001back [Music] for e [Music] OB for for okay okay [Music] to we're here [Music] Tava County Board of Education special call meeting for the facility stud of review and discussion for March 17th Now call the order you all like to stand for a moment of silence and Allegiance presented by Dr bar to of the United States of America to the for it stands one nation God indivisible withy andice for all all right see the agenda is there need to make any adjustments of the agenda if not I see the motion for approval motion second is there discussion all those in favor so the purpose of the meeting is to discuss the listic study that we talked about for a while our new board members been CAU up on um kind of looked at an OP
002TNA kind of mov sixth grade in the Middle School do some Renovations at other schools mdle school school like that this information for couple of weeks some of us a couple of months uh and just kind of want to bring yall back together to have a meeting just to discuss this we have time on our side this meeting kind of open anybody who they like to bring said he had discuss I'll flip this over to 10 the diagram about that we can that'll help a little bit there we go and maybe just quickly um refresh what this was yes sir what we did the key the key element here and a number of the options looked at this that was six seven and eight the rationale there was for maintaining the current attendance areas the
003the feeders uh it also takes advantage of the one building type you have that has a little bit of excess capacity in the middle schools many of which were built with expansion in mind uh and are kind of construction that then allowed the avoidance at least initially of a number of the projects that would be needed to pick up Capac Elementary so we end up avoiding although this shows lots of potential additions and things happening but initially you would be gaining space in all of the elementary schools and nearly all of them by pulling sixth graders out without construction and so these are relatively sites are a little more ample I will not say that any of them are gigantically large but they could easily accomplish we most of what needs to be added there
004as to where some of the elementaries are little more a challeng smaller sites and so on so forth the one thing we did talk about relative to these was that and this night was within the theater pattern degree of flexibility that you're willing to consider uh yeah I think that di a little better on the wall here because within the attendance area the ability have a little more flexibility to perhaps move some attendance lines and make some adjustments St the um cou with that was I think recognition on our part that some of the new construction that's coming on place from the new developments are going to be in location to on the edge of one Elementary School's attendance area but close to another Elementary that has a little more capacity or might be more
005thinking that would be almost five separate studies you know to get through what makes the most sense there but the goal would be to minimize putting on additions at 15 sites we can be Consolidated now with that I think we also talked about the the phas in aspect of it and that's relative to what you're to look at right now which is purchase of mod units of your building some buildings to comate more some buildings you're losing your parking lot and so but that is a temporary way thing we're looking at you remember the enrolled projection things are starting upward and because of the construction that everybody sees happening right now five years is really where you take kind of your initial level level out point it was a little bit more after that but
006that's really the so how do we things online this is resident and migrant and what we met there is this is pretty much your native bir over to this point in time there the folks that are here the 10 reported this is today yeah and that was about 15800 or so he moved up a little bit you're starting to see it uh but this is five years from now there and right and then you will see that it continues up and has a little bit of a drop off here 10 years some of that could be the byproduct of slowdown that they built out everything they're going to build some of that they haven't decided because people tend not to buy land and hold it for 10 years develop itot money the other aspect is
007underlying all this is native and that's what's happened over the past 10 years that's happened since Co and things have dropped so there's another two things working we got one curve which is that live here folks migrating one thing proba probably contact we originally did and then so we were kind of hoping as we got updates for people sort of level out to more of and as we've been driving around um so it's almost like there's been one every two weeks that pops out a lot places popping up and a lot of construction these have been typically 50 to 100 but what's not happening any disappear so far so for what that's wor anything May at this point a little conservative so the speed at which these things come online and where they're building be
008important when we start to look at all the projects that all the Min projects The Next Step will be like here a map of the next and this this line in here is where we got on the sh fora and then we wait to see if there's a tiing point in time will be ready to do something else H where I can't practically education um watch stens and see need to do one scho other school we get designed ready to go on the table you're ready to pull the trigger that will help us and timately with those what we want to be I think we're sure going to want to be looking that is the issue of facilities B Park cafeteria mold playround Center whatever that is and always throw more classrooms out P more
