001[Music] good evening everyone uh welcome to the school district of the city of Dearborn meeting on March 10th 2025 it is 705 Secret may I have a roll call please uh truste elji here truste Barry here truste D brosio here truste petkov here truste Watts not here trustees Zar me yes here president mosab here thank you next item please next item is a pledge allegiance to the flag we have Miss Mary Tim the principal of Duval Elementary to introduce students who will lead in The Pledge of Allegiance good evening I'd like to introduce four of our Deval Stars we have very a ton of them but we brought four of us four of them today I have no Emy Estrada from first grade Rand dalan from second grade and fifth graders Isa Dahan and Jillian
002Skidmore and they'll be leading us pledge alance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all great job girl come this way I know we don't have one for one of you so it will be delivered to school Julian great [Applause] job thank you Miss Tim and to all the amazing students at Deval next item please next item is a superintendent update good evening everyone uh hope everyone's doing well unfortunately we have to start on a sad note I'd like us to um take a moment of silence uh we've had a few tragedies over the last month at the end of last month we had a former magnet student who passed away um we've had an
003icon Hajj Ibrahim Bon who has passed away and just learned recently late last week that um former employee principal and board member darl Donaldson uh passed away um actually I one of my first uh substitute assignments was with Mr Donaldson at Becker and I still have a letter of recommendation in my file from Mr Donaldson um so if we could um take a moment of silence in their honor and their thoughts and prayers with their families and loved ones thank you I would also um like to mention that we've received a lot of Communications on the tribute for um Mr bayun and we have a committee that's formed under a board protocol and lamise uh is heading up a tribute Comm uh committee and it spells out all the rules so she'll be working on
004that and I know we've been in communication uh with board members on that as well and uh we president um we had a discussion last week and we decided to put together a tribute that uh David and his team Eric put together in honor of uh um Mr be Mr vun my counselor has helped me with everything he stayed patient with me and impacted me in a dramatic way if it wasn't for him I wouldn't be standing where I am today thank you so much I really appreciate what you did for me [Applause] [Music] I would like to thank my high school basketball coach and counselor for 4 years Ibrahim B he's a very caring individual who has guided me throughout high school and helped me get through many difficult injuries and difficult adversities I
005fac throughout my life overall he's a very inspirational person and role model and he'll forever be someone I look up to thank you very much [Music] Mr redun has been vital to my success at elel for he's not only a counselor but a role model coach and educator I know Mr run will continue to influence upcoming Generations endlessly spreading his his wisdom and kindness his selflessness and empathy over 30 plus years of counseling has positively impacted thousands of students tonight I'm honoring Mr vun who was only officially my counselor for one year but for all four years of my High School Journey he's been there to support me his door is always open and whether you're his assigned student or not he gives you his time and he's dedicated to helping you succeed I'm so
006thankful for Mr bayun because I'm not sure I would have accomplished all that I have if it weren't for his [Music] support uh it is thanks to Mr Bon that many other seniors and I can be confident about our future [Music] uh it is very clear to everyone uh who's met Mr Bon that he values and is always on the side of the students uh with his pure and genuine passion for helping us out whether he's your counselor or not helped bring countless opportunities and kept us on track as we progress through our senior year again I'd like to thank Mr Bon for everything this [Applause] [Music] year honestly this has been the the greatest experience of my life playing for him basketball being one of his he he was my counselor and whenever I
007needed a class he got me it he always motivated me everything I do for hit me motivates everybody in the community [Music] [Applause] welcome comments if trustees would like to say a few words uh trusty bar yes and uh president moip mine's probably going be an extra few minutes please give me the be a littleit len with me I didn't know uh hajim growing up uh I grew up in the South End went to Sena he grew up in low but I always heard about this young man just a couple years younger than I am but his basketball skills uh his basketball and the way I play basketball was a little bit different I played at morning side he played at the mecca that's in Spring wall subdivision uh I don't think uh his boys
008would have came to the south end and play at Morningside Park because it's a little different there uh I'm just going to I got a couple quotes I'm going to read from people that did know him if you allow me please sure uh social worker nearby by District Sue uh and I asked permission from her I saw her at the funeral and I asked permission she said growing up in Dearborn everyone knew Haj juice beun Haj ibraim juice beun wasn't just the best basketball player we'd ever seen in person he was a mentor a leader and a pillar of our community his love for the game was unmatched and he used it to guide and Aspire the Next Generation both on and off the court my brothers played basketball with juice at foron high school
