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2025-06-04 | Committee of the Whole Meeting

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2026-02-28
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Wayne County, MI
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2026-06-21

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001Oh, I'm sorry. >> She's always ready to roll. Yeah, >> Stephie, I'm sure you start over. >> They're not doing their jobs over there. We need to start thinking about that. >> Okay, I'll start over. Committee of the whole meeting. Um, uh, Wednesday, June 4th, 2025. It's being called to order at 5:00 pm. Moore is here. Morarski is absent. Morris >> present. Uh, she felt is excused. Block >> here. >> Uh, Fields >> here. >> Oh, we have somebody missing. >> Yeah, we do. >> Hey. >> Oh, yeah. Jeff, >> what am I redheaded child? >> Mark Westfall is also here in the >> Okay, we're going to reook at her uh promotion, her race. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to

002the republic for which it stands. One nation. >> Thank you. Uh okay. Uh item three, revision approval of the agenda policy number 0166. Um is are there any uh revisions to the agenda? No. Okay. Um looking for a motion. >> Motion by Miss Moore. Is there support? >> Support by Miss Fields. Uh Mr. Mardarkski is excused. Mr. Morris is a yes. Uh Miss Shufeld is excused. Uh Miss Block. >> Yes. Miss Fields. >> Yes. >> Miss Moore, >> yes. >> Mr. West, >> yes. >> Okay. >> I think the last time we had a committee of the whole was before he was appointed. So I I think that's exactly how that happened. >> Okay. Moving right um committee um meeting updates. We're going to go with Kathy in the facilities, grounds, improvements, transportation committee by

003Miss Mrs. Kathy Fields. >> Thank you. Um, we also had a finance committee on the 30th, but I'm not going to go into that since uh Dr. Hill will will be presenting the budget uh information during the regular board meeting, excuse me. um the facilities, grounds improvements, and then we added transportation since that's pretty much been combined into one department. And I felt that the board should be made aware of um issues um positives uh what's needed and what's going on in transportation as well. Um it we had a quorum and uh we the Hoover roof has been completed. Work is currently being done on the west roof. Johnson's roof is scheduled for this week since preschool is dismissed from the s for the summer. Meyers and Holland are scheduled for the second week after

004summer dismissal and boilers at West are close to completion. the playground equipment uh is going to be moved to from Eureka Heights to Randall and it's in the planning stage because they want to coordinate the installation of the new 8-foot fence. um uh with with moving the playground. Um, after discussion, the com the committee made the the I don't know if you'd say decision, but we support the superintendent's decision to move the utility department currently on Pine Street, which is nestled in a little neighborhood uh to the now empty Fiser Elementary School, which in my mind that will allow them better access in and out and the whole bit because that's right on Beach Daily. This will free up the 10 plus lots on Pine for some future sale if that's what the board wants

005to do. Um after discussion, the committee supports the superintendent's decision to use Eureka Heights during the summer to house summer programs normally held in the buildings. This will allow the summer's uh cleaning and repair to um stay on schedule. And um since the law states if a school school is left empty and not used for students for three years, if and when the board determines to use it again, it would be costly to the district who would then have to go through the cert certification process again. Um transportation currently transports students to the buildings for the summer programs. So they will just be transported to Eureka Heights instead. Uh, also the committee supports the superintendent's decision to allow Fish and Loaves to submit a yearly building permit to hold their fundraiser Samson's Magic Forest in

006Eureka. Uh, the background is Fish and Loaves feeds many of our Taylor families. It was a staple Christmas attraction in Heritage Park. The city has now chosen to use that space as a rental venue for the city. So, the committee believes welcoming Fish and Lowe's to hold the Christmas event in one of our buildings is not only helping the Taylor families, but also becoming more involved in our community. Um, the improvements there is this meeting and we're going to get a presentation. So, we really didn't go into that. And then in transportation, the committee is recommending that oh, that transportation be added to this group for committees. Uh, Mr. Gardis working with the Eagle Company on the underground storage tank issue. Um, the bus state inspection went very well. And then the results of the

