Hanover County School Board Meeting: August 8, 2023

001foreign good evening everybody it's 702 we'll go ahead and call the meeting to order before we start this part of the session I'd just like to read in accordance with policy 1-6.9 electronic participation in meetings from remote locations Miss Whitney Welsh will participate in my telephone this evening from Emerald Isle North Carolina due to family travel I will also say that Ms Hawkins will not be in attendance this evening due to a personal family issue and with that Mr Hunley do we have a motion yes Mr chair I move that we return to open session is there a second a second any discussion all those in favor of returning the Open Session say aye aye all opposed and Mr Hunley do you ever follow on certification motion yes Mr chair uh I'd like to move

002that we certify the content of our closed session okay is there any is there a second a second is there any discussion all those in favor are certifying our closed session uh in accordance with uh therefore be resolved at the Hanover County School Board certifies that do the best of each member's knowledge only public business matters lawfully Exempted from open meeting requirements by Virginia law were discussed in the executive meeting to which this certification applies and only such public business matters as were identified in the motion convening the executive meeting were heard discussed or considered all those in favor say aye aye I all opposed the motion carries at this time I would ask that we all join me for a moment of silence for the recent passing of Dr Lloyd C Jones Dr Jones

003who had a career in Hanover began in 1984 serving in multiple roles including principal at Patrick Henry High School in 1998 he retired as assistant superintendent of instructional leadership our thoughts and prayers are with the Jones family and the Hanover Community I ask that you now join me in a moment of silence in honor of Dr Jones thank you our invocation this evening will be given by Mr red followed by our Pledge of Allegiance which will tonight will be led by Mr eichenberry let us pray heavenly father thank you that you have chosen Hanover County as a home for us I ask that you give us wisdom and understanding as members in this community and as Leaders on this school board give us boldness to be identified as your people with a willingness to take

004your truth into our homes and into our schools we ask that you Deliver Us from every expression of evil intended to disrupt your purposes for our families Empower us as a school board member to be faithful ambassadors of your grace and truth and to serve our community with Integrity this is my prayer for us tonight amen amen I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you Welcome to our first meeting here in the Board of Supervisors room and we appreciate you coming tonight and hope you didn't get lost and go to the school board office then have to drive over here I do want to take one point of privilege and

005acknowledge that Mr George Sutton our immediate past member of our school board is in attendance tonight Mr Sutton it's always an honor to have you with us sir first on our agenda tonight will be the approval of minutes do I have a motion to approve the minutes as presented so moved Mr red is there a second second second for Mr Hundley is there any discussion on the motion to approve the minutes all those in favor of approving the minutes as presented say aye aye aye aye all opposed motion carries and at this time we come to our section for recognition and announcements and Dr Gill I think this is uh us it is actually I'll turn it right back to you Mr chair as uh I'll let you do the honors down yeah you want

006me to join you okay I ask that Mary Beasley please come forward to be recognized tonight hi Miss Beasley welcome I just want to greet you thank you okay here Dr Gill you're with you whereas Mary C Beasley has served Hanover County public schools with distinction beginning September the 1st 1973 when she began her employment as a bus driver and whereas Mary C Beasley during her tenure with the transportation department has always exhibited the highest level of dedication and professionalism evidenced by her contributions in fostering positive relationships with Hanover County students parents and family and whereas Mary C Beasley has been a valued colleague and friend to the countless staff in Hanover County by providing Safe Transportation for students over the course of your tenure and whereas the member of the Hanover County School Board

007do hereby Express their sincere appreciation to Mary C Beasley for her dedicated service with gratitude and congratulations on her many many years of service providing students transportation to and from school daily for the last 50 years now therefore be it resolved that the Hanover County School Board shall hereby offer our expression of gratitude to Mary C Beasley for her service to Hanover County be it further resolved that a copy of this resolution shall be incorporated into the minutes of the school board's meeting of August the 8th 2023 and shall be delivered to Mary C Beasley by the school board on August 8 2023. and with that congratulations [Applause] Dr Gill said a rose between two Thorns here for sure congratulations thank you [Applause] Mr chairman to an outstanding coach from Atlee High School who was

008named the vhsl class IV lacrosse coach of the year for the second year in a row he led the Raiders to their second consecutive State title finishing with a perfect season going undefeated please join me in congratulating coach Fielding Crawford [Applause] all right [Applause] Mr chair this is a little bit unorthodox because typically as you know Mr Whitley is doing all of the readings but in this particular case we are honoring Mr Whitley and his team and so that would be a little awkward wouldn't it so I will do the honors uh Mr chair Mr members of the board and to our our citizens who have joined us the hcps communications team has recently been recognized at the highest level nationally each year the national school public relations Association or Inspira for short recognizes School

009divisions throughout the United States who produce outstanding Communications materials as part of this year's competition the hcps communications team won an award of Excellence the highest award class in the social media category for the weekly Hanover strong social media campaign one of only 24 Awards of Excellence bestowed this year for that category among School divisions in the United States the videos which resulted in significant Community engagement throughout our County and Beyond students teachers staff families and community members who make our School Division and Community special upholding our long-standing tradition of Excellence to date the Hanover strong videos have been viewed by more than a half million times in addition to this honor Inspira also recognized the communication team's live stream of our annual Hanover salute ceremony which celebrates and honors our graduating seniors who are

010entering the U.S military upon graduation with an honorable mention in the category of internally produced video These two achievements represent the communication team's 5th and sixth national awards among a host of other Regional Awards with that we'd like to congratulate the members of our team Mr Brian capaldo Rebecca Holbrook Justin Mattingly and Chris Whitley there you go congratulations does she have a license to use that thing working on it thank you thank you Justin I guess you can't take your own Whitley on the side there we go absolutely Christina's going to make it happen is she one of your interns yeah folders all right [Applause] Mr chair this concludes staff recognition and announcements and this is the time that is reserved for any board member recognition and announcements okay thank you Dr Gill are there

011any board members that would like to be recognized to say anything Mr Mr Steve sorry Mr eikenberry Mr Bob okay now I'd like to recognize a couple accomplishments that happened in the Eastern Corridor over the course of the last several weeks and actually months Carter Trice is a Lee Davis High School grad now Mechanicsville but luckily Davis to go to Old Dominion and take his baseball skills and academic skills and ended up his last two years playing ACC Baseball at NC State and since then he was drafted by the Chicago Cubs and is playing rookie ball right now in Arizona so I think that's a pretty pretty tall order for Mr Trice and just so happened I happened to teach his older brother Adam who went to VMI for a year and said oh it's

012not for me but that's okay I can understand that and then also Meg lavender from she's a senior at Mechanicsville high school and she is the first uh she's a representative for the first T golf tournament which is at Pebble Beach that will be happening soon and televised over the Golf Channel and um she is it's part of the it's called the Pure Insurance championships and that's uh quite a testament to her skills and persistence to to do that so I just wanted to honor them and then just about 30 minutes ago I found out that uh Miss Fraley is over time from bus driving and since she's here she's a daughter of Miss Beasley who we just honored I feel like uh thank you for your service Miss Fraley and uh I appreciate all

013your work for 30 plus years yeah thank you thank you thank you Mr agubury and I do see that Meg lavender's mother is in attendance tonight and so please take that home to your daughter and give her our thanks and heartfelt uh congratulations as she goes forward in this yep thank you any other school board members Mr Hundley I'd like to recognize Mr Ed bozelli and his team you all probably know that we do a ton of school work over the summer when the students are not in school and try to get a lot of work done and currently Mr bezelli's team is overseeing the um work being done at Atlee high school and the renovations of their Auditorium so I just wanted to give a shout out to to him and his team and

014appreciation for all they do thank you anybody else I want to bring up two things uh for myself I want to acknowledge that Patrick High School had a group of students that finished in the top 15 in their age group in a federal Junior duck stamp conservation and design program there were more than 20 000 students that participated across the country in this and they had five that finished in their top 15 and I think that's a great honor so we're extremely excited to know that we have this kind of talent within our County and the other thing I wanted to point out is um I don't it's been a couple of months ago now but we we did hire a new principal for Pearson's Corner Elementary School I'm stealing one of Mr hundley's Thunder

015here from his district but uh Miss Lindsay Motley who's the new principal there she hit the ground running and did a welcome to Pearson's corner to meet the new principal with popsicles popsicles with the principal event at the school and I think that shows the level of talent that we're able to attract and bring to be our principles and our leadership in our school Division and it's a real honor to have somebody like that that's willing to do that and I understand that it was extremely well received and the community really appreciated that opportunity to get a chance and let's be honest who's going to turn down a popsicle when it's about 100 degrees outside so thank you very much for that and now we'll move on Dr Gill to the approval of the consent

016agenda yes Mr chair there are five items under your consent agenda this evening you have the Personnel items that you heard earlier this evening in closed session you have the annual authorization of the superintendent to reassign staff approval of the committee assignments the board committee assignments for the next year as well as approval of the committee membership and the annual approval of the student and adult meal prices Mr chair thank you Dr Gill is there any discussion from the board members the chair um Mr I'd like to remove the committee appointment um okay for the CTE committee because that has not been completed at this point okay so we'll remove it from the uh it only takes one person they removed it from the consent agenda so it'll come off and then you want to

017move to action or you want to delay it deferred a month delay it until next month okay we'll defer it a month then okay so the one item comes off and so now we only have four items thank you Mr Ed is there any further discussion okay I'll accept a motion to approve the four items that are left on the consent agenda I moved Mr chair I move that we approve the consent agenda as uh modified thank you is there a second we have a second from uh Mr eckenberry any further discussion all those in favor say aye aye aye aye all opposed the motion carries next on our agenda Dr Gill I believe it's our public comment section so I will read the procedures for our public comment and uh and we'll jump right

