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Monroe Twp BOE Buildings, Grounds & Transportation Committee 01.13.26

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2026-01-14
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Middlesex County, NJ
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001Good evening. It's uh Tuesday, January 13, 2026. The time is 5:31 p.m. We are about to have our building grounds transportation committee agenda meeting. President meeting is myself, the chair Pete Piro, uh Carmen Alvarez, Eric Marzine, Gail Depay, and we have Dave Tine from facilities and uh Dr. Adam Wen, our uh acting superintendent. Uh we'll start the meeting off with our first thing. ETA project update. Dave, could you please give us an update on any sites? >> Yes. So, Oak Tree, Mil Lake, and a small building annex, Woodland, and Barkley Brook are all 100% on >> the lighting. >> Oh, perfect. >> Thanks. >> Good. They're actually have two electricians right now working at uh Brookside. They're 50% done. >> Okay. >> And the the high school and fieldhouse are 100% done also. >> Oh,

002wow. All right. Good. Making some progress. >> And uh this morning I just heard from Hannah is uh the company that working on all the boilers at the middle school. >> Okay. and uh Barkley Brook. They uh completed the one boiler today at Barkley Brook, so it's fired up this morning. >> Oh, nice. >> Oh, good. Good. That's a big move. Anything else to report on that? >> No, just the middle should be fired up sometime next week. working in the order um this Monday when school's closed. >> Okay. >> Any anything unexpected happen or everything's progressing relatively timely and on schedule? >> Yeah, everything's going pretty well. >> Good. >> Perfect. Anybody have any questions for you? >> Good. >> I have a question. Okay. >> What's the um expected time frame for the

003for the lighting up? Are we ahead of schedule on schedule? How are we doing? >> I think they said they said roughly around a year a year. We're we're we're right. Okay. >> And the boilers too. What about those? >> Yes. Yes. They're uh they're right on schedule. >> Right. >> I think we're actually ahead on one of the schools because I thought it was projected right. We weren't supposed to get something and then we got >> we got these early chillers were delivered installed in Woodland and >> they run. >> A lot of the variables when it comes to those bigger projects is equipment availability. >> Yeah. The lighting is easily accessible although it's massive in scale. That's why I think that's tackled first. Yes. >> And also takes a while. and then the

004design and acquisition of those bigger boiler whe the boilers and the HVAC units. Those are the things that sometimes we get end up in uh timing. So >> all right let's move on to the Apple rod branch project. Where do we stand? I know we had the student back in Apple school which is great. Uh do we have an update on the project? So the the the project is is uh it's going on second shift now. So right they they received the students back in December 26. >> Okay. >> Uh 22nd. >> Okay. >> Before the break. >> Yep. >> Yeah. And now all all work on the second shift. I'm I'm overseeing it every night. >> Okay. So with the classroom and working order when the teachers plan with them going in at night.

005>> Yeah. Yeah. and they're cleaning up behind her. >> Okay, perfect. >> Is the work mostly at night in the classrooms that wasn't finished before or in other common areas? >> It's it's like a couple couple different areas here and there in the classroom just like you know patching up a hole here or there. >> Um >> is a little paintwork. >> Yeah, but everything's you functioning. So just cosmetic then >> automatically correct. >> But you expect that to finish up >> within about a month and a half and then they're going to start removing the uh old steam boiler but that's in its own >> area and they can pull over to the back of the building and >> you know no one >> just so you know um Eric we have a brand

006new heating and HBAC system for that school because it was I think a 199 or something. >> Yeah. It was a It was the original farmer and I went in the basement to see it like little house in the museum. >> It looked like he had was going to attack you any minute. It was so >> the original >> 1937 I closed and everything's good over there. >> Yes. >> Relative project >> relative to that project. There's always that need to be done and work to be done. the banana roof. The roof was complet. The roofing and the need and along with that was an entire new electrical system. >> That was all related to each other. >> And there's some summer work to be done. The uh the USS which are the underground storage