007Wayne County Region 11 school bus rodeo. Nine school districts participated this year. First place went to one of our drivers, Mike Salsbury. Third place went to another one of our drivers, uh, Nan Craig. And these two drivers will now be participating in the state championship on June 14th in Mason, Michigan. All of the participants between the two uh alongside the two were Sarah Carroll, Anna Meyers, Kaylee Lechen, Gina Mccclure, Daroo Hatfield, and John Dawson. Overall, the overall championship went to the Taylor School District. Yeah. So, good job, Jack. And that's all I have. Can I read it fast because I know we got a present taste. >> I do have a quick question. Uh Kathy, um is that for the storage of the Santa's magical forest stuff or for the usage of the building? >>

008The use of the building. They will have the magic. I I didn't I didn't offer storage. >> Okay. >> When when they reached out and then I talked to Mike. Yeah. >> And then I talked to Jack and Jack was all for it as well. Um, I didn't know if that would be a liability issue. >> Okay. >> So, uh, just they were thrilled to death to know that they could have a potential home and not have to keep looking for one every single year. >> Absolutely. Okay. Thank you. >> Did they ask about storage of the >> Not yet. No. Yeah. >> All right. Discussion items. Spartan Melo, you're up. >> Stephanie. Okay. I wasn't sure. >> I know. I know you. >> Yeah. I wasn't sure first name. >> Yes. >> Yep. Absolutely.

009Sounds good. >> Good evening everyone. >> Thank you so much for having us today. >> Can maybe go to the next slide. We'll start with some introductions. Uh I'm Stephanie Hashy. I'm a project executive with Bart Malow. Been with a company uh 24 years. I started as an intern in college and sort of never left. Um most of that time has been in uh building schools in K12 and community college. So probably 95% of my career at Bart Malow. Um, as a project executive, I'm sort of making sure that all the resources are aligned, that the, you know, sort of managing the team to make sure that they're doing what they need to do and checking in with the district to make sure that we're kind of meeting expectations and and just doing what we're

010we said we're going to do. Um, Larry, >> hi, I'm Larry Bowski. I'm director of planning for our K12 group uh at Bart Melo and I spend my entire week helping districts like you uh plan and pass their bond programs that they're they're looking to go out for. So, pleasure to meet you all. >> My name is Brian Jesse. Uh I've worked for Barton Mallow uh just shy of 15 years um my entire adult career and uh currently I lead our technology design group. So mile is unique in that we have a technology design group in house. Um and so it's a pleasure to meet everybody. >> I feel like >> good evening. My name is Kyle Anderson. Uh for over 25 years I served three school districts as the assistant superintendent for business and

011operations. I had the pleasure of working on $311 million of of bond projects throughout that that career. and my role is just to bring my expertise and assist uh Dr. Hill in anything financial that I possibly can associated with this bond issue. It's a pleasure to meet you all. >> Thank you. >> Right. I'm Kelsey Burke. I am the owner of BCI and Cassidy. I'm a longtime partner with Barton Melo. You'll see my name says election specialist. However, I'm also the community engagement specialist. So, that's the the role I'll play with the team. >> And then you see um Alyssa Brousard. She wasn't able to be here today, but she is a community relations manager that works with us at Barton Mallow. That's and we'll talk about kind of her role later on, but she's

012after the plans in place and communicate or construction's ongoing communicating with the community. So that slide. So just a little bit about Hart Malow. Uh this no surprises no excuses. We kind of start a lot of presentations with that. that is like a it's like this stone statue that's in our lobby that we walk past every day when we go into work. And that's just sort of like the ethos that Bart Melo lives by. You know, our goal is that we're constantly communicating so that there are no surprises and we don't have to make any excuses because things are going according to plan. Next slide. Just a little bit about us. Um I won't read them all, but you can see we've been in business for a hundred years. That's something we're really proud of.