009mods but you can quickly not have a functional School Beyond individual classroom overwhel that's where our El if we holding attendance feers and and I think so far there that would be what call the option the other piece that been talked about was what we called equity talking about is if someone has access to a to a gym practices before midnight because they've got an auxiliary gym that's an educational i' say for everyone has the right number of science CL or in the cases of St was identified uh was pure capacity because you're going to engl mass social studies uh also Auditorium been a big discussion whether that's at every building or every building needs access to something that's not at all and probably PE which have been many of the older buildings one bigger
010challenges As you move over toies also add C trying to get to a fair and Equitable balance there space always CH make May the other buildings are and so how does that get pH um also added in the diagram here that perhaps moving towards an all weather field in recognition of two things one types are limited right now parking bus drop off circulation some drop an En piece of building Place something on its own foot that again that's another P of analysis so far we've looked at a purely spting bis and purely facil number of sence labs ands SP assist CP like cafeteria so so forth so that's how we come up at this point numbers we're talking about so least and then if you move across the thread for kind of the same four
011big areas so that's really three call it three big objects three Med projects first piece Implement all this really to beever and so that's what in a quick sense what we thought that we should look like we have 16 uh K5 buildings and just over 10,700 seats passer gr capacity of building is 9136 every chair and every can be fill every using your class so what we've done then to create thater is we' taken this you can say well we want to use 80 so this is this is number in the middle schools and high schools we utilize 80% adjustment Factor one is the the fact that you have you block block scheding per day or plus a half or whatever the case may be invariably you have more spaces the students in that particular
012section the teacher at lunch offset that so middle school high school we've used an 80% utilization that kind of reflect the goal was not to have everybody in every seat every room every period perfectly many so what we're looking at is 25,300 seats if these buffers appli 20,700 if you that getze some of those this up here that said Equity right here okay make it a little obvious we're talking about usually increase 9 80 really C set incl one or two CCH everywhere B still working what capacity do we use we have Max foot number every SE [Music] all those can be done we're pretty loud the numbers not only did lower the requ capacity you you're losing as you right so a classroom that in a high school that theoretically stat but if I
013take you know three classrooms and one of them becomes I've lost 15 seats I have two classrooms because you know I've got an autistic population now I'm down by 30 that's so I I Dr pretty fast when I think it's the to hard to work thater we talk about last time which capacity or cler capacity we're bring one grade really great building just for the fact that or not months months they are having abil OPP b six graders are sure enough once they get to middle school so yes and um what I'll say about that is I worked at a six middle school for four years will and the way those schools are set up it's kind of like a not hashtag they had a wing that was six gr kind of isolated seven eight
014on area so they kind of like you do that whe easily sixth graders elementary school as a question about I'll just what we made and 15, I have to Stair tow l are are sure that's another they're all similar it's getting slammed by allies still a lot not as big as a lot of people [Music] we at and these are amazing important we're not generally when we address midd right we're we're trying to stay away from we have original this is just 24 25 onity 200 Milli 300 Milli problem is you that important bring all of middle school simar that's place a renovation it's tempting to look at the worst parts of it something that's leaking or something SP system but honestly once you fix all of those problems and you have addition connects all
015the space makes like the rest is just and all of a sudden it doesn't feel like let's take it on a pig it feels like a cohesive almost new place right because you're not necessarily recognizing piece of that this that's under the the right it's it's part of at there are a lot of times we do s space right we thinking 11 million question mon every we looked at in our Bud we have we did 4,200 drop off middle school and that was only accomodate crazy when it opened they showed up and still so that's that's you see 1.3 [Music] million and put something in there Rel long [Music] issue I think would be wise to separate sixth grade and then by the time there schools are built you kind of have your eighth grade
016team your seventh grade team and your team oncore area cafeteria and the kids go to lunch at the grade level sport yeah sport be together or or Club box Club more team groups yeah so then you have your them bud I think the only question I would have from the Middle School perspective is with with riverbeds I don't know how we would segregate rivered you haven't I counted the classrooms we just kind of look at the number of class right we tried to figure [Music] about I think we just have three there all together right we got right and that's something I was kind of looking at the [Music] numbers so I was kind of thinking you really can't could you have enng and it's all right those shap differ because purpos so the two
