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Monroe Twp BOE Legislative Advocacy Community Engagement Committee 10.08.25

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2025-10-09
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Middlesex County, NJ
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001Good evening everybody. This is our legislative advocacy community engagement meeting for October. Um we're going to jump right into our agenda. We have a pretty packed agenda for tonight. Um so the first item on our agenda was a review of the materials from the September legislative committee meeting from school boards. Um I did share this as a public document so anybody who wants to see what was discussed at these meetings is able to see it. Um there wasn't a lot of new stuff because the legislator legislators have been on break over the summer. Um there had been a discussion on the early childhood legislation. Um and then um you know one of the things that they were discussing was the IEP guidelines um about providing with for parents um at least two business days beforehand

002um information before their meeting so that they're going in um aware of what's going to be discussed. Um there were two uh legislators there. I can look up their names, but um you know they sort of shared their positions. Um and uh you know definitely you know there's always that discussion about funding which you know is a never- ending thing. Um, you know, I'm sensing a lot of frustration from other districts as well, like legislative districts about how there's a lot of discussion of funding concerns, but you know, not a lot of action. Like there's a lot of proposals like if you look on this legis bill search on the legislative website. Um, so those were sort of the the topics there. Um if did anyone see anything on those that like they felt is

003worth looking into a little bit deeper? If not, we can sort of just sort of move past that. Um they also did say there'll be a legislative panel at workshop. So um I forget exactly who's going to be up there, but if there's some question and answer period, so if there's any people who want to speak or ask questions, that's a good session to go to. Um, yeah. All right. So, I'm going to move over move on just because we do have a fair amount to discuss if there's nothing else from there. Um, so the next thing is the finalizing the draft of an ad the district advocacy calendar. Um, so this is something that we had discussed last month, sort of just making sure we are knowing when we're supposed to do things as

004a as a board and as a district in terms of advocacy because I feel like a lot of times and I think Miss Merald, you sort of mentioned at the last meeting whether it's the dates just become announce which is something we really can't control like when they had the Department of Education hearings all of a sudden last year um but when they have like the budget hearing things where we sort of know generally when they're going to come out and when it's going to be announced um being prepared in advance as a board in order to take action. So I had shared this um as an executive attachment for us right now and I figured once we finalize it then we can share that um with the public. Um so I can just read

005through it really quick and if you have any feedback let me know. Um, so I said for January and February, it's reviewing the governor's state of the state address and proposed budget, meeting with our legislators to share the priorities for the upcoming year and revising the district advocacy letter based on our budgetary needs. U because I know that's when the administration will start doing their their budget hearings and things of that, the defense rounds. Um, is there anything else you feel like needs to go in that section? Okay. Um, so then March is registering to testify at the budget hearings. um sharing the advocacy letter with the community and parents and asking them to reach out to legislators and then inviting legislators for our to to the schools which is something I feel like we've

006done but maybe we can do more whether it's board meetings or school events. Um I don't know do we invite legislators to come for school events at all? Many times they offer to come on their own. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, uh either just did or recently. >> Last year they did. >> Oh, but I think it was this school year we had uh something D'Angelo speaking to one of our AP classes. >> Oh, okay. So, >> yeah. Now, in keeping in mind when they come, they hear of academic business, right? So, you know, we're very very clear when we do invite them to come in for those purposes that, you know, we want them know we're not going to pull you in and decide like, "Hey, where's our money?" But uh as much

007as you'd like to um you know when they come in that capacity they're there for the students and the students only and the teachers um and they've been very generous and willing to come out and speak with our kids. So that has happened um >> okay >> generally and and pretty much all the time that's facilitating mistrust and uh as our social studies supervisor and then the principles. >> Okay. >> But um you know that is something that we've done and we are very appreciative when that happens. All right. Um, and I know we had them here, I think it was last July. I >> I would love it if, you know, we didn't do it this year, but if we can, even if it's not all of our legislators, or if they're not all

008here at the same time, having them come and speak with us about our district needs from a board perspective in addition to, like you said, them getting to really see like what's happening in the schools, which isn't really something that we would be a part of, um, I think is important. you know, I think there were certain things that they learned last year that they may not have known and that can, you know, that can happen. So, um, whether it's in the spring or some other point during the year, I think that's always good. Um, so then April, I said continue advocacy on budget priorities, follow up with the legislators. I felt like this is something that we need to do better um, coordinating with neighboring districts um, to on shared legislative acts. So, we've