009and my three sons had the honor of juice coaching them from the ages of seven until 18 uh that's with MBA and that's a Ford High School through his successful career at deral Public Schools juice dedicated himself to Preparing our future always leading with heart wisdom and unshakable commitment to our youth his impact will be felt for generations to come we mourn the loss of a legend this one's a little too long to read but I'm going to take a little couple Snippets u in all the years working for D public schools and this might have to be fact checked he never missed a day I think his 33 or 34 years he never missed a day could you imagine all those winners he went through and people getting sick never missed a day this
010this man that did grow up with him went on to say his passion for the game was contagious and his teams reflected his values of discipline teamwork and sports sportsmanship and effort Hajj broke records everywhere he played he broke records at lari broke records at forson and he broke records at U ofm Dearborn haj's impact went far behind the classroom in the court he made a positive difference in the lives of those around him you find Haj Parks all around the Dearborn area playing with neighborhood children he would go there with his boys and next thing you know there would be many many people lined up just to get a chance to win against a great juice he was he he was with us on the courts day and night dazzling us with his tireless
011abilities he is a legend to all of us that played with him and against him he set the Benchmark because when you beat Jews and that wasn't too often it meant something that's the caliber of class Haj was in that's why we all love to play with and against him it meant something this is a former student recent graduate from etap for high school school he called me late last week he said I never had the honor to play for Coach beun but I would have never graduated high school without his guidance he helped great leaders of his players and he mentored and gave them a scholarship I didn't know this about him but he gave his players a scholarship if they had a GPA of 3.0 or higher this young man was literally crying
012on the phone when he was talking to me a couple years ago I was sitting in my backyard with uh my good friend and former uh Ford member Jim Thorp we were talking there was some things going on with basketball and N so forth and we were just comparing notes uh and all of a sudden Mr Bon showed up knocked on my door dropped off some bread some some of the cheese bread from the from the mosque and then he peaked in the back my wife told him I was in the back with Jim he came in we asked him to come in sit down and we spoke woke a little bit later on Jim sent me a text message saying did you set me up for this I never told Jim I told Jim
013no I wouldn't do that but I never told Jim Mr B was actually coming to check on me he wasn't coming to Lobby me or advocate for his position or whatever he was coming to check on me because during that period of time I was very angry with what's going on if you knew Haim he was a very forgiving man very religious man he understood the power forgiving and moving on just recently a friend a mutual friend of an employee here told me that that employee called him and he was literally crying crying out of guilt he said he couldn't sleep last few days that's what he shared with our mutual friend to that person I say don't worry hajim is a forgiving man all Sam H because I know hajim did there was also
014some community members that actually were part of a pulling some starters of his last team that two years ago and again he shared that with me and that upset me that the fact that those kids were losing the opportunity but he said his exact words Al then the biggest one was when I was when I when I I heard that we need to move past coach Bon because we need to win games in order to change the culture at the building that was a very very hard one to swallow I guess looking back at things there aren't too many games being won but uh the year right after Mr Bon retired from well stepped out or pushed out from coaching at that's a for high school instead of winning games we were breaking up fights
015sad to say but that's the truth I've been hearing that we need to name the gy after Mr beun coach beun or maybe put a plaque in the counseling office or retiring his number a lot of great ideas and I agree with all of the above but to the Educators out there I honestly say if you really want to honor this man continue what you're doing let's let's say let's stop the bullying because bullying Is Real at every level let's all work on increasing reading scores and math scores parents talk to us and they say they're intimidated they don't want to talk to a teacher the principal and sometimes the teachers are a little bit intimidated and they don't want to deal with what what they have to put up with so let's just stop
016that please there is a lot of great people in my life but I can honestly say Haj ibraim was as close as I can say my opinion as close as I can say I'm becoming a perfect human Haj all I want to say is I love you I miss you I am sadden that you went through what you went through the last three years or two years of coaching it at seford high school but only thing I got left to say is thank you president M thank you trusty J you know it's it's it's amazing how much you hear about a person once they leave you hear a lot of the qualities we we knew his quality but a lot of people didn't know his qualities he's a given person I mean he's he's KN
017one for basketball and I'll say this about basketball and make it sure he was the Iverson before Iverson he was the curry before Curry I mean he was a very talented player and I coached against him or I yeah I coached against him he was a player I was a coach and we had to put two three people on him so that's the basketball side of it but from a human side of it uh he gave so much of his salary to kids uh he was there for kids he was a very humble person and so instead of us talking about his achievement because you know I'm repeating I was at the funeral and I know trusty Barry was there and they said so many things uh he taught Sunday school for 30 years he