017wings that we have I was looking at it it could kind of keep one side of the hall and part of one side kind of do a h shape between the two the same but I just that projection 77 those 24 classrooms that be completely Max at that point three grad that be every single academic classroom we have currently there are few perip that are that number would have to increase probably say about same I just got roll around wouldn't be a complete separation at all again nothing fin design by anyin trying to down possibil certainly no one spend money you don't have to but from our standpoint it would be good to have all five middle schools operating under the same PR Mar floss is going to be six grade be there but be
018separate we probably need a plan for Riv B that may look like as well and River B probably be slightly different if you look at the site it's it has some constraints in terms of where things were so you have a line of trees you have the sports fields that you don't want to blow up if you can avoid it and there weren a lot ofont one field this field and run out of sight so it's a little more challenging another you have places that we actually [Music] yeah and the one thing like you about mve around the building you know one thing I I've been looking at P Center and just kind of wonder what that would look like so if we did come out with that four that would be going into our
019ass currently on the other side of the soccer field we have an area that basically useless old tennis court but between that is you probably just be thinking I would you there bring the driveway around kind where yeah this The Challenge and this came out of the G the we have the other building Street still showing up on the database count well and some of them some of them ship because the county wasn't working properly when whenever you take picture G it doesn't lines are not going to lay where they're supposed do not these hous and this this is the side of the road but the that we start looking at are things like blue L here your flow line inclusions Wetland but this stream really is not too far away creates drainage creat wet
020land I think you have the point that is add on coup places another consideration I may is cafeteria how long your So currently because our 7 grade we start at 11 one group of sth graders s b 11 11:30 11:30 12 our eth grade we got trun 45 minutes all time 77 you ran all four grades in there you know you have have three separate lunches we have currently capacity for 248 students that be 239 you be on another hour 15 minutes start thing here is it's located where can be exension and the other thing that we've noticed at most middle schools most your high schools couple elementaries is you buil for an extra serving line or in some cases two that AR in operation so it becomes not a lot of kitchen maybe half
021hours laor PR Ser um but in many of the cases we're looking at exactly what you're suggesting some sort of expansion to be able to keep it down the re you know it's great to start lunch at 10:30 in the morning you know and the other folks are finishing up at 115 120 cre kind of dam now it's probably also worth mentioning that in in that option 10 one of the things that was important Equity school we were starting to talk about we have auditoriums at all if you have an auditorium at the high school how do you treat the situation with a stage is there an opportunity to make these spaces more efficient uh a lot of the stages weren't in used people had difficulty doing things in them but with the Middle School
022Det high school that might have Auditorium so could be found space could be all of a sudden maybe you don't really need the Shar stage at the middle school level think one or two person who said hey that's really Goods great and it was obviously decision made based on being economical at the time what happens right now building you have two sided St you be open both directions and typically and caer that but you can't use the bleachers on amazing because they're so away they end having you always sacrifice something M ior on one M school one time small building about 400 do you have option to go up every location I think the option going up Mak s if it's a large enough pie there's cost Effectiveness for two stories and you're building one
023Foundation it's a little deeper bu once you're running one set of pipes in the ceing typically of the first floor they go up and they go down so that you're not running out you don't have as much roof downside is I have as much roof also the downside is you're buying stair towers and you're also buying elevator and probably buying an extra set of restrooms when I have students going out like downstairs or whatever location that balancing point is I've usually seen the two story and even three story our last two middle schols were three stories you know two stor St based on that was the most economical model so in some of your cases here even the high school Vision if you can get to a large enough Vision they wouldn't want to do
024it for 4,000 FL but if you're dealing with 10 12,000 fet on a level it makes a lot ofense that kind of thing that's going to be a big part of all I don't think in the middle schools other than potentially AR where my mind is kind of thinking about a TW story Edition coming over that hill and taking out that one running track whatever area is kind of right there probably brings around building all the way now drive back to the are activity bring it down come around con next maybe head tail Bus drop off than dedicated I don't know but that was one way to make that work but again I'm just you have to look at these things brainstorm can happen on that I think you can but I think the idea