009talked about this with funding especially a lot, but I think there's other things that we can, you know, network with um whether it's through schoolboard association or just our own research um to see where we can sort of we have aligned interest to help us advocate um with you know there's a strength and numbers thing there. And then the other thing for April which this came not from me but like a sample advocacy is apparently it's student advocacy month in April. So sort of just sharing from a student perspective how someone can advocate whether it like not necessarily for our district for funding but just advocacy in general um that the school boards has that school board's connection. Can we advocate for ourselves on that as schoolboard members and see what other districts will answer

010us? >> Yes. So >> that's one way we could do it through NJSBA. >> Right. So like the message board, right? Yeah. And saying like we are struggling with this. Is there any other district struggling with the same thing >> and how are you handling it? Right. Yeah. I think that would be good. I would read them every every so often and there are some good answers from districts around. So >> yeah. >> Okay. >> Um May and June track legislative movement on the budget and monitor the final budget negotiations. Um then there was a launch advocacy action alerts um which Mr. Raldo I feel like you sort of kind of did this past year um and maybe before uh email and social media for urgent calls. So if there's something we need help with

011from the community um and then thanking our legislators that are supporting us um which you know because it's right around that time where we've got additional money we find out. Um, and then July, August, it's, you know, a little bit calmer. So, sort of reviewing all the bills that were signed into law over the last session and then scheduling informal summer chats with legislators because they're not as busy during that time and really neither are we. Um, then September, October, it mentions creating a back to school night advocacy newsletter. even if it's not like a full newsletter, I feel like maybe for back to school next sort of sharing with parents like I guess what we're doing for advocacy what how they can help um and providing that to them because a lot of parents

012like I wasn't really aware when I was a first grade second grade parent of the funding side of these things right I mean not that everyone has to be like as deep into it as we are board members but just for their own knowledge >> I also wonder when it's when can we start thinking about or if you think it's even appropriate leveraging parent groups in the community. You know, I know that the MEF is up and running again. Uh seems like they're they're back in swing of things with significant response to what their efforts have been. It's a powerful block. I know that they've recently constructed pretty hefty database. >> Um now that we have a clear vision, um we have a website that people can go to pull resources from like we mentioned

013last meeting. Um it'd be great to now start indoctrinating some of these wellorganized parent groups to help us with these ads. Yeah. >> Right. So maybe like sort of a meeting with reps from there and then maybe >> how do we operationalize that? >> Um and sort of sharing that's that yeah like that >> and not just all the clubs and and parent groups and things like >> right because they're benefits from whatever we end up getting. >> I think I think may not agree on much but I think we all can agree on that. You need more money. >> Yeah. I like it. Um, meeting with local civics groups or senior centers to build support. Um, I think we sort of do that when like we've done it when there was the referendum and

014things like that, but I I wonder if we could do it with like a less urgent response, more like general sense of like what they can possibly do to help during the year. We're doing Monroe News now. So like they're getting information about the school district, but I you know I wonder if it's worth reaching out to some of these groups about helping our advocacy efforts as well. Sort of similar to what you just said at the parent groups like some of the groups that aren't that is great to celebrate but it's tough to very actionable because it's because it's quarterly. Um, I know they have uh the local community has digital newsletter, but anything I think leveraging the local community, the leveling >> leveraging the municipality is always going to help us because they

015they just have farther outreach. >> And even the senior center, I told you how many times they have a great website >> and uh they contact quite a few people. >> Yeah. >> I think the last time we went to the meeting, they had 900 people sign up in like one or two months that came into the town. So, I mean, there are new people that you can get after and you don't know what walks of life they've come from that can help you, but even um there was somebody, my neighbor is a writer for the Rossmore News and I sent an email to Zach >> and she wants to take specific issues in the school district that might be helping the Rossmore people and I think the newsletter is put all through one place,

016isn't it? All of them go through that. So it used to be like the Princeton I think it recently just changed including more of a senior but it's not the senior. >> No, but they yeah they include a lot. They're all printed from the one source >> and um she was very nice to tell me that she was a former journalist and that whatever Mr. morale though or any of us could give her, she would put that in there because she thinks that all people, all seniors should be more informed about the district, what's going on in the district, >> right? You know, one thing I I know other towns have, we don't, which I I wish we did, is like they have like the patch like I know East Brunswick had things where there's

