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8-18-25 Denville NJ BOE Board Meeting

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2025-08-19
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Morris County, NJ
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2026-06-18

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001All right, thank you very much um for being patient. We are 3 minutes beyond our 7:30 start time, so I apologize. Uh we'll continue on with the agenda. The next item on the agenda is the pledge of allegiance. But before we do that, is the camera and session live or it's working? Okay, so if everyone can please rise. Okay. So, on October 13th, there will be a special presentation which will be the 2024 2025 HIV self-grading. Uh, next item on the agenda, superintendent comments. Dr. Forte. Um, the floor is yours. >> Okay, just a few things here. Um, our Dville Education Foundation golf outing is going to be on October 16th. The PTA meeting, I have a PTA meeting scheduled with the presidents of all the PTAs, Sandy and myself and James. It'll be at

002the Barn Cafe on August 26th at 2 PM. If two more board members want to come, that'd be fine. We we wouldn't be able to have more than two more because um we'll be talking about stu school business. So, if um anybody else wants to come, shoot me an email and I'll track it to see who's doing it. Again, it'll be August 26 at 2 PM at the Barn Cafe. All three schools have been reertified as bronze level sustainable jersey. So that was pretty cool. Um I wanted to thank our green team and the township green team for their hard work. We also partner with St. What's that called? St. Not St. Francis um the Oaks at Franciscan Oaks. We partner with them. Um it's really been um a great um a great addition to

003our team and um we will have our group here to present at a board meeting with some students in the next um three or four meetings. Back to school nights. Lake View will be September 9th at 6:30 p.m. Valley View September 10th at 6:30 p.m. and Riverview at 6:30 p.m. on September 11th. I'd like to get um one or two, even three board members at each one. And I appreciate if you could get to me ASAP with who's coming. Just shoot me an email saying I can go to this one or that one. It would it would be great if we could have at least two at each and I will be speaking at each one of them this year. So, please uh please reach out, shoot me an email. Also, we're looking for emails

004about if anybody wants to come on August 27, 26th at 2 and then the 9th, 10th, and 11 for back to school nights. Send me an email and I will um organize all this and send it back out. That's it for superintendent comments. >> Is it August 27th convocation? August, the board, everybody received their uh their invite in invitation today on the 20 the 27th at 8 a.m. for the convocation. >> Thank you very much. Assistant superintendent comments, Dr. Cullis. We currently are sitting at 170 students in our kindergarten class. At Lake View we have 79 and Riverview we have 91. And probably the biggest upcoming change is that this year there will be a new NJSLA assessment and it's called the adaptive. We were just informed uh on Thursday. So, at this point, we

005really know nothing about the assessment or when the trainings will be. It looks like the only thing we really know at this point is we'll do a field test in October and November at some point and then it will be live in the spring um assessments, uh, spring of 26. So, that's this year. We do know that the new assessment will be tailored and it adapts similar to what our dream box math does where the qu they're given a series students are given a series of questions and if they miss a certain number of them they start to change and and uh make the questions a little bit easier or a little more challenging and try to find more of a or a more targeted range of where the student might be performing. So, it

006won't be standardized in that all students would receive the same assessment, but I don't really know much more than that. And as it information comes out, we'll inform the parents and we'll inform the board and like the the staff doesn't even know yet. So, this was just announced and not a lot of details, but more will be coming. This concludes assistant superintendent's report. >> Great. Thank you. And business administrator comments. On tonight's agenda, there's a resolution to approve the increase in insurance uh insurance for the Chromebooks from $30 to $50. This will help with the cost to repair the Chromebooks. We have not had an increase uh ever since we implemented the onetoone Chromebook in the district. So, this is the first time we had we need the increase. Thank you. >> All right. Thank