018into it anything the school board conducts the public comment segment of its meeting to receive information from the general public on matters related to the Hanover County Public Schools per School Board policy the total time allotted for public comment shall not exceed 60 Minutes speakers addressing the school board are requested to follow these guidelines a speaker as each speaker is recognized by the chairperson or the vice chair the speaker is asked to clearly State the speaker's name magisterial district and the subject of the speaker's remarks speakers are asked to address their comments to the board and not to the audience the board requests that the audience refrain from responding to speaker's comments with Applause or any other audible expressions of approval or disapproval the time Allied for each speaker shall be three minutes each speaker's

019elapsed time will appear on the screen speakers will also receive notification from the vice chair when time has expired although the board does not permit the use of slideshows or other projected materials during the segment speakers are invited to provide printed copies of each each such materials to the board and the board expresses its appreciation for the Public's input and cooperation during this segment of the meeting and at this time I will turn it over to Mr Vice chair thank you Mr chair um first tonight speaking is uh Dottie Walsh followed by Marianne Pugh good evening my name is Dottie Wallace to Beaver Dam District these bees should be about the students teachers in the community and the school system everyone has a right to their opinion but they are limited to how men can

020speak within a 60-minute time frame the man that spoke before me on June 23 school board meeting talked about God made man and woman does not have anything to do with the Hanover School System it takes away someone else's time to speak experience diverse ways of life reading promotes empathy and social emotional growth and could help someone heal from trauma don't you want that several spoke about their own trauma and how the books have helped them heal students have spoken about not to ban the books you chose but you did not listen has a board read each Banned Book in its entirety I would bet money the answer is no I'll be reading the banned books my first one I got this weekend was tilt I hope the students do the same the freedom to

021read is granted by the U.S Constitution and Protect by the first and fourth amendments the First Amendment production of freedom of speech requires that reading materials not be censored the right to read also requires that reading choices be private and not result in repercussions their freedom to read is essential to profession of the free of society and creative culture Publishers and Librarians have the responsibility to make it possible for readers to choose freely from a variety of offerings parents can make the choice of what their child can read but not take the right to read from others to quote George Washington if freedom of speech was taken away then dumb in silence you may lead like sheep to slaughter to quit Abraham Lincoln those who deny freedom to others deserve it not themselves we need

022Equity advisory boards with diversity on the Hanover website States Equity is a meaning students where they are and providing the resources tools and supports they need to maximize their potential so now you don't want them to reach their potential which is shown by your previous actions of banning books what is equity the term Equity refers to fairness and Justice and distinguish between equality where equality means provide the same to all Equity means recognize that we'd all not start from the same place and must acknowledge and adjust imbalances there's a lot of learning to be had and you need to work on your growth where do you set examples for the students on learning would you not want to learn and grow yourselves we've become like the small town of Beaumont from Footloose where closed minds

023of a Town Council the store line was based on a true story in Elmore City Oklahoma in 1979 never my wildest dreams I'll be looking through the same eyes of Rand McCormick played by Kevin Bacon the struggles and frustrations dealing with the situation of the sport it boggles a mind but the same as the film there is hope for change it's possible with your help what do you want your legacy to be you need to be able to evolve and let your students do the same so please be the positive change and reflect what's going on with all students in your school system of color of lbdq everybody thank you thank you foreign Pugh followed by Kristen holty good evening from Southern and I've come to speak on the book Banning I'm going to use

024this book sold by Patricia McCormick one you have been as an example of why Mass Banning of books is wrong I know you don't like the word band but no matter how you and Bill Clinton parse meaning you have banded where you have jurisdiction the book is about a 13 year old child who was sold into sex slavery by her stepfather while her submissive mother watched The Story begins in Nepal but could have started at a truck stop in Ashland or Hanover it is written at a sixth grade reading level and told Through The Eyes of a sexually naive but very resilient child I read it it's a difficult topic but your friends the moms for Liberty are wrong there is nothing salacious or print in this book we all want to protect our children

025from the evils of the world but we succeed in protecting them when we do not hide the world from them but when we give them the resources such as this book and guided experiences to teach them to take care of themselves my 16 year old granddaughter tells me she read this book when she was in sixth grade she says she gained understanding about a serious problem empathized with its victims and began to wonder how she could be of help in solving the problem she wants me to assure each of you that she was not scarred she read it on the recommendation of her teacher she goes to a public school in a state where teachers and students have more freedom than they now do in Hanover because of your actions her teacher would have felt

026gagged and Ellie would not have had the Liberty to access this book and the learning she gave gained from it if she were in school here in Hanover the bigger wrong though is that traffickers benefit when there is less awareness of the problem in suppressing this book the moms for Liberty were became complicit with the moral atrocity of sex slavery this example speaks to why you're Banning of books was wrong there are long-range consequences to what you have done after your vote even my little corner of the internet I saw three Educators from other districts trying to poach our Hanover teachers I hope you have the wisdom and the grace to overturn your decision thank you for your attention thank you Kristen holty followed by Yale Levin my name is Kristen holty and I'm out

027of the Cold Harbor District I am being sincere truthful honest blunt and in my own personal and on my own personal mission of purpose first of all I've seen a video out there that shows the pictures and the books that are being eliminated from the children area and it is definitely for mature audiences only I mean it is disgusting even for me a mature woman I mean I totally agree with those books being eliminated from the children area of the school libraries because totally inappropriate um I believe the Hanover County residents should be totally aware of what is going on in this County evil is powerless if the good or unafraid I morally dislike hypocrisy and deceit which I have personally witnessed the last two years coming from some of the uh lobbying groups the

028lobbying group seem to want to normalize the sexualization of children and sacrifice the innocence and vulnerability of children for their ideology the Democrats liberals want to turn Hanover County into Lawton County evidently first I want to thank Hanover County school board for dissolving the community Equity Advisory Board I believe in equality but not Equity those who have the ambition motivation dreams should be able to accomplish being a doctor lawyer engineer Etc without being held back by an equity system I sure as an adult would not want to be examined by a doctor that was not fully vetted and had the qualifications to do an examination just before the color of their skin I would want them to be fully educated secondly please please support and comply with the governor Jenkins new model policies please keep

029parents involved don't California my Virginia and do not Lawton County my Hanover County I am Virginia libraries are for everyone which was designed by an anti-christian group that calls Christians terrorists I do not trust the Librarians to put the books in the appropriate age areas all I want is for the age-appropriate books to be in the safest areas for children not be confused by their content I saw a sound of freedom and it documents how easy it is for children to be preyed on when they're confused as to a book's contents so with these books that they keep talking about that will educate the children it gives pedophiles and sex traffickers a way in to prey on the children secondly I also want the Hanover I I pray that the Hanover County School Board will

030continue to stay appointed because Soros money would flood into the county at the school board were voted to be elected thank you thank you for letting me speak thank you yeah 11 followed by Pat Hunter Jordan good evening board members senior staff my name is Yaya Levine and I'm the Ashland District Mr eikenberry I apologize lfd out last month when thanking the board members who have served our country I want to thank you for your many years of service in the United States Air Force it is truly heartwarming to see we have several board members who served dedicated or dedicated to continued service to our country and our community does this work I was looking at the various advisory committee reports and one suggestion I would like to make is that we all want more

031transparency and we would appreciate if these committees would take official minutes in their at their meetings and for those minutes to be published and be readily available for all taxpayers these periodical high-level reports are very nice but that is just that a high level report in addition it would be nice if these periodical reports included data so that we can see the trends over time I would like to thank our new chair Vice chair of the entire board and the senior staff for listening to our entire community and moving the meeting to this building it is wonderful to finally be able to be present to see our wonderful teachers and students and bus drivers receive their Awards and recognitions rather than to have to wait outside and wait to hear only about it to only

032hear about it on social media I'm excited for the New Direction this board appears to be going in it's a direction of listening to and hearing everyone in the community yet making decisions based on facts and data rather than emotions or political agendas there is much commotion in the community about the upcoming ballot referendum with regards to an elected versus appointed school board and I would like to point out how grateful we should all be to live in a country where we can actually all have a say in such matters while I personally disagree with some of the votes that some of the members in this board not the new ones have taken I do want to I do appreciate that none of the members of the board have had to spend their time and

033focus away from our children on getting reelected and instead I'm grateful that none of the members on this board are beholden to any special interests groups lastly you get it to have a break for me for the next couple of months because I will be starting the Hanover um Sheriff's Office citizens Police Academy something I've been waiting for for a long time and I'm very excited about um so I will miss coming to these meetings and sharing my input with you but I know that so many of our community members are committed to keeping you accountable and I'm very grateful to all that you do thank you and have a blessed night thank you Pat Hunter Jordan followed by Charlie Hogue this is Charlie Hogue here oh there you are thank you sir good evening

034good evening Pat Hunter Jordan from the Kohler Harbor district and before I begin I want to just say congratulations to Miss Beasley who has taken care of my sons and my grandsons during those 50 years and I have never had to worry about them so I thank you thank you for that today I want to talk a bit about the the books the books that you're Banning the the school board provides should be providing resources for our children and there is a definite reading Gap for those who have less resources and those who have greater resources but you want to remove books in some instances the only thing that will entice a non-reader is a book that you may say is a bit of color well with that if that choice is a book of

035color or helping a kid to learn to read then I think you should err on the side of that with the parents permission that we allow them to read books that will interest them this board is funny strong punishment more so than providing mental health we see the newest punishment scale that you've put out of what will happen to a child well this seems to me to be like the prison the school to pipelines prison pipeline where you punish punish punish until we send them off to reform school I would like us to fix that and to focus more so on issues that can help them learn what is correct a lot of people say well you get up and quote scripture all the time I've been accused of that on some of your friends