018never missed the day uh in at school for 30 years that's an amazing accomplishment uh he was a coach and a counselor imagine a coach and a counselor the mentoring the coaching that you provide to kids so why not honor him why not leave his legacy you know and I'm glad that the district is is having a committee to consider that and and trusty Barry mentioned something I wasn't going to mench he was pushed out of etel Ford he was really pushed out of ET so Ford and he was heartbroken by it so in saying that let's make up for let's honor him and I'm going to add one more thing I mean he was a great player at forson you know that trusty Barry they never um put him on the Hall of Fame
019he's very very deserving let's consider that too so my point is yes we could talk about him but let's leave a legacy for him let's let's let's do something for him that would show that we care about him in a legacy of Hajj B would be there thank you thank you uh trusty Barry and trusty j i I can't add much to what you have said about um he had an impact on my family members who he has celled um actually uh my son Omar was a Mr B was his counselor um and he uh Can't Stop talking about how amazing he has been for him since he arrived at etel for um it is with with heavy hearts that we uh we say goodbye to Mr beun and uh we definitely want to honor
020him and we want the best uh Legacy for him to stay at etel and at foron so I'd welcome the trustees input to the committee to Mr Roar as well as any Community member who has uh who had relationships with Mr beun if they have any ideas that they'd like to add or if they want to be part of that committee they can definitely contact the superintendent's office um and we'll we'll have place for them so thank you next item superintendent thank you everyone so we're going to move along uh agenda items uh retirements um we want to both thank and congratulate all of our employees um on their retirement and we appreciate their hard work and dedication over the years we have Heather Bowman over 29 years Kathleen Fleming over 19 years an Gorman
02139 years Mariam Massi arik over or 20 years and Julian pgar um 15 years of service let's show our appreciation uh for them that's fine okay and I'll just move along on my non-agenda items if that's okay Mr President that's all right uh so I know we're about 10 days in um but I hope that um everyone that observes the month of Ramadan has a blessed month with their family and loved ones uh we're very excited in the district that for the first time we did get a waiver for the state and we've put it out there and students are able to get the ifar dinners and bring them home um we've received a lot of positive feedback about that I also just want to mention for anyone here because I know we're during the
022board meeting and you may be breaking fast we do have um some water and snacks and things available on the side of the room right here uh today so again wishing everyone all the best during the month I also want to just say thank you to our social worker it's uh social worker appreciation month and um you know I know president or uh trusty Barry talked about bullying and we have a bullying committee and other things with the social workers under uh Mr saley Dr RAB bazy Gates and all the team that work very hard uh in supporting our students supporting our community uh with the increase in mental health issues and other things we're having so we do appreciate their hard work and dedication I'm now going to call up um my next item
023is on the Google platform in third party applications and I have Mr Addie and Mr kenberg that are going to come up to the podium we have a brief uh presentation thank you Dr moo ladies and gentlemen from the Board of Education and citizens here tonight um I'm Bob Adam the director of instructional technology and with me is Chris kenberg the supervisor of networks and assistant to the regional manager and with us today like that we want to talk a little bit about what we use technology for so there are different state standards that we're able to utilize like the mych standards and the um Michigan computer science standards with the mych standards these are written in grade bands so that we have Early Elementary upper elementary middle school and high school and it's the
024same seven standards across the different bands and so what happens is as kids are learning about digital citizenship this this is integrated into their science social studies and core subject uh areas as well as their extended core subjects it's designed to integrate so that s uh students are able to kind of learn a little bit about how technolog is used do some projects where they're able to do Cooperative learning and work with one another to better understand these with the Michigan computer science standards these are other uh standards that we have as well too that are also K12 but they're written into seven age bands so you've got Early Elementary Upper Elementary there's middle school and then there's two bands with high school as well too with the computer science standards it's written into two
025parts there's uh five standards and what happens is there's the knowledge part paper and app U being able to know what happens with everything and then there's the Practical doing part where students are actually coding and using programs and constructing algorithms these are part of the Michigan Merit curriculum and so it's part of our graduation requirements to have these standards with the curriculum and so as we focus on the curriculum there are different tools that we use one of those being our Google platform as well too in order to provide a safe learning environment for students we take our security very seriously and so what I'm going to do now is turn it over to Chris to talk a little bit about network security so um in order to meet typ of compliance um we