007tanks, they'll be removed so we don't have to worry about, you know, doing any any of the sampling for that anymore. >> Closed out. >> And that'll be summertime projects as well as removal of the original boiler for the building that'll be taken care of um again doesn't need to be done at this exact moment but it will be done uh when the right time is to do it. I just clarify US underground storage like oil is that or what is that when that exactly? >> That was for Yeah. for the old steam boiler and everything. >> Yes. >> So there's no oil or anything in there that contaminate the area. >> They did all the >> That's right. until you remove them. >> Those are the Department of Education and we had we have

008permits for it, get inspections for that and it's an insurance piece that we have insured. >> Great. >> And as soon as everything is uh buttoned up and we for the summer they can tear up the parking lot and and uh and pull it out. It's behind it's in the section behind the school underground. >> I don't know if you guys have noticed but the middle school trailers are over here. I did tonight because you >> so I draw it like this tonight very quickly. >> Yep. >> About two weeks. >> Very fast. >> Yeah. >> Last night when I was passing passing by, they had two to go. So I was >> two to go. Yeah. They were on the trailer. >> When I came to work this morning, it looked like they were

009getting ready to pull out. >> Nice. >> And I got off work this afternoon, they were gone. So >> yeah, there still is some work to do. Uh some patching in that parking lot. And then uh once that parking lot is uh packed up, it then can be opened up for step parking. >> Yep. >> Great. >> Perfect. That's good to see. All right. Now for uh our draft. Now like to turn it over to Mr. Lennis. We could talk about our full day kindergarten. >> Sure. So uh when it comes to full day, we can talk about two pathways, right? The first pathway is for next year and that's the target. We haven't finalized or announced that that it can actually happen for next year, but pathway one is including old AK uh in

010our existing space as well as in our existing budget. Um and that's what we're working on right now. Um and and what that means is uh for instance at Oakree um we would occupy any rooms at ECE current lake we do the same thing. Um and then we would also uh utilize any other spaces from either reduced sections or and basically squeeze in fit ourselves in there. Um then the other path which is a parallel path is our long-term solution and that's what this represents. Um when we get asked by the legislatures the legislators how much does it cost for full vacay and what's the long-term plan for this? Um there's a staffing cost, right, which is an ongoing piece which we're looking to integrate into the budget, but there's also facilities adjustment, right? A

011change in facilities to to restore our buildings back to where they uh where they were designed to be and and occupied. So at Oak Tree, again, as an example, when you walk in the front, the media center is straight in front of you. Through the years, the growth at elementary school resulted in us taking a section of that and turning into a instructional space. Um, the rooms that flank the media center are the music room on the left and the art room on the right. Those are currently classrooms. In the back of the building, there's a multi-purpose room, just the cafeteria, the gym, and there's a stage. uh a better part of the stage is has been converted to a classroom. So we have multiple spaces in the buildings that are um used by general

012classrooms but are designed for other uses. Um and went through proper protocols. They're all they have their own HVAC units. They're in part they're part of our long range facilities plan. It's all embedded in there. But when we fit full AK in, we will fit it in and not be able to undo those spaces, right? We won't be able to take art and put it back in the art room because we need to keep that as a second grade classroom or first grade classroom. So what this uh study does is takes a look at our facilities the way we currently use it now layers in the projection numbers full day and says here's a project that you can do to restore your building so you have your art rooms your music drums your stages back

013um in the case of Barkley Brookke you can uh optimize your uh full day prek uh special programs you can appropriately re relocate for uh integrated prek programs. Um and then at Middle Lake, we take our ECE program, which is located in the annex, which we wouldn't need anymore, and we can take a look at that space, refresh it, update it, update the HBAC, and they utilize that as an integrated part of um of Mil Lake School. So this draft represents three projects, one at Oak Street, one at Barkley Brook, and one at Mil Lake. That would get us to the point where every classroom teacher has a classroom space that's designed for them, not being in an art room, not in a space in a media center, not in the back of a stage.

