001Right. Good evening everybody. This is our citizens advisory committee for October. We are going to get started with our agenda. We have a bit of a lighter agenda for this month. Um I did just want to share we're entering the last few months of this makeup of the committee. Um we had discussed when there's the reorganization in January. It's sort of up to the new board um to determine sort of where they want to go from that. Um, we can next month we're going to sort of talk about I guess some of the things that you guys liked from this committee or some of the things you think we needed to do more. Um, also if there's any other ideas of topics that you want to discuss November and December, just, you know, feel free
002to let myself know or I know Miss M. Morald is really good about sending out the reminders if there's something that you want to discuss at the meetings, you know, feel free to share there as well. Um, but we will get started with one of our uh two topics. So, we're going to actually go in reverse order and start talking with the advocacy letters. Um, we had decided that it's an everchanging scope that we need to work with in regards to what our asks are from our legislators. Um, and so what we had in there from last year isn't necessarily relevant. Um, or there's additional things that we might need to add on there. So, we want to sort of look at what we have now and then, you know, modify it to >> Sure.
003So um so what we have here and and you remember we we spent a lot of time working on our letter last year and I I do think that those efforts were fruitful. Uh we had some significant facetime more so than ever last year with local leaders. Um and you know we could we could theorize as to how you know whether the letters made a difference or not but the fact of the matter remains we had more meaningful interactions with local leader last year than we had prior. So um we think that we should continue our efforts uh particularly now that we have a better understanding of process and use timelines and kind of where the state is. I know there's an election coming up which could change everything but uh I still think uh
004we had discussed at at lace that you know having a more proactive approach instead of like a responsive approach because it always felt like the last couple years we're always up against the deadline. Oh no the the hearings are on Tuesday. We need to get the letter done. So, we're going to uh start now. And uh what we did at uh the central office uh over the past couple weeks is that we created two draft letters um with similar threads but slightly different tones and we can kind of talk about which direction we want to go. Uh the first draft letter um asks for consideration as uh the local leaders approach their budget uh similar to us their budget philosophy cycle. So, um, you know, we as we head into the holidays, uh, they're going
005to be trying to figure out how their money is going to be appropriated and we want our we want the absence of full day early childhood education amongst their depressing needs to be at the forefront of their uh, concerns. So, that first letter, you'll uh, see that we're asking for some proactive consideration before he or he or she whomever uh, takes the mantle. um uh you know, we want to be the first thing that they're talking about with regards to education. The second draft of this round is really just a very very similar to the letter we used last year, but with some slight updates. We did make some progress last year um over the next couple weeks. Uh Dr. Layman will be um will be updating uh the board and the public on some
006of the progress we've made towards our pathway efforts for full day EC. Um and my guess is as those plans and designs start to take shape, the form of this letter uh the second letter will start to take shape. But uh the fact of the matter is the facts that were in our letter which was finalized I believe last May are still very much the same. We remain one of uh many limited districts that do not uh feature full day kindergarten, let alone full day preschool, which we can't even have that discussion until we get the FD FDK off the ground, but um u so that's where we're at. So what I would suggest, what I suppose we would do, and I know we're on a date of time, I'm probably not going to be
007able to pick these letters apart this evening. Um, it would be a great way to kind of get things started, particularly depending on how things go at our next meeting. Perhaps we could take some feedback from on committee and and start to get uh things going because there's really no reason regardless of who the government is, >> right? >> We could still start reminding our local legislators about what the topic desour is, particularly out of this voting region, and we know what it is here in our town. Um and the more absurd we we can make this outlier appear um the more we will be on the >> right. So really quick I would say like for for me I think the two things that if we can get in this letter um which I
008know we had last year one group the graphics to show the you know disparage in fees over the years of what we've gotten versus other districts. Um so I think that's definitely helpful because some people are visual learners including legislators or every you know along those lines. Um I think the other two things that >> just being like the data table with the graph and everything >> and that letter is still up there on the site >> um on the archive from last year's advocacy. >> Right. I just I think we can have like we can have the archive letter so that people can see what we've sent in the past, but for what we're going to send now, I think it's better for us to have everything streamlined onto one letter rather than having
