CNTS BOE Mtg 11.5.25

001Uh, okay. Uh, good evening everybody. I'd like to call to order um for the committee of a whole meeting of the board of education November 5th, 2025 at 6:30 p.m. in the boardroom of the administration building at 70 Conor Road, Coleneck, New Jersey. Uh, if I can please have a roll call. Mr. Morasco. Here, >> here, >> uh, great. Thank you. Uh, pursuant to the Open Public Meetings Act, chapter 231, this meeting has been duly advertised in the Asbury Park Press in a schedule of meetings dated January 16, 2025 and March 4th, 2025 notice of which has been filed with the deputy clerk for Kenneck Township and the requirements of posting of notices have been met. Uh, if everybody can please rise for the flag salute. I aliance to the flag of the United States

002of America and to the republic for it stands nationy and justice for all Okay. All right. Great. We have uh a lot to cover today, so we're just going to get right into it. Um, I'd like to uh take notice of that one information item we have listed under there, the superintendent's report on investigation of HIPS. Um, and then right after, if everybody's done with that, we're going to move right into the comments from the public. If anybody would like to get up at this time, you're welcome to do so. Please state your name and address for the record. Mr. O'Brien. Yep. Yep. Just um Dr. Garvey, I'll come assist you with the mic. That's all right, but a little tricky. >> Kevin O'Brien, 18 enclosure. I came on really three things. Uh, first, when

003you came in this meeting, everybody's happy and cheerful. So, if anybody in town's having a bad day, they should come here. Um, second, I want to congratulate you on your energy management program as shared offline. I worked for Honeywell for a number of years, so I get what you folks did. um if you need any feedback or thoughts or more than happy to to engage. Uh that's what I did. Last uh I've been involved with uh the issue of Jake's Law was created in 2018 in support of the special needs children of our community. I care about them. Um there was a brochure that that the state put out about Jake's law um that unfortunately Colts governing body is not following. You're welcome to a copy of it if if you'd like. Um the family

004style, the biggest issue is the family style bathroom is required by law and u and New Jersey DCA requirements. The new bathroom plan for five points does not include a a family bathroom. So if you've got a child who's got to be in a wheelchair and if I had to take let's say my granddaughter, I couldn't take her into the men's room. She should go into the family style. Well, they didn't build this include the family style plan in their blueprints. Why? I don't know. It's an oversight on their part and they're not responding. The brochure recommends that the users be contacted seeking the input from the users of the all-inclusive park. That would be the the special needs children and their family. That's also referenced in this document. The survey that Colts put out

005is generic in in nature. It went only to the sports um foundation members. it didn't go to the some 200 special needs children that you have under the the board of education umbrella. So, I found that a disservice from our town. And again, there's been no response. Today, I sent a letter to the Division of Community Affairs asking that Telteneck be denied their $200,000 grant request until compliance with Jake's Law is supported. I think that's a fair and reasonable request. Um, and I went right to the top of the DCA. I carbon copy didn't go pal local assembly members um whoever I could find it's on the upper echelon they got a copy of my letter in 20124 colts neck was sent a letter over another non-compliance matter uh and given time to address it

006in 2025 coltzeneck failed to support compliance over the 2024 warning letter and was deemed ill ineligible for a $440,000 Greenacres grant for five points. They dropped the ball. Colts Neck was awarded $200,000 by the county for a grant which on October 24th it elected to give back. It didn't put it to work. So in short, we were given $640,000 in grant money for five points which was not secured because of poor leadership. The other thing is a map. And it might be tough for you folks to see, so I'll pass it around. But if you look on the one side, you'll see the all-inclusive park is on the left hand side, and on the right hand side is the bathrooms. For a child in special needs, whether it be a wheelchair or some other format,

007to go from the all-inclusive park to the bathrooms, they need to traverse almost 500 ft, which to me is insane. They could put the bathroom, the all-inclusive park next to the bathroom, and it would be 50 to 100 feet away. But again, they're not listening. They've got their own objectives. So that's what I I just wanted to share with you. If you haven't I know it's not your area of expertise, but I know you folks care about kids um as do I. So that's why I wanted to just share and let everybody know I'm trying. Thank you. >> Question. >> Sports foundation. What's their response to your letter of inquiry to the state? as well as stakeholders in >> sports foundation is not relevant because they're an outside entity. This is purely just the governing

008body who's seeking the grant and from the state agencies. So I went to the state agency. The other thing that I found was appalling is our mayor commented that the bathrooms would only be open during sporting events. So if you're taking a special needs child to that park during the daytime hours at dusk when it's quiet, you don't have access to the bathrooms. um if they're getting the money, they got to make those bathrooms publicly available from from my view from dust to dawn. Um I think that's fair and that's reasonable. Yes, sir. >> So I know everyone on the sports foundation and right now there's already something in the works that we already spoke to an architect and we're already redoing those plans just so you know. >> Wonderful. That hasn't been shared and

009I didn't know >> because nobody knows about it yet. That's the problem that we have. >> But but look, whether it's going to get done or not >> again is up to is up to the township. >> I get it. >> You understand? So >> we're going to, you know, the um the sports foundation is um taking it upon itself, which I don't think it should have to do, but it is. And we're going to they're the people in sports foundation are going to see if it is possible to um create a bathroom there that everyone can use. And >> what was the cost of this building? >> It was a million dollars. It was something. >> It was a million3. >> Absolutely. >> And the new grant says it's only going to now be

010745,000. So how we get from a million to a one to a shorter number and we're and we and in speaking directly um you know with the architect, we're even we're going to get way way below that. So, I don't I don't want to waste my time. >> Um, actually, no, you're you're fine. Um, when we have limited speakers, I don't mind you going over the time at all. Um, I just want to let you know, we always appreciate you bringing stuff to our attention. Even though as president of the board, this is something, you know, I don't think I'm um privy to act on, but always know that when you bring something, we will research it. And if there's any way that we can act on it, I certainly will. I'm not sure why

011the township would do that. I'd like to hear it directly from them because sometimes there is a little miscommunication. I absolutely love to call out people that um are failures at their job, but in this case, I don't know enough about this. I'd like to give him a chance to respond. I'll reach out to Mayor Bus and find out why uh why they're um declining or or hiding from this. Um this is news to me that Mr. Oro brought up to me that the sports foundation isn't collaborating. We're trying to get something done. Um, but know that uh, you know, your comments have not fallen on deaf ears and we certainly will research. Okay. >> And they don't hear and I appreciate that. So, I did bring this up to the town committee at the

012last meeting and again, there was no response. Um, so it's kind of like you're talking to you don't get the interaction that we get from you folks. You get smiling faces. >> Listen, every everybody runs their boards differently. I certainly don't want to step on anybody's toes, but I I do like calling out the township committee uh, when they fail at certain things. And I have no I welcome their criticism of myself as well. Um, but like I said, we do appreciate you bringing to our attention if there's something that we actually can act on, this board certainly would to help special needs children. >> And my goal was not to deny them the grant was, but to withhold it until they act accordingly. So here's the jigsaw, if you want to, >> Mr. Brian,

013just a question for you with regards to the survey that went out. It makes no sense to survey a population that hasn't already received facilities or or or the target audience that should be receiving the facil. So it's going only active participants in sports. It seems to me that the survey is not self-s serving enough to go out into the population that actually does need this. Is that accurate to say? >> That's accurate to say it. I believe it's on I got it in yellow where it actually states >> when was that survey when did it commence and when Here's the survey and to me it's general use it makes no reference under the Jake law they're supposed to ask the the users what are their needs what are their requirements what do they want

014to have they didn't do any of that >> okay >> uh to to me that's a really big miss um the Parks and Rex actually said their database wasn't big enough. Um, but my from my logic, you've got so many special needs children, they could have reached out to you and said, "Hey, could you participate in this with us?" I don't know whether you could or you would. Uh, but at least they could do is ask. >> Absolutely. >> You know, it we share a common interest in the kids of our community and get it right the first time. >> Absolutely. >> Um, so that's right. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Anybody else like to get up and have a Mr. Wber? Come on up. Oh, all right. Uh, good evening. I just wanted

015to take a moment to thank the board for their hard work and dedication to our town. I'd also like to extend a huge thank you to the voters of this community for entrusting the Colts kids first to provide the children a safe and prosperous learning environment for all children. I am honored to serve on this board and I promise to put the kids of this town first in every decision we make and uphold the core values that make the Colts kids first team great. Thank you. Uh, thank you, Mr. Wickberg. I I'm proud to have uh ran in this election room with you and I'm looking forward to working alongside and I'm sure I could speak for everybody on this board. We're looking forward to welcome you in January. So, thank you uh for volunteering

016your service to the board. Uh, anybody else? Okay, seeing none, we're going to uh close uh comments from the public. We are going to move right into our action items for approval. Um, I could have a motion to move action items one through 10 at this time. >> Motion. Anybody [snorts] have any questions or comments on those items? >> All right, seeing none. Oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Walsh. >> 1 through 10. Correct. >> Uh, yeah. Take your time. Number three, employment. >> Uh, number Yes. >> Um, why are we bringing that teacher, Dr. Gar Bay, in a step 11 for a new teacher and replacing the science teacher? >> Sure. That teacher is not a new teacher. The new teacher is new to our district. So, that teacher comes with years of experience. Um, this

017teacher was, uh, if you're from earlier board agenda, served in the long-term leave replacement role and then has agreed to stay on as the teacher. uh for you know accepted the role into and coming back to the workforce um after some time as spending time already as a teacher in another district from so she's re-entering the workforce um you know in areas and I think in past agendas when we can do step one we absolutely can with regard to and where we are >> she have a master's degree or anything like that >> no >> just wondering >> no >> thank you for the explanation >> of course and we always look to, you know, find um breakage and different things like that as well. But thank you for the question. It's it's certainly a

018a a good question. >> Uh great. Uh thank you, Mr. Walsh, uh for bringing that to our attention. Um all right, we have a second on that. >> Okay, great. If we can get a roll call at this time, one through 10. Yes. >> Yes. >> Uh, okay. Great. Thank you. Um, moving right into our communications. If everybody wants to take uh note, we have five communications. I responded to the first three. The second two were brought in uh today. Um, I uh committed to 24-hour notice. I did not respond um to these two uh because I noticed we had requested these particular items be put on our agenda this evening. So, I wanted to make sure uh if this particular uh resident is watching, she could follow along to get more information as the