007you, Miss Kaskki. Okay. We'll go ahead and open it up for public questions or comments. It is now 7:39. >> Uh could you just Yeah. uh write your name, state your name and address and also if you can sign in and use the mic uh for recording purposes. Thank you. >> Mic. >> We can wait till the end if you need to. >> Yeah, I was going to say I can make an exception. Normally this uh this portion would be for agenda items only, but we'll go ahead and make the exception. H. >> Um, so my name is Bonnie Angelhar. I'm One Hickory. I forgot we got to hold it. >> Oh, yeah. >> Um, my name is Bonnie Anglehar. I'm at one Hickory Road in Denville, right over behind Lake View. And my granddaughter

008started Lake View Preschool this past March. And first of foremost, I need to say she's doing amazing. She's leaps and bounds. She's been classified. And um as far as the daycare transportation, that's our main concern for being here. When we had our initial meetings, um, we were never told that there was a approved list where she could be transferred to. We were told as long as it's in Danville, we can we can drive her there because we originally going to go to Rockaway. They're like, we can't take her there. We're like, okay. You know, they said don't go to learning experience. Little learner little learners is out of their budget. Rhyme or reason has nothing until next school year. So we ended up with Goddard. Well, and then after we find out and she's there

009and doing amazing there as well, we find out she can't be busted Goddard and all of us working, you know, we can't take the time to pick her up from Lake View to drive her over to Goddard. So what is the reason like being like they don't transport to Goddard? Cuz >> can I just add too that when I worked for the uh transportation on the bus, we did bust the director's kids there. So I feel if you can bust the director's kids there, you should be able to bust, you know, our kid there just for the fact of we pay a lot of taxes for transportation and to the school. Um, you know, I just think it's it's not fair to everyone else that they have to choose between being able to afford daycare

010or, you know, having to leave work um to to transport your own child when there's a very limited amount of daycarees in um Dville. That being we're on our early 20s that we can afford. >> Yeah. So, you know, we really are just want to address the the busing situation with Goddard. >> So, this is the first I'm hearing about it. No, I didn't hear from you about this first. Um, if you want, I'll give you a call tomorrow. >> Okay. Because I reached out to Grace and we reached out to Stacy and we were told that there's not enough manpower. Well, and we were also told it's because of the the U-turn you have to do where, you know, it takes longer to get to Rhyme of Reason here than to do that U-turn

011and to get to Goddard from Lake View. Um, and just because, you know, I I'm sure there's probably, you know, students that live back in Opaki and on Casterland. Even if she was on a bus with those kids, that would be fine. It's just, you know, it's unfair to us to have to take the time out of our pay to be able to bring her to daycare when we're paying taxes for her to be transported. >> Yeah. >> Give you a call tomorrow. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you. Uh thank you for your comments. Y >> All right. Seeing uh no one else online, no one online and no one else coming to up to the microphone, we'll close open comments at 7:43 p.m. >> All right. Next on the agenda is

012old business action to be taken. Mrs. Adelis, uh could you walk us through old business action to be taken, please? >> I sure can. Uh so the following resolutions have been recommended by the superintendent of schools to the board of education for approval. I move to approve the following resolutions. Uh under the reports for July 2025, the treasurer of school monies report, the board secretary report, uh and the minutes from the July 14th, 2025 work and regular session meetings. >> I'll second. >> Thank you. Questions or comments? >> Roll call, please. >> Dr. Moore, >> yes. >> Mr. Delis, >> yes. >> Mr. Cass, >> yes. Mr. Anderson. >> Yes. >> Mr. Capello. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kim. >> Yes. All right. Under new business action to be taken. Mr. Capello, can you walk us

013through personnel, please? >> Uh, I'd be happy to. Uh, if there are no objections under personnel, I would like to move um items 1 through 11. Uh I do have some additions and changes uh to number uh item one E uh where it says Karen Molina instead of LV it should be RV for Riverview. Um under you uh Diane Carry it says uh bus aid it should say lunch and bus aid. Uh and finally um we also for number one we have two uh items on the addendum V and W for Katherine Bant and W is uh Shelley Household and Victoria Train. >> I'll second. >> Thank you. Any questions or comments? >> Uh I do Oh, sorry. Uh I do want to uh call out we uh congratulations. We do have some staff members