036Facebook pages and I said yes I do that because this board has what is a Christian world view to rule over everybody whether they are Christian or not and so I say to you if you have experienced God's grace and all of you should have and his love in your life why do you still struggle to demonstrate that same Grace to others that is what we should be about this board talks about consensus well I I say also to you that if I don't believe in something I am not going to go along with it for the sake of consensus 30 seconds we in Hanover County have accepted your appointments it is now time for us to get an elected School Board because you refuse to listen to your constituents a perfect example is Gandhi

037the naming of that was the most recent time thank you thank you ma'am Charlie Hogue followed by Nancy mcquiston did I get it right oh no sorry um Charlie Hogan in the Ashland District and this is regarding uh school-based Health Centers and minor consent and these are red flags really and red flag number one is uh there are a Federal agenda to rapidly expand the use of school-based Health Centers throughout America traditionally schools have used School nurses to treat emergency and first aid situations illness and injury while the child is at school recently there's been a rapid increase in the expansion of the school-based health centers these clinics are intended to replace pediatricians and provide primary care services within schools as a medical home for a child but in Harvard Center for Health law and

038policy Innovations recent pamphlet sbhcs are being sold as the most effective tool for overcoming parents as a barrier to vaccination proving even more effective than vaccine mandates for School attendance this is red flag number two minor consent s are writing laws to allow minor children to consent to medical procedures without parental consent and sometimes despite parents open objections this is bad policy in the least and plant seeds of distress between parents and their children Integrity of the family unit must be protected at all costs by the parent public policy markers and all involved in the care of children thank you thank you Nancy MC Houston thank you and Charlie Waddell hello and thank you for time to share my concerns with you tonight my name is Nancy mccuston I live in the Pearsons Corner neighborhood

039in Mechanicsville which is located in the Beaver Dam District I am a retired Hanover County school teacher and Taunton County full-time for 30 years not as long as Ms Beasley I'm I'm here tonight to ask for your support to inform our Hanover County Planning Commissioners and the Board of Supervisors that you wish to have them deny the conditional use permit applications for sheets that is planning to be built it behind the Pearson's Corner neighborhood this land is currently Zone B2 and the landowner and sheets have the right to build on the land as is if sheets only wants to put up eight fueling stations but sheets wants four more fueling stations so that's why they've have applied for a conditional use permit we have met with the sheets Representatives twice once in May and another

040time in July and at both meetings members that attended the meetings while the residents and committee members did Express their concerns of the potential risk of having the sheets built so close to a residential area and one of these risks is traffic and how this is going to affect our the transporting of our students to and from schools there are going to be there are six County schools within a one mile radius of where this sheets is located two of the schools are Pearson's Corner Elementary and Kersey Creek Elementary Oak Knoll middle school and then three high schools we have Georgetown School the Hanover High School and and I hope I get this right the the Hanover School for trade and Technical uh right in with this area and I see several risks about when

041we have the sheets being built currently they're building Caldwell across the street Caldwell Park and both of these are going to have um generate a lot of traffic in this area up to about 3 000 additional cards could be going in and out of these roads around this area the Caldwell Park We Can't Stop but we can stop the sheets because they have not started building it I see um a traffic nightmare if this sheet is ready to be built if the sheets is allowed to be built it will greatly increase problems of traveling on these roads 30 seconds this can cause traffic hazards for the parents of school-aged children or bus drivers who are transporting our students to and from the sixth County schools that are close and also the many high schoolers who

042choose to drive to school not not even included in the employees again I hope that you will support me in asking the county leaders to deny sheets conditional use permit application cup to 2023-006 due to the many traffic hazards that will occur I think this large gas station is built thank you ma'am thank you Charlie Waddell followed by Katie James Mr good evening Mr chairman Katie James here sorry no Nicholas Vogel this is Nicholas Vogel here Sanjeev Kumar saxena okay you're on Deck thank you I hope you're not sitting at their other location we're live streaming so they can catch us yeah thanks for your patience not a problem sir thank you for hearing me Mr chairman members of the board Dr Gill members of the school board staff parents fellow citizens I'm Charlie Waddell

043I live in the historic Henry District I'm a retired computer consultant but I now self-identify as a substitute teacher in Hanover School Systems I've performed a review of the Virginia Board of education's model policies on ensuring privacy dignity and respect for all students excuse me and parents in the Virginia Public School System 2023 the board of education's model policy mandates are fair well-reasoned and employ a wealth of Common Sense the board of education's policy is also legal and Justified the policy is replete with U.S constitutional Virginia constitutional Federal and Virginia statutory Authority that defines and outlines their freedoms and protections of the rights of parents as well as students additionally this policy mandates actions for the protection of students it is replete complete and is worthy of adoption by the Hanover County School Board I

044ask that you adopt by reference these policies for all Hanover County students and parents I also noticed that some of your policies are more are tighter than some of the model policies I would leave the cleaning up to that of that to the attorney for the school board as you're manifestly aware a child's welfare is the responsibility of the parents until they're 18 or until they're emancipated a company in this responsibility is Authority parental Authority that cannot and should not be usurped by anyone outside of the legal process this Authority must be respected I noticed that this new policy acknowledges parental rights and making decisions on raising and educating their children and parental involvement in the students education the 2021 model policy shamefully disregarded and attempted to abrogate parental rights the model 2023 policy aptly

045States empowering parents is not only a fundamental right but is also essential into improving outcomes for all children families play a critical role in helping youth in high school and Beyond the model 2023 policy also details a sample policy for local school boards this policy is an excellent approach to address the need to ensure safety and respect for all students in fact the term respect occurs 15 times in that model policy 30 seconds thank you sir Hanover County Educators and counselors must focus on academics over activism those who choose activism are in the wrong profession those who ignore the tenets of this sound and well-reasoned 2023 policy seek to promote a harmful and deceitful agenda any secretive program is beyond the mission of the Hanover School System we need to get back to academics and

046drop activism thank you sir thank you Sanjeev Kumar saxena and Mark killingstad thank you good evening board members and staff my name is Sanjeev saxena and I live in Ashland County I'm father of two who two kids who go to the elementary school the topic I have chosen is to bring your attention for the nutrition so we are vegetarians and I think lot of other people may be having that kind of Lifestyle like about nine o'clock and then they stay there till four and during lunch time they do things that I want to bring attention to number one is the quality of the food I'm not saying it is better but I think it can be improved and the only way you can learn about the quality is to take the survey at the point

047of delivery not at the point when actually it has come into the kitchen so Random service just like in the hospital social workers do and go directly into the patient room second thing is the quantity I learned from my kids who are always my you know first responder and they say that they normally give every day the the yogurt and the fruits and vegetables that is given in a very small quantity and that looks like stale if I have your permission I can show you what the quantity is I can just for the visualization purpose so if I bring this thing so 80 percent of this just that's the lunch okay so second thing I want to say that Hanover we are blessed to be in Hanover County where we have several forms why do

048we give um I think they say still my guess is that they are giving the canned food so why do they give canned food and vegetables when we have Farms over here it will support our local farmers economy and then give the healthy food to the kids last thing I want to bring to the attention that a lot of people that I have spoken to in America and I'm here since 19 is 1991 32 years now originally from India that I know that I asked very simple question you talk about the malnutrition in other countries do you know in America we have malnutrition do you know the basic definition of nutrition and I'm in health field since 15 years so the basic definition of nutrition for those who know but those who do not know

049is you know the vitamins and minerals and then you can add the phytonutrients to that but the balanced food will include the the poultry and meat and other things 30 seconds thank you sir uh so the only the fruits and vegetables can give you the the what I said the nutrition and the phytonutrients come also come from the the vegetables so I I would like you to consider it in the coming year and for others even though somebody is not having the vegetarian lifestyle it will still give them some healthy things to balance them thank you very much for your attention thank you thank you Mark killingstad followed by Debbie Agliano is she here okay thank you good evening board thank you for allowing us the time to speak Mark killing stats in harmony District

050first I just got to address I love this whole thing about book Banning I've missed the bonfires um where are they I haven't seen a single book get banned I've seen them removed from high school or from school libraries that doesn't mean they were banned that means that someone has to go to a different source to find them in which case if we're going to put those books back in then I'd also like to see uncensored copies of books by Harriet Beecher Stowe um oh I don't know maybe maybe see Huck Finn back in the library again uncensored with all of its language that was removed um maybe we can put some white nationalist stuff in there too I don't know I'm not one but I'm sure there's somebody in the county that is that

051would love to see that literature in our high school libraries you know as well as I do that's insane and it doesn't belong there and if the literature doesn't belong in a school library then get rid of it it can go somewhere else if Mom and Dad want their kids to have it then Mom and Dad can provide it for their kids if Mom and Dad can't afford to provide it to their kids there's enough organizations out there that are more than happy to groom their child for them I don't need the government school system grooming my child okay oh moving on curriculum if we got back I heard it stated this evening that we're setting up a system that we're going to move kids from school to a penitentiary why is that because they

052can't read they can't write they don't know how to do research and they can't do math so if the math isn't mapping we got to fix something which means fix the curriculum don't proficiency Advance somebody because well they've been here too long they're 20 years old and they're a sophomore we got to move them along now no you set the goals and you teach them no more common core get back to Fanatics get back to the basics of math okay I don't know how you guys learn math I'm pretty sure it was probably much the same as me groups of ten carry over and borrow learn learn the multiplication table so you know them by heart so that you can then put them into society once they've graduated and they can be productive if they