026deploy uh uh what's called DNS filtering uh districtwide any device that connects to our Network here on premise uh would be would fall under the DNS filtering um and then every Chromebook that goes home with the children has an extra layer of uh protection with URL filtering so it's a little bit more precise uh there's there's different things that we we we are more restrictive with student students than uh general staff and um a a big topic right now is data security uh data breaches where is the student data going um we've taken the stance that as a district we um only allow the educationally relevant websites and tools that we use that are approved by uh the curriculum department and some of the other uh educational needs so um by default if a student
027tries to go to a website and sign up for a service using their Google account that is uh normally blocked um and then when it comes to YouTube and streaming um we we are heavily restricted in terms of uh video access uh our preferred platform is YouTube and uh we deploy like a safe search as well as uh like an approval process so even within the Google uh YouTube safe search results um almost uh every other video in there someone has physically like reviewed it and approved it and so keeping a safe environment for students one of the major changes that's taken place this year is the ability to have third-party applications and have parents choose to opt in or opt out and this is something that came fairly recently in uh January 202 before
028there was talk because of uh CA and everything like that where basically parents have the right to look at student privacy like that and determine what's in their kids' best interest with data protection so Google has enacted that parents can opt in or opt out for third part uh certain thirdparty applications so we did send a notice to parents to inform them of these changes that took place now as of January 2025 like that some of the major Services third party applic that were being impacted would be YouTube Google News Google Earth Google translate and Google Maps so what can happen is if a parent opts out of using these Services Chris and my network team are going to be able to opt them out so they won't be able to access them and everything
029what will happen though is if a teacher chooses to use Google Earth to show here's Dearborn Michigan on the map the teacher will be able to show it through his or her account like that but the student will not be able to access anything through through that means and families that opt out their children will not have access to those supplemental apps but um what we're going to plan to do is to have the opt out as part of the enrollment process going forward like that so it's going to be consistent every year like we do with the photography waiver and as a tech team right there we really look at our resources and how we utilize our technology and one of the things that we do is we reduce to the extent that technology
030is used testing and accessing curriculum platforms we have it available for students to be able to use because we never know what's going to happen during the the course of a school day where we might have a partial closure where one building has to switch from in-person instruction to digital instruction so what we do during that time is students are able to access their Benchmark Ela resources or their math great minds resources or science amplify resources so what we've tried to do is to make sure that we provide the best curriculum resources easiest access that's safe and secure for all of our students and give parents that opportunity to look at what they want to do with the third party applications so that's all we had to really share today we just we're going to
031see if there's any questions from the board trusty Barry okay so I mean under safe search how can you convince me as a parent that it's safe for my son or daughter to go on there I mean I I know I heard say that you know that we look at all videos before we approve them but students won't be able to go out on their own on YouTube or how does that work great question on that one and so what we have we have two protocols in place we have a firewall that helps to protect for certain types of traffic and we also have different filters that are in place um so uh in in regards to the videos that are approved so a student at home on their own devices is going to be
032it's going to be open to the whatever is out there AB on the school devices uh that is limited and um you know when videos are made known to us we we we can block them that would be like specific URL blocking or through the YouTube app okay so you mentioned YouTube and a couple other apps what other apps are part of this and I guess the follow-up question to that is moving forward is there any more apps that would be coming at us because every day things are changing we know that that's a great question so right now we were going through what apps Google has identified there's approximately 23 apps that are out there that's it well there's a lot more apps that are out there but what we what Chris was explaining
033before is what we do is we've allowed certain ones to have access to and there's ones that are not used at all in any way shape or form all those are off so no one's been using those in the district of the ones that we've identified there's about 23 that are accessible and the major ones we kind of named right there I'll be able to update uh board briefs and share the the exact list like that so I'm a student in the district and my parents decide to opt me out but I have a Gmail account that I use how does that work do I get locked out of that Gmail account or the good part is you don't get locked out of the Gmail account so you'll still have access to that but if
034you were to try to search YouTube videos you would not be able to go and do that at this time the Gmail and uh the Google SES are all okay like that or the um your Gmail Google Docs Google Sheets those are all okay Google Classroom all the educational the core Google services would still be available to the student even if the parent opts out I I guess you know we're all in support of I know the new world you know not going into we've been in you know technology but uh still a little scary for for parents uh how about a personal information where does that go I mean we're giv we're putting it out there that names and addresses and email addresses and good question on that one so there's different things and