025of two stories have particular couple of high schools you and the other advantage of the high school that they're starting to get much larger as especially as stent body so travel time between class to class to class and a on story building walking half a mile to get Mas from the gym whereas if if you've got a multistory building it's a lot downstairs and over half a floor than it is to make that same distance on LEL the reality was everybody knows years ago you everyone was such building you know stud stud way to do that build essentially Corridor one story buil another one when you needed it another one needed that to some degree and two youve got of weird assembly spes where if you look at new buildings High School bu visited you're
026not seeing that mall you're seeing some you're see something you and in the 30 didn't everyone room didn't Elric service you didn't have to worry about the idea was not to get into full renovation bu it was pretty and they make challenges for us how to make those things work sometimes build and sometimes it's droing a building one it's plac in the heart there's a small subsection like you have that Wings you could work around Wing a nice and then recover that St [Music] that would be part of what if if we come up with something here it looks like part you found the building shows you what potential is at those buildings and to get everyone go coverable grade can be accomodated Sports field what it is land available somewhere there's a couple entrance
027a couple sites single house sitting there that kind on property acquisition and open meetings or anything like that saying flexibility what we for kind of hit on this the other night but when you're thinking about more students come to school too your car rider lines your some of the stuff I know we talk about accessibility already being disc places so that would be something that we would need to upgrade too we think about moving more kids there it will help our elementary lines though if we move grade out now depends on how many kids come in but it would it would help but we need some either more stacking or roundabout at Fred for JA SP or whatever that may be at riverb roundout around the school so that would be an additional cost to
028something we have yeah we were looking at we knew that might be a question essentially what we're [Music] seeing the inside they can be dropped in parking lots here here and here other times they can Define the outside sometimes clean kind of neat now come in on the left side through the tunnel yeah it is it works but you're scared to death the first time you drive it that's be a big part some of your sites off circulation none of them driving now 200 I don't know what is I know we Louisville Middle School we needed space for 37 what was the r sh percentage between 17 and 20% all the runs had to be run the way they were set up to go so we had 4200 new construction drop on planes I mean
029I could have the size of an aircraft car one day we dropped an aircraft carer on the site faity think that was very funny that what doing [Music] I'm thinking that may be your transportation line around the school so that gives you a big drop off line inside I think add but we have we pulled it enough to knows train some of these you got a lot of land 20 years ago years ago today SS of the usine years it's like [Music] and that was one when we met people like that might happen you were thinking somay with [Music] typically on you're not building a new building you got a site you probably can look around 12 months long shorter probably the biggest question just double up on fund you knowy she asking do this
030you got here check Mone and everything start and then months because everything is going to be renovated with that you got to field well and that you can do during design you've got the design phase and they they know it's coming um so that's the hardest part is is just enough time to design it wisely um because there there we're starting to fill up the site right we're not like the first building on the site we're like getting near the very end we want we don't want to shortcut the design process so that we don't allow different growth or another use or or [Music] Feld starts to be we're talking two and a half years 2026 school year 2027 school year mid Year's not good but you know you could be there mid year 202
03127 there so you're starting to creep closer very close to that 2029 that show everything coming up you know not a lot of but it's not necessar the cheapest initial PHP 10 15 You' be spending a lot some of the other option we spend a lot of money to main addition and we might be able to solve some of those problems with right so it'll take 24 months to build the entire project but in the first year of construction you might get the classro done and ready and accessible or you know what I mean like you might be able to use your modular in the meantime that are there and build your cafeteria core so that you're feeding the people they can all use the bathroom they can all you know take [Music] shower get
032you the ability to do three big projects do drop [Music] construction a lot of ways that would be piece final plan get here's kids here's some they're smashed into one another at a time how do we accomplish the capacity quickly and then know fill in the blanks and get some of those issu out without moving people off the site making a second project we IM Dan and i' been just kind of sitting talking C this morning I think five years away probably realistically getting six gr with a facility with construction so what does that look like because by the time you plan commission commission get money for it plan it so everything we would be planning would be to kind of be accessible by 20 I think this morning I thought about our current first
