001Next item please. >> Okay. The next item is discussion on policy update policy 511.02 enrollment of non-resident children of Dearborn Board of Education. Wait a minute. Oh, whoops. Enrollment of non-resident children of Wait a minute. Why is it >> Oh, of employee. It's a really bad Okay. Enrollment of non-resident children of employees. Sorry. >> Good evening once again board. Uh so this policy was discussed at the last policy committee meeting. There was just a minor language change to include uh grandparents as well as parents as eligible for this uh benefit to be able to bring their children here to Dearborn. >> Wait a minute. You mean like grandchildren? Sorry. >> Yes. >> Okay. Sorry. The grandparents don't want to attend. They want public school. >> Well, some >> Adult education. That's right. >> Okay. >>
002This is the official bringing it to you as discussion. It will appear at the next board meeting uh as a agenda item. As long as the board doesn't have any questions or changes. >> Trusty Alami. >> So, grandchildrens are they living with them? I mean, I'm trying to get more. >> No, they don't. Um, this was part of the collective bargaining agreements with the unions and so when the board had um changed the policy, this was done a couple uh a year and a half ago and it took us a while to do that through the policy committee and the board changed it. Uh the direction I got was to go ahead and negotiate with the unions. They approached us. So we have letters of agreement with all employee groups that provide them the flexibility.
003So they do not have to necessarily live or be a legal guardian. They just have to be a grandparent of uh they have to be an employee, a current employee and then their grandchildren can attend. So that was negotiated >> and this is all employees across the board. >> Correct. >> So regardless where they live. >> Correct. >> Yes. And so this policy allowing um uh non-resident employees, this has been around since I'm thinking approximately 2006, maybe it was approved. >> It was kind of a trade-off perk when we didn't have the financial ability to give raises. >> Mhm. >> So it's been around for a while. We just it was tweaked through the collective bargaining agreement. Um because when the policy was eliminated, we did not have it in the union contracts. So we
004negotiated with the union. You know, we appreciate the leadership of our union presidents through those negotiations to to get this uh done with HR uh last year. >> Just as a matter Oh, sorry. Is it okay if I >> uh as a matter of like practic just how often does this happen? >> Uh the the students coming or the negotiation >> like how many how many Sorry. Yeah, sorry. How many We have 20,000 kids in our schools roughly. How many um kids in our schools are people who are taking advantage of this policy? >> I'll have to check. I I if I I could be throwing out a number. I don't want to throw out a number that I don't know. But um >> is it a 100? >> It might be less than 100,
005but I'm not 100%. >> Okay. >> And they have to they have to accept the school that has >> Sure. Sure. Sure. >> capacity. >> Yeah. They can't just go and choose, you know, that so the um a matur's office works through it, you know. >> Okay. But it might be like 100 most. >> Yeah. I think so. Again, I I have we had the data before when we did that a year ago. Mason, can you get it for us? 100 popped in my head. >> I think it's less too. >> It's less than 200. >> Yeah, probably. >> Okay. >> So, >> 1%. >> Okay. >> It's not not Well, the reason I know is because when we were looking at it before the approvals in the policy, it was not widespread number. So,
006I'm just throwing but I don't know the exact figure. >> Okay. >> Thank you. And you know just like other I would just say you know the unions negotiate but you know we hear other like in the industry or Ford Motor or other things there's certain things that employees get benefits through their bargaining agreements and so this is a way to get back to our >> this policy does this polic sorry I mean to is this policy um exist in other school districts that you know of I mean or we don't know >> uh I'm not 100% of that I'd have to look but but a lot of a lot of districts in our area in Wayne County though are school of choice districts anyway. way. So, they do not need to do that because
007they're not a closed district. Sure. >> So, the majority in Wayne County, it doesn't matter if you're an employee. We're one of the ones that it does. >> Okay. No further discussion. So, we can go to the next item. >> Next item is board of education business. First one is acknowledgement of correspondence. I do have a late email that we received at 12:44 p.m. Um, and I actually wanted to have that summarized in public citizen participation, but um, totally missed that. So, I apologize to Mr. uh, Darren Casikas. Um, but he uh sent the email to all of the board members so you have all access to it and pretty much in support of the alumni association or alumni club letter that was sent. Uh, and um I do not have other correspondents unless other
008board members >> we just got a lot of emails. >> Yes, we did. Uh, next item please. >> Next item is board member committee and organization reports. Uh Trusty Barry >> finance committee met earlier. Uh first agenda item was the audit. The pre- audit letter from Plant Moran. Uh they met with us tonight. Uh Mr. Jeff Higgins. Uh he's been meeting with the administration the past couple months. He he his team will be returning in September. Then we'll be meeting again in October. And the final report uh it says here due by November 1st but he said probably I will be November or sometime in December he'll give us the final report that's to be continued. He will reach out to all board members not just the committee his team will we also discussed uh