035how we have everything set up full good questions to you I'm just scared this is scary stuff well I mean when you look at um there was information out there uh Mr wall shared with us earlier about 82% of districts have experienced some type of a cyber security incident within the last couple years like that so it's we look at this as something we want to protect data so there's a couple of different ways that we look at this so with Google and everything like that we put in the bare minimum like that like names and student ID numbers like that we don't put in any Social Security numbers or anything like that is there an email address that so we we would have the email address in there for the student email address so
036student email address student ID number first and physical address no the home address and keep in mind uh elementary students they cannot receive emails from outside so it's pretty much teacher and student uh it's only when they reach high school level that they are able to because they're applying for colleges those kinds of things that they can email outside of the sure sure now we know with I mean I'm sure you're aware that the big breach few years ago and I don't know something like 62 million students information was out there and that's still in court so not too much information G out but we know with third parties I mean just us being on social media they're collecting data they're using that information to predict what we're thinking then they turn around and sell
037that data so when you say Elementary student they can't receive emails but somebody's following them until they get to high school now in Middle School do they receive emails they I I believe they're able to receive yeah from select uh vendors uh for uh like uh job planning those kinds career planning Services uh it's more limited at the middle school and then it it opens up in the high school that's the scary part yeah okay thank you that's all I go trusty POF okay to piggy back on a lot of these questions we got a lot of concern as soon as the Google opt out came out recently because it kind of came out of left field and people thought it you know why why now and what's going on here um number one the
038opt out wasn't an opt out of the complete Digital World it was only of specific third- party vendors through Google do we need to even have access to those can we continue to fulfill our obligations of um educating our students with and just making none of that available to any of the students rather than asking parents to opt in or opt out can we find another way to provide that information without having to use that so uh what what can happen right there is if a teacher assigns an assignment on Google Earth to locate stuff and you want students to go on there students would have access to that what the other option would be is if the teacher demonstrates it from his or her account as well too so I could demonstrate Google Earth
039the problem is like with Google translate if students are using those Services they would not be able to translate their documents into their native language like that I guess what I'm asking is is can we rethink some of our curriculum do we need to use Google Translate and Google Earth is there another way to educate our students without having to um hold these types of um applications as the form formulation to educate them with I I understand the importance of our kids being Tech savy because we can't put the genie back in the bottle this is what the real world is going to look like for them as they go out in the adult world and they need to um understand how to use it um wisely and and to um what the variations are
040but possibly we can try to relook at some of our curriculum and not have to waigh so heavily on um some of these uh applications and because my understanding is is if those parents who opt out are opting out we have to give them another option in order to to give them that information anyhow because they have to be on an equal footing educationally so maybe we need to rethink how much of it we rely upon if it's already something that is causing consternation and the opt out from Google doesn't seem to be impacting those things that we really need them to have access to and can we find a workaround and another way of of doing some of this educational experience that doesn't require it so everybody's kind of opted out I'm just saying
041maybe we need to find a balance and make sure that we give the students what they need so that they're technologically savvy enough that we're not sending them out into the world unprepared that they understand how to use it but that we don't rely so much upon some of those things if we already know that Google is saying hey you know what you got to opt in or opt out anyhow because we know that we're vulnerable to a lawsuit at some point down the road if something happens with your child's information I'm just saying maybe we need to continue to review this process and see if there's a way to find the right fit I think that's right I could definitely bring that to instructional cabinet for discussion and we could definitely examine that in
042terms of the resources that we're using and see uh what's the best fit like that definitely and it's kind of an interesting position that we're in right now because of this Google sign in because in the past we've been accused of stifling and not allowing that data to just leave our district and it creates a problem because teachers they might see a new tool and they want to use it and and typically we're telling them no because we we review what types of data they're asking for when they want access to our Google sign-ins and our Google Drives and those kinds of things and so a lot of times we deny them and so we as a district we're taking the approach of trying to scale that back to just the the the tools that