019board uh discusses the past survey and uh the bill of rights. Um so, just want to take note of that. We are going to move right into the board liaison reports. I'm gonna start with Mrs. Camera with the parent advisory committee. >> How does that work? [clears throat] >> Which which item >> for? Oh, for number three, I'm sorry. For for three. Yes. So, [clears throat] excuse me. there's an application and so once they're board approved as a general daily sub or depending upon their certification, they can also serve as a long-term leave replacement substitute, they get added into our system and we use Frontline. So Front Line has an app and then when jobs become available, vacancies become available, they can accept the job at will. So and um a daily sub here can

020also work in another district if they want to. We can be their foundational district where they're initially approved if they don't have a teaching certificate. Um, they have they're required to have a minimum of a an associates degree, 60 credits, and also uh obtain the county substitute certificate if they're not already a certified teacher. Yep. But they go into a pool and we're always welcoming substitutes all the time. Absolutely. >> Great. Thank you for explaining that, Dr. Gay. Um, okay, Mrs. Haritz, if you can proceed. >> Uh, we had our first parent advisory committee meeting last Monday, right? last Monday with two sessions focused on the parental bill of rights. Uh during these sessions, Dr. Garbay provided clarifications on some key points related to existing policies, legal review, uh and teacher involvement. Questions were addressed

021by Dr. Garbay, Mrs. Bulpi, and myself throughout the meeting. I do want to reiterate um because it was brought up quite a few times that this document consolidate consolidates every parental right and board policy that's already in place. there's no new provisions with this um additionally this has under undergone multiple legal reviews over the la last eight nine months um through our law firm that uh is experienced and wellversed in public sector law. So uh we have full confidence I'm speaking for the board that you know what what is shared and what what our legal team is doing on our behalf is protecting us as as a school board. Um that being said, all of the the pack sessions have been compiled and shared with the entire uh the entire board. Uh looking ahead, Dr.

022Garbay and I will be planning topics for the upcoming meetings. Um some initial suggestions included the cell phone policy, uh screen time and technology use, vandalism prevention and student responsibility, extended lunch and recess periods, um and parent teacher conferences. Um Angelique, is there anything you want to add? >> Did you mention the bathrooms? I missed it. You did? >> No, I didn't. >> Okay. I know there was some I remember I tried to document everything in my brain what I hear at the PAC. I know there was issues with bathrooms um allowing children to maybe um utilize the laboratories more than twice um with certain conditions that students have. Uh I definitely would want to revisit that at our next meeting if we could fit that in. Um but I think you covered mostly everything.

023>> Okay. >> All right. Do you want me to jump into PTO? >> Yeah, if you will. Thank you. >> Okay. Um, just some save the dates. The turkey color run is Tuesday, November 18th. The elementary school store is Monday, November 24th and Tuesday, November 25th during school hours. Um, on Tuesday, November 25th, if you go to Shake Shack in Eatentown, and you mention um donation, they will donate 25% of your meal to the PTO. Um Frosty's holiday shop is December 6th and the eighth grade breakfast is um December 23rd. That's it. >> Okay, great. Thank you for all those updates, Mrs. Harlet. Okay, we're going to um uh move on to Mrs. Camera. She is uh participating virtually. Uh she will brief us on the Col Township Schools newsletter. >> Okay. I have begun

024working on the next newsletter which will be distributed before winter break. Our board of education spotlight will feature President Bulby. The newsletter will also include our letter from President Trump, um a highlight of our Purple Star status, coverage of student athletes, and of course a showcase of the wonderful events at the schools. >> Great. Uh Mrs. Cameron, thank you uh so much for all that work you put into that. Uh we definitely appreciate it. Um, moving on, Mr. Ragnetta, would you like to uh brief us on the Cold Neck School's arts and extracurricular activities? >> Sure. Thank you. Um, right now, uh, Rec Basketball is, uh, sign up is still going on for uh, pre-K through 8th grade. Um, right now, uh, sign up is registration is $225 to the, uh, 15th of this month,

025and then after the 15th, it goes up to 245. Uh it'll be from December through March uh on Saturdays. Um the exact schedule is will come out uh in the very near future. Uh it'll be 8 am to 9:00 a.m. at Conover Elementary and they'll also get one practice per week. Furthermore, on top of that, uh for those Saturday games looking for scorekeepers, uh anybody who's in sixth grade and up is uh eligible to apply to be a scorekeeper. Uh they'll get $10 per game at the end of the season uh for each game they do. And uh they do have a mandatory uh training session for that. Uh for Colt, this Colt Sports Foundation is looking for sponsorships uh currently for uh travel basketball. Uh the sponsorships are available for uh warmup jerseys. Uh

026they can also be fe featured on u sex sports foundation's uh website uh in social media and uh if there's any company that's uh interested in being a sponsor uh they can go to basketballstackforcefoundation.com uh to inquire. Uh so that's all I have on that. Uh but I do have one more thing I just uh Vince sorry I do have to um for the action items I do have to I forgot I have to recuse on five and six but yes to the rest if you could fix that for me. Okay, no problem. Thank you. >> All right, we'll give Vince a moment to just make sure that's documented correctly. Okay. >> All right, Mrs. Cameron, are you there? >> Yes. >> Okay. I just wanted to make sure I know we lost you for

027a second. Um I'm going to uh have you uh do your Col Township uh committee report um along with Mr. Scarpa. If you could um proceed. >> Sure. The last township committee meeting was Wednesday, October 29th. Um, I listened to it via liveream. Mayor Bus, Councilman Busetta, and the township's affordable housing attorney spoke in great detail about affordability controls in the grand addressing specific questions. So, I encourage residents to listen to the live stream. November 18th is the Colts Neck Business Association's next meeting and they are voting on the executive board for 2026. The CNBA wrote three checks uh to our first responders. So, thank you. Uh, trunk retreat was successful and thank you for the CNTa for volunteering. The historic preservation committee's haunted hay ride was a great success. Um, I know my son

028and Angelique's daughter attended. So, thank you to all the volunteers. It was made up of scouts, college kids, school groups. Friends of the library book sale will be November 15th and 16th. Uh, Mayor Bus also hosted a Girl Scouts troop. So, uh, for other troops, that might be something you're interested in. Uh, DPW, uh, that's the Department of Public Works hosted a touch a truck event and they are looking for residents interested in serving on the committees. There's a website to fill out. It's a citizen leadership form. Um, the last thing that I'd like to post on our um website if possible, DAR, uh, Daughters of the American Revolution, is uh, put out a poster to help support our military. Um, it's it's for, um, there's a food pantry at the um, at Earl. And

029then there's a list of things on the flyer that they would like, such as peanut butter and jelly, pancake mix, mac and cheese. I won't read through all of it. Um, drop off is by December 8th at the Colts Neck General Store. And so, um, if we could also post that on our website to, um, you know, just encourage residents and our students to drop off food. Um, and there's other items too, like toothbrushes. Um, I would love to see that. And my last thing is the next meeting is November 12th, and it's also their only meeting in November. >> Great. Thank you, Mrs. Camera. Um, Mr. Scarper, did you want to add anything? >> Just to add that was very very complete. Thank you, Phyllis. And then we will be in touch with the

030township to go over an update on these facilities that were discussed by Mr. O'Brien earlier. >> Okay, great. Great. Thank you. Okay, moving on to the Cold Township Planning Board Subcommittee, Mr. Scales and Mr. Walsh. >> No uh official meeting, but did have some emails back and forth with the uh township committee, which uh during my ad hoc affordable housing committee report, I will give you some more statistics that were just handed to me last week. >> Okay. All right. Um no, that's fine. There's really not much. That's fine. I just want to make sure I don't leave anybody out. Um okay, moving on to the Coz Township senior citizens. Mr. Walsh. membership dues are for November. Dues for 2026 are due this month, myself. $10 check. Um some dates they have have their December

0313rd meeting again at Cole in December 11th there's Elf the musical surflight theater I think that's in beach island never been there should make it a point to go December 18th is our annual uh Christmas party at the Molly picture in headed into the holiday season we have the Colnake tree lighting on Saturday December 6th at town hall at 4 pm and December 7th the Historic Preservation Committee will be holding their annual country Christmas at the Montro School. That's it. >> Great. Uh, thank you for that update. Moving on to Naval Weapons Station Earl. Um, I know Mrs. Ramirez is not here tonight. U Mr. Scarpa, do you have anything to >> Yes. So, I I mean, what a tremendous achievement. They they should be recognized for an outstanding award, the purple purple star school

032award. We will be officially recognized on November 13th received invitation from Captain Smith to participate in that and that's absolutely fantastic. So thank you Mrs. Jones for representing Naval Weapons Station Earl at these board meetings as you continuously do. We are super encouraged to continue this program but happy to participate in November 13th. In addition, this board uh and the administration collected over 840 some pounds of food this past week uh during these times when with government shut down and personally delivered. Thank you Dr. Gar team for making that delivery but uh came at the right time and it's just small little things that matter the most and we hope that it was appreciated across the board. So thank you partnership looking forward. >> Great. I know Dr. Gar wants to add to that. Thank

033you, Mr. Scarp, President Vulpy. I uh too just want to add in this time. I just want to personally thank you know Mrs. uh West Jones for all her cooperation. Dr. Reynolds, Mr. Mercer, Mr. Milano, the principles who worked tirelessly on each application, three applications that documented all of the services, supports, information that's available, training sta of staff. It's extensive and when you put it down on paper, um it's impressive. It really is. And I want to thank you for guiding that process for us and for putting in the time as you always do um for your for as an advocate for for the students and families at Naval Weapons Station Earl. So, thank you so much for that. I truly appreciate it. Um and so I will save um my my longer speech for

