School Committee Meeting - 3 30 2022

001believe is that working out for everyone yes sorry about that everybody okay that's good to go sorry everyone we just had to work out a few technical difficulties we have a guest presenter for the meeting later tonight and we had a few different microphones hooked up so that is what accounted for the delay we will start the recall to order the public hearing on the proposed fiscal year 23 budget for the cohasset public schools as of 5 36 p.m would all committee members that are present please indicate so in roll call mrs callery mr dial is not present mr kearney is not present mrs st onge present and i am present craig mcclellan so as three of the five committee members are present we do have a quorum we will proceed with the public hearing

002the purpose of this public hearing is of course to invite public comment to comment on the school committee's deliberation on and certification of the proposed fy23 budget and we will turn right to our director of finance and operations in order to lead us through the proposed budget mr susan owen thank you welcome everyone so this is the fy 23 budget proposal we've worked diligently as an admin team we've worked with advisory school committee we've had multiple local meetings um trying to make ends meet with the budget and what we were wanted so we'll just walk through the process now these are our fy country budget priorities you can see we have teaching and learning social emotional wellness resources and communication engagement so these tie into our strategic plan which we worked um worked on the

003last year and a half and these what we put forward as our priorities and you'll see i requested a requested budget um our fy 22 appropriated budget is 21 million 684 going forward our contractual obligations um or rule over cost which is steps and ways is approximately seven hundred and eighty thousand seven hundred thirty two dollars um we had fifty three thousand thousand three hundred twenty two dollar increase in circuit break funding so that helps offset some of our expenses but then we also had an increase in special intuitions in the amount of 215 dollars and then we as we normally do as we project we've had multiple people put in for the retirement savings and what that means is we have some people that are at the higher higher end of the salary scale

004um that will be leaving us and we'll have some possibly fresh young teachers coming in at a different different level on the salary scale so our priority requests uh seven hundred sixty thousand fifteen dollars not that our venture teachers aren't fresh that's right then then we have some asks some you know need needs to have in order to move the district um open the doors due to enrollment we need to add a grade to teacher at the oscar elementary school we also need a to add a math specialist to middle school based on our mps scores and working on some of our our learning gaps um we a few weeks ago school committee voted to increase our substitute teacher rate from eighty dollars per day to a hundred dollars per day juicing the additional twenty

005five thousand dollars there increase the supplies materials at one point this was 108 000 we worked diligently this week to drill that number down um and work go forward and work with just what we felt we needed to have to get to get rolling um and then we also as we started process last year we continued the process of full day kindergarten which was 20 25 000 so our additional recommendation for 220 team um total additions to the budget over last year or this year was nine hundred eighty three thousand thirty three dollars however we had to make some reductions um we did not lose any positions we did not lay off any staff we did not cut anyone um between the town's collaboration with the school department um we currently fund um just about

006three it supports staff and the town is transferring the funding of one of those i.t support people back to the town side budget um and that that was the same exclusive 69 000 we met with the town account the town manager um advisory and school committee um and we agreed that for the increase in our spend tuition which was about 215 000 we could buy policy utilize up to two hundred thousand dollars must fed stabilization fund um so we are going to ask the school committee needs to vote um to use the two hundred thousand dollars and select board also has to vote we athletic trainer currently the athletic trainer is funded completely from the school budget account um because he is the athletic trainer and we have an athletic revolving account it makes sense

007that a portion of his salary should be um paid for through that revolving so we just that's just a transfer of what account um his part of his salaries being paid from and then um as much as we did want to we agreed to remove the additional 25 000 reduction for the kindergarten for twenty five thousand dollars um at least for this year um our you know our hope is to at some point you have free full day k um and we're chipping away at it as best we can so um as much as we didn't wanna have to make changes we did um we made sure it was you know the least least um effect on people and staff so our budget reductions were about 322 113 dollars when you put it all together

008you have the fy 22 appropriated budget you have the original editions of the 983 000. you have a budget reductions of 322 000 and i requested increase over f122 is 660 920 which is the exact amount the town is allocating to the school department um that is equitable to a 3.05 increase over the current year bringing us to about a budget of twenty two thousand three hundred forty four twenty two million three hundred forty four thousand three hundred fifty two dollars thank you guys um so that that's it summarized in piecemeal the this is the worksheet that you've seen from the beginning um i blessed the ads the subtraction so you can see the work that we went through because we were originally at a four point six a four point eight percent increase so

009we had an account for three point four four seven um which is what the town allocation was so this is just a summary of those contextual obligations the increase the circuit breaker um the staffing requests um you can see we put in the increase to full decay but then below you can see that we removed it um the 25 000 lease for this year so again it just represents the same numbers that we just talked about to 3.05 percent um increase 660 920 um to give us a 22 million three hundred and forty four thousand three hundred fifty two dollar budget okay thank you so much more careful oh okay oh there's a bunch more that's just the overarching summary um this is the back up to the substitute teacher increase you know the school

010committee voted to increase that's the two teachers made 200 a day um here is the breakdown of what surrounding districts are pain then we went into the joseph osgood um and what the oscar priority ritual um barrel put forward her her priorities which are here support social emotional well-being to strengthen cultural competency format and multi-tiered systems what clear support co-teaching implement math curriculum to establish and evaluate assessments being used analyze data to drive instruction continue to update the facility and to increase the number of classroom features on the grade 2 based on enrollment going forward to see her data did she use to support her priorities this is the enrollment for her for her um for all is good right now so it gives you the current year 2021-22 the plus size and then the

011enrollment for next year and you can see at the bottom of grade 2 um grade 1 currently has 107 with six sections and that's what we want to continue going into next year yeah and just to drive that home the importance of that position is to keep the numbers very low in our elementary you know we recognize that it was a not a typical situation for our kindergartners over the last year or two and the preparedness for first grade when you really start diving into reading was not at the level that we're we're accustomed to so we really want to ensure that that early literacy and numeracy too is uh is is counted accounted for in our grade two for our grade two students it's a big big position for us this is just more

012of a supporting data from the oscar elementary then we go to the dia health elementary with principal sullivan first group priorities uh yellow curriculum introduction model math curriculum alignment curriculum assessment family and community engagement social emotional learning multi-tiered support facilities so you see some similar similar priorities here which kind of go in line with our students the enrollment for the dear hill school is here um you can see the 21 22 and then 22 23 um they're not asking for any additional sections that will probably come next year when that grade 5 grade two moves forward possibly possible more damage to support school priorities and budget requests so she's broken it down into a pie chart what's your request to support is the cultural responsibility for curriculum educational software technology hardware and progression of the

013building updates salaries which is a continuum being through law schools then we get to the middle school with principal john mills this is his priority development of the multi-tiered system development curriculum teaching practices and learning opportunities and promoting equitable opportunities for poor and social emotional wellness for students so again continuing things so at the middle school we've asked to add a math specialist or math interventionist um develop development multi-tiered system of support to support students at different academic and social emotional levels um and our customers show that we need some help with the middle school yeah it does and not even beyond mcat scores uh that's correct but even beyond mks scores it's just the ability to uh continue the support that's happening at our elementary in mathematics up at the middle school level we've

014never had um an interventionist that can do the kind of work that's needed uh to continue that help for our students and so you know that it's just that it's crucial for them um this is a big position as was our position we had last year when we added our first reading specialist at the middle school uh you know they they really kind of i think are sort of bookends of the support network that we need for our students and when we're as we're establishing a more robust mtss more data supporting budget priorities the municipal enrollment for the current year and for the projected next year it's down just by four students this just goes back to our strategic plan develop curriculum teaching practices yeah and again this is an exciting position because of the

015for me it's because of the coding on and this is really an emphasis on the coding not as much on the design process although that's part of it a lot of the classes at this level in other districts you see really focus on the building of the robot more as sort of intro physics this is not what this this class is more on the coding and the robotics um and it's very much part of our plan to build a more robust technology computer science uh curriculum pathway from 3k to 12. so this is a great position very excited about it thanks for watching well i'm not going to read to every slide this is just to support the projects based learning and then you know that's a priority so until then it's not look happy

016yes it goes along with to requests again you see multi multi-channel system support just gives us the information and this is this is great um you know one of our focus points this year is really getting student voice this is a nice example of you know how important new student activities are and what the students are saying about it you know it's wonderful as we formed independent middle school to have students really owning the culture and you're seeing that in a lot of ways and this is a perfect example of it so i just love that you put this in there and the cross country team and newspaper really taken off yeah they really are i mean the amount of kids in cross country is astounding it's such a great program for our kids and

017newspapers always been strong it's nice to develop that we wanted to high school with brenton scott it was his school priorities which implement personal personalized learning and project-based learning through teaching and learning um and from the student learning experience all of us through wellness by reducing academic stress providing personalized learning path for success um so if you you can you can see the theme to all the schools um and they'll tie back to us [Music] the enrollment for this year in the following year yeah i think this slide this is i just want to make the point that you know although we're asking for uh some important positions there are many positions that we aren't asking for in this uh in this budget and there's a lot of directions that our strategic plan points us

018towards some of those areas that we want to be exploring in the in the coming years are building a therapy therapeutic program district-wide barbara swanker our director of student services talked a lot about how this would help us as a district making sure we keep students in district who have needs but this would help every student in our district as well our computer science pathway which you can start to see evolving a couple of weeks ago we showed you sort of the beginnings of that branch tree where we were gonna be moving our um our programming boat uh vertically and horizontally assistant principals at the elementary school at least we're looking probably at one for each down the road most school districts who have elementary schools our size do you have an assistant principal that