009multiple things. People obviously can customize it if they choose to do so. But I think for us sort of to have that focus, um I would say the other thing that sort of having seen what the legislators were asking when I was going to the the state hearings is they they as close as we can to what our ask is. So, yep. >> I know like we can't necessarily say exactly how much certain things are costing, but they can't necessarily budget or request certain additional appropriations without having that number and sort of what that number is for, right? And that list that you refer to, uh that list of specifics or lack thereof, will organically take shape as we go through these process over the next couple weeks, whether it be budgeting, whether it be
010conversations with the facility, uh office as we assess our our existing facilities. Um the only other thing I wanted to bring up, and I don't know how convenient this is, so in the second letter, the second draft last year, we had we had a slight emphasis on the enrollment boom boom population. um that narrative doesn't carry as much weight as and and here's why. Uh we look today at this time last year we had 374 more students enrolled in our district. Yeah. >> That's in this moment in time. >> And if you look on I deliberately took the the graphs out of this this for a reason because that that population line is going to be trending down, >> right? >> So it doesn't necessarily fit the narrative of the advocacy letter. Now I'm not
011necessarily asking or or suggesting we be disingenuous. I think it may just warrant us maybe wanting to shift our our claim just a bit. >> Right. I still think there's that fact that our population doubled over over all of those years and we still didn't get the funding, but I don't think we need to push the we're continuing to expand and expand. >> Yeah, that's a big point of emphasis in that letter and I don't know if it carries as much weight as >> I know somewhere says it's 1,800 a student that we received from the state. Yeah. So that number is significant in that sense because we lost $374 and times $1,800 to mathematicians could be that one, but that would be something that >> we could focus on. >> It wouldn't be hard
012to spend. >> Yeah. I just wanted to say one thing and this is I'll open up to the floor and I'll let you go. The other thing before I forget was that legislation for the additional spending question. if we wanted to ask them about approving it. I can look up what that number is. But in the event we had to do that, that was a concern. Um, and so I don't, you know, one of the things I thought was going into lanes up, we can ask for funds if we had to go so that we're not spending any money on an election. Um, you know, which might that's not a significant sum that maybe during lames up they might be able to get something additional appropriated in November or December if that was needed. But
013then also moving forward, I think that legislation getting approved so that questions can be asked in November for the following year without additional money. Um that might be something to consider whether we put it in this letter or just look at that for the the future. >> Um Mrs. Z, >> that might be a >> Okay, >> just thinking very abruptly from the head, right? >> That would take a different tone of it. >> Okay. Um, while it's true that we can't claim um that our budget is stressed due to increasing enrollment because enrollment is declining, I still think that our schools are overcrowded, right? I think that we still have an overcrowded uh high school. We still have an overcrowded middle school. So, I think the focus could just be overcrowded facilities, which is
014still an issue. Um but yeah, I would agree that you know I can't you can't say that in the world is increasing but uh it'd be interesting if we got bigger than how overcrowded. >> Yeah. No, I agree with you. I think you know clearly we we're not our students are not spread equally perfectly and throughout the district. I think though in the tone of the letter it was almost like a wo is me hey look how much growth we've had and we had no funding and no help. And I do think that our enrollment position right poses a significant challenge particularly now because just because we have less students in this moment in time doesn't mean those less that decrease in students is spread evenly rather is we have almost >> disproportionate. Yeah. But
015um I think because like even like and and a real and we learned this during the referendum, a real analytical study of things like adequacy and things like that sometimes doesn't play out in our >> when we're trying to claim, >> you know, hardships, right? >> And maybe I'm not explaining it possibly. I think that the message and the and the ask remains the same, but we were like really I should have handed out the letter from last year. I apologize, but we were like really interfaced with like our Roman spike like the big yellow on the website. >> It's on there and I can show you the website. But uh so I was just thinking as we talk about visually what is our what is our book message >> it I I think our
016I think the most statement continues to be one of seven or one of eight. You know that is that first think about it. >> The numbers don't match on the letter just in case just so you when we edit it it says seven and one place 10 in the other. Yeah, I think we're one of six. >> Right. I think it's um whether or not we're doing districts that have kindergarten now or districts that have a plan for kindergarten. I guess that's where our discrepancy might >> No, because that's sort of >> like is that >> it's supposed to be free? So by 2029, it has to be free. Um, I know that there are some districts that started doing pilots um with tuition that didn't have like before or I think Milstone is is
017like we are where they do the second half of tuition. >> Um, >> I think I asked them last time, did you know in Middle Sex County if we're the only one? >> We are. We are there. >> So, we're within our own county, we're the only school district. >> So, that's a good for Middle Sex County legislator. >> Yes. That's why our legislators should be aware of that because they don't want to go around saying, "Well, you know, I'm in this." Well, we can tell them we don't have enough funding from you, but we're the only one in your district, you know, so maybe we can come at them nicely that way, too. I don't know how we could be said, but >> we would like to have 100% compliance in 100% compliance. spot