014Um, as well as accommodating the needs of full vacay. So, and I'll and I'll this is a draft. We I showed this to each of the three uh building principles. They gave us some feedback. We're going to go back to the architect with some of that feedback. Um and we we're going to bring that back to you guys in February. Um but this is a draft project. Um this gives a starter. It basically is the next step in I said those parallel paths. The goal is [clears throat] to get it in place next year as stand with our current facilities. This is that longer term piece. The cost of all this isn't something we would fit into capital budget. This would be referendum centric. Okay. And in terms of timing and needs and things like

015that, they provided a timeline in this study to uh to do a referendum in November 2026. It's not determined. Doesn't have to be decided this month that we're going to go down that road, but just for the sake of timing, the architect provided, you know, just a timeline to get done. Um, so I'll kind of take you through and again this is draft. When we bring the final version of this study next month, we can put that up online, share with public and things like that. Um, but I just wanted to talk you through so you could understand um the three general focuses of the of each of the projects and then uh you know we can kind of answer the questions based off of that. Um, so the first few pages are really uh

016what we've talked about all along. Um, why are we doing this? I'm >> sorry. I apologize. I thought I'd turn this. >> So, why are we doing this? We're doing this because we're looking and we got the mandate from the state that full day is a necessity. You know, we have to implement full day. Um, so what we're doing is we're looking at how do we make full day AK fit in our building now and then what can we do to make full day uh an optimal scenario. Um they used various data points to come up with the solutions in here. Um everything from what's our current enrollment, what is the projected enrollment going to look like? Um how do we currently use our buildings? As I said, some of the spaces are not traditionally

017used the way they were designed for. Like an art room is now a general classroom. Um so they took that into account. um one of the focuses as we kind of look through one of the focuses was um a cost-effective approach at solving this solution. So looking at where in the building or what part of the building would be the best location to add a wing to or add classrooms to. So they took a very uh economical approach to this. Um and additionally and I'll give oak tree as an example. low tree. Many of the many of the classrooms have bathrooms into it. So when you build a classroom, it's less expensive to build a classroom that doesn't have a bathroom. Um so when in a say in the example of Oak Tree, if we

018were to keep kindergarten in the main building and build classrooms that didn't have bathrooms, >> first, second, and third grade don't require that, right? So we could move another grade to the addition and keep kindergarten in with the classrooms that already have bathroom. So that's a cost effective approach instead of just building a kindergarten classrooms which tend to run a little bit more expensive. So if we click through um there's a sample of our uh projected enrollment in terms of kindergarten um and that drove how classrooms would potentially be which then again drove the overall layout of the building. Um the next page identifies we currently in each of the schools utilize three classrooms for our half day kindergarten program between AM and PM. Um they determined that there was five class in Barkley Brook,

019six classrooms in the oak tree and five in Mil Lake. So that was kind of the starting point for them to say we're going to fit five full AK classroom in here now. I'll take a clean look at the building and how do we restructure? How do we take a look? >> Can I just um just so the know that's um projecting with 21 students per class. >> Yep. And the 21 originates from uh that's the DOE standard. Yes. >> For under standard. >> Just Yeah. Yep. Um, and again, our numbers, they don't equate to 0.1 when you do the math relative toolment is, but that's, you know, how many students fit in a square foot area and what's governed by the the state. So, um, we would have ample space as uh as determined.

020So, the first set of projects um is Barkley is a tree rather. So uh the project itself is in the upper leftand corner of the design and they presented for each of the projects presented two options um and they're basically the same location and the same structure with the exception of one of the classrooms is a small group instruction room which is twothirds the size of a regular classroom and in the in the other example it's a full-size classroom. So, our recommendation right off the bat would be let's just build a full-size classroom. >> Optionally, >> because you can always use a full-size classroom as a small group instruction room. You can't put a full-size class in a small group room. Um, so it would give us the flexibility uh in terms of space. It's

021it's a difference of about 300 ft in size of the project. So that room is 300 square feet larger which is the difference between a fullsize classroom and a smaller classroom. So in terms of the feedback we're getting the architect is this cla the classroom in the top right would be a uh full just design it as a full-size classroom which is option one second page it's basically twothirds of a classroom. Um, and again, they get a sample layout of where first, second, and third grade would land and where the kindergarten rooms are. Um, it's the discretion. It could be an upgrade out in the new edition. It doesn't matter. They just, uh, put placeholders there and they identify the rooms in the building that have the precise toilets for kindergarten and the rooms that