019works in that i want to want to explore that for sure we also want to explore the expansion of our pre-k program we have an amazing pre-k program and i we believe firmly that adding a section to that would be very popular and would bring a lot of customers in my customers i mean little kids introducing elementary foreign language many many districts uh have that and it's such an important thing to really if we're going to have a a more vibrant and successful foreign language program to introduce it at the early levels love to see that human resources cultural support really thinking about potential the potential of a director of human and cultural resources and perhaps this could tie into dei they may be distinct positions but i think that having a full full district

020approach to diversity equity and inclusion is really important but i also think having someone as a driver to it that in a small district like ours could also help with some of our human resource points which we definitely need would be a great addition science specialists at the elementary we've done some good work with embedded professional development it would be nice to push that forward in the coming years with a position or two and um as you'll hear in our architectural study the ability to have more vocational uh and uh innovative options at our particularly at our middle school in high school would be wonderful the space to do it would also be wonderful but having those programs is something we certainly want to look at moving forward continuing the introduction of free k we're

021one of the few districts that's still in charge for our our full day kindergarten we need to move in that direction uh they're going to be a multitude of continued ongoing needs in social emotional learning uh teaching kids the competencies from castle also um being able to support culturally responsive teaching district wide you've seen a lot of our training that has but to do that programmatically as well will be important project-based learning you can see that that that approach is happening and you can see it in the presentation today there'll be more uh budgetary needs in that direction long-term transportation solutions and i'll mention this in the school committee meeting that you know we certainly want to look at what we're going to be doing long term for our um for our buses that we

022have a one-year lease extension but what do we want to do do we want to um to continue that lease so that we want to do something in a different direction where are we going to park and house our buses still very much in the air that could be uh money associated with that and then of course technology integration and this idea of blended learning and then finally an ongoing need to support communication and engagement and this isn't a completely comprehensive list but it's it's a pretty good indicator of some of the directions that we're hoping to move in which our strategic plan points us in and of course this communication engagement would also include some upgrades on our website which are needed and which uh i know it works so i think that concludes

023our budget presentation i'll turn it over to you chairman clown if you have any questions for the committee or if you want any discussion or if there are any comments from the community sure thank you ms owen thank you dr sullivan and i would ask that we that we turn to comments or input from the community before we deliberate as individual school committee members normally do unless there's any objections to that but known um are there any comments we'll just uh i'll just give everyone a few minutes if you are watching there's um absolutely no one um here for the budget meeting um in person but there may be a few people for here early for the school committee meeting but um if you're participating virtually in the public hearing traditionally we don't or historically

024won't have a lot of attendance for this unfortunately please utilize the q a feature on zone to make your comment or ask any questions you'd like it doesn't look like anyone has any but we'll be um allowing the school committee members to make comments so if you have any comments just just chime in at any time and uh and as we get through the school community deliberations we will uh we'll get to them um is clearly any comments i don't have any comments i do look forward to the presentation that we'll be seeing during school community meeting i feel like i i think there are a lot of opportunities to your point about therapeutic programming resources here in the district that would be wonderful for us to have in districts so hope is that we

025will as a community come together to find a way to make that resource available for our families here in capacity um two things i guess i'm really disappointed that we are taking away the kindergarten reduction and i know that that's just math but i think that really stinks and i think that's like a commitment that we had talked about we were really committed to and i think it's extremely unfortunate that that's happening and kind of embarrassing to me because you're trying to go in that direction and if it's not that's not a personal comment it's just it really stinks and so i just want i'll just put that in the record that i do um and also as we're looking at um goals i like the last slide of where we're going and i'm thinking

026that as we are thinking about you know growing programs looking at reading specialist and math specials at the middle school i'm hoping that in in future thought that that will be expanded into the high school realm as well i mean when kids are getting support in elementary school and middle school it's not like magic happens and you're no longer getting support 9 through 12 and beyond frankly so i just hope that that's part of our future conversations um uh i think it's so important um as as we continue to kind of recover move forward from our pandemic learning i think it's very interesting right now looking at um benchmark assessments and mid-year report cards and growth and thinking about um just just how much i guess is her i don't know maybe just my head

027is feeling like a little clearer but the fact that my fourth grader the last time she had a complete year of school was first grade i was doing mcas practice with fourth grade and i know this feels tangential but i know something else i'm cast practice with fourth graders at where i work wow their writing has grown so much this year and the teacher said i know but think about it the last time we had a full year to work on writing for them they were in first grade yeah so i just anticipate the need for that support even more than usual right um so just like just so that we're keeping that on our radar um yeah i guess i'm just gonna sit here and be disappointed about the kindergarten center for a while

028i'm just gonna wallow in it um thank you for all of your hard work that was very creative re a lot it was fun of course of course but just like take the credits so come on um no it was it was it was very important just because i feel like we were very far apart before and i know i'm not a part of those side team efforts but i have some very creative thinking that's been done in the past couple of years um looking at how how budgets can be used creatively there is a community question yes yes mrs barry has a comment so why don't we go to mrs barry's comment did she know her address yes megan barry 11 tablet does the proposed budget include six teachers for the incoming consumer yes

029we currently have sex and that it does yes thank you mrs barry um okay i just want to note uh quickly uh first of all your um your disappointment is well-founded mrs onge i share it um it is uh definitely an example of this committee reneging on a promise that it made um and i'm just gonna be candid about that and it was difficult um cut to make that said um anyone who knows me has heard me use the phrase the juice worth the squeeze and um i want to note that unlike a lot of past years where we were forced to actually cut substantive improvements or additions to the district our budget committee found a way in conjunction and collaboration with especially advisory committee the town chris senior and um and the select board

030specifically kerry thompson and corey evans um we were able to figure out how to get down from our initial increase to the necessary 305 or the agreed-upon 305 without without deleting or taking away any of those substantive improvements which we deem as critical needs and they are a critical need to make no mistake but i am proud of the fact that we were still able to add these positions all of those those substantive improvements are still being made some of them and so that is in in in the face of what i would characterize as a town-wide budgetary crisis right now i do not think our town draws the revenue it needs to operate optimally or effectively and that goes for all departments and the school department is is not an exception and despite that

031we were able to still have these positions um i'm i'm i'm particularly excited about the second grade teacher i think that we're going to see that you know um we're going to see some learning gaps there it's a really critical year um especially preparing them to go there's a big jump from second grade to third grade we need to make sure that the students have the support they need in making that transition i mean every everything we asked for was critical but but i i'm especially excited about that so um and then again none of these are i say like it's something we're having like a holographic uh uh projectors in every classroom and something really awesome that we can't wait to see next year right these are things that we basically you know needed

032already and we were treading water the pandemic and i made this analogy i think in another meeting recently was sort of like you know someone tossing us a big weight while we're treading water and it really exposed a lot of shortcomings in the district that we really had to fill and um so um that said i am proud that we did that and and so to explain to everyone that yes we we knowingly um renaged on that promise because of the kindergarten tuition because it was something that we can delay this is not canceling that it's just delaying us in the face of a very very tight budget it's a very difficult budget year and so it's 25 000 that we could use um to improve the district um this is still an important initiative

033and we have every intention of ensuring that kindergarten becomes free and cohabit so um you know i i'll i'll take you know i'll take personal um you know blame for that it was something that you know we deemed that starting our conversations but thank you thank you thank you to all of the other town committees that collaborated with us and helped us especially a vegetarian novices myself understand the ins and outs and help us with these reallocations um the things that we saw that helped us turn down our request without trimming down our improvements so thank you so much um are there any other public comments mr larry okay so with that um are there any other comments from the school community members president okay is there a motion um mr security isn't secure he

034is on but he's not making any content oh he is present yes and he was present um i will tell you uh yes uh um hold on one moment mr i will just note the record that uh mr kearney was present as 30 8 p.m okay um so um that concludes the public hearing on the fy 23 budget is there a motion to adjourn and move into the regularly committed regularly scheduled school community oh no we vote i would like to move to the public voters here okay it's been emotionally hearing a public hearing by 23 budgets their second second second by mr cleary all in favor aye aye okay uh motion click all opposed i mean there's no one else here i just heard this clearly saying so uh but uh i should ask

035that anyway emotion clearly passes uh the public hearing is adjourned and uh we will immediately uh move into the school committee meeting so i'll call to order the uh march 30th 2022 meeting the classic school committee meeting meeting of the school committee excuse me i would all members of the president please indicate some roll call mr cleary mr dial is not present at this time the security is present virtually present um i am president craig mcclellan that's four out of five members that are present we have a quorum and we will move right into um public comment i'll just reiterate the rules surrounding public comment this is a time for the members of our community to make comments or raise discussion points or ask questions um that are not related that are not related topics

036that are already on the agenda if you have something that is related to something that's on the agenda um please wait until we arrive at that point in the meeting to raise your question or your discussion point um also i'll just reiterate the rules surrounding um community participation we're trying to streamline the meetings a bit so we've instituted a three comment per household rule meaning any questions follow-up questions or comments you as a household so that could be spouses partners anyone in the same household even if your student is asking a question that would be that would count um so three total per household and um use those at any time in any way you'd like that's not to restrict anyone we hope everyone's able to communicate their thoughts within three comments but we do

037need to keep these meetings moving and historically they have gone for a long time so with that said i'll stop talking allow members of the public to make a public comment if they um have any we'll give a few minutes for a few seconds rather for people to utilize the q a feature on zoom to do that okay seeing none we'll move on so um we'll turn to the superintendent's report um before we do all welcome our visitors from uh well first the chairperson the school facilities committee that is here and we'll be presenting along with our our design professionals at ai3 architects to provide in existing conditions uh presentation on the existing conditions of our schools um i know there's more before they do that but i'm just welcomed into the meeting so at