018just for the sake of the committee because I know that you pay very close attention to this. Could you give us like an idea of like what the timeline is like >> as far as like hearings, committees, opportunities for us to provide testimony? >> Sure. >> Just so so because I I know we we we take for granted I feel like that >> everyone understands what we're going >> Yeah. I um so the budget hearings um are usually in March um and April. Registration for those usually opens up in early March after the governor gives his budget address >> um or hear that's recently hit 50 her um and so that's generally when the I guess a lot of the testimonies come from for like the state budget. Um, so usually there's the proposed budget
019from the governor and then all of these different groups, whether it's residents or spokespeople for, you know, different companies or nonprofits will go and speak and say, you know, I need this. And then the budget committee for the Senate or the Assembly can make additional appropriations. There's actually an appropriations bill that, you know, I believe each legislator is allowed to sort of add three appropriations for something in their community. Um, but then some of them also have more leeway if they're on the committees or things like that as well. Um, and then they can also make requests to I believe like the governor's to the governor to make um, you know, modifications or like I guess his or her representatives. Um, the other thing that we saw last year, which I I don't know if
020this is going to happen again, is we had the Department of Education who had hearings specifically regarding the school funding formula. Um, so I think they had three or four different hearings. I don't know if they're going to do that again because part of the reason that they held them was because it was the end of S2 which was the bill that came out in 2017 2018 to sort of correct the school funding reform act that was passed in 2008 um because there were a lot of districts getting more than they were supposed to us not being one of them. Um, and that's why sort of there were a lot of these districts surrounding us that we heard a lot of, you know, concerns from recently that didn't have that same problem for many years.
021Um, so they had that um those hearings last year, you know, and from what I've sort of seen and I think they, you know, we sort of gotten this feeling they're not going to make any major overhauls to the formula, at least not with the current, you know, way things are. um their changes were more about transparency. So districts finding out what their money is going to be for their budget more than three weeks before it's due or things like that as opposed to actual changes in the numbers. But you know the other side of it besides the budget is that there's a legislative and like there's assembly and senate education committees and they're constantly proposing different bills. some, you know, there's thousands of bills that have been proposed that never really see the light
022of day or, you know, get passed. But there are times when these bills move forward and lame up being like that period after the election before the the new representatives come in is that time when there's a lot of things passed. This was actually just brought up at our legislative meeting. Um, so it's a good time for us to sort of push for legislation that might be beneficial for our district or education in New Jersey in general. Um, I don't know when those Assembly and Senate Education Committee meetings are, but to your point, Mr. Raldo, that might be a good thing for us to look at to whether it's going in to testify at those committees if they allow guests or writing letters to the committee chairs um for certain bills um and our own
023legislators to maybe sponsor bills that might help benefit districts. I think last year we asked this committee to write letters and we showed them the how to get the letter on the website and send it if you couldn't make it. I went and spoke and I think you went and spoke. Yeah. >> Um it was I went towards the end of it and it it looked like actually there was three or four people up on the day and by the time I got up there was only two left. >> So I I said mine somebody must be have to be someplace busy because they couldn't even wait for me to get up there and say anything. And I even offered my services. I told them I'm retired. I'd come and help you. You know, all
024the years that I have, I would come and tell you what is needed because I could tell you what's needed here. And and and then all the districts in Middle Sex County that last year got so many bad cuts. Well, we were very lucky. We didn't have any of those enormous cuts like East Brunswick and South Brunswick did, and we came pretty even. So, we were very, very lucky. But we want more. And and I have to tell you, Senator Greenstein had been up with us and giving us some money here and there. She'll allocate allocate here, allocate there. We've got to go to Senator D'Angelo or if he's a committee. What's he >> and and um >> McCoy, we have to go to other people um and other how we can find out if
025they're on that committee. >> Right. So there it's online. I think we can check to see if they're on those committees. Um, but I also think what would be helpful is to find out what other districts are in similar situations because one of the things we're always told is you have to have strength and numbers to pass legislation, right? So, if it's just our representatives, they can sponsor it, but they need co-sponsors and they need people who are going to support it. Um, and you know, we can certainly look to see what other districts have suffered for years for funding. You know, I think what would also be very helpful because I understand this to an extent, but I'm sure that there is someone who understands it far better than I, is exactly how the