014that are retiring. Uh looks like Janice Roland, uh Linda Simonus, Anne Stark, uh and uh Diane Carrie, which I believe that's everybody that's retiring. Congratulations to them. >> Seeing no one else, uh roll call, please. >> Dr. Moore, >> yes. >> Miss Delos, >> yes. >> Mr. Cass. >> Yes. >> Mr. Anderson. >> Yes. >> Mr. Capello. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kim. >> Yes. Dr. Moore, can you walk us through IMPP, please? >> Sure. Um, I'd like to move uh the following resolutions under instruction and program. Uh item number one, workshops and expenses. Uh there's the NJA fall conference. There's retroactive for LinkedIn for um two individuals. And then item number two is the approval of classroom use of appliances refrigerator coffee maker for community-based life skills instruction program at Valley View. Second. Thank you.

015Any questions or comments? >> Roll call, please. >> Dr. Moore. >> Yes. >> Miss Delos. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cass. Yes, >> Mr. Anderson. >> Yes, >> Mr. Capello. >> Yes, >> Mr. Kim. >> Yes. The next item on the agenda is governance. I'll walk through the two resolutions as seen on the agenda. First is to approve the 2526 board goals. Goal number one is to strengthen the onboarding tools available for new board members where the objective is to develop a comprehensive onboarding tools aligned with policy 0144. Goal number two is to formalize the process for setting go setting district and board goals where the objective will develop is to develop a structured and recurring process for creating and reviewing board and district goals. Goal number three is to advocate for district needs at all

016levels of government. Uh this objective is to actively represent Dville's interests through advocac advocacy efforts at the state, local, and national levels. And goal number four is to advance a safe, supportive, and respectful school environment by reviewing board policies on student code of conduct. The objective here is to review and enhance the code of conduct to reflect the district's commitment to safety, respect, and resiliency. Uh under two, uh the resolution is to approve the 2526 district goals. Goal number one will be to incre increase achievement for all students inclusive of all curriculum and areas with a focus on math and science. Goal number two is to continue to discuss, investigate, report and decide on solutions to challenges in the areas of instructional space, class size, uh, and finance and operations. Goal number three is to

017audit current special services programs and offerings. Consider possible additional efficient, effective, and innovative programs. Goal number four is to create a vertically aligned curriculum document with a sequence of social emotional learning skills PK to grade 8. And finally, goal number five, the district will have an updated or new district policy, uh, I'm sorry, district website in place by the start of the 2627 school year. >> I'll second. >> I heard Mr. Cass on that one. Thank you. Any questions or comments? >> Roll call, please. >> Dr. Moore, >> yes. >> Mr. Mr. Delos. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cass. >> Yes. >> Mr. Anderson. >> Yes. >> Mr. Capello. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kim. >> Yes. Under Definance. Mr. Anderson, can you walk us through that, please? >> Sure. If there are no objections under D

018finance, I'd like to move items uh number one through six as a block. I do have an uh um a modification to item number three. Um I'll read item number three just for clarification so I can make sure I get the correct uh numbers. read into the minutes. Uh item number three should read, "Be it resolved that the board retroactively approve to establish an emergency reserve account for the 2025 2026 school year and approve the following resolution regarding the emergency reserve transfer. Whereas NJSI 18A21-2, NJSA18 col 7G is engulf 31 and NJSA 18A colon 7F as in Frank 41 permits a board of education to establish and/or deposit into certain reserve accounts at year end. And whereas the affformentioned statutes authorized procedures under the authority of the commissioner of education which permit a board of