038this point we'll return to the superintendent's report and i turn the meeting over to our superintendent schools dr patrick sullivan thank you chairman mcclellan and um it's good to uh good to see jake here as who jake squadrito is yes sorry jake it's okay we moved yeah miss jake but jake is one of our st obviously student liaisons and i'm excited to get the the ssac back together next week we're going to talk about some important work to move forward it's this has been a couple of weeks of some things we haven't done before be happening again and jake may talk about some of these but just to mention a couple of them we had a semi-formal dance at the high school which was wonderful to see we have a dance the first one in

039two years believe it or not happening at our middle school next friday very very excited for that i know the middle school kids are just ecstatic um some haven't had a dance in middle school yet so that's that's a wonderful thing our sports as i mentioned last time are over running we we're very excited there's a sports info night happening uh tonight actually i believe at seven o'clock and that's always important for our spring sport families we had two amazing all-time all town concerts that was wonderful we haven't had one of those in a few years it was great to see the students from grades 4 through 12 who participate so earnestly in chorus band performing uh we had a ninth grade parent curriculum night current guardian curriculum night which happened um last week yes

040which was very informative and well attended right here uh in this in this setting uh and you know just as a operational we are beginning mcas in the next few weeks so we have our students preparing and we're preparing to help the students as they take this major major exam which takes a lot of time and can cause some stress so we're we're looking to to support them as they so they can show all they want so that's a really good thing and um i know we do have another update from dark skulls but i guess at this point i'll turn it over to jake to fill us in on any interesting details that are happening uh district-wide from a student perspective yeah i know it's been a while since i've been here yeah definitely

041like a lot has changed um first of all like just personally like going sort of back to like normal you know has been really good and it's nice to just sort of like go to school and all i have to do is just learn and not worry about who got copied that week around you know like it's nice to just be able to go to school be myself be a human you know that's been really great to get back to that um something else i wanted to bring up was i did i don't know how much you guys know about like the project adventure in the high school but i did it for the first time during health class last week and i'm like the first person to be super cynical about all that stuff

042oh it was boring it wasn't fun and you did the climbing wall no we didn't do that yet we're still working on getting certified for that rightly before i'm done with health next week um but um no it was like a ton of fun and i thought it achieved like everything that it wanted to like in terms of like working with your team like everybody in the class was getting along everybody was working together so i thought that was really nice and i just wanted to give that like a shout out because it was really cool can you describe a few of like the facets of that you experience so i missed the first day that my class did it but when i was there it was like a big map that like you couldn't

043touch and then in the middle was two like swings like ropes that you like swung around on kind of and we just did like different challenges in terms of like getting around you had to work with everybody like communicating making sure you have certain people in certain places at specific times you know like being patient working with others and it just like went really well and everybody was just like really worked really well together so that was really great to see yeah it's a really it's really nice because it levels the playing field so to speak right because everybody has to participate everybody has to bring their strengths to the table for everybody to do what they need to do so i'm so excited that you really thought it was great yeah yeah yeah that's

044great it says a lot about your class too that they were able to together in a very short period of time yeah i know right really well the teachers they love it so that's great yeah yeah you're a pretty special class for sure i know everything else is seen is everybody okay you know it's good for april's friday no it's kind of about to all fly by really quick but i think pretty much everyone's done with like getting decisions from colleges people are just sort of starting to know where they're gonna go how everything's gonna work out and i think you know pretty much everybody's happy and you know feeling good about where they're gonna be good it's good good yeah the next two months are really special yeah good hi any questions for jake

045i didn't i had work i couldn't get it covered [Music] all right well that was my question is your health class 9 through 12 is it just seniors it's just seniors makes the adventure different yeah well it makes it really special for them too though yeah yeah but it's nice when it's small too yeah just curious i could find it it was night jake much appreciated okay so i know that uh dr collins has an update um on our student opportunity yeah i i have it here it'll be quick yeah so well doctor if someone's going up so you may or may not have remembered but in 2019 um it was the student opportunity act was passed and so it was um asked of us to look at some focus areas and and find some

046areas or groups of people that may needed some additional supports so um we uh so here's the kind of thing they wanted to really look at how do you reduce that achievement gap in groups that um need we tend to need more support right so if we were to really look at that specific subgroup for us in our district and then look at some research-based programs um they're really just trying to shore things up um and so i think the way to the next slide and so this was really just kind of that big piece we really wanted to look at the reading achievement gap and so um although we are looking at all students the the act actually asked us to look at a targeted group but we felt we might as well do

047it for everyone um and during this time the pandemic happened so that really drove it home for us to really think about um pandemic we'd already decided it was reading achievement and then the pandemic happened we said oh yeah we really need to do this so um so what they've asked us to do now is to kind of say all right what have you done and what are you going to do kind of next so um i'll just quickly tell you you know our subgroup was our students with special needs so those are students on ieps our students on 504s and what we really want to see is can we help reduce those rates in our upper grade levels around those with specific learning disabilities we want to look at growth in our ela scores

048and see you know what areas that we need to improve and how can we improve that as when they get to us so we decided to do the early literacy they gave you a few that you could choose from and we chose early literacy and that the pre is a they said pre-k through our grade three so we are actually doing joseph osgood through grade two um and we really wanted to look at mtss which is another thing that we were working on because we wanted to make sure that we were uh addressing foundational skills uh making sure that we had programming in place to address those needs and then how are we gonna progress after that and that sort of thing that barbara swank is working on um with our team right now to

049kind of shore those up so um this was the original um plan that we had was that we have reading street as one of our materials uh reading street we have all the books but the online component has expired but that's what matters we still have the resources and we have foundations in place which is our phonics program we have lexia which is an online platform which is adaptive and that is all the way from k through five and then wilson training for um for those tier three instruction that we need or special education and that we offered but a lot was impacted by the pandemic um people couldn't continue on for like third certification for two um and so we were asked what kinds of things we were going to measure it by and

050again we're going to look at ela achievement and look at the growth percentile under our mcas but things that we added so we kind of changed things up and this is part of the amendment piece is we always had dibbles eight but we also added the i ready reading diagnostic which went through k through eight and families got that that report last week and then we still are going to continue to look at those percentages students are identifying slv and we're going to be looking for reduction that that didn't change but adding the i ready diagnostic as well as we do i didn't put it in here because because it's not something we'll really be able to use as a metric but we also have the shea with dyslexia screener and both dibbles eight and

051i ready reading both have a dyslexia screener in it so if you were to be flagged through some of these and other um other assessments we have then you would get the shade as a stu the student gets you next and so this is just really what we have done so we could convene the literacy committee in last spring and fought this fall and that was a group of teachers that had already been part of the literacy committee over the past few years um and we had added a parent on to it and um and that was nice to kind of get some feedback hear what was going on we entered a partnership with teaching learning alliance in the spring they did an informal review of our elementary reading program and out of that we

052decided to create some professional development which i'll talk to you about but we also created an instructional leadership team um a literacy team and that started in the fall and have worked together this year to kind of look at literacy and look at our vision for a comprehensive literacy approach and some of the professional development we've done again this is for all but obviously we'll support our students with special special needs we had a full day workshop in the fall around the science of reading and best practices for teaching reading and this is all teachers whether general ed or special education we've had differentiated training for all staff in the foundations our phonics program some of our teachers already had experience others have not so we've been working all year to make sure everyone has

053the same language and understands all the fundamentals technically foundations really goes up to grade three but we felt that grades four and five really needed to understand the program have the same language because they we have been pandemic and they are going to have to possibly teach some of those foundational pieces plus we also really want to focus on symbols and other pieces around small group instruction and then we've had embedded professional development that's worked with k through 5 around the science of reading and conferring with students and we also sent our reading specialist to a year-long coaching workshop where they met with other people around the state and so that's been a really good experience because they've been able to share out and so um i made one of the components of making sure

054that we have stakeholder engagement so i did present to cpac about our literacy and assessment and then we have also contracted with the consultant for a specialized reading evaluation k-8 which involves a survey and interviews with both families and staff so um that will be really informative for us um as we look forward to our next steps um and then just for basically the information about the soa is that i need to tell you so i'm informing you today about what we've done and where we're going i will put this on the website this and we'll go on the newsletter and also um i'm going to click a button because it's due by april 1st pretty um but yeah so it's been really exciting and uh it just aligned so nicely with everything that we

055were doing okay okay okay any questions for duck scones thank you doctor wonderful great okay so at this point i'm happy to introduce our guest saturday of chair mcclellan you might want to introduce them no please do okay so i know we have um the chair of our facilities committee this uh jason earls jason thank you for all your work and in terms of representing the committee i don't know if you want to mention the names of the committee chair mcclellan um in total or maybe maybe mr earls would but they've done wonderful work and from the superintendent's point of view i can't thank you enough for uh your thorough approach and part of which is bringing on our guests here who were uh for a i3 and um julia i'm going to miss pop

056shots we have troy troy randall and julie really say to him really all right glad i didn't try i know we messed it up who have done fabulous work and we've really enjoyed just as an aside uh working with them and part of the visioning process um and uh we've been very impressed by your thorough approach i know i speak for everyone here in class public schools we've worked with so thank you for that and without further ado i'll turn it over to you and i know you have the ability to share your screen and you may do so when you're ready to do that thank you for being here um before you do start um mr randall just um so um mr earls is the chairperson as you noted at the school sales committee