009banking services legal services and we got an update on the state aid funds. Okay. >> Was there anything else you can think of? That was the three items that we discussed. Trusty Petushkov with the building. >> All right, we had the building in sight. Had a very full agenda. Um, first we talked about and I hope everybody picked up their um packets from Quinn Evans, which was quite a uh sizable read if you wanted to look at it all, but I encourage all the board members to at least um read thoroughly the volume one with the summary. um it was built upon the fielding study, everything that they did. So they were um using that information uh to move forward with their um assessments of all of our properties. They were very thorough. Um we
010are now into the Byum and Fisk uh phase with community engagement. They've been doing the one- on-one stakeholder um interviews. So they've identified um community members who they felt could give important feedback to uh fairly generic questions about what they felt um was needed and how they felt about the school district. It was more about how they felt about the things the district were doing and what they saw as needs. The next move will be they will go to a focus group and then they uh with new expanded questions and then a community survey and then at the final stage it would be a community forum. I am going to be recommending that we do have a study session because no decisions are going to be made until we really thoroughly understand a what the
011community um would like to see and b what is realistic and um doable from the studies that we have. So we will probably be looking at going for a study session November December time frame so that um by next year we are ready to uh put out a bond proposal at some point in time. So that was discussed. We also did discuss as Dr. MO said um the Ford naming and all we did was go over the um very um loose numbers of of how much each thing would cost to do from the gym floor to the paintings to uh the hallways and whatever and we got rough estimates of what those would be. we will have to continue to move forward with conversation of of what we uh are prepared to do at the
012end of the day. Um then we um had conversation about property that's at Dearborn High um across by the softball field by the firehouse the the burn firehouse um that happens to belong to the Dearborn public schools but the city has been using it and um well there's conversations about what should be done about that situation. It's been like that for a long time. And finally, um we've also been asked by the police department, they would like to have uh clear direction about what we would like them to do in intervening on school grounds, after school hours, and um weekends and uh what we we anticipate should be their authority. We do have um some guidelines that are kind of generic across um and we may have to revisit a policy um about tightening those
013up so that we can give specific directions to the police about what they should be doing when they encounter certain circumstances after school hours. um because they want to make sure that they're following our um wishes about how how to approach people using school grounds. So that's the the end of that. >> So with that item be discussed at the city relations committee or at the public >> Well, good question because we haven't had a city relations committee meeting. Um I asked that question as well. Are should we put up a list of things? Uh, one of the there the the police department's issues is we don't have a lot of clear signage on property like no trespassing at this time this time that kind. So there are a number of things that we could
014probably have the conversation about. I I don't know who is on the city relations. >> I share that. So I should be calling. >> So we we may want to um yeah convene a uh >> convene a meeting and >> meeting. Yeah. >> Okay. Anything item? >> I No, I just have a question. I don't know if it's moving. Um, >> go ahead. I'll I'll follow you after. >> Um, I have two questions. Uh, Trusty Pichkov is first, is there anything So, is there anything in our policies or that says if the police observe a crime on school grounds that they can't like >> No, they're not talking about a crime. They're talking about what's considered trespass after, you know, those kinds of things. if they see kids in certain areas like we we we
015uh highly discourage to put it mildly um the high school um fields the football fields that have astroturf and but and things that could be damaged. >> Sure. and and are also potentially a hazard, you know, when they're not properly used. And people tend to uh jump the uh padlocked gates and use the the facilities on the weekends and it's it's been a um issue. >> Okay. And my other question is on these Quinn Evans reports that we received, just to be clear, just to say it publicly, they're not confidential or anything. We can or are are they? >> No. So we could share them with members of the public, talk about the contents of them with members of the public. >> I I would be careful what you share at this point because we