019education to transfer unanticipated excess current revenue or unexpended appropriations into reserve accounts during the month of June by board resolution and whereas the Denver Board of Education wishes to transfer the unanticipated excess current year revenue or unexpended appropriations from the general fund into an emergency reserve account at year And and whereas the Denver Board of Education has determined that an amount not to exceed $250,000 or 1% of the district's general fund budget up to a maximum of 416,000, whichever is greater. The district's original budget certified for taxes is used to calculate the maximum permitted balance. Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Denver Board of Education that it hereby authorizes the district school business administrator to make this transfer consistent with all approplicable laws and regulations. >> I'll second. >> Thank you. Uh questions or

020comments? >> Uh I do have a quick question. That last phrase suggests that the school uh let me read it. the school business administrator to make this transfer. Um, so it was my under it was my impression that the transfer wouldn't be made until later this year. Um, could you clarify that please? >> Absolutely. Uh, the transfer will be made once the audit is finalized and we know how much excess surplus the district will have at the end of this school year 24 25 to be deposited into those reserves. Uh, it could be maintenance reserve, capital reserve or emergency reserves. >> So, um I think we mentioned this earlier in the meeting, then we would have a separate resolution to vote on the actual amount to be transferred. >> We'll be yes, we'll recommend a

021resolution if if the district decides to put any funds into the emergency reserve. >> Thank you very much. >> You're welcome. Um the second question I have is that uh this is something that we would have to uh vote or uh yeah vote on every year if we wanted to continue this uh every year thereafter. Correct. >> Yes. Uh every June before this fiscal school year end, we will pass a we will ask the board to pass a res a resolution approving to uh put an excess amount of unbudgeted uh unexpended into the budget for capital maintenance or emergency reserve. But that resolution is passed during the month of June. >> I see. Okay. Thank you. If there are no further questions, roll call, please. >> Dr. Moira, >> yes. >> Misselis, >> yes. >>

022Mr. Cass, >> yes. >> Mr. Anderson, >> yes. >> Mr. Capello, >> yes. >> Mr. Kim, >> yes. >> Okay. Uh, Mr. Cass, can you walk us through operations, please? be glad to. Under transportation, there are no actions to be considered on this agenda. Item two, building and grounds. We have a bunch here. Item 2.1 is to I'm asking the board to approve the attached proposal from EI Associates for $12,000 to study possible solutions to the increased student population. And um we have EI's June 25th uh proposal uh in our package tonight for uh complete details on that. Item 2.2 two to approve a change order for additional valve replacement of masonry wall support for magic touch construction company incorporated ESC cooperative number 289 MOESC contracts 24-56 electrical services regarding the Riverview school toilet project

023and the amount of $5,385.96 and we're going to use capital reserve funds to complete that project. Item 2.3, I'm asking the board to approve the attached quote from Magic Touch Construction Company Incorporated to fix the uh Lake View School Wall Crack project ES9407.0 in the amount of $24,210 using capital reserve funds. Item 2.4 Four is to approve the attached quote from CJ Vanderbeck and Sun to repair all three boilers at Riverview in the amount of $9,980 paid from maintenance reserve. Item 2.5. I'm asking the board to approve the following resolution regarding submission of the comprehensive maintenance plan and school facilities form M-1 colon reference 01. And the uh detail on that is that the Department of Education requires school districts to submit a three-year maintenance plans documenting required maintenance activities for each of the public

024school facilities. And also activities list in the attached document for the various school facilities of the Demo School District are consistent with these requirements. And whereas all past and plan activities are reasonable to keep school facilities open and safe for use or in their original condition to keep their system warranties valid. Now therefore be resolved that the board of education hereby authorizes the school business administrator to submit the comprehensive maintenance plan and the school facilities form M-1 of the demo school district's compliance with the department of education requirements. >> I'll second. >> Thank you. Questions or comments? >> Roll call. mentioned a historic thing when Steve probably remembers this because of when he first came and they started chipping away at these various maintenance projects there we found some fans sequestered and hidden right and