057and then there's there's um there are eight other members i just want to sort of point them out in case people aren't aware of who they are um the two of those members are on the school committee as well it's myself and mr kearney um just because we wanted to get the committee constituted and running when we were first there were different groups that needed to nominate so the school committee had one nomination that was non-member and then two members volunteered to do it um the other school committee appointee was was kathleen burns and we have um we have doug schultz and martin knee uh dr paul schubert who's a former select board member nan roth and jen leske um i think that's everyone okay i think i named all nine yes so that's it's

058a nine person committee and uh they're working hard and uh especially mr earls who uh you know um happened into the the role of chair which is uh which i know is a you know burdensome role so we're all very thankful for that he's running some great meetings we're making a lot of great progress and i think everyone's going to be uh really interested in the information we're going to hear presented by mr randall and mr healey right now thank you okay thank you thank you uh chairman earls karen mcclellan dr sullivan and the school committee members uh we are excited about uh one the opportunity we presented to the uh facilities group last week and uh we're wonderful wonderful group and uh interactive um uh it's been an awesome process so far over the

059last three months uh working with dr sullivan and chairman mcclellan and others in the school committee or the school administration uh and so we're gonna we're gonna give you just a high level uh synopsis tonight um 30 000 feet but just if you're if you're not familiar with us ai3 this just gives you a uh a snapshot of some of the work we've been involved with over the past 20 uh two plus years in the south shore the areas or the districts in blue are districts we have uh collaborated with and uh designing new schools renovations uh and we that's all we do we we design schools we don't design fire stations or police stations it's schools and that's all we've done our entire career so research assessment design about 75 schools over the last

06020 22 plus years so what um what we uh are going to talk with you tonight about is how the entire report comes together so it's really two components one is the physical building assessment and then the educational program assessment so the physical building assessment julie in a few minutes will really get into some of the details of each school and the findings that our entire team which is made up of architects instructional engineers mechanical electrical plumbing fire protection site civil uh all of which uh the entire team visited the uh the three schools the three sites and all the findings that the entire team had are contained within the report that julia will go through we'll also talk a little bit about the educational program assessment our evaluation and a walk through the existing

061building the assessment of the educational program as it relates to massachusetts school building authority and their regulations uh so we'll get into a little bit of detail about how future design patterns when we look at existing schools or when we design new schools how those are part of the assessment and the design of new facilities gives you a snapshot of the process um as mentioned previously we were hired in january uh we set up the entire process with you and the goals uh the information gathering occurred in step two which i mentioned of all of our consultants and architectural team we interpreted those findings over the last several weeks and then report collected all that information into a report in the executive summary that's been developed as part of this process sort of simultaneously and

062working through april will be the formulation and i know dr sullivan and his team has started that process of developing the statement of interest for the massachusetts school building authority for the middle high school so we'll talk a little bit about that in a few minutes but that gives you a snapshot april is the significant month where uh the approvals by the school committee the approvals by the uh select board as part of the statement of interest will occur and so uh the entire process will be essentially finalized in uh the end of april uh for the soi it will be prior to april 29th but for the report and the uh additional information related to capital improvement repairs for each of the schools that will be completed in may so you'll have a final

063report in may i'm going to turn it over to julie just for a minute to talk a little bit about the existing conditions sure so as troy mentioned we've completed a first draft of the existing condition study and as of right now it's 214 pages and we won't go through all of those tonight but we just wanted to explain that we have it divided into these four main topics um the introduction the executive summary and then the physical building evaluations and the educational program evaluations and so tonight we're just going to give a summary which would be that second part executive summary and we'll share our findings from those two assessments we did utilize the scoring system that's shown here from one to six and that was just something that a tool that we use

064to ultimately compare the schools across the district so that would give us a sense of where they fall compared to one another with one being the most critical items and then six being not so critical and this is just some imagery of our report itself so you can see that it includes spreadsheets and diagrams and plans um images of the schools themselves um summary of physical building assessment we just want to preface this by saying when you first walk into the schools and with cohasset middle high school for example when you first walk in it doesn't seem like there is anything wrong with it um which is really a testament to the facilities department and the operations and maintenance that have gone into keeping all three schools up and running um that's been nick and

065his team have been really helpful in providing us with information and just everything that they've done to keep the schools looking the way that they do when we start to peel back the layers though of what we're seeing with the cohasset middle high school ultimately the score fell at 2.8 which is an average of these evaluation categories that we're seeing on the left hand column and so that sort of lands in a potentially critical um potentially critical kind of criteria um and when you think about that it seems good it and it is because anything sort of at a critical stage you wouldn't necessarily need to be using as your school still so that kind of keeps keeps it within the realm of possibility and so looking at some of those aspects that brought the

066score down right from the top the accessibility within the school is a critical issue and that being that much of the school does not comply with the ada or disabilities act standards and that's not surprising um those would have been put in place after original construction of the school and so if any renovations were to be underway that was just something that would have to be updated in order to make the school inclusive for everybody and then something else that was critical was really the interior environment as it relates to air quality moisture control thermal comfort these were things that when troy and i entered and we were doing our assessment it was obvious that some rooms were hotter than others some were colder the air maybe felt moist the finishes were deteriorating in some

067spaces and there was even sort of that smell of mildew which were all just signs of standing moisture and from what we've heard from facilities and administration this is sort of a persistent issue and it's something that they've been maintaining and staying on top of so any sort of pollutant remediation or mold or mildew none of that lasts long but it doesn't stay away either and so those were sort of two really critical areas that brought the score down a lot and we have speculated that if we look at sort of the exterior envelope systems that would be the roof of the walls of the building skipping down a little bit the two to three range first score was also evident that maybe the exterior wall system isn't performing as well as it could be

068and this is ultimately having an even greater impact on the interior environment of the school um and some of those um things that might have impacted the exterior envelope being the original construction of the masonry and so we were looking at the construction documents from the 1950s and notice that this masonry wall construction for example doesn't have continuous insulation which is something you would see in a new building today given that it's masonry it doesn't have any air space in between that cmu backup wall and the exterior brick um and both being porous materials and so those are just sort of leaving water in and as that mixes with the moisture from the warm spaces on the interior you're just getting an excess of condensation with nowhere for that to go and jumping down to

069the mechanical systems which is the other criteria in pink it's no surprise really that that those systems were impacted as a result of maybe the added stress of having to constantly mitigate these air quality and thermal issues so those are one of the top items that stood out to us additionally the electrical systems and plumbing systems that scored low those are really because they haven't kept up with code standards that are now in place or energy standards but again those would have been things that didn't come into effect until the building was already constructed and so again any sort of addition or renovation would signal those to have to be updated as well and then some things that stood out that were good the interior finishes as i mentioned it doesn't look like on the

070surface there's anything wrong and especially in this media center for example you wouldn't suspect that the building was sort of in this potentially critical state and then just looking at the exterior as i mentioned some highlighting some of the critical issues um the brick masonry not being adequate thermally or controlling moisture and the gutters being broken the lack of sealants the foundations being self-grade those are all kind of absorbing unwanted moisture and we did want to point out too something that struck us was just that this portion of the front appears as if it's the main entry which we know it used to be and no longer is so that's just sort of cementing the building from this time period that we no longer are in and so it might be time for an upgrade

071it's actually an unused balcony off of the classroom right now yeah it's it's actually i think the principles all right i don't think he's going to be hanging out of course anything soon yes definitely through us when we first started and then as a comparison just showing something that a middle high school that was designed and built in the last 10 years that has that adequate exterior envelope it has control of solar it has energy efficiency with a lighter colored roof the masonry has that airspace that's required and then it's very apparent that one entry is high school and one attribute is middle school and that's the current abington middle high school yes that was uh we finished we finished a design several years ago but construction uh and probably four or five years ago

072yes and then looking at the deer hill school which fell i guess second place out of three with a 3.6 and that is a sort of not yet critical stage and you can see that that yellow color is pretty prevalent in our evaluation category and that is really the mid-range so a lot of it is recommended upgrades um and the accessibility issues weren't as prevalent at the deer hill especially it being one story the interior finishes again nothing sort of critically wrong but could definitely benefit from upgrades for example the mct that was added in the corridors for the flooring make such an impact and so something we would recommend as a capital repair would be fulfilling the flooring replacements in the classrooms and the art classroom and sort of continuing that level of capital

073improvements the air quality issues weren't as prevalent at deer hill either which we thought was surprising considering that this building was built the same year as the middle high school but we would kind of speculate that just given how much simpler of a form the deer hill is there aren't all of these differing roof levels with opportunities for water to sort of slip into the seams there aren't older high school kids and it's a smaller community so maybe these are all things that are kind of keeping your home running a little bit better than the middle high school and then the only sort of critical category was that mechanical systems and you know that the district has already taken care or taken steps to mitigate those issues by putting forth the bid last summer for

074updated controlled rtu equipment and then similarly the electrical and plumbing categories those would need to be updated just given code and energy requirement and so overall the deer hill we felt was in an acceptable condition in terms of physical characteristics and it could certainly continue an operation for years to come some things we were we did want to bring to attention just to avoid the building envelope reaching a level of critical that the middle high school is at these obvious evidence of moisture sort of starting to collect on some of the masonry care components so we would recommend that some of that moisture water stains meditation that's starting to appear the sort of cleaned removed vinegar washed from the exterior and just making some changes where maybe this window gets a sill pan flashing or

075something to sort of protect that um some of the seams from which you're getting in sealants and water always need to be continually maintained making sure those weeps and flashings at the base of the wall are clean and able to kind of just shed water as needed so all of those things are kind of continuing maintenance items that we will note in our report as capital repair but definitely just to avoid getting to that potentially critical or critical level that the high school's at and then the joseph oscar school ranked sort of in the highest of the three you can see that a lot of sixes um which was not critical at all we felt like the interior environment was very pleasant in terms of its physical characteristics the finishes were very clear clean and