016haven't discussed it as a board as to so my caution would be a a generic conversation that they've done a study and and this is what the basic but we haven't they made no recommendations of the kind that we we would be moving on. >> Sure. It's just uh something for us to now take to the that's why I said we need a study session. So if you start sharing things and people have a tendency to think, oh that's what they're going to do. They're going to >> So these reports were not published anywhere else other than >> No. Okay. All right. >> Trusty Barry, >> let me get the easy one out of the way first. Trusty Petraov mentioned surveys. If you get a a call for a survey and there's a very generous
017gift card attached. Don't think it's a scam. I did talk to Mr. Mustin about that. It's No, it's it's a it's a good thing. $125. I didn't get a call for the survey, so I don't know if Did you? No. >> The other thing is uh mentioned that uh obviously if somebody's breaking the law on our property, the police have to act. >> Yeah. But I think we as a board and as an administration need to get on the same page before we answer that question. I just recently moved and the park down the street, not a park, I'm sorry, a school down the street from where I used to live. Beautiful open. There's no gates on the fences. Very well taken care of. Families visit there all the time. I used to walk, you
018know, when when there's no school going on, I would go walk around the track. No issues whatsoever. Where I live now, the other day I went for a walk and another one of our schools looks like the the the playground looks like a prison and it's locked up most of the time. I know we there was a policy that was I wasn't even aware that policy existed. I know Trusty Ojami and myself receive phone calls that people would try to use that track or that playground whatever but they can't because it's locked up. I don't want to get into it today but I think we as a group should address that. What do we want? Do we want to just like lock up every school? I don't think it should be, you know, this school's
019okay, this school is okay, but you cross Southfield and all of a sudden some of those schools look like I mean I mean like high fences and keep people out very very if you want to get into it, I would be more than happy to, but I'm just saying we should get on the same page before we take it to city relations. And all I want to want to address is the fact that some school playgrounds have been um treated differently than others. I have as um president of the Federation of Neighborhood Associations fielded many complaints over the past several decades from neighborhoods who who had issues with playground usage at you know midnight by teenagers who didn't have anything better to do with their time and would go there and hang out and create
020um issues. So the schools their only recourse at after trying several things was to just lock it down. So that might be what you're saying. I don't know. I'm not saying. I'm just saying we have to be careful in making >> somebody's breaking the law. If somebody's there at midnight, I mean there there's there's it's posted, you know, 10 p.m. >> But that's why I'm saying that what we have to do is be careful about how we address these situations and and what that that there needs to be signage >> equitable. We have to be fair. >> We are We have to We have to get on the same page >> because this is not the first time that's come up. Every other year it comes up. I mean, when Trusty mayor Lane was on
021the board, it always came comes up came up a couple times. We just need to What What does that mean? If if some is is is the track at uh Lindberg or Woodworth, is it okay for somebody to be there at 5:00 in the evening? It can't be yes here, no there. >> But we need to get on the same page. I'll just leave it at that. >> Somebody fix his mic. >> What's that? >> No, your mic. >> You're getting feedback. >> Oh, can I Sorry. >> No, it's not your fault, >> Dr. Malo. >> Yeah, just uh my general direction has been to keep them open. Uh once in a while we'll hear of one that got closed and sometimes I get the communication as well and there might be a a reason
022but then we've directed them to open them if they're open over a long period and Mark's here with his operations because sometimes it's being made at the local level and we're just not aware and something may have happened but generally want to keep them open. Now when we did run the summer school we did lock them and we have our students on there during the day. We have to do that for the safety of our students during the day but when summer school's done we open them. And that's been our general direction for all of them. The only ones that I know like the main football fields are locked the big, you know, with the the turf and things like that, but those are different than, you know, the elementary playgrounds to the um, you
023know, the tracks that we want people to use. So that's generally been my direction. I can reiterate with administration, but I'm also happy to have that discussion. So hey, if this is what the board wants, then we'll continue to go that way and make sure that all the engineers are aware because sometimes those things are made happen or andor with the principles too. So >> very understandable what you're saying Dr. Mleo. Is that better? >> Yeah. Wait, wait. >> Okay. Thank you. Whoever did that, very understandable. Well, what I'm saying is before we sit, you know, the city relation committee, it's this, you know, administrators from the city, administrators new public school, we sit across table and we have these discussions. We need to be on the same page before we have that discussion. Good.