034my superintendent's report on the 19th. So, thank you. >> Great. Thank you very much. Okay, moving right into my state and county school boards association. I don't have too much. Um, the New Jersey school board's annual membership survey is now available. Uh, the New Jersey School Board um association is looking to gain insights on their services, training, uh, key district needs, and enhance their advocacy needs. Uh, the link to the survey came out. It should be in everybody's email. Uh, if you want to participate, you're welcome to do so. Uh, Tuesday, December 2nd, 6 p.m. at Howell Middle School North. We have the Mammoth County School Boards. Uh they're holding their meeting. They are going to be covering um the three Rs, roles, responsibilities, and resource resources. Sorry. Uh the topic um is school budget

035overview and strategies to avoid uh the fiscal cliff. Registration is now open for that. Uh I just brought some of these um school board magazines. I have some extra ones. I don't know if you guys all receive these. You should, but if you would like, I have some extras I brought with me tonight. Um That concludes my report um for the school boards. We are going to start the committee of a whole work session. I respectfully request that uh everybody presenting tonight please, you know, out of respectful people's time, you know, um make everything short, brief, to the point, factual uh and Yeah. Yep. And yes, we do have a presentation. So, we're going to do that first. >> Yeah. Let's do the presentation this way. the folks that are here uh presenting to us,

036they don't have to stay for the entire meeting. I want to um yeah, who would who would like to >> I'd just like to start off and thank you Nick Common traffic safety officer Cole Township Nicole transportation coordinator. Thank you. This is reference to stop arm cameras which are the schools are are equipped with operating and have already caught violations and tickets have been summoned. So these money we spent on these cameras, >> it's priceless. >> No, it catches one violation or prevents one tragedy. >> The money is well worth it. Uh I did request the police department come since they our law enforcement to really explain how what happens out there in real time. >> Yeah, it's great. It's actually great to have him here so we can get a, you know, great overview

037on exactly how this works and what's being the finished product. So, thank you for both being here. >> Of course. Thank you for having me. >> For those who don't that don't know me, my name is Nicole Rosco. I'm the transportation coordinator. I've been in transportation for 24 years. And for 24 years, this has been a really, really big problem. It's it's it's a safety issue. It's something that can lead to very catastrophic consequences. So, I'm going to start real quick with the statistics. Okay. The data from the National Oh, wait. Data from the National Association of the State Directors of People Transportation Services for the 2425 school year highlights the significant prevalence of safety violation violations in a single day. A one-day survey is approximately 31% of the nation's school bus drivers recorded 67,258

038illegal passings. Projected annual violations when ex expirated for all US school bus drivers in 180day school year is estimated number of legal passings to reach over 39 million violations per year. Despite the number of figures represents a 10% decrease in illegal passings nationwide compared to previous years is a positive step forward. Right side passings. An alarming piece of data shows that right side passing have climbed to nearly one in five violations [snorts] which is especially dangerous in children often enter and exit the school bus on the right side of the road. I mean, even if we do drop off on the right side of the road, you always have somebody who just doesn't care. Our consequences and safety measure, legal penalties. Passing a stop school bus with red lights flashing is legal in all 50

039states. Although in New Jersey is one of the only states in the United States that you cannot get any kind of consequence just from a video or a picture. I guess they feel it's enttrapment. So the there's a long procedure that you have to go through to get something done with this. [clears throat] Okay. Stop arm cameras. Many states and municipalities now use stop arm cameras on buses to capture violations and issue penalties to vehicle owners, aiding in enforcement efforts. Safety risk. Each violation puts children's lives in immediate risk, underscoring why drivers must remain stopped until red lights cause flashing, the stop form is retracted, and the bus resumes in motion. So, literally, a car is not supposed to move until the stop sign is back, and the lights are off. But again, you don't

040have people that do that. So the procedure that we have to follow with this system is um first of all the the cameras are on the back of the buses. We have DVRs that are in the buses that are connected to our regular internal cameras. So we have um the cameras on the side of the bus which can get a view of the front of a car. Sadly not all cars have a front plate. So you know sometimes it's challenging. So what happens is that when a car is running the driver's red lights, there is a green button inside the bus that the driver can press that snaps a photograph of the violator. And I mean some of the I I'll show you some pictures in a minute, but some of the pictures there, some

041of them are not. So the procedure is um many districts running are running pilots right now. I know Woodbridge is I know that Shore Regional is where they're trying to gather as much data possible to try to get a law passed so we can automatically take a people for running red lights from a video or a photograph. Clear image of a violation includes make a model of a vehicle, clear reading. Oh, there's there's a picture. I'll just read. Clear image of violation includes make model of vehicle, a clear reading of the license plate, and a description of the driver. Once all the information is gathered, it is emailed to Cold Snap PD officer to along with the image. Police then will issue a summit to registered owner of the vehicle that requires mandatory court appearance.

042If at any time someone besides the registered owner is driving the vehicle, the owner will be questioned about the driver who has committed the violation. The bus driver will also have to fill out a witness statement that is sent to our office from the Colts PDA. In most cases, a bus driver is required to appear in court. The standard penalty of this traffic violation is a minimum of a $250 fine. Fine can actually go up to $1,000 and it is a fivepoint license violation. Violators try to plead this violation down which usually results in a higher fine but a lesser charge which doesn't really help anybody because there's no there's no uh punishment for what they're doing. >> Yes. But if they speak to a little bit. So as Sergeant Walsh said before, um I'm

043with the traffic safety unit. I'm on the M County fatal accident unit. So I respond to fatal crashes throughout the county. I take traffic safety very seriously. It's what my whole job kind of morphed into. So when transportation reached out that you know this was a tool that's now available to our office, um it really excited me and I reached out to our prosecutor. So, we're going through that process now um of issuing summones to these to these owners of these vehicles. Five summones issued so far. Of course, not every picture is going to be perfect capture a license plate due to XYZ reasons. Um but if I can get the license plate off of it, I use other investigative tools such as license plate recognition systems um where I can put in like a

044gray Tesla at this time of day and I can see if that vehicle matches a license plate read. a police car or stationary site within the county and then I can get the license plate that way. So if I see, you know, there's a guy with a big goofy hat driving the car and then he drives by a license plate reader at Homeell and I can see the license plate on that one, I have enough probable cause issue at that point. So um these these tools are are awesome. Um our municipal prosecutor who I've had a conversation with about multiple times is deeply on board with prosecuting these violators. Um, so it makes our job as a law enforcement officer a lot easier when the court and the prosecutor is looking to move forward with

045vi um getting these violators uh brought to justice. Here's another picture of actual an actual >> Nicole I want to speak to this one if that's okay if that's so what you have here is an image that was Nicole and Audrey Speder our assistant they wanted to share a deeply disturbing this is an image that was taken when we had our cameras that red dot that's in the center is a child that was walking out of a driveway uh someone ran the reds what they referred to and if that child was on their phone, you can see that the child is stepping out in front of the car, right? So, she may not have been visible from the car that was going by, but had she not been paying attention despite the driver's best efforts

046because usually prior to the to the cameras, there was a lot of horn blowing to let people know that that that children were walking. But th that was captured when we had our cameras and it is my understanding you can this was one of the violations that was actually issued um because the summons that we caught but I wanted to show you that this is a reality and this is what is happening. So >> stop the child wasn't in front of the car. It's on the side there. So Right. >> That car definitely received a warning. >> Yes, it received a summon. >> That's probably This is on their dash cam. So, it's actually going to work against them. But thank you for bringing this up to our attention. I saw that some cases if

047you if the person's not recognized, they can't issue a violation. What about in instances? Is that true that you have to recognize the individual? >> The guidance that I was given from our municipal prosecutor is to issue it to the registered owner of the vehicle and then has to appear in court and they have to make their case why they weren't the driver. >> Okay. And if they weren't the driver, is there still is it like could be treated a red light violation like we get in New York City all the time where New Jersey operates in a different area of motor vehicle code then there's no like civil it's called civil traffic violations in New York State. I believe that's what they call it. There's no such thing as a civil traffic violation in

048New Jersey. It's all violation of title 39. That's the motor vehicle code in New Jersey. So it's all there's no civil just monetary. There is some stuff of course that is just a monetary fine but there's no civil type fine. >> I got you. So this has this has to be the car and the drive tied to violation in it current state of law. >> But our like I said our our prosecutor is on board with the whole idea of this and wants to make people aware that this is out there and hold them accountable. So that's why he is basically putting the onus on the owner of the vehicle to say prove to me that of course if I see on the video that their car is registered to a 50-y old male and

049there's 18 year old girl driving the vehicle I'm not going to issue I could further my investigation and call you know the register who was driving your car that type of deal and do that but it's it's if there's no driver seen I was given the guidance from our prosecutor to issue the summit to the register owner I'm not familiar with the operation. >> We can we can get a video like we can as we pull like video footage like of our students, we can actually pull video footage of this because it's it's hooked up to the same DVR port. But for the us to send it, we um prefer to snap a picture because it's easier to communicate that with the police department instead of sending them a lengthy video of it. >> So

050let's just say the bus driver. >> Yes. >> So then for discovery purposes for the court, um they receive a still shot and then they receive a video. So they can play that video in court if the person you know, to go to trial, >> they can play the video for you. I guess >> it's a combination of both. There's no I I think it's it's either a blatant disregard for motor vehicle law and the safety of children or it's just not paying attention on the roadway, which is a huge problem as well. You know, that's why I have a job at this point. So, it's unfortunate, but uh with stuff like this, it it really helps. My hope is that once people hear that this technology is out there and people are receiving summones

051for this, they'll put a little bit more thought into driving and care into students so this won't happen. [clears throat] >> Yeah. So, we were waiting for after the presentation tonight to the board and then I'll be sending next week a formal letter to parents making everybody aware, you know, that this has been added as per the they can come back and listen to the actual uh, you know, recording. I'll point them back to the video if they want to hear specific information and details about it. And then, you know, that we we usually send that letter at the beginning of the year. We send combined between us and the Colts Police Department about a warning about running the Reds. We update it every year. we we share with them the violation, but now we're

052taking step further and I'll reference in my letter, joint letter with um uh uh Chief uh Devito that we're able to go through and you know now follow through with what we're saying here that it's take it seriously. >> I have one question before you um scoot out. I heard you say their fines are between 250 to a,000. So um how do you um decide who gets what fine like from with that big a range? So so the judge will set the fines in that case. So it's just it can't be less than 250 or more than a thousand. >> So it's completely up to it's up to >> Okay. And um my last question is how many other districts in Mammoth County do you know of that are using this system? >> I know