017it's almost like that online newspaper for the town. And you know, I've seen things about the board of education for East Brunswick, let's say. >> We used to have something that came out like every week, >> right? >> Great press used to cover us. >> Well, that quarterly one quarterly >> maybe. >> Yeah. There was more like that came out. They used to cover like sports, but like they were the games were like two weeks old by the time. >> Yeah. Oh, like the whole news. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Two weeks ago. >> Bonro news has given us uh has graciously awarded us two full pages. >> Oh, that's great. We keep it in the last edition. I think it saw that in June, right? Last edition. >> Yeah. So, that one just dropped

018uh I think a couple days ago. >> Yeah. >> And um that is their I was informed that that is their last publication for the year. >> So, and so my guess is that they'll probably around January, February for their next one. >> Okay. But there's no like past type news like online news presence that you know of for our town, right? Like >> uh I feel like if there was, we would there might be something I don't think that we can start it >> in your free time. I don't know if they just >> I'm just saying is it something that can be put together? I mean, it sounds like a great idea. >> Well, I like the idea of just maybe taking all the work we're already doing and combining it. So, we

019have we can get assists from Rossmore and then we've got news. >> We have a journalism class here. And if you've noticed the last the last three articles that we published Yeah. two were by a student, one was by a teacher >> in the moderate news >> and maybe invite Carol to come to speak to you during >> Yeah. So so >> get the seniors more involved in some of your classes that they've been out in the retired from. >> Absolutely. And and uh I don't think we would never have an issue providing content, right? It's just based in access, >> right? Yeah. I think we we there's nothing that says we can't do anything. I think the other thing though is when it comes to that like for advocacy we do walk a tough

020line between what our posit what our role is as a school. Now obviously as a as a board of education and as as a administrative team advocacy is a big part of our job. >> We just want to be probably be a little careful when we get the teachers and the students involved in those. So but you know obviously we we keep those things in mind. >> Right. You're pretty good at that. You both are very good. don't want to be accused of anything. >> Yeah. No. No. And we don't want to put you in that position, but you both of you are very good at advocating for the district and for yourselves and what's necessary to be put in places. >> I did see actually I think it was Dan Harris. I think it

021was Woodbridge where they had a like a monthly column for the community from like the board of education president for things like that um in their like community um newsletters. So for our town, because we're a different makeup, I wonder if >> you know when you speak to parole, I think you said, or speak someone from the the newsletters, >> how this works on our newspaper. Yes. >> Because they're sort of all associated, I think it's fine for us to share multiple things of which advocacy is, you know, one of the things we can highlight um when it's an appropriate time during the year. Um, but just sort of like a monthly update kind of from the board with like facts like or even just link for to find out how you can help advocate

022for our school district. Go here. That's what she want. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's what Carol wanted when she called me and I referred her to Mr. Miranda because he would have more accurate facts, right? >> Because she said when she was a journalist, right? >> And Linda Bazowski and her best friends. So, Linda was very precise in what she uh published and I know Carol is too. So, I referred her to Mr. Moral actually mentioned the Appleguard uh building which I think a lot of people drive by here and most of the seniors would like to know you know what's going on because they don't >> you know so and then like you said ad advocacy at a certain time of year I think that would be great for all of it. >> I mean

023I would love to see it in my newspapers. >> Yeah. >> All right. I think that that's a terrific lead. Thank you. >> And then um just the last part of it um is November and December um sort of what we're talking about submitting district funding priorities to the legislators in ahead of the budget cycle. um thanking everybody for their support and then also resolutions um which we you know they have the the resolution the delegate assembly twice a year but sort of just talking about what possible resolutions as a board if we wanted to put together for that or if we wanted to do resolutions for our legislators um talking about possible things for that. >> Anything else you guys feel like needs to be on there? Anything that's missing? All right. >> Okay.