076no signs of degradation it was overall accessible given that the building was built in the 90s it had to comply by those standards and the interior environment was comfortable the lowest score being the exterior envelope also at the dosa boston school and the district is already aware of sort of the needs for replacement windows and roof at that school most of the windows have failed they have this sort of fogged appearance and that's just a result of failed seals where moisture got in between the panes of glass and once that happens the only remediation is to replace the windows the boxes that look appear to be like white just because they're a little bit white washes those are the sixes correct yeah so i guess the lightest squares are actually the best categories for osgoode

077so much less red at the school than the middle high school for example and then a lot of the yellows would be the categories that also just recommended upgrades to some plumbing fixtures or electrical fixtures exterior and the roof sheet metal is beginning to oxidize so that might be an area that gets replaced when the roof itself was replaced you know some of those asphalt shingles have been blowing off and the epdm can be bubbled in some locations so those are all sort of items we'll be recommending in the capital repairs list and then a lot of it is surface level too just a static upgrade so there's water stains from some of these metal components rust that's sort of flowing down the front of the facade onto those light colored panels and those are

078sort of easy fixes where you could put the investigator to just replace those panels they're pretty easy to swap out and same with the windows and by comparison this is hangar middle school um so you can just see that having those sort of clean crisp panels against the brick really makes for a more appealing aesthetic and includes new windows energy efficient windows with solar shades and so this might be something that the osgoode could incorporate and additionally the osgoode is well oriented for solar so that's something that could come down the capital repairs list the that's awesome yeah i will turn it back to troy and we'll go through the educational program assessment and i'll chime in a little bit awesome thanks julie uh one of the things i would just add that you know

079going through the osgood school that is uh that's a fantastic build like as architects going into an elementary school like that with the orientation with a simple organization with that central stair going up and the the co the uh the connection between the second and first floor and the spaces uh interior the classroom spaces daylighting it's really a fantastic build there are some things that need to occur uh just capital improvement projects with because they're at the end of their life but what the bones of that building is fantastic so out of the three that was the one that really stood out as it's not surprising that is that is yeah um so going through the educational program assessment there are as i mentioned at the very onset of the discussion there are many things

080that we look at when going through an existing building or a new building relative to a modern learning environment and they're identified there are over 40 of them we're not going to go through all of them today but there are certainly uh some that we will but these design patterns have influenced the educational environment influence the experience within the spaces so it could be the academic neighborhoods or display and visual connections interior lighting natural daylighting collaboration spaces community spaces project-based learning like some of those things along with the items on the right-hand side which are environmental interior environmental components whether it's technology or lighting efficiency thermal comfort acoustic control a lot of these things have a direct impact on the teaching and learning within the space so as we went through the three buildings uh

081you can see that the uh there are four columns here the left hand column is the uh design pattern the second next column to the right is the middle high school the next column is deer hill and the last column is the osgood school and you can see based on the color coding that julie was talking about with red being critical and then the lighter color which is green on the screen uh that being much much less critical in good condition you can see just from a a big picture standpoint the middle high school is at a critical point relative to the educational program assessment and we'll go through uh these particular design patterns and give you examples and and uh one of which is the summary and so if we step back and look

082at the existing building the spaces within the existing building and their sizes square footages as compared to the massachusetts school building authorities uh summary the template the space summary template that we use for each of the projects uh for evaluation and design this gives you an idea of some of the deficiencies spatially that occur and exist at the uh at this middle high school and you can see that uh classrooms that are 850 to 950 square feet and the massachusetts school building authority recommendations is 670 to 700 square feet in the middle school in the high school and then the middle school they're approximately 780 to 800 so there's a significant deficiency in the overall core program classroom sizes as compared to a classroom that's built and designed today science classrooms similar scenario where a

083typical science classroom is 1440 square feet but the high school existing classrooms are just over a thousand square feet so significantly less than what the msba standard is similar scenario with the middle school science classrooms you can see on the right hand side of the top boxes there's a an extreme deficiency in vocation and technology space and uh you know dr sullivan talked earlier about the fact that uh and alluded to this within the presentation that the specialized opportunities for vocation and a very specific cohasset related marine related specialty programs don't cannot and don't exist because of the space deficiencies in the existing building and then uh additional examples administration guidance there's some deficiency there auditorium drama the auditorium itself is much less in size and capacity than the msba standards of today and then

084dining and food service we'll talk a little bit we've got to have a couple of slides related to that and how that square footage is overall deficient within the middle high school and you can see and graphically on the right hand side of the image the floor plans first floor on the bottom second floor on the top and then the lower level on the right hand side you can see the red which means it's a deficient uh deficiently sized program and the majority of the of the building is in red within the uh within the diagrams gives you it gives you a visual snapshot this is um one of the uh one of the classrooms and uh you can see that you know it's we just talked about the the sizes the deficiency there it

085doesn't have sufficient storage as well it's not appropriately sized there's no interaction within the outdoors there are some actually some interior science classrooms in the building as well and then the flexibility the ability for flexible use is is not apparent and as an example this is the kennedy middle school a general classroom within canada middle school that we just finished and you can see that the classroom itself is purely designed for flexibility and the ability for instantaneous technology use and you can see there are four locations actually one of which is on the right-hand side of the photograph that's not in the photograph but there are four locations for huddle spaces and those are interactive tv displays that small groups the students can immediately go to small groups and work with technology and interact with

086each other in the groups and the flexibility of space the natural daylighting the acoustics the uh mechanical system and air quality is optimum in this in this classroom so this gives you an example of what's being designed today the academic neighborhoods the you can see double loaded corridor uh very little natural daylight uh the wayfinding uh in the space although uh the district has done a really good job trying to delineate middle school and high school within a building that was not designed to incorporate both uh it still latched because of the physical the physical building lacks the ability for wayfinding and organization of classrooms gives you an example this is also kennedy middle school uh related to the academic wing the use of color the use of technology natural daylighting aquaponics hydroponics and environmental

087graphics to really create an environment that's inspiring project-based learning labs that's something that dr sullivan talked about earlier is the deficiencies in having project-based innovation labs within the school this is the stem classroom and it is a single classroom and the deficiencies even within that classroom are very very apparent the next slide is beverly middle school this is they've got 12 academies within beverly middle school each one of the academies has a project-based learning lab that you see here that's connected to the corridor can be expanded to the corridor it has all the flexibility of power utilities as well as the technology connection and then uh this is a project-based learning lab uh obviously it's your your workshop and so the modern lab for students to gain diversity and experience unfortunately this is the setup

088the size of the space and the overall ability to provide a 21st century shop or uh innovation space is uh really lacking because of the physical size and organization space this is very you know it in the south shore marshfield high school this is the boat building uh boat building uh shop that was created uh a few years ago i'm gonna have julie chime in a little bit here okay i'll just jump in here the uh when we were walking around we saw many students using the corridors for collaboration space and that's just a result of them not having somewhere to sit that's outside of their classroom while still being related to the content happening on the inside of the classroom and so we have seen or at least incorporated now in any design that

089we do there's space in between classrooms where students can work in small groups but still have that access to their general classroom we've implemented this either in between a pair of classrooms so each classroom can utilize the space we've also done it where there's access corridors so really anybody within that academic neighborhood it's just an outlet for to really enhance differentiation between the students similarly the display and visual connections are lacking in the school i mean when i walk down this corridor you can't help but wonder but what's happening behind the walls where all of the lockers are and we heard from the high school administration that they don't even use the lockers so that's sort of something that is creating this separation between what's the learning that's happening inside and these again your students

090sitting in the in the corridors because they don't have that collaboration that's that's a feature you see yeah and in contrast even just having at the end of the corridor having a view to the outside does wonders for just recalibrating that your circadian rhythm and seeing the daylight and additionally catching glimpses into classrooms and seeing learning on display has a powerful feeling for the students too if you're in the classroom you want to show that you know what you're learning and you're focused and when you're outside of the classroom you may strive to sort of take that class or be interested in something that they're learning you'll also notice a very uh distinctly the difference between the lockers the middle school they did use lockers but the size we went through a lot of discussions

091with the school committee with the uh building committee about what was appropriate and how to integrate them so they're not they're not just a line of lockers uh on either side of the classroom it really opens up the uh the classroom and you can see the difference even with the small group space to the right um and again we're seeing a class a um the high school corridor just line blockers no use to the outdoors and something that we make sure that we incorporate with all of our new designs again it's just having that connection to the outdoors and it can even be incorporated into the academic curriculum in many ways so there might be outdoor classroom space that one of these larger spaces is connected to it might work hand-in-hand with the vocational curriculum

092or the project-based learning um it just adds such a warmer environment to the interior yeah this is this is where the two programs come together and you've got a central core of common spaces uh that the middle school and high school are separated uh but they come together on either side of the strong court this is the high school side and then your uh your student dining socialization type space it is undersized and a very minimal natural light doesn't uh allow for differentiation uh of use of space and the type of space the senior cafe is a good uh a good spot on the uh atrium area and that's a great step uh in providing that diversity and the expansion of space but certainly lacking and the next slide is an example of somerset middle

093school where a lot of really nice natural daylight it incorporates an educational stair with use of um that space that can that can occur the entire day not just the uh intervals for or for dining and so that's that's the goal is try to really make a space like that uh a space that can be used for education for uh assembly as well as for uh for dining and then your auditorium as we mentioned uh you know it's original to the building uh it does not provide the uh the same uh level of flexibility for you know its use as well as the acoustics the lighting the overall uh performance and seminar use it's really uh back in the day and then there's an example of uh plymouth cell high school uh that has all