053of I I know of two districts that are doing a pilot And what that is is that there's certain companies that will come out free of charge and they'll put like six of these on your buses. And what that's for, it's only used to gather data because they're trying so hard to get this law passed in New Jersey that they can just find and take a people just from sending pictures and not having to go to court. Like >> as as if I know right now, yes. Yes. I mean, my one of my good friends, he's a transportation coordinator in Malboro. they don't have them, you know, and um you know, and I I suggested, you know, that he look into these as well because Marorrow is just as >> Oh, you're welcome. I mean,

054in two the last part of it in 2023, 108 people were killed and 13,200 were injured in this form of careless driving. Having a valuable tool here in Cold Snack is an additional measure towards keeping our children safe. It is crucial that we continue to advocate for stricter laws in New Jersey related to this type of violation. And lastly, I will say I'm in transportation for 20 24 years. There's plenty of times that I have to drive here because we're very short staff. My biggest obstacle that I'm finding here is deer dodging, but I definitely I I watch constantly constantly for As soon as I stop and that stop sign goes out, the first thing I do to look to see what who's driving over there or who's behind me or who's walking here. >>

055Thank you for spearheading. We're going to look to put this on our website as well. >> I would love to see just to add to that, I don't know if you mind if you could put I don't know if it's okay like I don't like a picture like that on there so that way the motorists can see this is what I can see. So they they know like I'm gonna be caught red-handed on this HD image. Absolutely. >> You know, so I think that would really resonate before we get to that. >> That's fine. >> Is it is it um against the law to actually post that person's license plate and put it on our website to make sure >> that is a matter of public record? >> What's that? >> There's no expectation of

056privacy of your license plate. >> Okay. So we can actually >> but I would omit it >> to be nice personally. >> To be nice. Well, if you're if you're if you're endangering >> Yeah. I don't [laughter] >> Yeah. I mean, I I I definitely understand your your respect, but for somebody making a a violation in this situation, they don't deserve respect of hiding their their license plate. I'm sorry. They just don't. >> We could get guidelines from the prosecutor's office could tell us what we can and cannot do, I assume. Right. >> Yes. >> So, Yeah, we could ask. We could ask >> because we have to have this out there. >> All right. And lastly, um like I said, Mr. Walsh, I believe this was your initiative. Um I just Yeah, I'm sorry.

057>> Okay, Mr. Walsh and Mr. Scarpa, I want to commend the both of you to be a cutting edge on this system, bringing it to our our attention, getting it passed, the administration for working so hard along uh with you folks to get this done. This is amazing. I'm so happy. Um, I hope the community appreciates um, you know, that we we put this in place here. So, thank you all for all all of your work getting it done. We really appreciate [applause] it. >> And I'm gonna I'm gonna call you Sergeant Walsh from now on. Bye, Mr. O'Brien. Thank you for coming tonight. Yep. Thank you. >> Thank you. Okay. All right. So, now uh we are going to move right into uh the committee of a whole work session. Uh like I said,

058we're going to try to uh spearhead everything and uh be as brief as possible when presenting. We're going to go right into the ad hoc affordable housing uh committee report. I'm not sure you said you had something. >> Yeah, I've got stats. I'll give it to you real quick. I mean, it's a good segue. Um 537 will now be a fivelaned highway. Um and we're now going to be sending multiple buses over there because of the statistics that I'm about to read to you. So on the 19th um the township committee had sent me um we had asked and um Dr. Gbe had asked sort of what the layout of uh Lavana is going to be. The town is worried about round four and all this. You I you know I encourage people to go

059listen to the last committee meeting about the grant and the extended affordable controls and all that but we as a school board are still in round three because Lavana is going up. So here are the statistics. There's going to be uh 15 units. As you're all aware, out of these 15 units, there will be one threebedroom, 11 twobedroom, and 12 one-bedroom units per building. Okay. Have to be one threebedroom, 11 twobedroom, and 12 one-bedroom units per building. There will be 15 buildings that will be put up and the um will be January and they expect the 15th to be open between we'll say about March or April of 2026. So the issue here is that I don't I'm not going to say the plans have changed. I wasn't there originally, but I am glad we

060took proactive measures because now if you think about There will be 180 onebedroom units, 165 two-bedroom units, 15 threebedroom units, 14 of the 181bedroom units will be affordable. 43 affordable units out of the 165 for the two-bedroom, all 15 units that the three-bedroom units will be affordable. Now, again, this is Colt Snack, New Jersey. You're not going to have threebedroom unit as a single person without any children, you're not gonna have a two-bedroom unit. This is a this is way more units than they told us. So when the original feasibility study that they gave us said only 50 children, I'm reading you statistics now, there are me more children than I originally had estimated. So if you think about this, this is a lot of children that are going to be coming into the district.

061Now whether or not when the timing is of that, sure. But proactive measures of who's registering um for the school and things like that, we we need to stay on top of it because it's a lot of kids. That's going to affect the infrastructure of our town. Number one, it's going to affect the school buses that we have to send over there if we have to purchase more school buses. And more importantly, it's going to affect all the the police and the fire that are in there. So everything that we've been doing as an ad hoc committee has been great because now we have a number that is concrete which we've been asking for for months. That number is very close to what we had originally estimated the number of children that we did the

062feasibility study for. But more importantly now there is a number of the tax revenue that I expect our school district to get and that's out there now and it matches these numbers that they gave us. So again, I encourage everyone go to our website. They will see all of the affordability controls. They'll see all of what we think the amount of children that will be there and more importantly the amount of tax revenue that is going to be owed to us um as a school district. And then the tax assessor will now have that in their back pocket to use as a reference. And we'll know if we're owed money or if things are being short. We go from there. >> Can you put your mic on? figure out the total estimated cost for the

063taxpayer for the student population at the >> Do you have a rough idea? >> I'll pull it up and I'll give you to to the end, but it's it should be around $2 million. >> We're owed about $2 million and more importantly um hundreds of children not >> one point of time here. Let's say one building opens up in January. Okay. So, Could students in theory attend our schools January next semester? So, so how does that work? How does that work in terms of logistics for busing and stuff like that? >> Sure. >> Is that on the fly? We haven't had a >> we would need to I mean if we needed to adjust we would adjust and that would happen. We do it all the time. not necessar on our current routes we try

064to do. But if we have someone that's not currently routed, we follow within the parameters and you know it um you know either adds more volume or to the number of students on a bus or we'll add a little bit more time if we have to reroute and then we'll we may um in the past like looking far ahead if there's more than one we may you know condense and reroute and reassign kids to different bus stop. you know, it's some, you know, it's it's sometimes fluid based upon what the need is through the year. And as students have come and gone, we've been able to we adapt that on a regular basis. Something of a significant growth that hasn't been something we've had to address since we um since 2018 with Earl, >> Correct.

065>> All right. So, we have to be a lot of work. >> It's a lot of work. And I think again sort of the reconfiguration of the schools that we're prepared, right? We have we've done the groundwork. very proactive and now we have legitimate numbers. Now I think more of your your realm they're saying it'll be about every four to six weeks post April 2026 that a building opens up and children come in and families come in. So you know that they're already going to start to take calls. I just I mean that could change I would assume as they're doing inspections and things like that. So we'll have to stay on top of the management company to tell us all right is this building going to be going online? People are moving in. So

066that's sort of the last f of phase of all of this is now we need to follow when things are going to be open. >> I I looked on their website. They haven't started taking applications yet and a woman down at the Colesnake Township confirmed that to me. So I find it a little worrisome that if they are going to be completed with some of these buildings by January or February that they haven't even opened up enrollment yet for the leases. So, I don't know. To me, that's just a big red flag. like and I've seen a lot of these large rental complexes come up and I've had clients call me on them and I've gone on their websites and by the time I you know they say oh well construction is going to be

067completed four months, five months, six months from now. I mean, they have these lease applications and these sales agents taking applications months before um months before these buildings are even built. And here we are, if we are two months, three months away from the completion of maybe the first one or two buildings, why haven't they opened up enrollment yet for sales for for for rentals? Like why is is there a delay? Is there something that we don't know? Are they five months away? Are they six months away? Or, you know, are they going to start getting are they gonna start, you know, getting CO CFOs with Colnake Township and people are just going to be moving in and we're not going to get a heads up. And that's my fear. That's my fear because and

068nobody can tell us anything. The township doesn't know anything. I I mean, I could call the third party that's handling the affordable housing for the, you know, for the township and say, "Hey, what's going on here? How many applications do you have?" Um, you know, if they have 72 applications for the 360 units and they're all sold out already, then, you know, maybe I can get some information from them in that regard. But it's been very quiet and it's just worrisome. Usually they have these places set up, they have the sale set up months and months before um these buildings even break ground. >> Do do you want to try to reach out? Would would you mind to try and reach out to that third party? I mean, I don't know if we're going to

069get really anything substantial from it, but >> I could easily do that. Maybe this week if you had have a moment, you know, >> I could easily call I could easily get their information and I can and I can see what kind of I can get at a third party. I mean, they're this third party is being paid with Colts taxpayer money to take these applications. >> so we should be able to get >> we should be able to get some type of information. But that's but the fact that it's so quiet and I believe that the I believe that they're starting to work on the interiors on these buildings, >> it's like what >> is going on? How come there isn't open enrollment for the rentals? Why? Like, why is there no why is

070there no Salesforce? >> Why aren't they taking applications? >> What's the red flag? >> The red flag is they already have them all sold and they don't want to tell us. >> I was going to ask you, hypothetically speaking, because I'll get skewered for this, but do you think what's the probability of there is already a group of people that they know are going to be moving? >> Very high probability. >> Okay, so that's the answer. >> That's the answer. >> Wanted to make sure because let's just say Again, hypothetically speaking, um if there's a group of people that move into those buildings and they are not the children are not attending our schools, it's very mindful for the public to understand. >> That would be a very nice heads up. >> Well, but there's