053choose not to be productive then that's on them but you got to give them the tools if you don't give them the tools then once again us as parents are going to have to identify as substitute teachers and do the job that the government school was supposed to do for us 30 seconds thank you sir don't groom our kids teach them get the garbage out of the libraries school lunches some of it's good so if it's not but it needs to be fixed too you guys have got a lot of work to do we're depending upon you to do that work so we can keep from having an elected School Board because I don't need somebody else's money buying seats on a school board all right you guys have a good night thanks thank you

054sir Debbie Agliano followed by Billy Agliano hi Debbie Agliano from the South Anna district and I'm here to talk about a guidance counselor at Hanover High School do something with your life that will make a mediocre white man Angry these are the words of the counselor in Hanover High School that she posted on Facebook as a public post on June 3rd now she has the right to her opinion and her Free Speech but Hanover schools and the HR department have a responsibility to protect our children and the staff the students have a right to have a school counselor who's not gender biased the students have a right to have a school counselor who doesn't use discriminatory language Miss sharp has demonstrated that she lacks professional discretion Miss sharp is not the leader and authority figure

055that our students should strive to emulate and admire she certainly has no business counseling male students and I certainly wouldn't want my daughter with her as well and I wonder if she would have made this post if she knew there were professional repercussions there is a 31-page document called code of student conduct is there a code of professional conduct because I searched and I could not find it so I urge the administration an HR and the school board to determine if Ms sharp should remain a counselor in our school system and in addition I support your decisions with books and the equity committee thank you thank you Billy Agliano followed by Bob Seifert it's good evening thanks for uh having us um I really don't want to be here I'm speaking on the same thing

056my wife did I apparently I'm a mediocre white male um years ago I built the playground at South End and my wife and another lady raised the money and I just completed donated my time again to build wings of Hope which is for horse therapy for special children I don't interrupt you but I just need to make sure you do live in this Alabama district I'm sorry South End thank you yes sir sorry I forgot the rules so I cannot believe in this day and age I know it's fashionable to hate white men but um who's next and um who's next to be fashionable to be be um you know hated or not like and especially because of the skin color um I'm okay being hated but I'm not okay with um it young men

057or women or anyone they're so fragile in middle and high school they don't need people telling them that they're lesser than someone else thank you for your time thank you Bob Seifert followed by Connie Piper good evening Bob Seifert from the Chickahominy District does everyone have the proposal ended up earlier it's uh hybl proposal number one and hybl stands for Henry's basketball league which I played in as a kid and now I'm on the board of directors four and I've got 22 23 here because I've been working on this for uh for about a year and hoping to get it to implemented for this uh winter season but the subject is to expand the Hanover Middle School basketball teams from one to three and I'm sorry the audience doesn't have the uh all the details

058here but uh I've identified a problem and it's a problem that we all know about uh I'll just read the first line here over 100 boys tried out for the chicken how many Middle School basketball team uh this past year for only 12 to 14 slots why are we excluding so many boys to engage in exactly what they need to be doing to be mentally and physically healthy okay those 80 boys that we turned down I can tell you what they're doing because I have sons that age they're going home and they're watching TV and they're playing video games they're doing bad things with their time they could be doing good things and with this proposal going from one team to three for each Middle School it's really still just one team okay and it's

059kind of an unofficial second and third team and it's much like the football program that has a Fifth Quarter that allows the sixth and seventh graders to to play in it and I can give you an example my son the sixth grader a pretty good athlete both of his brothers Varsity players up in the high school as freshmen and he didn't make single middle school team three teams he tried out four didn't make a single one and that's uh it's hard on a kid luckily he lives in a neighborhood where there's lots of kids playing outside but uh I can't imagine the kids that don't have opportunities like that the problem like I talked about we've got one in six kids with treatable mental health illnesses diagnoses and we've got 80 percent of our kids

060that are unable to join the military because they're too unhealthy and the biggest thing and I don't say it here but hopefully you feel like I do that this is the problem that we created okay the adults of today have created this problem the things that we've done the things that we've allowed and the things that we don't do we choose not to do is why we're in the situation that we're in with our children I've got the solution here I don't think you get many of those you just get a lot of complaints and there's a lot of details with this and if you don't think this will work I want you to come talk to me because I've been working on it for a year and I've talked to a lot of people

061there's a lot of Pros here mainly happier kids happier healthier kids 30 seconds and if I could just read one thing for you here to close and to think about as you're going through this it's a story from Sparta the ancient Greek city-state an old man was looking for a seat at the Olympic Games the crowd was clearly annoyed by the old man until a Spartan offered a seat the crowd applauded and the old man turned to them and said all Greeks know what is right but only the Spartans do it thank you Connie Piper followed by Jack Dyer hello my name is Connie Piper and I'm a parent and resident of the Beaver Dam District I am also the recently retired curriculum specialist for Hanover County School libraries there's much that I could say

062tonight about the revised policy 6-5.2 regarding School libraries I could talk about the chilling effect on reading that limiting access to relevant books will likely cause or I could speak about the impact of some students social and emotional well-being when the very books that could heal their trauma and help them to understand themselves are removed but instead I want to talk about professional reviewing sources because it seems that you don't clearly understand what the term means Librarians at a minimum have three graduate level courses centered on the topic of collection development with particular focus on children's literature and young adult literature additionally as teachers they have taken undergraduate coursework on the topic of Child Development since few if any of you have that level of expertise I want to clarify what professional reviewing sources are

063professional reviewing sources such as school library Journal are unbiased sources that look at newly released fiction and non-fiction titles the reviews are written by practicing Librarians who work daily with students and they are not as some have implied influenced by Publishers or authors because reviews are unbiased and not sponsored by outside organizations reviewers can honestly critique the new titles using their expertise and knowledge of the larger Canon of literature that has been written at the same level reviewers are able to make an age or grade level recommendation based on their knowledge of Child Development and other similar literature not all titles receive a positive review this expert opinion allows Librarians to make more informed decisions as they add to their school's library collection the two sources that you have added to the professional reviewing sources

064booklooks.org and booksrated.org are not professional reviews they are not written by professional Librarians who have read widely and studied collection development they are not unbiased they are sponsored by political groups who are seeking to censor books infiltrate school boards and win elections on your watch you have allowed a small group to use the political website to craft a list of books to banned books that no one has read but instead the moms for Liberty have told told you they are not appropriate you are now using this list of books to decide for all of the parents of Hanover County taking away student choice and parental control over what their students read this is in direct opposition to your stated purpose to base selection and even more importantly deselection on these sources is at best poor

065practice and at worst unethical to remove a title from all school and classroom Library collections because of out of context Snippets from slick sheets without actually reading the book in its entirety is ridiculous many of the books on the proposed list are award-winning books that have been around for years sometimes decades with no requests for reconsideration or complaints by actual readers as we prepare to start our 2023-2024 school year our Librarians and teachers are tasked with spending their valuable time pulling books to ban instead of preparing to teach and welcome our students and let's be clear that is exactly what you're doing Banning books thank you thank you Jack Dyer followed by Tina steenberg Tina here okay that's the chair board members I'm Jack Dyer Beaver Dam District I'm speaking on behalf of the Hanover

066County Republican committee and most importantly all of our Hanover children and grandchildren as indicated in our August and October 2022nd 2022 public comments although not in harmony but for the sake of rule of the law Hanover County Republican committee supported the Hanover County Schools school board's adopt adoption of the new restroom locker room facility policy written with the understanding that if ruling from a higher Corridor actions from the governor or his administration came about we would ask Hanover County School Board to review the said policies and redress accordingly given the governors and the Virginia Department of education's published final version of the 2023 model policies on privacy dignity and respect for all students and parents and Virginia Public Schools as Allowed by the code of Virginia we hereby request at Hanover County School Board immediately

067adopt at minimum these policies accordingly accordingly as acquired in doing so we request the following items outlined in appendix one sample policy be given special attention article two of the definitions that are established in the word for the words sex and transgender student in items B and C respectively item article 3 item G policy for student participation and sex Pacific school activities and events and use of this facilities provision two and our quote or state our Federal Law requires schools to permit transgender students to share sex segregated facilities such as bathrooms or locker rooms with the students of opposite sex parents shell be given the right to opt their child out of using such facilities and the child should be given access to Alternative facilities that promote the child's privacy and safety given this policy

068if reasonably possible before the school opens for the sake of transparency and consideration for the parents and the children we respectively request that all parents of Hanover County Public Schools be given specific written notification of this child opt out policy along with the appropriate require required opt-out document for their execution if they should desire to do so 30 seconds we very very much appreciate your efforts and consideration in a serious matter good evening thank you thank you Tina Steinberg I think that's our last uh person hi my name is Tina steenberg and I live in the Ashland District I have two children that graduated from Atlee High School one graduated from Virginia Tech summa laude and one graduated with honors from VCU and now has a PHD minus the dissertation I felt that they both

069received a good education at adley one international Baccalaureate and the other advanced placement if I had known that one of the counselors at Atlee had a bias against white male students I would have put them in another school every child deserves unbiased help from school counselors without racial religious or gender bias Elizabeth sharp a school counselor at Hanover High posted on her Facebook page under a rainbow the following quote do something with your life that will make a mediocre white man Angry unquote all children deserve an intellectually stimulating Education Without bias without indoctrination where they can reach their full potential every child deserves unbiased teachers and counselors that treat their students with respect and kindness Hanover County has built a great reputation for Superior schools but political wokeness is destroying that reputation no racially or