094the modern amenities for uh for performance in arts performing arts so in in a statement in collecting all of this information the uh 214 pages the executive summary based on all the components that we've talked about with the educational assessment the physical building assessment we would without any hesitation recommend submitting a statement of interest to the massachusetts football authority for consideration uh their consideration for a comprehensive renovation of new construction thank you very much okay thank you randall mr hilly appreciate that uh mr earls do you want to add anything about uh what the school facilities committee's been doing or anything like that i mean anything i wanted to be a chance you're here yeah so we are in the process of doing the soi we do think that something needs to be done this

095school is very very obvious by this report so that's the direction okay um do any committee members have any questions for any of the presenters or comments well thank you very much for all the work do we have access to this full report if we want it yes okay i would like it um right because i think it gives a better image at home um so many questions um i guess a couple of questions so so this was just sort of like the evaluation in order to decide what direction we're going in right yes with something it's it's elective um it's something the committee the school district facilities committee felt was a necessary first step in ascertaining what the current condition of each building was and we said decided not to focus just on one

096building but if we're going to do it we might as well do all buildings to just be certain as to you know if we are going to make any sort of taking substantive steps in terms of renovations that we have a picture of what needs to be done so um obviously given the report um it's as as mr earls stated it's it's very apparent that that that has just just to interject it's not just to do an soi that report is not just for the high school it's for the entire town to plan out the next 5 10 15 years money wise and the things that joseph osgood needs to get done um deer hill needs to get done any renovations and the upgrades so that the town has a road map and we're going

097to know what it costs and this will continue down yeah it's a really good point and you can see those capital improvements that were highlighted that some in some ways you've already identified some of those you can see some of them coming down the road it's a really good point thanks girls and um um it will also assist us in fashioning a stronger sort of more robust statement of interest to the msba um and perhaps um mr randall or mr haley can just sort of maybe summarize like what we mean by soi like what what what that the purpose of that is and the msba core program yeah so the statement of interest there's a period um each year that the massachusetts building authority opens up to districts for their uh submission and application for

098statement of interest the statement of interest identifies the uh their eight categories identifies the categories whether it's overcrowding or structural issues or knee ask discreditation several uh categories and the district outlines exactly what that looks like part of which is the physical conditions of the building and others are educational-based and repairs and it gives it gives the msb a snapshot of what their what the district is proposing as alterations or review so that they would consider that as part of that court program and so that is if you are accepted into the core program as part of this process typically historically there have been 180 to 100 applicants each year and 15 to 20 are accepted so you can see the the variation that occurs and some districts get in the first year other districts

099have to resubmit each year uh and so once you're accepted into the pipeline for the core program then the process starts for the eligibility period that's outlined as far as the initial steps for evaluating the overall size of the building population uh establishing building committee and so on and so forth and then it moves through the feasibility and schematic design process there's a lot in that in that time frame or that those series of modules they call them uh that just gives you sort of a big picture so i would suggest as someone who i would consider has a little bit more knowledge about this process than the average person i'm feeling overwhelmed by this we might want to figure out what our messaging is to like the people the constituents um it just just

100i'm on a board of a foundation that supports a school that's currently building a new facility so i do understand a little bit about how the msba system operates and i specifically understand how complicated it can be and how difficult it can be to communicate with various stakeholders and constituents of that process so i just i feel like this is a wonderful report i don't feel surprised by anything you told us i appreciate you documenting it so thoroughly presenting it there's no surprise but i feel um and this is just i feel to say it i feel like we have a lot to do to help people understand what this means and part of the first step is the select board has informed me that they have taken on a pr firm that's going to

101help the committee run a website and get the information out to the community as a committee right now we've gone through dr sullivan's you know newsletter blast um some members of the public have reached out so all our meetings online uh we're going to do the cohasset anchor so we're reaching out the ways that we can locally but we're also going to have that pr firm help us with a greater message they sent us an example which just telling if you want to share it with the rest of the committee here that would be great for them to look at it's an excellent website that uh norwood i believe i think it was yes a ton of information i like that exactly the way it's set up it's a frequently asked question section so it's

102everything that we want to do to let everybody know so mr claire you're right this we should know that this is like kind of like the first time that this has been in any public setting other than the school facilities committee you know so this is the early early gestation stages of this i mean where we haven't even submitted the soi yet we will um and and mr earls has made it a point as it just noted we're already starting to look at the website and the website is like it's meant for this purpose for for building schools so people have the information but um up until this point we're sort of at the first substantive step where we're starting to share and so now we'll start to share that it does seem overwhelming whoa

103where did this all come from but um it's really early on and so this the school committee presentation it will fall there'll be a similar select board presentation um and we'll start having at some point there'll be committee community forum forums about this there's gonna be a lot of discussion and discourse community-wide throughout this process um but uh for now we're just sort of sharing the results of what mr randall mr hilly had been working on for the past several weeks um you know which really i mean we did advertise that it was happening but as we see you know a lot of times it's a succinct group of the constituents or the community in town that are actually aware of that um and we'll just it's our job to reach out to them and

104make sure everyone knows and we will but you're absolutely right but just i just do want to point out that what this was sort of like this is like the first small step here tonight uh it was it was it was a fact-finding mission because when the committee first got together i reached out to the town hall and the information i got on these buildings was next to nothing other than the daily facility reports so that's when we figured well we're gonna have to start at ground zero and work our way so we've just been slowly going through this and getting all the information so now that we actually have stuff to present we're kind of gonna kick it into the idea here the roadshow so to speak yes oh yeah a long one okay

105thank you mr larry um mr security welcome sir um mr kenny's been attending virtually but he's uh he's here and we're ready to uh hear any questions or comments you might have about that well first of all something that we supposed to do 10 years ago we did it good news is that we're doing it um i think that's very important to not only see what we have it's good to hear that odds good is in such good condition because it is a really wonderful school and dear health has it's kind of the media it's it's okay this is yeah this is something we've been talking about for years now and it's just good to see that everybody's on the same page that what we need and this has been a great presentation i think

106not only showing the size of the classrooms and how we're limited to our space on education but also too is we also talk about special needs kids and how we're trying to keep them in the system uh keeping them we believe that keeping them part of it is keeping the families together so i think that that is a lot of the part that isn't really spelled out as much as that i think people would want to know that not only that but then you look at the energy efficiency of the buildings um and how much we're going to save when costs talk about like naturals light like in a classroom or because i've you know i have kids in there they're in high school so we've been going around to all these beautiful schools that

107you're talking about you brought up baddington you can just see the natural light coming in it's just it's it's refreshing and uh you know i just think our our kids deserve that and i think that if we could only get all the folks that are over the sports thing right now into here and maybe we should have done it before the sports events so we're gonna have to come up with creative ideas but i do think that uh the consensus isn't talking that you know it is something that needs to be done my question is how long from start to finish do you think that this project that is uh so if um if everything goes that's it yeah it's just gonna say yeah so big building materials are available and stuff right uh you're

108you're looking at uh about let's say you submit your statement of interest this april it's accepted into the court program you have 280 days to go through the eligibility period that's the first module then it will likely be it'll likely be over a year to a year and a half for uh the next phases the feasibility study and schematic design so at that point he transitioned to uh you know approval of an actual project by the uh by the voters by the district and then once approval it goes into the six six module fifth is the project scoping budget so that module probably take from design development to construction documents another year at least to complete the construction documents to bid and then the size of this project is going to be at least a

109two year two and a half year construction process so you can see how that you know you you're at least uh five to six years uh if my math is correct and all those uh out from from here to a completion best case and a bet yes yeah that could be a little deflating because it feels like we're building all this energy up and then there's sort of two years or so before it's even decided that we're going to design something um but you can use that to your advantage you could use that time to foster some community and consensus and get the word out um and that tends to be what districts do when it starts to grind our support for a project before it even hits the streets um and to you to

110your point um that it's it's important to start early like you're starting now uh it was 10 years ago that would be a different different story however to delay the project further you know you're pushing the completion some of that is out of your control because of the msba in the selection and admittance into the program but uh you have uh you have i mean with what we see you have a solid uh case and narrative uh perfect statement yeah yeah and i and i also know this is a good committee and i think the committee's uh really fast against this and uh as well as craig uh fast pacing as much as we can and i would also say that i would think that um this can definitely support this project because once they

111got to know events and you got the right people out to vote you can do it that's just what it is yeah well i i i have confidence i really do have confidence in this community i think it's not going to be an easy sell but i think you just got to understand that when you're talking about the foundation of the town this is where you put your money this is this is where we've got to say that we put our money in this in these kids programs and it's not so that we can say hey we got the best school it's they're functionally run charges the whole district with a lot of enthusiasm energy too absolutely and to know that for the next 10 years we're not going to go backwards we're going to

112go forward so we're going to be we're going to be proactive instead of yeah and that's what i think when i hear a six-year process minimally what is the consequence of delaying the process more money and further deterioration of the facility all right i i get to know i'm not the question what are we going to do with this building that's part of the evaluation that would need to occur in the uh as part of the msb approach the feasibility study yeah that's some section down find out yeah well it's exciting it's exciting mistake i know that's far down the road i lived through the south okay high school i worked at the old one and then in the new one great job it was uh transformative it's like wall-e like everyone looks up it's