0132024 was our 100red-y year anniversary and we have been building schools pretty much the entire time since 2024. We have 130 team members dedicated to schools. Um we're in a bunch of districts across Michigan. A lot of them here in Wayne County, a lot of your neighboring districts. So we know that the area we work here a lot. Um a lot of work in place and one of the most trustworthy companies in America, which is something we're really proud of. Um, Bart Mill is familyowned and has been for a hundred years. So, now getting into the specifics of Taylor, uh, we've had a couple meetings here with your administration talking about, you know, your situation and how we may be able to help you. And we put together a preliminary timeline of how we think

014think things could play out. Um, you'll see that that orange bar, that's sort of the planning phase. So you're, you know, in the unique position you you've passed the bond, but we sort of need to reshuffle the the projects and how things are going to move forward. So we would spend this these summer months basically, if you can see down at the bottom, that's sort of a blow up of what that orange section would be like. You know, we're here today a board of education presentation on June 4th. Um, if we're approved to move forward in June and July, we would be walking your buildings and meeting with your staff, your facilities department to kind of just get a feel of what the needs are at every building in here in Taylor so that we

015can have a comprehensive list and then be in a position to make decisions. So, we'll get the list of what the needs are, what the the spaces look like today. We'll put costs like real time costs to those those lists. Um can see we have a couple presentations, board of education presentations in July and August um where we'll give you an update on where we are with the process. In July and August, we'll be prioritizing. Now we have the list and the cost and you're not unique and that the the list of needs is always bigger than the pot of money. I haven't worked in a district yet that that isn't the case. So we'll, you know, need to prioritize. uh we'll refine the plan in August and September once everyone's back in school in

016September was when we would start doing the community engagement you know sort of piece engaging making sure the community is on board and we'll talk more about that we'll go into depth more about all of this but just to give you the the broad timeline um with the goal of having a finalized plan in October so we can say this is sort of the new plan the the realigned bond and then you can see those bars in blue below it are just potential you know, once we come up with a plan when construction might be. I know the high school was a big priority here. So, we wouldn't want to rush that. We'd have some, you know, a significant amount of design time. You want to give the architect time to come up with a

017good plan, but we want to keep construction happening. So maybe in 2026, the summer of 2026, we find some critical infrastructure projects that we could do just so that, you know, the community sees that we're we're doing things while the architect is working on the design of the high school and then start the high school if that's deemed to be the priority. And then that last bar is, you know, if there's work in other buildings, the middle schools, the elementaryaries, you know, maybe that starts later and that can all be fully adjusted once we come up with what the new plan is and get the boards, you know, you're happy with the plan, the community's bought in on the plan. So, that is the preliminary timeline and then we'll go into a little more detail

018about like what all those different sections entail. So, with that, I'll turn it over to Larry. I just want to take a few moments and talk you through the process that we use. This is this is pretty much the process we use across the board for most districts. I know this is a little bit of a unique scenario, but we're treating it no different than if it were, you know, us starting from scratch. Uh first thing we do is perform what's called a facilities condition assessment, and it's basically what it sounds like. We we walk your buildings. We create to-do lists of of everything that has to get done at all buildings. And we look at everything in a sort of a 10-year time span. look at everything that has to be budgeted within the

019next 10 years in our opinion to to replace and we do that in conjunction with your facilities team. We don't like to just walk your buildings and create our own lists. We like to hear from your staff what is bugging them uh on a daily basis. We feel like that's the most effective way of compiling the the list of needs that that need to get done. Um, once we have the the to-do list done, we put cost estimates to those items. And where we get our cost estimating uh data from is from all those districts that Stephanie mentioned we work in. We're constantly bidding projects out in your neighboring districts. So, we know what boilers cost. We know what doors cost and windows and roofs and and we can put actual real life cost data

020into your budgeted uh uh cost estimates. Um, another really important thing to do is you're going to have your your hund00 million worth of needs or wants that that you have, uh, whatever the number may be, but we can't do it all at once, right? You're restricted by the amount by how fast you can get cash by selling bonds. So, so developing a a plan that matches your cash flow is really important. I don't know if Kyle wants to talk. Yeah, I I would just add too that another important piece would be to make sure that we have a transparent and timely uh budgeting system in place and assisting Dr. Hill in putting that together so our teams are making decisions and not being delayed and you can provide information to the community to provide