071still also a major major impact to the district. >> Absolutely. >> Even if the child doesn't attend. So, if you don't mind, >> correct? We're bound by many laws with regards to non-public uh transportation. Uh we have uh aid and loo that people get when we can't provide when we can't provide transportation. It is actually something that we met with legislators a few years ago um asking them to uh relook at the laws related to to to that and almost go to a tax credit as opposed to imposing non-public entities and understanding you know it's not about choice of parents going to private schools or chart or anything like that. It's about that we are required to budget as you all know we've been through the budget process there is an aid in loo there

072thing that parents get when we as the school district cannot provide transportation for a child that attends uh a private school it is the onus is on us to pay for that transportation. So that is something that we do need to be mindful of um with regard to what you know whatever population is is uh is in the district. So again correct even if enrollment doesn't increase >> our budget will increase because of the transportation credits that we have to provide. So regardless of what happens we're getting >> right >> Mrs. Harit so with transportation for kids that don't go to our school like is there radius or like it's just someone we have to pay for that. So, with regard to private schools and with regard to um off the top of my head,

073the mileage, I don't remember what them is. I don't think there's a stat. I don't think that there's actually I I know charter schools, it's a grandfather clause. So, if someone lives attends a charter school, say in Jersey City, and they're accepted and they attend that school, um if they move to Colts Neck, Colts neck is then responsible for paying the tuition to that school. So, that is in the law. It's another point of advocacy that we brought up, we've brought up previously to legislators about revisiting that law. Um, as well as the whole process for charter schools becoming established because they while they are public schools, um, they have very they have some different laws and rules that they play by. So, that's something that we have to kind >> aren't going to get

074any better. They're not going to get any better. And in fact, they're going to get worse. We're rearranging. So, and and honestly, nothing's going to come in our favor with any of the school districts and you know, monitor Ocean County especially. >> It's unfortunate. It's a fact. What are you going to do? You know, it's just the way it is. >> All right. Fair to say, >> that's okay. That's okay. We're going to make up the time. That's okay. It's important to address. >> Um, okay. We're going to move right to Mr. Walsh for the buildings and ground safety and security. Um, >> can you please put your mic? I'm sorry. I just want the public to hear you. >> Absolutely. I requested Nick um to forward some recommended fee schedule for usage of our

075facilities and Vince is the point person, business administrator for people requesting to use our facilities. So, Nick forwarded uh each board member suggested rates for rentals, whether it be a cafeteria, gym custodial fees, ancillary costs for using microphones, HVAC fees. Uh the comparison was made for from a few school districts that surround our closen township really looked at Marorrow Township in particular. I like the fee schedule. Our fee schedule has hasn't been updated in years to reflect our new upgrades and costs that we invest in our school district. So I just put it up for discussion if you can take a look at it and you know add your thoughts are you do you feel comfortable with these fees you think >> I the next step with the fees is just looking at the classes

076is that something we want to still do with regard to yeah who gets char who gets charged and that type of thing because there are some districts that it doesn't matter there's not a priority uh in terms of of >> absolutely no charge Yeah. >> Yeah. We could probably reduce it. >> Kevin the rates here we have it stating per day. We might want to button that up in terms of time. I know I mean can be perceived as 24 hours. So so use 24 hours. I don't think that's going to happen. We have to codify the time associated and if it goes outside of the time then we need to charge because we will be encouraing >> uh well so the custodian charges are separate right and that's listed below >> and then and

077then >> what's that >> oh yeah >> yeah and then the top ones you know so that's more capstone we need to button this up just and make sure that we don't have a violation of time periods because you don't want a sixhour become a 12 hour and then obviously and I think that the other thing that we want to look at too is that um just because there's districts in in the language and looking at the different policies we can put forward we can work together with Nick and Vins to say like here's some language to look at because some have a minimum 4hour charge because you do have to have your custodian before and after. So if we wanted to go to per hour, right, you might be a minimum of a four

078hours. This you have it for four hours because you're going to need time for setup and and whatever. >> Um Kevin, you need to get a different mic because your mic keeps going off and >> Yeah. So here, let's Oh, thank you, Mr. >> All right. Well, he's got an extra mic. Let's try this one because No, no one can hear what you're saying. >> There's also some charges here that need to be clarified. So, air conditioning charges. So, we heard from Nick saying that it's AC needs to be turned on an hour before the facility. So, if they're renting for three hours and it's hot in the summer, they'll get 180. That's not true. 240. So, we just button that up. It says per hour of use and then in addition the one hour

079set up. So I just don't want folks signing on to this and then getting hit with an extra charge because they didn't see. >> Yeah. In terms of draft, this isn't this is by far from the far from the product. What we would probably put together is that we were when we were talking about it would be a draft of uh almost like a check off list like this is what you're asking for. And so it's like column A is the room, column B is the hours, column B is you know like you're almost going through the staff how many that it's an automatic fee. So this is just the list of what it would this isn't the final presentation by any means. This is just for the board's consideration regarding the increases in in

080in the fees in comparison to what the current fee schedule is which we've shared. So I think that so this is not the final presentation product in any shape or form. This is just the draft of what for the board's consideration of the increase in the fees and then also understanding that so from the fee structure we had talked about A and B are for kids. That's the one thing that we talked about in the PTO and and whatnot. C does get into the adult leagues of the sports foundation which are here all the time on Sunday. So we really we we have to say that okay are we anything for the kids in looking at those class structures again we'll work behind the scenes and do in between >> correct and that's the stance

081that some people say that it's like you know with the fees it doesn't uh it's still not free so I think that we we just as a board want to be sure of what we're charging who we're charging we're clear it's if it's for kids we're not charging and but are we are we truly not charging so if recreation needs to have something on a Saturday which is incurring costs for us, right? Are we are we not charging? >> We can't. Listen, I always want to, you know, like you said, never charge, but we we cannot show ourselves just to I mean, everybody knows there's cost to stuff, right? Even though we have students that utilize a thing if air condition is free, right? >> Okay. We got to have some type of charge, you

082know? I mean, that's how businesses go out of business free. And then I assume we're running into a docu sign format or lease agreement. So if we have a temporary or longstanding lease between a third party >> Yeah. I wouldn't lease. That's we're not allowed to. >> Sure. It's it's a facilities use agreement is what we have currently now. Correct. Online. It's a form that they have to provide. They have to provide their insurance. They have to provide their everything else. Uh that liability insurance, all the things that we already have in process are what's required for the use of our facilities in any level. So it's not a long it would be they would anyone who would like a recurring use like uh so for example sports foundation as soon as the books open

083July 1 they reserve every weekend that that they can available and it's through the cat the classes that we will say you can't use it this weekend because of this schools closed this weekend because of that. So we there's a reserve and then we work almost backwards with them to do that. Um so but every we we we don't necessarily have a a type of longstanding it's just recurring request for dates and we do want to maintain and my recommendation would be we do want to retain that control because if there's ever a situation we do want the ability to say you can't you can have it these dates you can't have it this date we need another date. So, we've we've done that many times, especially for inclement weather. You know, if everyone's home,

084there's bad days. There's a million reasons or there's a play going on. You can't have the middle school basketball. You can't, you know, those types of things. We want to maintain that. >> Yeah. >> Okay. One last thing for me. The security deposit. I don't see it here. How would you How would you factor that into >> We don't do security. We have We have not done that in the past as security deposit. It's an after billing after use. There's no pre-charge for it. >> That might be something we should look into. Damages do occur at the point of usage and you have >> that's the liability insurance they have to provide >> for damages >> then we incur liability cost that any liability insurance >> sure we can certainly And we'll we'll look into

085that from from you know from our facilities. >> Yeah. >> So administratively administrative on a board level >> we need to refine a language tweak some of that usage. >> Sure. Put it together in like a check off what do you have >> timeline we looking at with uh working together with Nick. I need a lot of phone calls. We want to use this. I'm trying to maximize long story short revenue opportunity for I don't want to wait and see him go somewhere else. >> Sure. So I think that the December is for for being able to say we're going to approve new rates and have it in a presentation. I think it's we can have rates, we can have the languages and go for first read, second rates for the policies. That's not that's

086something we can move along quickly with. The other piece that which we talked about is the staffing. We have to talk about the staffing because with regard to our use of facilities specifically if it's on the weekend that's either overtime that right now currently it's overtime for staff and we have to be able to staff something that we are sometimes limited with because it is voluntary because we don't have a shift on the weekend. >> You're talking about part-time hires for weekends for custodian. >> Exactly. It's exactly what it is. So someone so if we have a venue we have to have a custodian and there are times throughout the years in the times where we've had to deny use. We don't have somebody who can fulfill that when and that's true someone we are

087legally obligated to have someone with a boilers license a boiler license operating in the building when someone is occupying the building. So that goes for anyone and that fee is is passed on to people when they're using our facilities according to our class structure. So, so the board and in general with the fee structure, the policy we can move quickly on. The other consideration is if we are going to expand upon this, do we want to either, you know, set up a schedule where there's a rotation and we put it out there and and continue with our our staff or do we want to explore a weekend part-time health person to be able to to cover this because I think that that >> we should have a part-time on sta on standby regardless. >> Sure.