024That's all I'm asking. >> So, I'd say if there are no objections, let's review that at the building and site and if if it needs to be a policy, then we move it to the policy committee and then move it to bring it to the entire board. >> Thank you. And after that we convene a a meeting with the city of relations. >> Thank you. >> I I I do have a comment because uh this was brought up with Woodward and I think there was some loitering by um maybe teenagers, maybe adults and and and that kind of impacted the whole neighborhood. And to me it was the the neighborhood was paying the price because some kids were hanging around in the parking lot and uh doing things that they shouldn't do. And this is
025where the police should come in >> 100%. >> Um, in talking to Dr. Mleco, uh, there was a compromise is to open it up and the custodian before they go home lock it, but the parents like there's some areas uh, especially the Woodworth area. There's not a park near, you know, they that's just an area that that's their only park. And actually they're pushing they approached the city about putting um a playground area or playscape and the the city and the mayor's office pushed them to to the board. So they called me because they're a neglected area not because of anything but there's no land over there to be able to have a park. So Woodworth is really critical to that neighborhood and the police need to step in when when there is loitering over
026there. I think a lot of times um we say parks like even the hammlocks still appear in the world people stay longer than they should and they should not be there by 10:00. Uh these are police matters that need to be addressed and we >> absolutely >> and and that's all the I think the police are asking for is to have a clear understanding of >> sure >> what's going on in at each of our schools. >> Okay question. Yes. >> Thank you. Um next item please. >> Next item is board member and superintendent commentary. trusty public >> and I don't like to have to do this but I'm going to address um trustes are >> okay >> uh first I'm going to read something in our bylaws about public expression of board members okay
027sometimes statements imply and I'm going to kind of paraphrase some of this or infer that the opinions expressed or statements made are the official positions of the board the misunderstandings that can result from these incidents can embarrass both the member and the board. Therefore, board members should when speaking on school matters make it clear that the their views do not necessarily reflect the views of the board or of their colleagues on the board. Tonight I was disturbed that you took aim at the ethnicity of the speakers who came up from the um Edel community and identified how you were taking count of who was Arab and who was non-Arab and what position they were taking. I a would like to point out that the Arab speakers, the majority were family members of Mi Mr. Bedum.
028So naturally, they would be of Arabic ethnicity. The two women who spoke are married to Arab men and have a large uh Arab um community sensitivity that they've been um involved in the community for years and their children. are raised in in an Arabic household. And I think it was particularly insensitive of you to use your place at the table to call them out and and their positions on a topic based upon their race. And I think you extended a disservice to the board by making it appear that this is all about them versus us. And you heightened the divisiveness that already was being felt in the community and you extended it from something that I thought we had moved beyond. I have sat on this board since the early 2000s. I live in the
029east side of town and have for almost 40 years in in a I'm the minority in that neighborhood. I hate to see that we are bringing back to the board this type of conversation when I don't think it was called for and I don't want the people who walked out of here tonight and I wanted to wait until they were gone before I brought this up so I wouldn't continue to create an atmosphere of divisiveness but I'm very disappointed that that's where you chose to go for the people who had what I consider a an honest opinion about what was being asked. They are members. My children went to Edo Ford as well and graduated from Ford. There are many in this community who are not necessarily of Arab persuasion that are perfectly capable to
030have an opinion that may differ from yours and biases should not be seen based upon just their either Arab or not Arab. when it comes to those um thoughts that they come to share because all you're going to do is drive more people away from this community and thinking that's what this is all about and and I was very disappointed that that you took that road and I just wanted to share that now and apologize to the people who were um speakers of any of the speakers that it went down that way. Motion to extend the meeting 15 minutes. >> Second. >> Thank. >> Motion by Trusty Barry to extend the meeting by 15 minutes. Supported by Trusty Zar. >> Um, roll call, please. >> Oh, roll call. >> Trusty Aljah. >> Yes. >> Trusty