021updates on where the bond stands financially. >> Another component that we look at is your building utilization. We we look at your current enrollment data. We look at each room, how you're utilizing each room. We factor that into our our budgeting and our our planning as well. Um finally is, you know, this is this is something the prioritization process is something we really work closely with your team on. Um are there items that are threatening to close school if they're not addressed? Are there boilers that are going to go out? Are there roofs that are leaking? whatever the case may be. Um, we want to make sure those get done right away. Stephanie mentioned some of those critical infrastructure things that'll happen hopefully year one. Those are the things that we work with your team

022to identify what those what those are. Once we have the the full list in place, everything prioritized, Kelsey's team will will go out to the community, engage with them. The goal of this whole process is to create a program that the entire community can kind of coalesce behind. the board, the staff, everyone can kind of agree on this. This is what the program needs to look like for the for the amount of dollars that we have. And uh that's what what Kelsey will focus on later on in this in this process. Finally, once once we've gotten all the feedback, we've whittleled the list down to to the uh amount that you can afford, we um basically draft a a bond application. And I know you've already it's already passed, it's already gone through the process,

023but because it's changed so significantly from that time, it will require some sort of a uh, you know, a resubmitt process. So, like I said, this is this is really the process is no different than if you were going out for a new bond for the very first time. Just a list of some of the items we look at in the facilities assessment uh, process. And and really we're we're not factoring any programming needs at this point. We're not, you know, we want a STEM lab here or a robotics area here or uh addition over there. We're we're literally walking your buildings, calling balls and strikes saying this, you know, this bathroom should be updated in the next 10 years. These lights are about to go out in the next one to three years. Things

024like that. Just one forone replacement type items. as far as uh technology and security. So, Bartmile is unique as I mentioned before in that we're the only CM in the state of Michigan that has a technology design group and and team in place uh under the same roof as as our CM team. So, what that means for Taylor School District is that we'll be working alongside Larry and and the planning team to um ensure that technology and security needs are also like implemented in that co cohesive plan. Um, so we'll be walking the buildings alongside uh Larry and and the planning team. And we'll also be meeting with the technology director and your security director and potentially your curriculum director to to make sure that all of the you know technology needs that the students

025and the staff uh you know touch and use every day are are integrated into that plan. So just whether that's, you know, district-wide systems that need to be replaced in order to provide consistency or it's just things that through the construction process, uh, you know, impacts to the technology that's in place that need to be changed or added. Uh, making sure that those things are are integrated into the plan. Um once we get that plan in place, then we work really closely with the um A&E partners, so your architects and engineers to make sure that we coordinate those designs and design those those pieces into the overall plan. So that means like junction boxes and electrical infrastructure and things that are needed to make the technology work in the classroom are integrated into the plan

026so that we don't have stuff that's added to these buildings or to uh you know to like the high school for instance that are appear to be afterthoughts and we also ensure that they're installed according to you know codes and inspected by electrical and everything as needed you know so the permits are are pulled and all that stuff throughout. So um you know then the last phase of it once everything gets installed we um we go through and do the punch listing and ensure that everything you know is installed per the design and and make sure that it's all working properly for the district. >> All right. So then comes the part of testing your plan again with the community. So how we would implement into this whole process is we would take the project

027lists that have been refined, restructured, the new plan and present that to the community and we would engage a cross-section a large cross-section of your community making sure everybody has their opportunity to what we like to say is put their ore in the water when it comes to the revamp of your projects. So we know that you have done polling already. Um that is something that I would like to see just so we can you know not repeat it right you've done it already so what can we do to engage differently this time we would be saying we have this new plan what do you think of it we test that in what we call focus panel groups that is 10 to 12 groups of 10 to 12 people from your community we will help