024has to build up, >> right? Well, we're not even there. There's more. I know. >> Um, I think I want to skip over, if that's okay, to the the calendar and the website because I know we sort of said we were going to share that. Um, and then if we have time, we could come back to the advocacy letter, but I feel like we went pretty in depth with that the last meeting, so I'm okay if you want to skip that. >> Yeah, sure. I mean, it's it's very simple. Um, so every individual school website has a calendar, right? And there's a district calendar as well. But but what what uh committee had asked last time is how is there a way for a parent to to query their their calendar to make sure that

025they're getting the information they want and not overloading their their their >> um so on each website there's a downloadable file that if you click on it will integrate with your calendar system whatever you're using. Now, this is where I'm gonna stop because I don't know, again, I barely can use my own, >> but uh it's set up in a way so the user can decide which calendars are displayed on their phone at the given time, much like if you share a phone like iCloud with your family members. I don't need to see my wife's work schedule, they won't she see mine, but I do like to know what we have to bring our kids at four o'clock. So, you can toggle no league, high school, apple, or middle school on within your phone um

026if you'd like. if you've got kids in multiple buildings or you could just um download one one calendar you'd like. We could download all of them. What I would advise parents to do and then what we would do next time is have parent back to school explain this is that parents should download the calendars they want and then within their iOS settings or Android settings they can activate those specific school calendars within their phone. That said, and I think I know what you're gonna ask. You're still at the mercy of maybe not what the district enters into that calendar and you know it there's calendars are subject to change in real time and that that that can be problematic to where something's entered in September like for a 6:30 start and then the principal sends

027out an update. Hey, we're moving it to send now. This doesn't happen very often. Sometimes that may not push in real time. So, it was advised to work. >> Yes. >> Yeah. I wonder if there's a calendar that shows the end of the marking period for each school. Um because it seems like, you know, I I never know when it is unless I ask the teacher. You know, I get an email from the teacher telling me when the marking period ends. >> I feel like it's somewhere on the district website. It's not obvious to me where it was where it is. I mean, I'd love it if it was on the main calendar, right? >> But I know that each school has different marking periods. So, >> is there a way that we can get

028it like more easily accessible? >> I think we can touch base. I think that would be appropriate for the building based calendar because we have a trimester >> in the primary grade. >> Yes. >> We have marking periods at the elementary level >> and we have marking periods at the middle and high school. Yes. >> So the dates are slightly adjusted based on AV days and >> adjusting the AV day piece. >> It doesn't come into play at the elementary level. Right. And then at the primary level again we're in trimester. So it would be appropriate in terms of its location to be on a building based piece. So that way if you were in LA, you download the mele calendar, you have the events, but you also have the computer piece. If it's a

029middle school, the middle school piece would sync up with whatever their mark period piece is. >> Generally, generally the middle school and high school are pretty close, if not the same. >> Pretty close. >> District website like could I go someplace? Okay. Oh, so something that you actually have to ask your teacher or >> Yeah, I'm not aware that it's it's not on the district calendar. Um that's on the home like on the the calendar page. Um >> we have some of the general, you know, this is the general testing window and things like that. >> You know, it nice to have it on back to school night for each building because each building, you know, has its own back to night. You know, it would be nice to have. It is also something that's

030subject to change based on if we have a >> snow day or some other cancellation everything yeah kind of ripple effects and um it is another dynamic piece which is probably why it's published in our school calendar and things like that because there's usually a delay in updating that as opposed to a real time >> maybe just have it posted with an >> aster when I when I taught in Raleigh they had the dates and granted we would have to list it like K to 6 7 or K to 5 to 12. Um, now if middle school and high school are different, then maybe we're getting into too much difference. But, you know, just sort of like a little box on the calendar like marking period one ends this day, this day, and then like

031you sort of said with like an asterric, you know, subject to change based on weather just because I know I've seen in the parent groups all the time like what day is the marking period ended? Where can I find this? and like you know I know for me as a high school parent I was able to log into my daughter's schooly go to the counseling page look at their working period one newsletter and find that's a lot >> a lot of people like announce it but I I what I could do is uh when I I send out every week I send out like I ask the principal secretaries for like content for social media >> um I could ask how feasible to just put an approximate you know tenative end of marking period trimester

032gate on their local calendars so that at least you could have a reference plan. I think but I think that that's I don't think that that's >> I mean they are what they are right now. They change when there's an adjustment to the calendar for unforeseen unforeseen circumstances. So >> right I guess what's good with that it being on like the living calendar is if it changes it it can be updated as opposed to like people are printing out that annual calendar where we can make those changes but it's it's harder to do. Um I think just to my other question when you mentioned the toggling because like I had gone in and put the district calendar on there for myself and then like I had done the millet calendar. Um but for me it