026formula penalizes our school district because of our higher senior citizen percentage. because I know it's something to do with the local fair share and determining our wealth because not all of our wealth is necessarily given into where it looks like it would in the calculation. But I I claim to be many things but like a strong math person is is not one of them. Um, and I don't know if there's a legislator or someone who's really good with the, you know, with that type of finance that might be able to really determine like how much have we not gotten because that's really where the equalization aid has come from like the lack of because they're saying we have this much local wealth but we really don't. But we can't really >> community tried to do
027that a couple years ago. But then if I recall when they visit with when our local legislators visit with us, they basically they basically told us we make that one, >> right? >> They're not going to change. What are we rated in terms of wealth like there's >> rings have a lot to do with it too answer Dr. or even you did they create a funding formula for preschool a separate one I thought that that was something that they did to dole out the money somehow >> they have additional aid that's separate from us they even have annual aid um but I don't know how they calculate how much each district is getting >> because I would say we should advocate to add a kind the kindergarten part to that funding formula preschool because that
028might help us in a different way to get more >> you're getting a lot of grant award. >> Yeah. >> For getting the prek programs up off the ground and to a certain extent maintaining those programs. >> Um but I'm not aware of a specific targeted formula. >> And sadly many of those grants, >> you know, not having full day kindergarten is the first disqualifier that we're disqualified because we don't have full day kindergarten for those grants. >> But if they could lump those together for those of us remaining, that might be helpful. The other thing is um just to help us help the community you know you had mentioned that the website was a nice way to get people get so right now the um since our last meeting uh what I did what
029we did was we took the old advocacy website and we made it a subtab on the MTSD advocacy website. So, and I don't have it up there, but there's even I we were able to dig up some information from 2017 18 from when uh previous administrations had inviting for fair funding. So, we have we're starting to create a historical record of our advocacy efforts. Right now, if you go on our advocacy website on the district site, it's it's just blank. It has our our banner and our contact information, but there's nothing on there. And then what I would like to do, you know, mainly another thing that the committee can do after maybe picking apart those letters would be to help us construct or give us some feedback on how we can construct a very
030user-friendly website. You know, we know we can we can do the forms that push out form letters to legislators. we know we can download the form, you know, so that we know we can do. But if there's anything else you think we can do, not just to help advocate, but also help communicate fight to the population, that would be very helpful because the easiest thing to do is send out and say, "Go to link everything you need there," rather than us having to contextualize everything with why we're sending out the link and everything like that. We're going to try to get better at being more concise with our messaging as well. I think the other thing maybe we can add to the letter >> with full day kindergarten being required is talking about the unfunded
031mandate because that's a a term that makes the legislator a little bit nervous right so they never want to have you know putting out there an unfunded mandate but really that's sort of what they're asking for right now and so you know I think if we can sort of give them an approximate number because I know we can't give like exacts right and just you know say like in order for us to do what the legislation you passed are because we all support like kindergarten it's not a matter of people who don't want it you know in order for this to not be an unfunded mandate this is what we we need to you know to happen um and because I think the more we can ask for with you know that we're going to
032use obviously you know that money is going to go somewhere else if it doesn't come to us so we might as well try advocate for that to come to us because it helps the school district, it helps our taxpayers. Um, so I think that's probably another angle to take. Uh, can I on draft a I think the third paragraph down which I've highlighted in purple that has to go in here somewhere. State investments in districts like our not only advance educational equity. They need to know that everybody's got to be together in this state in order to give every child the right education. So that's something I think has to say. That's up to me. I'm just saying right now. I didn't mean to interrupt. I know somebody had some Spanish. I >> I was
033want to say more to those two points. I think it's very effective if it's it's not just throwing the the problems in the lines, but also the solutions, right? And with the understanding that we don't want to limit ourselves with a specific allocation of funding. You know, you don't want to ask for 50 when it's very possible for them to give you 80, for example, right? But I think some sort of financial analysis or budgetary analysis is necessary as to where the exact pitfalls lie and what is going to remedy those pitfalls. Um and and when we're talking about the formula, if there are potential revisions to the formula, I think it it you know, it puts some of the leg work on us um as a collective obviously, but it we need it it