025I think it was Lake View school there so part of the HVAC wasn't working nobody ever knew they they were there or maintained them so when you don't maintain these mechanical devices eventually you have problems they break down andor have to be replaced >> as I remember Don it was more than a few and they were they were like just rusted in place like they were just completely out of commission. >> It was like 50 throughout the district but it took us some time but we got it fixed. Probably took two years to get it the whole thing done but we chipped away at it a little at a time but yeah those are integral parts of the uh HVAC system and that's one of the reasons why we made it through CO so good

026because the HVAC was so squared away. I mean, that was one of the reasons why we were able to open when some other districts weren't. >> Uh, seeing no further questions or comments, roll call, please. >> Dr. Moore, >> yes. >> Mrs. Adelis, >> yes. Mr. Cass, >> no. On 2.1, yes on everything else. >> Mr. Anderson, >> yes. >> Mr. Capello, >> yes. >> Mr. Kim. >> Yes. All right. The next section of the agenda is the good of the cause committee reports, correspondents, discussion items such as building uh board meeting highlights, uh school uh schedule board members at school public events and classroom space considerations and anything else gerine to the district. I have um that you approved a study from EI to look at some possible solutions to extra students. Then I

027have the uh approval of district and board goals. Do you want to also uh throw in there the uh convocations that are coming up um as well or >> I don't usually talk about that in the public. I don't usually put that out just because it's we do it after the fact sometimes. Mr. Cam, just one thing from the Denver Education Foundation. I can't remember. I know I heard uh Dr. Forte mention the golf outing, but did you mention the movie night also? I did not. Okay. I didn't think so. So, um in addition to the golf outing, which I encourage as many board members as possible to attend. It's a it's a great event. Um they are also doing a free movie night um on Gardener Field 1, September 12th. Uh 7 p.m. they

028start, but then the movie starts at um at uh sunset. Um and it is Despicable Me 4. Thank you. Um, since we have uh board members at public events, Steve, you had mentioned the back to school nights. >> Yeah, why don't we do it right now if we can? >> I was going to suggest maybe if we can do could you refresh what 910th 11th which school which is which? Um, I also made, as I said last time, that spreadsheet with the events and as they're coming, so you guys can sign just directly up on that sheet. I can share that with you. I just made the um the shared dock, but the dates for back to school night are um Lake View is September 9th, Valley View is September 10th, and Riverview is September

02911th, and they're all at 6:30 p.m. But I'll share this if you want to put your names on it. >> Thank you. Be great. Who would like to do League View on the 9th? >> Anybody else? >> Um, I can do it. >> Yeah. And I rarely go to uh any Lake View events, so I I think I'll make the um attempt to go to the Lake View one as well. >> Okay. Valley View on the 10th. Uh that's the only night that works for me, so I'll do that one. >> I can do that one also. The 11th. How about the 11th? >> Thursday. >> That's the only one I can't make. >> So, I heard Don um should be able to make it. I'll uh >> Don at Riverview. >> Yep. And I

030could uh be present for the Riverview one as well. And I added Christina to Valley View because I know she'll be there for that. >> Uh, >> great. Thanks. And we'll use that form going forward. I'm glad we got this thing squared away now, though. >> Thank you very much. Um, so the uh PTA thing as well. Um, you said it was August 28th, I believe. >> 26, forgive me. Do we want to see if we can hash that out as well? Is there anyone else available? >> Sure. If anybody else is going to go, that'd be great. >> Did you say 2 o'clock? >> 2 p.m. >> I mean, I I should be able to go unless somebody else wants to. >> What date was that again? Sorry. >> It's a Tuesday. >> 26th

031of August. >> Actually, no. Sorry. I'm actually I cannot go. All right. I have James. Oh, no. Dino, >> take me off. Sorry. >> Um, on that day, there's also uh the start of the school year. Uh, is that correct? This next day is the convocation on the 27th. >> Okay. >> Do you need RS our R our RSVPs for that or we just show up? >> No, I think it's okay. Just if there's more, just don't talk business in groups of more than three. That's all. How long is the >> about one hour an hour and a half around that? >> Um Dino had sent an email to uh myself and Michael with regards to New Jersey school boards. Um um please Dino if you will. >> Yeah. Uh yeah, Mike Mike had actually