033graders may be the first class but yeah so that's why it's hard to wrap your head around but if we have the framework and then we build in the specifics in the next you know U some sometimes we can work with Commissioners on what this code fill will be and they give you all the permission to start planning it then we can dive into what it specifically is right now I know it's hard to work off the framework we're talking about a sixth grade here but building maybe a road maybe um once we commit to the sixth grade and then the the um High School feat what does that look like then work with them all that how much we can get how soon to do the Middle School yeah um I think that would
034be best and then just keep in mind too we don't know if these element kids coming or if they're middle or high we don't know what ages they're going to be for all so we really got to look at so we'll be addressing the core capacity middle school but right in the same regard is our core capacity to high school many high schools legitimately probably be 1600 kids in five years they're 13 plus 13 um so B is going to be a population quick going be capacity quick thanks St what we're looking at there could also be a capacity thing quickly uh especially we got serving lines but the the actual number of kids that sit in the cafeteria um so it's almost like if they're all elementary we can take care of middle school
035then high school but I I don't know if they're going to come in a clean package like that the thing is if you build a good high school and they're com keep [Music] be if you look at the migration around the lake you all have seen it last 20 years it's come up from Eber into Lincoln we had East Lincoln High School in Lincoln County they had North Lincoln that wasn't enough they have Lincoln Char so it's coming up and the question is okay we're keep one B high school then we better come up out of the ground with something big and be ready to put Fields out there new Fields somewhere somehow but I think the bandies in St Peter are going to be the quickest obviously as you can see but we'll need
036to have something right especially in that those communities you're going to be expecting to have somewhere to go and we've assume that the the larger majority of the people that the kids that are moving in probably GNA wait for toward the elementary school but if somebody's fleeing Charlotte me because it's scary or it's dangerous or it's too big or it's not accommodating a high school student gez I mean depending on the reason for [Music] their they could be saying you know what I I need my kid in the country I need him out of Charlotte me school and here he is in the ninth grade and he tomorrow just heard the other day ett one one Corporation looking for 24 currently right now for 240 right now and that was just one organ you know
037so if you're moving here because your job moved or you have to move your kids are coming all right what um some of the consider is is if we use the 10A framework for now I know the I know the county management Commissioners they want to meet with y'all start really having some conversation I think the question I would have for you all tonight is is this a framework your your work you know you're willing to at least talk about with them and then once both entities are on the same page then we can start filling in where's the driveway where's the two stor we we do have numbers right now the approximate number what we're looking at is 750 million dollars of course that you know those are those are today what's it going
038to be in five years you that's now that that that address like all the schools for to really upate H now we've only the numbers that we've carried in here and we had stopped in all of the options including option onea which was 95 million so that's still floating out there so really what you're saying is it would be onea and because we need it all we've got to have the 95 million regardless of how they decide the commission fund that that's still be part of right and and even that 98 million was divided into prior right so you're using maybe a fifth of that every year to do your most urgent item got to fix the water infiltration gotta fix you know the the the sewer problems and then if there's one puddle that's
039annoying it can wa to years the one thing we've noticed though is we looked at the plan you prepared five years ago and I guess this June July prepare to update it get it submitted think that's one's coming out uh was a lot of items that were in the five to 10 year before are here you know a lot of things that we're now seeing in the current are still are moving down in there kind of growing in that and everything else decision there 750 million again I hav't we haven't done a full a full calulation but I don't think we were carrying anything for this Transportation except for that certainly should be part of this I think we talked about it I had a had done one not long ago for Pender County Schools
040just aough assumption it was five b which was 10 10 days total one day point on the two was rooms five offices and so so about 1, that doesn't include fueling stations that doesn't include wareing million it doesn't take long to get up to a number that certainly certainly something need [Music] they have five D really I it was conceived [Music] pulling that up so basically on the table is a 1 a that's the 95 million 10A which is the Middle School U Move sixth grade middle school renovate middle school and the high school Equity p and I think even in that there's still a couple additions OFA a couple Elementary editions and then in addition to that is ensuring that is a clear plan for our parking and car rider lines at schools that
041will be increasing our student population then last thing I have then is the bus garage so that goes under 1 we call it 1 10 plan yeah if we could include the parking the bus garage and the 1A 10 then we would have it's all taken care of that we t talk about tonight yeah I think the biggest Fe that we don't have and we need to be studied but I think is that [Music] reallocation within each ofer are for elementary and part of to be all of a sudden you create you know 15% new capacity of the elementary so a lot ofs disappear but then we also have been [Music] tracking always [Music] to anyhow so there are certain ones there that you may want to evaluate some adjustments especially if it comes to