070gender biased teacher or counselor should hold a position in the Hanover County school system and I thank you for your recent decisions and Having the courage to make them thank you Mr chair that should be all of our speakers tonight Madam clerk you agree with that excellent okay thank you very much everyone for attending and participating in that and with that we'll now move on and I believe uh Dr Gill we have an instructional highlight we do Mr chair the instructional highlight this evening is our provisional Academy for teachers in Hanover or path for short as I believe the board is aware this is an initiative that started exactly one year ago and we have just started our second cohort this has quickly become the model for the state in moving provisionally accredited teachers to

071full licensure here to give an update on the first year now heading into the second year of the program as our director of professional learning Dr Steve Castle Dr Castle thank you Dr Gill good evening Mr chairman members of the board and Dr Gill I am here indeed to talk with you about the path program this evening to give you an instructional highlight and I know that in the past we've given you some information and some updates but this is a little bit more information to build upon that so the first thing I'll share with you is that the president editionite is closely connected with our comprehensive plan you can find this specifically in goal three objective two but also within that objective two you see strategy one and two and in strategy one we

072say we're going to as a suggested tactic provide professional learning opportunities that support growth and retention path program certainly does both of those things as well as in strategy number two tactic number two leverage high impact coaching to support new and experienced staff and maximize internal staff to coach Mentor path participants So within our comprehensive plan we're fully supporting the work of the path program and retaining those teachers some information for you on cohort one an update again 42 of our 43 teachers that entered into the program are returning to us as staff members this year so a retention of 96.7 percent that's pretty strong considering that we're seeing a fair number of teachers leaving the profession but in our County we're able to hold on to 96.7 for path so we're pretty proud of

073that number our administrators in the schools where they work are often describing them in the following ways they're saying they're well prepared they are some of our future leaders and they're bringing fresh perspective remember that these are the people that have never been in the profession they were not traditionally trained as a teacher in a practicum program or completed any student teaching these are folks that are coming into the profession because they have a desire to be here and they want to learn how to do this work in an amazing way and our path program is supporting that so 95.3 percent of them were officially evaluated as being proficient or highly proficient which is a very strong number again remember these were not traditionally trained teachers so moving ahead where are we this year I

074know the number there says that 22 people are entering the program well the good and the bad news number one we lost one person the night before the program started but the good news is back on that we added two people in there in this person's place are now officially at 23 as of I believe yesterday we we got the last two people added onto the program so last week they completed their first full week of training they were working for a full 40-hour week to learn how to do this work how to be the teacher working through the basic teacher 101 principles some of the names of our our educational foundational leaders that we've all learned I had to go back 20 and 30 or I won't say that long but it has been

075yeah 30 years 95 undergrad there it is you know Piaget Maslow driker kohlberg vygotsky some of the names that we may or may not remember anymore as as we learned in our training programs back in the day so those that time is spent well it's well spent with our mentors with our Specialists with other leaders in our school division that are really helping them to learn the trade and the craft that is required lots of time for reflection for learning we're talking about the the other Basics that are there below and I won't read all the things to you but it is the basic teaching 101 principles a solid full week of preparation they're not coming into their classrooms unprepared they're coming well prepared to begin and hit the ground running with their students so

076as Dr Gill mentioned we are sort of a model right now for some other places of course they want to be us because we are Hanover and we are outstanding and this program is outstanding it's one that many people want to emulate when you add the numbers of 23 plus the 43 people that we retained last year that's 66 staff members imagine that if we had 66 vacancies I think Ms Baker would be having a heart attack right now with 66 vacancies two weeks before you have kids coming back but we don't because we have this program fully supporting everyone so they do want to emulate what we have in place they they too want to retain their staff and have them be successful as we have done so some of the things that set

077us apart I won't read all the bullets there to you because you can see them for yourself but I think two of them in particular stand out one is that we're having the personal connections with our staff they're coming in and they're learning directly from the people that are the experts in the room and they make those really strong personal relationship connections that are making the difference and the second thing is that we have mentors in the schools that are seeing the teachers in action they're getting real-time feedback and they're learning to grow from any of the mistakes that they might make along the way and they're having that direct support and so these are the things that set us apart there's some school divisions that want to do this work in a year there's

078some school divisions that want to do it in two years and I feel like our program with a three-year program is very strong maybe we can trim off a little time but to try to accomplish what we've done in just one year would be a really tall task and so I feel like we're really setting ourselves apart with a high quality program so I'll um I'll give you a slide here that's an example of some of the the thinking of our brand new teachers and I want to read the first part I won't read the whole thing teaching is a profession like unlike any other before I tell you all the incredible things you'll do if you embark on this journey I have to address the elephant in the room the rumors you heard are

079at least partially true education is tough there's no way around that but even still this is a calling in which you have to hold the positive and negative intention with each other recognizing both to be true and choosing to show up for the sake of your students the truth is no job has zero downside so while you may be wary the profession of teaching is really cool at the risk of sounding super cheesy it's even sort of sacred in a way it's messy unglamorous and unassuming but sacred still those are the words that are coming from one of our cohort person who just completed the whole program last year and I love what he's written because it's all true about our profession it's tough and it takes a lot of hard work to really make

080the connections with our students but I believe our staff that support the program are doing an outstanding job in completing this work with our cohort one and two participants and so before I take your questions I will be remiss if I did not also recognize the incredible staff members that are working to make the path program successful it takes talented highly qualified individuals who are outstanding leaders and so I would like to also give some recognition to Dr Amy Thompson to Amy Jones to Jan Collins to Candace bowler into Sarah Billups who have been our strong that Superstar team of five people really making this work outstanding for our path participants so thank you to those strong leaders and at this time I'll take any of the questions that you have board members anybody have

081any questions Mr Hundley just like to commend the program to everyone what has been said tonight is true and I've I've had I'm an eyewitness to that account I was at a conference recently where a superintendent from uh Roanoke or Salem I forget um came up to me and said we're sending folks to you guys to have them look at the path program so I mean it is something that the rest of the state is is trying to to copy so I really appreciate all that you're doing with that thank you Mr attenberry Dr Castle thanks for the presentation and um to me one of the more noteworthy thing is the three-year process of so it's not crammed or anything it's a it is a process and it's a journey like you mentioned but I'm

082curious that are there any I guess trends that most of the uh people that you're working with are they going more are they more Elementary Middle High or are you seeing a quite a diverse group or because this program is was designed for secondary teachers however we also have some Elementary special education teachers mixed in as well so we've got K through 12 in essence but primarily this is designed for secondary folks and so one of the things we need to think about is that we're talking about 63 65 people-ish somewhere in there right now and if we shave off the few that are in the elementary program let's just call it 50. I had a conversation with Dr Gill and a couple of others about you know again imagining if we had that whole

083of 50 people in secondary only it kind of makes it even more impressive or you know that really in a way that's even stronger than saying K through 12 50 people it's just secondary and so we really are making a huge difference in Staffing and really providing the quality perspective that's coming from the Hanover leaders in the Hanover way that we'd like them to have when they're teaching okay thank you Mr Coleman yes great presentation thank you um the backgrounds of these path participants is there a common oh wow [Music] yes sir um you know they're they're from many different walks and experiences we've had people that have been career business owners that have made a shift to come into the path program and decide hey I'm going to teach we've had people that have

084never you know this is really their first kind of quote unquote real job coming into our program we have some folks that have done some substitute work have done some long-term sub and have fallen in love with the profession and being in our classrooms and now want to teach and path is a great fit for them so I would just say to you it's a smorgasbord of a lot of the different people with different experiences and backgrounds and certainly adding to some great perspective first very nice very nice thank you thank you any other questions thank you Dr Castle this excellent presentation um Dr Gill is this a uh an appropriate time that we could uh tout your HR department though and Miss Baker would you like to give us an update on where we

085stand on Personnel is that am I going to get in trouble for asking you that I'm very happy to share at this moment right this second we have three vacancies teaching vacancies for next year we hope to have an offer out tomorrow and we are optimistic about the last two remaining positions and our yeah that's that is the cast list and how does that stack up to the people around us roughly um I'm I'm hearing that some of our neighboring School divisions still have in the 200 range um so I I feel for them I I'm very happy that Hanover has such a strong reputation and attracts such strong people and I have to give a shout out to my HR team we have a tremendous team who's working really hard but also a shout

086out to our principals who have had that sense of urgency all spring and summer to make sure those offers are getting made very quickly excellent thank you Dr yo that do okay yes sir good thank you Miss Baker that was a little bit off of the agenda but I thought that was important a good time for us to catch that that's that's that's pretty good public news for us there so okay so after this uh Dr Gill I believe we have uh some approval of proposed revised policies for the board minutes and recording votes yes sir you have five items on the action agendas we move to section J and it does indeed begin with an item that you heard in first read last month there have been no changes to the revisions to policy

0871-6.5 the Miss Seward presented to you again these were Minor Adjustments to the policy due to General Assembly action and the recommendations for approval Mr chair thank you is there any further discussion for any board members on this action before we take action on it okay you hear anything that I would uh I would abstain a uh or seek a a recommendation or a motion from a board member please chair I moved for approval of proposed revised policy 1-6.5 is there a second a second we have a motion and a second is there any further discussion on the policy if hearing none all those in favor say aye aye aye all those opposed the motion carries our second one Dr Gill yes thank you Mr chair your second item our board requested revisions to policy

0886-5.2 School library and media centers I understand from Council that this would require a vote prior to hearing this policy to suspend policy to permit the school board to vote on these proposed amendments Mr chair yes Dr Gill thank you Mr eichenberry thank you Mr chair I moved to suspend the requirement of policy 1-5.4 for first read of the proposed amendments to policy 6-5.2 prior to a vote and a subsequent meeting in order to allow the school board to take action on the proposed minor amendments tonight is there a second second we have emotion in a second is there any discussion from the board members if not this vote is only to do a to be able to move this policy amendments to action tonight I want to make sure we're clear on what we're