088So, I think that that so we don't currently have that. So, and but the fees that we're generating, the revenue that we're bringing in could potentially offset that person. But I I don't I want to be mindful of burning out our staff and overutilizing something because if it's if staff doesn't pick up on an emergency situation, we have a situation or we had something scheduled and we can't cancel it. Then that automatically defaults to Mr. Moretta who's on 247 call who has to come to to cover the building. >> What's the um >> is it easy to find somebody with those >> sir? you know, certificates is it >> so paying them $80 an hour. I >> you know, it's a pretty good rate on a weekend. >> Yeah. I mean, remember remember that that's

089the rate of charge. This is the revenue part of for the district, right? We're still paying the rate of the pay, the hourly rate of overtime. So, it's time and half for wherever they fall on our on our current contract. If we're going to be increasing the hourly rates for custodians, that's something that would have to be negotiated. So, if you have someone that's that's another factor to this as well. So, I'm just saying we have to be prepared to do it on the staffing side of it. Um, right. And if we have smaller scale, that's a one custodian. Larger scale venues with a lot of people that might may require two. >> Absolutely. >> So, that's why I'm saying from a staffing perspective, it did it take us quite some time to acquire and

090secure custodians for the school year? Absolutely. Do we still have people on that we, you know, for our substitute services that we call on? Absolutely. Because we cover what we can internal. our current staff picks up overtime, but we also don't want to be continuously burning out and cancelling on people who are paying good money >> to be here. That doesn't look good for us. So, we want to be able to make sure we have a nice package that we can deliver on a regular basis so that when people are making a substantial investment in using our facilities, we can follow through on that return on that investment for them. So, there's it's it's it's about the fees and it's about the facilities, but we also want to make sure we have the staff to

091do so. >> Would this be um poorly thought out. If we get the schedule done, we approve the schedule, talk to the um the residents that are asking for use, start them off with the staff that we have and Mr. Moretta overseeing it. I certainly don't want overtime and I don't want Mr. Moretta having to stay here at all on call, but I'm just worried about we do all this and then the people that are asking for this weekly rate all of a sudden do not want to pay or they quit in like a month and then we went through all of this. But while we're transitioning using the staff we have and then start looking for the part- timerrs. So kind of use what we have, see how it goes at first couple weeks

092and then does everybody follow me? And then like get part-time permanent help. Like I said, I'm just worried about going through all this and then the one per the one group that's requesting this doesn't continue and then we went through all of this. Um, >> I'm getting calls every day. >> I know. I know they're really serious to our res and I would recommend I mean and and I would recommend have them call the admin. Have them call me. >> I certainly will. >> Have them call me and then we can kind I can talk them through the process and then and talk about what we need to go through and make sure that with regard to whatever changes who and that's for any entity requesting our services because we certainly have had people who

093we've had to turn away because of availability. So now that this board is rethinking and kind of opening up opportunities again, we want to make sure that we have a product that we can deliver on with fidelity to the people who want to make an investment in doing so. >> I'm glad we're upgrading our fees regardless. >> Yeah, we we you know, we all want this to work. We want to get this right. But I agree with we want to put out a product and do it well. >> If you spend a little extra time developing the infrastructure, make sure your controls are in place. Have a sound lease agreement collective security. Have nice and square ready to go. The business will come, you know, you have to set the groundwork. Don't just jump into

094something. We'll make sure we keep it forward proper infrastructure. We can do that. >> Okay. I agree. >> All right. Uh is there anything else um that we're covering, Mr. Walsh? >> No, that's it. >> That pretty much includes your buildings. Okay. All righty. We're going to move into uh communications. Just I'm sorry that just calling out number four that we're going to be expanding the security cameras as it was in the conversation that we had uh that we'll be seeing. Yep. Go ahead. Absolutely. Oh my god. Again. What is going on over there? batteries on the table right now. >> I apologize to the public for uh not hearing me too well. >> That's okay. >> Uh it's been recommended by our police department, our school safety monitors and department of education install uh

095eight additional cameras to enhance the security of our students and teacher population. I'm recommended as from the U building and grants that we immediately install those cameras. Is it all three schools? >> I believe it's all three schools. Three >> particularly Cedar Drive are >> right. Vince probably can speak give you a better explanation or doctor. >> Yeah, we usually don't like it's was recommendations for uh exterior and some interior. So we usually don't discuss specifics of that but you know in public and stuff like that. So um but identified areas that throughout the audit that we better angles of things. I think we the board supports um the use of those funds to go to that uh project. I I can't see anybody um voting that down, Mr. Walsh. Um anybody have comments on

096that? Anybody? No. All right. Thank you, Mr. Rnetta, for fixing that. We're gonna run go right into communications at this time. Um Mr. Scarpa I'm going to have to see the opportunity to visit weapon station. But we do plan on having a formal press release about this remarkable achievement and will celebrate in all three schools and make sure wall space to provide additional details. I don't have anything specific on the project. >> Sure. Thank you, Mr. Scarpa. Um that basically uh we have been approached by DCO um to do uh what we were they referred to of uh bringing almost like a celebration a project celebration into the schools. Um that uh They wanted to bring interns of some of some of their DC this is DCO to showcase all the work that's been done

097uh marketing folks to take f uh photos video videos of course and then uh including you know people from the staff and the district students um and a brief presentation on projects quick tour of the facilities highlights basic making it more of a very public celebration so more to be when we uh get more information about that we'll share with the board >> to the Department of Energy maybe Trump administration come on by and check out what we've done. Might be worth a shot. Okay. Um sorry. So, uh we're done with communications. I'm sorry. I was uh reading something. Um All right. We're going to move right into curriculum. We have quite a few um uh points under there. Is Mrs. Cameron still on? Yes. >> Okay. Uh Mrs. Cameron, if you wanted to start

098the curriculum >> work session. >> Okay. Number one is um 2025 Veterans Day programs in the Colts Neck Township schools. So Veterans Day will be celebrated across all three schools. Um the Conover Road Primary School and Elementary School will have a joint assembly on Thursday, November 20th at 9:30 at the primary school that will include special student performances. um the Colts High School JOTC program, uh Naval Weapons Station Earl Commanding Officer Captain Smith, and then the middle school will host its annual Colts Neck Community Veteran Veterans Day program in partnership with the Women's Club of Colts Neck and Colts Neck Recreation on Tuesday, November 11th at 11:00 a.m. Students in grades six to eight at the middle school will receive uh will send letters of thanks and appreciation to Colts neck veterans. Staff receive a

099list from the Colts neck community recreation organization and Earl sends us an active duty list to ensure that we communicate to all veterans. So I actually want to uh thank President Vulpi for extending the invitation to all board of ed members. If um any board of ed members are interested in attending either or both programs, uh just reach out to Dr. Garbe. >> Any comments on number one? >> Um wait, Mr. Scales? >> No, I was going to say no. >> Oh, okay. Sorry. No, uh you could continue, Mrs. Camera. >> Okay. Um, number two is just a reminder that at the November 19th, 2025 RAM meeting, we will have um the district will be recognizing um the administration especially will be recognizing um and celebrating students who earn perfect scores that's at 850 on

100the 2025 NJSLA. So from grades 3 to 8, there were a total of 12 perfect scores on um either math CLA or both. And um as a member of this board of education, this is one of my greatest privileges is honoring and celebrating the achievements of our students. And I feel like I can speak for all of us with that. Um okay. Any uh comments on number two? >> No. Great idea. >> Uh no. >> All right. Uh moving on to number three. This is something new. It's the library standards pilot. So, um, what it is, it's New Jerseyy's rolling out new information literacy student learning standards. And these standards help students learn how to find, evaluate, and use information effectively and responsibility. So, the New Jersey State Library, NJSL, received a grant to help

101schools and librarians prepare for these new standards through a project called teaching information literacy. So, what's happening neck is that Susan Frick, that's the district's um prek through fifth grade media specialist, will pilot, she'll test out one of the four pillars of the information literacy with a specific grade level between January and March of 2026. Her pilot will help determine how these lessons and activities can be best incorporated into classrooms. and as she participates, updates will be shared with the board of education on what's being learned and how it may shape the district's future library and media curriculum. So, you know, just in short, um the way the pilot works, there's many teachers and librarians across New Jersey who can join online, uh training, uh modules and optional live workshops to learn about the standards.

102And pilot schools like us get to try out these lessons developed for different grade levels and the feedback from these pilot classrooms will be used to refine the final learning activities before full uh before full statewide implementation. Okay. So that's um any any comments on the pilot program? >> Uh nobody. >> Okay. Uh number four, this is on I believe our district website. It's the Mammoth 250. Um um semiquincentual, right? Is that how you say it? Semi >> Quincentennial. Thank you. I knew something sounded right. Wrong. Um so there's a poetry contest. It's open for grades three to five. Prompt, what is America to me? There's an essay contest for grades six to eight. The prompt is uh what does patriotism mean to me? Entries are being accepted for two cont for both contests for

103Mammoth County students. Um, this is all part of celebrating the upcoming 250th birthday and the contest is hosted by the Mammoth New Jersey 250 committee and the deadlines are coming up. Um, our students only have till November 14th if they're interested. It's also this is information is also posted on the website. Correct Dr. Garvey? >> Correct. >> Perfect. Okay. So if parents are interested, students are interested, that's where you can um read and get more information. Um any other comments? >> Just one for me like I are we going to award a Colts neck winner? The entries are sent right. >> Because like I'm thinking myself like whatever I mean say we only get a few. I don't I don't think the county and like our our town's doing enough to celebrate 250. Like so

104think about like from a a board of ed perspective like we've got one of the oldest schools in New Jersey that's like right down the street right so my vision's wild idea but my vision to celebrate for us is to have a board meeting in that school and then you can have the children give us these read these uh these poetries and these essays to us during so we can do our own celebration. So I just don't know if the children are understanding what >> what's occurring like this is a big milestone for democracy. So >> well if you want to go ahead go ahead. >> So just to couple on that we and to add on to that. So as an administrative team we're planning things. So in other words almost like leading up

105to it. So we want to certainly recognize that it is like as you said a milestone. Um I I I definitely recognize your your suggestion. There are no lavatories at Montre. I just want to make sure you recognize that there are no >> rough [laughter] it like they did. >> So, um, but certainly we're going to be putting together in addition to things and I know that Mrs. Camera had reached out um to the township, right, Mrs. Camera with regard to saying how can we partner, what can we do and that type of thing. So, I think we're still looking at different ideas even flag. >> Awesome. Thanks for listening. >> I'm sorry. I'll mention it now. Um so tomorrow um the town the uh the committee um I'm on the uh the 250th committee

106uh for the town. They are having their first meeting and um it is for me to then bring back information to um Dr. Garvey and to the board about what we can specifically do in the schools. So, so it is happening, Rob. It's just it's just a you're you're like a a few steps ahead. >> Nice. Okay. >> It will be happening >> naturally. Thank you. >> Okay. Um, anyone else with um number four? >> Uh, no, we're good. Thank you. >> Okay. Number civics into the curriculum highlight of course Dr. Reynolds and Dr. list and districtric warehouse members having >> Mr. Ragnet do you want to respond? >> Hold on. >> I'm gonna look into it more uh and then at the next probably next uh meeting. We'll discuss more if I think there

107needs to be more added to it, but um >> Okay, that's fine. Yep. We look forward to your >> review. >> I haven't yet with the big weekend with Halloween in my son's hockey this past weekend, so I haven't got a chance to look at it yet, but I will. >> Yep. Thank you. The last thing we want to discuss or notit learning at school of concerns are that validation in a US context improvement of the data privacy information or psycholog The cost of the survey is $9,000 which is relative instruction. At this point for discussion that was just information. >> So Phyllis thank you very much for presenting that. I have a question. So in three years uh we have about 1100 participants across three schools. Three schools we spend 27,000 on this survey

108of course three times three. What have we learned? I'm I'm looking at here a pretty general qual survey. And have we learned anything that has impacted our a change for the better for the program? >> The overall instructional program. Yeah. So when we're looking at screen Yeah. Where stoms do know value. how they perceive themselves as a learner. So from the screen we set up individual I mean that trouble all the things that are function. self awareness We do this twice. So having said that we have Congress, they will be recommen for small groups. You know, all of those selfd in my last knowing your students. They feel connected. So it's not what we do a lot of things that respond to that respond. What are we doing? How do you feel about your school?