043we need for the instruction kind of in line with what you were just mentioning okay great uh Dr M you want to say something yeah so I just wanted to comment I think we can do exactly that we could look at the 30 party apps look at which ones are more critical and which ones may or may not through the instructional because they will have instructional implications depending on what it is I would say this too I think uh I've see it and you know all districts but not just District businesses are constantly under attack and their team is doing a great job and I know the board's received updates sometimes and they and we have taken those conservative approaches I think we were one of the first sixes right away we moved on two-factor
044authentication and we often will get complaints from whether it's it's students or staff or people in the district why can't I access this why can't we access and we say no and part of the reason we're saying no to different things like our VPN and I don't want to give away all your behind the scenes uh but we get a we get requests for VPN and we're denying it because we don't want expose the district to to problems we will get emails that will come in and they do a good job at then blocking them or getting them off the network as soon as what they're identified so I think we've taken more of a conservative approach um to protect the students and so when the complaints they a lot a lot of times I
045get the email complaint and I send it over to them and they answer and they respond and um it's a regular thing I get but we are taking that stance that no we're not going to say yes to some of these things because we're protecting our students and protecting staff and I I I totally agree I even though I am I do technology development for a living but I do see the harms of too much Tech and that's something that we definitely want to visit because I believe the best and optimal instruction is by the teacher doing teaching analog not letting a computer software teach students so the more that we can move away from software and get back to the basics of the teacher in front of the students teaching is better research has
046shown that um so uh we can definitely utilize technology when it's feasible exams assessments but definitely instruction would love to see our district to be a leader in in saying we going to do it the analog way which is the safest way when it comes then to technology and things well I wasn't exactly saying going to throw the baby out with the bath water I think we still need to um have our students um be Adept at technology and understanding all of the um implications of how of of the best of it I just want to make sure that we don't have so much that were not paying attention to um getting that balance uh of uh integration between your your Basics and what they're going to need in the real world because the real
047world they're going to have to understand AI they're going to have to understand how how how to I'm not saying we disconnect that completely for sure um we but we do definitely want to go back to using the computer as a tool rather than the teacher as the teacher right um and uh I've attended a webinar uh recently that I believe all of you were forwarded the webinar recording where the attorney is talking about tech company iies utilizing these softwares to monitor students and to collect data and that is very concerning for me so uh would like to keep this discussion coming and um jel jmi you have something to add on this so I heard the word fine balance so I've done cyber security I've managed Technologies uh I work for the Department of
048Health which you know Hippa PCI all the all kind of information so we have to differentiate between the data and protecting the data and how we're teaching our kids if we're talking about um technology is here it's not going away we cannot and I'm not saying anyone is saying that but technolog is here but I agree in the sense of how we teach our kids not to rely as on technology to babysit them that's that's something I agree with now with regard to data you have a lot of different systems whether it's I ready weeda uh mstep myar those contain data and those are at risk so what are we going to stop using all those different Technologies data um there's always going to be a tax and the Google of the world probably has
049more armies of cyber security um people than anybody now the one thing that we we want to make sure is how they're using our data we want to make sure we have a legal um something legal that tells us how they're using our data as far as limitting uh the systems it's really how you use the system versus but if if you want to limit the system that means you can't do weeda you can't do I you can't do all that um and you're always going to have risks of data people are trying to penetrate uh systems and I saw I know you have uh input protection that you were going to talk to us later on and so on uh fortigate so my point is there has to be a middle ground but we
050cannot let fear because right now I feel like we're um there's a fear people are putting the fear on all of us and I seen the the webinar truste was I seen the video and I'm still in question what at technology or at Tech is what's their not motive motive is a bad word but what is it that they're trying to help us with I'm still very confused is a third- party company are they looking to help us Sue are they looking to provide a service are they looking to give us counseling I'm I'm still really confused I saw the video they're very talented but I'm still not sure and I emailed you uh Bob I'm still not sure what their um objective is but we cannot let fear Drive um technology away but to