034we want them to amend the formula or amend the formula for specific districts under specific characterizations or specific um demographics or populations or or whatnot. whatever that category might be, we need to address that category and then give them a revised formula because let's be honest, no one wants to do the work. >> Yes. >> And and I think if if we're going to take it this far, you have to take the initiative to do that preliminary work and make specific proposals instead of just saying there's an issue. Please let's think about solving it, right? We're not providing a solution. >> That was similar to like you mentioned before the feedback that we had received from our legislators. give us give us specifics, >> right? >> Which is not always easy to do within the
035timeline, but you know that that we did try to do that a couple versions ago, >> right? >> And then we were able to resolve some of those with Rod Brand that >> and it was almost like a shopping list, but you know, my guess is that as we get into appropriation season, we'll probably be doing something similar similar to that with and and by then I imagine we'll be able to zero in on some specific needs. Um but I think but I agree with you. I wish we could say, "Hey, just make this point funny." And I we there's been community members that have tried >> and and uh I I don't remember where that all went, >> right? >> But you know, I just I just remember having a feeling of of like
036they could say you could try, but >> yes, >> it is one of that is the feeling that we gave here. >> But we have had some success, measured success with the appropriations. >> Right. Right. >> So, you know, again, that that that's a plan C, I guess. But it's hard because it's going to be a lame duck session, but if this wasn't, what I probably would be recommending is like let's get on their radar now. >> Yeah. >> You know, because they're probably thinking about budget philosophy, how much are we going to get towards education and for what? What's the sex and political topic of the time? >> And we might have had an opportunity there, >> right, >> to get on board with that. But I just think timing unfortunately don't think it's
037going to be relevant. >> And I think that one thing we were told, and I know, you know, I've spoken with Dr. mentioned about this before is um we can't necessarily use money like we have to know what the money is for and we we can't use it after a certain period of time. Um but I think if we you know sort of talk to our legislators and say like this is our situation, this is approximately what we think we will need in order to fund full kindergarten. However, if you can help us by making it, you know, for purposes of early childhood education or something, which is like a more vague overhead that we could sort of ne potentially use for other needs besides those exact specific things that are listed that might help
038us so that we aren't necessarily limiting what we can do with those funds. Um, but I do think they also like um you know sensor said like we need to they need to see sort of like what it's for. Um and say like our district's been asking for this for how many years. It's going to be mandatory. We want to do this the right way. Here's how you can help us. So >> there like any mention of like our ridiculous high property taxes. Do you think that will like help? I don't think it will help only because most other towns have that same issue. So, I mean, it could help in terms of like statewide reform, but like for our legislators to advocate for our town over like another town, I'm not sure how much
039it would help. Um, I mean, I that's sort of talking to just like a total revamping of how education is funded in the state, which is a much larger conversation because you're not wrong. I just don't really know if that's our Vermont grow if that makes sense. >> It's not specific. >> 80% we pay towards schools because I know like there aren't really that many townships that are in the high 80% like you know >> 80% of our >> it's very high. So, you know, even though we're seen as a higher income and average child, a good chunk of the money goes right into the taxes, I just wonder like that will be helpful in mentioning or that will hurt us. >> No. And I think that's where where that equalization aid calculation sort of
040comes into play because the reason that it's so high is because we're not getting equalization aid. The reason we're not getting decoization aid is because of that that flaw that I know like Senator Gunstein's office is aware of and they from what I was told like a decade plus ago they tried to create something to help fix it but there wasn't enough support statewide. So, um, meaning there's not too many towns with senior communities the same level that we have here in this >> like if there was a lot of towns like that, maybe they would consider a modification, but it's not. >> So, like you guys mentioned basically it's kind of really hard to see the legislative laws and you know formulas being changed at this point but although we will still continue to
041try, right? But is there interest on the smooth end to look for other routes of generating funds like >> you know like example just throw out there like um the farmers market does very well in the library right and that's a very small section and we have a large parking section that's underutilizing the majority what if we offer to >> use that space and give funding and I know there's interest on the vendors you know so it's >> so we we have used revenue venue sourcing uh pretty successfully. Uh but where that revenue has been sourced traditionally has been into programs and and and and it's a very it's been a very useful growth mechanism for us particularly when we try out new technologies and things like that. mainly because the revenues that we generate
