no prior notification is required and we're able to hear your feedback thoughts and ideas although it's not structured as a q a it's really just a time for us to listen to what our residents want to share Four of the monthly meetings are considered outreach meetings and the purpose of those is to allow each school an opportunity to present its successes in its programs. So the purpose is slightly different than what we do in a normal school committee meeting where we just try and conduct all the school committee
038and school business. So at those four meetings there is no public comment but the meetings are still open to the public. everyone's welcome which is not a public comment section on those we did provide zoom links for school committee meetings when necessary obviously during covid and for quite a while afterwards we do not offer those currently in all honesty a few local towns have had some very inappropriate disruptions to their school committee meetings specifically with zoom participation so not that i think that's going to happen with our citizens here in norwell but we're just not even going to open that can of worms right now. So in addition to monthly school committee meetings, there are many opportunities to learn what is happening within the schools. For example, every spring prior to town meeting, Superintendent Kagan
039and myself, we attend a PTO meeting at each of the four schools to present the proposed budget for the upcoming year. And we do engage in a full Q&A session. So answer any question that you could possibly think to ask. We also host the Congress of Councils every October. And what that is, is a collaborative meeting of all of the school's improvement councils. And those improvement councils are actually comprised of neural residents, parents, we sometimes have non-parents. community leaders involved in those so they actually come to this October meeting and it's basically a preliminary budget meeting where we share a lot of what we feel the the school's needs are for the upcoming year and try and fit some of those things into budget line items you know should we be able to do that
040several months down the road And furthermore, depending on the initiatives of the specific school year, we often solicit residents for various committees. So last year, for example, we had the five-year strategic plan committee, which was comprised of teachers, administrative school committee. residents, parents, students. So that was quite a big committee where we invited the community to be involved. And also even on occasion if we're hiring school administrators, leadership principals, things like that, we often ask for teachers, parents to be involved in that hiring process. all right so we definitely value the opinions of our normal school community encourage anyone to reach out via email as well should there just be a specific question or a specific person that somebody wants to speak to if there are specific concerns so we have looked at all of
041our avenues for communication we do feel like they're very transparent so at this point we are going to keep all of our meeting protocols as is they do seem to be working pretty well Just want to make sure we clarify in case there were any other questions, okay 5.8 public comment non agenda items 5.9 public comment agenda items I don't mean to interrupt, but you just get asked a really long question, and I hate to ask you to repeat, but maybe not now. It's up to you in the future if you go to the microphone because we're being recorded, so anyone watching can't hear you if you... I'm sorry. Yeah, no, that's a good question. So, yeah, if you don't mind repeating, I'll be sure. I know that the town is sorry Caravot tour 256
042Pine Street the state of Massachusetts had reduced the transportation reimbursement for out-of-district placements to I believe 47% I think I'm correct in saying that but then at the end of June had had met reconvened and decided to re-up it to i believe it's 75 so i was just curious what the difference was for the town of norwell and how much more money we were getting reimbursed for from the state of massachusetts we definitely have that number sure one was 98 one was 68 or and does it hold on was 98 the total 75 but what was the 47 what was the what did we get There's two numbers and that gets rolled into the the circuit breaker Thank you, I had one other question just for clarification So the the community outreach meetings there's four
043of those per year and those are a part of the 13 regular meetings you have so there are 30% of meetings that there is no public comment I just want a clarification on that. Yes, that's accurate. Okay. Thank you all right so you have the september 5th enrollment and average class size reports uh there is an error on the class size average reports i have to talk to janice um we have different numbers at the poll for teachers we change that up so we have to recalculate that um you have your door stops which is your massachusetts general laws 2025 book They are important. More importantly, you should have your MIAA passes. All right. Everyone knows what, you know, Scott, you know what that is? I just heard. All right. Excellent. And then I do
044have a bunch of meetings with staff that are going to be making some lane changes based upon their graduate work. Those meetings are coming up this week and next. Other than that, I believe we are completely up to date. And, you know, we've got a lot happening. October 1st is a big day for us to collect a whole bunch of stuff, and we will try and move that information as fast as we can. Cut off date for the state. So the next school committee meeting is October 20th, and it is an outreach meeting. Could I just add, with those outreach meetings, so although there isn't public comment, it's one of the most valuable times to come, I will say. I've been doing this a really long time. You really find out so much about what
045is happening in the schools. The teachers come and support their students. There is a lot of specific information that if you really want to be involved and understand what's happening and where the money is going and really add to your understanding of transparency and what we're doing, I would really suggest coming to those. They're also really uplifting in many ways. worth saying, I know you might not be able to stand up and say something. At the same time, we're always available by email. My own cell phone number was on the website for years. It probably still is. But I think in terms of coming to those meetings, they're just really. Yeah, so they're my four favorite meetings of the year by far and it's an opportunity for the not only the teachers But the students
046to come and present so you just get such a different perspective of what's actually happening in the four buildings That it's one thing for Matt to tell us what's going on, but to see that the students with pride Yeah, exactly They they're the best meetings by far So for this calendar year high school is in October and Cole school is December. Okay, and then November's And then one thing I forgot to add, on Monday, a week from today, on the 22nd in the afternoon, we are having a ribbon-cutting ceremony for the outdoor classroom at the middle school. That'll be at 2 o'clock. 2.20. 2.20. That's the 22nd. 2.20 on the 22nd. Yes. Yes, that's how we'll remember it. 2.20 on the 22nd at the middle school at the actual outdoor classroom. Yes. Great. And that's
047from the John Heughan Foundation, for those of you that weren't aware that he completed that beautiful ultra-classroom. With a lot of help from Glenn and Shane. All right. Thanks, everybody.