051what the rest of the board said we want to make sure that technology does not become the you know the security blanket for the teachers or for somebody to say okay go on on on the laptop and just do whatever you need to to do so it's a balance absolutely more discussions to have trust yeah I don't have any disc you should definitely ban all standup comedy 100% make sure nobody can watch that stuff um I would like to ask you president MOS if we could suspend the rules and maybe take like a five minute recess so anyone who wants to break their fast can do that real quick and we'll be right back question oh sure sure and then we as I was listening uh yeah we don't want fear to be the big
052factor here but here the Q&A you sent us MH one of the questions that stood off for me is can my child share information with others using Google work space for Education Els it says we may allow students to do that I would imagine at the middle school definitely the high school you want them to engage in conversation with something but the example that was used here is a student can share a picture with the classmate and we know with Google once you put something out there it's there it's not going anywhere and we know know with 12y old and 13y old boys sometimes they get a little foggy and they do things where I mean where's that going what's the protection there well there's a there's a few different things that we can do
053so we have like with certain emails and everything like that there's a a part where we can actually go and review them and everything like that so if there's certain key words that are in there and everything like that we get uh the principles will get notices and everything like that that gets flagged and then with uh pictures and stuff like that we have fault and everything like that so if there's something that's a concern that's out there we can always go and pull those back you can I mean you said there going to be somebody montoring how do you do that well how can you pull it back when it's out in out on the world now on Google with uh as long as it's within the district domain we're able to pull it
054back and everything like that as long as it just you know if I send it to my personal email address and everything like that or want to send there that can be retracted and everything like that but that's the thing like that like if it goes out past that and everything to a private one we can't so by the time you find out about it it's already out there and somebody saved it someplace T typically like a a photo shared would be on a social media or something and that's typically done outside of the school perview and that's fine outside the school yeah um but when it comes to like sharing like I guess I interpreted what you were saying as maybe like sharing like a Google doc or something no no absolutely not I'll
055spot it out I I have a nasty picture and I send it to one of my classmates yeah and it's out there and somebody saves it someplace before we flag it that's possible that is possible so yeah I mean yeah we don't want to deal with fear of everything but we we've seeing what kids are capable of doing just on social media you know Tik Tok and everything else can I just ask if that were to happen it'd be like we would Implement our student code of conduct on students whether it's technology or not we're going to make sure that we're you know too late no I know done you know and I know now in today's the day and age of Technology but someone could technically pass something around the school or something that's
056inappropriate and we would still Implement yeah but it's it's on our equipment now it's in the schools it's in our district yeah I mean there's the liability there too sure absolutely I mean once I mean we just had a case recently thank you I don't if she's still here M she did a wonderful job there I mean where we caught it and deleted everything and we moved on but this when he goes out to the Google sure there is no coming back so okay just yeah yeah t typically that gets distributed through snapchat or texting those types of apps it it no but those are personal apps that the students are doing on their own in their houses or maybe on lunchtime or whatever I'm concerned here and I guess I don't know who I
057think I heard over there like why now why are they pushing so hard with this is eventually going to be making money off of us not that I'm aware of like that it's just there's a federal law that's what prompted this the there's a federal law that set a date in March and so Google is meeting that requirement uh for I believe it's for the yeah third party apps so it was a federal law that started this it was not something that just kind of came out of the blue and so they're forcing us to con uh to confirm uh to get the third party access it was not something that uh they just kind of did on their own the other thing I just want to mention too because we know and we've had
058the bullying committee and we're going to have a a presentation coming up in April we know cyber building and all that's out there we will still even if it's apps that have nothing to do with us but if it's our students engaging we will still intervene on you know in inappropriate posts on these other you know whether it be Facebook or Instagram or SnapChat or these other things we've had to intervene you know really quick s and then we'll no I I think doing technology for such a long time so you have the technology but then you put restriction so for example the Chromebook they shouldn't go to Facebook they should not go to any of these Junior High kids Elementary School they should not have email addresses in my opinion so I'm just kind
059of uh so there's these tools have restrictions that prevent them from doing uh damage even at work there's things I can't do I can't use chat AI at work they limit that so there's things that you could limit to make sure based on what the you know the trustees had mentioned we we're not saying um to just let the kids do whatever they want put the proper restrictions and work with Google to make sure our data is not used but that's all I'm saying well thank you again thank you appreciate it appreciate it uh we will take a 5 minute or 7 minutes break and we'll be back thank