022have, you know, toilets embedded in the way they need to be. So, this uh, the second project is Bart Brook. So Barkley Brook, their construction project is on the right hand side of the page about halfway up. And just like in Oak Tree, the first example has uh the six classrooms as full-size classrooms. The second example has one of the classrooms as a small group instruction rooms. The difference about 400 square feet and our feedback with the architect is a full-size classroom provides us the ability to put an a small group of SGI in there. Um, but if we don't have a full-size classroom, then uh we lose that flexibility. So our our recommendation would be to consider uh a project that would have a full-size classroom instead of that SGI that provides us the

023flexibility. And then the other unique piece about the Bark project and you'll see um there is a an overlay of their property. So underneath where previous trailer project which the TCU's temporary classroom unit um we had uh basically a waiver or we had permission to put a temporary structure on top of a major sewer line. Um which is fine. It's under you know it's buried under the ground. Um but in the sake of this project constructing a permanent structure um the variance uh would be something that we'd be able to get. So part of this project involves the relocation of a sewer line. So that's a little different than Oak Tree where Oak Tree um you know the the pro the project itself fits around any water lines and stuff that's already existing. And the

024last project like I said is uh the milligans. For the milled annex, majority of this would be completely empty, but we would our ECB students would become full day K students. And with full day K, um this space would be updated and refreshed basically to add uh everything from a simple bubbler in classroom um changing some of the toilet sizes. They would uh add some bathrooms in the hallway. Right now, all the bathrooms are in the classrooms. So, they would add student bathrooms in the hallway. Um, there would be a there's already a security vestibule like a window there. Um, we probably relocate it uh on the same wall just kind of make it a little further over. Um, the largest recommendation in the majority of the project u for the annex would be the

025upgrading of the HVAC uh in the building. So, it has unit ventilators which is very common in almost all of the buildings. Um, and that's the heat and it has uh units, single units uh for their air conditioning. The recommendation is since we're in here to add a comprehensive uh HVAC piece and that would involve uh you know new rooftop units and things like that and that would take care of this for years and years and years to come. So the project itself is a refated HBAC system and that's the majority of the costs. Um some of the other things um you know we look at this being a separate building from uh Mil Lake [clears throat] um you know internally we talked about I mean obviously there's security presence there um it shares resources

026with Mil Lake so in reality most likely we would have um our prek programs there prek doesn't travel in and out of the building as much as kindergarten would. Kindergarten would come in for lunch then come back or come in for uh really the arts of specials and come back if we kept kindergarten in the building prek we can bring the specials to them we can bring their services to them um so where some feedback to the architect is and it doesn't change recommendations here it just uh would change kind of how we how we you speak to this yeah this would be a prek our full day program there our integrated program would operate out of this we could actually have a space in here where their OTP and speech operate out of it's

027a it would be a nice uh space for them to to operate out of and again pay would end up in the building really displacing and moving some of these space that they already occupied. Um so that's kind of the the general thoughts. Again, we'll have the architect here next month to go through uh you know some of the nuts and bolts of what this looks like. Again, this is a draft. Um >> and I'd like to have it like a a meeting, maybe a public session where we could present all this. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I would definitely do that. Um what do we do that in February with the final product right when everything's adjusted in February we know that air can see what's going on. Now something else to think about um

028is as we engage in these projects um like Nolan specifically the EIP the energy stability improvement plan um for in terms of priorities what's being engaged in uh there is still needs in the main building of the lake for roof work and HVAC work. So, if we were to look at a project, I would I would recommend, you know, we're doing some work in the NX, right? The new HVAC and and things like that. Um, I would also recommend taking a look at some of those projects as well because again, that that's directly related to kindergarten, especially if we're going to house the majority of the kindergarten in the building. and uh it would be an opportunity to really uh address some of our needs that we, you know, weren't able to fit into the

029ESA project yet and uh but are still on radar, right? And they're they're projects that don't typically fit in a capital budget either. So that's kind of where we landed here. Um just for the public's sake, the total amount of the projects is a little over $20 million. Um, and it ranges again depending on the the mille piece is the smallest piece because it's a refresh and the majority of the refresh is HVC related. And then the Barkley Brook and Oak Tree piece are very similar in price. Um, they both have a very similar size addition, but the site work at Barkley Brook is a lot different than the site work at Oak Tree. Again, this is a design, so there is no uh, you know, exact measurement of how far out the building is.