113like oh my god there's stuff out there i have no idea um it is it makes a huge difference um and it's wild to walk into a classroom that is appropriately sized it feels enormous um and i think that it's gonna be really important for people to you know feel that feeling i feel like along with a website we need to like tape out some squares and have people physically walk with i think when i get a renovation at home and you like drop shopping this is what my island will look like like this is what a classroom feels like it's spacious and you're not on top of each other and you don't have to worry about your where your knees are you can like just learn and be in your space and it's amazing

114it makes such a difference um i love the approach of looking at all of the schools it gets really helpful and i think it will be helpful for the community to see we're not saying throw everything away and start fresh because that is crazy that's too much um i think this really puts it in perspective and makes it feel more achievable there are projects that we can do at the elementary level and then the high school just so obviously needs to be a different building like it's not the space that makes sense for our best learning and teaching um i don't really have any questions i think the presentation is really clear i like your rubric like a numbered system i think that's been helpful um let's say you're just a teacher um but um

115yeah i just think that was very helpful for me to sort through all of these ideas and i also went to this in school it was already old then so like crazy idea well we have a locker room with showers that work what why would that be a thing you know like kids should be able to shower for the sake of themselves and their teachers um i just think there's so much that can be improved and i do wonder though security like having watched one school get built in front of across the field while the other one still exists and then you can switch like that's just a different amount of land space and layout than we have so obviously that will be have to a a delicately choreographed dance um if if it when

116we get to that point which we hope we do lunch for us will be one of the last districts to do it not the first so we'll learn from what uh what other towns have done that are similar size desi pure uh pure districts that have done uh see what they've done far from the first rotary rodeo once we did it oh yeah i mean we'll be like the last time in massachusetts but we'll have a new school sure okay um any comments or questions for anyone watching that's uh okay okay sorry i know that they're actually panelists so i don't well we'll have to look into that but facebook is where most people i was going to say i don't know that's where like my children watch on tv but i feel like that's

117not where our viewership is paul i won't just say one of the last meetings uh that the facebook wasn't working and so we had to switch that over to but that was only one meeting so most people watch facebook yeah well maybe if we don't have it then we can send it to facebook and we can re-run it yeah this is a presentation yeah yeah as long as anybody gets to take a look because it's a really wonderful presentation so the school facilities committee just like the school committee or the recreation department or any other town committee or department has its part of the town committee and you can go there and go to its page and then you'll have links to various resources one of those things um is this this transition so things

118like our committees charge things like that but and you know um then our meetings are also recorded uh those recordings are available as well but you've seen this presentation is sort of the substance i think of of you know or the most substance types of product from our recent meeting so um yeah so 214 page once i'm done writing it right on the way through right it's there right right right yeah um i don't have any questions i think this is the third time i've seen the presentation so i'm i'm well versed in it and uh it's excellent i think the photographs are very compelling when you compare what another district's classroom looks like to ours or our students sitting in the corridor talking to each other as opposed to a collaborative learning space but

119um first step of many and i can't thank our friends at ai3 um mr randall and mr hilly for all their efforts they've been absolute guiding light and they continue to be a really valuable resource thank you so much you're very knowledgeable thank you which is very very apparent for a presentation and we'll be seeing more of them okay so moving on we have a gift and uh if you want to talk about the gift a little bit or i can do that sure okay so we received a gift um named a thousand dollar awesome blossom on board the fine arts department okay for student contest entries yep potentially it's for it's for the fine arts department and that was the thought right now they didn't they didn't designate the exact um purpose of it

120they're thinking they could go to student entries just um student conscious entries and student recognition from boston and competitions motion clearly passes by a vote of four committee members thank you very much to awesome blossom for that gift thousand dollars thank you and i guess i jumped the agenda no because i don't think there was anything new to add with the student services foreign planning right say something about students you sure may i guess there is something there yeah just processing and thinking um i just want to make sure that our i guess our plan two things um i feel like last time last meeting as we were discussing it um the plan kind of felt to me and i it's just the way i interpreted it at that meeting like shifting away from our

121original intent and some of the ex like ideas and brainstorming that we were doing was more about kind of like what i felt like kind of brochure material for special education and material that i know is provided by cpac regularly like as presentations that are that are sent by very few people despite the best efforts of cpac you know planning um and that's not unique to our district that happens all over the place um and so i just felt like last time we were discussing kind of the direction and what we were thinking perhaps there are two things that need to be done perhaps there are some school committee questions that we have that we could become more informed about special ed like we have done with like the budget process or other kind of

122little mini seminars that we've attended which perhaps would be very helpful for us to have like a a little seminar so that we feel like we're well versed in what is going on this is readily available information but i know that we all are also at work and managing our children in our homes and aren't pouring over the website reading it so i think that could be one separate thing that we do i don't think we need to redouble the efforts of cpac necessarily who is an amazing community resource is providing this kind of opportunity but it was my understanding and i could be misinterpreting the original intention was to kind of make sure that community members are feeling heard and we're trying to problem-solve and become more transparent and not that we are going

123to be able to like sit down in one evening and and fix a system right but like to make sure that people are feeling heard or feeling like they can best navigate this process and it's such an emotional process because it's about your child and we all want what's best for children administration wants what's best teachers want success parents want one's best um i just want to make sure that we are not being redundant in our kind of in our agenda it's not like oh yeah this is how special ed works and we're you know we're soliciting um feedback from the community but then really focusing on this process rather than kind of the responding to the feedback of the people does that make sense it does it does i agree with you i think

124that's that's a great way to um kind of like what's new and fresh you know we just okay we do the same thing every year are we looking at two different ways to get that out there so i think it's a great comment i think one of the thoughts was that we would get a survey out there to think about themes we could talk about part of the issue i think the last discussion we had was just about the open nature of talking about individual cases of students which we can't comment on we can't and people cannot waive their their rights to class we wouldn't be so in in the issue in the instance of transparency like we couldn't talk about it and i don't know that it would productively um i don't think we're

125being productive for the community i really don't i think it would bring them but i think if there are themes that we get that we can better explain and dive deeper into again without making it i get what your point is and we've struggled with that as well and understanding exactly what what you you may want as a committee um that's different from what happens at cpac knowing that we can't do certain things because i say that just in being earnest with without breaking confidentiality we wouldn't be able to even comment at all on some of those individual cases that might come up um which can't so so that is um that's something for you to consider it's like i like the idea of diving into the theme but it is going to be about

126processing in whatever thing may be and it's going to be about how we can better our district around that particular thing it can't be about an individual situation and what we will or or or haven't done or might do or right because we just we can't we can't engage in that because of our confidentiality laws am i correct to that doc yes that feels more closely aligned with our original discussion i just felt in the past perhaps two meetings it had it had i don't know morphed it felt like it was swinging a little more towards kind of this like what i described as like a brochure like you know this could be more delivered in like a trifold of like here's what special ed means and i think that that is covered in a

127lot of different ways but yeah i just i really want to make sure that we stay focused on being responsive to the community so in gathering the information and focusing on those themes and really obviously highlighting that in an agenda beforehand and less about here's how special ed works and like a kind of outline bulleted presentation because that's covered in in different areas it is i do think there's some misunderstandings out there about certain elements of special education that might be very uh very informative to to the community but i do understand what you're saying it's not that it's not i mean it is available they can find it but it's just in the presentation of it and allowing them the opportunity to ask questions i do agree with you that that isn't very different

128than what happens at a cpac meeting but i guess with what i just said and with what you're saying we're struggling a little bit to to create a forum for you that will get to your um your initial goals right and so so it would be nice to talk a little more about what what the expected outcome of the meeting is knowing what we can and can't do i would like to also offer that i don't think that initial goals necessarily need to be like things that we have to do written in stone like if we decide that maybe that initial goal isn't the best way to actually serve the community then i think that needs to be okay and i don't you know i mean i feel like there's always historically been a lot

129of emphasis placed on green on goals and i don't i would rather [Music] focus on delivering what really is needed even if that's a change in course i want to make it useful so one thing i will offer for consideration and i think we can all just think about it i don't need i don't think it necessarily needs to be discussed tonight in depth is maybe it sort of shifts to like a forum about literacy because it seems to me that a lot of it is about literacy but we can talk about it another time the themes might be very right you know yeah i think so really it seems that we should let the community feedback probably determine like i think it should be a responsive format in which yes we are hearing a

130lot about literacy right now but i want to make sure that our like setting aside this time for a public forum is responding to what like the interest that we are interested in literacy no problem come on yeah i think i think we all want to make it a meaningful endeavor right and so we don't just want to have it check a box but i think that you know we need to take a measured approach in ensuring that because i think that there is a fine balance between hosting a or an anecdotal gripe session that maybe disseminates information about that that is confidential and not appropriate for you know public consumption um and we need to balance the risk of of hosting that with ensuring that it's a valuable community discussion and initiative and endeavor

131um so that people find value in it um so and i think that basically i i think what i'm what i'm hearing i i left i asked someone to leave this on the agenda until we have it for this reason because i think that there's it is sort of evolving it's good um but it may be better i think it may be more constructive to have a smaller like you know two people from the committee meeting with dr scones sri lanka dr sullivan it's sort of really figuring out hey hey i agree let's figure out what tools we're gonna use to get the word out to the community and get some input from them so that we can have a responsive meaningful forum um but also like what is the best format i don't think

132this is the best venue to discuss that um or the best form to discuss that in until we have more i think refined concepts to discuss and i think i think this is exactly why i left i asked doctors i'm going to leave on the agenda because of what you just raised so can we add that to our communication agenda great great so let's do it okay just yeah just obviously make sure to include the docs of course one time be sure we don't want someone watching it thinking they're gonna participating in it thinking they're going to get one thing and we're providing another and we're i just have to reiterate we want the dialogue but we put some of the dialogue has to happen one-on-one routine of course there's a confidentiality yeah element yeah