031Deio. >> Yes. >> Trusty Zaher. Yes. Trusty Barry. >> Yes. >> Trusty Pelichkaw. >> Yes. >> Trusty Mos. >> Yes. >> Um, did you want to speak? >> That's all I wanted. I was watching the clock and that's all I want to do. >> Good. Yeah. Any other commentary? >> Uh, yeah. Um, >> I I appreciate your comments, Trusty Pelichoff. I'll say this. Uh, I thought it was clear that I was speaking on my behalf. Um, I said very clearly when I was spoking speaking that it bothered me. I I said me. Um, I said that's how I feel. I think if people look back, so I don't think there was any um misunderstanding that I was speaking on behalf of the board as far as that bylaw that you brought up. Um, look, there's
032no substitute for the lived experience of being, uh, an Arab American. So, um, uh, living in a neighborhood or being married to somebody, I mean, it's, uh, it's not, there's no substitute for the lived experience. Um, I would uh I would caution people against um trying to uh think that they might understand how we feel. We we from my many conversations and longtime activism and uh work in this city. Um, I was expressing a sentiment held by I think a lot if not the vast majority of people in our community that this is an issue because of the person because of the background of the person that uh we were discussing. And that is the feeling held by many people in the city. And that is the feeling held by um not just his family
033members but many Arab Americans. And it's happened before. And I was simply bringing up what I observed. And I would ask non-Arab Americans in this city to think about how that looks. How does it look when everyone who comes up to speak for the idea of naming something after Ibrahim Beun was Arab-American and everyone who came up with uh reasons uh in my if you've read herrings or whatever was not. How does that look? I would ask the people who came here tonight to oppose this idea, how does that look? Do you take a step back and say, "Man, this doesn't look right. It didn't look right to me." Do you take a step back and say, "Man, how maybe we're maybe maybe maybe we got to reassess. Maybe there's something going on here." I
034wasn't around when they named something after Derek Low, but I can say that it's a lot a lot less reason to name something after him than to name something after Ibrahim Bun. And it's the same thing. And we got people coming up here, right? people who joined a committee then left when it was clear maybe they weren't going to get what they you know I mean this is that is the from my conversations speaking on my behalf the prevailing sentiment in our community about this and other issues like same thing happened like I said with um Ahmad flood six seven years ago whenever that issue came up um that I believe that I was expressing a sentiment held by many people in our community. I ask again for those people who are not Arab-American, how
035I know how it look to me. I ask other people, how did how did that how does that it just doesn't look good. That is not a message of unity to to to do that. It is not a message of of we are all united in this city. How does that look? There were no ArabAmericans who came up and said, "Don't do this." That's the question you'd be asking yourself. Why is there no no there's are there any Arab-American members of the Zel Ford Varsity Alumni Club? I don't know. Maybe there are. I assume there are. They weren't here tonight coming up here lining up to talk. Why? I would defer to ArabAmericans when it comes to how we feel when we see things, how we feel when certain things happen in the community, how
036we feel when we want to be counted, how we feel when certain atmospheres take hold. To me, this was a very uncomfortable night for us as Arab Americans to see that. That was reminiscent of days that should be long past. They're not. That's the reality that I saw tonight. >> That was your interpretation of what you saw. >> Of course, it's my interpretation. But it's my interpretation as an Arab-American. Not doesn't need to be substituted by somebody else's interpretation who's not Arab-American as to how Arab Americans should feel about that. That is from my own again me. I obviously was not speaking on behalf of the board. You didn't need to bring up that bylaw at all. I obviously was not speaking on behalf of the board. I said many times this bothers me. I
037said this is how I feel. I thought I used those words and even if I didn't use those words, obviously it was me who was speaking. But again, how I asked people who are not from our community, how does that look? And to me, as an Arab-American, it looked like, man, we've been down this road before and we need to get past it and we need to talk about it. There's no way we would not have been served tonight if all this happened and we just walked out of here pretending everything's okay and that race had even subconsciously had nothing to do with all of this. a guy who pitched all my respect to Derrick Lo, whatever, but a guy who pitched a game in the World Series and was at Edel Ford for four