089voting on right now so with that being said I'll call for the question all those in favor say aye aye all opposed okay the motion carries now Dr Gill I believe we can continue yes now we can hear the uh revisions to policy I'll turn it over to uh Council good evening good evening you see before you several small revisions to your policy 6-5.2 the school libraries and media centers the attached revisions are offered just to clarify the intent as the school board move forward with this action regarding Acquisitions deselection of materials and there are a couple of minor other revisions we can just take them in order turning to the section labeled criteria for selection I received some feedback Mr eichenberry did you want to elaborate on the question that you had yeah my

090only elaboration was is the final bullet on criteria for selection it was the last part of that sentence where it says such materials may be acquired if approved by the school board upon recommendation by the library materials committee and just we're getting it it's the last bullet under criteria for selection there it is there it is there it is the very last one yep where it starts with such materials and I just brought it up because there's another section also that has the very same wording that again it's just a I guess you could say it's more or less it mentions that the school board is the last to be approving it but yet it mentions it before the library materials committee and I think it could be probably worded a little bit smoother to

091maybe flip-flop it in in its proper sequence so what I understand from Mr my eikenberry is that last phrase there where it starts such materials may be acquired if approved by the school board upon recommendation of the library materials committee he's asking that that be switched so it would say such materials such materials will be approved upon recommendation of the library materials committee such request is approved by the school board so we'll switch it such materials may be approved upon recommendation of the library materials committee and then approved by the school board is that what you're saying pretty much and it's also a section under considerations for deselection the same language and the same language as used under that and it's one of the areas that you we have added that was already in proposed

092draft form tonight that one would that deals with retention of books such materials may be retained upon recommendation by the library materials committee and such if such request is approved by the school board so you're just saying switch the order but don't change what it actually says you you think it would make it clear I understand yes ma'am okay okay and I think the other one under professional selection sources right and it was the uh actually the last three words in that last paragraph I'll read the whole sentence though when it says when in doubt about appropriate fitter content Librarians and classroom teachers should seek approval just put the word from their principles it just left out that word yes sir okay and the remaining suggested revisions are included on the draft materials they are

093marked in color the green would be additions and the red strike through so the addition there for under checks and balances that goes to the school board decision to require an inventory of the books and magazines are available that provides additional time for the secondary classrooms this is the first inventory of books magazines for items located in secondary classrooms would be needed to be submitted by January 12th but the first inventory for books and magazines for elementary would not need to be submitted until the beginning of the next school year I understand that the school board suggested that an acknowledgment for the vast number of materials that are often found in Elementary School classrooms right yes ma'am and just below there you'll see the strikethrough of the word sexualized and a substitution they are sexually

094explicit content that was just to remain consistent throughout the policy sexually explicit content is also added just below as an additional bullet under considerations for deselection and then along just below that there's that provision that Mr eikenberry just discussed where if a teacher or librarian wants to retain some materials that are found to have have sexually explicit content within them that there is a pathway for that for the professional to seek approval to retain that book in order to further specific pedagogical goals so again that last phrase would be amended to First reference the recommendation of the library materials committee and follow it in the sentence by saying the material could be retained if approved by the school board correct and and the last few changes I think are on the next page there it's

095a strikethrough of a paragraph that ended up we needed some clarification there some of the language was duplicatives that entire provision was struck with a couple of final amendments there just below it there's a time limit or a time and that matches that four-year time period there where it says action taken at the highest level review is in effect for a period of four years that matches what you have at the back of the policy for controversial materials so it keeps those processes some somewhat parallel and then just to clean up the sentence at the end there it's kind of hard when you read it with the red and the green but it just clarifies that the school board does retain discretion by a vote to deselect or to include any material that the school

096board deems appropriate and that is the last proposed revision are there any other questions from our school board members Mr red you know I guess maybe I should have brought this up in discussions with you but you know I've heard teachers complaining about this inventory of books having to do an inventory of the books in their classrooms and I can somewhat agree with them that that's going to be very difficult for them to to do that to spend that amount of time that they're saying hey we're not getting paid to do the inventory we've we've got instructional materials that we've got to be preparing and lesson plans and other things I'm wondering why we can't eliminate that section under checks and balances where it says classroom teachers are required to provide their principal it was

097a list of books and magazines located in their classroom Library I mean we've got a we've got a section right after that for our considerations for deselection I mean if somebody comes up with something some parent or the principal or whoever may come up with something and says you know I don't really see that uh what you've got in your classroom library is appropriate for your uh for your classroom it doesn't have an education educational suitability or age-appropriateness for your classroom why do we have to mandate that they do a list of books and magazines I I guess I hadn't given it a whole lot of thought until I started hearing from some others it says you know this is going to take a lot of work and so I I I just feel like

098maybe we we're going a little overboard maybe I I I I have a hard time with requiring them to do a an inventory of all the books and magazines that's located in that classroom and it's going to take teachers a long time and and somebody mentioned to me says well so I do a an inventory of that and I hand it in to the principal what's the principal going to do with it I mean are we just spinning our Wheels making uh making them do work that's not going to accomplish anything if somebody's got to complaint about a book then they've got a procedure for getting it out of the school library or for this from the classroom Library so but I'd like to see that that section right there eliminated but I'd like to

099hear from other board members obviously any other board members want to jump in on this Mr I can Barry or anybody Mr Hunley I tend to agree with Mr red I I think um there are procedures in built into the system of the policy that would address anybody that had a particular issue with a book or a magazine in a particular classroom Library um so I I could support that yeah that's tractorberg well it was first included obviously the green is what has been added and in the green it's giving secondary teachers an entire I'm sorry it's giving Elementary School teachers an entire year to go through their thousands of books especially teachers that are have been in the system for likely over 10 to 15 years or more have collected these little bitty books

100that they might do some uh rug reading have the whole class in front of them and um and then they they're stored away and they're put away and this will give them an entire school year in order to inventory them book source is a real nice booksource.org and you can put it on your phone and they can uh inventory right from their phone because many of them have already started doing this and it's not taking near as long as I think they expected and then the secondary classroom teachers have a generally unless they're English teachers for the most part I know we're not taught as a government history teacher I had probably close to a hundred books that would not take into with today's technology but again with my inadequate uh flip up phone I

101would obviously have to call on some help to uh use booksource and um but we will get it done real quick but what it to me it does it sends a message to our parents that we are transparent to the entire public of what's going on in every classroom and that the parents get a chance to see what's going on from K-12 and again I'm not and that's why we put the language in here and then miss greif worked with me in order to uh kind of come up with that compromise because I think that was a legitimate compromise as far as giving the teachers an entire year to Elementary stage and an entire semester at the secondary stage so I'm still in favor of keeping it okay I I'll only I want to ask

102answer one of your questions which was uh so what do we do with the inventory what we've tried to do with our policy is to lay out that we are putting it in the hands of the professionals the teachers are are going to their principles for any information that they may have questions about and then the principal who we're trying to keep it in the school environment that's the way I've read into this anyway is that we're trying to allow the professionals at the school level to determine what's appropriate not appropriate based upon what our policy says and so that was the intent giving it to the the principal the principal would then be responsible for that content at that point in time does that does that help answer your question at all well I

103mean the previous sentence uh even before the sentence that I read you says classroom teachers and curriculum Specialists will meet regularly to review selections so I mean they're already we're asking them to meet with um various levels of professionals within the school anyway I just hate to see them have to spend time listing books as Steve just mentioned excuse me Mr eikenberry just mentioned um they some of these teachers have maybe thousands of books and can you imagine having to inventory everything in your house every book that you have in your house and so it's kind of like why would why would we ask them to inventory all these books if there's nothing wrong with 95 percent of them and if if it's five percent of them if somebody's got an issue with they're probably

104going to come to light anyway and so then you've got a area down here for some considerations for deselection if it's not educationally suitable or age-appropriate or it's sexually explicit they've got a means to get rid of them and I I guarantee you as soon as somebody finds one that's in that category they're gonna they're gonna complain or even if your curriculum specialist in the in the classroom teacher come up with something and say oh gee look at this this is not exactly what I was expecting I've forgotten about this book I mean I know you Steve you've done a lot of work on this a whole lot more than I have and I I generally will support anything that you wanted to do with this but I just have a I have a difficulty

105putting this on the teachers um Miss Welsh do you have a comment yes um I would agree with Mr eikenberry about transparencies um of our uh for our parents between the schools and the parents I think this is what this inventory does for our for our parents of our community with children in the school system I also think that it helps prevent where we've come from so I think moving forward this is a very positive um you know step towards um transparency for our parents I also believe that Mr eichenberry has had a very good input in with the teachers and administration from there from them input from them that has changed the um the time frame that they have to have this import inventory done by and and the the tools that they are

106using for the inventory the scanner via your phone has made it very easy um you know so I think this is very a very good step I would like clarification on what Mr red would like to change I just I did not catch all of that there was the background I was just uh Whitney I was just suggesting that we delete the the word in classroom teachers are required to provide their principal with a list of books basically I'm suggesting we eliminate the requirement that teachers do an inventory of their books those things would come to light I think uh as the classroom teacher and curriculum Specialists meet regularly to review selections that I don't have a problem with and I think if there's an issue with a book in an elementary or secondary classroom