028you identify those people you will invite those people um we host them virtually um and it's parents it's staff It's students at your secondary level. Um, it's your longtime residents, it's business owners, elected officials. That's who we want to bring in. So, it's these targeted groups that will ask their opinion about the the revised plan. Then after that, we launch a communitywide survey. Uh, again, that's giving everybody their chance to provide input on the revision that you're proposing and the new plan moving forward. Um, with that, we'll put a report together and do a presentation saying, "This is what your community is saying. This is what they like. This is what they don't like." Um, sometimes we get to move forward. Sometimes we have to kind of revamp a little bit and have a little

029bit of an amendment to the to the application or to the um projects that we're presenting. So, after all that is done, what you're going to do is the continue the communication that you're doing. Your website is updated. I've seen the announcements that have gone out. However, pushing that out to the broader community. Um, my title is the election specialist, so I know who does vote in communities. We know it's typically not parents. Um, we know it's the 55 and older in your community. So, making sure that that message goes further than your website. It gets into the hands of the older population in your your community because they're your voting demographic. So, what you would do is you would share the facts. This is where we currently sit, which you have. Um, this is

030our plan moving forward. And now we've done that. So here is what we have found based on the community engagement. Um and then you emphasize the benefit of that. We gave everybody a chance to share their thoughts. This is a communitywide proposal and then you can move forward with the plan that the whole team has put together and start those projects so you can have a um future focused plan. Okay. And then additionally, like I said, it's important to communicate, you know, once the plan's in place and we're going to start construction, we don't want to just forget about telling people what's going on, right? We want to show them like, we told you this was the plan and now we're implementing the plan. So, we have Alyssa who's part of our team who will

031work with the district and come up with this is just some examples that we've done in other other districts, but you know, you might have a mailer that goes out to the entire community. We'll help with social media graphics that you, you know, share on Facebook. Um, if there's like a newsletter that goes, you know, an email blast that goes out to parents. So, we'll work and give you the content because we found a lot of districts, most districts don't have a communications person on staff because, you know, that's just they don't and it's usually someone's like third or fourth responsibility that they're just trying to do. So, we'll make sure that you get the content, you know, you'll review it all and you're the one sharing it, but we give you that information. so

032that the community stays engaged and and they know what's going on like we said we were going to do this and here's this brochure this mailer and it's got all pictures of all the the cool stuff we've done. So we make sure that that communication continues throughout the process that just says bond update. Um, so just to conclude, why Bart and Malow? Uh, like Brian said, we're we're the only CM that has technology design sort of inhouse experienced financial support. Kyle has, you know, a wealth of knowledge. Any any financial question pretty much that comes up. Um, we can help with uh unmatched CM experience. You know, we're we're the largest construction manager in the state. Work in a bunch of different school districts. Single source solution. So, you know, you hire us and we

033sort of take care of it along with your architect. You do have to have an architect, but we we work together cohesively. And then communication throughout the process. Communication with you all, communication with administration, communication with the community. Like that's just the focus to make sure that we are communicating. Like I said, no surprises, no excuses. Everyone knows what to expect. With that, are there any questions? Well, are we going to have someone on our end that will be able to push through the information that they give us for the community and for >> Yeah. Yeah. We'll be able Yes, we'll make that happen. Yes. >> I like I kind of like the one flyer that says bond update because I don't think people are making when you're sending sending it out of people, you

034know, may not make that connection. This is what they >> Yes. So like you voted in this and this is what we're doing with that money. >> Yeah. Yeah. Communication is very important to to get out to >> all walks of life in our community. >> Yeah. Yeah. And it's important because not everyone has a student and not everyone's engaged in the schools, but they they pay taxes and they live here. So >> that's why it's important like mailings out to the whole, >> you know, anyone who lives here, right? Right. Usually, especially the the older population, usually physical mail is the best way to communicate with them. >> Yeah. No, I because we've been doing a very much an emphasis on being better communicating with our internal people with, you know, our parents and

035that, but I've been struggling to hit that. How do you get beyond that? So, this is a great resource to help us with that. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Perfect. >> Thank you. Any questions? >> All sounds good to me. >> Well, thank you so much for having us. Thank you. Appreciate you being here and for the help. >> Okay. Now, we're going to speak about the nonhomestead election renewal with Mr. Crowley. >> Good evening. >> Okay. >> Good evening. >> Um I don't know if he had Did you load my this PowerPoint up >> that I sent you? >> You have the PowerPoint or No, I don't think you have one. Okay. there. I can I can send it again. >> Oh, I think we're gonna send it right now. >> Yes, you send it