038years and nobody is saying anything and red herrings about we got to name Did did was there a was there a uh a suggestion to name something for a female coach or a female varsity or sorry alumni of Ford and people said no. No. Was there a competition between Ibrahim Bedun and and a woman to name and they No. That was a red herring. That was a red herring. And and I've been through this before and we've been through this before when things are coached in terms that are Yes. Yes. We know that unfort not for unfortunately but we know that discrimination, bigotry, race, it's not always explicit. It doesn't happen in front of your face. There aren't signs that there aren't people who walk around Dearborn anymore as much who say we don't want
039Arabs in this part of town. There might be people who say, "We don't want those kids from East Dearborn coming over here." Well, we know what that means. There's euphemisms. We don't want those kids from Fortson hanging up. There's euphemisms. Even if you're not in Dear, if you go to other places in Metro Detroit that aren't Dearborn and they say, "We don't want those people from Dearborn." We know what they mean. Okay? It's all very subtle, but we get it. And it's okay that as Arab Americans, our experiences give us different ears. And my ears and eyes told me tonight, "This is not right." And yes, I said something about it and I was obviously speaking on my own behalf. >> Thank you, Trusty Zar. U any other commentary? If not, we can move to
040the next item. >> Yes. No, I have a commentary as well. >> Uh so on a separate issue, um I will I I'm right now I guess I'm making a a request for uh a special meeting at the college um to review the process of uh our selection of our next president. Now, as far as I understand, under our rules, we don't need to have a motion for a special meeting. Two people, two board members can call for a special meeting at a time and place, and then if four people show up, it's a meeting. Um, but since we're all here and we're in public, uh I'd love to find a time uh where, and I don't see a reason why we can't, since we're all here, to find a time where um almost all
041of us or almost all of us can show up. I'd like to suggest or you know at least start off with uh making a request for a special meeting for uh at the college uh on this Wednesday, July 30th at 6 p.m. Um and just kind of see where people stand on that. Um like I said, uh this doesn't need a motion. Just any two members can call for a special meeting and if four people show up, it's a meeting. Um and business can be conducted. Um, and so, uh, I'd like to start with Wednesday, July 3rd, or sorry, July 30th, this Wednesday at 6 p.m. at the college. Um, and then we would notice it. Our our rules require 18our notice. Um, and this is a form of notice, too. But our rules will
042>> the reason for the meeting as well. >> I'm sorry. >> The reason for the meeting, >> what the meeting's for. >> Yes. To discuss the presidential search process. >> I think that's specific enough. Can I just make one note before we Sure. >> make a um I have I have a concern that we're using a P12 meeting that no college community member is attending and it's very bad form. We generally only leave agenda items agenda items for the P12 at the college or the college at the P12 when it's an emergency kind of situation and not for doing regular business because we could potentially be viewed by college community as trying to fly under the radar with um scheduling a meeting that they're unaware of because they are not this is not their building.
043They're not in the room. >> Well, they're not going to be unaware of it. We're going to notice it just again. >> You're going to notice it during a summer break >> for two days from now. >> So, your problem is the summer, not that we're doing >> No, no, no. I'm saying I don't think it's appropriate to be asking for this meeting not on college ground. >> So, you're saying >> where they where they are present in the room and will know about it. How many are going to notice? But you know, but you I'm obviously Trusty Petlo, you know that calling for a special meeting doesn't need to be even done at an open meeting. So for you to say like is it your position that >> calling it for a special meeting?
044>> No. Two members can inform the chair that we'd like to >> Can a special meeting can be done through an email and say I got a call. >> Right. Exactly. So I'm saying it doesn't need to be done on college. It doesn't need to be done. >> I understand that. I'm just curious as to why we are doing this now. >> Well, cuz I just thought it'd be a good time to find a time where we can all do it cuz we're all here instead of making 75 phone calls. And since we're all sitting in this room and we're all publicly elected officials, we should be able to find a time. That's all. I'm trying to be efficient. Um I could I I under our rules, I could have just sent uh an email
045to the chair and say, "Hey, I'd like to call for a special meeting on Wednesday, July 30th at 6 p.m." And I could have another board member support me and then it would be called for and then it would be noticed. And if four people showed up, it'd be a meeting. And if four people didn't show up, then it would be >> Mr. President, I feel like we're getting ahead of ourselves here. Was that a motion, Trusty Zar? >> No, I'm I'm not making a motion. >> He's asking for a special meeting. >> I'm not making I don't I mean, I can make a motion and then there will be a meeting. >> I'm trying to figure out >> I'm trying not to do that. I'm trying I can I can make a motion right