030And you know that is what we would do if if slash when in the future we decide to take this to the next step. They take these plans and expand on they'll get uh you know if something we do uh encroaches a little bit on a playground part of what's built into these estimates is what do we do to address you know the current conditions of the building. And you'll see um as part of the estimate it is um construction modifications to existing. Right? So there is a an allowance in there if there's anything that needs to be done to either reset the building andor adjust some of the things that you know we would at least do that. So um this is a beginning of a discussion. There is no decision that needs to

031be made in terms of our timeline. Um, but this is a step and we'll have, like I said, we'll have the final draft for next month. But this is a step in getting answers to a question we get very often from the public andor legislators or when we want to want to advocate, how much is it going to cost us >> construction wise, we now have the foundation of that and we'll have a final version in February. Good question. >> So, this looks all well and good, but like you said, it's dependent on a referendum passing and historically Monroe doesn't >> necessarily pass all our referendums. Um, so you mentioned starting the full day kindergarten next year and put kids in on the stage and >> we already have them on the stage. We're already

032we're already teachers, displaced teachers. I I used to be a music teacher. I hated being a card. But so all that being said, what's to say like how would you sell it to a taxpayer saying saying, you know, with referendum saying, well, you know, we we need this, but we're already doing it the full day kindergarten. Like how can you say that we need this if it's like it's mandatory? Like you how would you sell that if if we're already doing it? Especially because a lot of the tax payers probably don't have uh it's it's one year, you know, kindergarten is one year. It's and a lot I I can't speak for people, but you know, maybe they don't necessarily care that much about that and they care about the almighty dollar. >> Yep. Yeah.

033And I think that's part of the discussion as we refine what else is in here and what else gets addressed through this project. you know, if we're looking at um you know, basically fitting the kindergarten in existing structure, you know, what else is impacted in terms of fitting our kindergarten in the existing structure? You know, are we uh we already have what I described we already have existing? We already have the music and art um in other locations, right? Either working out of the back of the stage in a classroom. Um, so it would be undoing some of those long-term things that we put in place uh and restoring our buildings back to where we, you know, where we have our optimal operating conditions. So, >> and I also think that a referendum for $20

034million is not like going for a referendum for $200 million to build a a new high school. And I think that, you know, the we've heard a lot from parents that, you know, they're they want this, they want this, they want this. And honestly, if we're going to go forward with this, uh, we want breakdowns from accounting and tax, like it'll tell you on the average household exactly, you know, how much the increase would be per year. And it's over the money's bonded over a long period of time. So, I mean, it's it's really what we need. And what I see here is that if you take boat tree and they already have art and music on parts and everything else and are using stage like if we do six classrooms I believe this will

035also free up them to get their classrooms back. So on an educational standpoint and I'm not an educator but I believe that this is like the right way to do it. >> Yeah. Like I so questions. So when we um when you are coming up with the like the plan for kindergarten like this is just like one part of it right. So, so, so this is like the parallel part, right? What we're looking to do next year is different. You know, it's uh it's looking at our current utilization when you have like right now uh for mil for example, all of that annex is for our so if we do full day, we now have five classrooms boom right there that are ready to accept our students. So, it's really a wash. They have plenty

036of room. um space-wise because we're basically taking away those classrooms for half day PC and we just put our full day in there or move the prek out and put full day in the building. Um so there there are some plug and play pieces. What we're working on for next year is uh integrating any potential costs into the budget andor covering it with our additional state aid on one time state aid we got like can we buy our books, tables, additional chairs, whatever we need I guess. Well, the teachers is what we're looking to integrate into um or are we seeing retirements or reduction in sections and things like that that would a teacher then just transfer to a you know to another position or whatever. So, and that's kind of that's we're in the