042uh through like initiatives like summer programs um even like sponsorships that we sell while we can generate some considerable revenue they generally don't move the needle on capital projects >> but what they do help is things like curricular growth and we talked about that at curriculum meeting and allowing us to send staff out to get trained now that will trickle into operating budget because uh every time we ask for something new usually We don't ask for a budgetary increase and then if the program is sustainable we try to find ways to embed it through nutrition and things like that. >> Initially when we started the advertising initiative years ago um the thought would be to create sustainable lucrative revenue streams but when you think about our inventory for for signage at there's 80 panels at
043the high school field right there. So that's $80,000 if we sell out for a year. it it it's not going to put full day kindergarten into the district, but what it can do is allow us to purchase new refless, which otherwise would have taken up a huge line in bite in the budget item. It can allow us to send staff out for training for a new medical initiative. Um and where what'll be interesting though to your point was what the state had originally suggested was deficient districts would be a private public partnership >> for facilitating early childhood education where I think depending on things go the next couple years could be a viable option >> to help offset some of those costs. I but you know general fundraising and things like that um they it
044is helpful. I just don't know if it solves our capital, >> right? The year-over-year expenses as opposed to like >> I think that kind of brings back to what I said earlier at curriculum committee regarding the summer advancement program. We did very well this year and it helped us bring some new things to the district that I'd be very nervous to count on that >> indefinitely if there's a recession here or what if there's a COVID year and we can't do anything that money that >> I know I feel I would be concerned about >> pitching our cart to a a revenue model but I don't know if I can guarantee >> Robin I'm wondering um back to the letters I just thought of this um if we're going to um draft a new letter
045for this year for the budget appropriations committee and and we want to put more in it about what we really need for the kindergarten and the early early preschool. What would be on our wish list? Like what do we need to make this happen? So I'll give you I'll give you the I guess the most significant move the needle issues issues hurdles like it's more than like a hurdle staffing. So that's a year-over-year expense. So even if we get a one-time appropriation and we were to utilize that to pay for staffing for this year for next year, right? We still need to the following year find and fill that gap, right? So year-over-year adjustment to cover staffing, right? Um the other piece would be in a longer term look uh what facilities additions do we
046need to be able to optimize our roll out of the the buildings that K would impact? because we can uh roll it out next year, but we still have a classroom in the media center, a classroom in the back of the stage that prevents us from utilizing the stage as a stage environment. So, what do we need to do capital-wise to reset those are the those are the barriers. A curricular piece, >> we need to >> 70% of our kids are here. So 30% 30% addition to uh to a curricular piecing again is not gonna move that needle in terms of it's going to happen or it's not going to happen. That is something we can embed in in a budget. Um because every year we fluctuate with what curriculum we pick up. We're on
047a cycle. Some years are a little heavier than others. We adjust for that. Um but once we get the facilities in place and the staffing in place, the facilities are the onetime large expense to make the the building fit, right? And the staffing is the year-over-year appropriation that we need to either absorb, partially absorb, andor add on to. Those are the two hurdles. Um the curricular piece doesn't worry me. It doesn't keep me up at night. The staffing piece does keep me up a little bit. And then in the long term 100% the the building adjustment is is a nugget that we've tried to adjust for seven or eight years going that I can that I've been a part of that we haven't been able to even come over on that earth. So um you
048know different approaches and things like that that you know that's that that's kind of like the those are the big picture hurdles for us. Again, the curriculum stuff doesn't keep me up. The curricular resources, uh, pens, pencils, doesn't that's not that's not the issue for us. The issue is six staff members, eight staff members, whatever that looks like. 10 staff members and then and that's year-over-year. And then the uh facility, the adjustment, >> right? So, should have known we weren't going to have a short meeting. >> We did we can kick mine to the next meeting. That's what we plan. >> Okay. Y >> that's fine then. Yeah. Um what I would love I'm going to go back to my teacher days and give you guys all an assignment is um if you can look
049this over and um you know I know we did this last year. I guess it was technically this year. Um just send any rate revisions you have um you know you can send them to me send Mr. Moralda um the response from his email. Um, I don't want this to take too long because honestly I would love for us to be able to send this to our current legislators as they're going into lame duck if there's anything they can do. Um, >> be great to get the site updated by Thanksgiving too, right? You know, >> so we'll finalize it at the next meeting and have it out before Thanksgiving like you said and then they have December to make those changes. >> And any suggestions for the website um would be great. And then as
050we, you know, any of the work we do, we'll pop like as you guys testify and stuff like that, we'll pop those videos up there. >> Great. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Possible to get word versions of these? >> Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'll do? I'll I'll I'll put it up there as uh as word docs for you guys and then I'll probably end up putting all your edits into a shared doc. >> All right. Thank you. >> All right. All right. We're gonna turn up. Thank you everybody for joining us today. Thank you for coming here.