032uh we had had this was it uh started from a conversation Mike and I had had about uh you know some advocacy around u the issue of the health insurance uh you know increases that we're seeing. Um one of the biggest problems besides the fact that they are outrageous is that they're happening at a time of year after the budget's been approved and uh you know with basically they're they're coming in halfway through a budget year. So, one of our ideas was to see if uh there might be some interest in a resolution for school boards to advocate for changing that structure. Obviously, this would only apply, I assume, to the um the state uh health plan. Obviously, private plans would be what they are, I guess. Um but this would be something that we

033would advocate with for the state or that school boards would advocate for the state to change that so that it wouldn't be such a uh uh such a problem. So, that was the idea behind that. So really it was just the timing. Um was that the >> Well, I think the one of one the one issue was the timing. Um the other issue, Mike, if correct me if I'm wrong, but we also maybe were thinking about like, you know, maybe advocating for if um if they exceeded a certain amount, right? >> Yeah. Like uh so I mean I think I I always try to say fight the fight, you could win because going in and saying, "Well, the increases are too high." and stomping your feet is probably going to result in them saying well

034too bad the insurance company's charging too much so go knock on Horizon or you know unite his door which is just going to not help any of us but one of the I think an easier win although I talked to Mrs. Gowski before the meeting and apparently it's been something that's been discussed for some time but maybe now it's out ahead where there's a lot of interest in it Mrs. Growski said one of the challenges with changing the timing from you know January to December in other words calendar year to really our fiscal year which is July to June is that the state health benefit plan there is some loose attachment to the entire state health benefit plan even though we're just the school educators which would be easy to separate there is a connection

035back to the larger plan which is probably how they're trying to negotiate from a large you know larger pool of of uh enroles uh in the plan. So, one of the challenges is you would have to separate that somehow. I I still think that's a winnable fight versus stomping our feet and saying this is too expensive. This is crazy. The other idea was and I think we need to probably go in with a few different ideas and talk to the legislative committee at New Jersey school boards to understand what they think is winnable because they have a much better idea what they think they can get through the legislature um and get support from. But the other idea would be to somehow come up with a way that there is, you know, either a secondary

036waiver halfway through the year or something that you can do to affect uh, you know, the increase in payments. Um, so maybe it's a reserve account that is more accessible, right? Like maybe there's multiple options. is we just need to go in with the problem and a few different solutions and see if we can get legislative support to say which direction would be the best for them based upon what they think they can get through. Yeah, I actually um wanted to add the emergency reserves, you know, because if that has been a challenge with the Department of Education, uh is there ways for them to loosen up the the the reigns on that, I guess, if you will, because if it is hard to get the funding, you know, in a timely manner, then if

037we can sort of give them examples of why it would benefit districts, especially if they have um the capacity at the reserve uh at the reserve level. Um so I mean districts that are fiscally responsible, districts that are uh fiscally healthy should be able to uh have more ways of addressing issues with the budget rather than putting the burden solely on the taxpayer. So >> yes, so my my understanding is um the delegate assembly, right? There's two each year. There's one. And then I believe if I recall correctly, there was an email that just went out recently about um resolutions would have to be uh submitted I think by the end of uh the end of September, beginning of October. >> Yeah. >> October 3rd. Yeah. >> So, and and maybe either Mr. Kim or

038Mr. Capello can let me know because I know you guys have been part of that and thank you for, you know, working on it. But how does that work? In other words, do we have to have this completely buttoned up and written to them or is this something we work with school boards legislative uh representatives to help build what that looks like? I'm not I'm not we're not a writer of legislation. >> James, I know you you were involved mostly in the last one, right? I mean, you know, how did how did that go for like how did you >> Yeah. So, they have a a list of bylaws or the their bylaws is there a a collection of resolutions passed over the course of uh time or the over the course of their existence.