036to Matt. I want to >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> I'll send it to >> No, it's all right. Oh, yeah. You're good. >> Thank you so much. >> Sorry. No, it's all right. >> Okay. Okay, Matt, I sent it to you. to go from here to here. display from Dr. Hill directly into the Zoom. Verify your last name. That's where I sent it. Random. Dr. Hill, if you just send it to me, I can run the power. >> You got it. >> Look at that. You finally arrived. It's like that exercise when you're in second grade. This is how long a knit it is. That was the longest knit of my life. >> Perfect. Thank you. So tonight uh I wanted to talk about the operating millillage um whether we should take any action with

037it. Um if you go to the the ne Yeah next slide. So um since 1994, school districts have been funded under PR A uh which we went to a per pupil funding uh method as you all know. So uh under Prop A we get X amount of dollars for a base foundation allowance. You get other money through categorical items but the base foundation allowance uh for 202425 is $9,68 for each kid. So that actually comes from two sources. So under prop a uh districts are required to levy 18 mills of operating tax on what we call nonhomestead property. So that's excludes personal residences. So this nonhomestead tax we're required to levy each district um is on commercial property basically. um that money comes into the district and then the state gives you the rest to

038get you to the $9,68 per per child. So the the operating tax according to the constitution has to be approved by the voters and uh so every year or not every year but every so often it has to be renewed. Um the constitution says that it can't be renewed for a period longer than 20 years. So Taylor schools last approved this renewed it back in 2017 for 10 years for 18 mills. The problem that we were running into um all over the state uh is the fact that this 18 mills is subject to headley rollbacks. So, header rollbacks is a tax limitation uh provision in the constitution that says that if property values rise faster than taxes or the if property values rise faster than inflation, then we're going to cap it. And they do

039that by reducing your millage levy authorization. Um, so it it it if you didn't do that, schools, municipalities were receiving too much money. So the limitation goes, the problem we have with this is that Prop A, there's a flaw in it. It really doesn't work that way for schools. For schools, the state's always assuming in that formula that you're leving 18 mills, and when you're not, because you're rolled back, you actually lose money. And so if you go to the next slide please. So right now um you guys have been rolled back. So this is had we haven't had to worry about roll backs for many years after the recession 0809 property ma values all over the state plummeted it and gradually they've come back and come back and come back where now they're coming

040to a point where we're we're experiencing these roll backs again. So in Taylor for the last several years you have been rolled back below 18 mills. And so again you're getting penalized. You're not receiving your full foundation allowance. And so for this year if you don't do anything you will lose about $350,000. And so you'll lose it each year until you restore that. the voter ask the voters to restore it back to 18 mills. Once a roll back happens, it's a per permanent reduction. You have to ask the voters to restore that in order to levy it again. The second item you have going on here is that this district with the three other districts around received a portion of the Inkster schools when they were dissolved. Um so uh they that portion was continuing

041those 18 mills that were being levied there were levied by Inkingster schools until Inkster paid off its emergency loans last year. The state in their budget paid off Instster's loans and other loans around the state. DPS got some of it. So at that point, Inkingster no longer leveies the 18 mills for that portion. Taylor, that portion of Inkingster schools is now in Taylor, but we can't levy those 18 mills there until we go to an election where those Inkster voters have a chance to vote on it. So, uh, I try to get I I don't know exactly how much that's the value of that, how much dollars that would raise. We did this last year for Wayne Westland and that number was about $50,000 of lost taxes. So I don't know if that's comparable in

042Taylor, but it's something that So um anyway, that's the other uh reason to reason for the proposal that I'm Could you do the next slide? So um what I'm proposing we've done this with because of many many of our clients of being having this roll back problem and in your case your your authorization doesn't expire for two more years and you're like many districts that we deal with. So what we've done is to go out to the voters and say hey let's replace it not renew it. We're going to replace it. we're going to add we do a new uh authorization that's going to replace what we have. And so we would go out to the voters and say we want to replace the 17 amount and restore back to 18 mills. Now the good