109How do you feel about yourself as a learner? Do you see yourself? How many times have we just make ourselves aware of child. >> Well, I I I that's fantastic. Thank you for this detail. Uh it just sounds like it's a bit duplicative to what the teachers are doing on a daily basis, especially with the parent teacher conferences. So, in the eyes of a parent, we're going to ask our children. I like using my brain. Learning is difficult. I find school work too difficult for me. These are very subjective questions largely depending upon the mood of a third. >> So, the third ask is I like to use my brain. My son is going to say no on a Monday and probably yes on a Thursday. So my concern is here if it's issue twice

110a year obviously there's a latency in the results coming out. How effective can you actually possibly change a programur based upon a time >> don't forget this is just one part they're asking questions whatever it like aggregate that I'm just struggling to see are all these questions fair. Yes. Do I think they're daily basis of teacher? Absolutely. I just feel like it just provides another data point to something they already know and I don't see the real value. I I know the questions have value, but I don't I know these questions are already being covered in other areas. And and to be fair, these kids are not going to respond accurately on some of these things. I try to do my best in class. say yes to that. I mean like I I just >>

111to get into trouble during recess or lunch I'm struggling to see the value proposition. That's only my >> I want I want to I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Do you want to go? >> Okay. Um I want to just make a brief comment. I don't want to I I don't want to carry on about this. I spoke privately with Dr. Garvey. She knows um um the direction I want to take with this. I want it removed from the district. I think it's pointless all the questions here. No mean no disrespect to you, but I I'm who I am and I say it how it is. Half of these questions if I asked my daughter, she'd be basically confined to a nutouse. Okay? She I would ask her half of these things about how she feels one

112day when I punish her or I take something away. She'd come into school miserable, angry, and um um I know exactly how she would answer this. Does that mean my daughter needs to be flagged that she she has some some type of mental issue? The district by applying this is just creating problems that don't exist. That is my opinion. You guys all have the right to speak the way you want, but I think this should be removed. It's a waste of money and I don't approve of it. So, I'll let the board decide whatever they want. We'll make the decision today and um we'll move on. >> I agree with >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> Um I'm sorry, Mrs. Cameron. Could you let I just have one quick comment. If you look at if you

113look at number 25, I'm not good at solving problems. And then one of the answers is no, not at all. That provides a double negative there. So that's really confusing for kids. Uh if they're saying no, because they no, not at all. No, I'm not good at solving problems. Yes, I am good at solving problem. That that's kind of confusing, especially for a third grader. So, but I'm I'm on the board with you guys just getting rid of kids. >> Yeah, it's it's it's $9,000 kids. Every time our children come into this school, every minute valued and it's an opportunity to have them learn what we're paying the district to teach them. Not about their feelings. That's my job to teach my kid about how they feel, whether they not have friends, whether they feel

114they're good learners. I I just feel this is unacceptable. It shouldn't even be in here. But like I said, I discussed this privately with Dr. Garvey. She knows my feelings out of respect. Um she she wanted to present it to the board. I thought it was appropriate to give her the opportunity to do so. I wonder that this board does not support it. So, I'm gonna leave it at that. You want to make any final comments? We can move on. >> No, just >> I'm sorry, Mrs. I I ran you over. I'm sorry. >> Okay. >> They know our students. They build relationships with our students. They identify those students who need daily interaction particular that we did add last year to teach our students. I also want to program at the very end of

115this year social emotional learning comp into the minders and collaboration instruction. So I don't again resources are much better directed toward you know our students evidence. I just add I know our teachers we have great teachers and I think they really know our students well and they would they identified any issue certainly come to attention our counselors administration have total faith in our school teachers for recognizing uh the talent our children and any issues that may they have in the classroom. So I don't think we should be doing this as well. I think some of these questions are just really invasive for small kids. >> Am I smart? If the kid isn't smart, how's that going to make the kid feel? He actually has to check off. Yes or no? So I again, Dr. Gabby,

116I do respect your your reasoning for keeping this. I do understand it. But as a parent, I think we should know our children. Our teachers should know our children. And this is I feel not really needed going in the future. This continue. >> All right. Uh anybody else final comments? I don't >> No, same thing. I just wanted to tie it back to Alicia's comments from communications. Um you know, we're there's some there's parents in the district that share our sentiment. Um again, I think exactly your comments, I think everyone's hit the nail on the head. Our teachers, our district cares about our children, but It's just it's just not necessary. But we we do appreciate the intent of it. It's just unfortunately it has consequences. God forbid there was a catastrophic breach of data,

117things of that nature. So those are just things we need to be mindful of collecting unnecessary data. But to your to your point, Mr. Scar, like how are we applying it? What are we learning from it? And it's $9,000. I hate to say this, but software software world. You've seen how the test is administrated already. So we wouldn't have to pay that another year. We let's just say this was statemandated. We'd be able to administer ourselves without right. So that's kind of there's just there's so many red flags versus positive. So that's all. >> Okay. Any anybody else final final comment? Comment. Okay. Um Mrs. Camera um you finished? >> Yes. Thank you. >> Okay. So, I want to make sure that you get the final word. Whatever you >> can feel I think we

118I think it speaks for itself. We're discontinuing. We will not um we are not going to render this to our students this year. It'll be full. >> Yes. Yeah, that's correct. Okay. >> Okay. All right. And yes, and we can use that time that was set aside for this to actually teaching our kids. Um Okay, we're moving on to uh uh finance. Um Mr. Aro, uh do you want to touch base on those few items? >> Yes. So the vandalism establishing fees for damages specifically for Chromebooks um whatever is going to whatever it costs whether it's an accident or not we are going to we are going to um put the cost on the parents um we have policy 7610 under vandalism and then regulation 7610 under vandalism as well. Um any any vandalism done

119to the school, any vandalism done to the Chromebooks, any vandalism done inside, outside or any type of school property um will now be the financial responsibility of the parents whether it's an accident or not. Um it's been tens of thousands of dollars. I think if we added it all up over the years, it's probably over a couple million. And that's real money. And that's not money that should be spread around to taxpayers and parents who are responsible for school property. All right. And uh to health benefits change, Vince, you can uh or Miss Gabby, you can go over that, but um we're moving on January 1st, 2026 to a self-insured model um with health plans um with the Sigma network. Um was a meeting, I believe it was on Monday, um with the administrators of

120that network, our broker, and I heard everything went pretty well, pretty smooth on that. group. >> Yes. I guess you would say they were also on the scene here. That's correct. That's correct. And uh once we make this switch um the realized savings should at the very least be around 280,000 and change um for the year. That's yet to be determined come January 1st. I want to take this time to thank uh Jason for putting in the That's a lot of time, a lot of work, a lot of research to get a very significant savings. Any savings is a savings and that's a significant savings. So, thank you Jason for being diligent about it and not giving up. It's a quality that I know. So, I appreciate that. >> Thank you, Jason. One more thing

121on vandalism. I know that we originally discussed the fees associated with the technology fees. So, we intend to still keep technology in place for the time being. That's okay. But if we consider perhaps revisiting it after we get the message out there and perhaps some retribution from from offenders to help lessen the cause. I want to show you still have it on agenda. This was born out of also point of messaging. I have heard from students some students believe the laptops cost $50. So they It's only $50. >> So they think by them damaging it damaging a small app and it's on loan to them for a technology. So if we continue to administer technology and remind students to your points after we've gotten some money from vandalism. >> Yeah. And one quick example, when

122the student liaison were up here and the one child asked for the um dividers between the urinals, we did that. It cost a district north of $12,000. Uh I learned that those dividers were ripped off the walls, broke in half, and peed on by stu by by students in this district. That is something that is completely and utterly reprehensible. We we listened. We spent money and that's what happens. No, I that and it's upsetting that I I wish things like these would be brought to my attention because I really want to be a part of what happens with that decision making going forward with the vandalism simply because I I I don't I want to be involved because those kids that were involved, the parents need to pay for that. And if they if they

123don't want to pay for that, then then those don't get put back up. And when the student liaison come back up here again and they they ask why, we can tell them why, right? Because I'm not going to sit here and listen to suggestions and go forward with those suggestions, have have taxpayer money spent on those suggestions, and then have some have vandalism like that happen. And now what? It's going to cost us another 20 uh another $12,000 to put those back up or more. Now we're talking about a 20 $24,000. That is that is terrible. >> I I definitely um respect your remarks and I understand your frustration. I too was angry to hear that. Um from my meeting today with Dr. Gave, Mr. Moretta had rectified it, had repaired it, and uh it

124didn't cost us any further um cost because Mr. Moretta out of the kindness of his heart, he's very handy. He fixed it. I from that time when that was when that happened, there was no more future vandalism occurred with that particular >> certain. >> Okay, that's fine. All right. I just want to make sure. So, we're that that has ceased. Um my question to you well my statement to you is yes I do understand your frustration but I don't think it's fair to penalize all the liaison even though that was unacceptable. I'm not I'm not agreeing your comment in any way shape or form but some of these kids that do come up they have no idea what happened and I'm sure that if they did they would probably be discussed as well as we