107it's going to come to light very quickly and a parent is going to complain about it and that book could then be eliminated based on our considerations for deselection and we wouldn't require that the teachers to have to go through this rig and roll to do an inventory so that was what I was suggesting was we just get rid of that that section after classroom teachers and curriculum Specialists will meet regularly to review selections and then strike the rest of that paragraph Miss Welch you got anything else no thank you for clarification I remain with my previous comments okay Sheriff Mr I can Barry one more final comment is Miss greifet issued to me within the last week but you'd mentioned it earlier that you were going to try to use avatarese to help out

108and would you say that's still an accurate assessment thank you for the question Mr eckenberry yes we have made a commitment to our principals and to our teachers that we would not ask teachers to inventory their own classrooms we will be using retirees we will pay substitutes we will divert other resources to make sure that the inventory isn't done on teacher time when they should be getting ready for their students thank you ma'am appreciate it can I ask one more question of course Mr red what's going to happen to the teacher if she refuses to do the inventory well she doesn't do a complete inventory so because the teachers aren't going to be doing the inventory themselves at least at the beginning of this year well throughout the next 12 12 months there really shouldn't

109come up as an issue now to your point we do have teachers who have purchased their own materials or received donations personally for their library and anecdotally I have heard from some who are saying that they do not wish that to necessarily be part of an inventory or to have to engage in that process and they will be leaving those materials home for the coming school year because they are not the property of Hanover County Public Schools that's right thank you Miss greif is there anything else Mr Conley can we look at the sources that we were going to use to the list of sources that's your name yes sir and and for the public I want to clarify one thing if you see us looking down we're not not paying attention we all have

110our computers green inside of our table so we're looking down reading what's being displayed I just want to make sure we clarified that it's not that we're not looking at the speaker we're all actively following what's being displayed that that our speakers are talking to us about okay any other discussion do we have a motion Mr eichenberry yes Mr chair I'd like to make a motion to prove proposed revised policy 6-5.2 do we have a second second we have a second from Mr Coleman first only because Miss Welsh was delayed we have a motion in a second is there any further discussion Mr chair Mr Hundley um it seems to me that we have a fair amount of discussion on the issue it I would be in favor of pulling it and working on additional

111edits to it in the interim between now and the next meeting if that was something that would be entertained by the board as the Motions on the floor I believe that the person making that she's on the wrong side of the room is uh the person making a motion would have to agree to that is that correct yes to agree to amend the motion to postpone it to the next meeting your your thoughts Mr I can Barry I'd like to continue with my motion and and my second or our second to this because we have we already have a revised policy to this and if we want further revisions then we can I mean down the road but I think in in action is an implementation is the proper course right now and to be

112consistent with uh what Miss greif has said and what must sewer to set as far as the expectations I Believe Miss greif has already began given professional development to a wide assortment of uh Hanover employees both principals English teachers Etc am I doing okay okay very good and I would not like to pull that up rug underneath your feet for for doing such a admirable job at this point and so I think we need to move on okay so we have a motion on the floor and a second I'd like to offer an amendment uh have an amendment okay oh boy I hope you read Robert's Rule here uh the Seward to help me out I'd like to uh amend the motion to strike uh to to accept this policy by strike by striking the

113words uh in that paragraph classroom teachers are required to provide their principal with a list of all books and magazines and right on through till the end of that paragraph yes ma'am a motion to amend is made as as Mr red has made and it requires a second so without a second the motion would die it is debatable so Mr red has moved properly he just awaits a second is there a second I'll second that and now we have a motion in a second so we debate this first and then take a vote on this amendment first and then vote on the overall policy after that is that correct yes the yes vote would be to amend the main motion a no vote would be not to amend the main motion okay I think we've

114talked about it enough do we have any other discussions from anybody at the table Ms Welch you have anything else no sir so you understand a yes vote would approve the amendment as as made a no vote would to deny the amendment as made is that correct okay so we have an amendment on the floor that we have to take a vote on it is to amend the policy to remove the language uh as stated by Mr red and we'll call for the question now all those in favor say aye aye aye all those opposed no no no uh Madam clerk will you pull the board please no hi hi Mr eichenberry no I no so now with the amendment uh voted down now we take up the motion as made on the floor without

115an amendment which is Mr eikenberry's motion to adopt with the changes as recommended and any further discussion on this all those in favor of the policy Amendment as presented say aye aye aye all opposed the motion carries I keep forgetting am I supposed to I don't know if I'm supposed to hit something other or not when we take a vote like that okay good let's make sure we're testing you yeah they are testing me to make sure I'm doing I don't see it written in here so if it's not written in here I don't I guess I have to do it so next on the agenda is the approval of Professional Resources to be used Dr Gill yes your third item is exactly that the approval of Professional Resources used by Librarians and teachers in

116selecting Library materials to present this I'll turn it over to our chief academic officer Ms greif thank thank you Dr Gill Mr chair board members as part of the policy that you were just looking at 6-5.2 staff is required to bring to you annually a list of selection sources that we will be using for both classroom libraries and comprehensive libraries for the vetting of resources that we plan to acquire as you know in the last 18 months or so we've had much dialogue around this during work sessions and this the top portion of this in black is actually the the list that staff has been using at least the last 12 months if not the last 18 months and then the final two are resources that the board requested we did we add to the

117list thank you Miss greif is there any discussion from the board members Mr eikenberry thank you Mr chair I actually like to strike ratedbooks.org from the list and keep the remaining list intact as is mentioned okay do you want to make a motion to that and with that uh with that included in your motion sir well if we want to have any discussion um we still we can still do the motion in a second and then have a discussion so would you like to do that well yes I'll make a motion to uh prove the professional selection sources minus ratedbooks.org is there a second second there's a motion and a second on the floor Mr Coleman with the second removing ratedbooks.org in LTE and approving all the rest is there any further discussion from the

118board members chair Mr Hundley um we heard some comments tonight regarding uh professional selection sources and the fact that booklooks.org is not really a professional selection source is that a fair statement um I don't know but I think that that is um pretty fair and I'm just wondering if there's a way to set that apart as additional resources which may be considered instead of keeping it under professional selection sources that's an excellent question Mr Hundley and um I I will take um a chance to answer that with the way I understand this and and thank in my discussions with uh the members of Staff um seven of these are all about adding books to our as a source for for bringing books in and I think Miss greif will straighten me out if I Stray

119too far here but uh and then the one booklooks.org is more really about um I hate to use the words keeping it out but it's really about um vetting the books to make sure that they are within a standard that we are passing uh that we have set in our policies and so the way I understand it is this would be more of a compliment not a you you can't in other words you're writing what I think you're saying but it'd be more of a compliment so let's the example I would use is if Common Sense Media recommends I think the one I used it was little boy blue jumped over the moon and the the librarian then goes to look at little boy blue jumped over the moon and there is a question that

120she has about a content in it she could then go to booklooks.org and see what that says and then any question that she may have she would be able to take both of those to her principal where the principal is the final authority of whether that book is right to be on the shelf or not how did I do miss greif was that fairly accurate yes in fact we used similar language in our training with Librarians yesterday to talk about how their professional task of curating collections really does lean into the first seven and they are professionally trained on how to use those sources to look at their current collection determine where they may have gaps that they want to fill where student interests May lie and to use those sources as the starting point

121for discovering the wonderful resources we can bring into our libraries and classrooms and then we also had a further discussion that the book looks sort of can act as a reference point should there be any questionable material that we need to be made aware of that might not have been found in the other sources that are that have been consulted does that help you Mr Hunley yeah thank you is there any other I'm sorry yes sir oh you're okay you're okay anything anybody else any other board members any discussion Miss Welch no sir okay well thank you Miss greif I will um we have emotion on the floor and it's been seconded and uh we're now ready to call for the question all those in favor of uh approval of the eight minus the redditbooks.org

122so it'll be set eight total um say aye aye aye aye all opposed say nay the eyes have it the motion carries Mr chair yes sir can I just make it it doesn't look like if I'm counting wrong that we have the number right two oh my I really messed that up I'm so sorry I I just want to make thank you you're right clear on that you're right I'm not a it's terrible it was nine originally and then I took two out and I messed that up because I tried to do math in my head so I apologize but thank you Mr Hundley that's why you sit close to me that's why he's an engineer exactly okay next Dr Gill the approval of the reappropriation of FY 2023 funding yes thank you Mr chair

123as we do annually we have unspent funds from the previous fiscal year that we would like to expend carry over if you will to fy24 here to give further explanation is our Director of Finance Ms Harvey good evening Mr chairman and members of the board this action item is to request the approval of the reappropriation of 4 million one hundred and ten thousand two hundred and ninety three dollars of the remaining fiscal year 23 funds to the fiscal year 23 I mean fiscal year 24 adopted budget the majority of these funds are unspent Grant balances these grants are multi-year grants so therefore the funds need to be transferred over to the next year in order to continue the commitments that are provided from these funds the local balances are from projects that could not be

124completed during the fiscal year as well as purchases that could not be encumbered prior to the end of the fiscal year due to ongoing supply chain issues we would also like to note that there is no additional funding required for this reappropriation request as the funding sources were included in the fiscal year 23 balance budget and should you choose to approve this request it will be discussed at the August finance committee meeting as well as the August 23rd Board of Supervisors meeting and I will take any questions you have at this time are there any questions okay an excellent job obviously no questions so we need to approve this then yes please please okay yeah Mr Hunt Mr eichenberg yes I'd like to make a motion to approve uh reappropriation of fiscal year 2023 funding

125to be expended for fiscal year 2024. is there a second second we have a motion in a second Mr Hunley with a second is there any further discussion all those in favor say aye aye aye all opposed motion carries thank you Mr chair our final item for Action this evening is a very positive one indeed and that is additional funding for our Virginia preschool initiative and here to give the specifics is our assistant superintendent for business and operations Miss Berta thank you Dr Gill good evening Mr chair members of the board it's always good news when we can accept additional State revenues particularly for our earliest Learners and I'm going to walk you through a little bit of the historical perspective on how we arrived at this point as we shared with you all in