133and also we want this to be a productive conversation that brings us forward as a district so all right it's on our next communications account which is taking place april for six o'clock which i emailed you about and we need to switch to those things okay so just a few short days away does that include the superintendent's report so that does that's okay we'll talk later okay so we'll move on to um finance section of the agenda which is essentially a vote on the budget was presented the proposed budget that was presented during the public hearing prior to the school committee meeting i'll turn the meeting to miss owen if there's anything exciting at this point okay so i think we've we've seen a bunch of worksheets we've seen the numbers um multiple times now

134so really what we're looking for is um is there any more discussions totally on our you know proposal for next year's budget or are we ready to take a vote um which would be you know an additional increase of six hundred and sixty thousand nine hundred twenty dollars um three point five percent increase from the town which brings our tenant fy 22 budget to 23 yeah 22 million 344 um okay so if we have i mean obviously we discussed this during the public hearing but if anyone has any additional thoughts um and just uh let's make sure no one from the community has any thoughts they've been sharing i'm just clear do you have anything new to share about the budget yeah okay mr kearney do you have anything new to share follow public hearing

135um for questions probably a question and followed by almost like a statement the fact that we didn't get like what we wanted uh as far as the kindergarten actually is uh frustration uh because it just seems like and then we talk about revenue uh we just don't have enough revenue in this town and you know it's unfortunate that we're we're in this situation and so you've done a wonderful job with the town people that we're instructed to do what they're supposed to do but the bottom line is for me it's it's you know i i don't know if i want to vote for the budget i voted before my time against the budget i just but i don't want to be somebody that's voting against a budget with no no other solution other than you

136know we have to take a serious look at you know what are our priorities in the town and it's not up to me to go up to every uh citizen and ask them if they'd spend a little bit more in their tax bill to get the students what they need here um and i i guess it's it's everybody's job to ask that question to our town to select or whoever it is that makes that decision so i you know i i mean really across wind of like i'd like to not vote for this saying that it's completely underfunded and that would be in line with what i've been saying to the last everybody knows what i say these go ask the schools do not reach to the standards that we should be at um you

137know i look at 22 million million i look at carver at 25 million 24. you know it's 2 million dollars and a difference but we don't know maybe they don't pay their health insurance but our time pays our health insurance so i don't have enough of these answers um because basically i wouldn't have a time in my day to get all these questions answered um but i do respect the fact that uh the people that were we weren't here 30 days ago 60 days ago and you know the request of you know we really had to dive into this and it's come up you know i get i i but i am going to vote for it because i feel like i have to i mean it's you know progress has to be done but

138that said i just think that next year uh you know we really have to look at the revenue strike of how we're going to do this how are we going to because you know i don't see it on the i just don't see it on cutting expenses side all right because like i run a business i get that you know i can't find it here but i could say this with inflation everything like this maybe our property taxes have to go up you know people probably don't want to hear that unfortunately you know you put us in these decisions to make if i could make the decision for property taxes to go up right now and we could fund the school another two million dollars which i think it needs i i i don't know

139how to do it so i'm gonna have to just go with the flow and know that these parents out there that have children in the kindergarten have to spend another thirty five hundred dollars a year is ridiculous and god forbid they have twins like what a blessing what blessing they would financially it's tough there was a reduction in reduction further reducing right at this moment yes so i just i i want to apologize to the families out there that have to pay this um you know we did we did our best i mean i feel like i i just wish i could have done wrong we share your feelings about the difficulty of making cuts in this particular budget is like nothing i've experienced yes just it's like every everything we cut is essential in

140my view certainly your comments about full vk is something you want to provide folks i i've come out and said that that's a i think that's a right that we should have here it's just uh i just want to ask you yeah and i think you know in going forward i think that you know it is a priority of us and you know maybe we even just ask a fan you know subcommittee or somebody that could work on this and find that 300 000 budget because i couldn't find it you know we couldn't find it it's like it doesn't mean so i would invite you know maybe next year that we have maybe a committee or ways to um try to come up with that i'm also grateful that we we have a really good

141school district we do yeah thank you mr saint any additional thoughts nor do i i feel like i adequate voiced my position at the budget hearing uh is there a motion on the floor to approve the proposed fy 23 budget for the collapse of public schools motion has been made by mrs st onge is there a second second oh she's been seconded by mrs caleri all in favor roll call mrs cleary hi mr kearney hi mrs st onge hi hi craig mcclellan mr dial is absent the motion to approve the proposed fy 23 budget has been approved by a vote of four committee members can you just state the amount yes i can of 22 and 345 two dollars all right don't take that down good thank you uh section of the agenda school committee

142comments and communication uh move right into the uh all right excuse me turn the meeting right over to our uh policy subcommittee mr scalia mustangs to present some proposed policy changes so our subcommittee continues to meet to review the policy binder and these are some policies that we present for hopefully we'll put group changes on hopefully everyone's had a chance to review them um if there is any discussion i guess um so i guess for people who are at home yeah policy ac is um non-discrimination in the cohasset manual but then the mass association of school police manual is non-discrimination policy including harassment and retaliation so there's just a little bit more meat on the bones on this one in the mask manual and we have just updated it in a redline version that's included

143in your packet to reflect our [Music] non-discrimination clause that we approved last calendar year um acr we do not have acr the mask association of school committees yeah yeah we've talked a lot about masks it's not this particular oh yeah it's iasc we don't say the other word a anymore a b we recommend deleting the current version and replacing it with the masked version that's a sexual harassment policy um and there's contact information in there that's applicable to our district and j-i-c-k is not in our manual and some harassment of students and again it's updated to include the harass the non-discrimination policy i do not it's largely uh updating it using the suggestion for us which is a wise move i think it's just sort of a renovation of our policy binder um i don't

144have any questions uh any questions no i just want to thank you for this good work okay thank you um i can't imagine saying there's any questions as she uh participated in drafting so is there a motion well we have them listed separately on here but i would like to move that we approve the binder as included here and rather than making four separate votes just oh sorry all of the proposed uh revisions for the policy binder as i just were just presented by mrs cleary is there a motion to that effect made by mr cleary as a second mr uh and i am always cold so if i'm hot then it is hot so anyway the motion's been made by mr kearney and it's seconded by mrs o'leary all in favor aye aye all

145opposed motion clearly unanimously passes and those proposed provisions to our policy binder are adopted thank you miss clearing thank you dr okay moving on uh to reports uh mr clear do you have anything to report i do also on our communications subcommittee you might recall we reviewed a suggested outline for the school committee page on the district website and so that outline lisa radna and i had a conversation earlier this week about that outline and have created a plan for putting content into a draft page like a draft online that we can look at before it's public facing and so that process is underway so thank you okay thank you very much um i'd like to add to the communications update we also um respond to scalia and i've been working with lisa raden to

146develop a survey to go out to district staff so that we could better understand how they might want to take advantage of volunteers from the community so before we ask the community to volunteer we want to know how they are wanted what help is wanted so that certainly was sent out this week to district staff and then next week we will be going over the feedback from staff and then turning it around and hopefully very soon sending a serving up to the community to ask for people to to volunteer and be able to give some examples of how the teachers envision being being helped in support i think it's going to help the community more readily volunteer if they have some some like concrete suggestions nice that's really great work guys thanks so much um

147any updates from security um no i'm just so excited that uh some of the spring sports have started my daughters are excited about it's nice to see uh i know that we're working with the um on the finance facilities to get in touch with the tpw to have a meeting uh we're still waiting for them to get back to us and so i'm excited about that then we can kind of see who's in charge of why i have not heard that yes okay um yes yeah so i think that's been something that has been going on for years and years and years you know who wants to fix what's in charge of this so we really want to get that nailed down to say you know who's in charge of the courtyard should we take

148over management by getting more custodians uh so this is the conversation that we've been trying to have um and it's been a couple weeks now so working on that um i'm excited about we're excited about uh that i was going to ask also two about the screens i know the tvs are up we didn't have a time movement um so i have heard i've been in touch with it um the holdup is they've got to get in um okay so so now that they're telling me good friday okay great well thank you for staying on that i ask my kids every day when they go i don't know it's like there's a screen there is there anything on the screen please tell them i do absolutely so that is something that we're also working on

149so um that's all we got to report okay thank you uh all i have to comment on is collective bargaining we're still in the middle of that process with um several bargaining units um renegotiating their um contract the next contract cycle so um it's an ongoing process we'll probably continue to be ongoing the next several weeks so um aside from that i have nothing to report so we'll move on to the next section of the agenda which is approval minutes i don't believe we have any evidence to approve tonight so we'll move right into uh topics not recently anticipated with a 48 hour meeting i do not have any that i'm aware of but we do have a reason to move into executive session which is the next item on the agenda the reason for

150moving into executive session is number two uh in accordance with uh chapter uh mass general launch chapter 32 21 protection a and that is uh specifically for strategy related to contract negotiations for non-union personnel so with that stated publicly is there a motion to move into executive session the motion's been made by mr kearney is there a second segmented by mrs coleri all in favor aye okay all opposed motion clearly unanimously passes so we will move into executive session uh everyone that's watching um that is the substantive end of the meeting we will be uh reconvening just to adjourn so uh if you log off now you will be missing nothing uh thank you so much for coming and participating and watching everything we will we can reconvene just in person that's right all right

151that's right so we won't have to do that in hybrid format so thank you everyone for participating virtually have a great night