043thing about that is if we do that at the November election this year, we can actually go you are 100% July one levy in Taylor. If we do this in November, we can do one-time December levy and capture that $350,000. So, you can capture that money this year from the voters. Uh the other thing we're doing is we're doing what's called a Headley cushion. We're asking you can ask the voters to approve as many mills as you want. You can only levy 18. So, districts um all over the state are going to the voters and say approve 21 mills. So 18 mills is all we can levy. We have a three mil cushion and that protects us against future headley roll backs. So we don't have this if we just renewed or replaced up to

04418 mills. You're probably going to be in the same boat next year because you it looks like in the I don't see roll back slowing down um in the foreseeable future. So, our districts are doing anywhere from one to three mills of a cushion and we do the math on that to look at what your roll back history has been. Uh, and then kind of figure out what would be a good cushion to have. Takes a little explaining to the voters. Um, but you know, we can do it in a Q&A format. And, and the most important thing to keep emphasizing with this, homeowners don't pay this tax. This is a tax paid by commercial businesses and under prop a they should be paying the full 18 mills otherwise we tailor don't get our full

045foundation allowance of 9 9 $9,68. So, um, my recommendation, I had proposed this to the administration, is to go, uh, out into the November election, uh, to restore or replace, uh, and ask for a, um, headley cushion of two to three mills on that. You go again. So, if we did try to get to the November election, um, we'd have to submit the ballot proposal to the your Wayne County clerk on or before August 12th. So, you'd have to approve this at a board meeting either this month or in July. Um, and then the election would be uh November 4th is the uh November election date this year. And then the next side, and this is what the ballot language look like. We'd be asking for replacement and we explained that um it uh it's

046replacing the current authorization which expires in 2027. Um, and it would be a replacement of the rolled back amount, a restoration of the of the headley roll back and then a three mil cushion in this instance to protect against future roll backs on that. Um, we we think we had a lot of success. I think I did last November I had 12 districts that did this. They all passed uh and it was very successful. Uh the only other thing to think about um not a big fan of these elections. Um people don't understand them. Uh for a homeowner that doesn't pay this tax to vote no against it means they don't understand what they're voting on in my opinion. Um so we can go up to 20ear term. uh like last time the district went

04710 years, but I'm trying to encourage districts to go with a two or three mil cushion, something that would protect you well into the future and then do a ask the voters for a 20-year term so we don't have to run an election for another 20 years, which would be um I think it takes resources and time away from administration to have to go through the renewals. Um so it's something to think about. You could stick with the 10-year if you wanted to, but I've been encouraging districts to go to the 20-year just to put it to bed and get a 20 year. You don't have to worry about it. Any questions? >> Okay, Jeff. Y say too just the when we were looking at election dates to bring this forward um lots of appeal

048about it being in November because it is the general election and it does not cost us as the district to put it on that ballot because there are already other initiatives other elections that will be taking place in the city. So >> is getting the information out that it's not going to affect >> correct. Yes. >> That's a biggie. If stand it we're going to lose it. Yeah, absolutely. I get that. >> So, I I don't know if we need a committee to go together to give this a push because everybody's a little bit shy right now. >> Yeah. >> But what they do need to understand is it's not going to increase their taxes. >> Correct. Absolutely. >> Any other questions? >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yep. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay.

049Public comment. Do we have anyone wishing to address the board? Seeing anybody online? >> No. Okay. Um I would entertain a motion to adjourn. >> Motion by Mr. Morris. >> Kathy Fields. Uh Mr. Morris. >> Yes. M. >> Shoefelt is excused. Miss Spock. Yes, >> Mrs. Fields. >> Mrs. Moore is a yes. Mr. Morarski is excused. And Mr. West Ball. >> Yes. >> Thank you. That passes on five. We have five zero. Uh adjournment at 543.

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