125are. >> Absolutely. And I understand that and I'm not I'm not you know I'm not saying anything negative about the student liaison. I'm just saying we we take their comments into serious consideration and that serious consideration turns into serious money for this district >> and for something like that to happen now it's going to give me it's going to give me pause. Yeah, I understand. I respect that. But >> yeah, the other thing is the other thing is like, you know, I don't know >> there needs to be accountability. >> I don't know the whole story of how it happened and and the investigative um aspect of it. Um if the school found out who it was, I I really don't know that. And Dr. J, I'm sure you know um if we requested, she

126could look into it with Dr. Bridby and we could get to the bottom of this. Um but like going forward, I understand this is one incident. I certainly don't want to hurt the liazison program, but once again, are directing the liaison that we don't have to spend money to make significant um memorable change with their positions. You know what I mean? Me and Brian sat with them. They're discussing how to improve the Chromebook vandalism, how to go about um you know the the food the cafeteria uh structure we have. So, it's not always going to cost us money, but I absolutely respect uh your position. It's very frustrating, but I hope going forward um we'll get a grip on vandalism and will not occur again. So, here I do appreciate your comments on it. Um,

127all right. Anybody else want to add to that? All right. If not, we're going to try to get right into policy and um and then don't forget we have an executive session tonight. Um, so yeah, go ahead. >> No, I think um topic one, principal bill of rights. I mean, it's like I had a crystal ball. Honestly, it is like I had a crystal ball. And I and I'll give you the exact moment when I thought about bringing up the parental bill of rights is when I heard our new governor elect, Mikey Cheryl, talk about her forcing the LGBT curriculum on our students in every district in the state of New Jersey. My intentions with the parental bill of rights and the parents that have voted us all in, we've received feedback from almost everyone.

128We have had countless meetings with administrative, countless meetings with our parental advisory committee. We have heard great feedback and honestly the feedback's been overwhelming and it's I I love it because it is a collective agreement that parental rights is it's it's given from the Lord to be honest with you, right? The parental bill of rights is given by God, right? And what we do and how we founded our constitution is we take those rights and we put them down paper so everyone can see what those rights are. So some of the questions we got are are we changing anything and Sarah you've mentioned that as well. The short answer is no we are not changing anything. What this will do and we are now seeing it in real and live time is it'll expose who

129is removing that right from you as a parent. Right? So to go back to everything we are not changing anything. We are simply putting the rights down on paper as a summary for every parent to see, for every teacher to see, from every administrator. Now we have a single source of truth of what that right is. What it will expose is it'll expose the party that is accountable for removing that right from a parent. Now, I'll go back to my original comments. This LGBTQ that our new governor elect would like to force onto the schools. The way that it says it right now and what we are highlighting as the parental right is that you have the ability to opt out of that as a parent. You have the right to opt your child out

130of that curriculum. Right? But what is going to happen is that she and her administration will now go in and try to force the removal of that right. Now we are binded by law and all of us are law by citizens and we've been elected to protect the Constitution and laws of the United States. So what we have to do by law we have to do. But what it will do in the court of public opinion is expose who is removing that right from you as a parent. So again we are not changing anything. This is simply going to be a summary. We've taken great feedback and we have listed how to get to the exact policy that's referenced in that particular area. And now we now have a steadfast foundation that we can operate

131on and always reference if there is any change to any type of curriculum, any change to any rights or any laws or anything. It's a living and breathing document that will remain. So that's um my sort of soap box if you will. But again, you're seeing it in live in real time. So I don't know if anyone has any questions on that, but we I think Sarah, Dr. Garang, president, you guys have a fantastic job leading the parental advisory committee with their feedback and I think we've addressed everything that um they have wanted us to address. >> Correct. >> I do want to make a comment, Mr. Scales. I'm glad this is kind of winding down, coming to an end. Um, I do want to reiterate your comments that uh we did incorporate um thousands,

132it feels like thousands, maybe hundreds of hours um of feedback and um comments, questions, um opposition, all of that. Um I'm really I'm very confident in the document. I'm confident in our legal team. Uh they, like I said, we repeated a few times that they reviewed it several times. the document is sound and uh I know we had a request about going to a third party. I will not seek a third uh third legal opinion. Um we have a we hired our attorneys to represent us and I'm completely confident in this law group uh to do so. Um so I will expect uh the uh full second read the adoption or whatever on the 19th and uh it will be passed as is. Thank you. Uh, go. Uh, number two. >> I said, >> "No,

133no, please." >> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. >> Okay. It's okay. Um, >> I'm sorry. I know. >> It's all right. >> We're behind. We're behind. Um, yeah. 8:30. >> Please, Vinnie. Please. [clears throat] >> So, everyone uh everyone knows that we have the specific opt out for healthcare and so >> for parents listening tonight as especially after what happened with the election outcome last night. Um, and then and that's being brought to attention on social media now. um in a spotlight uh today um regarding social studies and LGBTQ um uh historical characters and historical events uh containing to LGBTQ in in social studies. How would the uh people for peaceful listening how would the parental rights um pertain to that or could we do we need to do a specific opt out for

134that? And um if Dr. can answer that. Would that um would teachers be able to before those lessons are being taught be able to notify parents about that? And uh how was that put into the curriculum weaved in? Rob, if you can you want to answer the first part? >> I'll let you go first and then I can I'll explain. I mean, it's it's addressed in a section in the do that while Yeah. No, it's it's addressed in there. It shows you what again what the right is as a parent. You have the right to opt out, right? There's been there's the Supreme Court has addressed it. And that's the thing is what will happen is again, you know, law is open for interpretation. That's the whole point. That's why you know some of the

135fact that things in the bill of rights are too vague. It's intentional because law is vague. Constitution is vague. It's up for interpretation. But we will always reference the law at that time. It's a living and breathing document. So we have the right to opt out and then if they disagree with that then they would have to challenge it. >> Dr. Gra. Um, in in the Rubicon, do parents know when that lesson those lessons are coming up or teachers do they notify parents when those lessons are coming up yet? When those particular um social studies lessons are coming up, those particular Sure. It's slick. We're trying to push the agenda in different facet of education, which is we will not >> again we're looking said before, but just to clarify, you're looking into if >>

136legally we can also do an opt out for those social studies lessons as well too. Is that something we could Thank you. >> Anything else? >> No, that's it. That's it's on number one. Number two, again, we have that that's being reviewed. Um I don't know if anyone has any questions on either of these, but uh fall into effect. We are receiving some communications on procedurally agreement for every hours. Long I don't think Dr. question. My own participant is on the LO they have a right time >> current. So when they're out they don't earn addition. You're not earning along. And number three, you can that I'm assuming no news is good news. >> We are still moving along for the school board elements of the policy manual are now going to become free for

137everyone. It is currently a service that we have. So I'm speaking with our represent learning a new system and all things and then we can revise. There are some things we do want to administration probably January schools gave us based on what policies are. I'm interested to see what they want to get for free. It's odd to me like oh no don't worry about this is free you can use these policies but got to go through those right what are what's in there so that's the scary but great yeah so I think yeah moving along and then number four annual technology usage kind of talked about that throughout the thing so we're good to go I don't know if anyone has any questions but these all these policies even though they're a little bit older

138I still pretty up to date so good guard rails that's just my position on all them that's it for me if no one has any questions Great. Excellent work. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> All right. We have nothing under uh transportation this evening. Um some items under personnel. I don't know if you uh want to make some comments on those. >> All right, that's fine. Moving right into our second uh comment section of the evening. Um if anybody likes to get up uh make a comment. Okay. Uh nobody at this time would like to do that. uh public comment. Uh I know maybe some of you had some new business tonight. I'd like to open the floor to you first. Oops. I hear Phyis. We'll give Mrs. Camera the four. >> Okay. I just

139want to explain what's going on public schools are funded in the state and this review is part of 2016 budget funding policies which we have criticized numerous times and they're considering possible And how this is really important for local resback recommendations of education. So anyone online, how transport is calculated, how special formula is determined and reimburse. So the deadline for the link on social We really want to fill out a lot of resourc and filling out that matter what we say and just encourage I think everybody would here would like the opportunity to partake in that and I think Mr. wants to comment as well. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I just want to make sure if you can if you don't mind getting an email out in the next few days because I know we're

140all busy and sometimes that'll fall by the wayside >> and it'll be >> Oh, yeah. Thank you, Dr. Gar will remind us a third time. So, that's uh that'll be great. Um, thank you, Mrs. Anything else? >> Okay. Okay. Um, anybody else have any new Okay. Um um anybody else? All right. I want to finish I have a statement. Uh I want to finish the meeting with this. Um uh as the board knows, I am very uh disheartened about the um incoming um governor uh the governor elect. I uh certainly didn't support either candidate. I didn't think either of them uh were worth anything to be honest with you. Um but I just want to make this statement to make sure that the community is clear on this board's uh position. Uh as president of

141the Coulson Board of Education, I want to make it absolutely clear where this board stands. We will not allow any outside political agenda from Trenton or anywhere else to dictate what happens in our classrooms. Our responsibility is to the children and families of Colac. We will not permit the sexual sexualization of our students under the guise of curriculum. Education in our district will remain focused on academics character and respect, not ideology. Let me be very clear. This board will challenge any mandate that conflicts with the values of this community or the rights of parents to guide their ch children's moral and educational development. We will not be bullied, pressured, or intimidated into accepting anything that undermines the standards of decency and integrity that defines Col. This board stands firmly for conservative principles, parental involvement, and

142the protection of our children. That commitment is nonnegotiable. We will continue to fight for what's right and ensure that Col remains a district guided by faith, family, and freedom. I want to make a last comment that um this governor is actually salivating and cannot wait to sexualize our curriculum and we got certain unions that are right up behind her ready to to push it. And I'm not going to stand for it. Nobody's going to bully this board. Those are my final comments tonight. Um I'd like to make a motion to We're going to go into executive session. Executive session will be about five minutes. Um uh yeah, no live streaming. Uh the live streaming will end. No action will be taken and it will run about five minutes. Uh yeah, potential litigation matters. Um at

143this time, if I could get a motion to adjurnn and move into executive session. >> Motion. All right, great. Bye, fellas. >> All right, guys. We're gonna try to get this Yes, I