033wasn't toggling. I had to go on to like each school's homepage and then download each file. >> You have to do this. So you'd have to go for your sake you'd have to go Mille I guess one right or Mil >> and you would have to add those manually. So, so right now and and it even kind of lends itself to like the district calendar itself when you go on the district website like if I'm on the homepage right now >> and I see like tomorrow it's you have the Mil Lake Week of Respect >> right >> you have the marching band competition but um if you were to go on to you know that's a safe bet for like big picture items in the district but if you were to go on to the

034individual schools websites you may find a little bit more specific specific information and I would advice users to have both anything but >> and there's no way with like the new website I think we actually s sort of talked about this last year where it's all on that one calendar but then people sort of what you had said can't opt into certain things they have to go to each place it we we talked about how that might look at like a user interface and like for example I'm looking right now and >> I could have an entire day dedicated to Wednesday October 15th >> and probably stream all the way down the page. So, it does get >> cluttered. >> Um, I don't think we figured out exactly what would warrant to be pushed to

035the district calendar because certain elements still are and certain elements aren't, >> but I think that that's something we could talk about maybe at a at a leadership team meeting, collect feedback from the principles on what they're hearing from staff and their parents to see if there's any way we can tighten up maybe the way that the dates are presented. But for now, I would advise just stay local on your your your school websites because I know those secretaries are very active in making sure those calendars are up. >> The other thing was at Linux, they have their own calendar. >> That's why a conference. >> Okay. >> Um and uh so and then I want to speak for Mr. Barenda, but my understanding is that each conference has an agreement of what they're going

036to be using for their schedule. Mhm. >> And you know, just like we thought for film exchange, >> uh, and we're kind of subject to that, but that, uh, that link is readily accessible on an in high school. >> Okay. Um, >> and those do change regular those. >> Yeah. All right. So, any other questions regarding website? Um, Gail, did you want to give a recap from the September school boards meeting? Because I was online, but I know you were there in person for Middle Sex County. on my notes. Um um yeah, well, we had two lawyers that evening and one from Bush and Bush and one from the um attorney group for South Planefield and they spoke about um Oh gosh, she's got one stuff. Oh, there was the cell phone bill policy. >>

037Public notice um >> right >> the uh >> public notices I think was one >> um one was on um parental conduct at um sporting events was another one and I asked Mr. Barika in curriculum tonight. If we had that form given to all the parents because they had said that evening that it NJSIA came to the sporting event and that form the parent signed um for consent spectator conduct. That's what it was. Uh it wasn't there. They could actually stop the event right where we forfeit. So, I wanted to make sure that we had it because I didn't want to Somebody had asked that night about what if you don't have like some schools are not in their home schools now and then some schools run uh cross country like through the streets or

038through parks. Does that qualify you if you're you're cross country run? And they said yes, that cross country coach has to have the paperwork on them and if they come to the cross country site, if it's in a park or whatever, it must be shown. But I wanted to make sure that he knew that and he said yes, everybody had that. That was one. And then the cell phone usage is a big one. Um and I know I gave it to Carmen. She's sitting back there. Do you want me to go get it? >> No, it's okay. I We don't have to go into detail. I just like a brief >> Yeah. >> one was um Can I remember >> the public notices, right? It was like public access of um like you no longer

039have to advertise in certain spots. I think that was on there. >> Yeah. You were speaking to the notification for an IEP meeting to special education parents, >> right? That's what I had brought up from the legislative meeting. >> From the legislative, but for the Middle Sex County one, it was those two and >> um it's all right. It's not uh No, it's okay. >> I was having I just gave all my notes and stuff for her for policy. So, um >> All right. Oh yeah, it was, you know, I think we need some more Monroe representation. I think >> Well, I was the only one from Monroe there. >> I was online >> and you were online and um they try to get 100% uh people going to attend schoolboard convention and Middle Sex

040County has four districts and I'm sorry to say yours will hear. One is where my son is the vice principal of Highland Park and two others that do not have anybody registered to go. So they were emphasizing please emphasize to your school districts at least send one person down so Middle Sex County could get 100% achievement of uh sending people down. So um they emphasized that that night. The lawyers were excellent. They answered all the questions especially about the cell phone usage. >> Yeah. Um that was um three or four different ways and the most I think one was the one that they liked the most was um from the beginning of the day to the end of the day they should be put away >> right bell to bell >> bell to bell. Thank