046now. Yes. And if four people voted on it, then there'll be a meeting on Wednesday. I could do that. But instead, I'm trying to have a discussion to say, "Look, I'd like to call for a special meeting on Wednesday, July 30th. if there's push back on the idea of it instead of the idea that I'm doing it here since we're all happen to be together and it's in public and we should do everything transparently. But I could call for a motion. That's fine. But I'm open to if Wednesday, July 30th at 6 p.m. if you're truly not available but you are available on another day later in the week or whatever, then I would be open to finding another time. That's why I'm having this discussion, but so that as many people can make it
047as possible. But if four people show up, it's a meeting. So that's why I'm looking for feedback right now from >> requires a motion. I'll make a motion. Huh? >> If we move forward on this, uh, can we do it at 7 p.m.? >> Sure. I'm totally okay with 7 p.m. >> Um, is there an another date that you would like to suggest that? Oh, I mean I just the sooner the better, but I mean uh because again our next regularly scheduled HFC meeting is not till August. >> August 25th. So I mean you know that's a month away. So >> this is obviously an urgent matter or at least a pressing matter. >> I'm good with Wednesday at 7 p.m. >> Okay. >> Just for the record. >> Is uh anyone not good at
048with that? If if you're not good with that exact time and you have another time, please tell me now. Otherwise, um, uh, I'll be making a request or we could do it through a motion right here. Either way is fine with me. If we do it as a motion right now, it's a wrap. But I don't want to do it because that would be conducting college business. Really, I could just do it through the normal channel. >> I was going to say I would suggest maybe the the board president could with the suggested time work for all of you. Would somebody have >> not work for me? I have homecoming. I have meetings for homecoming. all weekend. I'm not available the next week. >> How late is that meeting, Pat? >> It starts at 5:30.
049>> Yeah, I was told 5:30 to 6:30. That's why I asked for 7 p.m. >> I have other stuff to do. >> Oh, I'm I'm just asking. >> I'm just telling >> I just want to make sure I got the right information. That's >> I'm committed from Wednesday till next Monday. So, after that, you call all the meetings you want. >> Okay. So, you could come you could >> So, you would be okay with a meeting. Just so I'm looking at the Tuesday, August 5th, you would be available to come to that meeting. >> Sure. >> I'm I'm okay with that because while I believe this is pressing, I would like everyone to be there and that would still be two weeks before our next three weeks almost actually before our next HFC meeting. So
050I'm okay. Is is that does Tuesday, August 5th work for you or >> I'll make that work. Does that work? >> I I have my my phone is not working. I can't get my calendar up. Okay. >> Now, we still have Trusty Watts, but I I hope she would be available. >> Does it work for you? >> It does work for me. Yes. >> Okay. So, I'm okay with that. Uh, you know, uh I'm okay with Tuesday, August 5th that we get together. Um, like I said, that's still 3 weeks before our next scheduled meeting. So, I'm okay with that. >> 7, right? >> 7 p.m. Yeah. So can I then since since as the chair you can do it sort of unilaterally we don't need two people right u to call for a special
051meeting >> I believe so so I could have the college post the meeting >> yeah and that'll also give a lot more time for notice too so they could even post it as early as tomorrow >> sure sounds good >> could you do that okay thank you so thank you sir >> thank you >> and just so we're on the record again if you need to post in the notice the reason for the meeting that it's to discuss the presidential search process >> yeah he does need to got to got to have >> Okay. So, Tuesday, August 5th, 7:00 p.m. at the at the college, obviously. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um I'd like to entertain another motion to extend the meeting. >> Oh, sorry. Who moved? >> So, second. >>
052Uh move it first. >> Oh, sorry. He he moved it. >> Oh, moved by Trusty Barry. >> Support. >> Okay. Let's have a roll call, please. >> Trust Jamie. >> Yes. >> Trusty Drosio. >> Yes. >> Trusty Zaher. Yes. >> Trusty Barry. >> Yes. >> Trusty Pelich. >> Yes. >> Trusty Mos. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Um Okay. Any other commentary? >> Okay, thank you. Um, next item, please. >> Request for information and or future agenda items. Request for information from Dr. Mle. Okay, there's none. Okay, we can go to the next item, please. >> Okay, our future meeting dates. Monday, August 18th, 2025, P12 executive session closed for evaluation. 5:15 p.m. at the Administrative Service Center here in room 12. Monday, August 18th, 2025, P12 Board of Education meeting, 7 p.m. at the Administrative
053Service Center in the Frankfanche boardroom. Monday, August 25th, 2025, HFCC board of trustees meeting, 7 p.m. at the Administrative Services and Conference Center in the Rosenol boardroom. Okay, thank you very much. This meeting is adjourned. Have a good night.