126your February work session and subsequently at your February board meeting as part of your instructional highlight the instructional team recommended at that time that we create one classroom type for our preschools currently we have three programmatic preschools our early childhood special ed our VPI and our Head Start program consolidating this into one singular general education and Inclusive Preschool allows us the opportunity to tap into additional State revenues to support our preschool program subsequent to the adoption of the fiscal year 24 budget this plan was presented to the Department of Education and inside of the appropriated skinny budget there is the funding available for us to draw down so this shift in programming allows us to leverage the additional State funds for our preschool program upping our slot allotment from 54 to 157 slots this update

127allows us to open classrooms to three-year-olds currently we're restricted to four-year-olds in our current programming this does not mean that we're going to add 103 slots this or 103 students this shift in programming allows us to shift our special ed students into our VPI program and also allows for approximately 20 additional preschool students that we currently cannot house in our preschool programs to enter for this current school year it is important to note that we have seen a significant uptick in the applications for preschool in Hanover this year to date we've received 708 applications as compared to about 300 last year so there's definitely a need for preschool and Hanover there are no additional local matching requirements and part of that is due to a change in the philosophy from doe requiring local match in

128fiscal year 21 it used to be a straight 25 percent local match where we had to cash fund on the local side however in fiscal year 21 they made a modification to that they changed the formula to be based on our local Composite Index that's our share that we have to contribute as a state but of that it doesn't all have to be our cash 50 of that can be related to in-kind and so we can leverage portions of individuals that support the program we can leverage classroom utility cost allocating that across our buildings custodial support and other things so of the 622 thousand dollar local requirement half of that can be in kind it doesn't have to be cash our budget and finance team have evaluated this with the support of our instructional team

129our special ed team and we are able to do that inside of our fiscal year 24 budget most importantly because we added two teaching positions for preschool and two instructional aides in our local local allocation for preschool coupled with that in-kind match so we are able to accept from the state 452 788 without any additional local funds from Hanover so if there are no questions or if you have questions I'm certainly happy to ask ask them but I do ask this evening that you accept this additional allotment from the state in the amount of 452 788 and we will in turn present this to the finance committee tomorrow afternoon and then ask for their support at their August 23rd meeting thank you Miss Murder are there any questions from the board members Mr Hundley Miss

130Berta I heard um change of model to match the state okay or to match some requirements from the state so what does that mean for our teachers in terms of pupil teacher ratio I'm going to ask Mr Mudd who's the if anything the expert in this area to help me on that question oh yeah and I'm reminded that we did have a presentation about that by Mr Mudd probably it was so I apologize for asking again yes absolutely good evening um our people teacher ratios in the um in the preschool classrooms will be the same so we last year we were 18 to one 18 students to one teacher there is also a para educator in the classroom as well so essentially two adults for for 18 students we can go up to 20 in

131our classrooms we we tend to cap at 18. and I think the difference that might be in your head is in our former model in our early childhood special education classrooms those classrooms were not necessarily um inclusive and so they would they would have had a smaller class size but in this model all students will be in one classroom just like our kindergarten through 12th graders we'll serve all students the difference will be in the former model our special education teachers were largely serving just the students with disabilities outside of the classroom in this model all students will be in the classroom being served by classroom teachers in Paris and our special education staff will now support in the classroom and then also as as Services indicate in their IEPs some students may be receiving

132service outside so it'll very much look like what things look like in our K5 classrooms we're just looking to move the model in that direction so okay thanks appreciate it Mr I can Barry Mr Mudd well I got you thank you sir yes sir what are some of the factors that go into selecting these students especially the the three-year-olds yes so our preschool policy Council um they are responsible they are made of a group of staff and parents and also a school board member is on the policy Council and they they look at um various criteria that would be pertinent to our community and we are the criteria that we are given does need to be the criteria the policy Council comes up with does need to be approved by the local policy Council but

133then the state also needs to review to ensure that we are appropriately including various criteria but it they do give leverage to the community so for example in a in a community that may have a high percentage of military families that may that may be a component of the criteria that may be different than if you were in a in a division that did not have a provision in the criteria to include because there may not be a large military presence we do have military as part of our one of the things that we do have on our criteria sheet so it it includes and I'm talking uh I have a lot of things slimming in my head as sure so I'm trying to trying to narrow it down but income is a component but

134also various other at-risk factors are included as well would an at-risk Factor also be since I got two phone calls today from just shy the New Kent line Miss Berta but they don't have the luxury of a nice screen in their desk and stuff like that and with their three-year-old I was wait listed and so they're in an I think in that risk area where I got another phone call I said we're hooking it up now and we're testing it out and they were actually testing it out with with me because I was leading them on to let them know what the how to find the agenda for tonight's meeting so they've never been able to do that at home so that is not currently part of our criteria but we did have a parent

135recently speak to our program director Miss Verlander who um who asked is is internet a a part of the criteria or is it that is that an allowable component of the criteria and to be honest I don't know the answer to that question but miss Verlander did say you know our criteria is approved every year by our school board and reviewed by the doe but we we look at it every year and so she did say that in in the coming year she thought that was a great question and someone will be able to interface with the doe to see is that something that our policy council could consider moving forward we thought that was a good suggestion if nothing else to look into okay well thank you thank you thank you Mr any other

136questions Miss Welch no sir timely did you okay all right thank you Mr Mudd I think we're done with that so we'll uh go to uh would need a motion then to accept the supplemental Appropriations for the VPI Sarah I'd like to make a motion to request supplemental appropriation for the VPI to accept the supplemental appropriation thank you Mr eikenberry in a second by Mr Hunley is there any further discussion hearing none all those in favor of accepting the state funds in the amount of 452 788 uh save aye aye aye all opposed no the eyes have it motion carries all right Dr Gill I believe we're to the information and discussion section K we are indeed Mr chair we have three policy revisions that are necessitated by recent action from the general assembly and

137so we have to respond in kind and I will turn it over to council to present those revisions for first read this evening foreign good evening again as Dr Gill said I have three here for you to consider tonight let's see which one do you have on there first conflict of interest conflict of interest all right so policy 1-4.1 you can see there I put the house bill and the Senate Bill numbers that have made the changes it just relates to the training requirements that are now for appointed school boards before it only had elected School boards it it's included in addition related to any gifts that you all might receive from any foreign dignitaries so I know that happens on a regular basis kidding I don't know so it's in the code now it

138needs to be in your policy so that's why I've added it tonight for your consideration um let's see the next one 1-6.5 that is board minutes and record no that's the one we did earlier today what's the next one that you have there the threat assessments annual operating budget okay that one that would be 3-2.1 right also the result of the 2023 General Assembly it's an it's a 2.192 that you're required to publish notice of your upcoming annual budget public hearing it was 10 they've reduced it down to seven and the final one there is for the threat assessment teams policy 4-1.2 also the results of general assembly action amending 22.1-79.4 it just talks about the training that they need to receive all new members that are on the threat assessment team and then training

139that they need to get there after every three years I talked with Carrie Wright that's something that we're already doing they've held three sessions already it has substantial amount of people already trained so it's just reflecting the amendment to state law in our current practice any questions for the board members thank you madam Council all right Dr Gill I think we're back to materials for Board review yes sir there are four items in your packet to review on your own time they do include your monthly fiscal status report facility usage and calendar aboard related events but also this month it includes your advisory reports from each of your board advisory committees each and every year they do an annual summary of their well of their advice to you as well as their recommendations moving forward

140you will have a presentation at a future board meeting but we include them in advance for you to review prior to that future presentation Mr chair thank you Dr Gill and I would just like to call that under our calendar uh remind our our board as you're writing down important dates that we have uh graduation this Thursday at 5 30 again in God's country over at Patrick Henry High School so we look forward to having you join us there and then we have convocation on Monday everybody should have received an email about that I hope you have responded back to uh Madam clerk with uh any of their requests to where we would like to go for a convocation and I draw your attention to our work session currently scheduled for September the 14th that

141will be a professional development session for the board as opposed to having specific topics that will be working on professional development for us as a board as a whole and Mr chair yes sir um just like to point out that under regular school board meetings it's this August 8th location change of course identifying this location it doesn't say anything about the future meetings now we're assuming that we're going to continue to meet here we are at this time yes sir okay that was gonna be my last closing comments is about the use of this facility and how nice it was for everybody to be able to be a 10 to 10 and watch the uh ceremonies that were here and so I think it was a wonderful we will but we'll obviously take that up

142as we go down the road as to how much additional work it's put on our staff and everything else but it was very nice I I have not heard anything negative about tonight yet so well I found it to be very very nice I could hear the speakers much better that is a true statement and you know it gave everybody a opportunity to get in here at the same time you didn't have to wait and get a ticket I didn't and you're not gonna have to go out in the dark parking lot tonight so I think it's a great great idea okay thank you Mr red next meeting topics Dr Gill yes thank you Mr chairman um we will be having the three policies you've just heard from Ms Seward on our action agenda for

143September also be hearing hard to believe but our opening of school report because we will have open school by our next meeting Mr chair wow thank you are there any other topics from the board members before we uh move to it's a shame that that uh Mr Sutton departed because I know we could have used him for this next session but uh does anything else Miss Welsh do you have anything no sir okay anybody else Mr Mr red yes Mr Sutton trained me well I move we adjourn there's some motion on the floor we adjourn with a second any discussion all those in favor say aye aye aye all opposed we are adjourned enjoy your family trip Miss Welsh