037throws of doing right now and that's totally separate from this project. Okay. >> Yeah. I guess I'm just thinking like so how would you incorporate the buses because I guess like the AM kids get uh >> dropped off and then picked up and the PM one when the PM kids arrive. So you have to double the bus routes with that or >> So we we ran uh I had transportation as part of budgeting process. So and and this we went through the budgeting process with let's go through it as if the days in place. We pull anything out anything full related out of it if we need to but let's run through with it. So um transportation the costs are a wash because what we end up doing is pay for essentially a a midday

038run. those midday runs and that the cost operate those midday runs just merges into morning and afternoon runs. So, it's essentially a wash um expense-wise for the transportation department because we're not doing that extra paying the staff for that extra time in the middle of the day. Now, they're just working at the beginning, the end of the day. >> Got it. >> Yep. >> Can I ask on the one here? It says bubbler. Can you What is it? >> Water. >> Oh, water. Oh gosh. >> And it's usually like a mini sink with a water gun on it and that's what they they have sinks in place when they're ready. This would go >> they can refill anything. >> Well, this would at Buffalo or, you know, whatever. Again, it's not specked out yet. We

039could, you know, fill station probably in the hallways and then in classrooms they usually have they have the big, you know, gooseseneck faucet and then a bubbler next to it. >> All right. Thank you. I just >> go ahead. You can go first. So then my final question hopefully is uh so I know we were like um advocating the legislation about um saying we we can't afford full day kindergarten. How how do you how do we justify that we can't afford full day kindergarten if we're going to have full day kindergarten next year? >> Well, so we've been advocating for funding to support full day pay, right? So they gave us an extra half a million dollars and that half a million dollars is going towards uh capital improvements related to uh the imple implementation

040of full day pay. So some of these areas and and again some of that we could update some of these spaces that are in here already. Um half a million dollars is we're very far when it comes to some of the capital projects. Um and then also you know if if we can use it towards curriculum materials uh onetime expenditures or uh do we need slightly smaller chairs and that kind of stuff that's what we uh that's what we'll use that additional money for in lie of fitting it into our operating budget. So that's what our advocacy comes from. You know we're maintaining what we have every year. So, if we're looking to integrate something new, this additional money that we got this year helps us pick up that new basically one-time new expenditures. And

041our goal is to integrate some of those reoccurring teacher costs um into our operating budget through whether it's attrition or, you know, someone retires and we we use that spot to pick up a kindergarten section if we don't need that spot, you know, from where they retire from, etc. >> Yeah. I just have a hard time like believing that the state's going to be like, "Well, you you know, you're they already have it. Why should we give you more money when and they we already have a hard time getting money from them to begin with?" >> So, when it comes to a a project like this, the state would never I wouldn't think the state wouldn't come in and just give us $20 million to build this, >> right? So, what the state does is

042any construction project they they work through with us and they give it's always up to 40% of the project and they look at enrollment and things like that. Our experience is it's never touched 40% of the project. Um there's always reasons why they'll limit and you know cap it out. But I would expect some state aid related to a construction project to be integrated into this. Again that's mathematically calculated based on uh square footage and how many kids we have districtwide analysis of you know uh enrollment student density and things like that. But um in terms of special funding to fund this project, we will continue to guarantee for it. But I wouldn't expect just like we didn't you know state we always advocate for it but the reality is you know we don't expect

043it and anticipate it until we see it. >> Is there like a backup plan if for some reason we start the kindergarten next year and then this referendum fails? Yeah, I mean we will continue to operate with it as it exists next year. Um this project would take a few years. You know, if we if we did something for this November, we're looking probably 2029. The Mille project's totally different, right? That's a refresh. That's a much quicker, short project, right? Um but the other ones were probably a few years down the road, couple years down the road. Um so we'd be looking at operating that way regardless. Yep. >> And the way we'd like to put it out there is that, you know, we're we're crammed down with what we have and it benefits us