041you. they'll something to something and but of course you know I mentioned well you know you're telling us we have to have this mandated thing for cell phones >> and and then you're saying that they can put them in a plastic container and all this other stuff I mean now with I don't want to say the bad word of with the sickness that we had 5 years ago but if a kid puts her phone in next to another kid's phone you don't know so the individual path system seems to be the most reasonable but it's very expensive and the state is telling you that you have to do it, but there's no inkling, which I mentioned that night was state mandate. State does not pay. Um, and that has been forever. So, I know Senator

042Gal had mentioned that he would not let anything go past him. That was mandated that we would have to pay for, >> right? >> So, that is a a big money issue. I know I think I mentioned to Dr. Ling and you said some classrooms actually do it here in Monroe but it's not um universal to the district. Correct. >> Well, they have they have access to putting them in a pouch, right? >> You know, pouch type system, but the majority of the students specifically in the high school um the expectation is they put them away during the class time. Yeah. That's our process right now. Um, >> I was doing an observation the other day right in here and they had they had the pouch set up there and I saw a kid voluntary

043voluntarily put the phones in the pouch because they didn't trust themselves. >> Good. >> But but so to get into a crew, but it really is interesting to see the teachers manage it as a function of classroom management. And uh you know sometimes the students will have the phones in their in the pouches and sometimes they stay in the bag but really the the decision almost happens organically sometimes depending on what's going on in the classroom. I applaud the high school for their for their approach and how they've been handling it uh because they've been letting the teachers really have a strong autonomy over how they enforce it. >> What they also mentioned was certain students need to keep their phone on them that they need to track medication time. My wife delivered instruments from

044hers. So yeah, so she >> So yeah, so they that was one big thing issue they brought up where they could keep it with them. >> Um you know, most of the parents complained that if there was an issue, how was I supposed to get my child? Well, we called the school and we get a whole 20 years ago. >> Yeah, exactly. I mean, when I was, you know, nobody knew where I was. I don't tell you how many years ago it but um there was a lot of issues but that bell to bell seemed to be the most um effective one that everybody had considered. >> I pulled up the presentation. So mentioned the commission report because that had come out I think like that day or the day before. Um so there were

04520 different recommendations on there including like you said the bell to bell ban uh laws passing laws to control access and information for social media. Yes. Uh digital citizenship media awareness and curricular modifications. And then sort of like you said the healthcare monitoring concern. Um and then the other the other thing that they mentioned the third topic was students student opt out. >> Oh that's right. >> Um so it mentioned that there's a they're bracing for a wave of parents seeking optouts after a Supreme Court ruling um regarding the first amendment religious freedom clause. Right. Um, so >> that was a big one because they had stated in in the um PowerPoint that it's up to the district >> if a child opted out of a class but a parent had the child opt out

046of the class. It's up to the district to offer alternatives and at least three alternatives was what was suggested, but it would be up to the district. Three alternatives for that student to go to. So either a study hall or maybe participate in another class maybe I don't know something more minute and that was a big I mean because there was opt out a few years back for um the special was it the sex sex classes I >> oh the health yes and um some of the districts asked the parents to opt out in the beginning so instead of starting it so they recommended that the parents look at all the curriculum is what they said for the year so that they can in beginning of September have their prior opt out of what they

047wanted them to be opt out of. >> So that's that was a big thing. Yes. >> Thank you, Kate. I appreciate. >> Oh, no problem. Um, really quick, the last thing I want to talk about and we'll take two minutes is district board goals. Um so I know generally our board goal from this committee has been find uh advocacy related and I think that's a very important part of this committee. So if we want to sort of continue that same goal it's fine. I just would love to find a way to make it more of a smart goal where we're able to measure our success on it. Um the other thing I thought of but this isn't necessarily a goal for this committee is that board certification that we spoke about. I have the info

048on. >> Um I think that's a good board goal but not necessarily from our committee. Um do you guys agree like advocacy should still be our our goal as C and should put certain things we want to advocate for in that goal or just increasing >> our advocacy efforts? I guess >> I would say increase the effort because you did mention that in the CAC that would combine both the community members and this committee work maybe together on it. >> Right. So maybe sort of taking what I know Mr. Charlie said at the beginning, starting to branch out our advocacy efforts involving other groups in our town >> um would be a good way to sort of not make it the same example from last year but still have advocacy as our so I'll write

049something up and you want something for next >> yeah we're going to discuss it in open uh session at the um next week's meeting right I mean we're going to get one hopefully goal from each committee and then we'll narrow it down when we discuss it to I would say we normally do four or five goals a All right, sounds good. >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you all very much. Have a good day. >> Thank you, Mr.

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