039And those bylaws are are approved resolutions and that's sort of the position that they hold. So our homework is to go through those bylaws to see which uh resolutions or which bylaws we would want to modify and then develop a resolution and approve it here at the district level and then submit it to the delegate assembly. So uh they would their lawyers would review it and then there would be a conversation or discord back and forth on uh what uh what they felt. So >> so so with that in mind maybe an idea would be and I'm happy to help out with this. We've got a short period of time here, about a month or so to really less than a month probably, right, to get something set up. I I might suggest that we

040potentially go to some of our local legislators and say, "Hey, is this something that you think even has some traction and which which direction has the best traction so that we know kind of I mean, number one, we might be able to get a uh a sponsor um potentially, but also just understand what direction we should go because I don't think we could write something that's all-encompassing, right? I mean, >> yeah, I think we could take uh multiple approaches, you know. Um I I want to discuss it at governance and uh during this next meeting and see if we can hash out because there's other ideas like transportation that I wanted to address as well. And I think this would be a perfect thing to try to push through uh for our next governance meeting.

041So >> Mike, I think your I mean I think your point's a valid one. The only thing is it's a slightly different audience. like the legislators are going to be important at the end, but we have to get the school districts that attend school boards to dele delegate assembly to vote yes. So yeah, I mean I think you're right. Like you do want to walk in there saying that yes, there are legislators who are generally supportive of this and think it's a good idea. I think that'll help, but at the end of the day, the first step is convincing those, you know, the other districts. >> Yeah. I just I almost go about it from the opposite way. come up with something like, okay, so if we sell it to all the school districts and

042then every legislator is like laughing like there's no way that's going to get through, then we're coming up with something that doesn't make sense, right? Like at least something that has some traction of some if if we go in and we say to the legislators, hey, here's a couple ideas and they go, don't even touch these two here. Like those are like the third rail for you guys. That's not going to work. But hey, this one I think makes sense. At least we know a little bit of a direction. I don't know. And you guys have been through it before. >> I think you're Right. I mean, I think based on the blast experience, uh, James, the, um, legislative, um, staff at school boards were really helped. Like, they really kind of they they have

043a very good finger on what's going to work like on what everybody's thinking. So, in fact, they asked us to tweak some of our language, I think, based on that. >> Yeah. I'm also part of the uh, Morris County um, legislative committee. So um the the director of that committee is going to be having a meeting with Orura Dunn and then uh then we'll have a meeting in September. So I'm hoping that we can try to tackle it from two paths. So two two angles. And I also think it's worthwhile to just um keep an open dialogue with our local legislators, state legislators in a way that's like, hey, here's a challenge we have, right? even if we're not coming and saying we're coming up with a resolution at least because they may hear about

044that and come back to us and say hey this this came up again. Oh my gosh, like this is something I really actually want to try to help out with or you know they may ask us to go back and do some homework or I don't know just it's just a dialogue. It's not a formal hey do you approve this? So, you're going to sponsor, but at least a dialogue cuz they always kind of want to have their finger on the pulse on the challenges that their local municipalities or uh boards of education have. So, just a thought to it's just a conversation, right? It's an open conversation with them. >> Uh Dr. Forte, um forgive me if I missed this, but did you set up the committee meetings uh dates already for September? I

045did not, but I'm thinking it's going to be the 4th of September, which is the Thursday before the meeting. >> Okay. Um, depending on how much I can get um prepared for that meeting, could you maybe allocate some extra time for governance? >> You mean like more than the typical hour? >> Yeah. Well, no, I think um yeah, a full hour should be fine then. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. If there are no other board members that have any comments, then we'll go ahead and proceed with our agenda or continue on with our agenda, which is the second public comment section. Uh, we'll go ahead and open it up at 8:13 p.m. >> Seeing no one in the chambers and no one online, we'll close it at 8:13. And will there be a need for

046a second executive session? >> Okay. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Fantastic. All in favor? >> I. >> Any nays? Absentions? We are now adjourned at 8:13 p.m.

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