042regard of [Music] no they haven't had a chance to to grow Affinity with particular Elementary or you know they probably moved in because realt said hey you know is great or you know it's good to be ma for the high school maybe even SP in Middle School typically [Music] elementaries when I thei looking at a way where one block or comb the I think that's a very good question I think what you're having a look at each building individually in some cases I get out to Hill and there's some where we may be we may be suggesting and drop the existing gym complex or converted classrooms and drop another people building you just don't have anywhere to go so that may drive coupled with how are you getting people into the parking lot how do
043you know how do they access you there different groups are coming in for for performance because you want to be near and other things using this so I think every St will solve itself differently if you can do a single Edition and keep it consolida that's the way to go but I think your school be a little more challenging that of course the other questions out is is how do you face potentially in Performing Arts right now it's obvious you kind of overwhelm need there and more so you have another 28% students here is there a site located to be the first and maybe that's something get split in earlier just so you address an immediate need with the understandings and there are some sites here bandage we're talking what 8 10 12 16 class
044they need just classs place to put students they coming that way come through so I think the nice thing about the the high school you have to build everything for the elementary the high school be that you set a priority on on you know physical education or priority on PE or CTE Andress and small single project especially if we're not all Edition to but you need to get on that reinvestment c how you it I don't know yeah this is the fun part it actually that yeah that's my sure just as a reminder just that side note a fiveyear leas on the mobes we've given the Commissioners the price on that and it's nearly $650,000 for five years for set up takeway yeah so it's even more than what it was a year ago want
045to reup the Le Cher for we have a two-year leas there so and getting them is not the issue is paying for them so you know all we have influx we can put the mes there uh like ball Creek though or sh Ford startch yeah you for is already going till 2 o' right yeah that's right consideration St St know that's the places talking about Dro they've increased 60 students since the start of the school year and they're already over capacity and you ha to put a mobile there to take pressure off the building it's going to to stress the core capacity of that building but we got to have a place for kids to be so talking about redistricting within the elementary within the feers that's going to be a really big part I
046think moving forward said we're have to take some really good looks especially in that area right [Music] now way [Music] tries to save you money I think the redistricting would be along these next five years with the we just saw neighborhood pop out um that would be made but also could be easily T we got more room to tell we do May and then we just build so I mean there might be those things that we we we come to you guys we talk about it we do all the parts to redistrict and then you know within a year make a move that would save us $650,000 utilize space that's already there or if there's a way too if we could if we see a way that we could take a new neighborhood coming in
047Ball Street that we could get to that's what we want to do and save another four pack from going there Charles for and Kaba I think we're maxed out over there and the St Peter uh Dan's been looking at the only place that we have space is Murray crazy enough they have 30 additional kids right now this year so that space is g to beat up soon plac yeah and and the Mountain View area could be the new neighborhood come on the H CI not not school system but City Hickory M will be well of and I think that's one of the reasons if you looked at the graphic we did that we had came out here off Sher and so so forth and showed a potential gray ghost reach the point that you can't
048get high get the cars coming it may be for your head down [Music] that a so here you've already moved because theol here right and that was something that we've heard really early on was that it used to just go to one place now it's going to two places because you needed to to make balance and that was a goal that you had so that's the only that make get it's blind scooch um well slid or whatever it goes down the road and so kids looking at it are going from right and so I think that was that may also be an opportunity to kind of level out some of that huge growth that's coming into katab um because some of those things are a little farther over to the East and maybe we yeah
049which would be a r that would and that would be the only one that I could for see ever Crossing of a secondary line right but it's already Crossing secondary L like it already goes bu and in this case I assumption is that we moved it to where it was all and then if so what when do we start that what kids leave when that's why it's so hard to wrap your whole head around this whole thing there's so many moving and I think that's kind of why we were showing you didn't need that much of an addition of River Bend because if all topic KS those cies th Hill doesn't grow so much and then got the great G of a new school was that included in that 750 million for the project this