044if we did this that now we free up, like I said, we put art in a class again, music in a class again. >> Sure. >> They they could use the the the areas that right now are are being used. And if we get a little bit of a enrollment growth at least now we'll know we'll have classrooms to >> that's my that's kind of one of my concerns is if let's say worst case scenario referendum fails we have all these extra kids and then we have an enrollment growth and we need space in the high school >> which is very a realistic scenario. Yeah, we have our demographic report that shows pretty stable enrollment coming through the middle school right now. We have a few grades that are between 150 students less than they

045were in previous years and we've been adjusting enrollment and staffing there. So once they begin to hit here, I would expect to see >> uh you know whether it's stabilization, if we have additional students coming from other locations, but um within the next 5 years or so, you know, in that demographic report, it says keep an eye on some of the construction in, you know, Route 33 and in that area uh for, you know, long-term projects, but there's no anticipated mass influx in the next few few years. And uh you know this again this is one piece of a puzzle. You know if you wanted to say hey maybe we should take a look at something else that would better prepare us and maybe attach or add it on there. We could certainly have that

046discussion. You know um you know if we saw red flags about massive influx at the high school. Um we could take a look and we have a bunch of projects already designed six classrooms in the back of the core building. uh a gym uh in addition to the gym in the locker room area in the back quarter quadrant over there. So the nice thing about having some projects kind of in our back pocket is instead of waiting to start from scratch, we have some starting points for needs and it gives us the ability to really kind of rock and roll when uh when they when they come up. Um the biggest delay really comes from um many of these projects require funding outside of what school can put in their operating budget. So it would

047it's this gearing up for a big question or something. But yeah, as we say right now, we're not talking about gearing up for a question right now. We're >> finish this report. >> Yeah, we're going to be get some information. I think it's best to offer the public and once we figure out then >> that I was going to be my comment before started up like you know cuz he had said something that well if you know it's only one year that I have to worry about my child being kindergarten >> but if we tack on something maybe at the high school that the community has been asking for for a while let's say bleachers right more bleachers or something along those lines maybe more people would buy in that's something we could discuss >>

048it's a discussion for for the board and something we can certainly you know pull together but with regard to kindergarten this has been huge asks um you know it's a big question um and now right to answer question how much is it going to cost if you need to make addition to accommodate full day long term right >> and we have those answers whether it's a legislator asking or whatever um and then we can decide how to move on from there so I think it's good And like I said, this is a draft version, which is why um you know, I have a bunch of things that we're going to go back to him and kind of have him change uh you know, some of the wordings and stuff, but the the uh this is

049a big big project to kind of get information out, trying to move in the right direction. Yes. You know, >> it's another tool in the tool box, right? figure out what what the community needs and the best way to, you know, not go crazy with it, but also to make it feasible for the kids in school. I mean, that's the the reason we're all here. So, um, any other building grounds things? Dave, anything else you >> So, I can give you an update on Sure. So, >> so the the big uh update really originates on the bus tracking app is what we call it. Um so before break uh we had been training the staff that were going to be involved as well as we did a few drives on the buses with the equipment.

050Okay. >> Um and since we got back from break uh we began the implementation of that. So we're really on day two. So in terms of feedback, we don't have feedback yet because we literally just finished day two of of trying it out andor kind of working through those first couple day bugs. So I would expect an update related to that uh next month. Okay. >> Because we'll have a you know a solid month worth of trial and and feedback. >> How are we doing with drivers? Are we uh >> So there should be two drivers on the agenda this month. >> So uh which is a nice piece. Two new drivers. >> Yep. Yep. And uh we're continuing to work with both our staff who are interested in becoming drivers and uh you know

051we're recruiting drivers as well. So um we're we're making progress and I think it's that's going to be like right the bike. We're always going to be working and looking and uh you know it was a problem like nationally with drivers. It's not about Oklahoma. It's it's everywhere. Everybody's having the same problem. So >> can't. >> So that's our anybody have any questions? Question now. >> Same for next any anything >> discussion after the board anymore when we do our committee reports. >> Yeah. Okay. I guess that will be the conclusion of our meeting. Thank you.

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