050point it isn't but it could be I I think maybe option how the Horizon you know at first I think money you know right the cost of the new school probably take away from some of the addition the old so if you those additions and threw them all at one brand new building and right now some of those schools already have mon they already sort of buying you a little time on that capacity and again it's a matter of instead of just being a static of plan it's all right in in 20 27 when we have to pull the trigger on what project we do next we look at those enrollments and see if they're really going that we're going to call these five developments and see if they're really doing what they're doing and
051if that's the case we're going to say through the additions we're just building theol um and we're going to do that instead and so let's get that ball rolling then we'll forget about those other additions and we'll move on to these other things and then if we have the opportunity we can take those modular and H them somewhere else to buy a little bit of time to get something so a little bit more of a liquid plan not necessarily on the final 10 years picture but on the phasing of what order you so the whole plan wouldn't change it might just be the slers on theine now question years ago when and [Music] the SCH looking at the [Music] num I think we we would put the ghost there saying Poss know come back this
052on the same [Music] pity was pretty cross cross the intensity of the development student creation little around see problems this is one you st already it's not try to find a way visualize dat [Music] for so you would you SS like you be looking to flush through this a little bit further and have a meeting with commission [Music] you all they're going to be dependent upon yall make request they don't have the time to dive into the school system we went to there they know that there's a lot of things to be done question is once once we're on the same page then we can start out specifics in a better [Music] timeline pieces of that the one when I talked to Mary last time they were interested in meeting with you guys early April
053rather than late April I think they're doing they're fing their budget at the end of May and I think they're trying to get a grasp on yes and that would be and then the Riders and how far away we St possibly need another we got two up there that are pretty close right you got ready up there probably eights ready at M you so you got 12ti so you can with some rri kind of make that work a while ready location um problem is the school all are in the southern part of their own individual feeder areas and so they're already close to District lives of either or bunker right City so you may have some kind of wonky areas there you know the general rulle is don't drive past the school get to another
054school we can do additions and things like that those that are problem is St St elementary school right there Road the street so what do you do with that that means your edes done design for that when we take our sixth grades out in general we're talking three to four classrooms that you're going to open up so that's that's a considerable amount I'm sorry no what I was trying to get motion that be next step everybody comforable yeah only question I have go to school that's not any one of these where would you all like just add that to possible [Music] and I can see that being a decision on a purely Financial basis cheaper then you have staing all early April early April whenever we have to get work for yall hope so we're
055looking for a motion [Music] for Chang was commission yeah as a St to be decided potential and then want to mention I guess a for us that we're trying toate Elementary School capacity about 471 43 about 87% as we move forward in 24 29 time frames we're going to be looking at 611 addition students and that's only 5 period addition years per 36 more so it's just under a th students being added to stud now now remember when the 360 show up it'll be 5 years later so a lot of those initial kids will mov up right so so it's not all it's not 900 kids and they're coming in by year same you're at94 [Music] one of concern [Music] was what happened we actually drove enough and that was another one of those things
056people like [Music] magnitude and again we can look at it as like a mathematical FBI percent right the cost of an addition with many people at the other schools in this F if that hien Point appears to go over based on the number of students planning for and based on how fast it's happening the other advantage that you have is that it'll probably take longer to prepare the site but the construction itself may be able to be a little because it's not the key thing you'll need to decide at some point not tonight but what is your maximum school if we know K5 what is the I've done 1500 student Elementary School there's four schools in one zone and I've got other folks who said 500 old ever be other folks who say 800 there's
057a lot of research all kind of they separ but that will help inform at some point your careers as you beond this call have what's the adjust that's [Music] we're over 700 there right now and it probably okay I guess I motion move forward commission with the medications that attorne ad [Music] that forward to a meeting our County [Music] Commission I've got a motion and second any further go all those in favor and are you guys okay if I work with Mado on getting some dates to give to you all yes sir we actually talked before the meeting P we thought the pastor would be the best make pretty all you want [Music] present it's probably us [Music] okay now a motion toer special call meeting for facility study review and discussion any disc all
058right thank thank you it'll be good if I play well